1 00:00:00,133 --> 00:00:01,867 {\an8}- You're a musician. - That is correct. 2 00:00:01,934 --> 00:00:04,400 You make music videos. 3 00:00:04,467 --> 00:00:06,033 Yes, I have a video production company. 4 00:00:06,100 --> 00:00:08,367 Do you advertise making videos? 5 00:00:08,433 --> 00:00:11,700 Absolutely not. I haven't done a music video in almost ten years. 6 00:00:11,767 --> 00:00:14,200 I still don't understand how you make a living. 7 00:00:15,233 --> 00:00:17,900 This is Judy Justice. 8 00:00:34,834 --> 00:00:38,934 {\an8}Edmond Haye is suing videographer, Ramsey Hill, 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,633 {\an8}for breach of contract. 10 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:43,333 Court, come to order. All rise. 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,200 Have a seat, please. 12 00:00:45,266 --> 00:00:48,367 {\an8}Hello, Judge. Case #2057, Haye versus Hill. 13 00:00:48,433 --> 00:00:50,166 {\an8}- Thank you. - You're welcome. 14 00:00:50,233 --> 00:00:52,133 Mr. Haye, you're a musician. 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,600 I'm a songwriter and I sing song. I don't play the instrument, Your Honor. 16 00:00:57,667 --> 00:00:59,066 That's music. 17 00:00:59,133 --> 00:01:00,133 Yes, ma'am. 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,900 Mr. Hill, you make music videos. 19 00:01:02,967 --> 00:01:04,700 Yes, I have a video production company. 20 00:01:04,767 --> 00:01:05,834 For how long, sir? 21 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:07,033 Since 2006. 22 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:08,300 You have employees? 23 00:01:08,367 --> 00:01:09,233 No. 24 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:10,667 - Just you. - Yes, ma'am. 25 00:01:10,734 --> 00:01:12,266 Do you have a place of business? 26 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:13,567 Yes, I work at my home. 27 00:01:13,633 --> 00:01:15,667 - So, your place of business... - Is the residence. 28 00:01:15,734 --> 00:01:17,467 You have a studio in the residence? 29 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:18,467 No, we do not. 30 00:01:18,533 --> 00:01:20,934 Where do you record this music? 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,767 Most of the time we do it on location, 32 00:01:22,834 --> 00:01:25,533 but I haven't done a music video in almost ten years. 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,433 When you say you have a video business, you haven't done music videos. 34 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:29,433 Right, yes. 35 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:30,934 You have done what kind of videos? 36 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,533 Well, we've done a small film. 37 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,200 We have a 3D full-length original animation that we do. 38 00:01:36,266 --> 00:01:39,233 We also have a network that we show podcasts on. 39 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,166 We have a health and fitness show. 40 00:01:41,233 --> 00:01:44,734 {\an8}And we was working on a reality TV show and an entertainment news show. 41 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,900 I still don't understand how you make a living. 42 00:01:46,967 --> 00:01:50,367 Working on, you know, thinking about, being in this business myself, 43 00:01:50,433 --> 00:01:54,100 that doesn't produce any income. How do you earn a regular income? 44 00:01:54,166 --> 00:01:55,900 Oh, I have a regular nine-to-five job. 45 00:01:55,967 --> 00:01:57,700 Oh, okay, now that's where we go. 46 00:01:57,767 --> 00:02:00,100 - Yeah. - So, your nine-to-five job is what? 47 00:02:00,166 --> 00:02:01,734 Right now, I'm an insurance agent. 48 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,233 Do you advertise making videos? 49 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:07,233 Absolutely not. The only reason I did this was as a favor... 50 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:11,333 Just... Well, you didn't do it for a favor because you were charging him. 51 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,633 No, the only reason I accepted to do the video, 52 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:17,900 was because a friend asked me to meet with him. 53 00:02:17,967 --> 00:02:20,934 I understand that. But you weren't doing him a favor, 54 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,367 {\an8}because you were charging him. 55 00:02:22,433 --> 00:02:25,266 {\an8}No, I was doing the friend a favor. I wasn't doing him a favor. 56 00:02:25,333 --> 00:02:27,867 Right. 57 00:02:27,934 --> 00:02:29,533 Mr. Hill... 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,233 If somebody says, listen, I have a friend who wants to make a video. 59 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:36,200 I know you've got a set up in your house where you could do that, 60 00:02:36,266 --> 00:02:39,433 or you do it on location. Would you like to be introduced to him? 61 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,967 And you say, sure. That doesn't mean you're doing him a favor. 62 00:02:43,033 --> 00:02:47,033 So, you haven't made a music video in ten years, you're an insurance agent. 63 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:50,033 And you met with Mr. Haye on what date? 64 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:52,467 I'm not really sure... - On what date, Mr. Haye? 65 00:02:52,533 --> 00:02:56,734 {\an8}We met sometime in early April, late March. 66 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,367 {\an8}- Did you have a written contract? - Yes, ma'am. 67 00:02:59,433 --> 00:03:01,633 And that was to make certain videos. 68 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:03,934 I'd like to see the written contract, please. 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,166 This lawsuit seeks a refund of the money that you gave to him 70 00:03:07,233 --> 00:03:11,033 because the entire contract was not fulfilled. That's what the case is about. 71 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:12,066 That is correct. 72 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:19,100 Okay. So, there is a full and complete agreement. 73 00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:21,667 Is this the only agreement there was in writing? 74 00:03:21,734 --> 00:03:23,934 - That's the one for that one. - That's the one for what... 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,300 For that particular item. There's another one here. 76 00:03:26,367 --> 00:03:30,100 Well, that's what I wanted to know. There's one to produce three videos. 77 00:03:30,166 --> 00:03:31,500 - That is correct. - Okay. 78 00:03:31,567 --> 00:03:33,400 Is there another written contract? 79 00:03:33,467 --> 00:03:34,867 He said this is not a contract. 80 00:03:34,934 --> 00:03:37,834 Well, but I'm asking you. Is there another written contract 81 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:41,333 that you're relying on, because he was supposed to make three videos. 82 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,000 And the cost of the three videos was $1,500? 83 00:03:46,066 --> 00:03:47,934 Three thousand dollars. 84 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,033 And then there was an additional agreement... 85 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:56,967 For the live performance, of which he demand $1,500 from me 86 00:03:57,033 --> 00:03:58,734 Okay. Ssh, just a second. 87 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,367 That's not correct. 88 00:04:00,433 --> 00:04:04,800 Just a second. So, it is your claim that in addition to the $3,000, 89 00:04:04,867 --> 00:04:08,166 $1,500 of which you paid to him. Correct? 90 00:04:08,233 --> 00:04:09,133 Yes, ma'am. 91 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,867 There was a subsequent contract afterwards for an additional item. 92 00:04:13,934 --> 00:04:15,166 I'd like to see that. 93 00:04:15,233 --> 00:04:17,567 For the live performance on May 1st. 94 00:04:17,633 --> 00:04:21,834 Okay. You wanted to do something live on one of his radio stations or... 95 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:22,767 Mr. Hill... 96 00:04:22,834 --> 00:04:23,867 No, I'm gonna read this. 97 00:04:23,934 --> 00:04:25,066 Okay, ma'am. 98 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:32,133 Okay. Let's deal with the easier one, first. 99 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,200 Did you receive the $1,500 for this contract? 100 00:04:36,266 --> 00:04:37,133 Yes. 101 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,734 And that was for a live performance on one of your outlets. 102 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,834 Right. 103 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:44,333 And that was to take place on May 1st. 104 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,367 May 1st. 105 00:04:45,433 --> 00:04:47,834 And did it, in fact, take place? 106 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:49,000 No. 107 00:04:49,066 --> 00:04:50,667 Did it, in fact, take place? 108 00:04:50,734 --> 00:04:51,800 Not at all. 109 00:04:51,867 --> 00:04:55,333 Well, so then, he gets his $1,500 back. That's one. 110 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,433 Thank you, Your Honor. 111 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:57,967 I'm not asking you anything. 112 00:04:58,033 --> 00:05:01,133 There's nothing else that you have to tell me about that. Right? 113 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,567 {\an8}- Yes. Yes, ma'am. - You paid him $1,500. 114 00:05:03,633 --> 00:05:07,767 {\an8}You didn't do a live performance, so you get your $1,500 back. 115 00:05:07,834 --> 00:05:08,767 Yes, ma'am. 116 00:05:08,834 --> 00:05:14,734 Now, with regard to the three videos. You've given him a total now of $3,000? 117 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,333 Fifteen hundred, Your Honor. 118 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,100 How much did you pay him on this? 119 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:19,567 - For the videos? - Yes. 120 00:05:19,633 --> 00:05:22,734 I gave him $500 up front, to start off on that project. 121 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,133 And then... That's on the 21st. And then, I gave him $1,000 122 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,633 by the 27th, I think, for the three videos, that's $1,500. 123 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:36,900 So, you gave him... The three videos were supposed to be $3,000. 124 00:05:36,967 --> 00:05:38,700 And then, you gave him $1,500. 125 00:05:38,767 --> 00:05:39,734 Yes, ma'am. 126 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,767 Okay. How many videos were produced for you? 127 00:05:42,834 --> 00:05:43,700 One. 128 00:05:43,767 --> 00:05:48,867 Is it accurate that one video was produced for Mr. Haye? 129 00:05:48,934 --> 00:05:49,867 Yes. 130 00:05:49,934 --> 00:05:51,834 And it was done on a particular date. 131 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:53,000 Right. 132 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:55,033 - And you gave him that video. - Yes. 133 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:57,200 On what date did you give him that video? 134 00:05:57,266 --> 00:05:59,000 It was a week before the 31st. 135 00:05:59,066 --> 00:06:03,500 Did you do any work on the other two videos? 136 00:06:03,567 --> 00:06:04,567 No. 137 00:06:04,633 --> 00:06:08,767 Okay. Each video was supposed to cost $1,000. 138 00:06:08,834 --> 00:06:09,767 Yes. 139 00:06:09,834 --> 00:06:10,900 Dollars. 140 00:06:13,066 --> 00:06:14,967 And you received one video. 141 00:06:15,033 --> 00:06:15,967 Yes, ma'am. 142 00:06:16,033 --> 00:06:20,133 And you paid him $1,500, so far, as down payment on three. 143 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,734 So, you have $1,500 that you believe is coming back to you 144 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,633 from that amount of money, 145 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:29,800 in addition to the $1,500 that I've already given you. 146 00:06:29,867 --> 00:06:32,533 No, the $1,500 covered the first video. 147 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,266 It wasn't a breakdown like he's trying to make it, into three videos. 148 00:06:36,333 --> 00:06:41,367 {\an8}No, the $1,500 was the cost, was the full cost for the first video. 149 00:06:41,433 --> 00:06:43,033 Does it say that in here? 150 00:06:46,967 --> 00:06:49,000 - He's not giving you more money back. - No. 151 00:06:49,066 --> 00:06:51,400 He's not giving you more money than you gave him. 152 00:06:51,467 --> 00:06:52,967 Do you understand? He's giving... 153 00:06:53,033 --> 00:06:54,533 Your Honor, may I say this, please? 154 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,200 You can say whatever you want to say. 155 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:58,233 And later today... 156 00:06:58,300 --> 00:07:02,600 Well, you have a defense for not paying rent for those three months, 157 00:07:02,667 --> 00:07:05,533 which you clearly occupied her premises. 158 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,967 Who wants to tell me why you didn't pay rent? 159 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,633 {\an8}Edmond Haye claims videographer, Ramsey Hill, 160 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:25,000 breached their music video contract. 161 00:07:25,066 --> 00:07:30,233 Kevin, would you please ask Mr. Hill to show me where, in this contract, 162 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:35,633 and I may have missed it, that $3,000 was to be paid for three videos, 163 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:36,567 Right. 164 00:07:36,633 --> 00:07:39,967 but the first one cost half, cost $1,500. 165 00:07:40,033 --> 00:07:44,433 All I want you to do is to show me, in that contract, where it says that. 166 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:49,266 If it says that, then Mr. Haye gets back the $1,500 167 00:07:49,333 --> 00:07:51,467 from live music performance that... 168 00:07:51,533 --> 00:07:54,233 The music video production one, $1,500. 169 00:07:54,300 --> 00:07:56,333 Just a second. Can I see it, please? 170 00:08:04,333 --> 00:08:08,200 Yes, it does. Mr. Haye, that's exactly what it says. 171 00:08:08,266 --> 00:08:11,967 It says music video, the first production is $1,500. 172 00:08:12,033 --> 00:08:13,033 Okay, ma'am. 173 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:15,266 And you got one produced video. Correct? 174 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:16,367 Correct, ma'am. 175 00:08:16,433 --> 00:08:19,066 Well. And you're absolutely right. What? 176 00:08:19,133 --> 00:08:22,934 So, the reason why I'm suing for the extra $1,000, Your Honor, 177 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,166 is for the live performance that he didn't perform. 178 00:08:26,233 --> 00:08:28,066 I had to hire two other persons... 179 00:08:28,133 --> 00:08:30,500 That's not his problem. He didn't perfom... 180 00:08:30,567 --> 00:08:32,433 He didn't do the live performance. 181 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,500 - You're getting your money back. - First of all... 182 00:08:34,567 --> 00:08:36,266 He's not giving you more money back. 183 00:08:36,333 --> 00:08:38,934 He's not giving you more money than you gave him. 184 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,300 - Do you understand? - Your Honor. Your Honor. 185 00:08:41,367 --> 00:08:42,934 May I say this, please? 186 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,133 You can say whatever you want to say. 187 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,333 He's not paying for you to do another live performance with other people. 188 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,200 He didn't perform pursuant to the contract. 189 00:08:53,266 --> 00:08:57,633 And you're getting your money back because he didn't perform that contract. 190 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:01,500 With regard to this contract, he performed pursuant to this contract. 191 00:09:01,567 --> 00:09:03,433 You get nothing. It's easy. 192 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:06,367 For the music, correct? For the videos, correct? 193 00:09:06,433 --> 00:09:09,033 For the videos. He produced one, and one was $1,500. 194 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:10,567 That's what this contract says. 195 00:09:10,633 --> 00:09:12,967 The contract is about making three videos, Your Honor. 196 00:09:13,033 --> 00:09:15,133 If you want to look at it? Do you want to see it? 197 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Have it shown it to you? 198 00:09:16,467 --> 00:09:18,767 No, I'm asking pertaining to what he says. 199 00:09:18,834 --> 00:09:21,567 He says it's pertaining to just one for the $1,500. 200 00:09:21,633 --> 00:09:23,300 It says, it's clear, 201 00:09:23,367 --> 00:09:27,400 "Music video number one production $1,500." 202 00:09:27,467 --> 00:09:29,967 {\an8}Number one, which means, there's two more need to be done. 203 00:09:30,033 --> 00:09:32,066 {\an8}Correct. But the first one... Just a second. 204 00:09:32,133 --> 00:09:34,867 {\an8}The first one was $1,500. He could have very easily said, 205 00:09:34,934 --> 00:09:39,400 Mr. Haye, "production number one, $1,000, production number two..." 206 00:09:39,467 --> 00:09:43,100 He explained it like you just said to me, and he wrote that in words. 207 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:44,033 for that purpose. 208 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:46,633 This is what the court is bound by, sir. 209 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:51,500 Not what he may have explained to you, because you cannot modify, 210 00:09:51,567 --> 00:09:56,266 in the law, a written contract by oral communications 211 00:09:56,333 --> 00:09:58,600 between the parties. It's in writing. 212 00:09:58,667 --> 00:10:02,900 If you wanted him to write "production one, $1,000," 213 00:10:02,967 --> 00:10:05,900 then you would've said write production one, 214 00:10:05,967 --> 00:10:09,734 - that each video was $1,000. - But Your Honor, I... 215 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,600 - This is not an argument, sir. - I'm not arguing, Your Honor. 216 00:10:12,667 --> 00:10:14,066 Good, because that's what it says. 217 00:10:14,133 --> 00:10:16,767 The contract speaks for itself. On the initial contract, 218 00:10:16,834 --> 00:10:20,500 he has to give you a refund of $1,500. On this contract, 219 00:10:20,567 --> 00:10:24,266 he produced number one video for which you paid him $1,500. 220 00:10:24,333 --> 00:10:27,567 That's what the contract calls for. We're done here, thank you very much. 221 00:10:27,633 --> 00:10:29,266 This court is adjourned. 222 00:10:29,333 --> 00:10:30,667 {\an8}Well, it's a fair decision. 223 00:10:30,734 --> 00:10:32,867 {\an8}There was no breaching on my end of the contract. 224 00:10:32,934 --> 00:10:35,834 {\an8}It would never have been any money if he'd have kept things on course. 225 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:39,166 {\an8}How did I breach the contract when I'm here getting money for the contract? 226 00:10:39,233 --> 00:10:41,500 {\an8}I'm not working with anybody like that anymore. 227 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:45,934 You cannot have an oral modification of a written contract. 228 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,400 So, I think it's a good lesson for people signing written contracts, 229 00:10:49,467 --> 00:10:52,166 that if you don't agree, or you have a different understanding 230 00:10:52,233 --> 00:10:54,300 than something that's listed in the contract, 231 00:10:54,367 --> 00:10:57,734 don't let the other person just explain it away in the moment. 232 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,467 Because as we've seen, that doesn't hold up in court. 233 00:11:00,533 --> 00:11:03,033 And your rights are gonna be really limited 234 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:05,767 to what's in that written agreement. So, it's important. 235 00:11:05,834 --> 00:11:07,500 - People should know that. - Yeah. 236 00:11:07,567 --> 00:11:12,233 Case #2053, Johnson versus Blue. All parties, please, come forward. 237 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:16,266 {\an8}Roshell Johnson is suing her sister-in-law, Monique Blue, 238 00:11:16,333 --> 00:11:21,900 {\an8}and her brother, Antonio Blue, for unpaid rent and window blinds. 239 00:11:21,967 --> 00:11:25,233 Miss Johnson, the Defendant is your brother. 240 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:26,166 That is correct. 241 00:11:26,233 --> 00:11:28,233 - And as Co- - Defendant, your brother's wife. 242 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,533 You had a home that was located in what state? 243 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,467 California. 244 00:11:31,533 --> 00:11:35,633 Several years ago, you decided to move out of state. I think, to Arizona? 245 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:36,600 Yes. 246 00:11:36,667 --> 00:11:39,266 And at that time, you discussed with your brother and his wife 247 00:11:39,333 --> 00:11:42,467 renting your home. You entered into a lease with them. 248 00:11:42,533 --> 00:11:44,333 - Was it a two-year lease? - Yes, ma'am. 249 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,166 - And it was a written lease. - Yes. 250 00:11:46,233 --> 00:11:47,900 - Do you have a copy of that lease? - I do. 251 00:11:47,967 --> 00:11:49,800 I'd like to see it, please. 252 00:11:50,734 --> 00:11:53,000 That's the two year, and I also have a six month. 253 00:11:53,066 --> 00:11:55,700 - You want the... Okay. - No. Just the first lease first, 254 00:11:55,767 --> 00:11:59,734 'cause I'm old and I can only absorb a certain amount of facts at one time. 255 00:12:07,834 --> 00:12:12,600 It's a pretty straightforward lease. It's a lease for 24 months, 256 00:12:12,667 --> 00:12:18,066 starting the first of July, 2019 and terminating on July 1st, 2021. 257 00:12:18,133 --> 00:12:21,834 $1,600 a month rent. There's a small security deposit, 258 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:24,433 and all the other terms and conditions are rather standard. 259 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:27,767 Your complaint says that when you went to the state of Arizona, 260 00:12:27,834 --> 00:12:30,467 ultimately, you ascertained that your health coverage, 261 00:12:30,533 --> 00:12:34,333 your lifetime health coverage was not covered in the state of Arizona. 262 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,633 You decided you wanted to move back to California. 263 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:40,066 You don't even have to give a reason why you want to move back to California. 264 00:12:40,133 --> 00:12:45,433 You can move back to California, into your house on July 1, 2021. 265 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:46,734 You understand that. 266 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:47,667 Yes. 267 00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:51,900 Great. And you came back to California on what date? 268 00:12:51,967 --> 00:12:56,667 I don't recall the exact date, but I also extended a six month. 269 00:12:56,734 --> 00:13:00,600 {\an8}I understand. When did you come back to California? In March? 270 00:13:00,667 --> 00:13:02,567 {\an8}That's what you said here, I think, in March. 271 00:13:02,633 --> 00:13:04,200 {\an8}Okay, right now, I don't recall... 272 00:13:04,266 --> 00:13:07,100 {\an8}I think in March of 2022, is when you ultimately came back 273 00:13:07,166 --> 00:13:09,900 because they vacated sometime in the beginning of March. 274 00:13:09,967 --> 00:13:10,834 - Yes. - No. 275 00:13:10,900 --> 00:13:14,467 I came back prior to that. I stayed with my son for a year, until... 276 00:13:14,533 --> 00:13:16,233 - Until the lease was up. - Yes, ma'am. 277 00:13:16,300 --> 00:13:19,100 - Your son lives in California? - Yes, Beaumont, California. 278 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:22,934 Now, I'd like to see the extension of the lease for six months. 279 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,500 Okay, so, you acknowledge, Mr. and Mrs. Blue, 280 00:13:35,567 --> 00:13:38,300 that the six month extension that you both signed, 281 00:13:38,367 --> 00:13:40,967 - terminated on December 31st. - Yes. 282 00:13:41,033 --> 00:13:43,100 {\an8}Did you vacate the house on December 31st? 283 00:13:43,166 --> 00:13:44,633 {\an8}No, we hadn't found a place yet. 284 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:47,066 {\an8}That's not her problem, that would be your problem. 285 00:13:47,133 --> 00:13:50,300 Did she give you permission to stay beyond December 31st? 286 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,066 On what date, sir, did you close on that property? 287 00:13:57,133 --> 00:13:58,600 I can't remember, offhand. 288 00:13:58,667 --> 00:14:00,667 We're not talking about so long ago. 289 00:14:00,734 --> 00:14:04,300 February 7th is listed as the closing date. 290 00:14:04,367 --> 00:14:06,133 That sound familiar? That's what it says. 291 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,066 Yes. 292 00:14:07,133 --> 00:14:09,300 Well then, you had three weeks to move in. 293 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:24,800 {\an8}Roshell Johnson claims her sister-in-law, Monique Blue, 294 00:14:24,867 --> 00:14:29,800 {\an8}and her brother, Antonio Blue, owe for unpaid rent and window blinds. 295 00:14:29,867 --> 00:14:34,400 Monique and Antonio are countersuing for harassment and invasion of privacy. 296 00:14:34,467 --> 00:14:38,400 Okay. Did she give you permission to stay beyond December 31st? 297 00:14:38,467 --> 00:14:39,467 No. 298 00:14:39,533 --> 00:14:43,100 So, you stayed beyond December 31st. Were you there in January? 299 00:14:43,166 --> 00:14:44,033 Mm-hmm. 300 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:45,600 - Uh-huh is not an answer. - Yes. 301 00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:47,633 - Were you there in February? - Yes. 302 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:49,934 - Were you there on March 1st? - Yes. 303 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,567 - On March 2nd? - Yes. 304 00:14:51,633 --> 00:14:53,433 - On March 3rd? - Yes. 305 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:55,233 What day in March did you move out? 306 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:56,166 March 5th. 307 00:14:56,233 --> 00:14:59,600 Did you pay rent in the month of January? 308 00:14:59,667 --> 00:15:01,367 - No. - February? 309 00:15:01,433 --> 00:15:02,600 - No. - March? 310 00:15:02,667 --> 00:15:04,133 - No. - Okay. 311 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,200 - That's what she's suing for. - Right. 312 00:15:06,266 --> 00:15:10,500 {\an8}Well, you have a defense for not paying rent for those three months, 313 00:15:10,567 --> 00:15:13,533 {\an8}which you clearly occupied her premises. 314 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,767 Who wants to tell me why you didn't pay rent? 315 00:15:15,834 --> 00:15:19,033 She told us in the beginning... We were supposed to buy the house. 316 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:23,734 We did numerous renovations to her house, we cleaned it up. 317 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:28,333 And when we first moved in, July 1st, it wasn't move-in ready. 318 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,800 I don't care. Not only did you live there, 319 00:15:30,867 --> 00:15:33,266 you executed a second lease for another six months. 320 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:38,333 You lived there from the beginning of the lease up until March 5th. 321 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,300 Which is three months beyond when you were supposed to be there. 322 00:15:42,367 --> 00:15:45,900 I'm waiting for a defense for not paying rent. 323 00:15:45,967 --> 00:15:51,433 For July, 2019, when we first moved in, the house was hideous. 324 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:55,467 She had stuff in every room. We weren't able to move our stuff in. 325 00:15:55,533 --> 00:15:58,433 - Did you live there? - Yes, we had nowhere else to go. 326 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:02,700 I don't care. You had a choice. If the house wasn't in move-in condition, 327 00:16:02,767 --> 00:16:05,600 you break your lease, but you don't say at the end of the lease, 328 00:16:05,667 --> 00:16:08,400 by the way, when we were there two-and-a-half years ago, 329 00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:12,266 {\an8}the house wasn't ready for us to move in, it wasn't in condition that we like. 330 00:16:12,333 --> 00:16:14,934 {\an8}We lived there anyway. So, that's not an excuse 331 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,333 {\an8}for not paying rent at the other end. Anything else? 332 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,734 Yes. She offered to give us the last month rent that we were there for free. 333 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,600 - The last month? - Right, and I have the papers. 334 00:16:26,667 --> 00:16:29,700 I'd like to take a look at that. But you owe three months. 335 00:16:29,767 --> 00:16:31,433 Three months? We moved out March fifth. 336 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:34,633 I don't care, you were there March first. That's the month. 337 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:35,567 Okay. 338 00:16:35,633 --> 00:16:39,200 Did you indicate to them that you would give them a month off the rent? 339 00:16:39,266 --> 00:16:41,066 - No, ma'am. - She says that you did. 340 00:16:41,133 --> 00:16:44,100 - I would like to see her evidence... - No-no, ssh! 341 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:56,767 No, she agreed to waive the final month's rent 342 00:16:56,834 --> 00:17:01,467 for the period of April 1st, 2022 343 00:17:01,533 --> 00:17:06,367 to May 2nd, 2022. You were gone in March. 344 00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:07,300 Right. 345 00:17:07,367 --> 00:17:12,500 And your lease, for some reason, she agreed to waive rent 346 00:17:12,567 --> 00:17:16,867 for a month that you weren't there. She didn't waive January, February or March. 347 00:17:16,934 --> 00:17:21,533 She agreed to waive it April 1, 2022 to May 2, 2022. 348 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,834 That's no evidence that she waived any rent. 349 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:27,300 We moved out on March 5th, why do we still owe her for March? 350 00:17:27,367 --> 00:17:28,800 Because you were there in March. 351 00:17:28,867 --> 00:17:29,800 Okay. 352 00:17:29,867 --> 00:17:33,500 {\an8}If she was using the premises as a rental premises, 353 00:17:33,567 --> 00:17:36,967 {\an8}and you were leaving at the end of February, 354 00:17:37,033 --> 00:17:42,867 then she would have been able to rent her premises beginning March 1st. 355 00:17:42,934 --> 00:17:47,100 You don't move out until March 5th, the beginning of March, 356 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:50,166 that means she needs a couple of days, or any landlord would need 357 00:17:50,233 --> 00:17:52,500 a couple of days to put the place in order and re-rent it. 358 00:17:52,567 --> 00:17:55,166 They wouldn't be able to re-rent until April. So you were there. 359 00:17:55,233 --> 00:17:59,133 Is there any reason you stayed until March 5th... Just a second. 360 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,000 You didn't let me finish the question. Is there any reason why 361 00:18:02,066 --> 00:18:06,934 you didn't move out the last day in February and instead stayed into March? 362 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,734 'Cause our house wasn't ready yet. 363 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,266 What do you mean, it wasn't ready? 364 00:18:10,333 --> 00:18:12,200 It wasn't ready to move in there yet. 365 00:18:12,266 --> 00:18:13,934 What was wrong with it? Where did you move? 366 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,233 Victorville, California. 367 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:16,533 To what kind of property? 368 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,100 We bought a house. 369 00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:19,767 Okay. When did you buy the house? 370 00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:22,033 It closed January something. 371 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:23,900 So, you bought the house in January. 372 00:18:23,967 --> 00:18:26,467 When you inspected the house that you bought, 373 00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:28,400 did you buy it furnished or unfurnished? 374 00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:29,400 Unfurnished. 375 00:18:29,467 --> 00:18:31,800 Did you have furniture in the Plaintiff's house? 376 00:18:31,867 --> 00:18:32,734 Yes. 377 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,900 You'll give her the address so she can check. 378 00:18:34,967 --> 00:18:36,300 - Yes. - Great. 379 00:18:36,367 --> 00:18:38,633 Sarah, just look it up for me, please? 380 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:41,800 On what date did you close on that property? 381 00:18:41,867 --> 00:18:43,133 February? 382 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,367 No, don't... 383 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:48,233 On what date, sir, did you close on that property? 384 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:50,066 {\an8}It's probably in the record. 385 00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:51,567 {\an8}I can't remember offhand. 386 00:18:51,633 --> 00:18:53,767 We're not talking about so long ago. 387 00:18:53,834 --> 00:18:54,700 Is there an address? 388 00:18:54,767 --> 00:18:58,133 February 7th is listed as the closing date. 389 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,266 Two-seven. So, the house became yours on February 7th. 390 00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:04,033 That sound familiar? That's what it says. 391 00:19:04,100 --> 00:19:04,967 Yes. 392 00:19:05,033 --> 00:19:08,467 Well then, you had three weeks to move in, to get it ready. 393 00:19:08,533 --> 00:19:11,066 - Yeah. Mm-hmm. - Okay. 394 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:15,200 All right, fine. So, you owe her three months rent at $1,600 a month. 395 00:19:15,266 --> 00:19:17,600 What about the renovations we did to her house? 396 00:19:17,667 --> 00:19:19,266 Who cares? 397 00:19:19,333 --> 00:19:23,734 I live in a place for a couple of years and I make changes to the place 398 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,834 that I find make it more comfortable. There's nothing in this lease agreement 399 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:31,300 that says that she has to reimburse you for things that you did. 400 00:19:31,367 --> 00:19:35,066 And this is not a rent-to-buy agreement, this is a straight tenancy agreement. 401 00:19:35,133 --> 00:19:36,934 We were supposed to buy her house. 402 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,033 There are agreements that are rent-to-buy, that list what the rental is, 403 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:44,533 and what the ultimate purchase price will be, 404 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,533 and whether or not you can deduct the rent that you've paid, 405 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,033 or a percentage of it from the total purchase price, 406 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:52,600 or whether you cannot. This is a straight rental agreement. 407 00:19:52,667 --> 00:19:55,967 So, if you made improvements in the house, if you painted it, 408 00:19:56,033 --> 00:19:59,033 if you put in new carpeting to make it more comfortable for yourself, 409 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:02,500 you don't get reimbursed for that because there's nothing in your lease 410 00:20:02,567 --> 00:20:06,934 that requires her to reimburse you for any improvements that you make in the house. 411 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,967 You're bound by the four corners of the contract that you signed. 412 00:20:11,033 --> 00:20:14,100 Well, what about how the conditions that we moved in? 413 00:20:14,166 --> 00:20:17,967 - That... - Well... Yes, by living there 414 00:20:18,033 --> 00:20:21,533 for two-and-a-half years without, I assume, 415 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,400 unless you can show me, without, I assume, 416 00:20:24,467 --> 00:20:27,433 a written complaint to her. Do you have that? 417 00:20:27,500 --> 00:20:29,300 - Do you have a written... - She was... 418 00:20:29,367 --> 00:20:31,667 - No-no-no. I asked you... - I have pictures. 419 00:20:31,734 --> 00:20:34,066 $4,800, judgment for the Plaintiff. We're finished. 420 00:20:34,133 --> 00:20:37,066 Thank you. Your counterclaim's dismissed, it's ridiculous. 421 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:45,166 {\an8}My mother's deceased. It would actually hurt my mother to see us in court today. 422 00:20:45,233 --> 00:20:47,834 {\an8}And that's my only regret, that I had to do that. 423 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:48,834 {\an8}We're done. 424 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:51,000 {\an8}The bottom line is, I am back in my house. 425 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,500 So, I have a thought about that case, because going through college, 426 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:58,867 I think the first time I saw a lease was my sophomore year. 427 00:20:58,934 --> 00:21:02,333 So, when I moved off campus, and my dad, luckily enough, was there 428 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,500 to help me look over it and sort-of teach me what a lease was, 429 00:21:05,567 --> 00:21:09,066 what the different sections meant, what I should really be looking out for. 430 00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:12,300 So, in my mind, it would make sense for colleges to offer 431 00:21:12,367 --> 00:21:15,934 a basic life-skills course to teach young, incoming freshmen 432 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,834 how to read a lease, how to negotiate on your behalf. 433 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:22,133 Did they off that class at all to undergraduates? 434 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,133 It seemed specified to business students or closed off to certain majors. 435 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,934 Just to have some guidance would have been, I think, really helpful. 436 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,166 I think it's a smart idea. 437 00:21:32,700 --> 00:21:36,467 Want justice? 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