1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:01,867 {\an8}You were out walking the family dog? 2 00:00:01,967 --> 00:00:03,200 {\an8}Yes. 3 00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:05,500 The pit bull latched onto my dog, 4 00:00:05,567 --> 00:00:07,700 and my dog was squealing a lot. 5 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,033 My dog is not vicious. 6 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:10,800 And she likes to play with little dogs. 7 00:00:10,867 --> 00:00:13,633 Clearly, on this day, she didn't like to play with other dogs. 8 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:15,967 [narrator] This is Judy Justice. 9 00:00:16,033 --> 00:00:17,967 {\an8}♪ 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,600 {\an8}Audrey Stevens is suing her neighbor, Heather Stephens, 11 00:00:36,667 --> 00:00:40,734 {\an8}for vet bills and pain and suffering after a dog attack. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,700 [bailiff] Court come to order. 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,300 - All rise. - Have a seat, please. 14 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:48,367 Hello, Judge. Case 2139, Stevens versus Stephens. 15 00:00:48,467 --> 00:00:50,200 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 16 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:51,800 [Judy] Although your names sound the same, 17 00:00:51,867 --> 00:00:54,667 they're spelled differently, and you are clearly not related, 18 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:55,700 based upon this case. 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,367 - You live in the same general area? - Yes. 20 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:00,600 [Judy] Okay. Could you step up? 21 00:01:01,767 --> 00:01:02,700 Tell me your name. 22 00:01:02,767 --> 00:01:03,967 - Emilee Fehringer. - [Judy] This is your daughter? 23 00:01:04,066 --> 00:01:04,934 Yes. 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,300 [Judy] How long have you been living in your house? 25 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Eight and a half years. 26 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:09,900 - How old are you? - Twenty-two. 27 00:01:09,967 --> 00:01:11,233 Tell me what you do. 28 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:13,800 I work at a bakery right now, and I'm a full-time college student. 29 00:01:13,900 --> 00:01:16,300 - [Judy] Where do you go to school? - Idaho State University. 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,200 You were out walking the family dog? 31 00:01:18,266 --> 00:01:19,867 {\an8}- Yes, I was. - [Judy] Family has one dog? 32 00:01:19,934 --> 00:01:20,934 {\an8}Just one, yeah. 33 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,000 {\an8}[Judy] What kind of dog? 34 00:01:22,066 --> 00:01:23,266 {\an8}It's a miniature Schnauzer. 35 00:01:23,367 --> 00:01:25,600 Weighs about ten, 12 pounds? 36 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:28,066 Yeah, around there, 15-ish. 37 00:01:28,133 --> 00:01:29,900 - [Judy] How old is the dog? - [Emilee] He is nine. 38 00:01:29,967 --> 00:01:31,000 [Judy] You've had him since he was a puppy? 39 00:01:31,066 --> 00:01:33,367 - Yes. - [Judy] This case has to do with 40 00:01:33,433 --> 00:01:36,133 injuries that your dog sustained? 41 00:01:36,233 --> 00:01:38,800 {\an8}- Yes. - [Judy] And the payment of vet bills 42 00:01:38,900 --> 00:01:42,767 {\an8}by the defendant, who you allege has two dogs, unleashed, 43 00:01:42,834 --> 00:01:45,533 {\an8}that attacked your dog while you were walking? 44 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,533 - [Emilee] Correct. - Him. 45 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,200 - Just... one dog. - One dog. 46 00:01:49,266 --> 00:01:51,200 - [Judy] One? - One dog attacked our dog. 47 00:01:51,266 --> 00:01:52,700 You have a pit bull? 48 00:01:52,767 --> 00:01:54,000 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] What color? 49 00:01:54,066 --> 00:01:56,400 - White and brown. - [Judy] How old? 50 00:01:56,467 --> 00:01:58,000 She's five. 51 00:01:58,066 --> 00:01:59,633 Is that the only dog you have? 52 00:01:59,734 --> 00:02:01,033 {\an8}- Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] Okay. 53 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:02,767 {\an8}Tell me what date you were walking the dog 54 00:02:02,834 --> 00:02:04,000 {\an8}that this incident happened? 55 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:06,600 July 26th, 2021. 56 00:02:06,667 --> 00:02:08,166 Time? 57 00:02:08,266 --> 00:02:09,934 - Around 8:00 p.m. - [Judy] Dark? 58 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,066 - No. - [Judy] Still light out? 59 00:02:12,133 --> 00:02:13,000 Yes, ma'am. 60 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:14,133 [Judy] Were you walking in the neighborhood? 61 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,367 I was. I was walking down the sidewalk, 62 00:02:16,467 --> 00:02:18,467 and I passed the defendant's house, 63 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:20,166 and I reached the end of the sidewalk. 64 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:21,767 - [Judy] Your dog's name is what? - Jax. 65 00:02:21,834 --> 00:02:23,800 - [Judy] On a leash? - [Emilee] Yes, ma'am. 66 00:02:23,867 --> 00:02:25,500 [Judy] Do you always walk the dog on a leash? 67 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,066 {\an8}- We do. - [Judy] Tell me what happened. 68 00:02:27,133 --> 00:02:30,800 {\an8}I was walking down the sidewalk, and I reached the end of the sidewalk. 69 00:02:30,867 --> 00:02:33,500 I was about to cross the street, and-- 70 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,767 [Judy] Do you have a picture or diagram? 71 00:02:34,834 --> 00:02:35,700 - I do. I have a diagram. - Yes. 72 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:36,667 May I see it, please? 73 00:02:36,734 --> 00:02:38,767 Oh. Okay. There it is. 74 00:02:38,834 --> 00:02:41,133 Would you go over to the diagram 75 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,066 so that you can point directly, 76 00:02:43,133 --> 00:02:45,500 and I can understand where this happened? 77 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,266 [Emilee] I was standing right here, 78 00:02:49,333 --> 00:02:52,166 and I noticed the dog come up on my left side. 79 00:02:52,266 --> 00:02:53,433 [Judy] On your left side? 80 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:54,600 - [Emilee] Yes. - [Judy] Did you notice 81 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:55,700 from where the dog came? 82 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,333 It seemed to be out in the street when it approached me. 83 00:02:58,433 --> 00:03:00,400 [Judy] So it didn't come from the defendant's house, 84 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:02,433 - it came from the street? - [Emilee] Yes. 85 00:03:02,533 --> 00:03:05,133 It had been on the left-hand side of me, 86 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,433 and then, the pit bull latched onto my dog, 87 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:10,667 on its leg. 88 00:03:10,734 --> 00:03:12,934 - [Judy] What color pit bull? - [Emilee] Brown and white. 89 00:03:13,033 --> 00:03:15,400 Was there any fighting or a scuffle before? 90 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:18,066 {\an8}No, ma'am. It just ran up to me, 91 00:03:18,166 --> 00:03:21,767 {\an8}and it latched onto my dog's leg, and it picked my dog up, 92 00:03:21,834 --> 00:03:24,367 {\an8}and was yanking it around in the air. 93 00:03:24,433 --> 00:03:28,133 And it was very loud, and my dog was squealing a lot, 94 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,834 and crying out very loudly, 95 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:32,533 so I yanked his leash, 96 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,200 so that I didn't have to bend down and get hurt myself. 97 00:03:35,266 --> 00:03:36,834 And I picked him up, and I ran back-- 98 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:38,767 So you yanked him up by his leash? 99 00:03:38,867 --> 00:03:40,333 - I did. - [Judy] Okay. 100 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,500 Did he have, what kind of a collar on? 101 00:03:42,567 --> 00:03:45,400 A regular collar or one of those harnesses? 102 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:49,500 We have both, so I'm not sure which one he was wearing at that time. 103 00:03:49,567 --> 00:03:51,500 But I believe he was wearing the collar. 104 00:03:51,567 --> 00:03:52,834 - Just the collar? - Yes. 105 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:55,500 - So you lifted him up by the collar? - Yes. 106 00:03:55,567 --> 00:03:56,900 [Judy] Did you see where the the dog went? 107 00:03:57,433 --> 00:03:58,600 I do not remember. 108 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:02,900 I think the pit bull ran back into the defendant's household. 109 00:04:02,967 --> 00:04:03,934 But you're not sure? 110 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,967 I'm not sure. 111 00:04:05,066 --> 00:04:06,100 What did you do next? 112 00:04:06,166 --> 00:04:10,200 - We took the dog to the animal hospital. - Okay. 113 00:04:10,266 --> 00:04:11,633 You can go back now. 114 00:04:14,734 --> 00:04:15,900 - Stand close to your mom. - [Emilee] Sorry. 115 00:04:15,967 --> 00:04:17,400 Had you ever seen this dog before? 116 00:04:17,467 --> 00:04:18,734 I have. 117 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,400 [Judy] Where had you seen the dog before? 118 00:04:20,467 --> 00:04:21,767 [Emilee] I've seen the pit bull 119 00:04:21,834 --> 00:04:23,266 in multiple places around the neighborhood. 120 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:25,133 - I've seen it-- - That same dog? 121 00:04:25,233 --> 00:04:26,433 Yes. 122 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:27,900 I've seen it across the street, 123 00:04:27,967 --> 00:04:31,400 in the... across-the-street neighbor's yard, 124 00:04:31,467 --> 00:04:33,266 and I've also seen it in my yard, 125 00:04:33,333 --> 00:04:37,200 and it's also been next to my chain link fence before. 126 00:04:37,266 --> 00:04:41,200 Did you, or you, Ms. Stevens, ever have a conversation 127 00:04:41,266 --> 00:04:44,100 with the defendant about the dog being unleashed? 128 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:46,133 I have not spoken to her at all. 129 00:04:46,233 --> 00:04:48,567 [Judy] For how long have you seen her unleashed dog 130 00:04:48,633 --> 00:04:50,266 out and about? 131 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:53,066 {\an8}Probably about ten times. 132 00:04:53,133 --> 00:04:54,900 {\an8}[Judy] Have you ever said anything to your mother 133 00:04:54,967 --> 00:04:57,300 {\an8}- about seeing this dog outside? - I have. 134 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,567 Okay... I'm listening. 135 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:02,467 Yes, ma'am. May I show you on the-- 136 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:04,133 - [Judy] Absolutely. - on the diagram? Thank you. 137 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,467 Absolutely. 138 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:06,967 [Heather] Okay. 139 00:05:07,033 --> 00:05:07,900 First of all... 140 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,033 [Judy] Don't-don't tell me "First of all." 141 00:05:09,133 --> 00:05:10,300 - Okay. - [Judy] Were you there 142 00:05:10,367 --> 00:05:13,200 at approximately 8:00 p.m. on July 26th? 143 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:15,400 - Correct. I was. - [Judy] Okay, where were you? 144 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:16,467 Show me where you were. 145 00:05:16,533 --> 00:05:17,700 I was right here. 146 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,300 I was loading a fridge into my home. 147 00:05:19,367 --> 00:05:23,700 I had my dog right here, in the middle of the driveway, 148 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,834 chained to the fence. Okay? 149 00:05:25,900 --> 00:05:28,834 She came from across the crosswalk here, 150 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:31,400 because I have a witness, as well, to show... 151 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:34,834 she came from the crosswalk with her dog in front of her. 152 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:37,133 She came across, right into my driveway, 153 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,967 the dog went into my driveway, 154 00:05:39,033 --> 00:05:42,900 and my dog went up to her, and they began to fight. 155 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,667 - You're going like this. - [Heather] Uh-huh. Yeah. 156 00:05:44,734 --> 00:05:45,867 You're going like this. 157 00:05:45,967 --> 00:05:47,066 I don't want you to go like this. 158 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:49,033 - Okay. - [Judy] So your dog 159 00:05:49,133 --> 00:05:51,266 - was on a chain... - [Heather] Yes, ma'am. 160 00:05:51,333 --> 00:05:54,734 [Judy] ...a chain that extended 161 00:05:54,834 --> 00:05:57,333 - almost to the end of your driveway? - Correct. 162 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,600 {\an8}[Judy] So show me exactly, with your finger, 163 00:06:00,667 --> 00:06:02,467 {\an8}- Okay. - [Judy] where, 164 00:06:02,567 --> 00:06:04,633 {\an8}where you say this confrontation 165 00:06:04,734 --> 00:06:08,100 between the pit bull and the Schnauzer took place? 166 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,266 Right here, ma'am. 167 00:06:09,367 --> 00:06:11,033 [Judy] Well, you're pointing to about a f-- 168 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:12,867 well, you-- now, you keep moving your finger. 169 00:06:12,934 --> 00:06:14,233 Right here. 170 00:06:16,867 --> 00:06:18,300 You know that I don't believe 171 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,266 that your dog hasn't been out and about in the neighborhood 172 00:06:20,367 --> 00:06:21,700 - unleashed? - No, ma'am. 173 00:06:21,767 --> 00:06:23,700 I don't let my dog off a leash. 174 00:06:23,767 --> 00:06:26,233 We do have pictures of the dog as well, 175 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:27,533 - if you'd like to see those? - [Judy] Oh, do you? 176 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,367 - Yes. - You mean, out and about? 177 00:06:29,433 --> 00:06:31,433 - Yes. - I'd like to see that. 178 00:06:42,533 --> 00:06:44,567 {\an8}[narrator] Audrey Stevens claims her neighbor, 179 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:45,934 {\an8}Heather Stephens, 180 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,600 {\an8}owes for vet bills after her dog was injured by Heather's pit bull. 181 00:06:51,567 --> 00:06:52,567 Now you're moving your fingers. 182 00:06:52,633 --> 00:06:54,867 So you're saying it's right at the end of your driveway? 183 00:06:54,934 --> 00:06:56,800 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] Just a second. 184 00:06:56,900 --> 00:06:59,033 - It was up further five seconds ago. - [Heather] Okay. 185 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:00,800 - Now you-- - [Heather] My dog was right here, ma'am. 186 00:07:00,867 --> 00:07:03,100 - Yeah. - The fight occurred right here. 187 00:07:03,166 --> 00:07:05,500 Well, now your finger is at a different place, madam. 188 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,100 I'm just letting you know, 189 00:07:07,166 --> 00:07:09,600 your finger moves up the driveway. 190 00:07:09,667 --> 00:07:11,834 - Right, I'd say right here. - [Judy] Okay. 191 00:07:13,033 --> 00:07:14,166 Yes, ma'am. 192 00:07:16,467 --> 00:07:18,000 You know that I don't believe that. 193 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:20,266 I know you don't believe that, Your Honor, but that's what happened. 194 00:07:20,333 --> 00:07:21,266 [Judy] You know that I don't believe 195 00:07:21,333 --> 00:07:23,934 that your dog hasn't been out and about in the neighborhood? 196 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,533 Do you know that I don't believe that? 197 00:07:25,633 --> 00:07:27,166 I don't think she's lying to me 198 00:07:27,266 --> 00:07:29,767 that your dog's been out and about in the neighborhood, unleashed. 199 00:07:29,834 --> 00:07:32,533 No, ma'am. I don't let my dog off a leash. 200 00:07:32,633 --> 00:07:34,400 We do have pictures of the dog as well. 201 00:07:34,467 --> 00:07:35,533 If you'd like to see those. 202 00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:36,767 - Oh, do you? - [Emilee and Heather] Yes. 203 00:07:36,834 --> 00:07:37,700 You mean out and about? 204 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,600 - Yes. - [Judy] I'd like to see that. 205 00:07:39,667 --> 00:07:41,467 - [Heather] And this is after-- - Shh! Shh! 206 00:07:41,533 --> 00:07:43,533 - [Heather] Sorry. - I don't care before or after. 207 00:07:43,633 --> 00:07:46,834 She just said, "I don't let my dog go out without a leash." 208 00:07:47,166 --> 00:07:48,867 [Audrey] Well, this is the injury... 209 00:07:59,166 --> 00:08:01,934 {\an8}[Judy] Ms. Stephens, these pictures belie the fact 210 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,533 {\an8}that your dog is out leashed only. 211 00:08:06,734 --> 00:08:07,700 Do you want to see the photographs? 212 00:08:07,767 --> 00:08:09,033 Yes, ma'am, please. 213 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:19,667 Yes, Your Honor, I do see that, 214 00:08:19,734 --> 00:08:21,834 but I was outside with my dog at that time-- 215 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:23,667 I don't care whether you were outside with your dog or not, 216 00:08:23,734 --> 00:08:25,867 you said your dog is never out without a leash. 217 00:08:25,934 --> 00:08:29,333 That's not true. That's not true. 218 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,033 Were you a witness to this? 219 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:33,166 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] Be very careful. 220 00:08:33,233 --> 00:08:34,233 Do you understand? 221 00:08:34,333 --> 00:08:35,200 [Karen] Yes, ma'am. 222 00:08:37,667 --> 00:08:38,533 [Judy] Tell me your name. 223 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,700 My name is Karen Brennan. 224 00:08:39,767 --> 00:08:40,734 [Judy] Are you a neighbor? 225 00:08:40,834 --> 00:08:42,834 - No, I'm a friend. - [Judy] A friend of who's? 226 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:44,433 Of Heather Stephens. 227 00:08:44,533 --> 00:08:45,433 Go ahead. 228 00:08:45,533 --> 00:08:47,667 - [Karen] W-- On that day... - On what day? 229 00:08:47,734 --> 00:08:50,800 {\an8}On July 26th, I was helping Heather with the fridge. 230 00:08:50,867 --> 00:08:53,233 {\an8}- [Judy] With what? - With the refrigerator. 231 00:08:53,333 --> 00:08:55,667 {\an8}And I was approaching the driveway... 232 00:08:55,734 --> 00:08:57,000 [Judy] Just a second, you were helping her 233 00:08:57,066 --> 00:08:58,467 with the refrigerator, doing what? 234 00:08:58,533 --> 00:09:00,667 Bringing the dolly out, so it could be moved. 235 00:09:00,767 --> 00:09:02,433 Bringing the dolly out from where? 236 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,400 - From the side of the house. - [Judy] And? 237 00:09:04,467 --> 00:09:07,166 And I looked over, and I saw the little dog, 238 00:09:07,266 --> 00:09:08,400 - and it caught my eye-- - [Judy] You saw what? 239 00:09:08,467 --> 00:09:10,233 [Karen] The little dog, and it caught my eye, 240 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:14,600 because every time before, and, you know, anytime I put the dog out, 241 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:16,166 Ms. Stephens' dog, 242 00:09:16,266 --> 00:09:18,500 that that little dog, if it was in the back yard, 243 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:19,767 would continually bark at-- 244 00:09:19,834 --> 00:09:22,166 Just a second. Did you put the dog out that day? 245 00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:23,834 No, I did not that day. 246 00:09:23,934 --> 00:09:25,600 - But I recognized the dog. - [Judy] So you did not 247 00:09:25,667 --> 00:09:27,500 - put the dog out... - No. 248 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,333 - that day? - Not that day. 249 00:09:29,433 --> 00:09:32,000 Okay. What time did you get to Ms. Stephens' house? 250 00:09:32,767 --> 00:09:34,000 Um, mid-afternoon. 251 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:35,300 [Judy] What's her dog's name? 252 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,900 - Lilly. - Was Lilly chained to the fence 253 00:09:36,967 --> 00:09:39,166 - all afternoon? - [Karen] When we were-- 254 00:09:39,266 --> 00:09:41,500 [shushing] Was Lilly chained to the fence 255 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,667 all afternoon? That's either a yes or a no. 256 00:09:43,767 --> 00:09:44,967 When you were there. 257 00:09:45,066 --> 00:09:46,567 That's either a yes or a no. 258 00:09:46,633 --> 00:09:49,533 Was Lilly chained to the fence all afternoon when you were there? 259 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,900 You said you got there mid-afternoon. This happened at eight o'clock. 260 00:09:51,967 --> 00:09:54,667 Was the dog chained to the fence all the time you were there? 261 00:09:54,767 --> 00:09:56,767 - Yes or a no? Or I don't know. - No. 262 00:09:56,834 --> 00:09:57,734 - No? - [Judy] No. 263 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,133 Where was the dog? 264 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,100 In the backyard. 265 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:01,066 [Judy] Until what time? 266 00:10:01,133 --> 00:10:04,834 {\an8}Until around seven, seven-ish 267 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:07,066 or so, I don't know the exact time. 268 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:09,233 - But it was mid-evening. - [Judy] Okay. 269 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:11,300 And what happened at that time, when the dog was moved 270 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,967 from the backyard outside of the backyard? 271 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:15,734 Who moved the dog? 272 00:10:16,133 --> 00:10:18,400 - We went to go get the refrigerator... - [Judy] No, no, no. 273 00:10:18,467 --> 00:10:20,467 Who moved the dog? 274 00:10:20,567 --> 00:10:21,567 Heather did. 275 00:10:21,633 --> 00:10:23,166 [Judy] She took the dog from the backyard... 276 00:10:23,266 --> 00:10:24,600 - Yes. - [Judy] Just a second, 277 00:10:24,667 --> 00:10:27,433 So the backyard to the driveway... 278 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:30,000 Just to... to the driveway, 279 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:32,233 'cause that's where she pointed out that the dog was chained 280 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:33,667 to the driveway fence. 281 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,934 [Karen] Yes. 282 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,100 When we came back from the-- 283 00:10:36,166 --> 00:10:37,467 We went to go get the refrigerator-- 284 00:10:37,567 --> 00:10:39,133 [Judy] Just a minute. What-- You didn't tell me, 285 00:10:39,233 --> 00:10:41,133 - So you left the house. - Yes. 286 00:10:41,233 --> 00:10:42,667 [Judy] What time did you leave the house? 287 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:44,467 [Karen] Mid-afternoon. It was, like-- 288 00:10:44,567 --> 00:10:46,967 - [Judy] What time? - Approximately four or five. 289 00:10:47,066 --> 00:10:49,233 [Judy] Okay. And the dog at that time was where? 290 00:10:49,300 --> 00:10:50,734 With us, in the vehicle. 291 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,567 So, you had the dog in the car. So, the dog was in the backyard... 292 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:56,633 - [Karen] Yes. - And then, from the backyard, 293 00:10:56,734 --> 00:10:58,767 the dog went with you, in the car? 294 00:10:58,834 --> 00:11:00,533 - Correct. - [Judy] And then what? 295 00:11:00,633 --> 00:11:03,600 And then we picked up the refrigerator, and we came back 296 00:11:03,667 --> 00:11:06,867 And then, she had chained her... 297 00:11:06,967 --> 00:11:09,200 [Judy] Okay. So, from the car... 298 00:11:10,567 --> 00:11:14,300 From the car, the dog went to the fence. 299 00:11:14,367 --> 00:11:16,967 Which is chained sort of midway up the fence, 300 00:11:17,033 --> 00:11:18,734 according to the defendant, 301 00:11:18,834 --> 00:11:20,967 - sort of midway up the driveway, - [Karen] Correct. 302 00:11:21,033 --> 00:11:22,300 [Judy] is where she chained the dog? 303 00:11:22,367 --> 00:11:23,900 - Correct. - [Judy] Is that correct? 304 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,900 - Correct. - [Judy] Then where did you go? 305 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,166 And then I went to go get the dolly 306 00:11:28,233 --> 00:11:30,533 and bring it around so we could get the fridge. 307 00:11:30,633 --> 00:11:32,700 [Judy] Okay, and where did Ms. Stephens stay? 308 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,734 She was in the driveway. 309 00:11:34,834 --> 00:11:38,233 And it was when you were coming out of the backyard 310 00:11:38,333 --> 00:11:40,967 that you saw Ms. Stephens in the driveway? 311 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:43,400 - Yes. - [Judy] And saw the little dog? 312 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:44,867 - Yes. - She was in the driveway? 313 00:11:44,967 --> 00:11:46,233 Was she next to the dog? 314 00:11:46,333 --> 00:11:49,200 Go over there and point out where she was, would you, in the driveway? 315 00:11:51,133 --> 00:11:53,533 - She was, uh-- - [Judy] She? Ms. Stephens? 316 00:11:53,633 --> 00:11:54,734 That Ms. Stephens, yes. 317 00:11:54,834 --> 00:11:55,800 - [Judy] Your friend? - [Karen] Yes. 318 00:11:55,867 --> 00:11:58,800 Was right in the middle of the driveway, near where the dog was chained? 319 00:11:58,867 --> 00:12:00,533 - Yes. - [Judy] And show me 320 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,367 where the defendant's house is, 'cause you had been in the house 321 00:12:03,433 --> 00:12:05,700 earlier that day. 322 00:12:05,767 --> 00:12:07,967 Point on that diagram where the house is. 323 00:12:08,066 --> 00:12:09,800 - Right here. - [Judy] Where it says "defendant"? 324 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:11,200 - Yes. - [Judy] That's the whole house. 325 00:12:11,266 --> 00:12:12,800 And where's the front door? 326 00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:14,700 - Right here. - [Judy] Up there? 327 00:12:14,767 --> 00:12:16,633 And where's the porch on the front door? 328 00:12:16,734 --> 00:12:18,133 - Right there. - [Judy] Okay. 329 00:12:18,233 --> 00:12:20,400 Now, that's not where she was, she was in the driveway? 330 00:12:20,467 --> 00:12:22,066 - Correct. - [Judy] Okay, now go back. 331 00:12:22,133 --> 00:12:25,867 Now I'm gonna read to you what your friend, Ms. Stephens, wrote, 332 00:12:25,934 --> 00:12:28,266 and swore to in her answer. 333 00:12:28,934 --> 00:12:33,633 "I was standing on the porch, maneuvering the fridge inside, 334 00:12:33,734 --> 00:12:38,266 and I saw a little dog sniffing around and walking up my driveway." 335 00:12:38,367 --> 00:12:40,767 She said she was on the porch. 336 00:12:40,867 --> 00:12:41,967 - Well, she was back-- - [Judy shushing] 337 00:12:42,066 --> 00:12:44,767 That's where she said she was, on the porch. 338 00:12:44,867 --> 00:12:47,367 "I know the plaintiff's dog is a barker, 339 00:12:47,433 --> 00:12:50,533 since it has come to the backside of my property 340 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,100 and barked at my dog through the fence. 341 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,066 The dog walked all the way up the driveway to where my dog was." 342 00:12:57,133 --> 00:12:59,467 [Judy] Now, you want to think back. 343 00:12:59,567 --> 00:13:02,700 Ms. Stephens says she was standing on the porch. 344 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,934 You were very certain she was standing mid-driveway 345 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,200 right near her dog. 346 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:08,333 Which one is it? 347 00:13:08,633 --> 00:13:10,500 Well, we were trying to maneuver the fridge-- 348 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,367 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 349 00:13:13,467 --> 00:13:14,800 Which one is it? 350 00:13:14,867 --> 00:13:16,333 Was she on the porch, 351 00:13:16,433 --> 00:13:18,600 which is all the way at the other end, 352 00:13:18,667 --> 00:13:22,433 - [Karen] Yes. - or was she mid-driveway? 353 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:24,533 {\an8}- Mid-driveway. - [Judy] She was mid-driveway? 354 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,934 {\an8}- Yes. - [Judy] So, Ms. Stephens 355 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,300 {\an8}lied when she said she was on the porch? 356 00:13:30,867 --> 00:13:32,600 I didn't look at a police report, listened to your-- 357 00:13:32,667 --> 00:13:34,000 - It's all one-sided. - [Judy] I listened to you... 358 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:35,200 Yes, Your Honor. 359 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:36,600 and I listened to your witness. 360 00:13:36,667 --> 00:13:39,700 - Yes. - And you and the witness that you brought 361 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,033 told two divergent stories. 362 00:13:42,133 --> 00:13:45,100 Two totally different stories. 363 00:13:45,166 --> 00:13:46,533 She was your witness. 364 00:13:58,834 --> 00:14:01,000 {\an8}[narrator] Audrey Stevens is accusing her neighbor, 365 00:14:01,066 --> 00:14:02,533 {\an8}Heather Stephens, 366 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,033 {\an8}of losing control of her pit bull. 367 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:08,767 Heather claims Audrey's dog ran onto her property. 368 00:14:08,867 --> 00:14:13,066 So, Ms. Stephens lied when she said she was on the porch. 369 00:14:13,166 --> 00:14:15,166 That's what she says in her answer. 370 00:14:15,233 --> 00:14:16,500 "I was on the porch when this happened." 371 00:14:16,567 --> 00:14:19,000 - When, when I-- - [Judy] Do you understand? 372 00:14:19,066 --> 00:14:20,734 - Yes. - [Judy] Sit. 373 00:14:22,533 --> 00:14:24,233 Can I see your vet bills, please? 374 00:14:25,867 --> 00:14:28,500 Your Honor, I have a video of my dog. 375 00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:31,734 Can we present the video that I have brought? 376 00:14:31,834 --> 00:14:35,233 - You mean, for that day? - Yes, ma'am-- Oh, not for that day. 377 00:14:35,734 --> 00:14:39,033 No, not for that day, but just to show you that my dog is not vicious. 378 00:14:39,100 --> 00:14:41,333 That she likes to play with little dogs. 379 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,233 Clearly, not on this day, she didn't like to play with other dogs. 380 00:14:44,333 --> 00:14:48,100 That dog is constantly barking at my dog in the backyard, and that's the only-- 381 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,800 my dog loves dogs. 382 00:14:49,867 --> 00:14:52,033 - I have her obedience record-- - [Judy] Ms. Stephens, 383 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:53,500 - Ms. Stephens? - Yes? 384 00:14:53,567 --> 00:14:55,233 [Judy] I want you to understand something. 385 00:14:55,333 --> 00:14:58,400 - Yes, ma'am. - Whether the Schnauzer is a barker, 386 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:02,266 or not a barker, I told you I didn't believe you 387 00:15:02,333 --> 00:15:05,934 when you told me that her dog was off leash, 388 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,333 I didn't believe that. 389 00:15:07,433 --> 00:15:10,233 Either you or your witness lied. I don't know which one. 390 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:13,500 So, I'm gonna have to assume it was your witness. 391 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,400 Do you want me to assume it was your witness or you? 392 00:15:16,467 --> 00:15:17,333 One of you lied. 393 00:15:17,433 --> 00:15:19,266 She says you were at a totally different place, 394 00:15:19,333 --> 00:15:21,900 she was coming out from the backyard, that's where she was. 395 00:15:21,967 --> 00:15:23,500 She had gone to get the dolly. 396 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,967 You said you were maneuvering the refrigerator up on the porch. 397 00:15:27,033 --> 00:15:27,900 Yes, ma'am. 398 00:15:27,967 --> 00:15:30,300 [Judy] Heh. Well, who is telling me the truth? 399 00:15:31,133 --> 00:15:33,000 - You want to tell me? - It was a very hectic day-- 400 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,567 - [Judy] It was a very hectic day. - Yes. 401 00:15:34,633 --> 00:15:36,367 {\an8}[Judy] And I have photographs of your dogs, 402 00:15:36,433 --> 00:15:37,900 {\an8}despite the fact that you tell me 403 00:15:37,967 --> 00:15:40,266 {\an8}that your dog is never off leash. 404 00:15:40,333 --> 00:15:42,266 Always on leash, I have three photographs, 405 00:15:42,333 --> 00:15:44,300 taken three different times, of your dog, 406 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,834 being off leash. 407 00:15:45,934 --> 00:15:49,133 Now, there's no question that your dog caused the injuries 408 00:15:49,233 --> 00:15:50,467 to the dog. 409 00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:53,133 This has been going on for over a year in court. 410 00:15:53,233 --> 00:15:54,867 They dismissed it in criminal court. 411 00:15:54,934 --> 00:15:57,433 And there's a reason why they dismissed it. 412 00:15:57,500 --> 00:15:58,467 - I... - [Judy] Just a second. 413 00:15:58,567 --> 00:15:59,734 - [Heather] Yes, ma'am? - You're gonna try to tell me 414 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,633 why they dismissed the case in criminal court? 415 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:02,700 You have a document? 416 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,567 I mean, I understand that they filed a criminal case 417 00:16:04,667 --> 00:16:07,033 - against you. - [Heather] There was a criminal case 418 00:16:07,133 --> 00:16:08,934 - that was dismissed, Your Honor. - [Judy] That's okay. 419 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,700 That has nothing to do with this civil proceeding. 420 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,700 You know, somebody may not want to put you in jail 421 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,333 because you let your pit bull roam around without a leash. 422 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,300 Somebody may not want to put you in jail, 423 00:16:17,367 --> 00:16:20,467 but you are clearly responsible for this dog's injuries. 424 00:16:20,533 --> 00:16:22,133 You are. If you have a pit bull, 425 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,567 and pit bulls can be dangerous dogs, 426 00:16:23,667 --> 00:16:26,800 they can turn on a dime and cause serious injury. 427 00:16:26,867 --> 00:16:28,800 Pit bull lovers: I don't want to hear from you. 428 00:16:28,867 --> 00:16:31,333 I've been going through it for 25 years. 429 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,333 Some of them are nice, some of them are not nice. 430 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,800 But when they're not nice, and they turn, 431 00:16:37,867 --> 00:16:42,333 they have configurations that can cause a great deal of injury. 432 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,633 One killed a woman who was babysitting for it. 433 00:16:46,700 --> 00:16:48,033 {\an8}- I understand, Your Honor. - [Judy] You-- Do-- 434 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:49,834 {\an8}[Judy] So you do understand? You do-- 435 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:51,700 {\an8}I believe-- may I say something? 436 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,800 I believe a dog is how it was raised. 437 00:16:55,867 --> 00:16:58,033 Okay? I've raised that dog from a baby. 438 00:16:58,133 --> 00:17:00,533 She's not-- She's never been mean like that. 439 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,800 That dog, that lives next door, 440 00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:04,767 which is Ms. Stevens' dog, 441 00:17:04,867 --> 00:17:07,533 yaps at my dog every single day she goes outside. 442 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,300 Yaps, yaps, yaps, yaps at her. 443 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,033 [Judy] So what you're telling me is your dog-- 444 00:17:11,100 --> 00:17:13,033 [chuckling] S-so... if what you're telling me 445 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:15,600 is that your dog had the right to be aggravated 446 00:17:15,700 --> 00:17:18,133 because the dog yaps at her all the time, 447 00:17:18,233 --> 00:17:21,033 that's not a reason to let any dog, 448 00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:24,967 but especially a dog that has potential to cause injury 449 00:17:25,066 --> 00:17:30,133 out without a leash, and you do that regularly. 450 00:17:30,233 --> 00:17:32,400 And you can't do that. 451 00:17:33,367 --> 00:17:36,066 Your Honor, can I also add that I did have a brief interaction 452 00:17:36,133 --> 00:17:38,900 with Ms. Stephens on the day that it occurred? 453 00:17:38,967 --> 00:17:42,800 And it seemed like she did come out of the street with the dog. 454 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:44,934 I don't believe she was in the driveway. 455 00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:47,033 She offered help for me. 456 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,533 - [Judy] She did? - Yes, before I went home. 457 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,233 - [Judy] Where was she? - Not to interrupt, but I-- 458 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:53,934 We also have video of her acknowledging fault 459 00:17:54,033 --> 00:17:57,200 with the--the officer's body cam video. 460 00:17:57,266 --> 00:17:58,200 What is that? 461 00:17:58,266 --> 00:18:01,200 Um, they have a body cam on when he was talking to her, 462 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:04,667 when she said she's really sorry, and she's going to pay the vet bill. 463 00:18:04,767 --> 00:18:06,333 [Judy] Oh. May I see that, please? 464 00:18:08,934 --> 00:18:10,133 I was getting ready to take her for a walk. 465 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,667 We were moving in a fridge. 466 00:18:11,734 --> 00:18:12,700 Oh, okay. 467 00:18:12,767 --> 00:18:16,133 And she jumped out of the car when she seen that little dog, 468 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,300 'cause I was getting ready to get in the car and... gotcha... 469 00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:20,867 right on the corner here... 470 00:18:20,934 --> 00:18:23,700 Okay... so were they just across the street, then? 471 00:18:23,767 --> 00:18:24,700 No, they were right here. 472 00:18:24,767 --> 00:18:26,700 They were just here right on the sidewalk. Okay. 473 00:18:26,767 --> 00:18:28,767 I'm, well, if I'm going to pay the bill, I know... 474 00:18:28,834 --> 00:18:30,300 and whatever I got to do. 475 00:18:30,367 --> 00:18:32,633 Yeah, so she's down at the clinic now... 476 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:34,433 It was a bite on her, on the shoulder, I think... 477 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:35,500 on the shoulder? 478 00:18:35,567 --> 00:18:36,700 - Yeah. - Okay. 479 00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:38,533 And he, she was just protecting me... 480 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,600 sure. 481 00:18:39,667 --> 00:18:41,800 That's all. And I'll pay the bill. 482 00:18:41,867 --> 00:18:43,533 - Then you're responsible for it so... - And I want to apologize. 483 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,200 - Sure. - I feel bad. 484 00:18:46,367 --> 00:18:47,433 [Heather] - I-- - I do feel bad about it. 485 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:49,934 I do love d-- I'm a dog lover. 486 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,266 And I do feel bad. 487 00:18:51,333 --> 00:18:53,700 And I believe she just said, the defendant just said 488 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,834 that she was in the street when that happened. 489 00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:58,467 It was in my driveway that it happened, Your Honor. 490 00:18:58,533 --> 00:19:01,333 I'm just saying... we want to be honest in court. 491 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,500 [Judy] Was the dog... 492 00:19:02,567 --> 00:19:04,900 was your dog on a chain? 493 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,600 My dog was on a chain, Your Honor. 494 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:10,367 Another thing, I never got my side of the story added to that at all, 495 00:19:10,433 --> 00:19:11,834 it was all one-sided. 496 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:13,667 The whole police report was one-sided, Your Honor. 497 00:19:13,734 --> 00:19:15,667 - I didn't look at a police report, madam. - [Emilee] I have one right here-- 498 00:19:15,734 --> 00:19:17,200 Shh, just a second. I didn't look at a police report, 499 00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:20,000 I listened to your-- I listened to you... 500 00:19:20,066 --> 00:19:21,000 Yes, Your Honor. 501 00:19:21,066 --> 00:19:22,200 [Judy] And I listened to your witness. 502 00:19:22,266 --> 00:19:23,567 - Yes. - [Judy] And you 503 00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:27,333 and the witness that you brought told two divergent stories, 504 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,767 two totally different stories. 505 00:19:30,867 --> 00:19:32,166 She was your witness. 506 00:19:32,233 --> 00:19:34,233 - Yes. - [Judy] Easily confused, 507 00:19:34,333 --> 00:19:37,500 but she was your witness, and you should have prepared her better, 508 00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:40,367 consistent with what your answer was. Do you understand? 509 00:19:40,433 --> 00:19:43,667 - Yes, Your Honor, I wasn't-- - [Judy] Very, very good. Okay. 510 00:19:43,734 --> 00:19:45,333 Pain and suffering, unfortunately, 511 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,133 is not yours. 512 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,166 If you had had injury to yourself, 513 00:19:50,233 --> 00:19:51,667 and I think that the law is a little crazy there, 514 00:19:51,734 --> 00:19:54,100 but we can't gauge pain and suffering for an animal. 515 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,233 Anyway, your vet bills were $435. 516 00:19:56,333 --> 00:19:59,567 Your Honor, we just added that just because, you know-- 517 00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:01,166 - [Judy] I understand. - Blatant disregard, 518 00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:02,900 and sh-- and the dog's still out all the time. 519 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,100 [Judy] Oh, no, excuse me. 520 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,834 The total with tax was $441. Judgement for the plaintiff. 521 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:09,367 - Thank you very much. - Thank you. 522 00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:11,066 [bailiff] This court is adjourned. 523 00:20:13,767 --> 00:20:16,433 {\an8}It's been a struggle, just because of how long it's been going on. 524 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:17,367 It was a crazy day. 525 00:20:17,433 --> 00:20:20,266 The dog almost got to our dog's leg bone, 526 00:20:20,367 --> 00:20:22,367 {\an8}- and broke it. - 'Cause the dog is always yapping 527 00:20:22,433 --> 00:20:24,166 {\an8}- at my dog. - It was pretty scary. 528 00:20:24,233 --> 00:20:25,934 {\an8}So, it surprised me that that happened. 529 00:20:26,033 --> 00:20:27,200 {\an8}He was bleeding and everything. 530 00:20:27,266 --> 00:20:28,567 {\an8}She's not vicious whatsoever. 531 00:20:28,667 --> 00:20:30,000 {\an8}We ran him up to the hospital. 532 00:20:30,066 --> 00:20:31,667 {\an8}The Animal Control never came to my house. 533 00:20:31,734 --> 00:20:33,900 {\an8}I had a feeling that Judy would see right through her, so... 534 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,500 {\an8}I love dogs, and I felt sorry for the little dog. 535 00:20:36,567 --> 00:20:40,100 {\an8}I'm happy about the settlement, and how we got our money. 536 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:43,667 I'm not even get on my soapbox 537 00:20:43,734 --> 00:20:46,000 with regard to dogs that are potentially dangerous. 538 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:50,900 There's no question that this lady has a dog that she's had from a puppy, 539 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,934 and she-- the dog has never caused her any difficulty. 540 00:20:54,033 --> 00:20:57,000 But there's also no question that she lets that dog out without a leash. 541 00:20:57,066 --> 00:20:58,900 I mean, they had proof of different occasions 542 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,433 of the dog out and about. 543 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,567 - After... this happened. - [Sarah] After this incident. 544 00:21:02,633 --> 00:21:03,567 After this incident. 545 00:21:03,633 --> 00:21:04,967 So, you can-- I think that's also a great lesson, 546 00:21:05,066 --> 00:21:07,266 that you can feel bad and be an animal lover, 547 00:21:07,333 --> 00:21:08,934 and want to take care of the bill, 548 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,500 but if you don't take any subsequent remedial measures 549 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,567 to fix your bad behavior that caused this great deal of injury, 550 00:21:15,633 --> 00:21:17,333 then I don't really believe you, that you feel sorry, 551 00:21:17,433 --> 00:21:18,433 or that you're a dog lover. 552 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:20,900 Well, that's an-- [chuckling] that's an interesting perspective. 553 00:21:20,967 --> 00:21:22,400 Yeah. I mean, you knew what you had to do 554 00:21:22,467 --> 00:21:25,266 to ensure the safety of the dogs and other people in your neighborhood, 555 00:21:25,333 --> 00:21:26,734 and you chose not to do that, so... 556 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,100 - After it had already... - [Sarah] Yeah. 557 00:21:28,166 --> 00:21:29,300 - had an incident. - Exactly. 558 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,633 - [Judy] At least one. - Yeah. 559 00:21:32,467 --> 00:21:33,600 [narrator] Want justice? 560 00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:36,133 {\an8}Go to JudyJustice.tv. 561 00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:43,133 [♪ closing theme plays]