1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,400 {\an8}While we were living there he harassed me every day. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,533 You could've moved. 3 00:00:04,533 --> 00:00:07,567 He started arguing with me in front of my 11-year-old kid. 4 00:00:07,567 --> 00:00:09,834 He made him cry. He is a monster! 5 00:00:09,834 --> 00:00:11,066 But you stayed there. 6 00:00:11,066 --> 00:00:12,900 I deserve my deposit back. 7 00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:15,166 I deserve my deposit back, That's all I know. 8 00:00:15,166 --> 00:00:16,367 That's why we're in court. 9 00:00:16,367 --> 00:00:18,700 [narrator] This is Judy Justice. 10 00:00:18,700 --> 00:00:20,567 {\an8}[theme music playing] 11 00:00:35,834 --> 00:00:40,834 {\an8}[Narrator] Mary Tsotsikyan is suing her former landlord, Kazi Ahmmad, 12 00:00:40,834 --> 00:00:45,333 for a security deposit, invasion of privacy, and harassment. 13 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:47,333 [bailiff] Court, come to order. All rise. 14 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:49,333 Have a seat, please. 15 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:53,867 {\an8}Case #2047 Tsotsikyan vs. Ahmmad. 16 00:00:53,867 --> 00:00:55,967 - [Judy] Thank you. - [bailiff] You're welcome. 17 00:00:55,967 --> 00:00:57,667 - You had a house? - Yes. 18 00:00:57,667 --> 00:00:58,667 Where? 19 00:00:58,667 --> 00:00:59,967 In Sun Valley. 20 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:01,567 When did you purchase the house? 21 00:01:01,567 --> 00:01:04,166 I purchased it, uh, four years ago. 22 00:01:04,166 --> 00:01:05,633 How much did you pay for it? 23 00:01:05,633 --> 00:01:09,500 {\an8}We purchased it for $585,000, I believe. 24 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:13,667 {\an8}[Judy] And you sold that house to Mr. Ahmmad. What month and year? 25 00:01:13,667 --> 00:01:17,567 We sold it in, I believe it was January. 26 00:01:17,567 --> 00:01:19,633 - Of 2022 - Yes. 27 00:01:19,633 --> 00:01:21,133 And you sold it for how much? 28 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:23,300 - $574,500. - [Judy] Where did you move to? 29 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:24,600 [Mary] I moved to Palmdale. 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,333 - [Judy] Did you buy something else? - Yes. 31 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:29,734 - And Mr. Ahmmad, you took a mortgage out? - Yes. 32 00:01:29,734 --> 00:01:31,200 [Judy] How much is your mortgage? 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,633 I bought the house February 15, 2022, not January. 34 00:01:36,633 --> 00:01:39,033 And I pay for it $710,000. 35 00:01:39,033 --> 00:01:40,800 - [Judy] So, you paid $710? - Yes. 36 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,300 - [Judy] Not $574. - No. 37 00:01:42,300 --> 00:01:43,934 Does that sound right to you? 38 00:01:43,934 --> 00:01:48,133 {\an8}Um, yeah, I might not be remembering the exact amount. 39 00:01:48,133 --> 00:01:52,400 {\an8}Well, that's a big "not exactly," $574 to $710 is a big difference. 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,066 - Yeah, it was $710. - In one case you lost money. 41 00:01:55,066 --> 00:01:57,000 In one case, you made money. 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,133 - It was $710, I apologize. - [Judy] Okay. 43 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:00,934 - So, $710? - Yes. 44 00:02:00,934 --> 00:02:02,066 - Yes, Honor. - Thank you. 45 00:02:02,066 --> 00:02:03,033 You're welcome. 46 00:02:03,033 --> 00:02:05,100 How much is your mortgage payment each month? 47 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:06,500 {\an8}Uh, $5,100. 48 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:10,700 {\an8}[Judy] And when you sold Mr. Ahmmad the house you didn't have a place to go, 49 00:02:10,700 --> 00:02:14,233 according to your complaint, and you asked for a rent-back. 50 00:02:14,233 --> 00:02:17,066 - I was in escrow. - But you didn't have a place to go. 51 00:02:17,066 --> 00:02:20,667 Whether you were in escrow or in an igloo in Eskimo, 52 00:02:20,667 --> 00:02:23,000 doesn't mean anything, you didn't have a place to go. 53 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,066 [Mary] Yes, Correct. 54 00:02:24,066 --> 00:02:29,000 So, you asked them if you could stay in the house and rent it from them. 55 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,200 How many people are there in your family? 56 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,767 My family, it's three kids. 57 00:02:32,767 --> 00:02:34,100 So, who was living in the house? 58 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:35,767 - Your three child... - It was me, my husband, 59 00:02:35,767 --> 00:02:39,100 and I have my two sons that are with me. My daughter doesn't live with me. 60 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:42,433 So, you asked if you could rent the house back for a few months. 61 00:02:42,433 --> 00:02:45,500 He was nice, he said yes. How much rent did he ask for? 62 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:48,166 - He asked for $4,000. - [Judy] He asked for $4,000? 63 00:02:48,166 --> 00:02:50,266 Yes, for three bedrooms, he asked for $4,000. 64 00:02:50,266 --> 00:02:51,934 - Your Honor, no... - Just a second. 65 00:02:51,934 --> 00:02:55,667 He asked for $4,000 even though his mortgage was $5,100? 66 00:02:55,667 --> 00:02:58,600 Four thousand. I paid a whole total together, 67 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,834 with everything, with security deposit, I paid $12,000 all together. 68 00:03:01,834 --> 00:03:03,800 That's not what I'm asking, with security deposit. 69 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,066 That's what we're here for. For your security deposit. 70 00:03:06,166 --> 00:03:07,100 Yeah. 71 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:09,066 I'm asking you how much did he originally ask you? 72 00:03:09,066 --> 00:03:10,633 $4,000, was the... 73 00:03:10,633 --> 00:03:13,033 {\an8}[Judy] Ok, well that was pretty generous of him 74 00:03:13,033 --> 00:03:17,600 {\an8}to ask for $4,000, considering his mortgage was $5,100 75 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,600 and he doesn't know you from a hole in the wall. 76 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,233 So, that makes him a very nice person. 77 00:03:21,233 --> 00:03:24,600 To rent it back to you so that he's at a loss every month 78 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,800 of $1,100. Do you understand? 79 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,367 - Yes, I do understand. - [Judy] Great. 80 00:03:28,367 --> 00:03:32,800 And what you're doing here is you want your deposit back. 81 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,133 - Yes, that's correct. - [Judy] Four thousand dollars. 82 00:03:35,133 --> 00:03:37,567 And Mr. Ahmmad says 83 00:03:37,567 --> 00:03:42,033 {\an8}that not only did he have to spend $4,000 84 00:03:42,033 --> 00:03:46,100 {\an8}to fix the damage you and your family caused to the house 85 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:48,767 while you were living there for those few months, 86 00:03:48,767 --> 00:03:52,500 but he had to spend an additional $6,000, that's what he says. 87 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:56,200 {\an8}He had to spend an additional $6,000 because the place was destroyed 88 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,467 because you had a disagreement with him 89 00:03:58,467 --> 00:04:02,700 over the date that you were going to be receiving your deposit back. 90 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,233 That's his claim. 91 00:04:04,233 --> 00:04:08,266 So, there were a couple of things that were sort of questionable to me... 92 00:04:08,266 --> 00:04:11,500 I have not damaged, though. I have pictures of the house when I left, 93 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:13,333 - [Judy] Just a second. - there was no damage. 94 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:15,200 That's fine, you're gonna show them to me. 95 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,200 The one thing that I found strange... So now, I have the facts straight. 96 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,133 So you moved into the house in February? 97 00:04:21,133 --> 00:04:22,300 - In the house? - [Judy] Yes. 98 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:23,533 - Yes. - [Judy] So, you rented 99 00:04:23,533 --> 00:04:25,166 - in February and March? - [Mary] Yes. 100 00:04:25,166 --> 00:04:27,200 - [Judy] Two months? - We moved out April sixth. 101 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,800 [Judy] Okay. Now, you told him you were moving out. 102 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,967 - Mm-hmm. - [Judy] And he came to the house 103 00:04:31,967 --> 00:04:35,867 to do an inspection. And that was before your move-out date. 104 00:04:35,867 --> 00:04:40,734 On what date did you meet together for him to go through the house? 105 00:04:40,734 --> 00:04:43,367 And let me refresh your recollection. 106 00:04:43,367 --> 00:04:46,066 You came to the house, he walked around with you 107 00:04:46,066 --> 00:04:49,700 and at that time he said, "these few things need repair." 108 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:52,333 And there was not extensive damage anywhere. 109 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:55,433 And when he got to the house, he rang the bell 110 00:04:55,433 --> 00:04:58,300 and you opened the door and you looked through the house. 111 00:04:58,300 --> 00:04:59,400 Yes. 112 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,367 On what date was that, do you remember? 113 00:05:01,367 --> 00:05:03,734 The date that I gave him my keys to the door? 114 00:05:03,734 --> 00:05:06,500 No, no, that's not the date you moved out, 115 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:09,900 that's the date that he came there to do a walkthrough 116 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:13,800 with you, your husband, and/or children, I don't know who was there. 117 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,867 Your Honor, he made a lot of walkthroughs. 118 00:05:16,867 --> 00:05:19,233 [Judy] No, I'm asking for the last one that he made. 119 00:05:19,233 --> 00:05:20,367 - The last one? - Yes. 120 00:05:20,367 --> 00:05:23,133 The last one he did, I was, I don't remember the exact date, 121 00:05:23,133 --> 00:05:25,567 - but he had four or five walkthroughs. - Do you remember the date? 122 00:05:25,567 --> 00:05:27,734 - [Judy] What was the date? - March 23. 123 00:05:27,734 --> 00:05:30,133 And when you went to the house on March 23rd, 124 00:05:30,133 --> 00:05:34,367 and they had been living there February... All of February and most of March. 125 00:05:34,367 --> 00:05:36,900 - March. - [Judy] Was the house in good shape 126 00:05:36,900 --> 00:05:38,333 - on March 23rd? - No. 127 00:05:38,333 --> 00:05:41,166 {\an8}[Judy] Was it in the same shape on March 23rd 128 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:43,400 {\an8}when you saw it on April 6th? 129 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,700 {\an8}Uh, yes. 130 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:47,767 {\an8}Because when I saw the damages of my house, 131 00:05:47,767 --> 00:05:50,200 I request her, "what is this?" I show her. 132 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,400 No, just a second. What did you show her? 133 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,734 About the floor damage, wall damage, and there is... 134 00:05:57,734 --> 00:06:02,133 [Judy] Oh, well show me on the pictures that you took on March 23rd. 135 00:06:02,133 --> 00:06:03,800 - Okay. - He probably damaged it himself. 136 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,367 - From his construction that he did. - [Judy] Just a second. 137 00:06:06,367 --> 00:06:08,433 He did construction while I was living there. 138 00:06:08,433 --> 00:06:10,567 For the whole two months he did construction. 139 00:06:10,567 --> 00:06:11,567 I don't care. 140 00:06:11,567 --> 00:06:14,567 [Judy] You know what I find problematic in both your complaint and... 141 00:06:14,567 --> 00:06:16,400 [Kazi] I would like to pass my evidence... 142 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,033 - [Judy] Shh! Just a second. - Okay. 143 00:06:18,033 --> 00:06:22,300 I'm gonna tell you what I find difficult in both your complaint and his answer. 144 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:26,133 That when you left the house, you took the doorbell with you. 145 00:06:26,133 --> 00:06:28,266 - The doorbell... - [Judy] When you left the house, 146 00:06:28,266 --> 00:06:30,166 you took the doorbell with you! 147 00:06:30,166 --> 00:06:33,166 He bought the house, he's paid you for the house. 148 00:06:33,166 --> 00:06:36,300 You've got $710,000. 149 00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:40,633 On the day the house closed, there is no question in my mind 150 00:06:40,633 --> 00:06:42,233 that there was a doorbell! 151 00:06:42,233 --> 00:06:44,533 - [Mary] Okay. Yes. - Do you understand? 152 00:06:44,533 --> 00:06:48,367 You have no right to take anything from that house 153 00:06:48,367 --> 00:06:50,600 once it's sold. You're a renter! 154 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,133 Your honor, I believe I do. Because on the document 155 00:06:53,133 --> 00:06:55,500 it says the only thing I'm supposed to leave for him 156 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:57,000 is the washer and dryer and stove. 157 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,233 [Judy] That's... Madam! 158 00:06:58,233 --> 00:07:00,700 That's something... Have you never bought property before 159 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:02,333 or are you just trying to be obtuse? 160 00:07:02,333 --> 00:07:07,200 I would never think... I've bought and sold dozens of homes. 161 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,600 Never, in one contract, 162 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,166 in all, and I'm a lawyer, my husband's a lawyer, 163 00:07:12,166 --> 00:07:14,800 grandchildren are lawyers, my children are lawyers. 164 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,233 Not in one contract does it ever talk about a doorbell. 165 00:07:18,233 --> 00:07:22,066 It is assumed that you leave the doorbell, that you leave the toilets... 166 00:07:22,066 --> 00:07:25,033 {\an8}[Mary] No, that was not a doorbell, it was a ring camera! 167 00:07:25,033 --> 00:07:27,600 {\an8}[Judy] I don't care if it was a ring camera! 168 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,333 I don't care if it was an MGM camera or a Universal Picture camera! 169 00:07:32,333 --> 00:07:35,734 it's not yours! It's part of the property. 170 00:07:35,734 --> 00:07:38,834 You have no right to take it. Period! 171 00:07:38,834 --> 00:07:41,633 Put your hand down, I'm... You know, sometimes, 172 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:45,934 when it doesn't appear you're losing, you're supposed to be quiet. 173 00:07:45,934 --> 00:07:49,500 Do you understand? You have no right to take certain things. 174 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:53,033 Once the house is sold, nothing there belongs to you. 175 00:07:53,033 --> 00:07:55,367 Nothing! You're a renter. 176 00:07:55,367 --> 00:07:57,800 That was before the house was... 177 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,367 [Judy] Just a second. Are you telling me 178 00:08:00,367 --> 00:08:03,100 that when you stayed there after the house was sold, 179 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:05,033 for the two months that you lived there, 180 00:08:05,033 --> 00:08:07,166 are you telling me you lived without a doorbell? 181 00:08:07,166 --> 00:08:11,133 Shh! Are you telling me that you lived without a doorbell? 182 00:08:11,133 --> 00:08:13,266 No! You lived with a doorbell! 183 00:08:13,266 --> 00:08:15,967 It's a ring... Your Honor, it's a ring camera. 184 00:08:15,967 --> 00:08:18,467 I don't care what it is, you can't take it! 185 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:20,367 It's not the doorbell it's a ring camera. 186 00:08:20,367 --> 00:08:23,033 You can take it off and take it to your next property. 187 00:08:23,033 --> 00:08:25,066 It's something that I bought. 188 00:08:25,066 --> 00:08:28,033 You bought a lot of things in that house, I'm sure. 189 00:08:28,033 --> 00:08:29,433 Did you buy wallpaper? 190 00:08:29,433 --> 00:08:31,533 Did you buy flooring? Did you buy carpeting? 191 00:08:31,533 --> 00:08:35,000 You can't take it. It doesn't belong to you. 192 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,200 It travels with the property. When you say it's a ring camera, 193 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,233 when you ring the doorbell, does that activate the ring camera? 194 00:08:43,233 --> 00:08:44,500 Yes, it does. 195 00:08:44,500 --> 00:08:49,066 And when you took out the whole ring camera, did you put in a doorbell? 196 00:08:49,066 --> 00:08:51,767 The doorbell was already there, I never touched the doorbell. 197 00:08:51,767 --> 00:08:53,200 That's why I took the camera, 198 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,166 the ring camera, 'cause that belongs to me. 199 00:08:55,166 --> 00:08:57,066 I bought that. I didn't touch the doorbell. 200 00:08:57,066 --> 00:08:58,800 That's not, that's part of the house. 201 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,533 That's part of the property, It's in the wall. 202 00:09:01,533 --> 00:09:03,700 Can I see a picture of what she took? 203 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:06,000 [Kazi] My doorbell is not here. Here is the point... 204 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,934 [Mary] I did not touch the doorbell Again, he did a lot of remodeling. 205 00:09:09,934 --> 00:09:12,967 He probably did all the damages himself. He's trying to blame it on me. 206 00:09:12,967 --> 00:09:14,467 [Kazi] No, that's not it at all. 207 00:09:14,467 --> 00:09:16,266 [Judy] You're not allowed to take it, period! 208 00:09:16,266 --> 00:09:19,800 [Judy] You're not allowed to take it. Now, so I'm starting with your case. 209 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,633 - You want your deposit back? - Yes. 210 00:09:21,633 --> 00:09:24,934 This gets deducted from your deposit. Did you replace this? 211 00:09:24,934 --> 00:09:25,934 [Kazi] Not yet. 212 00:09:25,934 --> 00:09:28,133 Did you get an estimate for its replacement? 213 00:09:28,133 --> 00:09:29,934 - [Kazi] Yes, I did. - I'd like to see it. 214 00:09:29,934 --> 00:09:30,900 [Kazi] Okay. 215 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:36,100 {\an8}And not only the doorbell, Your Honor, she took, um, the curtain rods 216 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:38,000 {\an8}and also all the lightbulbs. 217 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,467 - Just a second. - [Kazi] Okay. 218 00:09:39,467 --> 00:09:40,467 Give me some time. 219 00:09:40,467 --> 00:09:41,867 [Judy] I don't have time! 220 00:09:41,867 --> 00:09:45,100 - [Kazi] All right. - Can I please explain what happened 221 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:47,133 and what I went through with this guy from day one? 222 00:09:47,133 --> 00:09:48,433 - [Judy] No. - That he let me rent... 223 00:09:48,433 --> 00:09:50,567 - No. - [Mary] Because I want to prove my case. 224 00:09:50,567 --> 00:09:52,300 Because he's wrong and he's a crook. 225 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:55,900 No, no, no, Madam, you rented the house. 226 00:09:55,900 --> 00:09:58,467 - [Mary] Yes. - For $4,000 a month. 227 00:09:58,467 --> 00:10:00,300 - [Mary] Yes. - A three bedroom house. 228 00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:01,934 [Mary] I paid him the amount. 229 00:10:01,934 --> 00:10:04,800 And you paid him the amount, and you stayed there. 230 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,867 If there was something wrong with the house, 231 00:10:06,867 --> 00:10:10,700 or if you didn't like the fact that he was doing construction there, 232 00:10:10,700 --> 00:10:14,367 or coming in and out of the house, even though he was renting it to you 233 00:10:14,367 --> 00:10:17,667 for $1,100 less than his mortgage payment... 234 00:10:17,667 --> 00:10:20,266 - Okay? You could've moved. - Your Honor, Your Honor... 235 00:10:20,266 --> 00:10:22,767 Let me just tell you that he promised me from day... 236 00:10:22,767 --> 00:10:27,133 He, let me just tell you he kept texting me over and over, 237 00:10:27,133 --> 00:10:30,266 {\an8}bringing renters to show my side of the place to live, 238 00:10:30,266 --> 00:10:33,300 {\an8}while we were living there. He harassed me every day 239 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:35,000 {\an8}by text messages and phone calls. 240 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,967 "Can I show the house?" Every single day... 241 00:10:36,967 --> 00:10:39,000 Who cares? I don't care! 242 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,767 It caused a lot of tension in my family! 243 00:10:40,767 --> 00:10:42,800 I don't care. Move! 244 00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:47,934 - She intentionally damaged... - [Mary] I didn't do that. 245 00:10:47,934 --> 00:10:50,266 These... Shh! Shh! 246 00:10:50,266 --> 00:10:52,500 I'm gonna dismiss your case. Do you understand? 247 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:54,467 One, two, three. It will be my joy. 248 00:10:59,333 --> 00:11:01,233 [theme music playing] 249 00:11:05,934 --> 00:11:10,333 {\an8}[Narrator] Mary Tsotsikyan claims her former landlord, Kazi Ahmmad, 250 00:11:10,333 --> 00:11:14,033 {\an8}refused to return her security deposit and harassed her. 251 00:11:14,033 --> 00:11:17,233 Kazi is counter-suing for vandalism. 252 00:11:17,233 --> 00:11:22,033 Now, if you didn't like to live in a place where you were being constantly harassed, 253 00:11:22,033 --> 00:11:26,700 you and your husband now have $110,000 profit from selling your house... 254 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:29,900 I gave him a $10,000 discount on that property! And he... 255 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:33,066 Did you understand what I just said to you? 256 00:11:33,066 --> 00:11:35,767 Move! Say, "listen, it's not working out." 257 00:11:35,767 --> 00:11:38,333 You're bringing too many people in and out of the house, 258 00:11:38,333 --> 00:11:39,400 it's not working for me. 259 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,633 [Judy] Wait just a second. "We'd like to move out before." 260 00:11:42,633 --> 00:11:45,133 Did you ever say that to him? The answer is "no." 261 00:11:45,133 --> 00:11:48,200 Because I had a lease with him. And I don't get my deposit if I... 262 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,500 - [Judy] Just a second. - Yes. 263 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:51,567 Did you ever say that to him? 264 00:11:51,567 --> 00:11:54,400 "I would like to give you your property back earlier. 265 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,934 We don't need it for two months because I don't want to be harassed. 266 00:11:57,934 --> 00:12:02,066 We're going to move out into a hotel until our house is ready." 267 00:12:02,066 --> 00:12:03,400 But you stayed there. 268 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,100 No, I told him that we can't keep having people come and knock on our door... 269 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:08,433 Okay. Madam, madam. 270 00:12:08,433 --> 00:12:11,233 You're not getting compensated for that. You're a big girl. 271 00:12:11,233 --> 00:12:13,300 You made a lot of money on this house. 272 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:17,667 You asked for a deal for him to rent it back to you, he said fine. 273 00:12:17,667 --> 00:12:20,967 He's gonna tell me that he wanted to have his mortgage covered, 274 00:12:20,967 --> 00:12:23,834 and you were not prepared, you were not prepared to do that. 275 00:12:23,834 --> 00:12:25,467 Your Honor, let me just tell you, 276 00:12:25,467 --> 00:12:28,967 the living situation for that two months that I was there was Hell with him. 277 00:12:28,967 --> 00:12:31,033 He caused me all kinds of anxiety. 278 00:12:31,033 --> 00:12:35,033 The last day, when I was supposed to give him the keys so I can leave, 279 00:12:35,033 --> 00:12:38,834 {\an8}he opened the door and started arguing with me in front of my 11-year-old kid. 280 00:12:38,834 --> 00:12:41,367 {\an8}He made him cry, he caused a lot of trauma to our family. 281 00:12:41,367 --> 00:12:43,000 Your Honor, her son was not there. 282 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,567 He is a monster, he doesn't care. Then he did remodeling. 283 00:12:45,567 --> 00:12:47,400 Now he's trying to get the money out of me 284 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,500 to pay for it because he's broke, that's why. 285 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:52,967 First of all, this comes off the deposit and I want to see the estimate. 286 00:12:55,467 --> 00:12:58,967 All I want is my $4,000 deposit, security deposit back. 287 00:12:58,967 --> 00:13:02,367 - I'm not sure you're gonna get it. - I paid his rent on time, 288 00:13:02,367 --> 00:13:05,767 like a good renter. All I wanted was my deposit back. That's it. 289 00:13:05,767 --> 00:13:08,133 On March 23rd... Shh! 290 00:13:08,133 --> 00:13:11,867 On March 23rd of this year, when he came 291 00:13:11,867 --> 00:13:14,834 to do an initial walkthrough with you, 292 00:13:14,834 --> 00:13:18,266 before you were leaving, did you discuss deposit? 293 00:13:18,266 --> 00:13:20,967 - Oh, yes! I made very sure... - [Judy] The answer is "yes." 294 00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:22,767 - The answer is "yes." - Yes. 295 00:13:22,767 --> 00:13:25,400 And at that time, did he say to you, 296 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,300 "This needs fixed, this needs fixed." Did he say anything to you? Nothing. 297 00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:34,233 Did he tell you that he had, by law, 21 days to return your deposit? 298 00:13:34,233 --> 00:13:35,300 Yes. 299 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:36,900 [Judy] And what did you say to him? 300 00:13:36,900 --> 00:13:39,100 I said, "That's fine, I will wait the 20 days." 301 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:41,433 - But he was... Yes. - [Judy] No, just a second. 302 00:13:41,433 --> 00:13:44,166 You said "It was fine, I'll wait the 20 days." 303 00:13:44,166 --> 00:13:45,967 Yeah, to get my deposit, yes. 304 00:13:45,967 --> 00:13:48,000 Okay. And then, what happened? 305 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,166 I have every text that we sent to each other... 306 00:13:50,166 --> 00:13:52,500 [Judy] I'm not reading every text you sent each other. 307 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:57,600 I'm asking you, after March 23rd... Go to your March 23rd texts... 308 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:58,767 I do have here. 309 00:13:58,767 --> 00:14:00,166 He basically said he... 310 00:14:00,166 --> 00:14:04,767 Not "basically." I said, go to your March 23rd and thereafter... 311 00:14:04,767 --> 00:14:06,166 I have it, Your Honor, for you. 312 00:14:06,166 --> 00:14:09,100 After March 23rd. Go to your... Do you have text messages? 313 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:11,100 - [Mary] Yes, it's here. - You're looking at me. 314 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,600 Okay. I have a March 23 here. 315 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,000 He led me on in the text messages saying, you help me pay my mortgage, 316 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,200 I will help and give you your security deposit back. 317 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,934 I'm asking you to show me the text messages after March 23rd... 318 00:14:23,934 --> 00:14:26,033 - This is the March 23rd. - ...and thereafter. 319 00:14:26,033 --> 00:14:28,400 "You paid deposit back when there isn't any damage 320 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,300 to the house. You don't use my deposit for anything else. 321 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:33,800 You hold it for damages." "Here is the notice, 322 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,433 I would like you to meet with you 323 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:38,066 and your husband, please let me know when you are available." 324 00:14:38,066 --> 00:14:40,834 "Please don't threat me with my deposit." 325 00:14:40,834 --> 00:14:42,500 - I wasn't. - He was threatening me. 326 00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:43,967 - I wasn't. - [Judy] Just a minute. 327 00:14:43,967 --> 00:14:46,500 {\an8}"Please don't threat me," you mean 'threaten me,' 328 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:47,600 {\an8}with my deposit." 329 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,700 "Can you show me where on the contract it says the washer and dryer stays." 330 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:55,433 That I found, it stays. And we did leave it there. 331 00:14:55,433 --> 00:14:57,900 She tried to take with her, that too. 332 00:14:57,900 --> 00:15:00,300 Again, your honor I'm just here for my deposit. 333 00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:05,066 Because, I did my responsibilities and paid the rent, I was a good tenant. 334 00:15:05,066 --> 00:15:08,400 I kept the house beautifully clean and everything. 335 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,667 I deserve my deposit back. That's why I'm here. 336 00:15:10,667 --> 00:15:13,500 I don't want to deal with him, I don't want to see him ever again. 337 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:15,266 - I want my deposit. - I know what you want. 338 00:15:15,266 --> 00:15:16,934 - That's it! - That's why we're in court! 339 00:15:16,934 --> 00:15:18,900 If he felt as if you deserved your deposit... 340 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:21,800 And if I left the house perfect, he needs to give it to me... 341 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,600 because I didn't do no damages to that property. 342 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,700 - [Judy] Okay. - [Mary] He's lying, he... 343 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:29,500 "Can you show me where the contract says the washer and dryer stays 344 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:30,633 because I don't see it. 345 00:15:30,633 --> 00:15:34,300 {\an8}I made it very clear to everyone that I paid for it. 346 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:36,367 That it's going with me." 347 00:15:36,367 --> 00:15:38,300 That was before I looked at the document. 348 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:39,800 - [Judy] Just a second! - Yes. 349 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,200 So, that's before you looked at the document. 350 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,333 - [Mary] Yes. - When did you look at the document? 351 00:15:44,333 --> 00:15:46,767 I looked at it... It was at home when I noticed it. 352 00:15:46,767 --> 00:15:50,166 Did you respond to him after the 23rd, and say to him "I realize 353 00:15:50,166 --> 00:15:53,433 {\an8}- that the washer and dryer stays." - No! Because he's been threatening me. 354 00:15:53,433 --> 00:15:55,800 {\an8}Why am I gonna respond to him? He's been a monster! 355 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,633 [Judy] Please show me photographs of what the house looked like. 356 00:15:58,633 --> 00:15:59,934 [Judy] Show me where... 357 00:16:00,066 --> 00:16:03,266 Just a second, show me what the house looked like on April 6th. 358 00:16:03,266 --> 00:16:05,967 [Mary] This is the pictures I have. A perfect little house. 359 00:16:05,967 --> 00:16:09,133 Just a... Shh! Don't speak, just show me. 360 00:16:09,133 --> 00:16:11,166 I'm just trying to say that, um, 361 00:16:11,166 --> 00:16:14,667 I'm not here for anything empty, I'm here for my deposit. 362 00:16:14,667 --> 00:16:17,000 No, that's not what you're here for, madam, 363 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,567 that's not what you filed a claim for. An invasion of privacy, 364 00:16:20,567 --> 00:16:22,600 - and pain and suffering... - Yes! That too. 365 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,266 There's a whole bunch of things that you're suing for. 366 00:16:25,266 --> 00:16:27,400 Ok, I see these pictures and... 367 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,800 [Mary] The house is in... 368 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,500 Just a second And this is your little dog? 369 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:32,600 [Mary] Yes, it is. 370 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,567 The house is in great shape, he has no complaints... 371 00:16:35,567 --> 00:16:38,500 He's gonna show me pictures. I'm gonna look at them. 372 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:40,467 I deserve my deposit back, that's all I know. 373 00:16:40,467 --> 00:16:43,367 He, he wasted my time, he lied to me, he... 374 00:16:43,367 --> 00:16:46,400 [Judy] Can I see your photographs of what the house looked like too? 375 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,200 Your Honor, this is the picture 376 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,834 of when I bought the property with good condition. 377 00:16:50,834 --> 00:16:53,033 - [Judy] Okay. - And this is the picture for... 378 00:16:53,033 --> 00:16:54,266 She intentionally damaged... 379 00:16:54,266 --> 00:16:56,166 Don't tell me what she intentionally did. 380 00:16:56,166 --> 00:16:57,633 - These are the damages... - Shh! 381 00:16:57,633 --> 00:16:59,233 - I didn't do that - [Judy] Shh! 382 00:16:59,233 --> 00:17:01,300 I'm gonna dismiss your case. Do you understand? 383 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:03,967 One, two, three. It will be my joy. 384 00:17:03,967 --> 00:17:06,900 Anybody who takes out a doorbell ring, or whatever it is, 385 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,066 and leaves holes and mollies in the wall, 386 00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:13,633 which is exactly what you did, just like the washer and dryer. Okay. 387 00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:16,233 - Your Honor, this is the previous... - [Judy] Don't speak. 388 00:17:16,233 --> 00:17:18,567 - Sorry. - Now, I'd like to see the photographs 389 00:17:18,567 --> 00:17:21,667 that you took April 6th, or thereafter. 390 00:17:21,667 --> 00:17:24,100 When did you take those photographs? On what date? 391 00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:28,033 {\an8}I start March 23rd to April, April 6th. 392 00:17:28,033 --> 00:17:29,600 {\an8}I'd like to see the photographs. 393 00:17:30,433 --> 00:17:31,400 Thank you, Your Honor. 394 00:17:37,934 --> 00:17:42,200 You know some of this damage sir, that were in the door hinges, 395 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,467 that's not damage that they did, that's not damage that I can ascribe to them. 396 00:17:46,467 --> 00:17:48,633 There are some holes in the walls, 397 00:17:48,633 --> 00:17:51,567 I know you're showing me this, that you have to deal with. 398 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:56,900 I sold my property to him as is. I did have tenants there... 399 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:58,266 I'll tell you right now... 400 00:17:58,266 --> 00:18:03,066 [Judy] No, I want to know what rent the tenant was paying you. 401 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:05,667 That's a number, not a story! 402 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,166 [theme music playing] 403 00:18:17,767 --> 00:18:22,133 {\an8}[Narrator] Mary Tsotsikyan accuses her former landlord, Kazi Ahmmad, 404 00:18:22,133 --> 00:18:25,600 {\an8}of keeping her security deposit and harassing her. 405 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,967 Kazi claims Mary vandalized his house before she left. 406 00:18:29,967 --> 00:18:33,166 Okay. I don't know what this is that you're showing me in this picture. 407 00:18:33,166 --> 00:18:36,967 [Kazi] Because there is, uh, is a water leak from there. 408 00:18:36,967 --> 00:18:39,734 {\an8}So the water goes in the cabinet, inside. 409 00:18:39,734 --> 00:18:43,066 {\an8}Okay. I assume that you have some sort of insurance. 410 00:18:43,066 --> 00:18:44,667 'Cause they didn't do this damage. 411 00:18:44,667 --> 00:18:45,600 Okay. 412 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,700 They didn't do this damage when they were there. 413 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:51,333 I would like, sir, to see some of the pictures before and after. 414 00:18:51,333 --> 00:18:55,033 This is moldy and it's dirty so they didn't clean the bathtub. 415 00:18:55,033 --> 00:18:57,133 - Where are you living now, sir? - With my mom. 416 00:18:57,133 --> 00:18:59,500 - [Judy] And who's living in the house? - I rent it out. 417 00:18:59,500 --> 00:19:01,867 What's the name of the people that you rented the house to? 418 00:19:01,867 --> 00:19:03,300 It's, uh, Walter. 419 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:04,867 [Judy] When did you rent it, on what date? 420 00:19:04,867 --> 00:19:06,233 I don't remember exact date. 421 00:19:06,233 --> 00:19:08,266 - [Judy] You remember everything else. - Okay. 422 00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:10,400 You remember April 6th, you remember March 23rd. 423 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,033 - Now remember, what day they came. - Okay. June. 424 00:19:14,033 --> 00:19:16,266 So actually, the house was... Just a second. 425 00:19:16,266 --> 00:19:19,867 So actually, the house was unrented for about a month and a half. 426 00:19:19,867 --> 00:19:21,100 Right. 427 00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:23,633 - Because I... - [Judy] Shh! Not a "because." 428 00:19:23,633 --> 00:19:27,500 Now, how much did you rent the house for to Walter? 429 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,734 {\an8}Four thousand. 430 00:19:28,734 --> 00:19:32,133 {\an8}Could you explain to me why you're renting it to somebody 431 00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:34,367 For less than what you pay in your mortgage? 432 00:19:34,367 --> 00:19:38,633 Sure. So, here is the American dream, because I came here 2013, 433 00:19:38,633 --> 00:19:43,734 and I start to live with my mom. So, me and my wife working so hard 434 00:19:43,734 --> 00:19:47,266 to buy the house. We save every penny, day by day, 435 00:19:47,266 --> 00:19:50,000 and we saw a lot of house the last couple years. 436 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,100 I'm not listening, don't tell me your life story. 437 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:55,700 I want to know why you're renting the house for less than your mortgage. 438 00:19:55,700 --> 00:19:57,967 Because, no, the people is very nice 439 00:19:57,967 --> 00:20:01,033 and they said they are going to increase the rent January, 440 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:03,233 they give me $5,000. That's why. 441 00:20:03,233 --> 00:20:05,767 - [Judy] Do you have a lease with them? - I do. Yes. 442 00:20:05,767 --> 00:20:09,367 And does the lease indicate that the rent is being raised in January? 443 00:20:09,367 --> 00:20:10,800 - Yes. - [Judy] What? 444 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,734 Um, that whole thing that he said that his place was not rented 445 00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:16,567 for a month, that's a lie because he was renting the place out 446 00:20:16,567 --> 00:20:17,967 while I was living there. 447 00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:19,734 He had renters all in the back side. 448 00:20:19,734 --> 00:20:21,667 [Judy] You mean they were living with you? 449 00:20:21,667 --> 00:20:23,433 {\an8}They were living in the back house. 450 00:20:23,433 --> 00:20:26,667 {\an8}The house is split with a wall so there's empty rooms in the back. 451 00:20:26,667 --> 00:20:29,867 So, he was literally renting it out, boom-boom, like right away. 452 00:20:29,867 --> 00:20:31,433 - Just a second - While I was there. 453 00:20:31,433 --> 00:20:32,934 Is what you are telling me, 454 00:20:32,934 --> 00:20:36,533 that there are two sources of income from that house? 455 00:20:36,533 --> 00:20:37,734 - Yes - Okay. 456 00:20:37,734 --> 00:20:40,133 - That's interesting. Mr. Ahmmad. - [Kazi] Yes. 457 00:20:40,133 --> 00:20:41,533 - Listen to me carefully. - Sure. 458 00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:43,567 How many tenants do you have in that house? 459 00:20:43,567 --> 00:20:45,567 - Three. Oh. - [Judy] Shh! 460 00:20:45,567 --> 00:20:47,633 - Look at me. How many tenants? - [Kazi] Sure. 461 00:20:47,633 --> 00:20:49,333 - You have Walter. - Yes. 462 00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:51,200 - [Judy] And he pays you $4,000. - Yes. 463 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,900 - Do you have another tenant? - Yes. 464 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:55,333 - [Judy] The other tenant is in the back? - Yes. 465 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:57,166 [Judy] What does the other tenant pay you? 466 00:20:57,166 --> 00:20:58,567 - Okay, the one... - [Judy] No... 467 00:20:58,567 --> 00:21:01,266 That's a figure. What does the other tenant pay you? 468 00:21:02,333 --> 00:21:05,667 Don't look up there. You know exactly how much... 469 00:21:05,667 --> 00:21:07,166 - Three thousand. - [Judy] Three thousand. 470 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:08,633 - So, you cover your mortgage. - Yes. 471 00:21:08,633 --> 00:21:09,967 And you make a little money. 472 00:21:09,967 --> 00:21:12,033 - Yes. - Now, while she was living there... 473 00:21:12,033 --> 00:21:13,800 - Pay attention! - [Kazi] Yes. 474 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,600 While she was living there, were you renting the back? 475 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,633 - Yes. - [Judy] Yes. 476 00:21:18,633 --> 00:21:20,266 And how much were you getting? 477 00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:21,900 - Okay. - That's a number! 478 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:24,734 - [Kazi] Okay. - Before you answer the question, think! 479 00:21:24,734 --> 00:21:27,767 How much were you getting from the people in the back? 480 00:21:27,767 --> 00:21:29,400 - Same. - [Judy] Same what? 481 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,000 - Because that's not my... - [Judy] Just a second 482 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,567 What do you mean the same? The same as what? 483 00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:37,967 The people that used to live there long time with her. 484 00:21:37,967 --> 00:21:39,533 That's her tenant, not mine. 485 00:21:39,533 --> 00:21:41,867 - She just transferred to me. - [Judy] Ah, I see. 486 00:21:41,867 --> 00:21:45,367 - So, you had a tenant living in the back. - [Mary] Yes. 487 00:21:45,367 --> 00:21:48,200 {\an8}- You had a tenant living in the back. - Yes, Your Honor. 488 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,000 {\an8}And what was the rent that you were charging your tenant? 489 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,166 I sold my property to him as is. 490 00:21:53,166 --> 00:21:55,567 I did have tenants there, yes, I did. 491 00:21:55,567 --> 00:21:58,100 And one of the tenants, I'll tell you right now, one... 492 00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:02,800 No! I want to know what rent the tenant was paying you. 493 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,800 That's what I'm saying... 494 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,333 [Judy] Just give me... That's a number, not a story. 495 00:22:06,333 --> 00:22:08,400 Um, one thousand... 496 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,900 uh, and I would say, I would say $2,000 all together. 497 00:22:12,900 --> 00:22:15,000 Sounds to me as if everybody did very well. 498 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,967 You have to pay for the doorbell. 499 00:22:16,967 --> 00:22:20,066 I want a receipt for the doorbell, the rest of the pictures are nonsense. 500 00:22:20,066 --> 00:22:21,700 and you had no loss of income. 501 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:24,967 Just a second. I want, I want the estimate for the doorbell. 502 00:22:24,967 --> 00:22:28,033 That's what I want. That's gonna be deducted from the... 503 00:22:28,033 --> 00:22:30,500 Put your hand down! Otherwise you're gone. 504 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:32,400 Do you understand? Doorbell. 505 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,834 - Estimate. - Eighty-four dollar. 506 00:22:33,834 --> 00:22:36,333 - Eighty-four dollars? - [Kazi] Yes, something like that. 507 00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:37,700 [Judy] Do the math for me. 508 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:42,333 I think it's three thousand, nine hundred, whatever. 509 00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:45,166 Four thousand dollars less $84. 510 00:22:45,166 --> 00:22:46,300 Thirty-nine sixteen. 511 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,133 Thirty-nine sixteen. So, I've looked at your photographs, 512 00:22:51,133 --> 00:22:55,333 and I don't see any damage that you can ascribe to the Plaintiff, 513 00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:57,967 - that I think mitigates... - No, Your Honor. 514 00:22:57,967 --> 00:23:00,233 [Judy] Mitigates in your favor, 515 00:23:00,233 --> 00:23:03,266 other than the doorbell, which I actually find outrageous. 516 00:23:03,266 --> 00:23:04,734 Right, Your Honor. 517 00:23:04,734 --> 00:23:07,233 And, and you had no loss of income. 518 00:23:07,233 --> 00:23:09,900 So, clearly what you did was purchase this house 519 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:13,066 and you make an income from this house. 520 00:23:13,066 --> 00:23:14,467 - He does. - [Judy] Every month. 521 00:23:14,467 --> 00:23:16,233 After I pay my mortgage 522 00:23:16,233 --> 00:23:19,800 and there is a service, like expenses, 523 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,100 and also there is, like utilities bill is so expensive now... 524 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,533 - Property tax, insurance... - [Judy] I don't care, $3,916. 525 00:23:25,533 --> 00:23:28,066 Judgement for the Plaintiff. Your counterclaim is dismissed. 526 00:23:28,066 --> 00:23:29,934 We are finished with this case. Goodbye! 527 00:23:29,934 --> 00:23:31,200 This court is adjourned. 528 00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:37,967 {\an8}I deserve my security deposit back. I did very well with paying the rent. 529 00:23:37,967 --> 00:23:40,000 {\an8}And I feel like this was fair. 530 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,300 {\an8}I'm not happy about it because I'm the buyer, 531 00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:45,700 {\an8}and I bought the house there is a lot of damages 532 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:46,967 {\an8}after she move out. 533 00:23:46,967 --> 00:23:49,400 {\an8}He was pretty much texting 534 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,734 {\an8}and having renters come and knock on my door every day 535 00:23:52,734 --> 00:23:55,467 {\an8}without even giving me a notice ahead of time. 536 00:23:55,467 --> 00:23:59,233 I was always giving to her two-three days notice to go in the property. 537 00:23:59,233 --> 00:24:02,633 It was not easy but you know, we moved on to something better so... 538 00:24:02,633 --> 00:24:04,400 I'm still living in the American dream. 539 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,266 You know, this case is sort of an example of, you read a complaint 540 00:24:09,266 --> 00:24:12,266 and you read an answer and you sort of have a pre-determination 541 00:24:12,266 --> 00:24:14,433 of what the case might look like. - Sure. 542 00:24:14,633 --> 00:24:16,700 - and how that shifts, because - [laughs] 543 00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:18,300 l when I originally saw these people 544 00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:21,033 I said "you know, she took the doorbell ring, 545 00:24:21,033 --> 00:24:23,133 doorbell and the ring thing with her. 546 00:24:23,133 --> 00:24:24,333 - Mm-hmm. - Why?" 547 00:24:24,433 --> 00:24:26,633 Then there was with the washer and dryer 548 00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:27,700 she saw him taking it 549 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:29,800 and it was in the contract that it stayed. 550 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,100 But then when I got to know both of these people, Sarah, 551 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:35,066 they were both a little bit of hustlers. 552 00:24:35,066 --> 00:24:37,333 - Uh-huh. - Nobody told me up front 553 00:24:37,333 --> 00:24:40,033 that there was a back apartment that they rented. 554 00:24:40,033 --> 00:24:43,166 And I said, why was this guy being such a good guy? 555 00:24:43,166 --> 00:24:45,934 And he didn't say "well actually, I'm not that great of a guy 556 00:24:45,934 --> 00:24:48,133 I rent the back side" and I cover my expenses. 557 00:24:48,133 --> 00:24:50,767 I rent the back for $3,000 and it all covers his expenses. 558 00:24:50,767 --> 00:24:53,533 They actually, both of them, deserved each other a little bit. 559 00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:57,700 He didn't deserve another $6,000 in addition to the four. 560 00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:00,166 Because I didn't see that much in damage. 561 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,500 You looked at the pictures... 562 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,734 Yeah, I saw some of the photos and it looked like... 563 00:25:03,734 --> 00:25:06,000 Holes, you know, from pictures in the walls. 564 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,133 But not like he was describing in his answer. 565 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:10,800 Like punched holes in the wall and ripped up flooring. 566 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,367 - We didn't see any of that - [Judy] There was nothing. 567 00:25:13,367 --> 00:25:14,433 She made a lot of money. 568 00:25:14,433 --> 00:25:16,600 - He's doing just fine. - And he's doing just fine. 569 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:19,800 [Narrator] Are you a victim of a scam? 570 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,867 Go to JudyJustice.tv