1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:02,900 It's one o'clock in the morning, and you're on your way home. 2 00:00:02,967 --> 00:00:04,133 And...? 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,567 I seen, like, a dog. I swerved. 4 00:00:06,633 --> 00:00:07,700 You go into a house. 5 00:00:07,767 --> 00:00:11,500 She went through two walls. What were you drinking? 6 00:00:11,567 --> 00:00:13,934 Two beers. The dog that I swerved to hit, 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,800 she seen the dog as well. 8 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:19,633 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 9 00:00:19,700 --> 00:00:22,200 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays] 10 00:00:36,867 --> 00:00:39,166 {\an8}Whitney Shepherd is suing motorist 11 00:00:39,233 --> 00:00:42,300 {\an8}Rachel Velasquez for property damage. 12 00:00:42,367 --> 00:00:44,066 [Kevin] Court come to order. All rise. 13 00:00:44,133 --> 00:00:45,834 Have a seat, everyone. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,166 {\an8}Hello, Judge. Case 2098, Shepherd versus Velasquez. 15 00:00:50,233 --> 00:00:51,600 {\an8}- Thank you. - You're welcome. 16 00:00:52,433 --> 00:00:54,800 Okay, Ms. Velasquez, I'm going to start with you 17 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:59,000 {\an8}because the case is unusual and the case really starts with you. 18 00:00:59,066 --> 00:01:01,333 - You were driving your car. - Correct. 19 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,500 And had an accident on the 13th of February of this year. 20 00:01:05,567 --> 00:01:08,133 - Right. - Tell me about it. 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,033 I was going west on... 22 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:11,700 - You were driving? - I was driving. I was driving. 23 00:01:11,767 --> 00:01:14,266 First, at what time did this take place? 24 00:01:14,333 --> 00:01:16,500 It happened about one a.m. 25 00:01:16,567 --> 00:01:18,400 - Where were you coming from? - From my sister's home. 26 00:01:18,467 --> 00:01:20,700 - Anybody else in the car with you? - No. 27 00:01:20,767 --> 00:01:23,100 What day of the week was February 13th? 28 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:24,967 That was on a Saturday. 29 00:01:25,033 --> 00:01:28,266 So you were at some sort of a gathering at your sister's house? 30 00:01:28,333 --> 00:01:29,600 I was at my sister's house, yes. 31 00:01:29,667 --> 00:01:31,633 How many people were at the gathering? 32 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:33,834 {\an8}There was just about maybe ten of us. 33 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:36,333 {\an8}And what time had you arrived at your sister's house? 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,266 Saturday at midmorning. 35 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:39,867 - Did you have dinner there? - Yes. 36 00:01:39,934 --> 00:01:41,900 Any alcohol served all day? 37 00:01:41,967 --> 00:01:42,967 Yes. 38 00:01:43,033 --> 00:01:44,266 - What kind? - Just a beer. 39 00:01:44,333 --> 00:01:46,266 Just a... beer. 40 00:01:46,333 --> 00:01:47,400 - I wasn't there. - [chuckles] A beer. 41 00:01:47,467 --> 00:01:49,967 My invitation got lost in the mail. 42 00:01:50,033 --> 00:01:51,700 What were you drinking? 43 00:01:51,767 --> 00:01:54,633 I, uh, drank two beers, but again, mind you, 44 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:56,467 This was, and... it was at the afternoon. 45 00:01:56,533 --> 00:01:58,734 Just a second. So you had two beers? 46 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Yes. 47 00:01:59,867 --> 00:02:01,834 Now, you get into the car, it's one o'clock in the morning, 48 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:03,934 and you're on your way home. And...? 49 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,066 Let's hear what happened. 50 00:02:05,133 --> 00:02:06,133 Okay. 51 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,867 Traveling from your sister's house, maybe I'll make this easier for you. 52 00:02:09,934 --> 00:02:12,734 How far a distance is it from your sister's house to your house? 53 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,233 About twenty minutes. 54 00:02:15,300 --> 00:02:18,567 And how far into the trip did this accident occur? 55 00:02:18,633 --> 00:02:19,900 Like fifteen minutes. 56 00:02:19,967 --> 00:02:22,934 - And tell me about the accident. - Okay, so, I was about to... 57 00:02:23,567 --> 00:02:26,333 I seen, like, a dog or something in the street. 58 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,567 - So, as soon as I seen it... - Just a second. 59 00:02:28,633 --> 00:02:32,300 So it's one o'clock in the morning, you see something in the street. 60 00:02:32,367 --> 00:02:33,367 That's what you said. 61 00:02:33,433 --> 00:02:37,066 Okay, well, it was... it was something, but it turned out to be a dog. 62 00:02:37,133 --> 00:02:41,467 {\an8}- So what did you do? - I swerved to not hit the dog. 63 00:02:41,533 --> 00:02:43,066 {\an8}[Judge Judy] Swerve to not hit the something, 64 00:02:43,133 --> 00:02:44,033 {\an8}[defendant] But it was a dog. 65 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:45,900 [Judge Judy] Well, we're going to get to how you know that. 66 00:02:45,967 --> 00:02:49,934 So you swerved to avoid hitting the something, 67 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:54,200 and you went into a house, went over a fire hydrant. 68 00:02:54,266 --> 00:02:55,333 The fire hydrant actually... 69 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,066 when I hit the fire hydrant, the fire hydrant pushed me into the house. 70 00:02:59,133 --> 00:03:01,500 Fire hydrant, water. 71 00:03:01,567 --> 00:03:03,066 And you went into the house. 72 00:03:03,133 --> 00:03:07,133 The force of the fire hydrant didn't send you into the house, madam, 73 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,367 unless you're telling me that the fire hydrant went 74 00:03:09,433 --> 00:03:14,567 and the water was such force that it pushed your car into the house. 75 00:03:14,633 --> 00:03:16,934 {\an8}Which I won't believe. Do you understand? 76 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,934 {\an8}So you swerved to avoid something in the road 77 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,600 {\an8}and were clearly going at such a speed 78 00:03:22,667 --> 00:03:25,266 that you went right into a house. 79 00:03:25,333 --> 00:03:27,133 Did you go through the wall of the house? 80 00:03:28,266 --> 00:03:30,233 {\an8}- That's either a yes or a no. - Yes. 81 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:33,433 {\an8}And that's what this case is about, because Ms. Shepherd 82 00:03:33,500 --> 00:03:35,567 is a renter in that house, 83 00:03:35,633 --> 00:03:38,767 and she says that everything of value that she had 84 00:03:38,834 --> 00:03:42,133 was destroyed because of the water and inundation. 85 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,867 And your automobile insurance company 86 00:03:44,934 --> 00:03:48,867 {\an8}paid the owner of the house for the damage to the house, 87 00:03:48,934 --> 00:03:52,934 {\an8}but did not compensate Miss Shepherd for any of her property 88 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,066 that was destroyed. 89 00:03:54,133 --> 00:03:55,867 - That's what the case is about. - Right. 90 00:03:55,934 --> 00:03:59,433 [Judge Judy] So now this dog becomes sort of interesting. 91 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:02,000 - You have a dog? - I do. 92 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,333 Now, you say that you swerved to avoid a something 93 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,033 that you subsequently said was a dog. 94 00:04:08,100 --> 00:04:11,300 Now, you're in the house because that's where the car is. 95 00:04:11,367 --> 00:04:13,834 I assume that they had to get you out of the car, 96 00:04:13,900 --> 00:04:15,500 or did you get out of the car on your own? 97 00:04:15,567 --> 00:04:18,100 Yeah, my car was not in the house, but I didn't-- 98 00:04:18,166 --> 00:04:21,367 I was out of-- I was out of the car. I got out by myself. 99 00:04:21,433 --> 00:04:23,166 Do you have photographs of the house? 100 00:04:23,233 --> 00:04:25,467 - [plaintiff] I do. - I'd like to take a look at them. 101 00:04:33,567 --> 00:04:35,100 Oh, that's pretty much in the house. 102 00:04:35,166 --> 00:04:37,567 [plaintiff] Yeah. She went through two walls. 103 00:04:37,633 --> 00:04:38,934 [Judge Judy] Yeah. Do you know how much money 104 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,700 your insurance company paid out to the homeowner? 105 00:04:41,767 --> 00:04:44,433 - Five thousand. - [Judge Judy] Five thousand? 106 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:47,133 - Is this your car? - Yes. 107 00:04:48,266 --> 00:04:50,533 And this is where it landed? 108 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,900 - Yes. - Okay. 109 00:04:51,967 --> 00:04:55,500 Now, you got out of the car, and what did you do? 110 00:04:55,567 --> 00:04:59,900 I got out of the car. My sister, she was there-- she was there, too. 111 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:01,700 What do you mean your sister was there too? 112 00:05:01,767 --> 00:05:03,100 She was following right behind me 113 00:05:03,166 --> 00:05:05,900 'cause she's the one, Louise-- she had seen the dog that-- 114 00:05:05,967 --> 00:05:09,433 the dog that I swerved to hit, she seen the dog as well. 115 00:05:09,867 --> 00:05:11,500 [laughing] 116 00:05:11,567 --> 00:05:12,967 I'm talking to you. 117 00:05:13,033 --> 00:05:14,800 You got out of the car and... 118 00:05:15,734 --> 00:05:18,233 My sister-- I went to go walk to get my sister, 119 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,300 and we waited for the ambulance to get-- to get there. 120 00:05:21,367 --> 00:05:22,800 - For whom? - For me. 121 00:05:22,867 --> 00:05:25,166 - What was wrong with you? - I had three broken ribs. 122 00:05:25,233 --> 00:05:26,967 Where did you wait for the ambulance? 123 00:05:27,033 --> 00:05:28,834 Um, right in front of the house. 124 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:30,300 Now tell me about the dog. 125 00:05:30,367 --> 00:05:32,166 The dog, I... right when I... 126 00:05:32,233 --> 00:05:35,667 right when the car came to the stop, I seen the dog run back into the yard. 127 00:05:35,734 --> 00:05:37,467 [Judge Judy] Yeah. So... [soft chuckle] 128 00:05:38,333 --> 00:05:41,166 You're crashing into the front of the house. 129 00:05:41,233 --> 00:05:42,734 Your eyes are in front of you. 130 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,767 You're crashing into a house. 131 00:05:44,834 --> 00:05:47,934 You take down the whole wall when you crashed into the house, 132 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,100 and what you're telling me is you crashed into the house, 133 00:05:50,166 --> 00:05:52,000 and out of what kind of vision...? 134 00:05:52,066 --> 00:05:53,633 You went through a wall. 135 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:56,667 How did your eyes get to the backyard? 136 00:05:56,734 --> 00:05:58,934 You swerve. You go into-- 137 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,233 Either you swerve because there's something in the road, 138 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:03,133 or you swerve because you weren't paying attention, 139 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,934 or you swerve because the beers that you had 140 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,667 were too late in the day. 141 00:06:06,734 --> 00:06:09,266 Whatever the reason that you swerved, 142 00:06:09,333 --> 00:06:11,633 but now you're facing the inside of a house. 143 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:15,867 I want to know at what point you saw a dog run to the backyard. 144 00:06:15,934 --> 00:06:18,333 Well, the-the car wasn't-- I didn't hit head on. 145 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,266 It was on the side. It was on the-- on the-- the left side-- 146 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:22,867 The right side. It was on the right side. 147 00:06:22,934 --> 00:06:25,600 So, when I hit, everything went to the right side. 148 00:06:25,667 --> 00:06:27,367 I didn't hit it straight on, head forward. 149 00:06:28,734 --> 00:06:29,900 This is your car. 150 00:06:29,967 --> 00:06:31,800 [defendant] I didn't-- I did not hit straight, head on. 151 00:06:31,867 --> 00:06:33,000 [Judge Judy] This is your car. 152 00:06:33,066 --> 00:06:35,266 So you're telling me your car was damaged before? 153 00:06:35,333 --> 00:06:36,600 - No, ma'am. - Okay. 154 00:06:36,667 --> 00:06:38,834 Now I'd like you to tell me, Ms. Shepherd, 155 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:40,767 {\an8}I'm sure you have a list of things that were destroyed. 156 00:06:40,834 --> 00:06:43,734 {\an8}- You did not have renters insurance? - I did not. 157 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,633 {\an8}And what happened when you submitted a claim 158 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:47,900 {\an8}to Ms. Velasquez's insurance company? 159 00:06:47,967 --> 00:06:49,433 Absolutely nothing. 160 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:51,767 - They never even got back to me on it. - Okay. 161 00:06:51,834 --> 00:06:54,266 I'd like to see proof that your insurance company 162 00:06:54,333 --> 00:06:56,000 paid the owner of the house. 163 00:06:56,633 --> 00:07:00,500 - I don't have that on me. - You have your insurance card here? 164 00:07:00,567 --> 00:07:02,567 - Yes. - Good, I'd like to see it. 165 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:14,767 Did you make a claim? 166 00:07:14,834 --> 00:07:19,700 I did. I did. The day on February 14th. 167 00:07:19,767 --> 00:07:21,400 Who owns this car? 168 00:07:21,467 --> 00:07:23,734 - I do. - What kind of car were you driving? 169 00:07:23,867 --> 00:07:27,633 - It's a 2017 Honda Accord. - Did they pay to have your car fixed? 170 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:29,400 - No. - Did they cover it at all? 171 00:07:29,467 --> 00:07:33,767 You had a $500 deductible for collision. Did they pay for your car? 172 00:07:33,834 --> 00:07:36,166 - No. - You have medical records? 173 00:07:36,233 --> 00:07:40,066 - No, I didn't bring them. - Did the police respond to the location? 174 00:07:40,133 --> 00:07:42,600 - Yes. - Were you given a blood alcohol test 175 00:07:42,667 --> 00:07:44,200 or a breathalyzer test at the scene? 176 00:07:44,266 --> 00:07:46,567 - No. - Do you have a police report? 177 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:49,000 - I do. - I'd like to take a look at it. 178 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:01,934 Okay. Arrived at the scene at 2:30 in the morning. 179 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,600 (reading) "This was determined to be a solo vehicle crash 180 00:08:04,667 --> 00:08:08,934 with minor injuries involving an impaired driver." 181 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,266 That impaired driver would be you, 182 00:08:11,333 --> 00:08:13,800 because she wasn't driving her house. 183 00:08:13,867 --> 00:08:17,867 Now, Ms. Velasquez, not good form when the police reports-- 184 00:08:17,934 --> 00:08:19,433 Do you see the police report? 185 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:21,266 - Have you seen the police report? - Yes. 186 00:08:21,333 --> 00:08:23,433 Okay, so you know the police report found 187 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:26,266 {\an8}that you were impaired at the time of the accident. 188 00:08:26,333 --> 00:08:30,867 {\an8}It also indicates that the police officer immediately after the accident, 189 00:08:30,934 --> 00:08:33,266 questioned you on a gurney in the hospital. 190 00:08:33,333 --> 00:08:37,000 That was immediately after this happened. I'm going to read what it says. 191 00:08:37,066 --> 00:08:39,667 "Party one, Velasquez, was riding her Honda 192 00:08:39,734 --> 00:08:43,400 at 55 miles per hour while under the influence." 193 00:08:43,467 --> 00:08:47,767 It says at the time of your statement, party one, that's you-- 194 00:08:47,834 --> 00:08:49,467 states, "She attempted to turn left 195 00:08:49,533 --> 00:08:52,834 because she was heading to her mother's house, 196 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:55,467 but did not recall how she crashed." 197 00:08:56,166 --> 00:08:59,333 I certainly don't see anything about a dog here, 198 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,233 only an impaired driver. 199 00:09:02,133 --> 00:09:04,433 And then later you told this police officer 200 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:08,000 that you admitted drinking three beers earlier at home. 201 00:09:08,066 --> 00:09:09,934 Police officer said he asked you 202 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,433 whether you felt the effects of alcohol drinks, 203 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:13,867 to which you replied yes. 204 00:09:13,934 --> 00:09:17,533 "The officer conducted a limited number of field sobriety tests 205 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,967 at the hospital, which Party One failed to perform. 206 00:09:21,033 --> 00:09:24,400 Party One's subject to signs and symptoms of intoxication." 207 00:09:24,467 --> 00:09:26,900 - And you were placed under arrest. - No, ma'am. 208 00:09:26,967 --> 00:09:30,867 Yeah. "I placed Party One"-- that's you-- "under arrest for DUI." 209 00:09:30,934 --> 00:09:33,533 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays] 210 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,867 This police officer determined that you were drunk, 211 00:09:35,934 --> 00:09:38,500 and this police report has absolutely nothing 212 00:09:38,567 --> 00:09:40,767 about a dog causing the accident. 213 00:09:40,834 --> 00:09:43,233 It has you saying, "I don't know what caused the accident." 214 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:44,233 Yes. 215 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:45,867 [announcer] And later today... 216 00:09:45,934 --> 00:09:47,867 I don't understand what the issue is. 217 00:09:47,934 --> 00:09:50,300 She paid for the tickets. You did not. 218 00:09:50,367 --> 00:09:52,400 - But you used the vouchers. - I did. 219 00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:55,433 Well, then she's entitled to be compensated for what she paid. 220 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:57,033 I mean, I don't know. This is not rocket science. 221 00:09:57,100 --> 00:09:58,367 Am I missing something here? 222 00:09:58,433 --> 00:09:59,900 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays] 223 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:07,600 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays] 224 00:10:09,734 --> 00:10:13,367 {\an8}[announcer] Whitney Shepherd claims motorist Rachel Velasquez 225 00:10:13,433 --> 00:10:15,433 {\an8}owes for property and water damage 226 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:18,500 after Rachel's car ran over a fire hydrant 227 00:10:18,567 --> 00:10:20,467 and crashed into Whitney's home. 228 00:10:20,533 --> 00:10:22,867 Something just came through my house. 229 00:10:22,934 --> 00:10:25,400 My house exploded. 230 00:10:25,467 --> 00:10:27,033 I'm stuck in here. 231 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:28,867 I don't know what's going on. 232 00:10:28,934 --> 00:10:31,567 There is a car in my house. 233 00:10:31,633 --> 00:10:33,300 Oh my god. 234 00:10:33,367 --> 00:10:34,867 They hit the fire hydrant. 235 00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:39,233 They went through... through my house. I no longer have a house. 236 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,633 Okay. Did you receive a citation? 237 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:44,266 No, I did not. 238 00:10:44,367 --> 00:10:45,934 - You didn't? - No, ma'am. 239 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 - Really? - No. 240 00:10:47,066 --> 00:10:50,500 Well, then you want me to assume that the police officer 241 00:10:50,567 --> 00:10:52,834 said that he placed you under arrest-- 242 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:55,367 and I can understand why they didn't remove you from the hospital-- 243 00:10:55,433 --> 00:10:57,934 that you were subsequently given a citation, 244 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,200 but you had to receive some sort of citation from the police, 245 00:11:02,266 --> 00:11:05,367 madam, unless you have medical records 246 00:11:05,433 --> 00:11:08,433 which indicate that the blood that they drew 247 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:10,767 indicated that there was no alcohol in your system 248 00:11:10,834 --> 00:11:13,800 because this police officer determined that you were drunk. 249 00:11:13,867 --> 00:11:16,100 And this police report has absolutely nothing 250 00:11:16,166 --> 00:11:18,166 about a dog causing the accident. 251 00:11:18,233 --> 00:11:21,800 It has you saying, "I don't know what caused the accident." 252 00:11:22,467 --> 00:11:23,467 Yes. 253 00:11:23,533 --> 00:11:25,767 - Okay. Miss Shepherd? - Yes. 254 00:11:25,834 --> 00:11:30,300 The defendant is responsible for the damages done to your property, 255 00:11:30,367 --> 00:11:34,200 and so I've seen the extent of this damage done to the house. 256 00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:38,934 Were you able to stay in the house subsequent to this crash? 257 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,800 - No. - Where did you go? 258 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:44,934 I got relocated to Corona. I'm renting a room in Corona. 259 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,233 And had you been renting the whole house? 260 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:48,367 Yes, yes. 261 00:11:48,433 --> 00:11:50,467 - For how long? - Ten years. 262 00:11:50,533 --> 00:11:54,033 - And what was your rent on the house? - $715 a month. 263 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:58,400 And in the ten years that you lived there, you accumulated all your stuff? 264 00:11:58,467 --> 00:12:01,567 {\an8}Well, that and time before I lived there. But, yes. 265 00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:03,066 {\an8}- But for ten years. - For ten years. 266 00:12:03,133 --> 00:12:05,433 Were you able to take any of your furniture? 267 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:09,500 I got three pieces of furniture, which included my mattress. 268 00:12:09,567 --> 00:12:12,133 - It was okay? - It was okay. 269 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,200 Okay. 270 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:16,400 And I got, uh, an armoire 271 00:12:16,467 --> 00:12:19,066 that is ruined at the bottom from the water, 272 00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:21,734 and a dresser that was ruined from the water. 273 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,233 The rest of the furniture in the house, did it belong to you? 274 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:25,734 - It did. - Okay. 275 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,266 So you had table, chairs, eating. 276 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:30,166 Table and chairs, no couch. 277 00:12:30,233 --> 00:12:33,767 It was a small house, four-- 457 square feet. 278 00:12:33,834 --> 00:12:35,567 What about your clothes? 279 00:12:35,633 --> 00:12:39,100 {\an8}I have not seen my clothes since the day the accident happened. 280 00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:43,166 Did the water infiltrate the house as a result of the fire hydrant? 281 00:12:43,233 --> 00:12:46,900 Yes. I was trapped in that house for four and a half hours. 282 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:50,934 Me and my dog were trapped in the house for four and a half hours. 283 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,834 My dog was in bed with me, sleeping. 284 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:57,233 When you left to rent this room, did you take anything with you? 285 00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:59,166 Well, the night the accident happened, 286 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:01,200 when I was trapped for four and a half hours, 287 00:13:01,266 --> 00:13:04,700 I-I was hiding because the fire hydrant was 288 00:13:04,767 --> 00:13:06,767 throwing big rocks onto the roof, 289 00:13:06,834 --> 00:13:08,667 and I thought the whole house was coming down. 290 00:13:08,734 --> 00:13:11,200 But I kept coming out and filling a backpack 291 00:13:11,266 --> 00:13:13,633 with things my grandchildren had given me 292 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:15,200 and pictures of my grandchildren. 293 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:18,133 I didn't even think to take clothes or anything out. 294 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,867 And you went right there to someplace where you were relocated? 295 00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:22,700 - Or did you go to a relative's? - Yeah, I was relocated immediately. 296 00:13:22,767 --> 00:13:27,934 It was red-tagged, and it took 68 days to get a yellow tag 297 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,700 so I could hire a company. 298 00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:33,433 Do you know how much the landlord got for the damage on this house? 299 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,900 She had insurance, and she's rebuilding right now. 300 00:13:36,967 --> 00:13:40,834 - So she had her own insurance? - She had her own insurance, yeah. 301 00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:43,834 Okay. Ms. Velasquez, there's no question in my mind 302 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:46,600 that your mind is fresher at the time of the incident 303 00:13:46,667 --> 00:13:49,066 than it is months and months later 304 00:13:49,133 --> 00:13:52,700 when you've had a chance to reflect on why an accident is not your fault. 305 00:13:52,767 --> 00:13:56,600 You were questioned by police officers immediately after the incident. 306 00:13:56,667 --> 00:13:58,934 You responded, actually, to the police officers 307 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,333 and told them what happened, 308 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,433 and told them that you crashed and you didn't know why. 309 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:04,867 The police officers observed your demeanor. 310 00:14:04,934 --> 00:14:07,667 They determined that you were operating a vehicle 311 00:14:07,734 --> 00:14:09,567 under the influence of alcohol. 312 00:14:09,633 --> 00:14:11,934 {\an8}I don't know whether you have insurance or not. 313 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,934 {\an8}I don't know whether you had insurance on the date of the incident or not, 314 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,266 but by your careless and reckless behavior, 315 00:14:18,333 --> 00:14:20,734 you've turned this lady's life upside down. 316 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,800 She had a little life in a little house 317 00:14:23,867 --> 00:14:25,700 where she had all of her property, 318 00:14:25,767 --> 00:14:28,300 and you've turned her life totally upside down. 319 00:14:28,367 --> 00:14:31,200 She has nothing, and you're responsible for that. 320 00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:32,667 So if you had no insurance 321 00:14:32,734 --> 00:14:35,200 or if the insurance disclaimed, that would be your problem. 322 00:14:35,266 --> 00:14:38,200 Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount requested, $10,000. 323 00:14:38,266 --> 00:14:39,266 We're finished. 324 00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:41,367 - Thank you, Your Honor. - [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 325 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 {\an8}I think it was the correct decision, 326 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:48,967 {\an8}as it really could be the only decision. 327 00:14:49,033 --> 00:14:51,934 {\an8}I remember seeing the dog run through, 328 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,767 {\an8}and-- but, yeah, it was just-- it was an accident. 329 00:14:53,834 --> 00:14:56,433 {\an8}I thought my house exploded, and I was in a house 330 00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:58,867 {\an8}that was going to come down with my dog. 331 00:14:58,934 --> 00:15:00,300 {\an8}Luckily, I didn't hurt anybody. 332 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:02,433 {\an8}I think anybody who would drink and drive 333 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:05,834 {\an8}isn't willing to take responsibility for their actions. 334 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:09,433 You know, sometimes you're the windshield 335 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:11,266 and sometimes you're a bug. 336 00:15:11,333 --> 00:15:14,300 - Sometimes you're both. - As in this case. 337 00:15:14,367 --> 00:15:17,767 That's really a trick. I have no idea what that insurance is. 338 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:21,500 A lot of fine print, I'm feeling, was probably the issue. 339 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,700 Yeah. But I cannot imagine if it was legitimate insurance. 340 00:15:24,767 --> 00:15:26,400 And she had legitimate insurance, 341 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:30,433 except that she's got a $10,000 maximum on any sort of collision, 342 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:31,900 so I know what it is. 343 00:15:31,967 --> 00:15:33,867 I actually feel sorry for that lady, don't you? 344 00:15:33,934 --> 00:15:37,266 Me too. Everything in 500 square feet, in a home that she's built. 345 00:15:37,333 --> 00:15:39,233 Where she's comfortable. She was comfortable in... 346 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:40,867 - No, exactly. - And she has nothing. 347 00:15:40,934 --> 00:15:42,400 And I didn't see a whole bunch of remorse there. 348 00:15:42,467 --> 00:15:44,066 Nope. Me either. 349 00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:45,834 Case number 2033, 350 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:48,133 Broussard/Fierro versus Stigney. 351 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,033 All parties, please step forward. 352 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:53,433 {\an8}[announcer] Tammi Broussard and Catherine Fierro 353 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:56,233 {\an8}are suing 21-year-old Alesha Stigney 354 00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:59,100 for travel vouchers and harassment. 355 00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:03,734 Whose son was it who was living with the defendant? 356 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,800 My son. 357 00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:07,300 Broad strokes, what I get from this-- 358 00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:08,867 - Is that your son? - Yes, ma'am. 359 00:16:08,934 --> 00:16:12,333 Your son became involved, according to you, with the defendant? 360 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,166 She has one child with your son and one child with someone else? 361 00:16:17,233 --> 00:16:18,233 Yes, ma'am. 362 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:21,400 When I gather, there was a time that everybody was happy living together. 363 00:16:21,467 --> 00:16:26,266 And I believe it was your brother who was getting married in Las Vegas? 364 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:27,333 Yes, ma'am. 365 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,800 And the defendant at that time was put in charge 366 00:16:29,867 --> 00:16:33,333 of ordering the plane tickets for everyone to go, 367 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,066 but the defendant was told to use someone else's credit card. 368 00:16:37,133 --> 00:16:39,633 - And who is that? - That's Catherine Fierro. 369 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:41,200 - That was Ms. Fierro? - Yes. 370 00:16:41,266 --> 00:16:44,533 - Ms. Fierro is whom? - I'm the fiancée to her brother. 371 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,633 In any event, the wedding did not come off as planned in Las Vegas. 372 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:52,900 Parties did not use the flight tickets that you had booked 373 00:16:52,967 --> 00:16:54,467 with someone else's credit card? 374 00:16:54,533 --> 00:16:55,533 Correct. 375 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,934 And you were given travel vouchers, and that's what they're suing for. 376 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,066 They want their travel vouchers. 377 00:17:01,233 --> 00:17:05,233 That's it. So I just have a few questions. It's not a very difficult case. 378 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:10,000 When you booked the flights for everyone, how many tickets did you book? 379 00:17:10,066 --> 00:17:13,133 {\an8}It was myself, my 4-year-old. 380 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,800 {\an8}The infant was a lap, so she would not count. 381 00:17:15,867 --> 00:17:17,700 {\an8}- And your boyfriend? - At the time, yes. 382 00:17:17,767 --> 00:17:20,000 - [Judge Judy] Yes. - And then it was also Tammi Broussard, 383 00:17:20,066 --> 00:17:22,266 her daughter, and that was all. 384 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:25,266 Whose credit card did you pay for those tickets with? 385 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:26,800 - It was Cat's. - That's you? 386 00:17:26,867 --> 00:17:28,667 - Yes. - And did you pay for those tickets? 387 00:17:28,734 --> 00:17:30,600 {\an8}They were put on my credit card, yes, they were, Your Honor. 388 00:17:30,667 --> 00:17:32,967 {\an8}Did you in fact pay for them, is my question. 389 00:17:33,033 --> 00:17:34,734 {\an8}- Yes. - I'd like to see proof 390 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,934 that you paid for their flights, 391 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,734 and if you have, the following month's bill as well. 392 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,467 Did you ever receive a credit for those flights? 393 00:17:40,533 --> 00:17:41,433 - No, I did not. - On your credit... 394 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:45,100 {\an8}I did not know what happened until I asked the, um, son, 395 00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:48,266 {\an8}the flight, the airline, to send me this. 396 00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:49,333 - I'd like to see it. - Here you go. 397 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,266 [Judge Judy] Because it's still on your credit card? 398 00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:52,467 - Yes. - Okay. 399 00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:58,433 Okay, so you received vouchers, according to this, 400 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:01,567 that totaled little over a thousand dollars. 401 00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:03,400 - Yes. - What did you do with them? 402 00:18:03,467 --> 00:18:06,433 - I did use them. - Just a second. 403 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,767 - You didn't pay for the tickets? - Correct. 404 00:18:08,834 --> 00:18:11,934 So my question is, why didn't you turn the vouchers over 405 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,700 to the people who actually paid for the tickets? 406 00:18:14,767 --> 00:18:16,500 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays] 407 00:18:16,567 --> 00:18:18,900 You booked the tickets but didn't pay for them. 408 00:18:18,967 --> 00:18:20,667 Wedding got canceled because of COVID. 409 00:18:20,734 --> 00:18:22,967 You got vouchers for what she paid for, 410 00:18:23,033 --> 00:18:25,667 and you used them without any agreement. 411 00:18:25,734 --> 00:18:28,400 What is the issue here? Am I missing something? 412 00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:29,934 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays] 413 00:18:33,033 --> 00:18:35,600 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays] 414 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:42,800 {\an8}[announcer] Tammi Broussard and Catherine Fierro 415 00:18:42,867 --> 00:18:45,500 {\an8}claim 21-year-old Alesha Stigney 416 00:18:45,567 --> 00:18:48,467 owes for travel vouchers and harassment. 417 00:18:48,533 --> 00:18:50,700 Now, did you discuss the vouchers with her? 418 00:18:50,767 --> 00:18:55,433 I did not meet her until, I believe, early February, 419 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,667 when we left Las Vegas to go to Minnesota. 420 00:18:57,734 --> 00:19:00,900 And shortly after meeting her, the day that we got there, um, 421 00:19:00,967 --> 00:19:04,266 she called my fiancé, uh, asked if we could watch the baby. 422 00:19:04,333 --> 00:19:07,066 - No, no, no. You ca-- - But we did have a discussion about it. 423 00:19:07,133 --> 00:19:10,300 Only a discussion with you. I don't want to hear about any conversation. 424 00:19:10,367 --> 00:19:11,533 Okay, well, I did-- I did bring it up with her. 425 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,767 Well, I'd like you to tell me what the discussion was. 426 00:19:12,834 --> 00:19:16,700 Well, when we came to walk the-- to watch her baby for the first time, 427 00:19:16,767 --> 00:19:18,967 she went to show me the baby's room, where the diapers were, 428 00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:22,066 where the wipes are, and she was running around looking for wipes. 429 00:19:22,133 --> 00:19:24,066 And I said, um, "I don't want to seem rude, 430 00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:27,967 but you do have the vouchers, correct, for the wedding?" 431 00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:30,033 They were specifically meant for my wedding. 432 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:32,166 And she said she didn't really have time to talk about it. 433 00:19:32,233 --> 00:19:34,433 She was going out for the weekend, to Rochester, 434 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,633 to go out and have fun with her, so she just left very quickly. 435 00:19:37,700 --> 00:19:39,934 Then we watched the baby a second time, 436 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,100 and I decided to leave a little bit early to get to the house to watch the baby. 437 00:19:43,166 --> 00:19:45,300 And when we arrived, she was out the door. 438 00:19:45,367 --> 00:19:47,233 So she did not want to talk about the vouchers. 439 00:19:47,333 --> 00:19:48,967 That's sort of speculation. 440 00:19:49,033 --> 00:19:51,367 - Yes. - I don't understand what the issue is. 441 00:19:51,433 --> 00:19:55,300 She paid for the tickets. You did not. But you used the vouchers. 442 00:19:55,367 --> 00:19:56,367 - I did. - Well, then she's 443 00:19:56,433 --> 00:19:58,934 entitled to be-- to be compensated for what she paid. 444 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,166 Your Honor, she also posted on Facebook trying to sell the tickets. 445 00:20:03,233 --> 00:20:05,867 Well, I mean, I don't know. This is not rocket science. 446 00:20:05,934 --> 00:20:08,266 Am I missing something here? 447 00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:10,900 You booked the tickets but didn't pay for them. 448 00:20:10,967 --> 00:20:12,767 Wedding got canceled because of COVID. 449 00:20:12,834 --> 00:20:15,066 You got vouchers for what she paid for, 450 00:20:15,133 --> 00:20:16,567 - and you used them... - Yes. 451 00:20:16,633 --> 00:20:17,667 ...without any agreement. 452 00:20:17,734 --> 00:20:20,033 What is the issue here? Am I missing something? 453 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,066 - I don't think so. - Would you tell me? 454 00:20:23,133 --> 00:20:27,333 Yes. So, back last year, I have the agreement. 455 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,066 It was sometime, I think, June or July. 456 00:20:29,133 --> 00:20:32,033 Tammi moved to Minnesota, or to Austin. 457 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:34,467 Don't go off on a tang-- Listen to me. 458 00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:38,233 Her apartment is in my name because she couldn't put it in her name. 459 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:39,734 Okay. 460 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,734 So they said because later in February, 461 00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:47,767 Cat had now moved into Tammi's apartment with Tammi. 462 00:20:47,834 --> 00:20:49,767 - That is in my name. - Okay. 463 00:20:49,834 --> 00:20:52,266 As a thank-you, they had said that they did not want 464 00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:53,934 the vouchers back that I could use, 465 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,266 and they also said that they were not able to use them 466 00:20:56,333 --> 00:20:58,300 before they expired in October of this year. 467 00:20:58,367 --> 00:21:00,433 - That is not true, Your Honor. - What do you mean, "They said"? 468 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,166 Those are two people. 469 00:21:02,233 --> 00:21:03,867 Yes, Tammi and Cat. 470 00:21:03,934 --> 00:21:08,934 I had ran into Cat at Walmart sometime... late March, I think it was, 471 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,533 after me and the-- Roman had broke up. 472 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,033 - Whatever his name is. Roman? - Roman. 473 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,200 [Judge Judy] "Roman and I broke up." 474 00:21:15,266 --> 00:21:19,166 I'm still trying to figure out why you didn't 475 00:21:19,233 --> 00:21:21,700 give her the vouchers when you got them. 476 00:21:21,767 --> 00:21:23,433 We were still together, me and Roman. 477 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:24,934 We were planning on taking a trip this year. 478 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,333 {\an8}What difference does it make? 479 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,133 {\an8}Were you supposed to pay for the tickets to Vegas? 480 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,533 - No. - Was that your agreement, 481 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,900 that somebody else was going to pay for them? 482 00:21:32,967 --> 00:21:34,700 They agreed that they'd pay for them, yes. 483 00:21:34,767 --> 00:21:36,600 - Is that right? - To come to the wedding. 484 00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:38,000 Not to go anywhere else, just to the wedding. 485 00:21:38,066 --> 00:21:39,467 To come to the wedding. But the wedding was cancelled. 486 00:21:39,533 --> 00:21:40,667 - Yes. - Correct. 487 00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:44,266 And we did not speak at Walmart about anything about those. 488 00:21:44,333 --> 00:21:46,834 What I have here are two charges, 489 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:50,000 one for 320 and one for 538. 490 00:21:50,066 --> 00:21:52,166 Is that what you spent on the tickets? 491 00:21:52,233 --> 00:21:53,233 - Yes. - And, ma'am... 492 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:56,433 I have something from June 18th on Facebook 493 00:21:56,500 --> 00:22:00,834 where she was trying to sell them on Facebook, and I had, um... 494 00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,967 I actually, Ms. Broussard, don't understand why you're here. 495 00:22:04,033 --> 00:22:06,767 {\an8}I'm here because there's also a harassment. 496 00:22:06,834 --> 00:22:08,400 {\an8}We have a police report regarding that. 497 00:22:08,467 --> 00:22:09,467 - Okay. - As well as she... 498 00:22:09,533 --> 00:22:11,867 Okay, so with regard to your claim, 499 00:22:11,934 --> 00:22:14,934 she owes you $858 for the tickets? 500 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,633 - Yes. - So that judgment is taken care of. 501 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:19,033 - You can have a seat. - Thank you. 502 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,333 The other part of the claim is for harassment. 503 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Do you want to tell me when this harassment started? 504 00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:26,900 {\an8}I assume it was after your son 505 00:22:26,967 --> 00:22:29,533 {\an8}and the defendant terminated their relationship. 506 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,033 {\an8}And if you indicated that you had a police report, 507 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:33,433 I'd like to look at it. 508 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:36,800 Yes, ma'am. Here is the police report. 509 00:22:37,767 --> 00:22:41,400 And actually, it, um, the harassment had started... 510 00:22:41,467 --> 00:22:42,867 Just one second. 511 00:22:45,033 --> 00:22:47,333 As far as this police report you gave me, 512 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,533 the only thing that's complained about here, 513 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,233 really, from your end initially, was the fact that 514 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:57,233 your son's tax money was put in her bank account by mistake. 515 00:22:57,300 --> 00:22:58,934 It was something entirely different, 516 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,500 because he doesn't have the evidence that he needs with that. 517 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,934 I'm telling you what the document is 518 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 that you handed me as evidence of harassment. 519 00:23:09,066 --> 00:23:13,000 And the document that you handed me as evidence of harassment, 520 00:23:13,066 --> 00:23:17,166 the focal point of it is, last week, his-- 521 00:23:17,233 --> 00:23:19,200 that's his-- tax return got deposited. 522 00:23:19,266 --> 00:23:21,700 Alesha withdrew all the money from the account, 523 00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:25,700 and this included $1,500 from the tax return 524 00:23:25,767 --> 00:23:28,333 and a thousand dollars that was in the account. 525 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,633 That was the crux of your complaint against her. 526 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,166 Well, that's not harassment. 527 00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:38,700 Well, the harassment had started on April 27th, 528 00:23:38,767 --> 00:23:41,200 which is, like, a month after those two had broken up. 529 00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:42,567 It was a really nasty thing. 530 00:23:42,633 --> 00:23:43,834 I don't know, like it says in there, 531 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:47,433 I don't know if it's coincidental, but she sped through a red-- 532 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:49,734 or a yellow light, almost hit me once. 533 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600 Her boyfriend had been a total nuisance in my parking lot, 534 00:23:52,667 --> 00:23:53,834 blowing the horn. 535 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:55,533 Listen to me very carefully. 536 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,000 If you feel as if you are the subject of harassment, 537 00:23:59,066 --> 00:24:01,033 file for a protective order. 538 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:02,133 Do you understand? 539 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,900 - Yes, ma'am. - Okay, good. 540 00:24:03,967 --> 00:24:08,133 The defendant owes your co-plaintiff 858. 541 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,967 - Thank you. - [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 542 00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:15,900 {\an8}I was very nice to them, and they just disregarded all of that. 543 00:24:15,967 --> 00:24:19,333 {\an8}She's very upset because my son no longer dates her. 544 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,233 {\an8}There was drugs involved 545 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:23,934 {\an8}where she couldn't get an apartment on her own. 546 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,767 {\an8}I pay my own rent. I pay my own bills. I just have bad credit. 547 00:24:26,834 --> 00:24:28,400 {\an8}And it's not even a drug-related thing. 548 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,900 {\an8}I was nice and put their apartment in my name, and that didn't matter to them. 549 00:24:31,967 --> 00:24:34,600 {\an8}She's a thief. I mean, those tickets were meant for my wedding, 550 00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:36,100 {\an8}and she used them for something else. 551 00:24:36,166 --> 00:24:39,200 {\an8}Doesn't matter if you're nice or not. Give it back. 552 00:24:40,066 --> 00:24:41,700 I wish they were all that simple. 553 00:24:41,767 --> 00:24:44,166 [laughs] Yeah, I mean, from reading the papers, 554 00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:47,700 I could tell there was some more conflict than I think we got into, 555 00:24:47,767 --> 00:24:51,066 but none of that underlying conflict between any of the parties 556 00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:53,133 had anything to do with the facts of the case, 557 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,934 that she used someone else's credit card. 558 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,367 She received a benefit that she did not pay for, 559 00:24:58,433 --> 00:25:00,600 - and they were entitled to it. - Easy. 560 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:02,133 - Yeah, easy. - Easy. 561 00:25:03,734 --> 00:25:07,233 {\an8}[announcer] Are you a victim of a scam? - Go to JudyJustice. - TV. 562 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:12,133 {\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]