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{\an8}You had a kerfuffle with him?
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He was my friend.
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- I apologize, but I'm emotional.
- Well, don't get emotional.
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It's a sad thing,
but I need facts and information.
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We went to the same high school,
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played on the same
high school basketball team.
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You're not paying attention to me, sir.
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This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}Marquis Marshall and Khai Booker
are suing their former employer,
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{\an8}Gary Zephyrn, for unpaid wages.
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Court come to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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Hello, Judge.
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Case number 2071,
Booker Marshall vs. Zephyrin.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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- Zephyrin?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Mr. Zephyrin,
you're being sued by
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these two people because they say they
worked for you delivering packages.
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Packages, I believe, of auto parts.
Is that right?
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Yes, Judge.
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And you didn't pay them? That's simple.
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{\an8}You're in the auto parts
business or just the delivery business?
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- {\an8}-
- Just the delivery business.
- For how long?
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- For about a year.
- Explain the business to me.
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Since you're not in the auto parts
business, just the delivery business,
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I have to understand the process.
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And keep it short.
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The process is I go to the store,
pick up the car parts.
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Go to what store?
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Hyundai or Toyota.
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So you go to the manufacturer?
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- Yes.
- Or the dealership.
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- The dealership.
- And get the part?
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And get the part and deliver it.
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And you take them
to independent garages that fix cars?
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- Yes.
- Okay. Now, I understand.
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Your business is
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you're sort of
a middle person between
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your local auto repair shop
and the manufacturer
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who manufactures
those parts or its dealer.
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- Yes, that's correct.
- You don't make a markup on the part,
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you're just paid for your
delivery service, is that right?
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{\an8}Yes. I do not pay for the parts.
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{\an8}All I do is drive and deliver their parts.
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So the part has already been
ordered and paid for.
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- Yes.
- By the garage.
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- By ABC Garage?
- Yes.
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They just send
you to expedite the delivery?
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Yes, ma'am.
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And how much
do you get paid for each delivery?
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Well, it's not by each delivery.
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At this particular contract,
it was between $120 and $160 a day.
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And you said that
"this particular contract."
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What contract is that?
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This is the car parts contract
before the car parts,
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delivering the car parts.
I was delivering packages.
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- But this operation was just car parts?
- Yes, it was.
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Now, at some point,
these two people,
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how many vans
do you have that deliver the parts?
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At the-- currently I have one van.
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What were they using to deliver the parts?
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The van that I have.
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And what did you do?
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I worked in my nine-to-five.
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- You had a different job?
- Yes.
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What kind of job did you have?
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I work at the
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So this is sort of a side gig.
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A hobby, I would say.
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Well, a hobby, $120 and $160 a day
is a nice hobby.
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- I think so.
- Yeah.
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Okay. And so based upon
what you told me before,
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both of these people did in fact,
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deliver parts using
your van to various ABC garages.
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They also used it for personal use, too.
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I don't care. But they used it
because you didn't use it.
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You were doing your day job,
according to you,
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- Yes.
- And this was a side gig
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where these two people were working
during the day to deliver the parts.
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Mr. Marshall was working during the day.
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- Okay. Let's just say Mr. Marshall.
- Okay.
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Now Mr. Marshall sort of
contracted with Miss Booker.
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- Or did you?
- Mr. Marshall did.
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You contracted with her.
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You agreed with her that
you would split up this delivery.
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You were-- would do it
a couple of days
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- and she would do it a couple of days?
- Yes, Judge.
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Okay, so you had no
direct agreement with him.
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Miss Booker, might look at me.
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My question is,
did you have a direct agreement
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{\an8}or ever meet or discuss salary
with the defendant?
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- No, I did not discuss that.
- Then you can sit down.
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{\an8}Okay.
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Because you have to have
some sort of an agreement
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with someone in order to sue them.
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You had no agreement with him.
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Whatever agreement you had,
you had with him, correct?
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- Yeah.
- Is that right?
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- {\an8}-
- Yeah.
- And am I correct, Mr. Marshall,
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{\an8}that you were supposed to be paid,
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according to you,
a certain amount per day
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to make these deliveries,
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you decided you wanted to work
three days a week
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- and she would work two?
- Yes, Judge.
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That's what I thought I read. Okay.
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{\an8}How much was the
defendant supposed to pay you a day?
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{\an8}$80, Judge.
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{\an8}So you had a deal
for between 120 and 160 a day.
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You were paying him 80.
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You were working your day job and so,
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you were either going to get $40 or $80,
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depending upon the work
that was done, right?
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Correct.
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And you were going to
get that as a result of his work?
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- Yes.
- Perfect. Now, this is what you say.
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You say that you
all decided to go into business together.
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You bought this van,
you paid for the insurance,
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he was going
to work and make the deliveries.
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- I'm telling you what you wrote.
- Okay.
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And if you have a problem with that,
you'll tell me in a minute.
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- Okay.
- He was supposed to work,
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make the deliveries, and not get paid
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until you paid off all your expenses,
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your startup expenses,
the van, your insurance.
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- Didn't you say that to me?
- Yes.
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Or maybe I'm thinking about another case.
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- I did-- I did say that.
- You did say that to me.
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{\an8}I just want to correct the
"we" because I bought the van
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{\an8}- and I paid up all the
- I said you paid.
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I didn't say he paid. You paid the van.
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You paid for the insurance.
He was going to drive.
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He says you were supposed
to pay him $80 a day to do that
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because you had a full-time job.
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You were making your money.
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Your defense to it is that
that was not the agreement.
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The agreement was
that he would work for free
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until all the expenses were paid off
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that you advanced for
the little business.
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- Yeah.
- Right?
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- Yes.
- How much was the van?
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- $2,000.
- So it was an old van?
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Yes.
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And how many months
did you work at this job
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before you had a kerfuffle with him?
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A year and three months.
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Is that correct, sir?
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That he worked a year and three months?
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It seems more about, uh,
close to a year to me.
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And when you say you worked for a year,
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Was that 52 weeks a year?
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- Yes.
- Five days a week.
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Yes. Sometimes on Saturday.
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From when to when?
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I would work, depending on--
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No, from what month and
year to what month and year?
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Oh. January 2021,
until March or April 2022.
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And in that year plus,
how much money did you make?
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{\an8}If you kept records of the days
that you worked
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{\an8}and how many hours you worked
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{\an8}and how much you were supposed to be paid,
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{\an8}then I could look at that.
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{\an8}But I can't do this, this is ridiculous.
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- {\an8}-
- Judge, may I explain?
- You can try,
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{\an8}but you're going to be
unsuccessful, Mr. Marshall.
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{\an8}But I'm gonna give you
an opportunity to try.
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{\an8}And later today...
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{\an8}He did in fact bring you a truck.
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- {\an8}-
- He didn't.
- Never brought you a truck?
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{\an8}Never brought me the truck,
never returned my money, anything.
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{\an8}Oh...
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Marquis Marshall and Khai Booker
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{\an8}claimed their former employer,
Gary Zephyrin
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owes for unpaid contractor work.
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Okay. In that year plus,
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how much money did you make?
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Judge, it's a tough question,
because Mr. Zephyrin never paid me
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what he was supposed to pay me.
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He always came
up with an excuse or a reason.
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I want to know how much
money you made in that year.
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I don't know off
the top of my head, Judge.
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Well, he said-- then I can't help you.
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I have to know how much money he paid you,
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and I'm going to figure out
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from how much money he paid you.
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Because even if I buy his defense,
the van was only $2,000.
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So you have to sit down and
figure out how much unless you know.
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How much did you pay him?
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Around $320 a week.
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What do you mean "around"?
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I mean, you're a businessman.
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He did not work five days a week.
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He's saying he worked
four to six days a week.
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All he worked
was three to five days a week.
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I assume you were paid in cash?
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- Yes.
- But you were paid during that year.
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Yes.
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Give me an idea in thousands
how much you were paid.
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Around $20,000?
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$20,000?
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- Yes, Judge.
- "Around"?
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- {\an8}-
- Yes, Judge.
- So he did in fact, pay you?
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{\an8}He didn't pay me everything
he was supposed to pay me, Judge.
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Well, how am I supposed to
figure that out, sir?
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How am I supposed to figure that out?
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You keep records of what you delivered?
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Does he keep records?
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He doesn't have to prove your case.
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- You have to prove your case.
- Yes, Judge.
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{\an8}So do you keep records
of when you worked
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{\an8}and when you were paid?
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{\an8}Yes, I keep records
of when I worked, Judge,
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{\an8}but I did not keep records
of what I was paid,
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{\an8}because we're always arguing.
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- He never paid me the full $700.
- That's not--
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That's not the reason
you don't keep records.
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I'm sorry, Mr. Marshall.
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If you kept records of the days
that you worked
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and how many hours you worked
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and how much
you were supposed to be paid,
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then I could look at that
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and I can ask him,
and I assume he's a businessman,
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he would have the same records,
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and there may be a dispute,
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but I can't do this this,
this is ridiculous.
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Judge, may I explain?
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You can try, but you're going
to be unsuccessful, Mr. Marshall.
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But I'm going to
give you an opportunity to try.
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I appreciate it, Your Honor.
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Mr. Zephyrin was my friend.
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We went to the same high school,
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played on the same
high school basketball team.
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I was the MVP.
He was the team captain.
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Recently, his health has been declining.
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Because his health has been declining.
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A year ago,
I went to Mr. Zephyrin and I said,
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"I'm a private contractor
and I have different contracts or places.
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I think that you should do
private contracts so you can
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spend more time
with your kids and your wife."
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- I apologize, but I'm--
- I'm emotional.
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- {\an8}-
- Well, don't get emotional. Mr. Marshall--
- I used to love this gentleman.
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{\an8}Mr. Marshall, what I'm
telling you is don't get emotional.
242
00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,867
- {\an8}-
- This is not--
- Okay.
243
00:09:56,934 --> 00:10:00,400
It's a sad thing that you know each other
for a long time,
244
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I hear, and that it's
come down to a case in court.
245
00:10:04,467 --> 00:10:08,967
But you have to understand that
in order for me to make a judgment,
246
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I need facts and information.
247
00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:14,867
And it's not as if you're saying
to me that you delivered packages
248
00:10:14,934 --> 00:10:17,300
which he acknowledges,
and you were never paid.
249
00:10:17,367 --> 00:10:20,300
What you say
is that you were shortchanged.
250
00:10:20,367 --> 00:10:21,233
Yes, Judge.
251
00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:23,800
And you have to be able to show me that.
252
00:10:24,233 --> 00:10:27,500
I have the agreement of
Mr. Zephyrin agreeing
253
00:10:27,567 --> 00:10:29,700
to pay me the $80 a day,
and we came out with a pay--
254
00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:31,166
Just a second. That's okay.
255
00:10:31,233 --> 00:10:35,033
I have to see when you worked
and what you were paid.
256
00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:38,934
How am I supposed to figure
out what it is that he owes you?
257
00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,133
Because we both know that he
only paid me $300 instead of the $700.
258
00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,166
We both know that.
259
00:10:43,233 --> 00:10:45,900
Well, he paid you $20,000,
so that's not true.
260
00:10:45,967 --> 00:10:47,734
According to you, he paid you $20,000.
261
00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,667
So if what you're saying that
262
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he paid you $300
and he owed you $700?
263
00:10:52,867 --> 00:10:54,700
- Is that what you're saying to me?
- Yes.
264
00:10:54,767 --> 00:10:56,734
Okay, so it was the last period of time
265
00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,533
- that you worked for him?
- Yes.
266
00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,533
Okay, so that last period
of time was when to when?
267
00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,467
- Give me the month. Give me the day.
- January to March this year.
268
00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:07,567
- From January to March?
- Yes, Judge.
269
00:11:07,633 --> 00:11:09,800
- Of 2022?
- Yes, Judge
270
00:11:09,867 --> 00:11:13,700
You worked and you claim
you were owed $700.
271
00:11:13,767 --> 00:11:15,300
That's what you just said.
Is that correct?
272
00:11:15,367 --> 00:11:18,367
I apologize for
the miscommunication, Judge.
273
00:11:18,433 --> 00:11:20,967
He only paid me three
when he was supposed to pay me seven.
274
00:11:21,033 --> 00:11:23,500
Just a second.
You're not paying attention to me, sir.
275
00:11:23,567 --> 00:11:27,166
I said your claim
is that he owed you $700.
276
00:11:27,233 --> 00:11:28,633
He owes me more than $700.
277
00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:32,633
No, what you said was
"He owed me $700
278
00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:35,166
and he only paid me $300."
279
00:11:35,233 --> 00:11:36,700
- Could you read that back?
- Correct. Yes, yes.
280
00:11:36,767 --> 00:11:37,800
- Yes, Judge.
- Could you read that?
281
00:11:37,867 --> 00:11:39,433
Yes, Judge. You're correct, Judge.
282
00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,433
Okay, then we don't have to read it back.
283
00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:44,400
That's why I have Whitney.
You said "He owed me seven.
284
00:11:44,467 --> 00:11:45,834
- He only paid me three."
- Right.
285
00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:48,333
- Which means he owes you $400.
- Correct, Judge.
286
00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,166
And that was from a January to a March?
287
00:11:52,233 --> 00:11:53,433
- Yes. Judge.
- Okay.
288
00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:55,567
Do you have any records of that, sir?
289
00:11:55,633 --> 00:11:58,400
I paid him in cash,
so I don't have any records
290
00:11:58,467 --> 00:12:00,600
of the payments that I was paying him.
291
00:12:00,667 --> 00:12:03,734
Mr. Marshall,
he really never wanted me to keep records.
292
00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,867
Okay, don't tell me
what he wants. It's your business.
293
00:12:05,934 --> 00:12:07,166
Don't be foolish, sir.
294
00:12:07,233 --> 00:12:09,900
Did you have
a dispute with him over this $400?
295
00:12:09,967 --> 00:12:12,834
- I did. We had many disputes.
- Okay.
296
00:12:12,900 --> 00:12:14,867
Did you in those disputes,
297
00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:19,266
{\an8}refer to a part that got mis-delivered?
298
00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:23,600
{\an8}by either the plaintiff or the
person who he subcontracted with
299
00:12:23,667 --> 00:12:25,600
that caused you to lose a customer?
300
00:12:25,667 --> 00:12:26,834
- Yes.
- Okay.
301
00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:31,233
And was that the reason
that you didn't give him the $400?
302
00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:32,834
Just listen to my question.
303
00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:37,233
You had a dispute
after all this time over a part,
304
00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:41,233
according to your answer,
that was mis-delivered to a customer?
305
00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:42,166
Yes.
306
00:12:42,233 --> 00:12:45,266
Which caused you,
according to you, to lose the customer.
307
00:12:45,333 --> 00:12:46,266
I don't know that.
308
00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:51,734
But that you indicated was the
reason that this arrangement went south.
309
00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,867
So my question to you is,
is that why you didn't pay him the $400?
310
00:12:56,934 --> 00:13:00,066
No, it's not.
He didn't return my van.
311
00:13:00,133 --> 00:13:03,433
Oh. So the reason you didn't pay
him the $400
312
00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:05,800
that you acknowledge that you owe him
313
00:13:05,867 --> 00:13:07,367
was because he kept your van?
314
00:13:07,433 --> 00:13:12,333
Yes, and my contract
was canceled due to Khai Booker.
315
00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,367
Okay. Did you get your van back?
316
00:13:14,433 --> 00:13:16,800
- Yes, I did.
- How many days later?
317
00:13:16,867 --> 00:13:20,200
Two days later.
I threatened to call the police.
318
00:13:20,266 --> 00:13:21,967
Okay. You owe the $400, sir.
319
00:13:22,033 --> 00:13:23,934
Judgment for the plaintiff
for the amount of $400.
320
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,367
We're finished. Thank you.
321
00:13:25,433 --> 00:13:26,967
This court is adjourned.
322
00:13:27,033 --> 00:13:31,734
{\an8}You can't keep somebody's van
for 48 hours and still expect the money.
323
00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,800
{\an8}He's lying about the fact
that we stole the van
324
00:13:33,867 --> 00:13:35,233
{\an8}and that we had it for those two days.
325
00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:38,300
{\an8}I think it was really bad
that he's suing me over this.
326
00:13:38,367 --> 00:13:40,000
{\an8}We've been friends since high school.
327
00:13:40,066 --> 00:13:42,100
{\an8}Document everything that you do
when you do do it.
328
00:13:42,166 --> 00:13:43,367
{\an8}That would make better sense.
329
00:13:43,433 --> 00:13:44,467
{\an8}But, hey, things happen.
330
00:13:44,533 --> 00:13:46,367
{\an8}He got a new girlfriend and things happen.
331
00:13:46,433 --> 00:13:51,100
Not a difficult situation.
If you choose to pay an employee
332
00:13:51,166 --> 00:13:53,767
in cash, you have to keep records.
333
00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:55,767
Both parties should
have kept some sort of records.
334
00:13:55,834 --> 00:13:57,867
Otherwise, what they're
asking me to do is guess.
335
00:13:57,934 --> 00:13:58,800
Mm-hmm.
336
00:13:58,867 --> 00:14:00,967
This defendant
actually made it easy for me,
337
00:14:01,033 --> 00:14:02,500
because without his statement,
338
00:14:02,567 --> 00:14:04,166
I would have dismissed the case.
339
00:14:04,233 --> 00:14:06,834
He said the reason he kept the $400
340
00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:10,667
because plaintiff did not return his
van right away for two days.
341
00:14:10,734 --> 00:14:12,633
Well, that's sort of retaliatory.
342
00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:14,934
How do you fix $400? As...
343
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,533
Cost for keeping a van.
344
00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,667
As a cost-- you know,
that's ridiculous. That's self help.
345
00:14:18,734 --> 00:14:20,066
- Keep records.
- You should.
346
00:14:20,133 --> 00:14:21,500
Especially if you want to come to court.
347
00:14:21,567 --> 00:14:22,500
Exactly.
348
00:14:22,567 --> 00:14:24,066
Case number 2075.
349
00:14:24,133 --> 00:14:25,467
Johnson vs. McIntosh.
350
00:14:25,533 --> 00:14:27,266
All parties, please step forward.
351
00:14:27,333 --> 00:14:29,100
{\an8}Dominique Johnson
352
00:14:29,166 --> 00:14:30,967
{\an8}is suing her children's uncle,
353
00:14:31,033 --> 00:14:32,200
{\an8}Chris McIntosh,
354
00:14:32,266 --> 00:14:34,767
for a truck she never received.
355
00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:36,767
Ms. Johnson,
this is your brother in law?
356
00:14:36,834 --> 00:14:40,233
I believe that-- is it your husband,
or is he your ex-husband?
357
00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:42,100
No, he's just my kid's father.
358
00:14:42,166 --> 00:14:45,200
Okay. The father of your
children is currently incarcerated?
359
00:14:45,266 --> 00:14:47,100
- Yes.
- So he's not your brother-in-law,
360
00:14:47,166 --> 00:14:50,033
he's just the brother of
the father of your children?
361
00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:51,600
- Yes.
- Okay. You have two children?
362
00:14:51,667 --> 00:14:53,734
- I have three.
- Is he the uncle of all three?
363
00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,734
Yes.
364
00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,867
There came a time when you were in need
365
00:14:56,934 --> 00:14:59,100
{\an8}of a new vehicle or a different vehicle.
366
00:14:59,166 --> 00:15:01,000
- {\an8}-
- Your car was giving you trouble?
- Yes.
367
00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:03,100
Mr. McIntosh,
according to what I've read,
368
00:15:03,166 --> 00:15:05,400
has tried to maintain a relationship
369
00:15:05,467 --> 00:15:07,500
- with his brother's children.
- Yes.
370
00:15:07,567 --> 00:15:10,266
Despite the fact that you no
longer have a relationship with him?
371
00:15:10,333 --> 00:15:11,233
Yes.
372
00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:13,767
And according to what I'm
putting together, you reached out to him,
373
00:15:13,834 --> 00:15:15,200
or you were on the phone with him
374
00:15:15,266 --> 00:15:17,133
- and told him he needed another car.
- Yes.
375
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,400
And according to you,
he said he had a car.
376
00:15:19,467 --> 00:15:21,033
- A truck.
- Yes.
377
00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:24,367
That he would sell you for $2,700.
378
00:15:24,433 --> 00:15:26,400
Yes, that he would personally bring to me.
379
00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:29,633
And he did, in fact, bring you a truck?
380
00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:30,667
He didn't.
381
00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:34,967
{\an8}So on what day did you buy it?
382
00:15:35,033 --> 00:15:36,000
{\an8}I don't...
383
00:15:36,066 --> 00:15:38,300
{\an8}Think. You know,
you're coming to court today.
384
00:15:38,367 --> 00:15:40,900
{\an8}You knew that this was
the issue when you came here.
385
00:15:40,967 --> 00:15:42,700
- {\an8}-
- Yeah.
- Not "Yeah." Yes.
386
00:15:54,266 --> 00:15:57,633
{\an8}Dominique Johnson
claims her children's uncle,
387
00:15:57,700 --> 00:16:02,567
{\an8}Chris McIntosh, owes for the
cost of a truck she never received.
388
00:16:02,633 --> 00:16:04,800
According to you, he said he had a car.
389
00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:06,133
- A truck.
- Yes.
390
00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,467
That he would sell you for $2,700.
391
00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:11,767
Yes, that he would personally bring to me.
392
00:16:11,834 --> 00:16:14,600
And he did, in fact, bring you a truck.
393
00:16:14,934 --> 00:16:17,500
- He didn't.
- Never brought you a truck?
394
00:16:17,567 --> 00:16:20,967
Never brought me the truck,
never returned my money, anything.
395
00:16:21,033 --> 00:16:22,533
- Oh!
- I even tried--
396
00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,600
- Just a second.
- Okay.
397
00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:26,300
- So you sent him the $2,700.
- Yes.
398
00:16:26,367 --> 00:16:29,133
- What date?
- June 21st of this year.
399
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,400
{\an8}What happened to her $2,700?
400
00:16:31,467 --> 00:16:33,033
{\an8}Bought the truck there
and then dropped it off.
401
00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,133
What truck did you bring there?
402
00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,300
{\an8}2007 Suburban.
403
00:16:36,367 --> 00:16:37,533
And where did you get that truck from?
404
00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,767
I got it from a auction.
405
00:16:38,834 --> 00:16:40,000
Okay. I'd like to see the paperwork.
406
00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:42,467
- I don't have the paperwork.
- Well, that's unfortunate.
407
00:16:42,533 --> 00:16:44,834
Why wouldn't you bring the paperwork?
It's only a couple of months ago.
408
00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:47,500
Because the auction
is every first Thursday.
409
00:16:47,567 --> 00:16:49,567
It's not the same
person running the same auction.
410
00:16:49,633 --> 00:16:52,033
They don't have
the same paperwork for the auction.
411
00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:55,166
Well, if you had paperwork,
you would have also had a title for it.
412
00:16:55,233 --> 00:16:57,333
Yeah, and I left it in
the glove compartment box.
413
00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,100
What's the name of the auction?
414
00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:01,367
Where are they located?
415
00:17:01,433 --> 00:17:02,700
Minneapolis, Minnesota.
416
00:17:02,767 --> 00:17:05,200
- Sarah, would you look that up, please?
- Sure.
417
00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:07,600
- She did send you the money.
- Correct.
418
00:17:07,667 --> 00:17:09,500
- How did she send it to you?
- Cash App.
419
00:17:09,567 --> 00:17:11,266
Which I have proof, Your Honor.
420
00:17:11,333 --> 00:17:12,633
Yeah. There's only one issue.
421
00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:14,767
She says that you never
brought any truck.
422
00:17:14,834 --> 00:17:17,233
You say, well, you bought
this truck at an auction.
423
00:17:17,300 --> 00:17:19,233
The auction is every Thursday.
424
00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,000
Every first Thursday of the month.
425
00:17:21,066 --> 00:17:23,900
First Thursday.
So, on what date did you buy it?
426
00:17:23,967 --> 00:17:25,633
- I don't...
- Think.
427
00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:27,333
You know you're coming to court today.
428
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,800
You knew that this was the
issue when you came here.
429
00:17:29,867 --> 00:17:31,800
- Yeah.
- Not "Yeah," yes.
430
00:17:31,867 --> 00:17:35,400
So what date was it
that you bought the truck?
431
00:17:35,467 --> 00:17:37,266
- That you have no paperwork for at all.
- Thursday.
432
00:17:37,333 --> 00:17:39,333
- Thursday.
- Which Thursday?
433
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,567
What month was that
I bought you the truck?
434
00:17:41,633 --> 00:17:45,734
I really don't know.
I-I'm being so serious right now, like...
435
00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,934
Honestly, if I could speak,
it was June 21st I sent him the money.
436
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,900
June 21st was when he was
supposed to bring the truck to me.
437
00:17:51,967 --> 00:17:53,300
He never brought the truck then.
438
00:17:53,367 --> 00:17:55,367
Then he stated to me
that he sold the truck
439
00:17:55,433 --> 00:17:57,433
and that he had another one that was less.
440
00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:59,333
And I have that truck as well.
441
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,934
This was the first truck
initially I was supposed to get.
442
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,767
Did he ever bring you any truck?
443
00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:05,266
No, not at all.
444
00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:07,166
Do you have any phone messages?
445
00:18:07,233 --> 00:18:08,934
- I do.
- I'd like to see them, please.
446
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,967
N... Towing...
447
00:18:11,033 --> 00:18:13,100
It's a towing and auction house.
448
00:18:13,166 --> 00:18:15,100
Okay.
Say when they have auctions?
449
00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:18,166
It doesn't list it on their website,
but I could try and see.
450
00:18:18,233 --> 00:18:20,967
It's a lot of them, honestly.
A lot of messages.
451
00:18:25,967 --> 00:18:27,000
- I have those dates.
- Mm-hmm.
452
00:18:27,066 --> 00:18:28,934
The auction,
they list their past auctions.
453
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,900
There was one,
May 5th of this year,
454
00:18:30,967 --> 00:18:32,133
June 5th of this year,
455
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,066
July 2nd, August 6th,
456
00:18:35,133 --> 00:18:36,867
and September 3rd of this year
was the most recent.
457
00:18:36,934 --> 00:18:39,133
- June what?
- June 5th.
458
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,333
And I actually have a list of every car
459
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,767
that was included
in that June 5th auction.
460
00:18:43,834 --> 00:18:45,266
So if you give me the make and model,
461
00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:48,367
I could see if it was included
in that auction on June 5th.
462
00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:52,066
You went in June
for the auction or in July?
463
00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:53,400
Yeah, June 5th.
464
00:18:53,467 --> 00:18:56,166
He said a 2007 Yukon, right?
465
00:18:56,233 --> 00:18:59,467
- No, Suburban.
- 2007 Suburban.
466
00:18:59,533 --> 00:19:01,567
There was actually
two different trucks that--
467
00:19:01,633 --> 00:19:03,100
Well, that's the one he said he bought.
468
00:19:03,166 --> 00:19:06,967
The only car from 2007
at the June 5th auction
469
00:19:07,033 --> 00:19:09,200
was a 2007 Nissan Murano.
470
00:19:09,266 --> 00:19:11,433
Nissan Murano.
Wasn't a Nissan Murano?
471
00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:14,333
That was the only one
that was sold in June 2007.
472
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,800
{\an8}It was sold in 2007,
but I bought a '07 Tahoe.
473
00:19:17,867 --> 00:19:18,967
- {\an8}-
- The Suburban's from--
- I understand that
474
00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:21,033
{\an8}- from the auction place on--
- but you say you bought it in June,
475
00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:24,734
and they list on the website
everything that they sold
476
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,800
in the June auction.
477
00:19:25,867 --> 00:19:28,133
- Am I understanding that right, Sarah?
- Yes. Yes.
478
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,033
They list all the cars that
they sold in the June auction.
479
00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:37,266
And the only car that they sold
that was a 2007 was a Murano.
480
00:19:37,333 --> 00:19:38,700
He says...
481
00:19:38,767 --> 00:19:42,800
"And I will be leaving in about
an hour or two after I get the Venmo.
482
00:19:42,867 --> 00:19:43,767
Mm-hmm.
483
00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:47,133
Would you please just put where
you start to ask for your money back...
484
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,000
- Oh, okay.
- because you didn't get the truck.
485
00:19:49,066 --> 00:19:50,233
That's what I want to see.
486
00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:53,166
"I want my money back
because you didn't bring me the truck."
487
00:19:53,233 --> 00:19:57,300
There was no Chevy Tahoe
2007 at the July 2nd auction--
488
00:19:57,367 --> 00:19:58,367
Either.
489
00:19:58,433 --> 00:20:02,500
And a lot of the vehicles,
a select few, are above $1,500.
490
00:20:02,567 --> 00:20:04,500
And that's for newer models.
491
00:20:04,567 --> 00:20:06,667
Everything else is under $950.
492
00:20:06,734 --> 00:20:09,734
Thank you. There was no
such car either in June or July.
493
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,667
- No.
- Okay.
494
00:20:10,734 --> 00:20:13,633
That's so interesting that
they have that information on the website.
495
00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:15,500
Ms. Johnson,
you can't just give me your phone
496
00:20:15,567 --> 00:20:18,467
- and expect me to go through pages--
- Yeah, I apologize.
497
00:20:18,533 --> 00:20:20,233
All I want,
you said you had something
498
00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:21,900
indicating that you told him you wanted
499
00:20:21,967 --> 00:20:23,700
your money back
because you didn't get a truck.
500
00:20:23,767 --> 00:20:24,900
- Okay.
- So far, there's no evidence
501
00:20:24,967 --> 00:20:26,734
that he bought you
a truck from the place...
502
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,066
- Here.
- that he said he bought you a truck.
503
00:20:28,133 --> 00:20:30,667
Yeah. Here's the part where
I'm asking for the money back.
504
00:20:30,734 --> 00:20:32,700
He doesn't have
proof that he even bought the truck.
505
00:20:32,767 --> 00:20:33,767
- Your Honor, he didn't--
- No, there is no proof
506
00:20:33,834 --> 00:20:35,500
- that he bought the truck.
- He never bought the truck.
507
00:20:35,567 --> 00:20:38,100
Okay, so starting from here,
this is me asking if
508
00:20:38,166 --> 00:20:39,767
he wanted to just Cash App
me back my money
509
00:20:39,834 --> 00:20:40,834
because he never showed up.
510
00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:42,633
- Read it to me.
- Oh, okay.
511
00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:46,133
It says, "Do you want to just
Cash App me back the whole $2700
512
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,967
because all this waiting isn't necessary.
513
00:20:48,033 --> 00:20:51,367
It's just a few taps to
Cash App me back my money.
514
00:20:51,433 --> 00:20:53,000
We can say, forget the whole thing,
515
00:20:53,066 --> 00:20:55,266
because now
this isn't sitting well with me.
516
00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:58,533
This was supposed to be easy.
I don't have my truck or my money.
517
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,900
Like, how does that work?"
518
00:20:59,967 --> 00:21:02,800
And then I offered to just
go down there and get it myself.
519
00:21:02,867 --> 00:21:04,333
And then he said that there was no place.
520
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,133
I said, "Okay, but how do I
get it home with no place?"
521
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,333
So this whole time,
he was kind of dragging me on.
522
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,300
And then this is the picture
of another truck that he sent me.
523
00:21:14,367 --> 00:21:17,000
- That's a picture of him?
- Yeah. He's posing in front of the truck.
524
00:21:17,066 --> 00:21:19,033
The second truck he supposedly
had bought for me.
525
00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:20,133
At the auction. Yeah.
526
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,367
He just told me he bought
the second truck at an auction.
527
00:21:22,433 --> 00:21:25,767
There's no indication that that
auction house where he said he bought it
528
00:21:25,834 --> 00:21:28,333
- sold a truck that he said that he bought.
- Mm-hmm.
529
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,834
Either in June or July.
530
00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:30,934
- Got that right?
- Yeah.
531
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,800
Okay,
I don't have to waste any more time.
532
00:21:32,867 --> 00:21:36,000
You have no paperwork,
Mr. McIntosh, that you bought this truck?
533
00:21:36,066 --> 00:21:40,700
You have no proof at all that you
brought this phantom truck to her house.
534
00:21:40,767 --> 00:21:42,767
Why would she
be asking for her money back?
535
00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:44,166
Because I bought her a truck
536
00:21:44,233 --> 00:21:45,600
and I dropped it off
in front of her house,
537
00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:48,200
left for the paperwork saying
what's wrong with the truck
538
00:21:48,266 --> 00:21:50,867
and the truck.
She says that she don't want it,
539
00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:54,000
so I said, my
finder's fee is only, like, $400,
540
00:21:54,066 --> 00:21:58,967
and that's $200
for just a, uh, bus ticket to get there.
541
00:21:59,033 --> 00:22:00,633
She can sell the truck
and get her money back.
542
00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:01,600
That's what I told her.
543
00:22:01,667 --> 00:22:03,867
$2,700. Judgement for the plaintiff.
544
00:22:03,934 --> 00:22:05,600
- Thank you very much.
- This court is adjourned.
545
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,934
{\an8}I hope this don't affect the
relationship with my nieces and nephew.
546
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,567
{\an8}I'm not really here to bad talk anybody.
547
00:22:11,633 --> 00:22:13,533
{\an8}I just wanted, you know, my money back.
548
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,300
{\an8}I left it there with
the papers and the receipts.
549
00:22:16,367 --> 00:22:17,567
{\an8}Right is right, wrong is wrong.
550
00:22:17,633 --> 00:22:18,600
{\an8}She said she didn't want it.
551
00:22:18,667 --> 00:22:20,633
{\an8}I told her she can sell it back,
get her money back.
552
00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:22,900
{\an8}I feel like he
kind of screwed it up in a way.
553
00:22:22,967 --> 00:22:25,033
{\an8}I just want to
be a good uncle all the time.
554
00:22:25,867 --> 00:22:28,433
I love when a website is so meticulous
555
00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,767
and gives us
all the evidence that we need.
556
00:22:30,834 --> 00:22:32,967
- This website had a very...
- Interesting.
557
00:22:33,033 --> 00:22:34,867
- well-planned out, photos...
- A towing company.
558
00:22:34,934 --> 00:22:36,700
Towing company.
Towing and auctioneer house
559
00:22:36,767 --> 00:22:38,233
had every single auction,
560
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:42,200
every car that was sold,
photos, the username of the person...
561
00:22:42,266 --> 00:22:43,500
Who purchased it.
562
00:22:43,567 --> 00:22:45,033
And the price of the vehicle.
563
00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,800
I can't imagine a company like that
564
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,500
doing that voluntarily.
565
00:22:49,567 --> 00:22:53,233
- And it has to be by law to be licensed...
- Yeah.
566
00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:56,033
in order to avoid stolen cars being...
567
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:57,433
- Auctioneered.
- Auctioned off.
568
00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,367
- Mm-hmm.
- Has to be a very smart
569
00:22:59,433 --> 00:23:01,133
Yeah. Good way to track the evidence.
570
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,633
- That was impressive.
- Yeah.
571
00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:03,734
- Thank you.
- Of course.
572
00:23:05,433 --> 00:23:07,266
Are you having a family dispute?
573
00:23:07,333 --> 00:23:09,433
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574
00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:12,033
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