1 00:00:01,633 --> 00:00:03,433 Why you hitting me in the face? 2 00:00:03,633 --> 00:00:05,133 Because I want my DOG! 3 00:00:06,033 --> 00:00:07,166 {\an8}Explain that to me. 4 00:00:08,066 --> 00:00:11,667 When I barge in I'm just like, "Give me my dog so I can leave." 5 00:00:11,667 --> 00:00:13,533 I never once put my hands on him. 6 00:00:13,533 --> 00:00:17,433 That's what happens when foolish young people decide to own a dog together. 7 00:00:17,433 --> 00:00:19,867 [narrator] This is Judy Justice. 8 00:00:19,867 --> 00:00:22,133 [theme music playing] 9 00:00:36,266 --> 00:00:37,500 {\an8}[announcer] Jasmine Jones 10 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:40,834 {\an8}is suing her ex-boyfriend, Jushua Caldwell, 11 00:00:40,834 --> 00:00:44,000 for the cost of a French Bulldog. 12 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:46,867 [Bailiff] Court coming to order. All rise. 13 00:00:47,567 --> 00:00:48,834 Have a seat, please. 14 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:52,200 - Hello Judge. - [whispers] How are you? 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,533 Case 2120. Jones vs. Caldwell. 16 00:00:54,533 --> 00:00:55,667 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:02,433 [Judy] Miss Jones, you and the defendant were in a romantic relationship... 18 00:01:02,433 --> 00:01:04,967 - Yes. - ...that started about a year ago. 19 00:01:04,967 --> 00:01:06,333 - [Jasmine] Yes. - More than a year ago. 20 00:01:06,333 --> 00:01:10,834 And then you decided to do one of the most foolish things that people do 21 00:01:10,834 --> 00:01:13,967 when they, sort of... fall in love, 22 00:01:14,433 --> 00:01:18,567 sometimes temporarily. You decided to buy a dog, together. 23 00:01:18,567 --> 00:01:21,467 According to you the relationship went south 24 00:01:21,467 --> 00:01:24,467 and now we have this adorable dog that you want back. 25 00:01:24,467 --> 00:01:27,166 You say the dog is really yours, you were the one 26 00:01:27,166 --> 00:01:30,333 who was its primary caretaker, you paid for a vet bill. 27 00:01:30,333 --> 00:01:32,033 Mr. Caldwell said that's not the case, 28 00:01:32,033 --> 00:01:35,166 the dog was always supposed to be his, he purchased it, and... 29 00:01:35,166 --> 00:01:39,266 it's your argument that if Mr. Caldwell is allowed to keep the dog, 30 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:42,300 that you be reimbursed for the vet bills that you paid. 31 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:43,867 - Yes, ma'am. - Okay. 32 00:01:43,867 --> 00:01:45,734 Did you and Mr. Caldwell live together? 33 00:01:45,734 --> 00:01:47,200 - Yes. - [Judy] From when to when? 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,100 From February 1st of this year to September 3rd. 35 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:54,533 And in what month did you decide to get... the dog's name is Scrappy? 36 00:01:54,533 --> 00:01:55,633 - [Jasmine] Yes. - Scrappy? 37 00:01:55,633 --> 00:01:58,800 We got Scrap... we got Scrappy, um, January 18th. 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,967 - So before you moved in together? - Yes. 39 00:02:00,967 --> 00:02:02,433 {\an8}[Judy] Where were you living? 40 00:02:02,433 --> 00:02:06,033 {\an8}I was going back and forth from my mom's house to Jushua's. 41 00:02:06,033 --> 00:02:07,667 I already had a key in January. 42 00:02:07,667 --> 00:02:09,266 - I was staying there, but... - Okay, but you were living 43 00:02:09,266 --> 00:02:10,633 - with your mother. - Yes. 44 00:02:10,633 --> 00:02:12,200 - In January. - Yes. 45 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,900 And who was the breeder of this dog? 46 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,200 Did you buy the dog from the breeder or from... 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,600 From the breeder, Andrew. 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,166 Now, Andrew is sitting over there on the defendant's side, 49 00:02:21,166 --> 00:02:24,500 so I assume that Andrew is a friend of your boyfriend's. 50 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:25,433 Yes. 51 00:02:25,433 --> 00:02:26,567 Stand up, Andrew. 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,200 - I have a couple of questions for you. - Okay. 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,166 - That's Scrappy. - [Scrappy snorts] 54 00:02:32,166 --> 00:02:33,100 - Yes. - [audience laughs] 55 00:02:33,100 --> 00:02:34,934 [Judy] Scrappy is about eight months old? 56 00:02:34,934 --> 00:02:36,834 He just hit a year about two, three weeks ago. 57 00:02:36,834 --> 00:02:38,433 Oh, so still a puppy. 58 00:02:38,433 --> 00:02:40,033 - Yes. - Looks very healthy. 59 00:02:40,033 --> 00:02:45,000 When Scrappy was purchased, was the amount paid for him 60 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,300 the same as was paid for the other dogs in Scrappy's litter? 61 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:51,967 - No. - How many puppies were in the litter? 62 00:02:51,967 --> 00:02:55,000 - Five. - Did you charge Mr. Caldwell... 63 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,233 {\an8}- or Miss Jones for Scrappy? - Mr. Caldwell. 64 00:02:58,233 --> 00:02:59,867 How much did you charge him? 65 00:02:59,867 --> 00:03:01,166 $3,000, Your Honor. 66 00:03:01,166 --> 00:03:03,100 - Who paid you? - Jushua. 67 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,500 Mr. Caldwell. Did he pay by check or cash? 68 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:06,900 Cash and Zelle payments. 69 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:10,800 [Judy] Did you ever see Miss Jones in the purchasing process? 70 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,734 Yes, I seen her. 71 00:03:11,734 --> 00:03:13,433 - Tell me about it. - At the time, 72 00:03:13,433 --> 00:03:17,400 when they came to pick up the dog, she was his girlfriend, 73 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,200 but there was no connection with me and the dog. 74 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,700 Was that the first time you had met her? 75 00:03:22,266 --> 00:03:25,100 I've seen her around, 'cause we would work at the gym together, 76 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,767 we're both personal trainers, so, I would see her around the gym sometimes. 77 00:03:28,767 --> 00:03:31,300 Had you discussed with 78 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:33,667 - your friend, Jushua... - Yes. 79 00:03:33,667 --> 00:03:36,767 ...while you were working with him, you're personal training at the gym, 80 00:03:36,767 --> 00:03:39,100 had you discussed with him getting a dog? 81 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:40,066 Yes. 82 00:03:40,066 --> 00:03:42,300 - When? - I can't recall the exact date, 83 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:45,700 but I know that he had seen that I'd bought my dog 84 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:47,967 and that I was getting into the business, 85 00:03:47,967 --> 00:03:53,233 so, he contacted me early in say, 2020, stating that, 86 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:56,767 "Hey, I wanna eventually, when you have a litter, get one of your dogs from you." 87 00:03:56,867 --> 00:03:58,934 Do you remember what month that was in? 88 00:03:58,934 --> 00:04:03,033 I'd say... well, Scrap was born October 2021, so... 89 00:04:03,033 --> 00:04:05,800 around then, maybe a couple months before when I let him know 90 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,133 that the female was pregnant, so maybe around July, August. 91 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:11,467 - [Judy] Okay. Of 2021. - Yes, Your Honor. 92 00:04:11,467 --> 00:04:14,967 Okay, so, that was well before the two of you lived together. 93 00:04:14,967 --> 00:04:17,934 - Yes. - Did you ever hear from Miss Jones? 94 00:04:17,934 --> 00:04:19,900 Did she ever call you before... 95 00:04:19,900 --> 00:04:22,567 you saw her when they both came to pick up Scrappy? 96 00:04:22,567 --> 00:04:23,900 - No, Your Honor. - Okay. 97 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:24,967 You can sit down now. 98 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:29,300 {\an8}[Judy] Cute! Miss Jones, who paid for Scrappy? 99 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:30,600 {\an8}Me and Jushua. 100 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Show me. 101 00:04:33,467 --> 00:04:37,700 I have here Zelle and Venmo payments to Jushua. 102 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:40,400 The first one is in February and then he didn't start asking me 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,600 - for large amounts... - [Judy] Hold on one second. Hold on. 104 00:04:44,133 --> 00:04:46,900 These don't look like anything like payments for the dog. 105 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:51,633 Look at those payments. $100, $500, $350 in June. 106 00:04:51,633 --> 00:04:53,233 What were those for? 107 00:04:53,233 --> 00:04:57,033 They were all payments toward Scrappy. He started asking me for 200... 108 00:04:57,033 --> 00:05:00,567 - $350 at that time. - You mean after you already had the dog? 109 00:05:00,567 --> 00:05:01,900 - Yes... - Of course, you've got the dog. 110 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:03,700 Yeah, but he didn't pay for him straight up. 111 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:07,133 And his friend told us that we could pay for him at-will. 112 00:05:07,133 --> 00:05:09,500 He didn't give him money the first day that we picked him up. 113 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:10,967 [Judy] Okay, I'll go back to you. 114 00:05:10,967 --> 00:05:15,867 How much money did Mr. Caldwell pay on the day he picked up the dog? 115 00:05:15,867 --> 00:05:16,800 [Frederick] Zero dollars. 116 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,567 When was the first time he made a payment? Now you can stand up again. 117 00:05:20,567 --> 00:05:22,800 [Scrappy growling] 118 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,934 {\an8}He made a payment shortly after, within the first month... of about $300. 119 00:05:26,934 --> 00:05:30,300 So, in January, he made first payment... 120 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:33,166 - ...of $300. - [Judy] And in January 121 00:05:33,166 --> 00:05:36,300 there is no Zelle payment from you. At all. 122 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:38,266 When was the next payment? Do you recall? 123 00:05:38,266 --> 00:05:40,200 I believe in March he paid another $200... 124 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,033 Well, do you have records of what you paid, sir? 125 00:05:42,033 --> 00:05:43,533 - Yes. - [Judy] I'd like to see them. 126 00:05:43,533 --> 00:05:47,900 I just want to see what you paid and when you paid it. 127 00:05:48,533 --> 00:05:52,100 By the way, while he's looking for that, when you lived with Mr. Caldwell 128 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:53,934 did you both contribute to the rent? 129 00:05:53,934 --> 00:05:57,166 My contribution to the rent was paying for the groceries, 130 00:05:57,166 --> 00:05:58,633 so, I have all my receipts. 131 00:05:58,633 --> 00:06:00,800 So, the answer is, you did not pay rent. 132 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,100 That was our deal. 133 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:04,834 - Me doing the groceries... - But the answer is, you did not pay rent. 134 00:06:04,834 --> 00:06:05,767 [Jasmine] No, ma'am. 135 00:06:05,767 --> 00:06:07,633 {\an8}Did you pay any utilities? 136 00:06:07,633 --> 00:06:11,300 {\an8}Only when he asked me for extra money to pay his phone bill 137 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:14,233 or to pay for the wifi, sometimes. 138 00:06:14,233 --> 00:06:17,834 [Judy] And when you paid for these extra things, 139 00:06:17,834 --> 00:06:21,667 the wifi or his phone bill, did you pay by cash or did you pay by... 140 00:06:21,667 --> 00:06:23,900 The extra charges in there that I didn't highlight. 141 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:27,600 The ones that are $20, $30, those are for gas. 142 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Um, the $70 one is for his card... 143 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,033 Well, I just want to know how you know the payment in July... 144 00:06:33,033 --> 00:06:35,700 for $200, what it was for? 145 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:38,767 I was only giving him money at that time for Scrappy. 146 00:06:38,767 --> 00:06:41,467 He started asking me for large amounts of money for him, 147 00:06:41,467 --> 00:06:43,000 so, that's when I gave him those. 148 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,633 He didn't ask me for anything towards bills 149 00:06:45,633 --> 00:06:47,767 - for that apartment... - Is Scrappy totally paid for? 150 00:06:47,767 --> 00:06:49,266 - [Frederick] No. - How much is owed? 151 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,600 $2,300. 152 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,200 So, the only amount that was paid so far was $700. 153 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,767 Yes, Your Honor. 154 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,767 [Scrappy grunts] 155 00:06:57,767 --> 00:07:01,333 {\an8}This is what happens, cos relationships come and go, you know, 156 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:04,100 {\an8}Fifty percent of the marriages in this country fail, 157 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:08,900 {\an8}so, why would you think a relationship is gonna last as long as a French Bulldog? 158 00:07:13,734 --> 00:07:16,433 [theme music playing] 159 00:07:20,333 --> 00:07:21,633 {\an8}[announcer] Jasmine Jones 160 00:07:21,633 --> 00:07:24,667 {\an8}claims her ex-boyfriend, Jushua Caldwell, 161 00:07:24,667 --> 00:07:27,200 owes for the cost of a French Bulldog. 162 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,166 Jushua is countersuing for vandalism and an assault. 163 00:07:31,166 --> 00:07:33,367 Okay, and this is an agreement 164 00:07:33,367 --> 00:07:37,667 {\an8}that, "I, Jushua Caldwell, have agreed to buy Cashmere..." 165 00:07:37,967 --> 00:07:39,266 {\an8}That was his name originally. 166 00:07:39,266 --> 00:07:41,400 {\an8}"...from Frederick Wright. Once the dog's paid in full, 167 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,600 I will receive full ownership rights. 168 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,533 Frederick Wright will remain the rightful owner of Cashmere 169 00:07:46,533 --> 00:07:49,967 until I complete $3,000 in payments." 170 00:07:49,967 --> 00:07:51,100 - Right? - [Jushua] Correct. 171 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:54,500 [Judy] And both of you signed this, and this was in January of 2022. 172 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:56,166 That's a reasonable... 173 00:07:56,166 --> 00:07:58,533 {\an8}- What are you laughing at? - I'm not laughing, I'm just like... 174 00:07:58,533 --> 00:08:02,000 {\an8}when did he even sign that? Because I was with him the day that we picked him up, 175 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,066 - and he never showed me any contract. - Well, but this is reasonable. 176 00:08:05,066 --> 00:08:07,734 Because he's not transferring any rights to him. 177 00:08:07,734 --> 00:08:10,533 He's going to remain the owner. He's the owner of the dog. 178 00:08:10,533 --> 00:08:13,934 Until the full amount is paid for the dog of $3,000. 179 00:08:13,934 --> 00:08:17,800 Right now, he said that the only thing was paid was $700. 180 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,500 Go ahead, now I'll hear you. Now I got it. Now you can sit down. 181 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:24,867 When I was present for us picking up Scrappy and purchasing him, 182 00:08:24,867 --> 00:08:28,033 it was word of mouth contract. There was no paper signing. 183 00:08:28,033 --> 00:08:30,700 At all. He didn't even show me a paper. 184 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:32,667 - And? - [Jasmine] And he showed me him, 185 00:08:32,667 --> 00:08:34,767 {\an8}he asked me if I liked him. I said, "Yes," 186 00:08:34,767 --> 00:08:37,166 {\an8}and he said he would go half on him with me. 187 00:08:37,166 --> 00:08:38,233 [Judy] Okay. 188 00:08:38,233 --> 00:08:40,800 And I said, "Okay," and it was that same day. 189 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,000 I get off of work. He picks me up. We go see Scrappy, 190 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,967 didn't know we were going to get him that day. 191 00:08:45,967 --> 00:08:48,567 We ended up getting him that day. He tells me, 192 00:08:48,567 --> 00:08:51,967 "Okay, it's just gonna be $3,500." They walk to the back of the room 193 00:08:51,967 --> 00:08:54,400 and start talking and making an agreement. 194 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,867 - Come back out... - [Judy] Okay, so, just a second. 195 00:08:55,867 --> 00:08:58,100 So, they went in the back of the room. 196 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:00,500 You were not there. That's what you just told me. 197 00:09:00,500 --> 00:09:02,433 They went in the back to make an agreement. 198 00:09:02,433 --> 00:09:03,900 And then they came out. 199 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:05,000 Is... that's what... 200 00:09:06,133 --> 00:09:08,533 "He tells me it's going to be $3,500. 201 00:09:08,533 --> 00:09:11,000 They walk to the back of the room, make an agreement." 202 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,333 [Judy] Right. Go ahead. 203 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:14,567 And then he comes back and we take Scrappy home. 204 00:09:14,567 --> 00:09:16,767 The next day he texts me 205 00:09:16,767 --> 00:09:20,133 early in the morning and tells me that Scrappy might have gotten a bee sting 206 00:09:20,133 --> 00:09:23,900 or... something because he was limping and he doesn't know what happened. 207 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:28,667 I picked him up from his job that afternoon, after I got off of work. 208 00:09:28,667 --> 00:09:30,734 Okay, so you picked up the dog from his work. 209 00:09:30,734 --> 00:09:34,266 Yes, picked him up and I went straight to my mom's house to get clothes, 210 00:09:34,266 --> 00:09:35,967 'cause I was going back to his house. 211 00:09:35,967 --> 00:09:40,166 And I was examining Scrappy. No swollen paw, no bee sting. 212 00:09:40,166 --> 00:09:43,367 Then he said that he probably clipped his nail on the tile 213 00:09:43,367 --> 00:09:44,834 and I'm just, like, looking at his paw 214 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:46,967 and I'm like, there's nothing wrong with it. But he's limping. 215 00:09:46,967 --> 00:09:50,100 Those were his stories. Still don't know what happened. 216 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:53,367 Scrappy wasn't showing any signs of, like, pain, he was just limping. 217 00:09:53,367 --> 00:09:55,600 So, I was like, we need to... 218 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,867 we need to take him to the vet, like, 219 00:09:56,867 --> 00:09:58,867 - he needs to get checked out. - So, you took him to the vet. 220 00:09:58,867 --> 00:09:59,934 - Okay, and? - [Jasmine] Yes. 221 00:09:59,934 --> 00:10:02,300 The vet ended up telling us that 222 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:03,500 - he had a fractured... - You can't... 223 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:07,133 You can't tell me what the vet told you. I'll look at the records from the vet. 224 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:08,066 [Jasmine] Oh! Okay. Sorry. 225 00:10:08,066 --> 00:10:10,800 I have the vet bills and the reports right here. 226 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,433 Did you pay any part of these vet bills, sir? 227 00:10:20,433 --> 00:10:22,367 - Yes. - Which parts? 228 00:10:22,367 --> 00:10:25,100 I don't have any record of it, because I didn't see it coming. 229 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:27,433 I honestly didn't know what happened to his elbow. 230 00:10:27,433 --> 00:10:31,033 Um, Andrew was there as well. We were both kind of like, we don't know. 231 00:10:31,033 --> 00:10:35,467 So, I found out after going to the vet that Frenchies have a... a... 232 00:10:35,467 --> 00:10:38,600 like, a ligament in their elbow and this happens often. 233 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,967 No one is suggesting that anyone abused the dog. 234 00:10:40,967 --> 00:10:42,767 - [Jushua] Okay. Oh, I just... - That's not the suggestion. 235 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:44,033 My question was a simple one. 236 00:10:44,033 --> 00:10:45,867 {\an8}Did you pay any of these vet bills? 237 00:10:45,867 --> 00:10:47,700 {\an8}- Yes. Yes. - They're about $1,600. 238 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:49,834 - I just don't have any record of it. - [Judy] How much did you pay? 239 00:10:49,834 --> 00:10:51,033 - [Judy] What? - He's lying. 240 00:10:51,033 --> 00:10:52,533 I didn't ask you to interrupt. 241 00:10:52,533 --> 00:10:55,667 You have to understand, Miss Jones, you can't have this dog. 242 00:10:55,667 --> 00:10:58,333 First of all, this dog doesn't belong to either one of you. 243 00:10:58,333 --> 00:11:00,400 This dog belongs to him. 244 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,000 {\an8}Until the dog is paid for. 245 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,567 {\an8}So far, all he's gotten for the dog is $700. 246 00:11:05,567 --> 00:11:08,433 Five hundred dollars of that, he paid for. 247 00:11:08,433 --> 00:11:12,734 But right now, I can't award ownership of the dog if there's a contract. 248 00:11:12,734 --> 00:11:16,700 That until this dog is paid for, this dog belongs to Mr. Wright. 249 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:18,133 - First name? - Frederick. 250 00:11:18,133 --> 00:11:19,600 Frederick. You understand? 251 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,734 - Yes, ma'am. - Simple. 252 00:11:20,734 --> 00:11:23,500 So, you have a friend who has Frenchies? 253 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:26,867 Then I suggest that you go with your original plan, 254 00:11:26,867 --> 00:11:28,600 - which is to buy a dog yourself. - It's just... 255 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:29,734 - not the same. - Now, 256 00:11:29,734 --> 00:11:32,667 you have no proof that you paid any of these vet bills. 257 00:11:32,667 --> 00:11:35,700 {\an8}I just have the medicine with my name on it. 258 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:37,734 {\an8}Well, the medicine with your name on it doesn't help. 259 00:11:37,734 --> 00:11:40,033 $1,600 in vet bills. 260 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:43,633 And you have physical custody of the dog now. Right? 261 00:11:43,633 --> 00:11:47,166 - Right. - And your agreement with Mr. Wright 262 00:11:47,166 --> 00:11:50,834 is that you don't get ownership of that dog 263 00:11:50,834 --> 00:11:52,500 - until the dog is paid for. - Yeah. 264 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:56,100 I mean, I can't enforce your contract with regard to Miss Jones. 265 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:57,367 The dog was not paid for. 266 00:11:57,367 --> 00:11:59,333 I've already offered to pay him 267 00:11:59,333 --> 00:12:02,100 for the remainder of whatever Jush hadn't paid him. 268 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:05,367 The contract is with Mr. Caldwell, not you. 269 00:12:05,367 --> 00:12:09,467 So, that's what happens when foolish young people decide to own a dog together. 270 00:12:09,467 --> 00:12:12,667 And they're not married, they don't even live together. 271 00:12:12,667 --> 00:12:16,200 This is what happens, 'cause relationships come and go, you know, 272 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,934 fifty percent of the marriages in this country fail, 273 00:12:18,934 --> 00:12:23,967 so why would you think a relationship is going to last as long as a French Bulldog? 274 00:12:23,967 --> 00:12:27,333 It's sort of ridiculous and I've advised against it for the last 25 years 275 00:12:27,333 --> 00:12:31,333 nobody wants to head the... so, I'm faced with the situation where... 276 00:12:31,333 --> 00:12:32,967 when did the two of you break up? 277 00:12:32,967 --> 00:12:35,600 I left on September 3rd. 278 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,500 And now we're a couple of months... what? 279 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:39,934 Uh, she didn't leave. She had to be... 280 00:12:39,934 --> 00:12:42,533 well, this... is going to go into the assault charge. 281 00:12:42,533 --> 00:12:43,734 - [Judy] I don't... - But... 282 00:12:43,734 --> 00:12:44,934 - [Jushua] she had to be escorted out... - [Jasmine] I did leave. 283 00:12:44,934 --> 00:12:46,734 Whatever. If... I don't care. You wanna... 284 00:12:46,734 --> 00:12:48,200 - [Jasmine] ...clothes... - You... shh 285 00:12:48,567 --> 00:12:50,767 I'll get to the counterclaim in a second. 286 00:12:50,767 --> 00:12:53,967 {\an8}I will give it the same attention as I've given her claim for the dog. 287 00:12:53,967 --> 00:12:56,333 {\an8}She's not getting the dog back. You have to, however, 288 00:12:56,333 --> 00:12:59,600 {\an8}pay her the $1,600 that you paid for the vet. Do you understand? 289 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,600 - Yes. - So, that part 290 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,166 of your petition is granted. 291 00:13:02,166 --> 00:13:04,000 Was the bill all paid? 292 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,100 I'm still paying it off currently. 293 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:09,367 We both agreed to apply for care credit together and whoever... 294 00:13:09,367 --> 00:13:11,500 But it's your bill that you have to pay. 295 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:14,033 If you work in accounting, you have a check... 296 00:13:14,033 --> 00:13:15,166 - Yes. - ...you don't want that garnished, 297 00:13:15,166 --> 00:13:16,800 - so, you have to pay it. - I am paying it. 298 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,433 You have to pay it. Okay. 299 00:13:18,433 --> 00:13:22,200 And he's going to reimburse you for that. $1,600, all right. 300 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,934 Now, let's get to this counterclaim and make short shrift of it. 301 00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:28,867 Money owed for assault and vandalizing personal belongings. 302 00:13:28,867 --> 00:13:30,767 Let's start with the assault. 303 00:13:30,767 --> 00:13:33,166 Allegedly the assault took place when the... 304 00:13:33,667 --> 00:13:36,633 Plaintiff came home intoxicated. 305 00:13:36,633 --> 00:13:37,834 I'm a kickboxer. 306 00:13:37,834 --> 00:13:41,033 On September 3rd she came to my fight and... 307 00:13:41,033 --> 00:13:42,467 she dropped me off at home. 308 00:13:42,467 --> 00:13:43,467 [Jasmine] That's a lie. 309 00:13:43,467 --> 00:13:44,967 [Judy] If you say it again, 310 00:13:44,967 --> 00:13:48,233 what I'm going to do if you interrupt, Miss Jones, 311 00:13:48,233 --> 00:13:52,400 again, what I'm going to do is I'm just going to dismiss your claim. 312 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,367 And you'll pay for these vet bills yourself. 313 00:13:54,367 --> 00:13:55,767 - Do you understand? - Yes, ma'am. 314 00:13:55,767 --> 00:13:56,900 [Judy] Okay. Go ahead. 315 00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:00,233 She didn't like the people that was at my fight there, and, uh, 316 00:14:00,233 --> 00:14:03,133 so she had a couple drinks, she get to my house 317 00:14:03,133 --> 00:14:05,600 and she started to fight with me. And... 318 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,333 I tried to remove myself from the fight and then she started getting violent. 319 00:14:09,333 --> 00:14:12,133 So, then I called her family to come pick her up 320 00:14:12,133 --> 00:14:14,333 and they showed up maybe an hour later. 321 00:14:14,333 --> 00:14:17,667 {\an8}In that hour, I tried to remove myself to another room. 322 00:14:17,667 --> 00:14:20,834 {\an8}She went and got scissors and started cutting my shoes up. 323 00:14:20,834 --> 00:14:24,700 Then I had to try to grab my shoes and Scrap and go into the opposite room 324 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:26,734 and she came in there and was trying to fight me. 325 00:14:26,734 --> 00:14:28,166 All the while, all this happening, 326 00:14:28,166 --> 00:14:31,333 I'm recording her on video to make sure that I'm... 327 00:14:31,333 --> 00:14:32,633 - You have that recording? - Yes. 328 00:14:32,633 --> 00:14:33,834 I'd like to see it. 329 00:14:36,233 --> 00:14:38,500 This would be me asking her just to leave. 330 00:14:38,500 --> 00:14:40,100 {\an8}- I can... I can... - This whole thing is out of retaliation. 331 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:41,567 What are you about to do? 332 00:14:41,567 --> 00:14:43,166 Are you hitting me in the face? 333 00:14:43,166 --> 00:14:44,333 Record me? 334 00:14:44,867 --> 00:14:46,200 Because I want my dog? 335 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,467 She won't stop fighting me. 336 00:14:47,467 --> 00:14:48,533 I've asked her to leave. 337 00:14:48,533 --> 00:14:49,934 Explain that to me. 338 00:14:54,367 --> 00:14:55,900 [theme music playing] 339 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:02,834 {\an8}[announcer] Jasmine Jones 340 00:15:02,834 --> 00:15:06,233 {\an8}is accusing her ex-boyfriend, Jushua Caldwell, 341 00:15:06,233 --> 00:15:09,000 of owing vet bills for a French Bulldog. 342 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,667 Jushua is countersuing, 343 00:15:10,667 --> 00:15:12,867 claiming Jasmine assaulted him. 344 00:15:12,867 --> 00:15:14,233 Okay. You have that recording? 345 00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:15,500 - [Jushua] Yes. - I'd like to see it. 346 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:17,834 This would be asking her just to leave. 347 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:19,467 This whole thing is out of retaliation. 348 00:15:20,967 --> 00:15:22,433 Are you hitting me in the face? 349 00:15:22,433 --> 00:15:23,467 Record me? 350 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,533 Because I want my dog? 351 00:15:25,734 --> 00:15:26,800 She won't stop fighting me. 352 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:27,967 I've asked her to leave. 353 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,667 Your stuff is in bags. 354 00:15:29,867 --> 00:15:31,300 You're such a _______ Josh. 355 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:33,066 Okay. There you go again. 356 00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:35,033 There you go again on camera hitting me. 357 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:36,533 On camera hitting me. 358 00:15:37,667 --> 00:15:38,533 It's on camera. 359 00:15:40,567 --> 00:15:41,500 You see her hitting me? 360 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:42,800 There you go. 361 00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:45,100 Explain that to me. 362 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:47,300 I wasn't dropping him off. We were still... 363 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:50,033 I don't care what you're dropping off. Explain that video to me. 364 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:53,900 I was pushing the phone out of my face because he had me on live 365 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:56,500 and was saying my full name. He cut off parts of it. 366 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:58,166 - Saying my full name... - I just want to know what happened here. 367 00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:00,867 This was clearly you were going after him. 368 00:16:00,867 --> 00:16:04,233 I was knocking the phone out of his hand because he was saying my full name, 369 00:16:04,233 --> 00:16:05,400 saying I was crazy. 370 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,800 I had already packed my stuff. I was leaving. 371 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,900 {\an8}We walk in the house, he calls me a dumb 'B' 372 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:12,567 {\an8}and then goes straight to the bathroom. 373 00:16:12,567 --> 00:16:14,033 I'm like, okay, well, I'm just gonna leave, 374 00:16:14,033 --> 00:16:15,300 like, I'm not gonna deal with this. 375 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:18,133 I had Scrappy by my side. I was packing what I could, 376 00:16:18,133 --> 00:16:20,400 taking it downstairs. I walk back up, 377 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,734 he goes, "Oh, you're leaving?" 378 00:16:21,734 --> 00:16:25,266 And he snatches Scrappy and locks him in the bedroom. 379 00:16:25,567 --> 00:16:28,400 And then when he goes to open the door is when I barge in 380 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,767 and I'm just like, "Give me my dog so I can leave." 381 00:16:30,767 --> 00:16:31,767 - And he's... - Well, I wanna know what 382 00:16:31,767 --> 00:16:33,500 the violent stuff was about. 383 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:35,767 - He was recording me, saying my name. - He was recording... 384 00:16:35,767 --> 00:16:38,266 - He was recording you. - And saying I was crazy, 385 00:16:38,266 --> 00:16:42,066 and I wouldn't get out of the house, and I was like, "Stop recording me." 386 00:16:42,066 --> 00:16:43,734 And I was just hitting the phone out of his hand. 387 00:16:43,734 --> 00:16:45,734 I never once put my hands on him. 388 00:16:45,734 --> 00:16:48,367 He's already hit me and choked me in the past, so, 389 00:16:48,367 --> 00:16:52,367 {\an8}I would not go there to provoke him to hurt me again. 390 00:16:52,367 --> 00:16:54,500 Did you ever report to anyone that he hurt you? 391 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:57,200 - I told my mom. - [Judy] Did you ever report? 392 00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:58,367 No, I didn't. 393 00:16:58,367 --> 00:16:59,900 [Judy] Mr. Caldwell. 394 00:16:59,900 --> 00:17:01,367 - Yeah? - Were you injured? 395 00:17:01,367 --> 00:17:03,467 I mean, I'm a fighter. I'm not gonna... 396 00:17:03,467 --> 00:17:05,567 - Were you injured, is my question. - No. 397 00:17:05,567 --> 00:17:06,900 Her family came? 398 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,100 - Yeah. - [Judy] The police were not called. 399 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:11,000 You called her family instead. 400 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,200 Did you pick her up? Stand up, please. 401 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,133 - You're her mother? - Yes I am. 402 00:17:15,133 --> 00:17:18,900 Okay. And this incident happened on what date? When he called you. 403 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:20,367 It was about three o'clock in the morning. 404 00:17:20,367 --> 00:17:21,300 - [Jushua] Right. - On... 405 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:22,967 [Judy] Shh, don't interrupt. 406 00:17:22,967 --> 00:17:24,834 - On what date? - Labor Day. 407 00:17:24,834 --> 00:17:26,633 Did you go to Mr. Caldwell's home? 408 00:17:26,633 --> 00:17:28,567 - Yes I did. - What time did you get there? 409 00:17:28,567 --> 00:17:29,533 Probably almost four. 410 00:17:29,533 --> 00:17:33,266 Had Mr. Caldwell ever called you before with regard to picking up your daughter 411 00:17:33,266 --> 00:17:34,967 - or that she was... no. - No. 412 00:17:34,967 --> 00:17:37,600 - So, this was a first. - Yes. 413 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,900 Now, when you got there, I want you to describe what you saw. 414 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:42,467 She was crying, she was upset, 415 00:17:42,467 --> 00:17:45,133 {\an8}and I told her, "Come on, let's just go." 416 00:17:45,133 --> 00:17:49,000 {\an8}And she said, "No, I want to get my dog. I can't leave my dog here." 417 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 He's been violent in the past, I've seen it. 418 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,633 I told her, "Don't ever leave him with him again." 419 00:17:53,633 --> 00:17:56,333 After a beach incident where he, like, hit him. 420 00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:58,867 I mean, he's a kickboxer, like he said. 421 00:17:58,867 --> 00:18:02,633 He doesn't hit the dog like, a normal person would just tap a dog. 422 00:18:02,633 --> 00:18:05,834 No. This was back in July. He was a puppy. He was a baby. 423 00:18:05,834 --> 00:18:08,200 And I was so furious when I saw that. 424 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,033 He only did it because the dog snapped at him 425 00:18:11,033 --> 00:18:14,800 because he was angrily packing him up into a dog carrier. 426 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,433 Would you do me a favor? Would you describe to me your daughter's condition? 427 00:18:18,433 --> 00:18:20,500 - Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. - Describe to me... 428 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:24,467 You have to understand. Your daughter cannot get the dog. 429 00:18:24,467 --> 00:18:27,266 The dog does not belong to the Defendant. 430 00:18:27,266 --> 00:18:30,166 - Okay. - The dog belongs to Mr. Wright. 431 00:18:30,166 --> 00:18:33,600 What happens to the $1,310 she spent for the dog? 432 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,166 - [Judy] Well, I... just... - She sent that money to him. 433 00:18:35,166 --> 00:18:36,467 I have to tell you something. 434 00:18:36,467 --> 00:18:40,533 I don't see anything in your daughter's evidence 435 00:18:40,533 --> 00:18:45,200 that suggests to me that any payments that she made to him 436 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,600 had anything to do with the dog. 437 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,033 Anything to do with the dog. 438 00:18:49,033 --> 00:18:50,967 Mr. Wright was very clear. 439 00:18:50,967 --> 00:18:54,400 He said he received $700 for the dog. 440 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,967 There were two payments that were identified in his register 441 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:01,967 as payments for Scrappy. 442 00:19:01,967 --> 00:19:04,800 There is absolutely nothing in your daughter's register 443 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,533 that she gave me of these odd payments, $160 or $70, 444 00:19:09,533 --> 00:19:12,300 say Scrappy on it. Not one. 445 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:16,500 So, I've already made a determination of where the dog is staying. 446 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:21,333 The dog is staying wherever Mr. Wright wants the dog to stay. 447 00:19:21,333 --> 00:19:23,600 - 'cause he owns the dog. - [Melissa] Okay. 448 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,767 - Understand? - Yes. 449 00:19:24,767 --> 00:19:27,934 So, now, that's your daughter's case. 450 00:19:27,934 --> 00:19:29,967 I finished that part of the case. 451 00:19:29,967 --> 00:19:32,633 What I want to know is, he has a counterclaim, 452 00:19:32,633 --> 00:19:34,867 and his counterclaim was that your daughter, 453 00:19:34,867 --> 00:19:38,667 while in an intoxicated state, assaulted him. 454 00:19:38,667 --> 00:19:41,367 Some of that I saw on this video. 455 00:19:41,367 --> 00:19:43,934 Some of it you saw on the video. 456 00:19:43,934 --> 00:19:46,633 Mr. Caldwell was... honest. 457 00:19:46,633 --> 00:19:50,200 Because it doesn't look as if he was injured as a result of that. 458 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,066 And I'm absolutely not discounting the fact that 459 00:19:55,066 --> 00:19:57,800 no one should put their hands on somebody else, 460 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,367 but an assault requires an injury. 461 00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:02,767 - And, so, if this is an attack... - [Scrappy snorting] 462 00:20:02,767 --> 00:20:04,633 - Is that dog sleeping? - [Jasmine] No, that's... 463 00:20:04,633 --> 00:20:06,633 - That is so funny. - [Melissa] He grunts all the time. 464 00:20:06,633 --> 00:20:07,900 That is so funny. 465 00:20:09,033 --> 00:20:10,834 So, Mr. Caldwell. 466 00:20:10,834 --> 00:20:16,333 Can you show me what damage you allege Miss Jones caused your property? 467 00:20:16,333 --> 00:20:17,600 That's the next thing. 468 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,900 You said an assault, which never happened, because there was no physical injury. 469 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:23,967 Would you mind telling me, please, 470 00:20:23,967 --> 00:20:27,667 what property specifically and photographs of that property? 471 00:20:27,667 --> 00:20:29,000 - I don't have it. - Okay, so, 472 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,433 your counterclaim's dismissed. 473 00:20:30,433 --> 00:20:33,033 Judgement for the Plaintiff in the amount of $1,600 474 00:20:33,033 --> 00:20:37,734 for the vet bills that she paid, or is obligated to pay on her credit. 475 00:20:37,734 --> 00:20:39,767 It's not assault unless I get hurt? 476 00:20:39,767 --> 00:20:42,166 Yes, it's not an assault unless there is an injury. 477 00:20:42,166 --> 00:20:43,734 - So, if I was drunk beating her up - That is an attempt... 478 00:20:43,734 --> 00:20:44,834 - at her house? - Just a second, if that's 479 00:20:44,834 --> 00:20:47,867 an attempted... sir, it's an attempted assault. 480 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,967 Do you understand? If an assault has a specific definition. 481 00:20:51,967 --> 00:20:54,367 I believe she probably attempted to assault you 482 00:20:54,367 --> 00:20:56,900 when she touched you in an unauthorized manner. 483 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:58,433 She was punching me in the face, that's not an... 484 00:20:58,433 --> 00:21:00,233 - Show me a picture of any injury. - It was in the... 485 00:21:00,233 --> 00:21:03,066 Show me... no. I didn't see that in the video, sir. 486 00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:04,767 I saw her lunging towards you. 487 00:21:04,767 --> 00:21:07,433 Do you understand? I saw her lunging towards you. 488 00:21:07,433 --> 00:21:08,633 - All right. - I didn't see her hit you, 489 00:21:08,633 --> 00:21:11,133 I didn't see a photograph of any injury, 490 00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:12,700 I didn't see a police report 491 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:14,400 - where you reported any injury. - She has police 492 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,834 report incidences with her being drunk and fighting other men. 493 00:21:16,834 --> 00:21:20,000 Okey dokey. Did you understand what I said? 494 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,033 An assault requires injury. 495 00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:26,266 An attempted assault does not. 496 00:21:26,266 --> 00:21:27,867 And attempted assault is a crime. 497 00:21:27,867 --> 00:21:31,667 But it's a crime which I choose, because of the circumstances here, 498 00:21:31,667 --> 00:21:34,767 not to consider and not to award you any cash award 499 00:21:34,767 --> 00:21:36,934 because you were not injured in any way. 500 00:21:36,934 --> 00:21:41,367 So, unless you have photographs of the pair of shoes that you say she cut, 501 00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:43,767 or something else, I'm dismissing your counterclaim. 502 00:21:43,767 --> 00:21:46,166 We got it? Good. Okay. 503 00:21:46,166 --> 00:21:49,867 Judgement for the Plaintiff in the amount of $1,600. Thank you very much. 504 00:21:49,867 --> 00:21:51,734 [Bailiff] This court is adjourned. 505 00:21:51,734 --> 00:21:55,433 Scrappy was not just, like, a dog or a pet, like, 506 00:21:55,433 --> 00:21:57,667 he was my support. 507 00:21:57,667 --> 00:22:00,433 I mean, it was fair. Obviously she had nothing to do with the dog. 508 00:22:00,433 --> 00:22:04,633 {\an8}It's expected because he lied the entire time that we were together. 509 00:22:04,633 --> 00:22:05,633 And that's a lie. 510 00:22:05,633 --> 00:22:10,100 {\an8}Him not to have given him any of the money that I put towards Scrappy. 511 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:13,800 {\an8}She literally just got all the transactions that we've ever done 512 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,033 between each other on Venmo or Zelle and brought that to court. 513 00:22:17,033 --> 00:22:20,066 {\an8}Now I just think, like, he was pocketing that money the entire time. 514 00:22:20,066 --> 00:22:22,967 And that's why it was dismissed, because it wasn't valid at all. 515 00:22:26,433 --> 00:22:31,333 So, I disagree with you a little bit on the countersuit of the assault charge. 516 00:22:31,333 --> 00:22:33,100 I have a more... Common law... 517 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,800 So, assault versus battery, as far as I learned, 518 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,367 was assault was just the imminent threat of a harm. 519 00:22:39,367 --> 00:22:42,633 You're fearing for your life or offensive contact of some sort. 520 00:22:42,633 --> 00:22:45,834 Whereas, battery is the actual offensive touching. 521 00:22:45,834 --> 00:22:47,367 There has to be some sort of contact. 522 00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:50,300 So, if we're ruling by common law, which I know we're not bound 523 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:52,467 by any particular state's jurisdiction, 524 00:22:52,467 --> 00:22:55,900 I would have awarded him something for the assault claim. 525 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,266 - My training is in New York... - Mm-hmm. 526 00:22:58,467 --> 00:23:01,867 and in New York, there is no crime of battery. 527 00:23:01,867 --> 00:23:03,667 My training was, it's assault. 528 00:23:03,667 --> 00:23:08,200 And for an assault, there has to be a physical touching and injury. 529 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,700 And an attempted assault 530 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:13,700 is placing someone in fear of imminent physical injury. 531 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:17,233 I think you're probably right that there are jurisdictions that are different. 532 00:23:17,233 --> 00:23:22,100 We didn't actually see any contact between her and him. 533 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,700 - [Sarah] And he was honest, he said, - We saw... yeah. 534 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,734 "You know, obviously I didn't have any injuries, but..." 535 00:23:25,734 --> 00:23:29,100 Right. Just says he didn't have any evidence to support 536 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:33,433 the fact that she had destroyed or damaged some of his personal property. 537 00:23:33,433 --> 00:23:37,066 Unfortunate, but you'd make a good point with regard to the assault. 538 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:42,767 {\an8}[announcer] Want justice? Go to JudyJustice.tv