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{\an8}You're going through his phone,
you find he's making a date...
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There is an argument...
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'Cause I did not think that
we were ever going to break up...
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[Judy]
The police were called...
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and you told the police
that he didn't live there.
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I think that you were really angry.
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You have to stop being angry.
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It's over.
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[announcer]
This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[announcer] Raheem Henry
is suing his ex-girlfriend,
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{\an8}Erica Christian,
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for personal property and filing
a false restraining order.
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[bailiff]
Court, come to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, everyone.
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{\an8}Case 2052,
Henry vs. Christian.
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- [Judy] Thank you.
- [bailiff] You're welcome.
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Mr. Henry, what you're doing
is suing the defendant
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with whom you had a relationship
for a period of time
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for the return of property that you had in
an apartment that you once shared
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and for filing a false restraining order,
a false police report.
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Yes, Your Honor.
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[Judy] The defendant says that you
never lived with her,
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that you damaged her front door,
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and you filed a restraining order
against her that was false.
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So, Miss Christian,
I think I'm going to start with you.
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Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
According to papers that were filed,
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you and Mr. Henry did in fact
live together for a period of time.
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- Up until...
- October 19th--
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- [Judy] Shh!
- Sorry.
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Up until October 9th of 1921...
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- [Erica] Yes, Your Honor.
- ...Of 2021. 1921. Ugh.
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Oddly, almost the year of my birth.
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[Erica laughing]
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Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy] 2021. When he left.
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- [Erica] Yeah. Without no---
- [Judy] Just a second...
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October of 2021.
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{\an8}Then the information that I have contained
in these papers
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{\an8}indicate that he sort of came begging back
and that was in February.
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- [Erica] Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Of 2022.
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And you took him back.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- And he was living with you.
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You were living in the same apartment
from February of 2022
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until what you say in your answer
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is June of 2022
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when for some reason you were looking
through his phone.
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{\an8}Now, you were looking through his phone
because he was acting weird or whatever.
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{\an8}- [Erica] Yes.
- That's June of 2022.
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You understand where I am going,
Miss Christian, don't you?
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Of course you do.
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So from February of 2022.
February, March, April, May...
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For four and a half months,
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Mr. Henry and you
occupied the same residence.
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- No, ma'am.
- [Judy] Your residence?
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- No, ma'am.
- Well, that's what you say.
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- [Erica] No, ma'am.
- Oh.
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He lived in his own apartment
in Merritt Island.
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- [Judy] Okay.
- When we got back together...
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[Judy]
Here we go.
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"On February 15th, 2022
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he contacted me and we got back together.
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He had his own place
and never lived with me again.
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He would stay over occasionally and bring
a few things to make himself comfortable.
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On June 21st,
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I went through his phone
because he was acting weird."
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Where was he when you went
through his phone?
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[Erica]
He was asleep.
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[Judy]
He was asleep... where?
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In my bed.
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Okay. In the apartment.
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- {\an8}-
- Yes, where I---
- [Judy] Okay, just...
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- {\an8}-
- In the apartment?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Of course "yes, ma'am."
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"And I saw that he was setting up a date
with the mother of his child."
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- [Erica] Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] "I got upset,
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dropped off my son,
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and then came back home
while he was packing.
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He told me he was taking my couch,
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TV, dresser, dining table,
and everything in my apartment."
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So my next question to you is,
who paid for the couch?
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- Me.
- [Judy] I'd like to see a receipt.
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I don't have it.
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- [Judy] Who paid for the couch?
- It was a couple of years ago---
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- [Judy] Shh...
- Sorry.
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Um, my brother, Adonius Glover.
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He's the one
that gave me the furniture.
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{\an8}[Judy]
Just a sec...
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{\an8}He gave me the couch,
the loveseat, the lamp,
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you know, a few other things
listed on that document.
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When did he give them to you?
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He gave it to me before me and Miss
Christian moved into the first apartment.
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[Judy]
So, let's go back.
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Where was the first place
that you lived with the defendant?
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Cocoa, Florida.
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[Judy]
Okay. From when to when?
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From 2020 October to February,
March 2021.
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{\an8}'Cause that is when her lease was up.
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{\an8}[Judy] Were you both on the lease
in that apartment?
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{\an8}No. I wasn't on that lease.
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- Just you?
- Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy] And that's the first place
that you lived together?
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Yes.
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And why did you leave
that place, Mr. Henry?
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[Raheem]
She was relocating to Titusville.
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I helped her move into it,
and I moved in as well.
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- Does that sound familiar to you?
- [Erica] I--
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Don't!
Be very careful what you say to me.
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Because I...
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When I say I read the papers and I have
my own preconceived ideas
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of what this case is about, based upon
50 years' worth of experience,
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be very careful for what you say to me.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Great. Does that sound familiar to you?
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No, ma'am. He is lying.
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[Judy]
He is lying about what?
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[Erica] Adonius did not give him that
furniture. The furniture was given to me.
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- Never was given---
- [Judy] Just a second!
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So we're not talking
about the furniture now.
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We're talking about when
you lived together.
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Okay.
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[Judy] You first lived someplace together
and then moved into another place.
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- [Erica] Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] So that sounds familiar?
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[Erica] Yeah.
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Am I correct that this
is all about furniture?
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- {\an8}-
- No.
- [Judy] Mr. Henry, value of property.
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{\an8}She's not paying for you for property,
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for furniture that was given to you
that was secondhand.
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You have to understand that.
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If I find that it's your furniture,
you're going to go get it.
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- Yes. That's what I was hoping.
- [Judy] Just a second.
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- You're going to go get it.
- Yes.
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If you can establish to me that
it's your furniture, you can keep it.
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You're not a married couple.
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I have a couple of issues with some things
that I think that you did,
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because I actually think
that you were together
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and he was packing his things,
but then the police were called.
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And you told the police that he
didn't live there.
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Isn't that right?
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Yes.
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- Because--
- [Judy] Just a second!
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And that wasn't true.
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[Erica]
It is true.
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[Judy]
Tell me where he was living.
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He was living in Merritt Island.
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Whenever we broke up, in October.
From October to February, we broke up.
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He reached out to me the day
after Valentine's Day. We started talking.
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He was buying me gifts to try
to get back in my good graces.
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He was doing all this extra stuff
to try to get back in my good graces.
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We got back together.
He never did move back in with me.
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He always did live in his apartment
in Merritt Island.
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I work at 6:00 in the morning
till 12:00 pm.
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Sometimes, whenever I didn't
have a babysitter--
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he doesn't have a job--
he would watch my son.
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That's why he had a key. That's why he had
a spend-the-night bag, and all of that.
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He would bring over his cloths,
shoes, PlayStation...
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Anything to make himself comfortable
to stay the night.
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And whenever the police were called, they
made him collect all those belongings
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and leave.
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They escorted him off the property,
told him that he was not allowed back.
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They told me, that I---
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Well, that's because if that's what
happened, that's because they believe you,
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- which I don't.
- [Erica] Okay.
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- They definitely---
- [Judy] That's because
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they believe you and I don't because if
he was trying to back in your graces...
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and he was living in his own space
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and you weren't back together again,
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why in the world were you going
through his phone
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if you were just a casual gal?
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And a casual gal doesn't let
him stay with her son
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because, "Well, he was available and he
wasn't working so he watched my son
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and he stayed over."
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That all sounds like a whole lot of
"Who shot John?"
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{\an8}And it was convenient for you to be able
to say he doesn't live here.
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So all I want to know, Miss Christian,
is this case mostly about furniture.
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Used furniture.
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[Raheem]
I also have a TV there--
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Do you have the receipt for it?
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- Yes, I have a title.
- [Judy] I'd like to see it.
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You have a TV in the house
that belongs to him?
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So, the TV was--
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Just a second!
That's either "yes" or "no."
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No, the TV does not belong to him.
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[Judy]
Who does it belong to?
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The TV was a gift from him to me
that I ended up paying off
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because he told me that when he bought it,
that it was bought "cash."
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Whenever... months later,
I paid the TV off.
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No, you didn't.
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[Judy] Just a... Shh!
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First you're gonna show me
that you paid it off.
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I assume you have proof that
you paid it off?
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I gave him cash for it because I did not
think we were ever going to break up.
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Well, you never thought you were
going to break up?
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I thought he didn't live with you.
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Like--
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[Judy]
Just, I thought he didn't live with you
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You don't buy a TV for somebody
that you don't live with
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that you're not gonna watch all the time.
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I eventually thought we were going
to move into a house together, Your Honor.
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[Raheem] Your Honor?
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[Judy]
Oh, don't tell me what you thought--
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The TV that was bought
was before I even...
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Okay. That's a PlayStation, Nintendo--
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That's property
that is still at the apartment.
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[Judy] Okay. These are things that
you say are yours.
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- Yes.
- [Judy] That you bought and paid for.
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- Yes.
- Okay. All of these receipts?
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All of it. No help--
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Okay. So let's go beyond the point of...
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Now you're back together again,
because that's what I believe.
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He's in bed.
You're going through his phone.
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You find he's making a date with
the mother of his child...
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You get annoyed.
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You take your son to another location,
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because you know
that there's going to be an argument.
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- You come back. There is an argument.
- [Raheem] Yes.
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[Judy] He wants to take stuff... Whatever.
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Police are called.
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You tell the police he doesn't live there,
they escort him out.
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He wants his property now.
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You're not married people.
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Whoever paid for the property
or whoever was the recipient
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of a gift for the property
owns the property.
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That's simple.
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You know, that's what the law is.
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[theme music playing]
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What you want me to believe,
that a police officer saw him
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kick down you door,
go into your apartment,
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take property, and did nothing.
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That's what you want me to believe?
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{\an8}[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[announcer] Raheem Henry claims
his ex-girlfriend, Erica Christian,
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{\an8}owes for personal property.
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Erica is countersuing for door damages
and stolen property.
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Okay. He has a Nintendo,
a PlayStation Sony...
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Your Honor, he collected those whenever--
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[Judy] Just a second. A queen mattress
and foundation.
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We have May of 2022...
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This is a TV.
An LED TV.
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- Yes.
- That was my birthday present.
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[Judy] Nah.
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What?
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Okay. So I have titles to these things.
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Do you have titles or receipts
for any of these things?
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[Erica] I don't have receipts
for any of those things.
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{\an8}He grabbed his PlayStation, his Switch,
and everything whenever he left.
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{\an8}The only thing that is in my apartment is
the TV that he bought me for my birthday.
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May is my birthday.
May 7th is my birthday.
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That was the birthday present
that he bought for me.
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Did you take your Nintendo?
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- No. I haven't had, uh...
- Wow.
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Recently, that was something different.
My storage unit was just broken into.
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This is why I don't have
original documents.
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And she stole more of my property--
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[Judy] I don't know that.
Did you file a police report?
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Yes. Yes, ma'am, I did.
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[Judy] Okay.
Did they ever find any of the property?
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No. Not right now.
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Okay, the couch, whatever other
furniture is there, is how old?
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I mean it used to be "used" furniture,
so it was--
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Yeah. My brother Adonius got it.
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When he paid for it,
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it was like a,
kind of like a bundle deal
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for the apartment,
like a lot of furnishing,
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and I ended up giving him
some money for, you know, looking out.
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- That was two, three years ago?
- [Raheem] Yeah.
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[Judy]
And it was used furniture at the time?
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Yeah, yeah. It was nothing
like brand-new out of the seal.
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How much did you pay for the TV?
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I got taxed on it. I was like at 15,
almost to $2,000.
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'Cause it's a 60" smart TV.
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Okay. So what is it that you want?
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...is my question.
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I want a court order to go get
the rest of my property. I have--
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[Judy] What?
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I have to know what the rest of your
property is. You have the TV...
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The TV, I have asthma medication, I have--
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[Judy] She doesn't...
I want to tell you something.
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She threw out your asthma medication.
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I believe so, too.
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[Judy] Just, she threw out
your asthma medication.
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- [Raheem] Yeah.
- What else?
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[Raheem]
I have crutches, I have, uh--
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[Judy]
You have what?
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{\an8}Crutches for... and certain things.
I have a PlayStation.
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{\an8}You don't, you don't need crutches.
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And the PlayStation you said
was in the storage unit.
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Yeah.
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Well, I'm not interested in
the storage unit. So far I have a TV.
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What else?
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My mattress. My bed, my--
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- [Judy] Yeah, you don't want that.
- The stuff that I had from the apartment.
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- [Judy] You don't want a mattress.
- [laughs]
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- Are you back with this lady now?
- [Raheem] No. No.
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- [Judy] Where are you living?
- [Raheem] I've been living on the streets.
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I've been living out of my car
ever since this has been happening.
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[Judy]
Where are you going to put a mattress?
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I have a storage unit.
I was going to just collect...
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I'm pretty much just trying
to salvage what I can
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because I have things
that are sentimental,
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stuff from my grandmother passing away,
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things that I really can't
put a price tag on.
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I just wanna be able to get a court order
to get the rest of my belongings--
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I don't know what the rest of...
I have a TV...
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You have no place to put a mattress
that's a couple of years old.
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So you really don't need that.
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I mean, I can give you an order
to get your mattress,
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but what are you gonna do with it?
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Just gonna cost you to go get it
and to store it.
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So you really don't need it.
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I don't need it, but I would like
to still get all of my property back.
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Like, stuff that I paid for because
I worked. I worked hard, I--
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I'm giving you your TV back.
You're going to get the TV.
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I haven't figured out what else it is
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that you really want to make
this whole thing worthwhile.
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I'm not giving you any money.
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Do you want the mattress back?
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You paid for it,
you're entitled to it back.
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I can give you an order
for the mattress and the TV.
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Okay. And I also have electronics,
like, um, from games,
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the controllers, just...
so much things that, like--
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TV! Mattress!
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Box spring!
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He's going to come and get it.
With a marshal.
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But he's coming to get it
within five days of today.
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So what if I pull up my bank statements
to show that I gave him cash
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around the same time that whenever it was,
like, pulled up and everything?
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{\an8}Because I did give him cash for the TV,
for the bed, for...
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{\an8}Actually, more than he ever
even put into it...
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[Judy] Let me explain something to you.
Unless you have a check made out to him,
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I have a problem with somebody
who lies to the police.
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- Ma'am, I--
- [Judy] I do.
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I have trouble with somebody who got
very angry because her boyfriend,
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who is living there, watching her son,
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bought a TV, bought a mattress,
bought a box spring,
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bought all of those things and then you
got annoyed that he was involved again
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with his child's mother.
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You dropped off your son someplace else
to come back
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to have a fight with him.
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You did have an argument with him.
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Police were called.
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You said to the police,
"He doesn't live here"!
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You're Honor, he moved out.
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"He doesn't live here."
That's what's here.
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[Raheem]
Your Honor, I never moved out.
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- [Erica] He moved out in October.
- We had a whole business together--
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No, we do not. That business is in my name
and I have the receipts to that too.
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[Judy]
I... You have to understand something.
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I know what happened.
I don't believe you.
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- Ma'am, I'm telling you the truth.
- [Judy] No, you're not.
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You're not telling me the truth
that when the police came, you said,
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- "He doesn't live here."
- [Erica] Yes.
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"He doesn't live here.
Put him outside."
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He took all of his belongings.
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- [Judy] Did he take his--
- October--
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Oh, no.
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May I finish? He took all of his belongs
on October 9th.
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Whenever he left. Without a call, without
a text message. Without anything.
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He broke up with me and left.
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He got back in contact with me
in February.
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Mind you, we never lived together
after that.
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He was just staying over to watch
your son when you got angry in June.
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- Whenever, whenever we--
- [Judy] It was June!
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It was June,
four and a half months later.
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Which he would go back to his apartment.
He would come...
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He never stayed more than
a couple nights consecutively.
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Okay. He's coming to get his TV.
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He's coming to get his mattress
and box spring.
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- [Erica] Can we talk about...
- Do you have a counterclaim?
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...my counterclaim?
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You have a counterclaim for damage
to the front door.
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- [Erica] Yes, ma'am.
- Okay?
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- Damage to the front door.
- He kicked my front door down.
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[Judy]
Okay. When did he do that?
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Um, the day after he was police escorted,
they told him not to come back.
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And the next day he came back
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and kicked my door down,
right in front of the police officers.
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So he came back with a police officer?
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- And kicked my door down--
- [Judy] Just a second.
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He came back with a police officer,
and the policer officer was there
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when he broke into your apartment?
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- Yes, and they were going to take him--
- [Judy] No, no.
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Don't tell me what they were going to do.
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And they did nothing?
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Well, they trespassed him
from my apartment complex--
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[Judy]
I'm asking you...
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What you're telling me is, madam,
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which is why I have problems with you
right from the get-go,
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what you're telling me now is
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he came back to get his property.
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- The next day--
- He didn't come back--
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With a--
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With a police officer.
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- Yes.
- [Judy] And what you're telling me,
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a police officer in what?
You live in Florida?
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- Yes.
- What you want me to believe,
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that a police officer saw him
kick down your door,
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go into your apartment,
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take property, and did nothing.
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That's what you want me to believe?
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He didn't not do anything.
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He was completely confused
on who actually lived--
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[Judy] Don't tell me... You're telling me
a police officer was confused.
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I'm telling you the truth! They were
very confused on who actually lived there.
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- The police officer was my escort.
- Just a second.
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He was, they were trying to figure out
if it was my apartment, his apartment...
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I had to go get my property manager, bring
my lease that only had my name on it...
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[Judy]
You don't understand.
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The last place you lived with him
full-time, your name was on the lease too.
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Only yours.
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- Correct.
- [Judy] And you lived together.
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So now you took a lease,
again just in your name,
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and said, "He's not on the lease,
he doesn't live here."
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- We broke up, though. And he--
- [Judy] Okay. All right.
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He's coming to get his TV.
He's coming to get his mattress...
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- Miss?
- [Erica] Okay.
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I would like to see a police report.
I would like to see--
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[Raheem]
I also have an iPad...
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- Don't. Just a second.
- Okay.
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You're done. You're going to get your TV,
your mattress, and your box spring.
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[theme music playing]
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Unless you have some sort
of a police report for me,
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I don't believe you.
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I think that you were really angry
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and you were dishonest with the police
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and you felt that you were being
taken advantage of.
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[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[Announcer] Raheem Henry has accused
his ex-girlfriend, Erica Christian,
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{\an8}of keeping his personal property.
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Erica claims he broke through her door
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and stole her belongings.
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[Judy] Now...
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[Erica]
Yes, ma'am.
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{\an8}I have, um, my Chromebook,
my iPad, my office supplies...
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{\an8}Things that were stolen from my company
that whenever
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he kicked my door down and took things
out of my apartment that day.
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[Judy] Okay.
Now let's get to the company.
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What kind of work
were you involved with
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when you and the defendant
lived together, Mr. Henry?
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I did all the graphic design.
I made the business cards--
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Just a second.
Were you involved in graphic design?
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Yes, I actually went--
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[Judy]
Just a second.
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- Together?
- No. It was mainly me.
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[Judy] And you did this over a computer?
Over a laptop?
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Over a tablet. Over, um, my iPad.
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So the business supplies
that she is going to tell me about
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- were for the graphic design business?
- Ah, yes.
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Some of the supplies,
but I never stole anything.
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Ah, I just had an iPad that I worked on
and I did graphic design on that was mine.
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I gave her cash for it. She found it on
Amazon for me for a good deal.
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I was able to draw on it.
She's never had access to it.
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It has always been
my Apple ID on it.
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Where is it?
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[Raheem]
I don't know.
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The day when I got... when I got escorted
out, she came out of the apartment.
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I was going in to get the rest of
my belongings and she was saying,
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"I can't find my iPad. You have it."
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And right then and there, I knew
she found it and she took it and hid it.
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So the officer let me go inside
to get my belongings.
462
00:19:11,834 --> 00:19:14,333
{\an8}I looked in the closet
where I had it wrapped up. Gone.
463
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,800
{\an8}I walked outside and was like,
"Erica, where is my iPad?
464
00:19:16,867 --> 00:19:20,000
I paid for that. I do work on that.
That's mine."
465
00:19:20,066 --> 00:19:22,600
She said, "I don't know. It's gone.
You must have it."
466
00:19:22,667 --> 00:19:25,667
Had this whole sob story about it.
So still to this day, I have no idea.
467
00:19:25,734 --> 00:19:27,133
Okay. What else?
468
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,433
[Erica] My iPad that he stole the day
that he broke into my apartment,
469
00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:31,867
my Chromebook that he stole
the day that he broke in--
470
00:19:31,934 --> 00:19:32,800
[Judy]
Your what?
471
00:19:32,867 --> 00:19:35,300
- My Chromebook. My laptop.
- [Judy] What else?
472
00:19:35,367 --> 00:19:37,867
I have my printer that he stole.
473
00:19:37,934 --> 00:19:40,633
It's all right here. Six hundred and...
Do you want me to just pass it to you?
474
00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:42,000
- Did you take a printer?
- [Raheem] I was--
475
00:19:42,066 --> 00:19:43,166
Shut up!
476
00:19:43,233 --> 00:19:44,100
I'm so sorry.
477
00:19:44,166 --> 00:19:46,333
I wasn't able to leave with anything
because they made me
478
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,200
have to go through a civil suit
because she started claiming stuff
479
00:19:49,266 --> 00:19:51,400
and saying it was hers
and it wasn't mine.
480
00:19:51,467 --> 00:19:53,400
So the officer didn't even let me
go back inside the apartment.
481
00:19:53,467 --> 00:19:55,467
[Judy] I want to know...
I want to know,
482
00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:59,500
when you went in, in the presence
of a police officer, whether you
483
00:19:59,567 --> 00:20:01,934
pushed down the door,
kicked down the door, or not.
484
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000
Unless I have a police report, I don't
actually believe that the police--
485
00:20:05,066 --> 00:20:07,333
- He was my escort. I actually met him.
- [Judy] Just a second.
486
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,266
Did you take any electronics
with you when you left?
487
00:20:11,333 --> 00:20:12,967
I didn't leave with anything.
488
00:20:13,033 --> 00:20:15,734
Okay! Don't give me
a whole bunch of papers!
489
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,000
What I would like to see
is a police report.
490
00:20:19,066 --> 00:20:23,800
Or any other documentation
that he took anything the day after
491
00:20:23,867 --> 00:20:27,200
you had him evicted from the apartment
where he was living.
492
00:20:27,266 --> 00:20:29,900
- She didn't even have me evicted--
- [Judy] Shh!
493
00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:31,967
I have the receipts
of the stuff that he stole.
494
00:20:32,033 --> 00:20:33,200
He said he didn't take anything.
495
00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:36,567
He said the police officer who was there
wouldn't let him take a printer.
496
00:20:36,633 --> 00:20:38,633
I mean, those are heavy electronics.
497
00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:41,233
And that was the only other time
he was in the apartment.
498
00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:42,900
- He also checked my car--
- [Judy] Shh!
499
00:20:42,967 --> 00:20:44,367
No, he didn't.
500
00:20:44,433 --> 00:20:47,400
Unless you have some sort
of a police report for me,
501
00:20:47,467 --> 00:20:49,500
Miss Christian, I don't believe you.
502
00:20:49,567 --> 00:20:51,867
I think that you were really angry.
503
00:20:51,934 --> 00:20:55,433
I think that you were really angry
because he left in October.
504
00:20:55,500 --> 00:20:57,600
You took him back in February.
505
00:20:57,667 --> 00:21:00,700
You found out that he was not being
straight upfront with you.
506
00:21:00,767 --> 00:21:05,767
And you were dishonest with the police,
which is all part of being angry,
507
00:21:05,834 --> 00:21:08,367
and felt that you were being
taken advantage of.
508
00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:11,133
According to you,
you were together so much so
509
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,200
that he bought you a television set
a month before you threw him out,
510
00:21:15,266 --> 00:21:17,433
for your birthday,
that cost thousands of dollars.
511
00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:18,700
That's what you just told me.
512
00:21:18,767 --> 00:21:22,900
Ma'am, he bought that TV in February
for me for an early birthday present.
513
00:21:22,967 --> 00:21:24,033
He bought it as an early birthday present.
514
00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:25,533
- Oh, my...
- [Judy] He's coming to get...
515
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,400
Listen to me.
He's coming to get his TV.
516
00:21:27,467 --> 00:21:29,500
He's coming to get his box spring.
He's coming to get his mattress.
517
00:21:29,567 --> 00:21:30,667
It's a court order.
518
00:21:30,734 --> 00:21:33,834
It's a court order with a marshal,
in five days from today.
519
00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:35,300
- Do you understand?
- Yes.
520
00:21:35,367 --> 00:21:37,567
- [Erica] I also have my countersuit.
- Five days from today.
521
00:21:37,633 --> 00:21:38,500
Yeah.
522
00:21:38,567 --> 00:21:41,166
The false police report,
the false injunction...
523
00:21:41,233 --> 00:21:43,266
Everything that he did--
524
00:21:43,333 --> 00:21:44,500
[Judy]
I have to tell you something.
525
00:21:44,567 --> 00:21:48,834
The same way that I'm not entertaining,
because it's over,
526
00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:52,667
this fib that you told to the police
which caused him to be--
527
00:21:52,734 --> 00:21:54,300
- [Erica] Excuse me, Your Honor--
- Don't interrupt me.
528
00:21:54,367 --> 00:21:58,400
I'm not entertaining. You filed
restraining orders against each other?
529
00:21:58,467 --> 00:22:00,233
- She filed--
- [Judy] Just a second!
530
00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:02,867
You filed restraining orders
against each other. Is that right?
531
00:22:02,934 --> 00:22:03,800
Yes, ma'am.
532
00:22:03,867 --> 00:22:05,900
[Judy] Do you have a restraining order
against her?
533
00:22:05,967 --> 00:22:07,800
Yes, but it was dismissed.
534
00:22:07,867 --> 00:22:10,333
I said, do you have one currently?
The answer is "no."
535
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,233
No.
536
00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:12,400
[Judy] Do you have a restraining order
against him?
537
00:22:12,467 --> 00:22:14,200
- No, ma'am.
- [Judy] Ah, good!
538
00:22:14,266 --> 00:22:17,200
It's exactly what I thought.
Because neither one of you...
539
00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:20,600
You have to say "goodbye."
You have to stop being angry.
540
00:22:20,667 --> 00:22:22,166
But you have to give him back
his property.
541
00:22:22,233 --> 00:22:25,200
- I only wanted the restraining order--
- TV, mattress, box spring.
542
00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:26,400
Five days from today.
543
00:22:26,467 --> 00:22:27,567
Your counterclaim is dismissed.
544
00:22:27,633 --> 00:22:29,467
We're finished with this case.
Thank you very much.
545
00:22:29,533 --> 00:22:32,233
[bailiff]
This court is adjourned.
546
00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:34,533
{\an8}I think that it was unfair.
547
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,700
{\an8}I'm pretty much just happy
it's all over.
548
00:22:36,767 --> 00:22:40,166
{\an8}Broke up with me without even
a text message, a phone call, nothing.
549
00:22:40,233 --> 00:22:41,500
{\an8}She just took it and ran with it
550
00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:43,700
{\an8}and she decided she was going
to take matters into her own hands
551
00:22:43,767 --> 00:22:44,700
{\an8}and be spiteful.
552
00:22:44,767 --> 00:22:47,367
{\an8}Very single.
No more relationships for a while.
553
00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:49,433
{\an8}It's definitely time to move forward
and move past it.
554
00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:51,367
{\an8}A good one is out there,
but I have not found him yet.
555
00:22:51,433 --> 00:22:54,734
{\an8}It's just nice that at least it's over.
It's a weight lifted off my shoulders.
556
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,967
I sort of felt sorry for him.
557
00:22:58,033 --> 00:23:01,000
- He probably deserved some of it.
- [agreeing chuckle]
558
00:23:01,066 --> 00:23:03,800
But you can't lie to the police.
559
00:23:03,867 --> 00:23:06,100
I think she was being vindictive
by saying, "He doesn't live here.
560
00:23:06,166 --> 00:23:07,200
He doesn't live here."
561
00:23:07,266 --> 00:23:09,266
Sorta kinda lives here,
if you're being truthful.
562
00:23:09,333 --> 00:23:12,934
But it's always a good idea to have
your name on the lease if you can
563
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,066
because that's all the officer has
to look at in a squabble
564
00:23:16,133 --> 00:23:19,166
- like what happened between them.
- Yeah. It's like...
565
00:23:19,233 --> 00:23:20,467
It's almost between a rock
and hard place.
566
00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:22,133
- Yeah.
- If your name is not on the lease,
567
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,166
- you're not responsible for the rent.
- Yep.
568
00:23:24,233 --> 00:23:29,533
And I've usually suggested that
when you're living together,
569
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,433
you don't have both people's name
on the lease.
570
00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:34,967
Because,
in the event that you separate,
571
00:23:35,033 --> 00:23:36,700
who's gonna stay in the apartment?
572
00:23:36,767 --> 00:23:40,900
And if you're the one who leaves,
your former partner may say to you,
573
00:23:40,967 --> 00:23:43,834
"Don't worry, you leave.
I'll take over the rent."
574
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,100
- But if they don't...
- You're still responsible.
575
00:23:45,166 --> 00:23:47,533
Your still on the hook
with the landlord.
576
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,367
- So--
- There's pros and cons to both.
577
00:23:49,433 --> 00:23:52,200
- To both. But it's an exit strategy.
- Yeah.
578
00:23:52,266 --> 00:23:53,967
And people have to be smart enough.
579
00:23:54,033 --> 00:23:56,800
You see, he had an exit strategy.
His name wasn't on the lease.
580
00:23:56,867 --> 00:23:58,734
- Yeah.
- But then, he needed it...
581
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,033
- Got caught.
- But I think she was being dishonest.
582
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:03,900
And I think his brother did in fact
give him some old furniture.
583
00:24:03,967 --> 00:24:06,867
Who care about that?
It's from decades ago.
584
00:24:06,934 --> 00:24:09,100
If you only stay a few nights,
you're not bringing your furniture.
585
00:24:09,166 --> 00:24:10,900
Your couch, your TV, yeah. Anyway...
586
00:24:10,967 --> 00:24:13,100
They just have to get over it and move on.
587
00:24:13,166 --> 00:24:14,600
- Put a period. Move on,
- Now we put a period.
588
00:24:14,667 --> 00:24:16,500
Now he has his TV,
and he has his mattress...
589
00:24:16,567 --> 00:24:17,467
if he wants it.
590
00:24:17,533 --> 00:24:19,100
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591
00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:20,266
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592
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593
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