1 00:00:00,367 --> 00:00:02,533 {\an8}You were hired to do some demolition work? 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,333 - {\an8}- - Correct. - You hired an unlicensed contractor 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,166 {\an8}without references, and you got his number 4 00:00:08,233 --> 00:00:09,934 {\an8}from a card that he left on your windshield. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,066 I'm-- I'm not really sure, actually, 6 00:00:12,133 --> 00:00:14,133 a hundred percent on where I found that card. 7 00:00:15,467 --> 00:00:16,934 What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,400 [Announcer] This is "Judy Justice". 9 00:00:36,433 --> 00:00:41,500 {\an8}Michael Attar is suing his former clients, Mary and Michael Rhodes, 10 00:00:41,567 --> 00:00:43,500 {\an8}for unpaid demolition work. 11 00:00:44,967 --> 00:00:46,066 [Kevin] Court come to order. 12 00:00:46,133 --> 00:00:47,600 All rise. 13 00:00:47,667 --> 00:00:48,533 Have a seat, please. 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,266 Hello, Judge. Case 2115, Attar versus Rhodes. 15 00:00:53,333 --> 00:00:55,100 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 16 00:00:55,166 --> 00:00:58,800 Mr. Attar, you were hired to do some, according to you, 17 00:00:58,867 --> 00:01:01,000 demolition work and other work at a property 18 00:01:01,066 --> 00:01:02,834 owned by Mr. and Mrs. Rhodes. 19 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:04,867 You gave them an estimate for that work. 20 00:01:04,934 --> 00:01:07,967 I think the estimate was $11,500. Is that correct? 21 00:01:08,033 --> 00:01:09,667 - Correct. - [Judge Judy] And it was outlined 22 00:01:09,734 --> 00:01:11,633 what work you were supposed to do. 23 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:14,266 You started that work, and according to you, 24 00:01:14,333 --> 00:01:18,734 at some point there was disagreement with either or both of the Rhodes's, 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 and they stopped payment on a check 26 00:01:21,667 --> 00:01:23,266 - that they gave you. - Correct. 27 00:01:23,333 --> 00:01:26,233 {\an8}And the check that they gave you was for $4,200. 28 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:29,467 - {\an8}- - And then you stopped work for them. - Yes, ma'am, we're finished. 29 00:01:29,533 --> 00:01:32,133 {\an8}So, you're suing them for the canceled check 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,567 {\an8}and for other unpaid work that you did, 31 00:01:34,633 --> 00:01:36,133 {\an8}- that you didn't get paid for. - Correct. 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,367 [Judge Judy] Mr. and Mrs. Rhodes say 33 00:01:38,433 --> 00:01:41,266 that they were not satisfied with the quality of your work. 34 00:01:41,333 --> 00:01:46,867 It cost them $9,000 to both replace things that were stolen from their property 35 00:01:46,934 --> 00:01:50,567 by either you or members of your team, 36 00:01:50,633 --> 00:01:53,567 something which I don't think that you question, 37 00:01:53,633 --> 00:01:55,767 that somebody from your team, not you, 38 00:01:55,834 --> 00:01:58,300 somebody from your team, may have taken 39 00:01:58,367 --> 00:02:00,867 metal property of theirs that they didn't own. 40 00:02:00,934 --> 00:02:03,300 So, let's go back. Mr. and Mrs. Rhodes, 41 00:02:03,367 --> 00:02:05,567 is this a new property to you, or is this a property 42 00:02:05,633 --> 00:02:07,567 that you owned for a while? 43 00:02:07,633 --> 00:02:09,433 - It's a new property to us. - [Judge Judy] That's what I thought. 44 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:11,567 - {\an8}- - So, is it a private house? - Uh, yes. 45 00:02:11,633 --> 00:02:13,967 {\an8}And we were, um, remodeling it. 46 00:02:14,033 --> 00:02:14,867 {\an8}[Judge Judy] OK, when did you purchase it? 47 00:02:14,934 --> 00:02:17,400 We purchased in January of 2020. 48 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:18,934 I'm sorry, 2021. 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,333 Is it a single-family residence? 50 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,800 - [Mary Rhodes] Yes. - [Judge Judy] How much did you pay for it? 51 00:02:21,867 --> 00:02:25,433 769,000. 52 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:27,000 Describe the property to me. 53 00:02:27,066 --> 00:02:30,166 It's, uh, in northern Alta Loma or Rancho Cucamonga. 54 00:02:30,233 --> 00:02:33,500 Um, it's an acre property, has, um, two levels on it, 55 00:02:33,567 --> 00:02:36,100 and a single-family, ranch-style home on it 56 00:02:36,166 --> 00:02:39,433 right now. And what we asked him to do 57 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:41,133 was demolition the lower half, 58 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,633 - {\an8}- - Um-- - [Judge Judy] Do you have a photograph? 59 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:44,166 - {\an8}- - I do. - [Judge Judy] I'd like to look 60 00:02:44,233 --> 00:02:46,266 {\an8}at the photograph of what you wanted him to do. 61 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:55,734 [Mary Rhodes] That's what the lower half looked like. 62 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,400 - OK. - Before. 63 00:02:57,467 --> 00:02:59,734 So, this whole portion you wanted him... 64 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,867 - [Mary Rhodes] Correct. - To demolish? 65 00:03:01,934 --> 00:03:03,367 - [Mary Rhodes] To demolish. - And remove the debris? 66 00:03:03,433 --> 00:03:06,333 - And grade flat. - [Judge Judy] Is that correct, sir? 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,633 - I can't see it from here, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] Okay. 68 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:09,633 We're gonna show it to you. 69 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:11,700 To demolish it, flatten it, 70 00:03:11,767 --> 00:03:13,333 fill it in... 71 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,867 - [Mary Rhodes] Remove all the debris. - [Judge Judy] Mm-hmm. 72 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:17,533 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] OK. 73 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,266 And did you have a written contract? 74 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:20,600 We did not. 75 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:22,000 Well, that's always a mistake. 76 00:03:22,066 --> 00:03:24,066 - Always. - [Judge Judy] How did you find him? 77 00:03:24,133 --> 00:03:25,633 {\an8}[Michael Rhodes] I believe I got his business card... 78 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:29,700 {\an8}uh, it was on, uh, my personal car, I think, at Home Depot. 79 00:03:29,767 --> 00:03:33,033 We had bought this house, and we tried to find somebody 80 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:34,533 to do the work, but-- 81 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,867 Mr. Rhodes, let me tell you that the best way to find somebody 82 00:03:36,934 --> 00:03:39,266 is not somebody who leaves a card on your car 83 00:03:39,333 --> 00:03:40,767 - at Home Depot. - Clearly. 84 00:03:40,834 --> 00:03:42,400 - Or anyplace else. - [Michael Rhodes] Yeah. 85 00:03:42,467 --> 00:03:45,066 It was a difficult time to find contractors, with Covid, 86 00:03:45,133 --> 00:03:46,266 and everything, at that time. 87 00:03:46,333 --> 00:03:50,200 And, at the time, also going to it, 'cause I read in the paper 88 00:03:50,266 --> 00:03:52,967 somewhere at the time, he didn't have a license. 89 00:03:53,033 --> 00:03:54,066 [Mary Rhodes] He did not. 90 00:03:54,133 --> 00:03:56,000 - And you knew he didn't have a license. - Yeah. 91 00:03:56,066 --> 00:03:57,667 That's the first thing I told them, Your Honor. 92 00:03:57,734 --> 00:03:59,000 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 93 00:03:59,066 --> 00:04:01,066 They didn't say no, we didn't know. They said we knew. 94 00:04:01,133 --> 00:04:03,700 So, you got somebody who had no license 95 00:04:03,767 --> 00:04:05,500 to do what you wanted him to do. 96 00:04:05,567 --> 00:04:07,133 - Mm-hmm. - [Judge Judy] And you got his number 97 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,400 from a card that he left on your windshield. 98 00:04:09,467 --> 00:04:11,734 - Did you ask for references? - Uh, I-- 99 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,300 - That's either a yes or a no. - [Michael Rhodes] No. 100 00:04:13,367 --> 00:04:14,800 No, and I'm-- 101 00:04:14,867 --> 00:04:16,667 I'm not really sure, actually, a hundred percent 102 00:04:16,734 --> 00:04:18,533 on where I found that card, I think it was-- 103 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,834 - [Judge Judy] It doesn't matter. - Yeah. 104 00:04:19,900 --> 00:04:21,467 But we-- He did tell us he was in the process 105 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:23,266 - of getting his license... - [muttering] 106 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:24,233 [Mary Rhodes] ...that it was coming. 107 00:04:24,300 --> 00:04:25,400 - [Michael Rhodes] Yeah. - [sighs] 108 00:04:25,467 --> 00:04:26,667 - [Mary Rhodes chuckles] - [Michael Rhodes] I know. 109 00:04:26,734 --> 00:04:29,000 What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. 110 00:04:29,066 --> 00:04:30,233 You're two intelligent people, OK. 111 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,900 So you hired an unlicensed contractor to do work on your house 112 00:04:33,967 --> 00:04:36,633 and agreed to pay him $11,500. 113 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:37,934 Now, Mr. Attar, 114 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,400 the $11,000 included labor and materials, is that correct? 115 00:04:42,467 --> 00:04:43,500 There was no material. 116 00:04:43,567 --> 00:04:45,467 - Labor and bins. - [Judge Judy] No mat-- 117 00:04:45,533 --> 00:04:47,900 Well, that's material, labor and bins to remove-- 118 00:04:47,967 --> 00:04:49,400 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judge Judy] All the equipment 119 00:04:49,467 --> 00:04:50,967 - that you needed-- - Yes, ma'am. 120 00:04:51,033 --> 00:04:52,166 [Judge Judy] to complete the job. 121 00:04:52,233 --> 00:04:53,734 - Yes, ma'am, I've got pictures-- - [Judge Judy] Is that correct? 122 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,300 [Michael Attar] of before, too. 123 00:04:55,367 --> 00:04:57,200 Of what I was supposed to do, and I took a picture-- 124 00:04:57,266 --> 00:04:58,934 Well, no-- I have that. 125 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,200 You have the wrong picture, Your Honor. 126 00:05:00,266 --> 00:05:01,600 OK, I'd like to see the picture that he has. 127 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,567 [Michael Attar] I was supposed to do it from the post 128 00:05:07,633 --> 00:05:08,734 all the way to the other post, 129 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,433 - remove everything. - [Judge Judy] OK. 130 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:11,467 And the pool and the deck. 131 00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:14,767 [Judge Judy] Mr. Attar, the $11,500 132 00:05:14,834 --> 00:05:16,500 was an all-inclusive figure. 133 00:05:16,567 --> 00:05:17,767 Yes, Your Honor. 134 00:05:17,834 --> 00:05:21,734 One of the things that became an issue is a Bobcat? 135 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,066 Correct. 136 00:05:23,133 --> 00:05:25,033 [Judge Judy] From what I'm piecing together, 137 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:28,266 you hired somebody in a Bobcat to do-- 138 00:05:28,333 --> 00:05:30,200 a Bobcat, that's a big piece of equipment 139 00:05:30,266 --> 00:05:31,667 that knocks down something. 140 00:05:31,734 --> 00:05:33,133 I rented a Bobcat. 141 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,166 And somebody who operated it? 142 00:05:35,233 --> 00:05:36,333 My worker. 143 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,800 {\an8}[Judge Judy] You didn't know how to operate the Bobcat. 144 00:05:38,867 --> 00:05:40,233 {\an8}I know how to op-- operate Bobcat, 145 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:42,734 {\an8}but I was controlling the demolition site, ma'am. 146 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,200 I was, like, many things was going at the same time, 147 00:05:44,266 --> 00:05:45,600 I had to control everything. 148 00:05:45,667 --> 00:05:48,867 Mr. Attar, something happened with the Bobcat. 149 00:05:48,934 --> 00:05:50,667 The original one that you got. 150 00:05:50,734 --> 00:05:52,800 - What happened with it? - It broke down on us. 151 00:05:52,867 --> 00:05:54,567 No. It didn't break down on them, 152 00:05:54,633 --> 00:05:55,467 it broke down on you. 153 00:05:55,533 --> 00:05:57,133 - On us. - [Judge Judy] It broke down on you. 154 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,667 - Yes. - So, what did you do? 155 00:05:58,734 --> 00:06:00,667 I took it back, and the next day 156 00:06:00,734 --> 00:06:02,166 they were supposed to deliver me another one, 157 00:06:02,233 --> 00:06:04,367 but they sent me a drunk driver and a broken-down, 158 00:06:04,433 --> 00:06:06,367 another broken-down Bobcat, I returned it. 159 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:08,767 At that moment, I asked Mrs. Rhodes, 160 00:06:08,834 --> 00:06:10,767 "Can you please go down-- down Home Depot", 161 00:06:10,834 --> 00:06:13,633 which is, like, a mile away, so we can all stop wasting time, 162 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:15,600 - rent a Bobcat and, uh-- - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 163 00:06:15,667 --> 00:06:17,667 Why should she rent a Bobcat, sir? 164 00:06:17,734 --> 00:06:20,900 Your $11,500 included the Bobcat. 165 00:06:20,967 --> 00:06:23,100 - But I was gonna pay for the Bobcat. - [Judge Judy] No, no, no. 166 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:25,300 If you're gonna pay for it, that's one thing. 167 00:06:25,367 --> 00:06:26,266 Then what are you sending her for? 168 00:06:26,333 --> 00:06:32,200 If your $11,500 figure included all materials, 169 00:06:32,266 --> 00:06:33,900 then she doesn't have to rent a Bobcat. 170 00:06:33,967 --> 00:06:36,066 If you rented one that didn't work, rent one that works. 171 00:06:36,133 --> 00:06:38,367 How much of a down payment did they give you? 172 00:06:38,433 --> 00:06:40,133 It was $4,000. 173 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,400 When did you start the job? 174 00:06:41,467 --> 00:06:43,567 I started the job on... 175 00:06:43,633 --> 00:06:45,700 the 15th of, of January. 176 00:06:45,767 --> 00:06:46,767 [Judge Judy] When did you leave the job? 177 00:06:46,834 --> 00:06:50,500 I was asked to leave on the se-- on the second of February. 178 00:06:50,567 --> 00:06:52,300 - On February 2nd? - [Michael Attar] Yes, ma'am. 179 00:06:52,367 --> 00:06:54,133 I have to go back or I'll call the cops on you. 180 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,667 Between January 15th and February 2nd, 181 00:06:57,734 --> 00:07:01,867 other than the $4,000, did they give you any other money? 182 00:07:01,934 --> 00:07:03,266 Yes, Your Honor, they did. 183 00:07:03,333 --> 00:07:04,867 [Judge Judy] How much money did they give you? 184 00:07:04,934 --> 00:07:08,066 [Michael Attar] They gave me up to $7,000. 185 00:07:08,133 --> 00:07:10,200 [Judge Judy] So they gave you an additional $3,000? 186 00:07:10,266 --> 00:07:12,567 - Yes, in, in $1,000 checks. - Shhh. 187 00:07:12,633 --> 00:07:15,734 Your Honor, that was within the first week, we gave him that. 188 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,133 - [Judge Judy] Doesn't matter to me. - OK. 189 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,000 My question was, between January 15th and Feburary 2nd, 190 00:07:21,066 --> 00:07:23,567 - they gave you $7,000? - Correct. 191 00:07:23,633 --> 00:07:28,000 Explain the other $4,200, which is the check that they... 192 00:07:28,066 --> 00:07:30,066 - Stopped payment? - [Judge Judy] Stopped payment on. 193 00:07:30,133 --> 00:07:32,166 Yeah. Uh, happily explain to you. 194 00:07:32,233 --> 00:07:35,367 The Bobcat that she rented, uh, for me on her behalf, 195 00:07:35,433 --> 00:07:38,433 it cost $329 to rent per day. 196 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:42,100 And I rented for one day only, but they charged me $800-- 197 00:07:42,166 --> 00:07:44,700 - No, that's not correct. [chuckles] - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 198 00:07:44,767 --> 00:07:46,100 I didn't ask you anything. 199 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:47,100 OK. 200 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Do you have a photograph 201 00:07:51,266 --> 00:07:52,800 of what the property looked like when you left? 202 00:07:52,867 --> 00:07:54,100 Yes, ma'am. 203 00:07:54,166 --> 00:07:55,500 The last picture I took. 204 00:07:55,567 --> 00:07:57,800 Before I was kicked out of the property. 205 00:07:57,867 --> 00:07:59,367 You're talking, I'm not listening to you. 206 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:14,467 {\an8}[Announcer] Michael Attar claims his former clients, 207 00:08:14,533 --> 00:08:16,100 {\an8}Mary and Michael Rhodes, 208 00:08:16,166 --> 00:08:18,367 {\an8}owe for unpaid demolition work. 209 00:08:18,433 --> 00:08:22,734 Mary and Michael are countersuing for lost wages, equipment rental, 210 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,400 and missing property. 211 00:08:24,467 --> 00:08:27,166 Now, they paid you $7,000 212 00:08:27,233 --> 00:08:28,767 Right. Correct. 213 00:08:28,834 --> 00:08:30,367 [Judge Judy] They wrote you another check... 214 00:08:30,433 --> 00:08:34,166 The final check was supposed to be for $5,000, but they only gave me $4,200, 215 00:08:34,233 --> 00:08:37,033 because they minused $800 for the Bobcat rental. 216 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,033 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 217 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:40,600 First of all, the total bill wasn't seven and five. 218 00:08:40,667 --> 00:08:44,900 Seven and five, even my rudimentary math, is $12,000. 219 00:08:44,967 --> 00:08:49,800 That would be $500 more than your agreed contract, 220 00:08:49,867 --> 00:08:51,433 which was for eleven five. 221 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:54,934 They, again, they gave me $6,500, 'cause they gave me small checks. 222 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,600 - They gave me that first-- - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 223 00:08:56,667 --> 00:08:57,800 then they gave me smaller ones. 224 00:08:57,867 --> 00:09:01,000 Sir, you're the businessman, whether you have a license or not. 225 00:09:01,066 --> 00:09:03,600 {\an8}I asked you before, how much money did they give you 226 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:06,400 {\an8}between January 15th and February 2nd, 227 00:09:06,467 --> 00:09:08,400 {\an8}and you said $7,000. 228 00:09:08,467 --> 00:09:09,533 {\an8}I didn't write it down, Your Honor. 229 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,100 Well, you're here asking for money, 230 00:09:12,166 --> 00:09:14,700 and you have to write it down, you have to have some-- 231 00:09:14,767 --> 00:09:16,233 I'm asking for work I've done performed already. 232 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:18,000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, sir. 233 00:09:18,066 --> 00:09:19,433 [Michael Attar] And as I did the job, Your Honor, 234 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:21,467 I did seven, eight other side jobs for them. 235 00:09:21,533 --> 00:09:23,567 I don't care whether you did seven or eight side jobs. 236 00:09:23,633 --> 00:09:27,700 Your original agreement with them was for $11,500, 237 00:09:27,767 --> 00:09:29,467 including all material. 238 00:09:29,533 --> 00:09:33,500 Now, what you said to me was that they gave you $7,000. 239 00:09:33,567 --> 00:09:36,000 And you said they're supposed to give me another five. 240 00:09:36,066 --> 00:09:38,333 Well, another five is more than your quote. 241 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,033 Ma'am, the balance was five. 242 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:41,367 - H-- - [Michael Attar] The initial check, 243 00:09:41,433 --> 00:09:43,500 then they gave me one thousand, one thousand, one thousand. 244 00:09:43,567 --> 00:09:44,400 {\an8}[Judge Judy] How much money did you give him 245 00:09:44,467 --> 00:09:47,066 {\an8}- altogether, that he cashed? - $7,000. 246 00:09:47,133 --> 00:09:49,934 {\an8}[Judge Judy] Then they owed you $4,500. 247 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,567 Pursuant to your agreement 248 00:09:51,633 --> 00:09:55,033 - We agreed to $11,000, not eleven five. - [Michael Attar] Eleven five, Your Honor. 249 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:55,934 [Judge Judy] Anybody have any proof-- 250 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,233 No, it was only a verbal contract. 251 00:09:58,300 --> 00:09:59,400 [Judge Judy] of what the agreed amount was? 252 00:09:59,467 --> 00:10:02,033 We had a verbal contract with me and Mr. Rhodes. 253 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:05,633 Fine. I will indicate that it's $11,500. 254 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:08,633 If they gave you seven, they don't owe you five, 255 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:11,667 they owe you the difference between eleven five 256 00:10:11,734 --> 00:10:13,200 and then the seven that they gave you. 257 00:10:13,266 --> 00:10:16,734 Now, one of the things that you disputed, Mr. Attar, 258 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,033 was this Bobcat. 259 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:21,166 Who paid for the Bobcat? 260 00:10:21,233 --> 00:10:22,633 Show me. 261 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:25,033 They minused it, they minused it from the final price. 262 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:26,400 [Judge Judy] Just a second. 263 00:10:26,467 --> 00:10:27,834 Was that an argument? 264 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:31,100 {\an8}The argument about it, Your Honor, is they rented for one day, 265 00:10:31,166 --> 00:10:33,600 {\an8}but they charged me two days. $800. 266 00:10:33,667 --> 00:10:36,066 There's no Bobcat rental for $800 for two days. 267 00:10:36,133 --> 00:10:38,767 - Do you have the bill for the Bobcat? - [Mary Rhodes] I do, yes. 268 00:10:38,834 --> 00:10:41,000 - And it was for two days - If you go over a certain time-- 269 00:10:41,066 --> 00:10:42,834 [Mary Rhodes] because it was returned late. 270 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:44,867 So they charged a second day. 271 00:10:44,934 --> 00:10:48,500 But in his text messages, he did request it for two days. 272 00:10:52,266 --> 00:10:53,934 - [Judge Judy] Is that the total price? - [Mary Rhodes] Yes. 273 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,700 - And I did not subtract it from his-- - [Judge Judy] Just, just-- 274 00:10:55,767 --> 00:10:56,800 [Mary Rhodes] payment. 275 00:10:56,867 --> 00:11:00,467 - Total contract was 652.74? - Yes. 276 00:11:00,533 --> 00:11:02,734 Do you have a photograph of what the property looked like 277 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,567 - when you left? - [Michael Attar] Yes, ma'am. 278 00:11:04,633 --> 00:11:06,867 The last picture I took... 279 00:11:06,934 --> 00:11:09,300 before I was kicked out of the property. 280 00:11:09,367 --> 00:11:10,934 You're talking, I'm not listening to you. 281 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,066 - Just show me a picture. - Yes, ma'am. 282 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,367 - This is not a picture-- - [Judge Judy] Mr. Attar, 283 00:11:20,433 --> 00:11:22,000 - you're the businessman. - Yes, ma'am. 284 00:11:22,066 --> 00:11:23,700 - [Judge Judy] This is your company. - Yes, ma'am. 285 00:11:23,767 --> 00:11:28,333 Company requires: "A", a license before you operate, which you didn't have. 286 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,667 "B", it requires a written contract. 287 00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:33,200 You're the businessman. 288 00:11:33,266 --> 00:11:35,467 {\an8}They're people who bought a house who got your number 289 00:11:35,533 --> 00:11:37,767 {\an8}off a windshield someplace. 290 00:11:37,834 --> 00:11:40,166 {\an8}You're the businessman, and you want the parameters, 291 00:11:40,233 --> 00:11:43,367 {\an8}you want them fixed. So I don't know if it's 11,000, 292 00:11:43,433 --> 00:11:44,467 {\an8}or eleven five. 293 00:11:44,533 --> 00:11:46,367 - Do you understand? - Very much, Your Honor. 294 00:11:46,433 --> 00:11:48,066 [Judge Judy] Right. Well, that's your mistake. 295 00:11:48,133 --> 00:11:50,734 You look as if you've probably been in business for a long time. 296 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,900 Fourteen years. 297 00:11:51,967 --> 00:11:54,734 And is what you're telling me you don't have written contracts? 298 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,333 All my contracts are verbal. 299 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,133 Then, how many times have you been in court, sir? 300 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,066 - [Michael Attar] Never. - Never? 301 00:11:59,133 --> 00:12:00,800 I've never had a stop payment check. 302 00:12:00,867 --> 00:12:02,433 Everybody pays me on time, Your Honor. 303 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:03,533 [Judge Judy] Here's the problem. 304 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,734 So when you finished, the debris wasn't all removed. 305 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,000 [Michael Attar] That was, they kept telling me 306 00:12:08,066 --> 00:12:09,834 don't touch it, their neighbor, cousin, 307 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:11,100 whoever, was gonna come pick it up. 308 00:12:11,166 --> 00:12:12,800 That was just cut corde wood. 309 00:12:12,867 --> 00:12:14,767 [Judge Judy] No. There's brick, there's wood, 310 00:12:14,834 --> 00:12:16,533 - there's cement. - We cleaned all that. 311 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,200 - I came, uh, I personally cleaned-- - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 312 00:12:19,266 --> 00:12:21,367 What I asked you, Mr. Attar, 313 00:12:21,433 --> 00:12:25,900 was show me a picture of the property when you left. 314 00:12:25,967 --> 00:12:27,567 This is the picture that you showed me. 315 00:12:27,633 --> 00:12:29,467 [Michael Attar] That was the last, before I had more work, 316 00:12:29,533 --> 00:12:31,600 I came in and did more-- I wasn't taking pictures, 317 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:34,333 I was not expecting somebody to stop payment on a check, Your Honor. 318 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,133 - I was not expecting that. - [Mary Rhodes] I have pictures 319 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,700 of what it looked like when he left. 320 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:45,867 [Judge Judy] Well, what are you showing me, here, 321 00:12:45,934 --> 00:12:47,033 this brick that's here? 322 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:48,467 They piled it there and then left it there. 323 00:12:48,533 --> 00:12:51,133 - That's what they wanted-- - [Judge Judy] Shhh! 324 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,233 It was supposed to be removed. 325 00:12:54,934 --> 00:12:56,767 So this is the back. 326 00:12:56,834 --> 00:12:59,233 [Mary Rhodes] That's a picture of the sagging patio, 327 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:03,033 because he removed part of the supports that were holding up the patio, 328 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:05,633 that he wasn't supposed to, so it's now sagging. 329 00:13:06,233 --> 00:13:08,533 [Judge Judy] Now, this is the picture that you gave me 330 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,433 when you told me this is what you wanted... 331 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:14,200 - [Mary Rhodes] Mm-hmm. - Level, cleared and made flat. 332 00:13:14,266 --> 00:13:16,767 - [Mary Rhodes] Right. - Now, I want to see your picture 333 00:13:16,834 --> 00:13:19,066 of what this looked like when he left. 334 00:13:19,133 --> 00:13:21,333 You have it, it's in, it's in some of those photos. 335 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,500 [Michael Attar] That's leveled. 336 00:13:22,567 --> 00:13:23,800 - You're talking about this? - [Michael Attar] Yes. 337 00:13:23,867 --> 00:13:24,800 [Mary Rhodes] That's part of it. 338 00:13:24,867 --> 00:13:26,467 Th-- The close-up, that's part of it. 339 00:13:26,533 --> 00:13:27,767 [Judge Judy] Well, it looks like most of the stuff 340 00:13:27,834 --> 00:13:29,834 is done. It looked like a lot of clean-up left. 341 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:31,367 No, ma'am, we'd done all the clean-up. 342 00:13:31,433 --> 00:13:32,834 Well, I would've seen that, sir. 343 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:34,533 Then what you're supposed to do is take a photograph. 344 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,066 It was also, it was also buried underneath. 345 00:13:37,133 --> 00:13:40,300 These are the photos of when we did it ourselves, 346 00:13:40,367 --> 00:13:41,834 and really leveled it out. 347 00:13:41,900 --> 00:13:43,200 And as we were doing that 348 00:13:43,266 --> 00:13:45,333 we found so much buried underneath 349 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,200 that should have been removed, 350 00:13:47,266 --> 00:13:49,033 but his Bobcat person buried it all. 351 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:50,333 - [Michael Attar] Your Honor? - He buried the-- 352 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,867 All the debris, all the concrete, brick, and-- 353 00:13:51,934 --> 00:13:53,800 [Judge Judy] OK, let me see the bill from the-- 354 00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:55,233 - Your Honor? - [Judge Judy] Shhh! 355 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:56,567 [Mary Rhodes] No, we did it ourselves. 356 00:13:56,633 --> 00:13:58,266 We rented equipment and did it ourselves. 357 00:13:58,333 --> 00:14:01,133 - On his vacation. - Oh. Nice. 358 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,433 [Judge Judy] OK. $4,500 is so far what's owed 359 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:05,166 on this contract. 360 00:14:05,233 --> 00:14:08,767 Now, your counterclaim is money owed for lost work, 361 00:14:08,834 --> 00:14:10,433 equipment rentals, 362 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:13,133 labor and missing damages to property. 363 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,967 What money owed for lost work? 364 00:14:15,033 --> 00:14:16,433 {\an8}[Mary Rhodes] During the second week 365 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:17,567 {\an8}that he was working, 366 00:14:17,633 --> 00:14:20,834 {\an8}he called and said that his crew had left-- 367 00:14:20,900 --> 00:14:23,367 {\an8}this was the second day of, use of, supposed to be 368 00:14:23,433 --> 00:14:25,667 {\an8}- use of the Bobcat that I rented. - I fired him, Your Honor. 369 00:14:25,734 --> 00:14:28,500 OK, if you interrupt me again, I'm just dismissing your case. 370 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:29,934 - Do you understand? - Thank you, Your Honor. 371 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,000 - [Judge Judy] Understand? - Yes, ma'am. 372 00:14:31,066 --> 00:14:31,967 [Judge Judy] Very good. 373 00:14:32,033 --> 00:14:33,734 Just explain "lost work". 374 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,000 - Who's lost work? - His. 375 00:14:35,066 --> 00:14:35,934 [Judge Judy] Oh, I get it. 376 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,133 - Well, he called and said his crew left, - [Judge Judy] Forget it. 377 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,433 he can't finish the job-- 378 00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:41,066 You weren't living there? 379 00:14:41,133 --> 00:14:42,633 - Not yet, no. - [Judge Judy] You weren't living there. 380 00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:44,667 You want to go, go. 381 00:14:44,734 --> 00:14:47,367 I'm not interested in his lost wages for taking care of his house. 382 00:14:47,433 --> 00:14:49,000 So far, you owe the man 383 00:14:49,066 --> 00:14:52,367 the balance on his contract, unless you had somebody else do it, 384 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:53,700 which is absolutely fine, 385 00:14:53,767 --> 00:14:57,000 and I would look at that, removal of debris, what it cost you, 386 00:14:57,066 --> 00:14:59,133 and you're absolutely entitled to that. 387 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,767 Deducted from what you owe him, 388 00:15:01,834 --> 00:15:03,567 which is $4,500. 389 00:15:03,633 --> 00:15:05,734 - But he didn't finish the job. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 390 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,567 You tell me, how am I supposed to gauge 391 00:15:08,633 --> 00:15:10,633 how much of the job he didn't finish? 392 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:13,033 Did he not complete $2,500 worth? 393 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:15,633 $3,500 worth? 394 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:17,166 $1,500 worth? 395 00:15:17,233 --> 00:15:18,467 [Mary Rhodes] I think the seven we paid him 396 00:15:18,533 --> 00:15:20,100 was overpaid. He didn't have to end up 397 00:15:20,166 --> 00:15:22,800 removing an entire pool. He only had to remove-- 398 00:15:22,867 --> 00:15:24,166 That's your problem. 399 00:15:24,233 --> 00:15:25,567 Just a second. I read that. 400 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:27,600 You said it's not a big pool, it wasn't eight feet, 401 00:15:27,667 --> 00:15:28,667 it was only 24 inches. 402 00:15:28,734 --> 00:15:31,700 - He gave you a price - Mm-hmm. 403 00:15:31,767 --> 00:15:33,433 to level everything. 404 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:36,433 Nothing delineated, nothing in a written contract. 405 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:38,233 The pool turns out to be two feet 406 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:41,600 instead of six feet, or two feet instead of eight feet, 407 00:15:41,667 --> 00:15:44,967 well, if he was the contractor, and he came out, 408 00:15:45,033 --> 00:15:47,633 and he looked at the pool, and he said, oh, this is an eight-foot pool, 409 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:50,934 and it turned out it's a 12-foot pool, he'd be stuck with eleven five. 410 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,767 Just like you're stuck with eleven five, because it was shallower. 411 00:15:53,834 --> 00:15:56,967 Now, you owe him $4,500, 412 00:15:57,033 --> 00:15:59,467 unless you want to produce for me bills 413 00:15:59,533 --> 00:16:03,734 that you have for rental equipment, etc., and I will absolutely deduct that 414 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,066 from the $4,500. 415 00:16:06,133 --> 00:16:09,166 Just give me the bills and the amount of equipment. 416 00:16:09,233 --> 00:16:11,533 Don't-- Say nothing, Mr. Attar. 417 00:16:13,166 --> 00:16:15,033 Mr. Rhodes, did you rent a Bobcat? 418 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,934 - The one that I cleaned up the yard with? - [Judge Judy] Yes. 419 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,734 - Uh, I, I rented a piece of equipment-- - Jump up! 420 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,467 [Michael Rhodes] Yes. 421 00:16:23,266 --> 00:16:24,967 {\an8}And you know how they pick up metal? 422 00:16:25,033 --> 00:16:26,166 No, I don't know that, sir. 423 00:16:26,233 --> 00:16:27,767 I'm a television personality. 424 00:16:27,834 --> 00:16:30,967 I don't know about people driving down the street to pick up metal. 425 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:32,700 I've never had somebody drive down the street 426 00:16:32,767 --> 00:16:34,066 and say, "I'm looking for metal." 427 00:16:34,133 --> 00:16:37,800 They don't even come down my street and ask if I want sharp knives. 428 00:16:49,533 --> 00:16:51,367 {\an8}[Announcer] Michael Attar has accused 429 00:16:51,433 --> 00:16:54,433 {\an8}his former clients, Mary and Michael Rhodes, 430 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:57,533 {\an8}of refusing to pay for demolition work. 431 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,133 Mary and Michael claim he never finished the job 432 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,734 and stole their property. 433 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,133 Now, what did you rent? 434 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,633 - A skip loader. - [Judge Judy] That's different 435 00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:06,934 - from a Bobcat. - Yes, that's correct. 436 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,000 - Smaller? - I would say, bigger. 437 00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:11,700 Bigger. And do you remember how much it cost you? 438 00:17:11,767 --> 00:17:13,033 Uhh... [exhales] 439 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,600 [Judge Judy] Did you rent it from Home Depot? 440 00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:16,467 No, no, no. It's from a local rental yard. 441 00:17:16,533 --> 00:17:18,000 I think it was in, um... 442 00:17:18,066 --> 00:17:19,400 - All the equipment we rented - in Ontario. 443 00:17:19,467 --> 00:17:20,967 - was $1,300. - Yeah. 444 00:17:21,033 --> 00:17:22,433 - Find it. - [Michael Rhodes] Yeah. 445 00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:23,367 - [Mary Rhodes] I... - Find the bill. 446 00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:26,333 They didn't print it, so... oh, my God... 447 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,266 How many days did you have it, Mr. Rhodes? 448 00:17:28,333 --> 00:17:29,266 Four. 449 00:17:29,333 --> 00:17:30,867 [Judge Judy] I'm dismissing your counterclaim, 450 00:17:30,934 --> 00:17:32,967 Mrs. Rhodes. Do you want to know why? 451 00:17:33,033 --> 00:17:36,066 Because I asked him a specific question, and you answered. 452 00:17:36,133 --> 00:17:37,934 - OK. - [Judge Judy] Do you understand? 453 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,600 - Sure. - [Judge Judy] You understand? 454 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:41,433 [Judge Judy] That part of your counterclaim, 455 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:43,000 'cause you don't have it, you can't find it, 456 00:17:43,066 --> 00:17:45,900 So, so far, you owe him $4,500. 457 00:17:45,967 --> 00:17:48,400 Not $8,600, but $4,500. 458 00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:51,066 Now, do you have any proof 459 00:17:51,133 --> 00:17:54,500 that Mr. Attar or someone from his team 460 00:17:54,567 --> 00:17:56,900 stole copper piping or whatever piping 461 00:17:56,967 --> 00:17:58,433 that you claim is missing? 462 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,567 {\an8}Do you have any proof that either Mr. Attar 463 00:18:00,633 --> 00:18:04,367 {\an8}or anyone under his authority took property from you? 464 00:18:04,433 --> 00:18:06,934 {\an8}Yes. We have text messages back and forth. 465 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:07,900 [Judge Judy] OK, I'll read them. 466 00:18:24,867 --> 00:18:28,000 OK. So, what you're referring to with regard to the stolen property is, 467 00:18:28,066 --> 00:18:30,333 You sent a picture, and there's a little piece of pipe there, 468 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,700 one piece of pipe, and you say, 469 00:18:31,767 --> 00:18:35,567 "Mike, did you or your guys happen to grind off two metal poles 470 00:18:35,633 --> 00:18:39,266 in concrete blocks? The kids use those for volleyball nets." 471 00:18:39,333 --> 00:18:43,166 And he says, "Oh, my God, no, sir, but I am guessing the person 472 00:18:43,233 --> 00:18:47,734 whom I gave my metal to, no problem, Michael, please give--" 473 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,567 and I don't see the rest of this message. 474 00:18:50,633 --> 00:18:54,800 Yeah. So, the-- that was the beginning of things we noticed that were missing. 475 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:57,000 Oh. I don't care. - If- - If this is what you're talking about? 476 00:18:57,066 --> 00:18:59,934 Yes, he's saying he let a metal person onto our yard, 477 00:19:00,066 --> 00:19:01,567 - [Judge Judy] OK. - and they went and took everything 478 00:19:01,633 --> 00:19:02,567 - that was metal. - [Judge Judy] OK. 479 00:19:05,867 --> 00:19:07,867 OK. Now, Mr. Attar... 480 00:19:07,934 --> 00:19:09,567 - Yes, Your Honor? - [Judge Judy] I want you to tell me 481 00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:12,200 about the missing metal on this property. 482 00:19:12,266 --> 00:19:14,266 She was standing right there, and I had, there was a metal guy 483 00:19:14,333 --> 00:19:15,533 driving down the street. 484 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,400 And you know, how they pick up metal? 485 00:19:17,467 --> 00:19:20,233 No, I don't know that, sir. I'm a television personality. 486 00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:23,400 I don't know about people driving down the street to pick up metal. 487 00:19:23,467 --> 00:19:25,300 I've never had somebody drive down the street and say, 488 00:19:25,367 --> 00:19:26,433 "I'm looking for metal." 489 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:29,934 They don't even come down my street and ask if I want sharp knives. 490 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 - Okay. - [Judge Judy] Do you understand? 491 00:19:32,066 --> 00:19:33,000 - Very much, Your Honor. - [Judge Judy] Do you understand? 492 00:19:33,066 --> 00:19:34,934 - Very much, Your Honor. - OK. Who is this person-- 493 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,533 This person was picking up metal. 494 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,333 And I asked her permission that maybe he comes on the property-- 495 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,600 - [Judge Judy] Just a second. - Yes, ma'am. 496 00:19:40,667 --> 00:19:42,800 Was this person picking up metal for nothing? 497 00:19:42,867 --> 00:19:43,834 - Yes. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 498 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:44,900 Yeah. 499 00:19:44,967 --> 00:19:47,300 You're a business guy, Mr. Attar. 500 00:19:47,367 --> 00:19:49,834 Somebody drives down the street and says, you know, 501 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:51,300 "I see you doing construction. 502 00:19:51,367 --> 00:19:56,133 Is there any metal around here that you want me to dispose of?" 503 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,567 - Yes, ma'am, they do it a lot. - [Judge Judy] Yes. 504 00:19:57,633 --> 00:19:59,100 And then they look around... 505 00:19:59,166 --> 00:20:00,800 this is what you're telling me-- they look around, 506 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:03,200 and they take the metal for nothing? 507 00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:05,200 Yes, ma'am. That's to be cheaper for me, 508 00:20:05,266 --> 00:20:08,734 instead of load it on my trailer and take to the recycling tow yard-- 509 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,633 So, what metal did they take, sir? 510 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:12,900 - I assume you watched. - Everything that I gave him. 511 00:20:12,967 --> 00:20:14,033 - What did you give him? - [Michael Attar] What was there. 512 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:16,600 Nobody went up there and cut no poles, ma'am. 513 00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:17,867 [Judge Judy] Well, they sent you a picture 514 00:20:17,934 --> 00:20:20,266 of a pole, sir. And in response to the picture 515 00:20:20,333 --> 00:20:22,400 of the pole, you said, "Oh, my God, 516 00:20:22,467 --> 00:20:25,600 I'm guessing the person whom I gave my metal to, 517 00:20:25,667 --> 00:20:26,533 - [Michael Attar] I'm guessing. - [Judge Judy] No problem, 518 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,066 and then you say later, tell me what it is, 519 00:20:29,133 --> 00:20:32,533 and I will either look high and low to get it back, 520 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,834 {\an8}or replace it. That's what you say. 521 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:37,033 - {\an8}- - Yes, I would replace it. - [Judge Judy] That's what you say. 522 00:20:37,100 --> 00:20:37,934 {\an8}Yeah, I would replace it. 523 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,767 {\an8}[Judge Judy] Now, next question. 524 00:20:39,834 --> 00:20:43,166 I need an itemized list of what the value was of the metal taken. 525 00:20:44,667 --> 00:20:46,667 I know there's a list of everything. 526 00:20:49,033 --> 00:20:50,000 They're listed in there. 527 00:20:56,967 --> 00:20:57,867 [Judge Judy] What is this? 528 00:20:57,934 --> 00:20:58,867 [Mary Rhodes] Those are all the damages, 529 00:20:58,934 --> 00:21:00,834 but the metal is listed in there separately 530 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:02,133 of the items that are missing. 531 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,133 No, it isn't. This is a whole bunch of other things 532 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,867 that you've prepared for this case. 533 00:21:05,934 --> 00:21:07,367 [Mary Rhodes] It's in there, underneath. 534 00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:08,800 There's the horse feeder, 535 00:21:08,867 --> 00:21:10,166 part of the corral was cut off-- 536 00:21:10,233 --> 00:21:12,600 [Judge Judy] But this is something that you wrote 537 00:21:12,667 --> 00:21:13,800 - yourself. - [Mary Rhodes] Yes, you said 538 00:21:13,867 --> 00:21:15,734 - an itemized list-- - [Judge Judy] This isn't a-- 539 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,867 If they took six feet of pipe, get me a bill from Home Depot 540 00:21:18,934 --> 00:21:20,934 - for the replacement of that pipe. - [Mary Rhodes] Oh. 541 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,900 - I have... - [Judge Judy] All the bills 542 00:21:22,967 --> 00:21:24,900 for the replacement of metal. 543 00:21:24,967 --> 00:21:27,100 Not what you prepared for this litigation. 544 00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:30,133 I'm sorry, I misunderstood. Itemized list. 545 00:21:36,700 --> 00:21:38,767 [Judge Judy] Did you take down a horse corral? 546 00:21:38,834 --> 00:21:40,967 No, Your Honor, I did not take down a horse corral. 547 00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:42,767 - I had nothing to do-- - [Judge Judy] Horse corral, is that metal, 548 00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:44,900 - or is it-- - It's made out of galvanized metal, yeah. 549 00:21:44,967 --> 00:21:47,233 They cut pieces off of that that were sticking up, 550 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:49,867 - to take, to recycle, I guess. - [Judge Judy] Just a second. 551 00:21:49,934 --> 00:21:52,700 - Was there a four-sided horse corral, - [Mary Rhodes] Yes. 552 00:21:52,767 --> 00:21:54,734 - that looked like this, - [Mary Rhodes] Yes. 553 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,066 - that they took down-- - They cut pieces that were sticking up 554 00:21:59,133 --> 00:22:02,200 above the horse corral, attached to the horse corral. 555 00:22:02,266 --> 00:22:04,967 [Judge Judy] You're being petty. You're being petty. 556 00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:07,200 $306, Ramm's price. 557 00:22:07,266 --> 00:22:09,633 Galvanized wall-mounted horse feeder. 558 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:11,567 - Did you take a horse feeder? - [Michael Attar] No, Your Honor, 559 00:22:11,633 --> 00:22:14,500 - I got no-- - You owe Mr. Attar $4,500. 560 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,400 Judgment for the plaintiff. Your counterclaim's dismissed. 561 00:22:16,467 --> 00:22:18,600 - We're finished. - [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 562 00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:21,967 Well, he-- his equipment broke, 563 00:22:22,033 --> 00:22:24,200 and he wanted us to rent the equipment for him. 564 00:22:24,266 --> 00:22:26,900 The equipment died because... things breaks down. 565 00:22:26,967 --> 00:22:29,700 And then the next day, he calls and says he can't finish it. 566 00:22:29,767 --> 00:22:31,867 At that moment, I didn't have a credit card 567 00:22:31,934 --> 00:22:33,900 to my name. 568 00:22:33,967 --> 00:22:34,867 And that's the honest truth. 569 00:22:34,934 --> 00:22:37,767 So, we pretty much figured that was job abandonment at that point. 570 00:22:37,834 --> 00:22:40,433 Yeah, I'm gonna have a written contract in the future. 571 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:42,133 - Don't hire him. - Always hire a professional. 572 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,367 I could not believe that your first question to him, 573 00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:48,567 when he said that he'd been working as a contractor 574 00:22:48,633 --> 00:22:53,867 for 14 years was, and you've been working all 14 of those years unlicensed? 575 00:22:53,934 --> 00:22:55,767 - Oh, yeah. [chuckles] - I was waiting for the question. 576 00:22:55,834 --> 00:22:58,100 I was waiting at the edge of my seat, and it never came. 577 00:22:58,166 --> 00:22:59,600 - Different minds. - [chuckling] 578 00:22:59,667 --> 00:23:01,266 [Judge Judy] Yeah. Should've slipped me a note. 579 00:23:01,333 --> 00:23:03,033 - I should've. - You should've slipped me a note. 580 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:06,467 No, that actually didn't cross my mind, but that's a good question. 581 00:23:06,533 --> 00:23:08,867 Oral contracts and no license. 582 00:23:08,934 --> 00:23:10,667 And no license, but there's no question he did the work. 583 00:23:10,734 --> 00:23:11,834 - Yeah. - He did the work, 584 00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:16,667 and they were really dickering over the, who was gonna absorb the cost 585 00:23:16,734 --> 00:23:19,100 of the second Bobcat that they had to get, 586 00:23:19,166 --> 00:23:20,200 which was really ridiculous. 587 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:24,567 If they had had another contractor who came and completed the job, 588 00:23:24,633 --> 00:23:26,834 - You would've noted that. - [Judge Judy] I would've deducted it 589 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:29,166 from the $4,500 that they owed him. 590 00:23:29,233 --> 00:23:31,166 [Judge Judy] But absent that, the fact 591 00:23:31,233 --> 00:23:33,533 he rented some sort of piece of equipment, and came and cleaned up the property 592 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,834 - Yeah. - [Judge Judy] was not important to me, 593 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:37,667 and the rest of their case was nonsense. 594 00:23:37,734 --> 00:23:40,767 Next time, they won't employ somebody 595 00:23:40,834 --> 00:23:43,400 - for $11,000 - Big job. 596 00:23:43,467 --> 00:23:45,767 from a card from your windshield. 597 00:23:45,834 --> 00:23:47,600 At Home Depot. 598 00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:49,834 From, you know, from wherever, and not say, 599 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:52,200 OK, listen, maybe I give him a shot. 600 00:23:52,266 --> 00:23:55,834 Give me three of your last references to call. 601 00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:57,767 It's a good lesson to people out there, doing work. 602 00:23:57,834 --> 00:24:01,600 I don't understand that. Well, anyway... 603 00:24:01,667 --> 00:24:02,900 We're done. 604 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,066 {\an8}[Announcer] Have you been cheated? 605 00:24:06,133 --> 00:24:08,100 {\an8}Go to JudyJustice.tv.