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You felt something hit your car?
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Yes, I saw the car back up into me
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and then she proceeds to leave.
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Because I didn't believe it.
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You weren't sure you hit anything?
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With, uh...
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- I did--
- I did not hit anything.
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[narrator]
This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}♪
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{\an8}[narrator] 17-year-old Bella North
and her mother Angela North
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{\an8}are suing business owner
Heather Olson for car damage.
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[bailiff]
Court to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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Hello, Judge. Case 2092,
North versus Olson.
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- Thank you.
- [bailiff] You're welcome.
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[Judy]
Let me start-- this is your daughter?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Why don't you have a seat
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because you actually weren't
involved nor a witness to the incident.
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- Okay.
- [Judy] Are you the owner of the car?
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- No, ma'am.
- [Judy] Okay, why don't you have a seat.
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Tell me your first name.
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- Bella.
- [Judy] Bella.
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Bella, from what
I gather from reading the papers,
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you and the defendant's daughter
were good friends.
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Yes, still are.
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[Judy] And have been
friends for a very long time.
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So not a very difficult case.
You were going to visit
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Ms. Olson's daughter
Lotus, and according to you,
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you've done that
innumerable times in the past.
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- You were also 17 at the time?
- [Bella] Yes.
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You went to visit Lotus--
trying to find the date in your complaint,
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on April 16th of 2022.
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[Bella] Yes.
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And when you got to the house,
which you had done many many times before,
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according to you,
you parked behind the defendant's car?
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Yes, I did.
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{\an8}Was the defendant in her car
at the time you parked your car?
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{\an8}I did not see the car on
when I pulled up behind it.
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I turned around
for a moment to gather my things to--
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my backpack, my charger, everything.
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I then looked up and I see the car is on.
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I never s-saw anyone.
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- You never saw anyone get in the car?
- [Bella] Yes, exactly.
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Okay. Now could you tell me
what kind of car were you driving?
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A 2001 Honda Accord.
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- [Judy] So a very small car.
- Yes, sedan.
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{\an8}And you were in a large car, Miss Olson?
Your car is a large car?
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- Yes, Your Honor.
- What kind of car is it?
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{\an8}It's a Suburban.
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Now, can you tell me
why you parked behind her car?
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If you parked behind her car,
you were blocking her in?
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Yes, so I parked behind her car
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because Lotus has told me in the past--
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You can't tell me
anything that Lotus told you.
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[Bella]
Okay. I parked behind her car
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so that the driveway to my left was free
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for people to come in and out
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because I am aware that
she does have
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residents in her home and I--
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But that means
that she couldn't get her car out,
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if you were parked right behind her.
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- Correct.
- [Judy] Okay. Now,
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is there parking on the street,
Mrs. Olson?
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- Yes, Your Honor.
- May I see that?
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No. I don't want it to...
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- Thank you.
- May I describe what is in the photo?
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Well, I'm just asking,
is there on street parking here or not?
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It's not laid out, but you're
allowed to park on the street.
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{\an8}We have also additional
parking next door at the neighbors.
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{\an8}They've invited us to park--
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No, you can't
tell me that they invited you.
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I'm just asking whether Miss North
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could have parked someplace else.
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And the answer is she could have.
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It's more convenient to
park behind your Suburban.
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Now, as you turned around
to gather your backpack,
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according to your complaint,
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you felt something hit your car.
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Your 21-year-old car, right?
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- Yes.
- Would you look up 2001 Honda.
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Where did you get the car from?
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I got it from a small dealership
in my town, Sarasota.
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Who purchased it?
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- I did.
- [Judy] For how much?
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- $3,000.
- [Judy] Okay.
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- And you felt something hit your car.
- Yes.
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[Judy] And then you looked up,
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according to what I read,
and you saw the backup lights on.
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Yes. I looked up,
saw the reverse lights on, waited,
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saw the car back up into me,
hit my car, I honk.
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The car stops, the car then continues
to reverse again, hitting my car.
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I honk, I honk, they stop.
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{\an8}I then turn back on my car.
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{\an8}I reverse away so she can get out,
and then she proceeds to leave.
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Okay, and show me what
the damage was to your car?
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Yes, ma'am.
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The Kelley's Blue Book value
is $2,500 to $3,500.
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So right in the range.
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Great.
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What is this a picture of?
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The two scratches and the dent.
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[Judy]
Let me see the whole car.
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I do not have a picture of my whole car.
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Well, that's unfortunate.
I see a scratch.
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I don't know if it's scratch. I see some--
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[Bella] There's a hole towards
the corner of the light
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that was not there before.
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- My whole light is--
- You mean this?
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Mm-hmm. Yup.
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See, where there's a gap in the light--
is supposed to be collided
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- with the bumper, and it's not.
- Mm-hmm.
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[Bella]
It was hit and damaged.
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[Judy] Okay. Did you
see her car when you came out?
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- No, Your Honor.
- She didn't see you.
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So you were in the car, I assume,
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when she pulled up behind you.
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Do you understand?
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So she was in her car,
in her driveway when you pulled up
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in your car and blocked her car in.
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If you had seen her in the car,
would you have parked behind her?
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No.
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So you didn't look to see
whether she was in her car?
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- No.
- [Judy] And she was in her car.
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And her car is high.
You look up, you have a big Suburban.
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You don't expect anybody to be
stupid enough to park behind your car.
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You're in your car already.
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Because clearly she didn't see you
pull up because she was in her car, right?
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Now, I'm going to ask you
because you say you don't remember
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hitting something or you
weren't sure you hit anything.
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Is that your answer that I'm getting?
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With-- my other daughter drove up,
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parked the vehicle, left it running,
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ran inside the house, I ran out
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and, of course,
checked behind me and drove out.
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I asked you a question. You didn't?
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I did not-- I did not hit anything.
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Well, you don't remember hitting anything.
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Correct, Your Honor.
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Yeah, because I don't think
Miss North would have made up this story.
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You had a big car backed out,
and you drove away.
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Did you see her car pull off
when you backed out?
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{\an8}No, Your Honor.
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- You did not?
- No, Your Honor.
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{\an8}When she pulled out,
did she go in the same direction
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as you did or the opposite direction?
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The same direction.
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Okay. Did you see her car
after you pulled out?
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No, Your Honor.
Not until two hours later, when we met.
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Tell me what happened two hours later.
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After returning from my appointment,
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I met Bella at the next door neighbors
where we parked,
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and that's when we examined
each other's vehicles.
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[Judy] Well, did she call you?
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How did you find out that there was
an accusation that you would hit her car?
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Because we met at the designating parking
spots that we've agreed to park at.
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So it was just serendipitous
that you met there at the same time,
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or had you been in communication,
maybe with her or your daughter?
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I was at a brief appointment,
and when I returned home,
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that's where I parked.
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And Bella also parked there
because that is where we--
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Okay. So, when you moved your car,
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after the defendant, according to you,
hit your car,
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- did you park in another spot?
- Yes.
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Did you park in the neighbor's spot?
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I did.
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Okay, so that would indicate to me
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that you were aware
that you were supposed to
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or could if there were other
cars in a park in the neighbor's spot.
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Because otherwise,
I wouldn't park in a neighbor's house.
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So you were aware you could park there?
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I'm never sure when
the neighbors are home or not,
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and I don't feel comfortable
parking at a neighbor's house.
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But you did park in the neighbor's spot.
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{\an8}after this happened on April 16th,
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{\an8}you did not pull back
into Miss Olson's driveway.
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- You pulled into the neighbor spot.
- I did.
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And then you went into the house
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- to visit Lotus, right?
- [Bella] Yes.
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Now, Lotus didn't witness this, I assume.
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No.
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When you met in the neighbor's spot,
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did you show Ms. Olson the damage?
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I did. We didn't meet there.
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We met outside of her house
as I was leaving Lotus's house
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and she was going in.
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I confronted her about it and then--
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Tell me what you
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{\an8}Tell me what you said to her.
That's the question.
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{\an8}I said, "Are you aware
that you hit something earlier?
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{\an8}That was my car.
Do you want to go check it out?"
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{\an8}Is that the conversation
that you had with her outside?
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{\an8}No, Your Honor.
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{\an8}Are you trying to tell me
that it happened earlier in the year
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{\an8}and your dogs just found the hole?
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They had never been out before?
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{\an8}Is that what you're trying to tell me?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Oh, I don't believe that, sir.
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{\an8}[narrator] 17-year-old Bella North
and her mother, Angela North,
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{\an8}claimed business owner
Heather Olson owes for car damage.
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Okay, tell me what you
said when you say you confronted her.
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- Heather knew that she--
- [Judy] Don't tell me what she knew.
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- [Bella] Okay.
- Tell me what you said to her.
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That's the question.
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I said, "Are you aware
that you hit something earlier?
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That was my car.
Do you want to go check it out?"
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- [Judy] And she said?
- "Yes, of course."
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- [Judy] And?
- [Bella] And then she did.
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She said, "Okay, the damage
will probably be at least $600."
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And then she told me to go
to an auto body shop, which I did,
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and she told me to get an estimate,
which I did, and that was that.
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[Judy] Okay. Is that the conversation
that you had with her outside?
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No, Your Honor.
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Tell me your version of the
conversation that you had with her.
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- Will you acknowledge that you met her?
- [Heather] Yes.
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When Bella and I met outside,
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she came at me accusing me
of hitting her vehicle.
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- [Judy] No-- [stammers]
- Sorry.
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Tell me what she
said to you and you said to her.
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She did say that I hit her vehicle
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and asked me to look at
her vehicle damage.
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Immediately,
I agreed to go look at both vehicles,
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{\an8}and we looked at both vehicles.
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{\an8}We both took photos of both vehicles.
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There was minor damage
all the way around her vehicle,
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and I could not see any damage on mine,
and I could not underst--
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- [Judy] Just a second.
- Yes.
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- Did you look at her vehicle at that time?
- [Bella] No.
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- Why not?
- We never looked at her vehicle.
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We only looked at mine.
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- Well, she drove in in her vehicle.
- Yes.
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[Judy]
Why wouldn't you look at her vehicle?
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- {\an8}-
- It was about my vehicle.
- [Judy] No.
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{\an8}We were concerned with my damage.
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It was your damage,
but you were contributorily negligent.
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I understand that. Yeah.
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Well, you'd understand that,
so you'd want to look at her vehicle, too?
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Did you ever have a conversation with her
and say to her,
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"Take it to a body shop"?
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- Yes, Your Honor, that is true.
- [Judy] Okay.
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I said, go ahead and see if they
can find any damage
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{\an8}that could have been caused
by an accident like that,
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{\an8}because I didn't... believe it,
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{\an8}and I didn't remember ever hitting her.
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And I thought it would be more like $200.
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Bella did come back
with an invoice for six or $700.
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- And then...
- [Judy] And then?
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that was shocking to me
because I couldn't believe
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that there is any damage just from that.
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So it turned out that the body
work she was going to have done
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was basically her entire bumper
and both headlights,
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- which is... Seems like a lot.
- Which is not the damage
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that even assuming arguendo
that you caused.
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She only showed
me a picture of one headlight.
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- [Heather] Yes, Your Honor.
- Can I see the estimate that you have?
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Do you want all three or
just the one that she--
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[Judy]
What do you want to tell me, Lotus?
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I was a witness to that conversation.
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Oh, I'd like to hear it.
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- [Lotus] Yes.
- Stand up. Move over.
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Are you living at home?
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No longer.
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[Judy] When did you move out?
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I would say the second week of June.
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Did you have a fight with
your mother about this event?
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No, I did not want to get involved.
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Great. Okay. Tell me exactly
what you heard your mother say.
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{\an8}She said, "This is my auto parts place,
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and if you go there,
I will pay for those damages."
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Okay. Do you remember that conversation?
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Basically, that's correct.
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That I said, go to this body work person
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that I know because
I thought he'd see that's silly
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- and turn her away.
- [Judy] Well, okay.
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But your daughter's making a statement.
Is that the statement?
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"Go to my body shop
and I'll take care of it?"
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- Yes.
- Okay, fine.
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Can I see the receipt that makes it...?
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Have a seat, please.
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This says "Customer pay zero,
insurance pay $795."
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In my historical brain of information,
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an estimate from a body shop
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when they believe insurance
is going to pay for it
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is always a little bit inflated.
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- Did you have your car fixed?
- Not yet.
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Not yet. Okay.
You agreed to pay for the damage.
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That's what you agreed to.
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I will tell you, if you had not
agreed to pay for the damage,
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I would find the plaintiff
50% responsible for this accident.
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She was as negligent
as you were in hitting her car,
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and I do believe that you hit her car.
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So absent an agreement by you
to pay for the damage,
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I would actually split
this between the two of you
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and find the plaintiff at
50% contributorily negligent.
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But since you agreed to pay
for the damage,
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and you acknowledge you agreed
to pay for the damage,
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I must rely on this bill, which is $795.
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Judgment for the plaintiff.
Thank you.
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- Thank you.
- [bailiff] Court is adjourned.
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{\an8}I don't think it caused too
much friction as we were never that close.
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{\an8}Still in shock.
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{\an8}Obviously I'm
still close with her daughter,
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{\an8}so it hasn't caused too much friction.
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I agree with your judgment to
give the plaintiff a little bit of money,
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but I'm not so sure on the
contributory negligence reasoning.
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I agree that parking behind
someone's vehicle is never ideal,
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but if you're going to operate
a motor vehicle,
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you have to check your surroundings.
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I think that people
have to be more careful
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- when they're driving.
- You have to be vigilant.
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But, you know,
just because there's an accident
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doesn't mean it has to be
always someone's fault.
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- Sure.
- That's why they invented the doctrine
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of contributory negligence.
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I actually think it was just
lazy of the plaintiff to park in the spot.
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She wasn't paying attention
to her surroundings
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because she didn't see
the defendant in her car.
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The defendant ran into her car,
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didn't see the little car behind.
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I believe that they were
equally responsible,
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but for the agreement
that the defendant made,
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I would not have awarded her
the whole thing.
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I would have awarded her 50%.
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Seem like just a case of blind spots
and bad timing.
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- A bad thing. Yeah, that's true.
- [Sarah chuckles]
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Case 2078, Ali versus Miller.
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All parties please step forward.
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{\an8}[narrator] Syed Ali is suing
dog owner Abraham Miller
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for car damage from a dog attack.
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[Judy]
Mr. Ali, you bought yourself a Tesla.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] A new one?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] When did you buy it?
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- I bought it on 6th of June.
- [Judy] Of this year?
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- Yes.
- How much did you pay for it, sir?
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[Ali] 68.
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[Judy]
And there was a loan on the car?
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There's a loan on the car, yeah.
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[Judy] So you have
full insurance on the car?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] What's your deductible?
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Deductible is $1,000.
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- A thousand.
- [Ali] Yes.
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This is what your case is about.
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You were going to check
on a child's house of yours?
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Yes, ma'am.
It's my son's house.
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I go there every day.
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{\an8}We bought that house for my--
on my son's and my name.
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- {\an8}-
- It's from--
- [Judy] Oh, so it's a house that's
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- jointly owned by you and your son?
- [Ali] Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
But you don't live there regularly?
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- I don't live there.
- And where does Mr. Miller live?
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Uh, he lives on a different street,
but his backyard and my backyard,
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they meet each other in the back.
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How long have you owned that house?
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Since, uh...
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- 2014.
- A long time.
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- Long, yeah.
- Have you met Mr. Miller?
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I met him a few times, yes.
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- Mr. Miller, you recall meeting Mr. Ali?
- Yes, ma'am, once.
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- Okay, but you met him?
- Yes, ma'am.
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- [Judy] Before June 6?
- Yes, ma'am.
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And your son lives in the house.
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Anybody else live in the house?
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You live in the house.
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Is this a tenant in the house?
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- [Ali] She's a tenant.
- Yes.
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- [Judy] Does your son have dogs?
- No.
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- [Judy] And does the tenant have a dog?
- [Ali] She does.
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- [Judy] What kind of dog?
- A Yorkie.
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- You have a Yorkie.
- [woman] Yes.
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- [Ali] It's a small dog.
- [Judy] Yes?
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Yes. [chuckles]
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[Judy]
So you have one Yorkie in the house.
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- And you have two dogs?
- Yes, ma'am.
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- [Judy] What kind?
- A pit bull breed.
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- [Judy] Pit bull?
- Yes, ma'am.
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{\an8}- [Judy] And the other?
- No, both are the same.
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{\an8}[Judy] Both are the same.
One's actually, the mom and the son.
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And how old are they?
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The mom's ten, the son's about eight.
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- [Judy] And you've had them for years?
- Since they were born.
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- So June 16, you go to check on the house.
- Yes.
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[Judy] Tell me what you
saw when you pulled up to the house.
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When I went there to the house
to check my mail, I saw two dogs.
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- Where did you see the dogs?
- I saw them in the porch.
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- [Judy] On your porch?
- Yes.
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Okay. Had you ever seen those dogs before?
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No, I never saw them before.
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Can you describe them for me?
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They're... a big size.
They are black and white.
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And they're...
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One was black and white
or both black and white?
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No, the one is black and white,
and I have some pictures of them.
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- Oh, you took photos?
- [Ali] Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
You took photos of them on the porch
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or initially when you saw them?
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After I saw them, I was walking out,
then I took the picture.
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Okay. May I see the photograph?
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Take out the photographs of your dogs.
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Could you set--
Give me both photographs, please.
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- I see one is black--
- [Ali] And one is white.
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And one is fawn color and white.
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Are these pictures of your dogs?
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Those are pictures of my dogs.
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- [Judy] At his house?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Okay, so now your dogs are out.
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You're not at his house. Just your dogs?
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- Just the dogs.
- Okay, so now I got it.
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So you took pictures of the dogs
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{\an8}- the day of this incident at your house?
- Yes.
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- And these are your dogs?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Okay. Tell me what happened with your car.
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♪
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{\an8}Most states now exclude
certain dogs from their policy.
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{\an8}One that's right on top
of the list are pit bulls.
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{\an8}You are aware of that?
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♪
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♪
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{\an8}[narrator] Syed Ali claims
dog-owner Abraham Miller
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owes for car damage after
his dogs attacked Syed's Tesla.
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Okay.
Tell me what happened with your car.
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Then I realized that I think
maybe I need to get away from them
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because they were
very ferocious and growing.
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And I quietly walked away from them,
go to my car, locked myself in,
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and I said, "I need to get out."
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- So I--
- I saw them. They were jumping
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all around my car and biting everything.
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They were biting-- what?
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{\an8}Biting the right side of the tire,
this side, and the rim and all that.
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What your claim is, is that the dogs
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caused a substantial
amount of damage to your car.
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Right.
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[Judy]
May I see the photographs of the damage?
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Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
So the car had scratches on it, I see.
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And what about the wheel rim?
Is that--?
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You're also showing me
the scratches on the wheel rim?
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Yes, th-they were biting
all the rims and the tire,
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and they went into the
front and bit on the bumper.
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May I see that?
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- Okay. Have you seen the pictures?
- Yes, ma'am.
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He sent you pictures of damage to the car.
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- He sent me some pictures, yes.
- [Judy] Pictures of the damage. Okay.
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So now, Mr. Miller,
what Mr. Ali is saying is
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that your dogs, who he has pictures of,
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- that you acknowledge are your dogs,
- Yes, ma'am.
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caused damage to his car
that he had for a week,
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that he paid almost $70,000 for.
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The dogs were
clearly outside of your control.
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They were out of your control
because you acknowledged
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that the photographs of them are
without collars, without leashes,
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nobody around them,
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and the photographs
are taken at his house.
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I'd like to hear a defense.
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Your Honor, there was no way for my dogs
to have done the damage.
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My dogs are older.
One of them has no teeth.
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We have to put water and stuff
on her food just so she can eat.
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The other dog's teeth are filed down.
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Both of them are up in age.
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My dogs have never harmed anyone.
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I have ten cars of my own in my yard,
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and I've never had my dogs
biting any tires, any damage...
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- [chuckling] Mr. Miller...
- [Miller] Yes, ma'am.
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That's why they call dogs dogs.
466
00:20:21,133 --> 00:20:22,700
- They're animals.
- Yes, ma'am.
467
00:20:22,767 --> 00:20:24,433
[Judy]
Because on one dog,
468
00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:28,900
it looks as if the incisors are
filed down a little bit,
469
00:20:28,967 --> 00:20:31,600
{\an8}still has teeth,
but the incisors are filed down.
470
00:20:31,667 --> 00:20:34,100
{\an8}Is what you're telling me
that that was a natural process
471
00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:35,433
or you had them filed down?
472
00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,600
[Miller] No, ma'am.
Absolutely not. I would never--
473
00:20:37,667 --> 00:20:40,066
- [Judy] Shh. Shh. Absolutely not what?
- Absolutely natural.
474
00:20:40,133 --> 00:20:43,367
Absolutely natural. Okay.
So the dogs still have teeth.
475
00:20:43,433 --> 00:20:47,900
They are smoother rather than sharp,
but they still have teeth.
476
00:20:47,967 --> 00:20:49,734
Okay. But that's why they're dogs.
477
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,567
You weren't there to witness this.
478
00:20:51,633 --> 00:20:55,166
So I have to assume that
what the plaintiff tells me is true,
479
00:20:55,233 --> 00:20:57,800
because his evidence
is consistent with that.
480
00:20:57,867 --> 00:21:00,800
He has photographs of your dogs
481
00:21:00,867 --> 00:21:05,800
outside of your control,
no collar, no leash, at his house.
482
00:21:05,867 --> 00:21:09,767
And he said that he took those
pictures on the date of the incident,
483
00:21:09,834 --> 00:21:11,800
and he has damage to his car.
484
00:21:11,867 --> 00:21:13,834
Now somebody has that problem,
485
00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:16,033
they don't want to blame the wrong person.
486
00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:20,633
And the dogs he's identified
as causing the damage are your dogs.
487
00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:21,900
I'm still waiting for a defense.
488
00:21:21,967 --> 00:21:24,300
You mean the fact that
they've never done it before,
489
00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:26,066
- you think is a defense?
- No, ma'am. I'm not--
490
00:21:26,133 --> 00:21:28,467
[Judy] What were they
doing outside of your control?
491
00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:32,934
They actually got out of my
yard from a previous tenant of his dogs,
492
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,233
that dug a hole up under my gate.
493
00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:39,800
Just a second.
So a previous tenant of his had a dog?
494
00:21:39,867 --> 00:21:41,600
- Had several dogs.
- [Judy] Several dogs.
495
00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:43,066
- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Doesn't live there anymore.
496
00:21:43,133 --> 00:21:46,333
Dug a hole under the fence.
When did that happen?
497
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,500
[Miller]
That was earlier that year.
498
00:21:48,567 --> 00:21:50,600
{\an8}[Judy]
Okay. And when did you first discover it?
499
00:21:50,667 --> 00:21:53,500
{\an8}I didn't realize it
until after this incident.
500
00:21:53,567 --> 00:21:57,133
Are you trying to tell me that it
happened earlier in the year
501
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,100
and your dogs just found the hole?
502
00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:01,033
They had never been out before?
503
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,100
- Is that what you're trying to tell me?
- Yes, ma'am.
504
00:22:03,734 --> 00:22:04,867
Oh, I don't believe that, sir.
505
00:22:04,934 --> 00:22:07,834
You're responsible for his deductible.
Did you have the car fixed?
506
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:09,633
- No, not yet, ma'am.
- [Judy] Why not?
507
00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:12,233
- I--
- I have an estimate, and I approached him of that
508
00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:14,834
and I said, "Let's see if we
can do something about this."
509
00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:16,233
- Mr. Ali.
- [Ali] Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am.
510
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:17,900
- You have insurance?
- [Ali] Yes.
511
00:22:17,967 --> 00:22:21,133
And you have insurance
for this type of problem?
512
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,166
Yes, Judge.
513
00:22:22,233 --> 00:22:24,767
- And you have $1,000 deductible?
- [Ali] Yes, Judge.
514
00:22:24,834 --> 00:22:27,133
[Judy]
Did you advise your insurance company?
515
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,800
I wasn't because I was trying to see
516
00:22:29,867 --> 00:22:32,000
what my good friend neighbor wants to do.
517
00:22:32,066 --> 00:22:33,834
- Do you own your home?
- [Miller] Yes, ma'am.
518
00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:35,700
[Judy]
Do you have homeowners insurance?
519
00:22:35,767 --> 00:22:36,667
Yes, ma'am.
520
00:22:36,734 --> 00:22:39,266
Does the homeowner's
insurance exclude your pit bulls?
521
00:22:39,333 --> 00:22:40,734
Do they exclude them? I'm not sure.
522
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,967
Well, in what state do you live in?
523
00:22:43,033 --> 00:22:44,433
- Florida.
- [Judy] In Florida.
524
00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:48,400
Would you look up and see--
what's the name of your insurance carrier?
525
00:22:48,467 --> 00:22:51,800
{\an8}I'm not sure, Your Honor.
I just switched, um, insurance companies.
526
00:22:51,867 --> 00:22:55,200
{\an8}Well, did you have insurance,
homeowners insurance in June?
527
00:22:55,266 --> 00:22:56,700
- Yes, ma'am. Absolutely.
- [Judy] You did?
528
00:22:56,767 --> 00:23:00,233
Well, did you inform your insurance
company that there was a problem?
529
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:01,333
- [Miller] No, ma'am.
- Why not?
530
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,900
Because I was trying to get an
understanding of what was going on.
531
00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:05,433
[Judy]
I'm just telling you what's going on.
532
00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:09,734
So now you know what's going on.
Your dogs caused damage to his car.
533
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,467
Most states now exclude
certain dogs from their policy.
534
00:23:14,533 --> 00:23:17,834
One that's right on top
of the list are pit bulls.
535
00:23:17,900 --> 00:23:19,900
- You are aware of that?
- Yes, ma'am.
536
00:23:19,967 --> 00:23:21,633
And either you pay a higher premium
537
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,400
or the insurance company
says we're not insuring them.
538
00:23:24,467 --> 00:23:25,667
You do understand that?
539
00:23:25,734 --> 00:23:27,367
- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Okay, so now you understand.
540
00:23:27,433 --> 00:23:30,233
Does your policy exclude your pit bulls?
541
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:31,567
I don't think so. No, ma'am.
542
00:23:31,633 --> 00:23:33,734
Well, I don't know,
and I don't know how to find that out
543
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,633
unless you can give me
a definitive answer, Sarah.
544
00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:36,567
I cannot.
545
00:23:36,633 --> 00:23:37,533
[Judy]
It depends upon the insurance company.
546
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:38,467
It does.
547
00:23:38,533 --> 00:23:40,200
Yeah, and you don't remember
your insurance company.
548
00:23:40,266 --> 00:23:45,000
So, Mr. Ali, he's not paying the $8,000
that it's going to take to fix your car.
549
00:23:45,066 --> 00:23:46,834
That's what you have insurance for.
550
00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:48,900
Okay? But he's going to
pay the deductible.
551
00:23:48,967 --> 00:23:50,066
You have insurance.
552
00:23:50,133 --> 00:23:52,100
It's a brand new car
because you have a loan,
553
00:23:52,166 --> 00:23:54,700
so you must have insurance,
which I'm sure you do.
554
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:55,700
I do.
555
00:23:55,767 --> 00:24:00,200
Then if you were having a difficult
time with Mr. Miller and his insurance,
556
00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:02,767
which I could probably understand,
557
00:24:02,834 --> 00:24:05,500
because it may exclude his dogs
from the policy,
558
00:24:05,567 --> 00:24:07,567
you have to advise your insurance company.
559
00:24:07,633 --> 00:24:09,367
And I don't understand why
you didn't do that.
560
00:24:09,433 --> 00:24:11,900
But I was going to see
if he wants to go ahead and fix it.
561
00:24:11,967 --> 00:24:14,000
[Judy]
Well, he's not paying $8,000 to fix it.
562
00:24:14,066 --> 00:24:16,633
He's going to pay the
$1,000 deductible on your policy.
563
00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:19,166
He was suggesting me that
he could just go
564
00:24:19,233 --> 00:24:21,133
and get his spray paint
and paint that little thing.
565
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,867
- I--
- I didn't like that idea, and I said, "Let's go to Tesla
566
00:24:23,934 --> 00:24:25,600
and have it done by the properly from--
567
00:24:25,667 --> 00:24:27,033
Absolutely. I agree with you.
568
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,100
It's a brand new car.
569
00:24:28,166 --> 00:24:29,567
You should have it done by Tesla...
570
00:24:29,633 --> 00:24:30,900
through your insurance.
571
00:24:30,967 --> 00:24:32,066
- That's true. Yes.
- [Judy] Good.
572
00:24:32,133 --> 00:24:34,800
Judgment for the
plaintiff in the amount of $1,000,
573
00:24:34,867 --> 00:24:35,934
which covers your deductible.
574
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,700
- We're finished.
- [bailiff] This court is adjourned.
575
00:24:37,767 --> 00:24:40,500
{\an8}Animal Control said
my dogs were so loving and peaceful.
576
00:24:40,567 --> 00:24:41,967
{\an8}They showed no aggression to them.
577
00:24:42,033 --> 00:24:44,200
{\an8}I mean, I like to
have people as good neighbors.
578
00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:47,400
{\an8}Even after they put
the--the pole in, um,
579
00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:50,333
{\an8}in the hoop around their necks,
my dogs were wagging their tails.
580
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,300
{\an8}The neighbor's dog has
damaged-- some damage to my car,
581
00:24:53,367 --> 00:24:56,567
{\an8}and I want the neighbor
to be up to that responsibility.
582
00:24:57,266 --> 00:25:00,700
The plaintiff bought a new Tesla
and has a loan on the Tesla.
583
00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:02,700
When you have a loan on a car,
584
00:25:02,767 --> 00:25:06,467
you're required by the lender
to maintain insurance,
585
00:25:06,533 --> 00:25:08,066
both collision and liability.
586
00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:09,600
This is not a malicious act.
587
00:25:09,667 --> 00:25:11,233
- It was a careless act.
- [Sarah] Mm-hmm.
588
00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:13,934
And I think he should use
his insurance to pay for it.
589
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,900
I think it was fair.
I don't think that
590
00:25:15,967 --> 00:25:17,867
- there was an issue of fact, did you?
- [Sarah] No, I didn't.
591
00:25:17,934 --> 00:25:20,900
I think that that was fair because
you have insurance for that purpose
592
00:25:20,967 --> 00:25:23,533
so that you don't have to
pay $8,000 out of pocket
593
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,200
to fix damage from an accident.
594
00:25:25,266 --> 00:25:27,700
- So he should have used it.
- Should have used it.
595
00:25:27,767 --> 00:25:29,233
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596
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597
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598
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599
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