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You asked your father
if you could move back in.
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- Yes.
- She was ultimately evicted.
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I told her I would do it.
I don't think she believed me.
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Her behavior changed.
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She can be very nice,
but there's a whole 'nother side
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that is actually very scary.
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We were afraid of her.
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This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}[Announcer]19-year-old Isabel Irwin
is suing her father, Neil Irwin,
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for personal belongings.
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Court come to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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Case number 27,
Irwin versus Irwin.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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Miss Irwin, this is your dad?
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- Yes, he is.
- And you're 19?
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Yes, I am.
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According to what I read
in your complaint,
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your parents divorced
when you were 10.
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Yes.
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And your father was
your primary custodian.
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- You lived with him.
- Yes, I did.
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Did you graduate from high school?
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Uh, yes, I did.
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When you were 10, 11, 12,
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13, 14, 15, and 16,
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did you live with your father?
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Uh, at the age of 15,
I moved out because...
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Okay. So, at age 15,
you moved out.
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Yes.
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Because here you said,
"When I was 18,
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my father kicked me out of
the house for no good reason."
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- Yes.
- Yes, what?
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Well, you've just told me that you
left the house when you were 15.
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Yes, and I lived
with my mother for two years.
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{\an8}So, from age 15 to 17,
you lived with your mother.
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{\an8}Yes.
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Is that because you were having
difficulty with your father?
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Uh, yes.
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Okay. And then you went
to live with your mother.
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- Uh, yes.
- But that didn't last.
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- No.
- So now, at 17,
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- you go back to your father.
- Yes.
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And you stayed with him
until you were 18.
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Yes, correct.
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So, so far, I have the fact that
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your family is a little dysfunctional,
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but that you had certain problems.
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{\an8}Um... I moved out
when I was 18, and...
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{\an8}Just a second.
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Would that be a fair statement,
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that you had some problems?
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No, it would not be.
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Okay. What high school
did you graduate from?
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It's a school partnered
with the National Guard
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for kids that are off track
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to get 'em back on track.
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Did you have to pay for that school?
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Uh, no, they are paid by the government.
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- Would you look them up for me?
- Yeah.
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It's a residential program
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for youths aged 16 to 18
who've dropped out of school
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or who are seriously behind in credits
and need to catch up quickly.
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Okay, so you were
dropped out of school?
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- Uh, no.
- Or seriously behind?
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Yes.
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Dropped out, or behind in credits.
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Okay. And how old were you
when you graduated from...?
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I was 17 years old.
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And so, at that point,
you moved in with your father.
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Uh, yes.
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And why did you leave
when you were 18?
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- He had evicted me.
- Okay.
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And I'd like you to tell me
your version of his evicting you
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when you were 18
because this case involves
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you're suing your father for things--
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items that he disposed of
that were yours,
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and you want this court
to award you
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$7,400 for the things that
he disposed of that were yours.
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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{\an8}So, tell me why you believe
he evicted you when you were 18.
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I believe he evicted me when I was 18
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because I was buying my first car,
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and he got jealous of the car I had.
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And he stated that when I moved
back in for the second time.
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Um, he evicted me
the second time...
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No, no, no.
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We're on the first time
that your father evicted you,
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not the second time.
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The first time your father
evicted you--
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I can ask him, or you
want me to stay with you?
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- You can ask him.
- Fine.
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Tell me why you evicted her
the first time, which you did.
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The main reasons would be
that she agreed to pay rent,
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which she never did.
She needed to...
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- She working?
- Uh, off and on.
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{\an8}I'd say over the past two years,
she's probably had,
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{\an8}from my guesstimate,
15 to 20 jobs,
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all ranging from an hour, a day,
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I think the longest being
about three months.
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Can't maintain a job.
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Would prefer to smoke pot
all day in her room
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and hang out with her
boyfriend, basically.
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{\an8}Which, at the time,
for the first eviction,
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{\an8}she did not know Cory.
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- Okay.
- But she still does the same thing.
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Yeah, well, that's unfortunate.
That's what you indicate here.
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So, that was the reason that
you evicted her the first time.
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And that was maybe in June?
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I would have filed that
June 9th of 2021.
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June. Okay. But she came back
shortly thereafter, in October.
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The sheriffs removed her
August 13, 2021.
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Is that because you asked her
to leave and she wouldn't?
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It's a three-step process,
and I had a 24-hour notice
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posted to the door after 34 days.
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Well, you-- I mean,
she's your daughter.
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- Yeah.
- So, there must have been
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some discussion, Mr. Irwin,
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with her, you saying to her,
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"Listen, this is not working out."
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There wasn't a discussion,
Your Honor.
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I served her the first notice.
We talked about it.
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Oh, you talked about it?
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Prior to me filing.
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I told her I would do it,
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and I don't think she believed me.
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She knew you wanted her to leave
as a result of that discussion.
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- Yes.
- And she didn't.
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She did not.
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She had lived with you, off and on,
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with the exception of two years
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that she lived with her mother,
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and part of it
in a residential program.
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- It's a residential program, correct?
- Yes.
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When she lived with you,
she was 10 years old.
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Can you tell me, Mr. Irwin,
from the time she was 10
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until the time she was 18
and she was ultimately evicted,
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what items in the house
she purchased--
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bed, TVs, anything big.
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She never purchased anything.
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When she came back from her mother,
what did she come back with?
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I believe just a few clothes and a bag.
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She had to kind of run back.
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And, to the best of your knowledge,
had your daughter maintained
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any sort of gainful employment
the last three years?
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- No.
- So, other than
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the clothes she came back
with when she was 17,
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there were no big-ticket items?
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Uh, there were a few by the time
I had to evict her the second time,
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but I would have furnished those,
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being, you know, bed set, furniture.
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The bed.
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- Tempur-
- Pedic bed. I think that's part of
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what she's really wanting
out of this $7,400.
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Okay, so, you purchased a bed...
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- Yes.
- Because you didn't
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have one in the room
where she was?
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I was just trying
to take care-- Yeah.
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I, uh, was using the room
for my own purposes.
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I lived alone
until she moved back in.
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And, um, usually welcoming
of my daughter coming home,
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so I furnished a room.
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Okay, so that's why you
left the first time.
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The first time you left
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because he got annoyed
that you were hanging around
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- doing nothing and smoking pot.
- I did pay rent too.
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Right. Right.
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- No, she didn't.
- And you're doing...
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weren't doing it much.
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No, I was not smoking often.
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Were not
doing much, is what I said.
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Yes, I had a job. I worked
at the beginning of the year.
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For how many days?
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I worked there
for about three months,
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and then I worked as
a kennel technician for about two months.
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What happened to both those jobs?
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{\an8}My dad, he would-- he has alcoholism.
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{\an8}He would never let me
sleep in the room
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as I was paying rent,
and he would lock me out.
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- That's not true.
- He would lock me out...
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Just... I... okay.
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{\an8}He would lock me out, and he
would flip the garage switch
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{\an8}so I wasn't able to get
access to the house.
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{\an8}I wasn't able to get clean,
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so I couldn't obtain the job,
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and my mental health
wasn't there for that job,
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so that's why I took
the kennel technician job...
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Okay.
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...and that's when he evicted me.
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Where are you living now?
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- Uh, with my boyfriend.
- That's him?
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- Yes.
- And where are you working now?
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- I am unemployed.
- So, that's easy.
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So, now you're not working.
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Now nobody's locked you out.
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Nobody's made it impossible
for you to work.
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And what kind of work
does your boyfriend do?
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He is construction.
I do DoorDash.
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Okay. Your boyfriend
is construction.
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- Yes.
- Hold old is he?
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He is 20 years old.
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- You're Cory.
- Yes, Your Honor.
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- Who do you live with?
- Uh, my mom and her new husband.
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How did I know that?
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How did I just know that?
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It's so perfect to be old
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that, I mean,
I asked the questions.
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I could have asked the questions
and answered the questions.
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So, you and your girlfriend
live with your mother.
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Yes, Your Honor.
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- Did you graduate from high school?
- Yes, Your Honor.
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And what's the name of
the company that you work for?
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Uh, Landscape.
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Do you work for them full time?
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- Yes, I do.
- For how long?
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I've been working for them
about two months now.
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- Two months!
- Yes.
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Prior to that, what did you do?
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Um, I worked for Chewy.
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- Chewy, the dog products?
- Yes, Your Honor.
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What happened to that job?
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Um, I just wasn't liking
the job anymore,
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{\an8}and I thought I could do
a lot harder work,
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{\an8}and that's what I strive to do,
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{\an8}is just continue trying to be
the best person I can.
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And what does your girlfriend
do all day when you're
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out in your landscaping job
for the last two months?
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Um, she stays busy going to the gym
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and making sure that everything is
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in tip-top shape
and just bringing me lunch
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when I'm on my break for... for...
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And you're living
in your mom's house--
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be a fair statement--
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you don't have to be a math wizard,
which I am not,
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because you don't have enough money
to move out into your own place.
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Yes, Your Honor.
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- Does your mom work?
- Uh, yes, she does.
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Who else lives in the house?
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Uh, her newly husband.
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And you have a room
in your mom's house?
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Yes, Your Honor.
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- Is it furnished?
- Yes, Your Honor.
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Who bought the furniture?
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I bought the bed set and...
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Tell me when you bought the bed set.
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I bought it about two years ago
247
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because we moved there recently.
248
00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:26,867
So, what you're telling me
is you purchased a new mattress.
249
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- Yes.
- With your earnings.
250
00:09:28,633 --> 00:09:29,834
Yes, Your Honor.
251
00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:31,200
And how much was it?
252
00:09:31,266 --> 00:09:33,967
It was about one thousand,
five hundred.
253
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And if you left the house,
254
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you would want to take your mattress
255
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- because you bought it.
- Yes, Your Honor.
256
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You wouldn't take any of
the other furniture
257
00:09:41,667 --> 00:09:43,066
in the house because
you didn't buy it.
258
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Yes, correct.
259
00:09:44,433 --> 00:09:47,333
Whether it's your dresser
or a TV in your room,
260
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your parents bought that.
261
00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,000
- Yeah.
- The mattress, you bought.
262
00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:51,533
Yes, Your Honor.
263
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Now you can sit.
264
00:09:55,734 --> 00:09:58,133
Show me that you gave him $3,000.
265
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I can't figure
that you had saved $3,000.
266
00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,233
I gave him that to purchase a mattress
267
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because that was the time
I was purchasing my car.
268
00:10:05,066 --> 00:10:07,200
How could you purchase a car?
You don't work!
269
00:10:18,166 --> 00:10:20,333
19-year-old Isabel Irwin
270
00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,867
{\an8}claims her father, Neil Irwin,
owes for personal belongings.
271
00:10:24,934 --> 00:10:27,300
Now I'm gonna sort of
pull this together.
272
00:10:27,367 --> 00:10:29,433
Eventually, you move
back into the house
273
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after an initial eviction,
and you weren't doing well,
274
00:10:32,166 --> 00:10:33,400
- I assume.
- Yes.
275
00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:35,433
And then you came back
a couple of months later
276
00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,700
and asked your father
if you could move back in.
277
00:10:37,767 --> 00:10:39,233
- Yes.
- And he said okay.
278
00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:41,467
- Yes.
- And that didn't work out.
279
00:10:41,533 --> 00:10:45,066
He was unhappy
with the arrangement.
280
00:10:45,133 --> 00:10:46,934
I was paying rent before.
He just...
281
00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,300
- No.
- He was kicking me out,
282
00:10:48,367 --> 00:10:50,266
so I decided not to pay rent.
283
00:10:50,333 --> 00:10:52,433
Whatever the reason,
he wasn't happy with it.
284
00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:53,934
You were gone for a couple of months.
285
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,033
- He evicted me, yes.
- Yes.
286
00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:58,433
Well, he evicted you
for a reason, Miss Irwin.
287
00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:00,333
You have to stop being a baby.
288
00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,333
He evicted you for a reason.
He took you back
289
00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,600
'cause you went there, you said,
"I have no place to go."
290
00:11:04,667 --> 00:11:08,367
I assume, without going into specifics
'cause you look a little frightened,
291
00:11:08,433 --> 00:11:10,367
and I don't have to get that crazed
with you
292
00:11:10,433 --> 00:11:12,633
because it sounds like
a very sad situation,
293
00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:15,500
he said, "It's not working out again.
I want you to leave."
294
00:11:15,567 --> 00:11:18,233
And when you left,
you did not, according to you,
295
00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:20,467
take your stuff, and your father,
296
00:11:20,533 --> 00:11:24,033
at some point after he received
a text message from you,
297
00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,033
which I assume you have, sir.
298
00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:27,233
I do.
299
00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:29,000
Which said, "Have a nice life."
300
00:11:29,066 --> 00:11:31,166
After he received that,
waited a while and disposed...
301
00:11:31,233 --> 00:11:32,633
{\an8}That was a statement I made
302
00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:34,967
{\an8}because I asked him
to help me fill up my tires
303
00:11:35,033 --> 00:11:36,600
{\an8}'cause they needed air,
and I saw him pull
304
00:11:36,667 --> 00:11:39,467
{\an8}into the Safeway parking lot
and leave with his groceries,
305
00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:40,734
{\an8}and he never helped me.
306
00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,667
Okay,
so you said, "Have a nice life."
307
00:11:42,734 --> 00:11:46,233
And then you want a whole bunch
of things from the house.
308
00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:50,333
I want you to tell me,
with your limited work history,
309
00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,567
which you have, hardly
enough to sustain yourself,
310
00:11:53,633 --> 00:11:55,600
because in October
you came back to him and said,
311
00:11:55,667 --> 00:11:57,133
"I need a place to live."
312
00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,033
So, I want you to tell me
what you purchased.
313
00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:03,066
- I purchased a Tempur-
- Pedic bed.
314
00:12:03,133 --> 00:12:05,000
And who did you purchase it from?
315
00:12:05,066 --> 00:12:07,266
- My father.
- You purchased it from your father.
316
00:12:07,333 --> 00:12:09,333
Yes. He made the original purchase
317
00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,500
and said I could just give him
the money, which I did.
318
00:12:11,567 --> 00:12:14,233
Okay. And how much did you
give him for the mattress?
319
00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:16,367
- Three thousand dollars.
- That's incorrect.
320
00:12:16,433 --> 00:12:19,300
Show me that you gave him
$3,000.
321
00:12:19,367 --> 00:12:21,600
I can't figure that you
had saved $3,000.
322
00:12:21,667 --> 00:12:23,934
I gave him that to purchase the mattress
323
00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,734
because that was the time
I was purchasing my car.
324
00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,967
How could you purchase a car?
325
00:12:28,033 --> 00:12:29,233
You don't work!
326
00:12:37,834 --> 00:12:40,400
- The first one was a cash transaction...
- This doesn't tell me anything.
327
00:12:40,467 --> 00:12:43,333
- ...that he made me withdraw.
- This doesn't tell me anything.
328
00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,867
You wanna tell me--?
That tells me nothing.
329
00:12:44,934 --> 00:12:46,233
You want to give that to her?
330
00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:48,600
I would have to find credible,
Miss Irwin,
331
00:12:48,667 --> 00:12:52,967
that you had managed
to save from your job
332
00:12:53,033 --> 00:12:55,033
{\an8}that you had for three months
333
00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:59,233
{\an8}while you claim you paid
for rent $3,000.
334
00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:02,433
It was the leftover money
from me purchasing my car.
335
00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:04,934
Oh! That--
I don't believe that for one second.
336
00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,333
Okay, you want to tell me
about the mattress, sir?
337
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,066
Simply put, I got one for myself
when she wasn't living with me.
338
00:13:11,133 --> 00:13:15,066
And the mattress I furnished
her with is a floor model.
339
00:13:15,133 --> 00:13:16,400
He gave me a good deal on it.
340
00:13:16,467 --> 00:13:20,200
I think it retails about 3,500,
I got it for 2,300.
341
00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:22,467
My daughter and I
did have an agreement
342
00:13:22,533 --> 00:13:26,033
that she could purchase
the mattress for $1,800.
343
00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,500
However, as you may have
figured out, that did not occur.
344
00:13:28,567 --> 00:13:31,033
And this was after
she moved back in October,
345
00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:32,266
or when she was...?
346
00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:33,433
Yep. Yes, it was.
347
00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,467
After she moved back in October.
348
00:13:35,533 --> 00:13:37,000
- Yes, Your Honor.
- Okay.
349
00:13:37,066 --> 00:13:38,867
The mattress is staying
where it is. Okay.
350
00:13:38,934 --> 00:13:41,433
Now let's go to dresser,
nightstand, and TV.
351
00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:44,000
So, you acknowledge that none
of those things you purchased--
352
00:13:44,066 --> 00:13:45,834
bed, dresser, nightstand, and TV.
353
00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:48,300
- No, I did not purchase them.
- Okay. That's your father's.
354
00:13:48,367 --> 00:13:51,567
"He threw out my clothes,
shoes, and jewelry."
355
00:13:51,633 --> 00:13:54,166
- Now, you were evicted.
- Yes.
356
00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:57,300
Was it an actual eviction?
Did marshals come to the house?
357
00:13:57,367 --> 00:14:00,967
Um, no. I got served the
eviction notice on June 30th.
358
00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:02,400
He illegally locked me out...
359
00:14:02,467 --> 00:14:05,367
- No, no, no, no. June 30th?
- Yes.
360
00:14:05,433 --> 00:14:08,533
So, on June 30th,
you were given an eviction notice
361
00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,900
that said that you had
to be out on what date?
362
00:14:10,967 --> 00:14:12,667
In 30 days.
363
00:14:12,734 --> 00:14:14,867
So far, is that correct, Mr. Irwin?
364
00:14:14,934 --> 00:14:17,867
That's fairly correct.
I do have the 30-day
365
00:14:17,934 --> 00:14:20,834
no-cause notice to quit
that she was served.
366
00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:23,133
Okay, and on what date
did you leave?
367
00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,567
{\an8}On July 1st, 'cause he
had thrown a can at my boyfriend...
368
00:14:25,633 --> 00:14:27,367
{\an8}Just a second.
369
00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,133
You left on July 1st?
370
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,133
- Yes.
- Tell me how you left.
371
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,500
I packed a small bag and I had left.
372
00:14:34,567 --> 00:14:37,166
You packed a small bag
that contained what?
373
00:14:37,233 --> 00:14:39,800
A few of my clothes and whatever
I could grab for a few nights.
374
00:14:39,867 --> 00:14:40,867
And where did you go?
375
00:14:40,934 --> 00:14:42,200
To my boyfriend's house.
376
00:14:42,266 --> 00:14:44,133
- So you went to Cory's house?
- Yes.
377
00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,066
- Do you have a laptop?
- I do not.
378
00:14:46,133 --> 00:14:47,834
- Do you have a phone?
- Yes, I do.
379
00:14:47,900 --> 00:14:49,533
- Did you take the phone?
- Yes, I did.
380
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,166
You took some clothes with you
when you knew that you had
381
00:14:52,233 --> 00:14:54,567
- an eviction notice, correct?
- Yes.
382
00:14:54,633 --> 00:14:58,200
Tell me what jewelry you
allege your father threw out.
383
00:14:58,266 --> 00:15:00,567
{\an8}He threw out my necklace
my boyfriend had bought me.
384
00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:02,300
- {\an8}-
- He threw out...
- Okay.
385
00:15:02,367 --> 00:15:03,467
Which boyfriend?
386
00:15:03,533 --> 00:15:05,333
Uh, this boyfriend, Cory.
387
00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,300
Tell me about the necklace.
388
00:15:07,367 --> 00:15:09,567
Uh, he had purchased it
for my birthday.
389
00:15:09,633 --> 00:15:12,166
Okay. Stand up, Cory.
390
00:15:12,233 --> 00:15:14,300
Tell me about the necklace
you purchased.
391
00:15:14,367 --> 00:15:16,834
Uh, I had purchased it
from Kay Jewelers.
392
00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:19,633
I had purchased it
for about $250.
393
00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:21,467
- Okay. When?
- On her birthday.
394
00:15:21,533 --> 00:15:23,800
- Just a little before that.
- When's her birthday?
395
00:15:23,867 --> 00:15:25,633
Uh, February 20th.
396
00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:27,967
- {\an8}-
- Did she wear the necklace?
- Yes.
397
00:15:28,033 --> 00:15:30,900
- {\an8}-
- Every day?
- Uh, no, just on occasion.
398
00:15:30,967 --> 00:15:33,333
Whenever we'd go out
and do stuff and all that.
399
00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,233
When she came to your house
with her bag,
400
00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:39,433
did you ever see the necklace again?
401
00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:41,300
No, I did not, Your Honor.
402
00:15:41,367 --> 00:15:42,834
Do you know
where this necklace is?
403
00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:43,934
I do not.
404
00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,567
Did you throw away a necklace?
405
00:15:45,633 --> 00:15:48,900
I guess anything's possible,
because when she left
406
00:15:48,967 --> 00:15:51,667
and sent me the "have a nice
rest of your life" text,
407
00:15:51,734 --> 00:15:54,867
it looked like a hoarder's room, so I
guess anything could have been in there.
408
00:15:54,934 --> 00:15:56,900
- Who cleaned it up?
- I did.
409
00:15:56,967 --> 00:15:59,133
- Didn't see a necklace?
- Didn't see a necklace.
410
00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,500
'Kay. Were you looking
for anything of value?
411
00:16:02,567 --> 00:16:04,066
{\an8}I wasn't looking for anything.
412
00:16:04,133 --> 00:16:06,233
{\an8}To me, it looked like old clothes
413
00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:08,533
{\an8}that probably hadn't been
worn in years.
414
00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,266
I just wanted to clear out the room.
415
00:16:10,333 --> 00:16:13,433
Okay. Fine, have a seat.
Other than that necklace,
416
00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:15,266
what other jewelry did you have?
417
00:16:15,333 --> 00:16:18,100
I had some rings I purchased
from Ojai, California,
418
00:16:18,166 --> 00:16:20,400
on a trip I previously took
from my dad.
419
00:16:20,467 --> 00:16:21,867
Okay. What else?
420
00:16:21,934 --> 00:16:24,100
You took a bag of clothes.
What specific--
421
00:16:24,166 --> 00:16:27,066
'cause you had jewelry, shoes.
422
00:16:27,133 --> 00:16:30,266
I assume you took some shoes with you
because you were gonna be there...
423
00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:31,767
- No, I did not.
- Well, you were wearing a pair of shoes.
424
00:16:31,834 --> 00:16:34,867
Yes, I was. I was
wearing my old shoes.
425
00:16:34,934 --> 00:16:38,500
Okay. When you got rid
of all of the stuff, Mr. Irwin,
426
00:16:38,567 --> 00:16:40,166
you didn't go through any of it?
427
00:16:40,233 --> 00:16:41,767
No, I did not.
428
00:16:41,834 --> 00:16:46,500
Did you give her any notice
that she had 10 days,
429
00:16:46,567 --> 00:16:49,100
two weeks, to get her stuff?
430
00:16:49,166 --> 00:16:50,734
I did not give her notice.
431
00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,734
On what date did you
dispose of all of her stuff?
432
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,600
It would have been around
July 20th,
433
00:16:56,667 --> 00:16:58,233
about 20 days after or so.
434
00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:02,834
Okay, well-- but, even according
to your eviction notice,
435
00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:05,300
she had 30 days to vacate.
436
00:17:05,367 --> 00:17:07,133
Well, if you read
the actual eviction notice,
437
00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,000
it's five days. After five days,
438
00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:10,767
you have to file another part
of the eviction notice,
439
00:17:10,834 --> 00:17:12,967
which is unlawful detainer,
440
00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:14,633
meaning that she is now there illegally.
441
00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:18,767
So, she left within
the five days willfully.
442
00:17:20,834 --> 00:17:23,900
I'm 19 years old,
and I want to live to be 79.
443
00:17:23,967 --> 00:17:27,133
And right now, that
doesn't look good for you.
444
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,100
I'm telling you, you look troubled
445
00:17:29,166 --> 00:17:31,367
and older than your years.
446
00:17:43,166 --> 00:17:45,133
19-year-old Isabel Irwin
447
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,667
{\an8}has accused her father, Neil Irwin,
448
00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:50,367
{\an8}of throwing out her personal property.
449
00:17:50,433 --> 00:17:52,800
Neil claims he paid
for Isabel's belongings.
450
00:17:52,867 --> 00:17:55,533
Okay,
so you didn't file the next step.
451
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,533
- I did not.
- So she left within five days.
452
00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,000
- That was...
- Yes.
453
00:17:59,066 --> 00:18:01,266
And she just left the place a mess.
454
00:18:01,333 --> 00:18:02,333
A mess, yes.
455
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,500
Okay. Who's this?
456
00:18:03,567 --> 00:18:05,033
This is my mother, Janice Leonard.
457
00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:08,767
Could you stand up, please,
for a moment.
458
00:18:08,834 --> 00:18:11,100
Miss Leonard, how many
grandkids do you have?
459
00:18:11,166 --> 00:18:13,967
Well, from Neil, two. I have six.
460
00:18:14,033 --> 00:18:16,400
{\an8}Did you and Miss Irwin get along?
461
00:18:16,467 --> 00:18:18,800
{\an8}Oh, yes. She came to--
462
00:18:18,867 --> 00:18:20,600
{\an8}we lived in Idaho at the time.
463
00:18:20,667 --> 00:18:24,033
I had an equestrian center,
so every summer
464
00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:26,667
she would be there all summer long.
465
00:18:26,734 --> 00:18:29,100
We taught her to ride.
She had the best horses.
466
00:18:29,166 --> 00:18:32,266
She jumped.
She was a fantastic rider.
467
00:18:32,333 --> 00:18:33,867
But, as the years went on,
468
00:18:33,934 --> 00:18:35,900
it was just getting more difficult.
469
00:18:35,967 --> 00:18:39,967
When she turned 14, her
behavior changed drastically.
470
00:18:40,033 --> 00:18:41,600
Can you describe--
471
00:18:41,667 --> 00:18:46,266
I know that you moved back
to where your son lived,
472
00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:49,300
and according to the answer,
he gave you a key to the house.
473
00:18:49,367 --> 00:18:51,200
He was in Las Vegas on a trip...
474
00:18:51,266 --> 00:18:52,367
That's correct.
475
00:18:52,433 --> 00:18:55,000
Could you describe,
when you went into the house,
476
00:18:55,066 --> 00:18:57,066
what Miss Irwin's room looked like?
477
00:18:57,133 --> 00:18:59,166
Every time I would go over there,
478
00:18:59,233 --> 00:19:01,600
the house would be worse
every single day,
479
00:19:01,667 --> 00:19:05,000
and there was a very strong,
pungent smell,
480
00:19:05,066 --> 00:19:07,166
so I thought the dogs
were going to the bathroom.
481
00:19:07,233 --> 00:19:09,200
Her room was a total disaster.
482
00:19:09,266 --> 00:19:12,133
There's clothes literally strewn--
483
00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,533
I don't know how tall.
484
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,166
Twelve inches, maybe.
485
00:19:16,233 --> 00:19:17,834
Nothing was ever picked up,
486
00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:19,834
and one day
before Neil came back,
487
00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:23,166
I said, "This place
is really smelling bad."
488
00:19:23,233 --> 00:19:27,300
And later I learned that
they were smoking marijuana.
489
00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:29,500
They would be in the bedroom
and giggling,
490
00:19:29,567 --> 00:19:32,200
and in the bathroom together,
491
00:19:32,266 --> 00:19:34,333
and when I would come,
she'd only be there
492
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,033
for maybe 20 minutes,
and they both would leave.
493
00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:41,433
There was no respect, I have to say.
494
00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,500
I've seen her in action,
495
00:19:43,567 --> 00:19:46,066
and she can be very nice and very polite,
496
00:19:46,133 --> 00:19:49,700
but there's a whole 'nother side
that is actually very scary,
497
00:19:49,767 --> 00:19:52,867
to the point when she was,
years ago, 14,
498
00:19:52,934 --> 00:19:55,433
my husband and I were
locking our bedroom door
499
00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:57,800
because we were afraid
of her when she stayed.
500
00:19:57,867 --> 00:19:58,900
Okay. Thank you.
501
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,867
Isabel--
is that what they call you?
502
00:20:01,934 --> 00:20:04,667
- Uh, yes.
- Isabel.
503
00:20:04,734 --> 00:20:07,467
Word of advice, caution.
504
00:20:07,533 --> 00:20:09,734
- You're 19?
- Yes.
505
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,133
You look older.
That's not a compliment.
506
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,000
You seem like
an intelligent young woman.
507
00:20:16,066 --> 00:20:18,934
- Thank you.
- But I see issues there
508
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,967
of blaming everyone else,
and it's very possible
509
00:20:22,033 --> 00:20:25,433
that your father and your
mother and other people
510
00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:28,467
share the blame in your issues.
That's possible.
511
00:20:28,533 --> 00:20:31,100
But at this point in your life, Isabel,
512
00:20:31,166 --> 00:20:33,100
you are just starting,
513
00:20:33,166 --> 00:20:35,066
and you can either spend your life
514
00:20:35,133 --> 00:20:39,934
blaming somebody else-- parent,
grandparents, siblings--
515
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,734
for where you are, or you can say,
516
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,934
"I have to get myself some help,"
517
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,100
and put a period,
"'cause I'm 19 years old
518
00:20:47,166 --> 00:20:49,266
and I want to live to be 79."
519
00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:52,700
And right now, that doesn't
look good for you.
520
00:20:52,767 --> 00:20:55,100
I'm telling you, you look troubled
521
00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:57,333
and older than your years.
522
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,967
Your father looks better,
your grandmother looks better.
523
00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:03,700
They look appropriate
to their age and stage,
524
00:21:03,767 --> 00:21:06,467
and clearer, so I think that
you should get some help.
525
00:21:06,533 --> 00:21:10,533
I also think, Mr. Irwin,
there were things in her room.
526
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,467
And I, believe me,
I have seen rooms like that.
527
00:21:13,533 --> 00:21:15,900
You know, I have been
involved with lots of kids
528
00:21:15,967 --> 00:21:17,700
and grandchildren.
529
00:21:17,767 --> 00:21:21,100
Most of them grow up, and once
they get a place of their own,
530
00:21:21,166 --> 00:21:24,767
they walk around
with a bottle of Windex and Bounty
531
00:21:24,834 --> 00:21:27,033
and clean up after
everybody's fingerprints,
532
00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:29,166
but if they're living
in their parents' house
533
00:21:29,233 --> 00:21:31,934
or their grandparents' house,
they live like slobs.
534
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,400
Sometimes that never changes.
535
00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:36,800
But, you know, there's messy,
536
00:21:36,867 --> 00:21:40,767
and then there is dysfunctional,
537
00:21:40,834 --> 00:21:44,100
and what you are describing
is dysfunctional,
538
00:21:44,166 --> 00:21:47,133
and I think if
your daughter was honest,
539
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,533
she would look and she would
say that's dysfunctional.
540
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,266
You were in the room, Cory?
541
00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:52,333
Yes, Your Honor.
542
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,100
Stand up.
543
00:21:54,166 --> 00:21:56,233
Would you describe
your girlfriend's room
544
00:21:56,300 --> 00:21:59,800
in her father's house as
evidence of being dysfunctional?
545
00:21:59,867 --> 00:22:02,133
- Um...
- Not an um.
546
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,100
Right here, Cory.
547
00:22:04,166 --> 00:22:06,734
Does her room look like your room?
548
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,333
No, it does not, Your Honor.
549
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,934
Would your mother permit your room
to look like her room?
550
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,100
Uh...
551
00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:15,967
Uh's not an answer, Cory.
552
00:22:16,033 --> 00:22:19,900
Would your mother permit your room
553
00:22:19,967 --> 00:22:22,066
where you're-- that you're sharing--
554
00:22:22,133 --> 00:22:25,800
to look like the room
that was in his house
555
00:22:25,867 --> 00:22:28,700
where your girlfriend lived
and you stayed occasionally?
556
00:22:28,767 --> 00:22:30,066
No, Your Honor.
557
00:22:30,133 --> 00:22:31,734
Okay, sit down.
558
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,800
You should have looked
for the necklace.
559
00:22:33,867 --> 00:22:36,900
He gave me an honest answer
to everything that I asked him,
560
00:22:36,967 --> 00:22:40,734
so the necklace was probably
mixed in with a load of garbage
561
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,066
that was there...
562
00:22:42,133 --> 00:22:43,367
To say the least.
563
00:22:43,433 --> 00:22:45,934
...that was like a hoarder,
so I'm awarding you...
564
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,400
Your Honor,
I have a video of the room.
565
00:22:48,467 --> 00:22:51,433
...to your boyfriend $250
to go and buy her a new necklace.
566
00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:52,800
Thank you very much.
This case is over.
567
00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:55,066
- Thank you, Your Honor.
- This court is adjourned.
568
00:22:57,433 --> 00:23:00,800
{\an8}I agree with the judge's decision 100%.
I think it was very fair.
569
00:23:00,867 --> 00:23:02,266
{\an8}I think it wasn't fair.
570
00:23:02,333 --> 00:23:04,934
{\an8}She has so much more potential
than what she's doing right now.
571
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,400
{\an8}I was just trying to get my belongings,
572
00:23:06,467 --> 00:23:08,800
{\an8}and he literally just
never wanted me to do it.
573
00:23:08,867 --> 00:23:10,900
{\an8}She's a great kid, in all reality.
574
00:23:10,967 --> 00:23:12,934
{\an8}She's just making some
wrong decisions right now.
575
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,767
{\an8}...all made any really
bad decisions.
576
00:23:14,834 --> 00:23:16,467
{\an8}It's all been influenced by my father.
577
00:23:16,533 --> 00:23:19,033
{\an8}You know, the apple doesn't
fall far from the tree.
578
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:22,266
{\an8}I hope she grows up, and I love her.
579
00:23:22,333 --> 00:23:25,266
{\an8}I know I need to grow up,
but he evicted me,
580
00:23:25,333 --> 00:23:28,033
{\an8}gave me two days, and I didn't
want to make my dad mad.
581
00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:31,600
I hope you weren't talking about me
when you were thinking
582
00:23:31,667 --> 00:23:33,800
of your grandchildren
keeping messy rooms.
583
00:23:33,867 --> 00:23:36,100
I try and be neat and nice and organized.
584
00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:38,166
Well, I wasn't thinking
about you today,
585
00:23:38,233 --> 00:23:40,100
as a law school graduate,
586
00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:42,500
but I do remember,
587
00:23:42,567 --> 00:23:45,066
- when you were in college...
- Me as a 19-year-old.
588
00:23:45,133 --> 00:23:49,066
...and you were staying with us
rather than in the dorm,
589
00:23:49,133 --> 00:23:51,433
keeping your door closed
because it looked like
590
00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,400
somebody hit your room
with a Mix Master.
591
00:23:53,467 --> 00:23:55,734
There were just a few
592
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,266
too many open suitcases, I guess.
593
00:23:57,333 --> 00:24:00,266
Yeah, open unpacked suitcases.
594
00:24:00,333 --> 00:24:03,166
But... got older and more respectful,
595
00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:04,967
and then you had your own apartment,
596
00:24:05,033 --> 00:24:07,000
and I remember visiting
your apartment,
597
00:24:07,066 --> 00:24:09,066
and I said,
"Who is it that lives here?"
598
00:24:09,133 --> 00:24:10,734
I couldn't figure out who lived here--
599
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,700
not the same person who lived with me.
600
00:24:12,767 --> 00:24:14,166
It's a maturity thing,
601
00:24:14,233 --> 00:24:15,867
and I think... I was shocked
602
00:24:15,934 --> 00:24:17,834
to see that she was
only 19 years old,
603
00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:19,400
in line with what you said to her,
604
00:24:19,467 --> 00:24:21,367
that she looks older beyond her years,
605
00:24:21,433 --> 00:24:23,266
and some difficulty can do that to you,
606
00:24:23,333 --> 00:24:25,166
but you have to take accountability
607
00:24:25,233 --> 00:24:27,834
and do what you can
to make your life organized
608
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,300
and set yourself up for success.
609
00:24:29,367 --> 00:24:31,834
That, you know, all that is true.
610
00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:36,300
I'm not sure that she has
all the tools to do that,
611
00:24:36,367 --> 00:24:38,867
and I don't know if she has
anybody there to guide her.
612
00:24:38,934 --> 00:24:40,367
It's too bad because she seems
613
00:24:40,433 --> 00:24:42,567
like an intelligent young woman,
614
00:24:42,633 --> 00:24:44,633
and her grandmother
certainly portrayed a picture
615
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,867
of a child who was accomplished
when she was younger,
616
00:24:47,934 --> 00:24:49,700
and then something happened.
617
00:24:49,767 --> 00:24:51,467
I hope she turns it around.
618
00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:53,800
Hope she turns it around.
I hope it's not other issues.
619
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:57,467
Are you having a family dispute?
620
00:24:57,533 --> 00:24:59,400
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