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It's one o'clock in the morning,
and you're on your way home.
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And...?
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I seen, like, a dog. I swerved.
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You go into a house.
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She went through two walls.
What were you drinking?
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Two beers.
The dog that I swerved to hit,
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she seen the dog as well.
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[announcer]
This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]
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{\an8}Whitney Shepherd is suing motorist
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{\an8}Rachel Velasquez for property damage.
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[Kevin] Court come to order.
All rise.
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Have a seat, everyone.
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{\an8}Hello, Judge. Case 2098,
Shepherd versus Velasquez.
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{\an8}- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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Okay, Ms. Velasquez,
I'm going to start with you
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{\an8}because the case is unusual
and the case really starts with you.
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- You were driving your car.
- Correct.
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And had an accident
on the 13th of February of this year.
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- Right.
- Tell me about it.
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I was going west on...
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- You were driving?
- I was driving. I was driving.
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First, at what time
did this take place?
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It happened about one a.m.
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- Where were you coming from?
- From my sister's home.
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- Anybody else in the car with you?
- No.
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What day of the week was February 13th?
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That was on a Saturday.
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So you were at some sort of
a gathering at your sister's house?
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I was at my sister's house, yes.
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How many people were at the gathering?
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{\an8}There was just about maybe ten of us.
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{\an8}And what time had you arrived
at your sister's house?
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Saturday at midmorning.
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- Did you have dinner there?
- Yes.
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Any alcohol served all day?
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Yes.
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- What kind?
- Just a beer.
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Just a... beer.
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- I wasn't there.
- [chuckles] A beer.
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My invitation got lost in the mail.
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What were you drinking?
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I, uh, drank two beers,
but again, mind you,
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This was, and... it was at the afternoon.
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Just a second.
So you had two beers?
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Yes.
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Now, you get into the car,
it's one o'clock in the morning,
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and you're on your way home.
And...?
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Let's hear what happened.
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Okay.
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Traveling from your sister's house,
maybe I'll make this easier for you.
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How far a distance is it
from your sister's house to your house?
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About twenty minutes.
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And how far into the trip
did this accident occur?
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Like fifteen minutes.
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- And tell me about the accident.
- Okay, so, I was about to...
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I seen, like, a dog
or something in the street.
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- So, as soon as I seen it...
- Just a second.
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So it's one o'clock in the morning,
you see something in the street.
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That's what you said.
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Okay, well, it was... it was something,
but it turned out to be a dog.
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{\an8}- So what did you do?
- I swerved to not hit the dog.
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{\an8}[Judge Judy]
Swerve to not hit the something,
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{\an8}[defendant]
But it was a dog.
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[Judge Judy] Well, we're going
to get to how you know that.
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So you swerved
to avoid hitting the something,
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and you went into a house,
went over a fire hydrant.
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The fire hydrant actually...
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when I hit the fire hydrant,
the fire hydrant pushed me into the house.
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Fire hydrant, water.
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And you went into the house.
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The force of the fire hydrant
didn't send you into the house, madam,
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unless you're telling me
that the fire hydrant went
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and the water was such force
that it pushed your car into the house.
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{\an8}Which I won't believe.
Do you understand?
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{\an8}So you swerved
to avoid something in the road
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{\an8}and were clearly going
at such a speed
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that you went right into a house.
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Did you go through the wall of the house?
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{\an8}- That's either a yes or a no.
- Yes.
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{\an8}And that's what this case is about,
because Ms. Shepherd
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is a renter in that house,
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and she says that everything
of value that she had
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was destroyed because of
the water and inundation.
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And your automobile insurance company
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{\an8}paid the owner of the house
for the damage to the house,
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{\an8}but did not compensate
Miss Shepherd for any of her property
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that was destroyed.
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- That's what the case is about.
- Right.
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[Judge Judy] So now this dog
becomes sort of interesting.
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- You have a dog?
- I do.
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Now, you say that you swerved
to avoid a something
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that you subsequently said was a dog.
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Now, you're in the house
because that's where the car is.
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I assume that they had
to get you out of the car,
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or did you get out of the car on your own?
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Yeah, my car was not in the house,
but I didn't--
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I was out of-- I was out of the car.
I got out by myself.
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Do you have photographs of the house?
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- [plaintiff] I do.
- I'd like to take a look at them.
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Oh, that's pretty much in the house.
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[plaintiff]
Yeah. She went through two walls.
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[Judge Judy] Yeah.
Do you know how much money
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your insurance company
paid out to the homeowner?
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- Five thousand.
- [Judge Judy] Five thousand?
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- Is this your car?
- Yes.
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And this is where it landed?
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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Now, you got out of the car,
and what did you do?
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I got out of the car. My sister,
she was there-- she was there, too.
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What do you mean
your sister was there too?
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She was following right behind me
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'cause she's the one, Louise--
she had seen the dog that--
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the dog that I swerved to hit,
she seen the dog as well.
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[laughing]
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I'm talking to you.
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You got out of the car and...
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My sister-- I went to go walk
to get my sister,
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and we waited for the ambulance
to get-- to get there.
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- For whom?
- For me.
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- What was wrong with you?
- I had three broken ribs.
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Where did you wait for the ambulance?
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Um, right in front of the house.
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Now tell me about the dog.
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The dog, I... right when I...
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right when the car came to the stop,
I seen the dog run back into the yard.
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[Judge Judy] Yeah. So...
[soft chuckle]
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You're crashing
into the front of the house.
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Your eyes are in front of you.
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You're crashing into a house.
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You take down the whole wall
when you crashed into the house,
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and what you're telling me
is you crashed into the house,
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and out of what kind of vision...?
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You went through a wall.
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How did your eyes get to the backyard?
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You swerve. You go into--
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Either you swerve because
there's something in the road,
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or you swerve because
you weren't paying attention,
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or you swerve
because the beers that you had
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were too late in the day.
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Whatever the reason that you swerved,
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but now you're facing
the inside of a house.
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I want to know at what point
you saw a dog run to the backyard.
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Well, the-the car wasn't--
I didn't hit head on.
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It was on the side.
It was on the-- on the-- the left side--
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The right side.
It was on the right side.
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So, when I hit,
everything went to the right side.
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I didn't hit it straight on,
head forward.
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This is your car.
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[defendant] I didn't--
I did not hit straight, head on.
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[Judge Judy]
This is your car.
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So you're telling me
your car was damaged before?
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- No, ma'am.
- Okay.
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Now I'd like you to tell me,
Ms. Shepherd,
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{\an8}I'm sure you have a list of things
that were destroyed.
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{\an8}- You did not have renters insurance?
- I did not.
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{\an8}And what happened
when you submitted a claim
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{\an8}to Ms. Velasquez's insurance company?
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Absolutely nothing.
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- They never even got back to me on it.
- Okay.
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I'd like to see proof
that your insurance company
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paid the owner of the house.
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- I don't have that on me.
- You have your insurance card here?
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- Yes.
- Good, I'd like to see it.
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Did you make a claim?
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I did. I did. The day on February 14th.
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Who owns this car?
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- I do.
- What kind of car were you driving?
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- It's a 2017 Honda Accord.
- Did they pay to have your car fixed?
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- No.
- Did they cover it at all?
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You had a $500 deductible for collision.
Did they pay for your car?
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- No.
- You have medical records?
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- No, I didn't bring them.
- Did the police respond to the location?
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- Yes.
- Were you given a blood alcohol test
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or a breathalyzer test at the scene?
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- No.
- Do you have a police report?
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- I do.
- I'd like to take a look at it.
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Okay. Arrived at the scene
at 2:30 in the morning.
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(reading) "This was determined
to be a solo vehicle crash
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with minor injuries
involving an impaired driver."
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That impaired driver would be you,
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because she wasn't driving her house.
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Now, Ms. Velasquez, not good form
when the police reports--
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Do you see the police report?
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- Have you seen the police report?
- Yes.
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Okay, so you know
the police report found
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{\an8}that you were impaired
at the time of the accident.
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{\an8}It also indicates that the police officer
immediately after the accident,
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questioned you on a gurney
in the hospital.
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That was immediately after this happened.
I'm going to read what it says.
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"Party one, Velasquez,
was riding her Honda
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at 55 miles per hour
while under the influence."
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It says at the time of your
statement, party one, that's you--
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states, "She attempted to turn left
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because she was heading
to her mother's house,
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but did not recall how she crashed."
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I certainly don't see
anything about a dog here,
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only an impaired driver.
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And then later you told
this police officer
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that you admitted drinking
three beers earlier at home.
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Police officer said he asked you
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whether you felt the effects
of alcohol drinks,
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to which you replied yes.
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"The officer conducted
a limited number of field sobriety tests
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at the hospital,
which Party One failed to perform.
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Party One's subject to signs
and symptoms of intoxication."
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- And you were placed under arrest.
- No, ma'am.
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Yeah. "I placed Party One"--
that's you-- "under arrest for DUI."
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{\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]
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This police officer
determined that you were drunk,
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and this police report
has absolutely nothing
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about a dog causing the accident.
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It has you saying,
"I don't know what caused the accident."
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Yes.
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[announcer]
And later today...
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I don't understand
what the issue is.
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She paid for the tickets.
You did not.
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- But you used the vouchers.
- I did.
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Well, then she's entitled to be
compensated for what she paid.
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I mean, I don't know.
This is not rocket science.
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Am I missing something here?
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{\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]
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{\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]
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{\an8}[announcer] Whitney Shepherd
claims motorist Rachel Velasquez
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{\an8}owes for property and water damage
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after Rachel's car
ran over a fire hydrant
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and crashed into Whitney's home.
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Something just came through my house.
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My house exploded.
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I'm stuck in here.
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I don't know what's going on.
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There is a car in my house.
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Oh my god.
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They hit the fire hydrant.
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They went through... through my house.
I no longer have a house.
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Okay. Did you receive a citation?
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No, I did not.
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- You didn't?
- No, ma'am.
239
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- Really?
- No.
240
00:10:47,066 --> 00:10:50,500
Well, then you want me
to assume that the police officer
241
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said that he placed you under arrest--
242
00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:55,367
and I can understand why they
didn't remove you from the hospital--
243
00:10:55,433 --> 00:10:57,934
that you were subsequently
given a citation,
244
00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,200
but you had to receive some sort
of citation from the police,
245
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madam, unless you have
medical records
246
00:11:05,433 --> 00:11:08,433
which indicate
that the blood that they drew
247
00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:10,767
indicated that there was
no alcohol in your system
248
00:11:10,834 --> 00:11:13,800
because this police officer
determined that you were drunk.
249
00:11:13,867 --> 00:11:16,100
And this police report
has absolutely nothing
250
00:11:16,166 --> 00:11:18,166
about a dog causing the accident.
251
00:11:18,233 --> 00:11:21,800
It has you saying, "I don't know
what caused the accident."
252
00:11:22,467 --> 00:11:23,467
Yes.
253
00:11:23,533 --> 00:11:25,767
- Okay. Miss Shepherd?
- Yes.
254
00:11:25,834 --> 00:11:30,300
The defendant is responsible for
the damages done to your property,
255
00:11:30,367 --> 00:11:34,200
and so I've seen the extent
of this damage done to the house.
256
00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:38,934
Were you able to stay in
the house subsequent to this crash?
257
00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,800
- No.
- Where did you go?
258
00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:44,934
I got relocated to Corona.
I'm renting a room in Corona.
259
00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,233
And had you been
renting the whole house?
260
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Yes, yes.
261
00:11:48,433 --> 00:11:50,467
- For how long?
- Ten years.
262
00:11:50,533 --> 00:11:54,033
- And what was your rent on the house?
- $715 a month.
263
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And in the ten years that you lived there,
you accumulated all your stuff?
264
00:11:58,467 --> 00:12:01,567
{\an8}Well, that and time before I lived there.
But, yes.
265
00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:03,066
{\an8}- But for ten years.
- For ten years.
266
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Were you able to take
any of your furniture?
267
00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:09,500
I got three pieces of furniture,
which included my mattress.
268
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- It was okay?
- It was okay.
269
00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,200
Okay.
270
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And I got, uh, an armoire
271
00:12:16,467 --> 00:12:19,066
that is ruined at the bottom
from the water,
272
00:12:19,133 --> 00:12:21,734
and a dresser that was ruined
from the water.
273
00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,233
The rest of the furniture in the house,
did it belong to you?
274
00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:25,734
- It did.
- Okay.
275
00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,266
So you had table, chairs, eating.
276
00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:30,166
Table and chairs, no couch.
277
00:12:30,233 --> 00:12:33,767
It was a small house, four--
457 square feet.
278
00:12:33,834 --> 00:12:35,567
What about your clothes?
279
00:12:35,633 --> 00:12:39,100
{\an8}I have not seen my clothes
since the day the accident happened.
280
00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:43,166
Did the water infiltrate the house
as a result of the fire hydrant?
281
00:12:43,233 --> 00:12:46,900
Yes. I was trapped in that house
for four and a half hours.
282
00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:50,934
Me and my dog were trapped in
the house for four and a half hours.
283
00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,834
My dog was in bed with me, sleeping.
284
00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:57,233
When you left to rent this room,
did you take anything with you?
285
00:12:57,300 --> 00:12:59,166
Well, the night the accident happened,
286
00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:01,200
when I was trapped
for four and a half hours,
287
00:13:01,266 --> 00:13:04,700
I-I was hiding
because the fire hydrant was
288
00:13:04,767 --> 00:13:06,767
throwing big rocks onto the roof,
289
00:13:06,834 --> 00:13:08,667
and I thought the whole house
was coming down.
290
00:13:08,734 --> 00:13:11,200
But I kept coming out
and filling a backpack
291
00:13:11,266 --> 00:13:13,633
with things my grandchildren
had given me
292
00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:15,200
and pictures of my grandchildren.
293
00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:18,133
I didn't even think to take
clothes or anything out.
294
00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,867
And you went right there to
someplace where you were relocated?
295
00:13:20,934 --> 00:13:22,700
- Or did you go to a relative's?
- Yeah, I was relocated immediately.
296
00:13:22,767 --> 00:13:27,934
It was red-tagged, and it took
68 days to get a yellow tag
297
00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,700
so I could hire a company.
298
00:13:29,767 --> 00:13:33,433
Do you know how much the landlord
got for the damage on this house?
299
00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,900
She had insurance,
and she's rebuilding right now.
300
00:13:36,967 --> 00:13:40,834
- So she had her own insurance?
- She had her own insurance, yeah.
301
00:13:41,500 --> 00:13:43,834
Okay. Ms. Velasquez,
there's no question in my mind
302
00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:46,600
that your mind is fresher
at the time of the incident
303
00:13:46,667 --> 00:13:49,066
than it is months and months later
304
00:13:49,133 --> 00:13:52,700
when you've had a chance to reflect on
why an accident is not your fault.
305
00:13:52,767 --> 00:13:56,600
You were questioned by police officers
immediately after the incident.
306
00:13:56,667 --> 00:13:58,934
You responded, actually,
to the police officers
307
00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,333
and told them what happened,
308
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,433
and told them that you crashed
and you didn't know why.
309
00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:04,867
The police officers
observed your demeanor.
310
00:14:04,934 --> 00:14:07,667
They determined that
you were operating a vehicle
311
00:14:07,734 --> 00:14:09,567
under the influence of alcohol.
312
00:14:09,633 --> 00:14:11,934
{\an8}I don't know whether
you have insurance or not.
313
00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,934
{\an8}I don't know whether you had insurance
on the date of the incident or not,
314
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,266
but by your careless
and reckless behavior,
315
00:14:18,333 --> 00:14:20,734
you've turned this lady's life
upside down.
316
00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,800
She had a little life in a little house
317
00:14:23,867 --> 00:14:25,700
where she had all of her property,
318
00:14:25,767 --> 00:14:28,300
and you've turned her life
totally upside down.
319
00:14:28,367 --> 00:14:31,200
She has nothing,
and you're responsible for that.
320
00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:32,667
So if you had no insurance
321
00:14:32,734 --> 00:14:35,200
or if the insurance disclaimed,
that would be your problem.
322
00:14:35,266 --> 00:14:38,200
Judgment for the plaintiff
in the amount requested, $10,000.
323
00:14:38,266 --> 00:14:39,266
We're finished.
324
00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:41,367
- Thank you, Your Honor.
- [Kevin] This court is adjourned.
325
00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000
{\an8}I think it was the correct decision,
326
00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:48,967
{\an8}as it really could be the only decision.
327
00:14:49,033 --> 00:14:51,934
{\an8}I remember seeing the dog
run through,
328
00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,767
{\an8}and-- but, yeah, it was just--
it was an accident.
329
00:14:53,834 --> 00:14:56,433
{\an8}I thought my house exploded,
and I was in a house
330
00:14:56,500 --> 00:14:58,867
{\an8}that was going to come down with my dog.
331
00:14:58,934 --> 00:15:00,300
{\an8}Luckily, I didn't hurt anybody.
332
00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:02,433
{\an8}I think anybody
who would drink and drive
333
00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:05,834
{\an8}isn't willing to take responsibility
for their actions.
334
00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:09,433
You know,
sometimes you're the windshield
335
00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:11,266
and sometimes you're a bug.
336
00:15:11,333 --> 00:15:14,300
- Sometimes you're both.
- As in this case.
337
00:15:14,367 --> 00:15:17,767
That's really a trick.
I have no idea what that insurance is.
338
00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:21,500
A lot of fine print, I'm feeling,
was probably the issue.
339
00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,700
Yeah. But I cannot imagine
if it was legitimate insurance.
340
00:15:24,767 --> 00:15:26,400
And she had legitimate insurance,
341
00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:30,433
except that she's got a $10,000 maximum
on any sort of collision,
342
00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:31,900
so I know what it is.
343
00:15:31,967 --> 00:15:33,867
I actually feel sorry for that lady,
don't you?
344
00:15:33,934 --> 00:15:37,266
Me too. Everything in 500 square feet,
in a home that she's built.
345
00:15:37,333 --> 00:15:39,233
Where she's comfortable.
She was comfortable in...
346
00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:40,867
- No, exactly.
- And she has nothing.
347
00:15:40,934 --> 00:15:42,400
And I didn't see
a whole bunch of remorse there.
348
00:15:42,467 --> 00:15:44,066
Nope. Me either.
349
00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:45,834
Case number 2033,
350
00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:48,133
Broussard/Fierro versus Stigney.
351
00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,033
All parties, please step forward.
352
00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:53,433
{\an8}[announcer] Tammi Broussard
and Catherine Fierro
353
00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:56,233
{\an8}are suing 21-year-old Alesha Stigney
354
00:15:56,300 --> 00:15:59,100
for travel vouchers and harassment.
355
00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:03,734
Whose son was it
who was living with the defendant?
356
00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,800
My son.
357
00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:07,300
Broad strokes, what I get from this--
358
00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:08,867
- Is that your son?
- Yes, ma'am.
359
00:16:08,934 --> 00:16:12,333
Your son became involved,
according to you, with the defendant?
360
00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,166
She has one child with your son
and one child with someone else?
361
00:16:17,233 --> 00:16:18,233
Yes, ma'am.
362
00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:21,400
When I gather, there was a time
that everybody was happy living together.
363
00:16:21,467 --> 00:16:26,266
And I believe it was your brother
who was getting married in Las Vegas?
364
00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:27,333
Yes, ma'am.
365
00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,800
And the defendant at that time
was put in charge
366
00:16:29,867 --> 00:16:33,333
of ordering the plane tickets
for everyone to go,
367
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,066
but the defendant was told
to use someone else's credit card.
368
00:16:37,133 --> 00:16:39,633
- And who is that?
- That's Catherine Fierro.
369
00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:41,200
- That was Ms. Fierro?
- Yes.
370
00:16:41,266 --> 00:16:44,533
- Ms. Fierro is whom?
- I'm the fiancée to her brother.
371
00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,633
In any event, the wedding did not
come off as planned in Las Vegas.
372
00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:52,900
Parties did not use the flight tickets
that you had booked
373
00:16:52,967 --> 00:16:54,467
with someone else's credit card?
374
00:16:54,533 --> 00:16:55,533
Correct.
375
00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,934
And you were given travel vouchers,
and that's what they're suing for.
376
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,066
They want their travel vouchers.
377
00:17:01,233 --> 00:17:05,233
That's it. So I just have a few questions.
It's not a very difficult case.
378
00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:10,000
When you booked the flights for everyone,
how many tickets did you book?
379
00:17:10,066 --> 00:17:13,133
{\an8}It was myself, my 4-year-old.
380
00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,800
{\an8}The infant was a lap,
so she would not count.
381
00:17:15,867 --> 00:17:17,700
{\an8}- And your boyfriend?
- At the time, yes.
382
00:17:17,767 --> 00:17:20,000
- [Judge Judy] Yes.
- And then it was also Tammi Broussard,
383
00:17:20,066 --> 00:17:22,266
her daughter, and that was all.
384
00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:25,266
Whose credit card did you
pay for those tickets with?
385
00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:26,800
- It was Cat's.
- That's you?
386
00:17:26,867 --> 00:17:28,667
- Yes.
- And did you pay for those tickets?
387
00:17:28,734 --> 00:17:30,600
{\an8}They were put on my credit card,
yes, they were, Your Honor.
388
00:17:30,667 --> 00:17:32,967
{\an8}Did you in fact pay for them,
is my question.
389
00:17:33,033 --> 00:17:34,734
{\an8}- Yes.
- I'd like to see proof
390
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,934
that you paid for their flights,
391
00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,734
and if you have, the following
month's bill as well.
392
00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,467
Did you ever receive
a credit for those flights?
393
00:17:40,533 --> 00:17:41,433
- No, I did not.
- On your credit...
394
00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:45,100
{\an8}I did not know what happened
until I asked the, um, son,
395
00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:48,266
{\an8}the flight, the airline, to send me this.
396
00:17:48,333 --> 00:17:49,333
- I'd like to see it.
- Here you go.
397
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,266
[Judge Judy]
Because it's still on your credit card?
398
00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:52,467
- Yes.
- Okay.
399
00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:58,433
Okay, so you received vouchers,
according to this,
400
00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:01,567
that totaled little over
a thousand dollars.
401
00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:03,400
- Yes.
- What did you do with them?
402
00:18:03,467 --> 00:18:06,433
- I did use them.
- Just a second.
403
00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,767
- You didn't pay for the tickets?
- Correct.
404
00:18:08,834 --> 00:18:11,934
So my question is, why didn't you
turn the vouchers over
405
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,700
to the people
who actually paid for the tickets?
406
00:18:14,767 --> 00:18:16,500
{\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]
407
00:18:16,567 --> 00:18:18,900
You booked the tickets
but didn't pay for them.
408
00:18:18,967 --> 00:18:20,667
Wedding got canceled
because of COVID.
409
00:18:20,734 --> 00:18:22,967
You got vouchers for what she paid for,
410
00:18:23,033 --> 00:18:25,667
and you used them without any agreement.
411
00:18:25,734 --> 00:18:28,400
What is the issue here?
Am I missing something?
412
00:18:28,467 --> 00:18:29,934
{\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]
413
00:18:33,033 --> 00:18:35,600
{\an8}[♪ dramatic music plays]
414
00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:42,800
{\an8}[announcer] Tammi Broussard
and Catherine Fierro
415
00:18:42,867 --> 00:18:45,500
{\an8}claim 21-year-old Alesha Stigney
416
00:18:45,567 --> 00:18:48,467
owes for travel vouchers
and harassment.
417
00:18:48,533 --> 00:18:50,700
Now, did you discuss
the vouchers with her?
418
00:18:50,767 --> 00:18:55,433
I did not meet her until,
I believe, early February,
419
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,667
when we left Las Vegas
to go to Minnesota.
420
00:18:57,734 --> 00:19:00,900
And shortly after meeting her,
the day that we got there, um,
421
00:19:00,967 --> 00:19:04,266
she called my fiancé,
uh, asked if we could watch the baby.
422
00:19:04,333 --> 00:19:07,066
- No, no, no. You ca--
- But we did have a discussion about it.
423
00:19:07,133 --> 00:19:10,300
Only a discussion with you. I don't
want to hear about any conversation.
424
00:19:10,367 --> 00:19:11,533
Okay, well, I did--
I did bring it up with her.
425
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,767
Well, I'd like you to tell me
what the discussion was.
426
00:19:12,834 --> 00:19:16,700
Well, when we came to walk the--
to watch her baby for the first time,
427
00:19:16,767 --> 00:19:18,967
she went to show me the baby's room,
where the diapers were,
428
00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:22,066
where the wipes are, and she was
running around looking for wipes.
429
00:19:22,133 --> 00:19:24,066
And I said, um,
"I don't want to seem rude,
430
00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:27,967
but you do have the vouchers,
correct, for the wedding?"
431
00:19:28,033 --> 00:19:30,033
They were specifically meant
for my wedding.
432
00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:32,166
And she said she didn't
really have time to talk about it.
433
00:19:32,233 --> 00:19:34,433
She was going out for the weekend,
to Rochester,
434
00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,633
to go out and have fun with her,
so she just left very quickly.
435
00:19:37,700 --> 00:19:39,934
Then we watched the baby a second time,
436
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,100
and I decided to leave a little bit early
to get to the house to watch the baby.
437
00:19:43,166 --> 00:19:45,300
And when we arrived, she was out the door.
438
00:19:45,367 --> 00:19:47,233
So she did not want to talk
about the vouchers.
439
00:19:47,333 --> 00:19:48,967
That's sort of speculation.
440
00:19:49,033 --> 00:19:51,367
- Yes.
- I don't understand what the issue is.
441
00:19:51,433 --> 00:19:55,300
She paid for the tickets. You did not.
But you used the vouchers.
442
00:19:55,367 --> 00:19:56,367
- I did.
- Well, then she's
443
00:19:56,433 --> 00:19:58,934
entitled to be-- to be compensated
for what she paid.
444
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,166
Your Honor, she also posted
on Facebook trying to sell the tickets.
445
00:20:03,233 --> 00:20:05,867
Well, I mean, I don't know.
This is not rocket science.
446
00:20:05,934 --> 00:20:08,266
Am I missing something here?
447
00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:10,900
You booked the tickets
but didn't pay for them.
448
00:20:10,967 --> 00:20:12,767
Wedding got canceled
because of COVID.
449
00:20:12,834 --> 00:20:15,066
You got vouchers for what she paid for,
450
00:20:15,133 --> 00:20:16,567
- and you used them...
- Yes.
451
00:20:16,633 --> 00:20:17,667
...without any agreement.
452
00:20:17,734 --> 00:20:20,033
What is the issue here?
Am I missing something?
453
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,066
- I don't think so.
- Would you tell me?
454
00:20:23,133 --> 00:20:27,333
Yes. So, back last year,
I have the agreement.
455
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,066
It was sometime, I think, June or July.
456
00:20:29,133 --> 00:20:32,033
Tammi moved to Minnesota,
or to Austin.
457
00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:34,467
Don't go off on a tang--
Listen to me.
458
00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:38,233
Her apartment is in my name
because she couldn't put it in her name.
459
00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:39,734
Okay.
460
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,734
So they said because later in February,
461
00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:47,767
Cat had now moved into
Tammi's apartment with Tammi.
462
00:20:47,834 --> 00:20:49,767
- That is in my name.
- Okay.
463
00:20:49,834 --> 00:20:52,266
As a thank-you, they had said
that they did not want
464
00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:53,934
the vouchers back that I could use,
465
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,266
and they also said that they
were not able to use them
466
00:20:56,333 --> 00:20:58,300
before they expired in October
of this year.
467
00:20:58,367 --> 00:21:00,433
- That is not true, Your Honor.
- What do you mean, "They said"?
468
00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,166
Those are two people.
469
00:21:02,233 --> 00:21:03,867
Yes, Tammi and Cat.
470
00:21:03,934 --> 00:21:08,934
I had ran into Cat at Walmart
sometime... late March, I think it was,
471
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,533
after me and the--
Roman had broke up.
472
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,033
- Whatever his name is. Roman?
- Roman.
473
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,200
[Judge Judy]
"Roman and I broke up."
474
00:21:15,266 --> 00:21:19,166
I'm still trying
to figure out why you didn't
475
00:21:19,233 --> 00:21:21,700
give her the vouchers
when you got them.
476
00:21:21,767 --> 00:21:23,433
We were still together,
me and Roman.
477
00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:24,934
We were planning on
taking a trip this year.
478
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,333
{\an8}What difference does it make?
479
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,133
{\an8}Were you supposed to pay
for the tickets to Vegas?
480
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,533
- No.
- Was that your agreement,
481
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,900
that somebody else
was going to pay for them?
482
00:21:32,967 --> 00:21:34,700
They agreed that they'd pay for them, yes.
483
00:21:34,767 --> 00:21:36,600
- Is that right?
- To come to the wedding.
484
00:21:36,667 --> 00:21:38,000
Not to go anywhere else,
just to the wedding.
485
00:21:38,066 --> 00:21:39,467
To come to the wedding.
But the wedding was cancelled.
486
00:21:39,533 --> 00:21:40,667
- Yes.
- Correct.
487
00:21:40,734 --> 00:21:44,266
And we did not speak at Walmart
about anything about those.
488
00:21:44,333 --> 00:21:46,834
What I have here are two charges,
489
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:50,000
one for 320 and one for 538.
490
00:21:50,066 --> 00:21:52,166
Is that what you spent on the tickets?
491
00:21:52,233 --> 00:21:53,233
- Yes.
- And, ma'am...
492
00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:56,433
I have something
from June 18th on Facebook
493
00:21:56,500 --> 00:22:00,834
where she was trying to sell them
on Facebook, and I had, um...
494
00:22:00,900 --> 00:22:03,967
I actually, Ms. Broussard,
don't understand why you're here.
495
00:22:04,033 --> 00:22:06,767
{\an8}I'm here because
there's also a harassment.
496
00:22:06,834 --> 00:22:08,400
{\an8}We have a police report regarding that.
497
00:22:08,467 --> 00:22:09,467
- Okay.
- As well as she...
498
00:22:09,533 --> 00:22:11,867
Okay, so with regard to your claim,
499
00:22:11,934 --> 00:22:14,934
she owes you $858 for the tickets?
500
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,633
- Yes.
- So that judgment is taken care of.
501
00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:19,033
- You can have a seat.
- Thank you.
502
00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,333
The other part of the claim
is for harassment.
503
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600
Do you want to tell me
when this harassment started?
504
00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:26,900
{\an8}I assume it was after your son
505
00:22:26,967 --> 00:22:29,533
{\an8}and the defendant
terminated their relationship.
506
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,033
{\an8}And if you indicated
that you had a police report,
507
00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:33,433
I'd like to look at it.
508
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:36,800
Yes, ma'am.
Here is the police report.
509
00:22:37,767 --> 00:22:41,400
And actually, it, um,
the harassment had started...
510
00:22:41,467 --> 00:22:42,867
Just one second.
511
00:22:45,033 --> 00:22:47,333
As far as this police report you gave me,
512
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,533
the only thing that's complained
about here,
513
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,233
really, from your end initially,
was the fact that
514
00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:57,233
your son's tax money was
put in her bank account by mistake.
515
00:22:57,300 --> 00:22:58,934
It was something entirely different,
516
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,500
because he doesn't have
the evidence that he needs with that.
517
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,934
I'm telling you what the document is
518
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000
that you handed me
as evidence of harassment.
519
00:23:09,066 --> 00:23:13,000
And the document that you handed me
as evidence of harassment,
520
00:23:13,066 --> 00:23:17,166
the focal point of it is,
last week, his--
521
00:23:17,233 --> 00:23:19,200
that's his-- tax return got deposited.
522
00:23:19,266 --> 00:23:21,700
Alesha withdrew
all the money from the account,
523
00:23:22,266 --> 00:23:25,700
and this included
$1,500 from the tax return
524
00:23:25,767 --> 00:23:28,333
and a thousand dollars
that was in the account.
525
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,633
That was the crux
of your complaint against her.
526
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:33,166
Well, that's not harassment.
527
00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:38,700
Well, the harassment
had started on April 27th,
528
00:23:38,767 --> 00:23:41,200
which is, like, a month
after those two had broken up.
529
00:23:41,266 --> 00:23:42,567
It was a really nasty thing.
530
00:23:42,633 --> 00:23:43,834
I don't know, like it says in there,
531
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:47,433
I don't know if it's coincidental,
but she sped through a red--
532
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:49,734
or a yellow light, almost hit me once.
533
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600
Her boyfriend had been
a total nuisance in my parking lot,
534
00:23:52,667 --> 00:23:53,834
blowing the horn.
535
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:55,533
Listen to me very carefully.
536
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,000
If you feel as if you are
the subject of harassment,
537
00:23:59,066 --> 00:24:01,033
file for a protective order.
538
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:02,133
Do you understand?
539
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,900
- Yes, ma'am.
- Okay, good.
540
00:24:03,967 --> 00:24:08,133
The defendant
owes your co-plaintiff 858.
541
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,967
- Thank you.
- [Kevin] This court is adjourned.
542
00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:15,900
{\an8}I was very nice to them,
and they just disregarded all of that.
543
00:24:15,967 --> 00:24:19,333
{\an8}She's very upset because
my son no longer dates her.
544
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,233
{\an8}There was drugs involved
545
00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:23,934
{\an8}where she couldn't get
an apartment on her own.
546
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,767
{\an8}I pay my own rent. I pay my
own bills. I just have bad credit.
547
00:24:26,834 --> 00:24:28,400
{\an8}And it's not even a drug-related thing.
548
00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,900
{\an8}I was nice and put their apartment in
my name, and that didn't matter to them.
549
00:24:31,967 --> 00:24:34,600
{\an8}She's a thief. I mean, those tickets
were meant for my wedding,
550
00:24:34,667 --> 00:24:36,100
{\an8}and she used them for something else.
551
00:24:36,166 --> 00:24:39,200
{\an8}Doesn't matter if you're nice or not.
Give it back.
552
00:24:40,066 --> 00:24:41,700
I wish they were all that simple.
553
00:24:41,767 --> 00:24:44,166
[laughs] Yeah, I mean,
from reading the papers,
554
00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:47,700
I could tell there was some more
conflict than I think we got into,
555
00:24:47,767 --> 00:24:51,066
but none of that underlying conflict
between any of the parties
556
00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:53,133
had anything
to do with the facts of the case,
557
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,934
that she used someone else's credit card.
558
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,367
She received a benefit
that she did not pay for,
559
00:24:58,433 --> 00:25:00,600
- and they were entitled to it.
- Easy.
560
00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:02,133
- Yeah, easy.
- Easy.
561
00:25:03,734 --> 00:25:07,233
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562
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:12,133
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