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How many units did they paint for you?
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They didn't finish any of the units.
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That's incorrect, Your Honor.
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Did you pay them any money for painting?
Yes or no?
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No.
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He told me that the job
did not have to be perfect.
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A nine-year-old can smear paint
on a wall.
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Get somebody who knows what they're doing.
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This is Judy Justice.
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Previously on Judy Justice...
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{\an8}You were looking for a job.
And what were you supposed to do?
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{\an8}Bartend, close, open and
run the concession stand.
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{\an8}I want you to do a step-by-step
why you contacted the authorities.
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{\an8}Chris was still giving out free alcohol
to people. Pouring it.
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{\an8}Wasn't even checking people's IDs.
So, I called the ABC
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{\an8}and I said I think there's suspicion
that he's giving minors alcohol.
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{\an8}And that was very distressing to you.
So distressing that you said to him,
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{\an8}Do you have any other work for us?
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{\an8}Yes.
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{\an8}And did he say I have an apartment
complex that needs painting?
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{\an8}Yes.
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{\an8}And it was after the painting kerfuffle
that you called Alcohol Beverage.
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{\an8}So, we shouldn't've, we shouldn't've
reported it at all?
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{\an8}No, I'm trying to get to your motive, sir.
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And now, the conclusion...
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{\an8}Noah Joyner and Harland Hendrickson
have accused their former employer,
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{\an8}Christopher Rix, of vandalizing Noah's car
and refusing to pay wages.
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Christopher claims they
slandered his business.
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Now, you have photographs of the place
before you started painting
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and afterwards?
Do you have any photographs?
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Absolutely.
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I'd like to see them.
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It's just the paint on the floor.
The paint is...
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- Just a second.
- Okay.
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I-I have eyes, I can look at the pictures.
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So, the top ones are how they are
before we paint them.
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That's before they're painted, Your Honor.
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These are your photographs?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- You painted the floor?
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No, ma'am. We had to declutter
a couple of units that had stuff...
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- One unit.
- Ssh. Don't speak.
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You had to, what you call, declutter and
you had to sweep it up
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before you started painting.
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It was worse than that, Your Honor.
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- And did you?
- Yes, ma'am.
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And is this a picture of what you allege
it looked like?
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All of the units had stuff in them
just like that, yes, ma'am.
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Okay. And this is the floor
that you painted?
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- Yes.
- Is that the floor that they painted?
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One of the three.
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Okay. So, they painted the floors.
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Did you paint anything else,
other than the floors?
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We painted the walls.
Sorry, it was the walls.
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Okay.
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They're brand new flooring...
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- Ssh. Just a second.
- It didn't have to be perfect.
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You didn't put these floors in, did you?
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- I did.
- I thought they painted them.
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{\an8}No-no. They were to do touch-up only.
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{\an8}And there were... There was one unit
that needed to be finalized.
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And that was the one that you saw
that was bad.
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We were having to prime and paint...
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Ssh! I told you, don't speak when he is.
I'll come back to you.
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The floors are brand new.
And like I said,
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I provided drop cloths and such,
they didn't use them.
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That's not true, Your Honor.
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Ssh! What is this?
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That's the one unit that was not,
that wasn't completely emptied out.
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Okay. This one.
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Yeah, there was one single unit.
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- And this one.
- That's the same unit.
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- And this.
- Same unit.
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Okay. And the rest of them
were cleaned out?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Is that correct?
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All new flooring...
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{\an8}The pictures of the... Yes.
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The pictures of the mess
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{\an8}- are all one unit, of the 20.
- One unit. Yes, ma'am.
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Okay. And how many units
did they paint for you, Mr. Rix?
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{\an8}They didn't finish any of the units.
They were in three units, Your Honor.
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- Okay. Ssh.
- And three units have damage.
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Okay. What you're telling me is
they didn't do a good job in three units.
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Correct.
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- Okay. Well, that, sir...
- They didn't finish it at all.
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I'd like to see the photographs
of what they didn't finish.
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The paper copies? There you go.
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And there's... There should be one
that's a door that's not even painted.
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You can see it's two-tone.
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And the flooring is where they, I guess,
scraped the floor.
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Okay. This is the same picture.
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As this.
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No, that's different. I can
show you on my phone, too, if you'd like.
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- They're different. It-
- It's like in one of the areas they tried to use a tool
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to scrape paint off in different areas
and that's what was left.
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He didn't provide me with any tools.
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That's not true. There was no tools
provided for us at all.
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- Just a... I didn't ask you anything.
- Sorry.
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Is what you're saying to me, sir,
that the reason you didn't...
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And I assume you weren't paid
for this work. Is that correct?
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- No, Your Honor.
- Not even for cleaning out that unit.
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Ssh. Weren't paid. Now,
I assume, Mr. Rix,
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{\an8}that you didn't pay them because you
thought that they did a poor job.
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{\an8}No, ma'am, that's not accurate.
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{\an8}- Why didn't you pay them?
- They didn't do the job.
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They worked there at some point.
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I agreed with Harland, only,
to pay him $3,000.
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Harland, that was you.
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- Yes.
- That's you.
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You agreed with Harland...
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- For that job...
- Yes.
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- To do it for $3,000.
- Your Honor, that's incorrect.
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You're almost finished.
Do you understand? You're almost done.
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One, two, three warnings,
then I'm finished with you.
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And it wouldn't bother me at all.
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I have to tell you,
it wouldn't bother me at all.
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Now, what arrangement did you make
as far as payment is concerned?
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On June...
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{\an8}Mr. Hendrickson
started the job first on June 23rd.
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{\an8}He was to meet me, and he did.
He was late.
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He was supposed to meet me early.
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I showed him the whole scope
of the project
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'cause he hadn't been there and
what I wanted done, what I expected.
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And we agreed on a price of $3,000.
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- That's incorrect, Your Honor.
- After they got halfway done,
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which was ten units,
I would pay him $1,500.
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And then, when they were complete,
I would pay the entire $3,000.
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They didn't get past three, Your Honor.
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Three of the twenty?
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Yes, ma'am, and they didn't finish
any of those at all.
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Okay. What I'm saying to you, Mr. Rix,
you took one guy...
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Right.
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Who you didn't know
from a hole in the wall.
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You took a second guy,
who you knew was there,
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because I believe that you knew
he was there painting with Mr. Joyner.
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Right. Mr. Hendrickson
actually fired him twice.
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You can see in text messages
if you need to see that.
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You mean, Mr. Hendrickson
fired Mr. Joyner?
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He says right here...
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- That's correct, Your Honor.
- Just a second.
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Let me just pull up the text messages.
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But you do know that Mr. Joyner was there.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Okay.
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It was a group.
They decided to do a group thing.
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This is the...
Right here, it says, "never mind,
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- Noah's not gonna help me anymore.
- No-no, I can read.
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And then, there's an additional,
where he says again,
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that I'm gonna let Noah have
a couple of days off.
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Just a second. Mr. Hendrickson,
so, on the 29th,
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you indicated to Mr. Rix that Noah,
that would be you,
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is not going to be helping me anymore.
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Yes.
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Yes. And you want to tell me why?
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- Noah and I had...
- No, look at me.
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{\an8}Noah and I had an argument at
the painting job because we were...
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{\an8}Tell me about
the argument, sir. When did you have it?
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We were arguing about the detail
that we were putting into our work.
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I walked in and Noah was
paying a lot of attention to detail.
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And Chris told me that the job
did not have to be perfect,
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he just wanted it to be done.
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- So, Noah was trying to be careful.
- Yes.
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And you said,
you don't have to be so careful.
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- Yes, Your Honor.
- Is that what it boils down to?
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- Yes, Your Honor.
- And that was on the 29th.
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Yes, correct.
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So, after that, you said
he's not gonna work for you anymore.
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- Correct.
- Now, so,
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I gather from that statement
that since you were working there
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since the 23rd, you didn't feel
you had to be so careful to detail.
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That isn't correct.
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I mean, that would follow
from what you just said to me.
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If Noah wanted to be
more careful to detail,
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and you said, you don't have to be
so careful to detail,
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It doesn't have to be perfect. Right?
And goodbye, which is what this says.
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So, I have to assume,
conjure up in my mind,
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that it doesn't have to be perfect,
it doesn't have to be such a great job.
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It can be, as my great-grandmother
used to say,
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that there's a difference between
a smearer and a painter.
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That's right.
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Now, I don't know who would understand
that except another Jewish grandmother.
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But you understand the connotation.
You can smear paint,
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I have a nine-year-old granddaughter
who can smear paint on a wall.
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{\an8}But if I want something professionally
done, I try to get a painter.
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{\an8}I told Chris I was not a professional.
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Just a second. You see,
that's my problem with Mr. Rix.
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If you want something done right,
get a man, not a boy.
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Tell me the worst thing he told you to do.
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I don't know what you're wanting from me.
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What I want you to do is to tell me
what he told you about black mold.
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Don't make it up.
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{\an8}Defendant
Christoper Rix claims Noah Joyner
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{\an8}and Harland Hendrickson
slandered his business on social media.
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Noah and Harland say they were not paid
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for painting Christopher's
apartment complex.
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Now, if I wanted somebody
to work on one of my cars,
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I would not get somebody off the street
who was selling popcorn
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at a concession stand and say, by the way,
my car over there needs a new battery.
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Now, would I take my car back
to the same dealership?
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Maybe not, 'cause they're very expensive.
But would I find somebody
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who at least had a referral,
a recommendation.
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I have a 20-unit apartment complex
that was empty,
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you want to use it as a business.
You don't hire two smearers
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to go and
take care of your property.
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But you have to...
If you didn't like their work, fire 'em.
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And if their work was not complete
and only three units were touched,
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which I don't think that they argue with.
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So far, that's correct, Mr. Hendrickson?
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That is incorrect.
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{\an8}- How many units did you paint?
- Five.
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{\an8}And I actually painted seven,
but I didn't complete the last two,
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- I just did the trim.
- Okay, so,
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you completed five units out of 20.
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Yes.
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I'm giving him
the benefit of the doubt.
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- Mm-hmm.
- And you agreed to $3,000.
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- That's incorrect, Your Honor.
- How much?
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We did not have a meeting to
talk about a payment until the 29th.
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And that was actually part of the reason
that him and I were arguing.
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Um, Chris and I and Noah
met at a coffee shop
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{\an8}and we spoke about how much
we would be getting paid.
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{\an8}We agreed on a $3,000 price
for the end of the month of July,
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because Christopher was supposed to be
going on a vacation until July 20th.
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So, the $3,000 was mentioned and...
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It was mentioned. And then, he told
me and Noah, Chris told me and Noah
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that on the 30th, he would pay us half
of what he was going to be paying us.
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Just a second. You were hired
to paint 20 units.
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Yes, Your Honor.
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You painted five, which is
one quarter of the $3,000.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Let's say those apartments were complete,
not satisfactorily to him,
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but now you both agree that the $3,000
price was mentioned for the 20 units.
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Yes.
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It would be $750 if they did five units.
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That's all, $750. That would be $750
if you completed only a quarter of them.
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Okay. Did you pay them any money
for painting, yes or no?
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No.
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Okay. Good. So, best case scenario
for the painting
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is $750.
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And I haven't gotten to his counterclaim
yet, but you have one more claim.
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And your claim is that Mr. Rix vandalized
your car by throwing paint on it.
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- Yes, Your Honor.
- Tell me when that happened.
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We woke up July 20th, 2022...
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Seven-twenty.
Where did you wake up?
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At our house, our apartment.
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- Hot Springs, Arkansas.
- Tell me what happened.
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{\an8}I woke up to my car being splattered
with the same color paint
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that we were using in his apartments.
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Okay. So, your car had paint on it
when you woke up.
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- Did you see anybody do it?
- No, ma'am.
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Just let me take a look at the photograph.
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Okay. Did you file a police report?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- I'd like to see it.
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Okay. So, no one saw this, but you say
that there is a video that you have.
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I assume, Mr. Rix, unless you want to
tell me that you did, in fact,
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- throw paint primer on his car.
- No.
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I absolutely did not.
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And you did not see anybody throw paint
primer on the car?
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But you say there was a video...
"Noah stated that he has video
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from his apartment complex
pointing right at Noah's vehicle."
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I think the police put that in there
'cause they had interviewed...
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- So there is no video.
- No, ma'am.
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And you did not witness this.
- No, ma'am.
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And other than thinking that
this paint primer was a result of actions
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in retaliation for something that you did.
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Do you have any witness
that saw him do that?
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- No, ma'am.
- I have to see proof
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that the Defendant had anything
to do with this car.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Okay?
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Did you take the car in to be cleaned?
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{\an8}Um, yes. I cleaned it myself
just to avoid further damage.
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Yes.
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{\an8}But after I cleaned it,
I took it to the auto-body shop
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{\an8}to see what the actual repairs were.
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Do you have pictures of it
after you cleaned it?
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After we cleaned it,
it looked somewhat like this.
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And then we had to take it
to the body shop.
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The buffed off the rest of it for us.
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What you're telling me is you took it to
an auto-body shop and the auto-body shop.
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They helped clean up the rest of it
but the still took off our top coat.
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Very good. Well, you have no proof
he did it. So far, he owes you $750.
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{\an8}May I interject that he
doesn't even own...
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{\an8}I don't care. There's no proof
you did anything to the car.
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Okay. I'm not going to get into filing
a false ABC complaint with the sheriff,
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because he's not going to be able to
prove to me that it's true,
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other than by what he says or
his own observations.
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He doesn't have anybody who's here
who's under the age of 21
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who's gonna testify that
you served them alcohol.
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So, I'm not gonna entertain
that part of your claim.
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Money owed for slander.
That, I would like to see.
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That's your cross-complaint.
So far, the Plaintiff has $750
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for painting one quarter of the places
that he was contracted to do.
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This is the first, um, document.
And I had calls just pour in,
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um, wanting to know if I'd seen it.
And then...
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Just a second. Don't tell me
you had calls pouring in, sir,
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- because that's hearsay.
- Yes, ma'am.
295
00:14:53,166 --> 00:14:56,800
What's the date on this? This one
that I'm reading. It says one day ago.
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It was around the first couple of weeks
of July.
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Okay. I'd like you to tell me, Mr. Joyner,
the conversation, where it took place,
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and under what circumstances,
when you had a conversation with Mr. Rix
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about covering up certain hazards.
I'd like to hear that.
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What would you like to hear?
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I'd like to hear
where the conversation took place,
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00:15:19,433 --> 00:15:21,667
exactly what you said to him
and what he said to you.
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Where it took place?
- Yes. Where it took place,
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exactly what you said to him and
exactly what he said to you.
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00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,133
I'm confused. So, like, what is...
What are we... What is...
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- We're on now, a post.
- I know, the post about the...
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We're on now, a post.
So, I want you to tell me
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when you had the conversation,
where you were,
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and what you said to him,
mostly what he said to you,
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about covering up certain things
with paint.
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Okay, yes, ma'am. So, we were told
to cover up holes and stuff
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with caulking and then paint over it.
And then, we were told that...
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- I was told...
- No, look at me.
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I was told to go declutter
one of the units
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that had a bunch of old parquet tiles,
ceramic tiles piled high to the ceiling,
316
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with old ceiling fans disintegrating.
317
00:16:03,433 --> 00:16:06,000
Yeah, that was the unit that was...
Go ahead. And?
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00:16:06,066 --> 00:16:07,734
So, he told me that I had...
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I want you to tell me the worst thing
he told you to do,
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in the apartment complex. Tell me
the worst thing he told you to do.
321
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,767
There were a lot of terrible things.
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Just stop and think of
what is the worst thing he told you to do.
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00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,633
The worst instruction he gave you.
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Pretty much, that I should do it
without the proper protective...
325
00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:30,800
- No, that's general, sir.
- Okay.
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00:16:30,867 --> 00:16:36,233
I asked you specific. You posted something
about him, about his apartment complex,
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about the work that you were doing.
And I want you to tell me
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the worst thing he told you
to make short shrift of,
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or to cover up.
330
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Mm, water damage, black mold...
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00:16:49,433 --> 00:16:53,700
Okay. Let's go to black mold.
When did you have a discussion with him
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about black mold?
333
00:16:55,066 --> 00:16:57,567
{\an8}The day that he told me
to declutter the apartment.
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00:16:57,633 --> 00:16:59,400
So, that would be Wednesday, June...
335
00:16:59,467 --> 00:17:02,767
So, there was one apartment
that he told you to declutter.
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00:17:02,834 --> 00:17:04,300
Okay, and that would be June what?
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00:17:04,367 --> 00:17:06,667
Monday, June 27th.
I think that's what that...
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00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:08,233
Was he there in person?
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00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:09,500
Yes, ma'am.
340
00:17:09,567 --> 00:17:13,367
So, I'd like you to tell me what
he said to you and what you said to him.
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00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:15,266
He told me to go...
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00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:16,600
Look here. Look here.
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00:17:16,667 --> 00:17:19,900
He told me to declutter the unit,
take out all of it, throw it away.
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00:17:19,967 --> 00:17:21,967
And to just...
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00:17:22,033 --> 00:17:23,667
No-no, don't look over there.
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00:17:23,734 --> 00:17:26,066
- Just to clean it, basically.
- To clean it.
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00:17:26,133 --> 00:17:27,700
So it'd be ready to be painted.
348
00:17:27,767 --> 00:17:29,734
- And?
- I did. I cleaned it.
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00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:30,900
And?
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- I'm done.
- You're done?
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00:17:33,333 --> 00:17:35,233
I don't know what else to say, that's...
352
00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:39,467
Well, "I want you to clean it"
doesn't tell me anything about black mold.
353
00:17:39,533 --> 00:17:41,567
I don't know what you're wanting from me.
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00:17:41,633 --> 00:17:44,467
What I want you to do is
to tell me what he told you
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00:17:44,533 --> 00:17:47,233
about black mold. Don't make it up.
356
00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:53,100
Your post, based upon your testimony,
was slanderous.
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00:17:53,166 --> 00:17:56,700
I got confused. I don't know what you were
really trying to like, ask out of me.
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00:17:56,767 --> 00:17:59,500
I asked you specific questions,
you gave me answers.
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00:17:59,567 --> 00:18:01,500
Now is not the time to play catch up.
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00:18:13,467 --> 00:18:16,633
{\an8}Defendant
Christoper Rix claims Noah Joyner
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00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:20,400
and Harland Hendrickson
slandered his business on social media.
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00:18:20,467 --> 00:18:22,967
Noah and Harland say they were not paid
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00:18:23,033 --> 00:18:25,533
for painting Christopher's
apartment complex.
364
00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,333
Now, tell me what he told you
about black mold.
365
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,533
He didn't tell me anything
about the black mold.
366
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,767
Great. And what did he tell you
about rat feces?
367
00:18:35,834 --> 00:18:37,767
He didn't tell me anything
about rat feces.
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00:18:37,834 --> 00:18:40,567
- I handled all that stuff without...
- Ssh!
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00:18:40,633 --> 00:18:43,033
Then you did that all yourself.
370
00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:48,367
Well, in this posting you said, "Chris,"
that would be you,
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00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:53,767
"wanted us to paint over chips,"
possible, "dust," maybe,
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00:18:53,834 --> 00:18:59,433
"mold," never. He never told you that.
That's what you just told me.
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00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:03,166
"Black mold, rat feces and urine."
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00:19:03,233 --> 00:19:05,700
{\an8}He never told you
to cover up those things.
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00:19:05,767 --> 00:19:08,667
{\an8}You may have done it, but
according to you, he just said clean it.
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00:19:08,734 --> 00:19:10,600
He had told us to cover up the mold that...
377
00:19:10,667 --> 00:19:13,667
Oh, I don't believe that.
Oh, I don't believe that.
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00:19:13,734 --> 00:19:16,133
"In a second." That's Mr. Joyner.
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00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,533
Yeah, it was Mr. Joyner.
380
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,533
This is Mr. Joyner's post.
And he never told him anything.
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00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,867
According to him, he said just clean it.
Do you have the second post?
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00:19:25,934 --> 00:19:29,367
That one was taken down. And
this is the second post that he reposted.
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00:19:29,433 --> 00:19:33,600
And then, his account got blocked because
they don't allow that type of behavior.
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00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:41,834
This is the next one. And this is where he
claimed to be a bartender on Facebook.
385
00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:44,767
And he just took it down recently.
It's been up there for months.
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00:19:44,834 --> 00:19:46,567
And I never hired him for a bartender.
387
00:19:46,633 --> 00:19:49,100
That's all right, I don't care.
That's not important.
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00:19:49,166 --> 00:19:53,333
What I'm concerned about is what he says
you told him to do, which you did not.
389
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,734
- Right.
- He acknowledges that you did not.
390
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,266
Now, you have no witnesses here.
391
00:19:57,333 --> 00:19:59,467
I was gonna bring one person
and she's got COVID.
392
00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:01,500
- Yes, I have no one.
- You have no witnesses.
393
00:20:01,567 --> 00:20:02,700
I have no one, Your Honor.
394
00:20:02,767 --> 00:20:07,266
Very good. Okay. I find that the things
that you posted are slanderous
395
00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:10,767
with regard to what he instructed
you to do, Mr. Joyner.
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00:20:10,834 --> 00:20:12,433
You were the posting person.
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00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:17,834
As far as covering up black mold,
feces and urine.
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00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:21,433
And therefore, to beware of Rix Realty.
399
00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:25,600
Your post, based upon your testimony,
was slanderous.
400
00:20:25,667 --> 00:20:27,967
Because he never told you that. So...
401
00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:29,934
But you never really cleared that...
I'm sorry.
402
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,033
You never really cleared it up.
I got confused.
403
00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:34,633
I don't know what you were really trying
to ask out of me.
404
00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:37,800
It was told to me that I needed to take
care of all that stuff and throw it away.
405
00:20:37,867 --> 00:20:40,533
Yes, ma'am, it was told to me that.
So that's why I posted.
406
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,767
It was a warning, so no one else
would have to deal with that same stuff.
407
00:20:43,834 --> 00:20:47,166
Very good. I'm ruling now.
So now, it's my time.
408
00:20:47,233 --> 00:20:50,266
I asked you specific questions,
you gave me answers.
409
00:20:50,333 --> 00:20:52,100
Now is not the time to play catch up.
410
00:20:52,166 --> 00:20:56,934
I find that by posting that he instructed
you to cover up black mold,
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00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,734
people responded to, actually,
and rat feces,
412
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,133
I don't know how you cover rat feces
and urine with paint.
413
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,467
And to stay away from
his place of business without cause,
414
00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:12,433
because what you told me was,
he told me to clean it up,
415
00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:16,500
that that's slanderous.
And so, on the counterclaim
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00:21:16,567 --> 00:21:22,433
that he has for slander,
I am awarding him $2,750.
417
00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:26,567
That's a net, net to him of $2,000.
418
00:21:26,633 --> 00:21:29,600
Because your claim of $750 for wages
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00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:32,900
is absorbed by his counterclaim.
420
00:21:32,967 --> 00:21:36,133
So, on your claim, you get zero.
Zippity-doo-dah.
421
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,567
I'm awarding him $2,000 for slander.
We're done here. Thank you very much.
422
00:21:39,633 --> 00:21:42,266
- What about the damages, Your Honor?
- We are finished.
423
00:21:42,333 --> 00:21:46,433
Hire a professional, Mr. Rix.
You want a smearer, that's what you get.
424
00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,300
This court is adjourned.
425
00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:52,533
Regardless of terminology and
how things got messed up,
426
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,333
why would you expect someone
to clean up rat feces,
427
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,433
all of this stuff, and do it for free?
428
00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:00,500
It's clear, no good deed goes unpunished.
I tried to help those kids.
429
00:22:00,567 --> 00:22:02,633
I don't understand any of this, really.
430
00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:04,633
They were trying to extort money from me
431
00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:08,133
and not do work and be lazy and
just get paid for work they didn't do.
432
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,000
- We're trying to move on.
- We'll move on.
433
00:22:10,066 --> 00:22:12,734
I kinda try to give people chances
when they're down on their luck.
434
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,500
I've always been a philanthropist,
try to help people out.
435
00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:16,900
Sometimes you get burned.
436
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:22,367
First of all, if you're an employee
and you're working, either by the hour,
437
00:22:22,433 --> 00:22:26,200
or by the day, you're not
a weekly employee, or bi-weekly,
438
00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:29,900
salaried employee, you're supposed to
keep track of the hours where you work.
439
00:22:29,967 --> 00:22:33,533
Especially if you wanna s... If there is
a potential of suing later for them.
440
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,734
As a Plaintiff, that is your burden.
I was interested to see
441
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,533
that you were willing to take
that information from the Defendant.
442
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,100
Because if it were me,
if the Plaintiff didn't have it,
443
00:22:43,166 --> 00:22:44,533
that's not the Defendant's burden.
444
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,433
Well, that's actually true.
445
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,767
So, I knew you did it to sort of
round out the sides of the case,
446
00:22:50,834 --> 00:22:52,467
but I think that if you, as the Plaintiff,
447
00:22:52,533 --> 00:22:54,200
want to come here and
ask the court for money,
448
00:22:54,266 --> 00:22:55,967
you better have your ducks in a row and...
449
00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:59,433
Well, that's true, that was true.
That was probably an error for me.
450
00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:00,967
Not that he got anything but...
451
00:23:01,033 --> 00:23:02,800
We got where we needed to go, but...
452
00:23:02,867 --> 00:23:06,100
We got where we needed to go. But that's
true, it's not the Defendant's burden.
453
00:23:06,166 --> 00:23:09,300
Although, the Defendant acknowledged
that he worked for him.
454
00:23:09,367 --> 00:23:12,800
Very forthcoming and honest. But that
again, played better for the Defendant
455
00:23:12,867 --> 00:23:15,166
as we saw in the ruling,
that he was professional...
456
00:23:15,233 --> 00:23:16,934
You're supposed to have
your ducks in a row.
457
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,900
Yes, and as a Plaintiff,
you don't get any money
458
00:23:18,967 --> 00:23:21,433
if you can't even keep track of
the hours that you work.
459
00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:25,667
The second thing is that
the call to Alcohol and Beverage.
460
00:23:25,734 --> 00:23:28,500
You know, if you feel as if
you're doing a public service
461
00:23:28,567 --> 00:23:32,200
by reporting behavior that you think
could be potentially dangerous,
462
00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:33,633
- I support that.
- Mm-hmm.
463
00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:36,934
But if you're doing it as
a retaliatory act,
464
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,467
and you don't do it immediately,
it's like reporting suspected child abuse.
465
00:23:41,533 --> 00:23:46,166
If you see a child being abused
or neglected, and you do nothing,
466
00:23:46,233 --> 00:23:52,066
and wait a month, until you have a fight
with the person who is the abuser,
467
00:23:52,133 --> 00:23:57,967
that creates a suspicion that it's
vindictive and there's a motive to lie.
468
00:23:58,033 --> 00:24:00,133
- Of course.
- 'Cause it wasn't done immediately.
469
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,867
And they sought another job
from the same man after reporting him.
470
00:24:03,934 --> 00:24:07,066
Right. You know,
to the Defendant's detriment,
471
00:24:07,133 --> 00:24:10,900
in my eyes, is if you have
a big apartment complex,
472
00:24:10,967 --> 00:24:15,700
and you have guys who were in
the jewelry business and didn't make it,
473
00:24:15,767 --> 00:24:18,834
then came to work for you in your theater,
474
00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:20,734
and really weren't very good at that either,
475
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,200
then I wouldn't hire them to house paint.
476
00:24:23,266 --> 00:24:25,700
- Yeah. That actually requires a skill.
- You know,
477
00:24:25,767 --> 00:24:28,667
without any credentials. So,
478
00:24:28,734 --> 00:24:32,233
I think that you have to be careful if you
have a valuable piece of real estate.
479
00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:35,133
- Agreed.
- Anyway he can't slander him. And he did.
480
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,033
It all worked out
how it was supposed to.
481
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:37,967
I hope so.
482
00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:43,233
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