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{\an8}You were out walking the family dog?
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{\an8}Yes.
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The pit bull latched onto my dog,
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and my dog was squealing a lot.
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My dog is not vicious.
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And she likes to play with little dogs.
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Clearly, on this day, she didn't like
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[narrator]
This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}♪
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{\an8}Audrey Stevens is suing her neighbor,
Heather Stephens,
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{\an8}for vet bills and pain and suffering
after a dog attack.
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[bailiff]
Court come to order.
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- All rise.
- Have a seat, please.
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Hello, Judge.
Case 2139, Stevens versus Stephens.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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[Judy]
Although your names sound the same,
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they're spelled differently,
and you are clearly not related,
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based upon this case.
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- You live in the same general area?
- Yes.
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[Judy]
Okay. Could you step up?
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Tell me your name.
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- Emilee Fehringer.
- [Judy] This is your daughter?
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Yes.
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[Judy] How long have you
been living in your house?
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Eight and a half years.
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- How old are you?
- Twenty-two.
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Tell me what you do.
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I work at a bakery right now,
and I'm a full-time college student.
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- [Judy] Where do you go to school?
- Idaho State University.
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You were out walking the family dog?
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{\an8}- Yes, I was.
- [Judy] Family has one dog?
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{\an8}Just one, yeah.
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{\an8}[Judy]
What kind of dog?
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{\an8}It's a miniature Schnauzer.
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Weighs about ten, 12 pounds?
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Yeah, around there, 15-ish.
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- [Judy] How old is the dog?
- [Emilee] He is nine.
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[Judy]
You've had him since he was a puppy?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] This case has to do with
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injuries that your dog sustained?
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{\an8}- Yes.
- [Judy] And the payment of vet bills
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{\an8}by the defendant, who you allege
has two dogs, unleashed,
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{\an8}that attacked your dog
while you were walking?
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- [Emilee] Correct.
- Him.
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- Just... one dog.
- One dog.
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- [Judy] One?
- One dog attacked our dog.
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You have a pit bull?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] What color?
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- White and brown.
- [Judy] How old?
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She's five.
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Is that the only dog you have?
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{\an8}- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Okay.
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{\an8}Tell me what date
you were walking the dog
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{\an8}that this incident happened?
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July 26th, 2021.
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Time?
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- Around 8:00 p.m.
- [Judy] Dark?
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- No.
- [Judy] Still light out?
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Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy] Were you
walking in the neighborhood?
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I was.
I was walking down the sidewalk,
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and I passed the defendant's house,
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and I reached the end of the sidewalk.
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- [Judy] Your dog's name is what?
- Jax.
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- [Judy] On a leash?
- [Emilee] Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
Do you always walk the dog on a leash?
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{\an8}- We do.
- [Judy] Tell me what happened.
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{\an8}I was walking down the sidewalk,
and I reached the end of the sidewalk.
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I was about to cross the street, and--
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[Judy]
Do you have a picture or diagram?
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- I do. I have a diagram.
- Yes.
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May I see it, please?
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Oh. Okay. There it is.
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Would you go over to the diagram
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so that you can point directly,
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and I can understand
where this happened?
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[Emilee]
I was standing right here,
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and I noticed the dog come up
on my left side.
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[Judy]
On your left side?
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- [Emilee] Yes.
- [Judy] Did you notice
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from where the dog came?
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It seemed to be out in the street
when it approached me.
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[Judy] So it didn't come
from the defendant's house,
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- it came from the street?
- [Emilee] Yes.
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It had been on the left-hand side of me,
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and then, the pit bull latched
onto my dog,
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on its leg.
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- [Judy] What color pit bull?
- [Emilee] Brown and white.
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Was there any fighting
or a scuffle before?
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{\an8}No, ma'am. It just ran up to me,
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{\an8}and it latched onto my dog's leg,
and it picked my dog up,
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{\an8}and was yanking it around
in the air.
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And it was very loud,
and my dog was squealing a lot,
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and crying out very loudly,
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so I yanked his leash,
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so that I didn't have to bend down
and get hurt myself.
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And I picked him up, and I ran back--
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So you yanked him up by his leash?
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- I did.
- [Judy] Okay.
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Did he have, what kind of a collar on?
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A regular collar
or one of those harnesses?
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We have both, so I'm not sure
which one he was wearing at that time.
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But I believe he was wearing the collar.
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- Just the collar?
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- So you lifted him up by the collar?
- Yes.
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[Judy] Did you see
where the the dog went?
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I do not remember.
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I think the pit bull ran back
into the defendant's household.
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But you're not sure?
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I'm not sure.
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What did you do next?
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- We took the dog to the animal hospital.
- Okay.
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You can go back now.
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- Stand close to your mom.
- [Emilee] Sorry.
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Had you ever seen this dog before?
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I have.
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[Judy]
Where had you seen the dog before?
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[Emilee]
I've seen the pit bull
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in multiple places
around the neighborhood.
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- I've seen it--
- That same dog?
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Yes.
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I've seen it across the street,
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in the... across-the-street
neighbor's yard,
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and I've also seen it in my yard,
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and it's also been
next to my chain link fence before.
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Did you, or you, Ms. Stevens,
ever have a conversation
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with the defendant
about the dog being unleashed?
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I have not spoken to her at all.
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[Judy] For how long
have you seen her unleashed dog
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out and about?
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{\an8}Probably about ten times.
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{\an8}[Judy] Have you ever said anything
to your mother
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{\an8}- about seeing this dog outside?
- I have.
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Okay... I'm listening.
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Yes, ma'am.
May I show you on the--
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- [Judy] Absolutely.
- on the diagram? Thank you.
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Absolutely.
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[Heather] Okay.
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First of all...
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[Judy]
Don't-don't tell me "First of all."
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- Okay.
- [Judy] Were you there
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at approximately 8:00 p.m. on July 26th?
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- Correct. I was.
- [Judy] Okay, where were you?
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Show me where you were.
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I was right here.
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I was loading a fridge into my home.
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I had my dog right here,
in the middle of the driveway,
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chained to the fence. Okay?
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She came from across the crosswalk here,
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because I have a witness,
as well, to show...
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she came from the crosswalk
with her dog in front of her.
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She came across,
right into my driveway,
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the dog went into my driveway,
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and my dog went up to her,
and they began to fight.
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- You're going like this.
- [Heather] Uh-huh. Yeah.
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You're going like this.
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I don't want you to go like this.
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- Okay.
- [Judy] So your dog
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- was on a chain...
- [Heather] Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
...a chain that extended
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- almost to the end of your driveway?
- Correct.
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{\an8}[Judy] So show me exactly,
with your finger,
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{\an8}- Okay. - [Judy] where,
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{\an8}where you say this confrontation
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between the pit bull
and the Schnauzer took place?
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Right here, ma'am.
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[Judy] Well, you're pointing
to about a f--
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well, you-- now, you keep
moving your finger.
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Right here.
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You know that I don't believe
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that your dog hasn't been out
and about in the neighborhood
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- unleashed?
- No, ma'am.
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I don't let my dog off a leash.
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We do have pictures of the dog as well,
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- if you'd like to see those?
- [Judy] Oh, do you?
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- Yes.
- You mean, out and about?
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- Yes.
- I'd like to see that.
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{\an8}[narrator]
Audrey Stevens claims her neighbor,
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{\an8}Heather Stephens,
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{\an8}owes for vet bills after her dog
was injured by Heather's pit bull.
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Now you're moving your fingers.
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So you're saying it's right
at the end of your driveway?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Just a second.
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- It was up further five seconds ago.
- [Heather] Okay.
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- Now you--
- [Heather] My dog was right here, ma'am.
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- Yeah.
- The fight occurred right here.
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Well, now your finger
is at a different place, madam.
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I'm just letting you know,
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your finger moves up the driveway.
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- Right, I'd say right here.
- [Judy] Okay.
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Yes, ma'am.
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You know that I don't believe that.
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I know you don't believe that, Your Honor,
but that's what happened.
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[Judy]
You know that I don't believe
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that your dog hasn't been out and about
in the neighborhood?
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Do you know that I don't believe that?
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I don't think she's lying to me
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that your dog's been out and about
in the neighborhood, unleashed.
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No, ma'am.
I don't let my dog off a leash.
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We do have pictures of the dog as well.
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If you'd like to see those.
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- Oh, do you?
- [Emilee and Heather] Yes.
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You mean out and about?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] I'd like to see that.
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- [Heather] And this is after--
- Shh! Shh!
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- [Heather] Sorry.
- I don't care before or after.
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She just said, "I don't let my dog
go out without a leash."
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[Audrey]
Well, this is the injury...
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{\an8}[Judy] Ms. Stephens,
these pictures belie the fact
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{\an8}that your dog is out leashed only.
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Do you want to see the photographs?
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Yes, ma'am, please.
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Yes, Your Honor, I do see that,
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but I was outside
with my dog at that time--
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I don't care whether you were outside
with your dog or not,
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you said your dog is never out
without a leash.
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That's not true.
That's not true.
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Were you a witness to this?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Be very careful.
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Do you understand?
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[Karen]
Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
Tell me your name.
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My name is Karen Brennan.
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[Judy]
Are you a neighbor?
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- No, I'm a friend.
- [Judy] A friend of who's?
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Of Heather Stephens.
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Go ahead.
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- [Karen] W-- On that day...
- On what day?
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{\an8}On July 26th,
I was helping Heather with the fridge.
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{\an8}- [Judy] With what?
- With the refrigerator.
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{\an8}And I was approaching the driveway...
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[Judy] Just a second,
you were helping her
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with the refrigerator, doing what?
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Bringing the dolly out,
so it could be moved.
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Bringing the dolly out from where?
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- From the side of the house.
- [Judy] And?
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And I looked over,
and I saw the little dog,
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- and it caught my eye--
- [Judy] You saw what?
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[Karen]
The little dog, and it caught my eye,
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because every time before,
and, you know, anytime I put the dog out,
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Ms. Stephens' dog,
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that that little dog,
if it was in the back yard,
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would continually bark at--
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Just a second.
Did you put the dog out that day?
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No, I did not that day.
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- But I recognized the dog.
- [Judy] So you did not
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- put the dog out...
- No.
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- that day?
- Not that day.
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Okay. What time did you get
to Ms. Stephens' house?
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Um, mid-afternoon.
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[Judy]
What's her dog's name?
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- Lilly.
- Was Lilly chained to the fence
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- all afternoon?
- [Karen] When we were--
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[shushing]
Was Lilly chained to the fence
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all afternoon?
That's either a yes or a no.
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When you were there.
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That's either a yes or a no.
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Was Lilly chained to the fence
all afternoon when you were there?
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You said you got there mid-afternoon.
This happened at eight o'clock.
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Was the dog chained to the fence
all the time you were there?
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- Yes or a no? Or I don't know.
- No.
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- No?
- [Judy] No.
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Where was the dog?
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In the backyard.
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[Judy]
Until what time?
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{\an8}Until around seven, seven-ish
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or so, I don't know the exact time.
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- But it was mid-evening.
- [Judy] Okay.
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And what happened at that time,
when the dog was moved
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from the backyard
outside of the backyard?
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Who moved the dog?
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- We went to go get the refrigerator...
- [Judy] No, no, no.
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Who moved the dog?
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Heather did.
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[Judy]
She took the dog from the backyard...
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- Yes.
- [Judy] Just a second,
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So the backyard to the driveway...
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Just to... to the driveway,
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'cause that's where she pointed out
that the dog was chained
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to the driveway fence.
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[Karen] Yes.
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When we came back from the--
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We went to go get the refrigerator--
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[Judy] Just a minute.
What-- You didn't tell me,
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- So you left the house.
- Yes.
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[Judy]
What time did you leave the house?
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[Karen]
Mid-afternoon. It was, like--
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- [Judy] What time?
- Approximately four or five.
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[Judy]
Okay. And the dog at that time was where?
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With us, in the vehicle.
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So, you had the dog in the car.
So, the dog was in the backyard...
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- [Karen] Yes.
- And then, from the backyard,
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the dog went with you,
in the car?
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- Correct.
- [Judy] And then what?
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And then we picked up the refrigerator,
and we came back
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And then, she had chained her...
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[Judy]
Okay. So, from the car...
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From the car, the dog went
to the fence.
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Which is chained sort of midway
up the fence,
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according to the defendant,
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- sort of midway up the driveway,
- [Karen] Correct.
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[Judy]
is where she chained the dog?
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- Correct.
- [Judy] Is that correct?
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- Correct.
- [Judy] Then where did you go?
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And then I went to go get the dolly
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and bring it around
so we could get the fridge.
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[Judy] Okay, and where
did Ms. Stephens stay?
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She was in the driveway.
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And it was when you were coming
out of the backyard
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that you saw Ms. Stephens in the driveway?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] And saw the little dog?
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- Yes.
- She was in the driveway?
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Was she next to the dog?
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Go over there and point out where she was,
would you, in the driveway?
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- She was, uh--
- [Judy] She? Ms. Stephens?
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That Ms. Stephens, yes.
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- [Judy] Your friend?
- [Karen] Yes.
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Was right in the middle of the driveway,
near where the dog was chained?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] And show me
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where the defendant's house is,
'cause you had been in the house
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earlier that day.
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Point on that diagram where the house is.
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- Right here.
- [Judy] Where it says "defendant"?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] That's the whole house.
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And where's the front door?
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- Right here.
- [Judy] Up there?
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And where's the porch on the front door?
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- Right there.
- [Judy] Okay.
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Now, that's not where she was,
she was in the driveway?
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- Correct.
- [Judy] Okay, now go back.
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Now I'm gonna read to you
what your friend, Ms. Stephens, wrote,
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and swore to in her answer.
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"I was standing on the porch,
maneuvering the fridge inside,
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and I saw a little dog sniffing around
and walking up my driveway."
335
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She said she was on the porch.
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- Well, she was back--
- [Judy shushing]
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That's where she said she was,
on the porch.
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"I know the plaintiff's dog is a barker,
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since it has come
to the backside of my property
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and barked at my dog through the fence.
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The dog walked all the way
up the driveway to where my dog was."
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[Judy]
Now, you want to think back.
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Ms. Stephens says she was standing
on the porch.
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You were very certain
she was standing mid-driveway
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right near her dog.
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Which one is it?
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Well, we were trying
to maneuver the fridge--
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Which one is it?
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Was she on the porch,
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which is all the way at the other end,
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- [Karen] Yes.
- or was she mid-driveway?
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{\an8}- Mid-driveway.
- [Judy] She was mid-driveway?
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{\an8}- Yes.
- [Judy] So, Ms. Stephens
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{\an8}lied when she said she was on the porch?
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I didn't look at a police report,
listened to your--
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- It's all one-sided.
- [Judy] I listened to you...
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Yes, Your Honor.
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and I listened to your witness.
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- Yes.
- And you and the witness that you brought
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told two divergent stories.
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Two totally different stories.
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She was your witness.
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{\an8}[narrator]
Audrey Stevens is accusing her neighbor,
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{\an8}Heather Stephens,
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{\an8}of losing control of her pit bull.
367
00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:08,767
Heather claims Audrey's dog
ran onto her property.
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So, Ms. Stephens lied when she said
she was on the porch.
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That's what she says in her answer.
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"I was on the porch when this happened."
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- When, when I--
- [Judy] Do you understand?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] Sit.
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Can I see your vet bills, please?
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00:14:25,867 --> 00:14:28,500
Your Honor, I have a video of my dog.
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Can we present the video
that I have brought?
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00:14:31,834 --> 00:14:35,233
- You mean, for that day?
- Yes, ma'am-- Oh, not for that day.
377
00:14:35,734 --> 00:14:39,033
No, not for that day, but just to show you
that my dog is not vicious.
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That she likes to play with little dogs.
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Clearly, not on this day,
she didn't like to play with other dogs.
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00:14:44,333 --> 00:14:48,100
That dog is constantly barking at my dog
in the backyard, and that's the only--
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my dog loves dogs.
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- I have her obedience record--
- [Judy] Ms. Stephens,
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- Ms. Stephens?
- Yes?
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[Judy]
I want you to understand something.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Whether the Schnauzer is a barker,
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or not a barker,
I told you I didn't believe you
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when you told me that her dog
was off leash,
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I didn't believe that.
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00:15:07,433 --> 00:15:10,233
Either you or your witness lied.
I don't know which one.
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00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:13,500
So, I'm gonna have to assume
it was your witness.
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Do you want me to assume
it was your witness or you?
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One of you lied.
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She says you were
at a totally different place,
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she was coming out from the backyard,
that's where she was.
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She had gone to get the dolly.
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You said you were maneuvering
the refrigerator up on the porch.
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Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
Heh. Well, who is telling me the truth?
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- You want to tell me?
- It was a very hectic day--
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- [Judy] It was a very hectic day.
- Yes.
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{\an8}[Judy]
And I have photographs of your dogs,
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{\an8}despite the fact that you tell me
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{\an8}that your dog is never off leash.
404
00:15:40,333 --> 00:15:42,266
Always on leash, I have three photographs,
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taken three different times, of your dog,
406
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being off leash.
407
00:15:45,934 --> 00:15:49,133
Now, there's no question
that your dog caused the injuries
408
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to the dog.
409
00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:53,133
This has been going on
for over a year in court.
410
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They dismissed it in criminal court.
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And there's a reason
why they dismissed it.
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- I...
- [Judy] Just a second.
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- [Heather] Yes, ma'am?
- You're gonna try to tell me
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why they dismissed the case
in criminal court?
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00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:02,700
You have a document?
416
00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,567
I mean, I understand
that they filed a criminal case
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- against you.
- [Heather] There was a criminal case
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- that was dismissed, Your Honor.
- [Judy] That's okay.
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00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,700
That has nothing to do
with this civil proceeding.
420
00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,700
You know, somebody may not
want to put you in jail
421
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,333
because you let your pit bull
roam around without a leash.
422
00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,300
Somebody may not want to put you in jail,
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but you are clearly responsible
for this dog's injuries.
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00:16:20,533 --> 00:16:22,133
You are. If you have a pit bull,
425
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and pit bulls can be dangerous dogs,
426
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they can turn on a dime
and cause serious injury.
427
00:16:26,867 --> 00:16:28,800
Pit bull lovers:
I don't want to hear from you.
428
00:16:28,867 --> 00:16:31,333
I've been going through it for 25 years.
429
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,333
Some of them are nice,
some of them are not nice.
430
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,800
But when they're not nice,
and they turn,
431
00:16:37,867 --> 00:16:42,333
they have configurations that can cause
a great deal of injury.
432
00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,633
One killed a woman
who was babysitting for it.
433
00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:48,033
{\an8}- I understand, Your Honor.
- [Judy] You-- Do--
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{\an8}[Judy]
So you do understand? You do--
435
00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:51,700
{\an8}I believe-- may I say something?
436
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,800
I believe a dog is how it was raised.
437
00:16:55,867 --> 00:16:58,033
Okay? I've raised that dog from a baby.
438
00:16:58,133 --> 00:17:00,533
She's not--
She's never been mean like that.
439
00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,800
That dog, that lives next door,
440
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which is Ms. Stevens' dog,
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yaps at my dog every single day
she goes outside.
442
00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,300
Yaps, yaps, yaps, yaps at her.
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00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,033
[Judy]
So what you're telling me is your dog--
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[chuckling]
S-so... if what you're telling me
445
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is that your dog had the right
to be aggravated
446
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because the dog yaps at her
all the time,
447
00:17:18,233 --> 00:17:21,033
that's not a reason to let any dog,
448
00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:24,967
but especially a dog that has potential
to cause injury
449
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out without a leash,
and you do that regularly.
450
00:17:30,233 --> 00:17:32,400
And you can't do that.
451
00:17:33,367 --> 00:17:36,066
Your Honor, can I also add
that I did have a brief interaction
452
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with Ms. Stephens
on the day that it occurred?
453
00:17:38,967 --> 00:17:42,800
And it seemed like she did
come out of the street with the dog.
454
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I don't believe she was in the driveway.
455
00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:47,033
She offered help for me.
456
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,533
- [Judy] She did?
- Yes, before I went home.
457
00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,233
- [Judy] Where was she?
- Not to interrupt, but I--
458
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We also have video of her
acknowledging fault
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with the--the officer's body cam video.
460
00:17:57,266 --> 00:17:58,200
What is that?
461
00:17:58,266 --> 00:18:01,200
Um, they have a body cam on
when he was talking to her,
462
00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:04,667
when she said she's really sorry,
and she's going to pay the vet bill.
463
00:18:04,767 --> 00:18:06,333
[Judy]
Oh. May I see that, please?
464
00:18:08,934 --> 00:18:10,133
I was getting ready
to take her for a walk.
465
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We were moving in a fridge.
466
00:18:11,734 --> 00:18:12,700
Oh, okay.
467
00:18:12,767 --> 00:18:16,133
And she jumped out of the car
when she seen that little dog,
468
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,300
'cause I was getting ready to get
in the car and... gotcha...
469
00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:20,867
right on the corner here...
470
00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:23,700
Okay... so were they just
across the street, then?
471
00:18:23,767 --> 00:18:24,700
No, they were right here.
472
00:18:24,767 --> 00:18:26,700
They were just here
right on the sidewalk. Okay.
473
00:18:26,767 --> 00:18:28,767
I'm, well, if I'm going
to pay the bill, I know...
474
00:18:28,834 --> 00:18:30,300
and whatever I got to do.
475
00:18:30,367 --> 00:18:32,633
Yeah, so she's down at the clinic now...
476
00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:34,433
It was a bite on her,
on the shoulder, I think...
477
00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:35,500
on the shoulder?
478
00:18:35,567 --> 00:18:36,700
- Yeah.
- Okay.
479
00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:38,533
And he, she was just protecting me...
480
00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,600
sure.
481
00:18:39,667 --> 00:18:41,800
That's all.
And I'll pay the bill.
482
00:18:41,867 --> 00:18:43,533
- Then you're responsible for it so...
- And I want to apologize.
483
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,200
- Sure.
- I feel bad.
484
00:18:46,367 --> 00:18:47,433
[Heather]
- I--
- I do feel bad about it.
485
00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:49,934
I do love d-- I'm a dog lover.
486
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,266
And I do feel bad.
487
00:18:51,333 --> 00:18:53,700
And I believe she just said,
the defendant just said
488
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,834
that she was in the street
when that happened.
489
00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:58,467
It was in my driveway
that it happened, Your Honor.
490
00:18:58,533 --> 00:19:01,333
I'm just saying...
we want to be honest in court.
491
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,500
[Judy]
Was the dog...
492
00:19:02,567 --> 00:19:04,900
was your dog on a chain?
493
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,600
My dog was on a chain, Your Honor.
494
00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:10,367
Another thing, I never got my side
of the story added to that at all,
495
00:19:10,433 --> 00:19:11,834
it was all one-sided.
496
00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:13,667
The whole police report
was one-sided, Your Honor.
497
00:19:13,734 --> 00:19:15,667
- I didn't look at a police report, madam.
- [Emilee] I have one right here--
498
00:19:15,734 --> 00:19:17,200
Shh, just a second.
I didn't look at a police report,
499
00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:20,000
I listened to your--
I listened to you...
500
00:19:20,066 --> 00:19:21,000
Yes, Your Honor.
501
00:19:21,066 --> 00:19:22,200
[Judy]
And I listened to your witness.
502
00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:23,567
- Yes.
- [Judy] And you
503
00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:27,333
and the witness that you brought
told two divergent stories,
504
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,767
two totally different stories.
505
00:19:30,867 --> 00:19:32,166
She was your witness.
506
00:19:32,233 --> 00:19:34,233
- Yes.
- [Judy] Easily confused,
507
00:19:34,333 --> 00:19:37,500
but she was your witness,
and you should have prepared her better,
508
00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:40,367
consistent with what your answer was.
Do you understand?
509
00:19:40,433 --> 00:19:43,667
- Yes, Your Honor, I wasn't--
- [Judy] Very, very good. Okay.
510
00:19:43,734 --> 00:19:45,333
Pain and suffering, unfortunately,
511
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,133
is not yours.
512
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,166
If you had had injury to yourself,
513
00:19:50,233 --> 00:19:51,667
and I think that the law
is a little crazy there,
514
00:19:51,734 --> 00:19:54,100
but we can't gauge pain and suffering
for an animal.
515
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,233
Anyway, your vet bills were $435.
516
00:19:56,333 --> 00:19:59,567
Your Honor, we just added that
just because, you know--
517
00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:01,166
- [Judy] I understand.
- Blatant disregard,
518
00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:02,900
and sh-- and the dog's still out
all the time.
519
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,100
[Judy]
Oh, no, excuse me.
520
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,834
The total with tax was $441.
Judgement for the plaintiff.
521
00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:09,367
- Thank you very much.
- Thank you.
522
00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:11,066
[bailiff]
This court is adjourned.
523
00:20:13,767 --> 00:20:16,433
{\an8}It's been a struggle, just because
of how long it's been going on.
524
00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:17,367
It was a crazy day.
525
00:20:17,433 --> 00:20:20,266
The dog almost got
to our dog's leg bone,
526
00:20:20,367 --> 00:20:22,367
{\an8}- and broke it.
- 'Cause the dog is always yapping
527
00:20:22,433 --> 00:20:24,166
{\an8}- at my dog.
- It was pretty scary.
528
00:20:24,233 --> 00:20:25,934
{\an8}So, it surprised me that that happened.
529
00:20:26,033 --> 00:20:27,200
{\an8}He was bleeding and everything.
530
00:20:27,266 --> 00:20:28,567
{\an8}She's not vicious whatsoever.
531
00:20:28,667 --> 00:20:30,000
{\an8}We ran him up to the hospital.
532
00:20:30,066 --> 00:20:31,667
{\an8}The Animal Control never came to my house.
533
00:20:31,734 --> 00:20:33,900
{\an8}I had a feeling that Judy
would see right through her, so...
534
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,500
{\an8}I love dogs,
and I felt sorry for the little dog.
535
00:20:36,567 --> 00:20:40,100
{\an8}I'm happy about the settlement,
and how we got our money.
536
00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:43,667
I'm not even get on my soapbox
537
00:20:43,734 --> 00:20:46,000
with regard to dogs
that are potentially dangerous.
538
00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:50,900
There's no question that this lady
has a dog that she's had from a puppy,
539
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,934
and she-- the dog has never
caused her any difficulty.
540
00:20:54,033 --> 00:20:57,000
But there's also no question that
she lets that dog out without a leash.
541
00:20:57,066 --> 00:20:58,900
I mean, they had proof
of different occasions
542
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,433
of the dog out and about.
543
00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,567
- After... this happened.
- [Sarah] After this incident.
544
00:21:02,633 --> 00:21:03,567
After this incident.
545
00:21:03,633 --> 00:21:04,967
So, you can--
I think that's also a great lesson,
546
00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:07,266
that you can feel bad
and be an animal lover,
547
00:21:07,333 --> 00:21:08,934
and want to take care of the bill,
548
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,500
but if you don't take
any subsequent remedial measures
549
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,567
to fix your bad behavior
that caused this great deal of injury,
550
00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:17,333
then I don't really believe you,
that you feel sorry,
551
00:21:17,433 --> 00:21:18,433
or that you're a dog lover.
552
00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:20,900
Well, that's an-- [chuckling]
that's an interesting perspective.
553
00:21:20,967 --> 00:21:22,400
Yeah.
I mean, you knew what you had to do
554
00:21:22,467 --> 00:21:25,266
to ensure the safety of the dogs
and other people in your neighborhood,
555
00:21:25,333 --> 00:21:26,734
and you chose not to do that, so...
556
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,100
- After it had already...
- [Sarah] Yeah.
557
00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:29,300
- had an incident.
- Exactly.
558
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,633
- [Judy] At least one.
- Yeah.
559
00:21:32,467 --> 00:21:33,600
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560
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561
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