You purchased some concert tickets and you didn't get them.
Correct. How did you get two tickets?
Oh, his name is Clint.
She didn't deal with Clint, she dealt with you.
Where is he now?
Huh? Oh, I don't know, I haven't speak with him.
He disappeared for a while.
- After that... - I think you're full of baloney.
This is Judy Justice.
Gigi Garcia is suing club promoter Hermann Pattein
for a refund on concert tickets.
Court come to order.
All rise.
Have a seat, please.
Hello Judge, case 2184, Garcia vs Pattein.
- Thank you. - You're welcome.
Miss Garcia, it is your claim that you purchased some concert tickets...
...through the defendant.
You paid him for them. - Correct.
- And you didn't get them. - Correct.
He has some story about you going on the wrong day.
OK, how do you know him?
Through a mutual friend.
How long do you know him?
Since September,
when this mutual friend actually introduced us
and we engaged in this kind of concert ticket purchase.
You're getting ahead of yourself.
You met him through a mutual friend how?
We went out to a club.
Who went out to a club?
Two of my girlfriends and LP.
- Went with him? - Yes.
- Then one of your girlfriends knew him. - Yes.
- You had not met him before? - No.
Is that correct? - Yes, it is correct.
And what do you do for a living?
I'm an artist.
What kind of an artist?
Produce and sing.
You do that for a living, for how long?
Uh-huh, for twelve years.
- You have family? - No, I'm by myself.
Who do you live with?
By myself and my dog.
- Yourself and your dog? - Yeah, my dog, yeah.
- What kind of a dog do you have? - I have a Jack Russell.
OK.
What do you know about securing tickets for concerts, music events?
What do you know about it?
What do you mean by that? I don't understand the question.
Well, I know that if you're in the music business--
- Let's say you want to go to a concert. - OK.
You personally want to go to a concert with a friend.
- OK. - How do you get the tickets?
Depends. You either purchase a ticket online,
if you want to pay the full price,
or sometimes people will have deals for tickets
because they have "in" and you get the ticket like that and it's cheaper.
OK, now,
I want you to tell me, Miss Garcia, exactly how you contacted the defendant
and told him that you wanted concert tickets
and what you wanted concert tickets to.
So, I text LP and I asked him, "Hey, I heard that you had concert tickets."
And he said he did, he's like, "Oh, I have two concert tickets."
Two concert tickets for what?
For the Bad Bunny concert for October 1st.
When I read your complaint and answer, I didn't know who Bad Bunny was.
So, I looked it up and was actually astounded to find out
that he is a very uber-popular rapper.
So, we were very, very excited. OK.
Did you tell the defendant what you wanted the tickets for?
Yes, I told him I was gonna celebrate my birthday,
and it was also gonna be a gift to my sister,
and then my girlfriend, whose birthday is also in October.
And when is your birthday?
October 8th.
And did you tell him what date you wanted the tickets for?
He indicated that he had tickets for October 1st.
And he had two tickets for October 1st?
Yeah, he first had two tickets,
and then later on said, "Oh, I have more tickets."
And that's how I acquired two additional tickets.
- So, first he said he had two tickets... - Mm-hmm.
- ...for October 1st. - Mm-hmm.
Now, when she called you, you said, "Oh, I have two tickets."
- That's what she says. - OK.
"I have two tickets." Where did you get those two tickets from?
From someone who's close to the artist.
- Give me the name. - Oh, his name is Clint.
Last name.
I don't know. I only see him in the club. I get tickets from him all the time.
Clint from what club?
- He promote everywhere, like, he goes... - No, you said to me
you got them from him at a club. I'm asking you what club.
- The name. - Actually, he had indicated...
...that those were box seat tickets...
...and it was the owner of the box seat tickets...
...that he was acquiring those tickets from.
I never said that. The two tickets?
- Yes. - The two?
- Yes. - I never said that.
No.
I want you to tell me, when she called you,
how come you had two tickets for the concert that she wanted to go to?
Were you going to go yourself?
The truth is, I always go to stuff like that
because I have access to those tickets.
Again, even if it's for sport, or basketball...
...I always have access to those types of tickets.
So, you have access to them. - Yes.
But she said that you told her you had two tickets.
I had access, if I request it, I know where to find it.
So when her friend told me that,
I said, "Yes, I can have access to ask for some tickets."
So maybe my language doesn't help. Well, that's true.
- Yeah, so, sorry for that. - Maybe...
Maybe it's problematic.
It could be a little bit of my hearing, but it's also a little bit of your accent.
Yes, I have an accent.
Sometimes people don't understand my accent because I was born in Brooklyn.
And they say to me, "What do you mean? We don't understand you."
I understand that, but you understand that sometimes people could not...
- They misunderstand, that's true. - Right, OK.
But she told you she wanted the tickets for October 1st.
There's no question she wanted to go on October 1st, because
she says in her complaint that she also booked a hotel room.
Mm-hmm. What hotel?
It was a Sheraton.
Where is the Sheraton located?
It's by LAX.
Where do you live?
Norwalk.
Norwalk is where?
Approximately fifteen miles east of LAX, off the 105.
OK, so you wanted to stay over for the concert.
Yes. So just one correction,
that my cousin was the one that paid for the stay.
And the hotel was taken for one night.
And was that the night of October 1st?
- Yes. - For October 1st,
the night of the concert.
So all the girls were gonna get together there that night,
have a little pre-celebration.
We were gonna Uber to the concert, we didn't want to drink and drive.
So, when we got to the concert, we would get another Uber
and then come back. We just wanted to be safe.
When did Mr. Pattein tell you that he got extra tickets?
- First, he said he had two. - Mm-hmm.
Did he tell you how much the two tickets were?
Yes, he indicated $150.
Each? - Mm-hmm.
How much did you pay for them, sir?
Basically... Not "basically."
- Huh? - Not "basically."
- Oh, sorry. - "How much" is the question.
It was one-fifty.
So, you are telling me that you didn't make any money.
No, because I was friends with her friend.
So, I was just trying to be nice for her birthday.
So, no, I wasn't making any money on that.
I would have charged more for those tickets
if I wanted to make money.
Of course. Well, so far... - Way more than that.
So far, then you got four more tickets.
- Correct. - But you never saw the tickets.
Correct. OK.
They were in L.A. partying with us on the second.
We all drank, we partied, we went to a club.
He felt bad for them and got bottle service and I...
No, you didn't. No, he didn't.
He got a bottle service, but it wasn't from him.
- I have it on video. - I have it on video.
Yeah, but that wasn't part of the deal. Don't speak.
Gigi Garcia claims club promoter Herman Pattein
owes her a refund for Bad Bunny concert tickets.
Did you ask the defendant to send you a copy of the tickets?
I did, on September 16th. Just a second. On what date?
September 16th.
Do you have an email to that effect?
- Yes. - I'd like to take a look at it.
Just so you know, there were two tour dates in Inglewood
at the SoFi Stadium for Bad Bunny on both September 30th
as well as October 1st.
Do you know how much he made, according to what I read yesterday?
In his touring for the whole of the year, I read that his tour concert...
...in 2022 was almost four hundred million dollars.
Is that about right?
Yeah it's the number one... Four hundred million dollars.
Pretty darn close.
That's what I read. I was astounded.
Since I know Frank Sinatra's no longer with us and...
...there isn't anybody else that I would pay that kind of money to go and see.
OK, so you're in the music business and you have email.
Huh? Is that right? You have an email?
You have an email? Yes, I have an email.
- You have an iPhone. - Yes.
She asked you if you could send her copies of the tickets.
- OK. - Why didn't you send them?
Because I didn't have it at that time. Just a second.
- Yes. - "Cause I didn't have them."
That was September 16th.
On what date did you get them and from whom?
I paid for the tickets on the Monday before the concert.
The guy came to pick up the money on Monday night.
When the guy came to pick up the money Monday night,
before the event, did he give you the tickets?
Not right away, because he never does that.
He always sends me that after, to my wallet on the...
Now I don't understand a word you're saying.
- The wallet. When I receive the ticket... - You gave him the money.
She sent you the money. How much money did she give you?
It was, like, a thousand. Seven...
How much money did you give him?
So, the full amount was $1,215.
That's not how much she gave me by the way.
Yeah. No, just a minute.
She's only suing for $715.
Yeah, so, there were two other young ladies that also purchased,
and I'm not including them in my case.
So, this is mine, just what I paid.
You paid $715. - Correct.
He got more money for the tickets, but you just paid him seven-fifteen.
Yeah. So, these were for six tickets.
Five tickets for $150, one ticket for $165.
OK, how did you communicate with the one person
who you gave the tickets to?
How did you communicate with that person?
I called him. Through the phone.
- Yeah. I called him. - Through the phone.
- So you have his name on your phone. - Yes.
Have you seen him since October?
Uh, he disappeared for a while.
After that... - Just a second.
He disappeared for a while after you say that you gave him the money.
I was in contact with them, and her friends.
I gave her the number, because I couldn't reach out to him.
Just a second, that sounds like a lot of who shot John.
You were able to reach out to him when you wanted to give him money, allegedly.
But then he disappeared. Basically...
Just a second, is he still disappeared?
No, he's not disappeared, but...
Well, where is he now?
Oh, I don't know, I haven't speak with him.
- Since when? - Since maybe, like, December?
- Why? - Because I have nothing to tell him.
- She sue me, so... - Just a second.
- Yeah. - What did you tell him about the tickets?
He said they made a mistake on the day.
It was for Friday, and they went on Thursday.
So all that to get mixed up, and I get blamed for that.
But that's not fair.
Absolutely, she didn't deal with Clint, she dealt with you.
Well, this is why I give them the number, so they can call him directly. I did that.
But the deal was not with him, it was...
You don't have to answer. - Sorry.
Actually, they did, they talked to him directly.
She doesn't want to talk to him directly.
She didn't deal with... No, but I wasn't even...
She didn't deal... I wasn't talking to her.
Her friend was talking to him directly. That's what I said.
Did she get money back from him directly?
I didn't get any money... Just a second.
Nah, I'm not gonna be blamed for something I didn't do.
And even, I give some half of the money back to her,
because I feel bad about the situation. Just a second.
When did you give her back half the money?
I think, two weeks after.
Just a second. Did he give you back any money?
- He gave us $500, out of eight... - Just a second.
I don't care. He gave you back $500 because he felt badly.
Then it was her birthday, and they were harassing me.
Did you give her the $500 directly?
No, because I don't... No no no.
- Who did you give the $500 to? - To her friend...
- ...because I wasn't talking to... - To a friend?
To her friend, because I wasn't talking to her.
Just a second.
You're friend only, you said, paid for two tickets.
- Mm-hmm. - Well, two tickets...
- ...at most could've been $300. - Correct.
- Did your friend give you back $200? - She did.
OK.
So, I am requesting the remainder, which is $715.
And that's what we texted him, on October 10th.
We asked him to pay the full amount.
- This is the text where... - I wanna see what he said to you.
No, he did not respond to me.
He did not? - Mnh-mnh.
Can I tell why?
- Absolutely. - Yeah, because her friend
was threatening me, sending crazy text messages,
when we used to be friends and it could have been resolved another way.
It went to her then sending me lawyer crazy email.
I'm not answering.
So I say, "do what you've gotta do," and that's it.
- If he had responded... - Just a second.
- So, if there was a mix-up... - Yeah?
...that was a mix-up that was not her mix-up
because she clearly made it her business
to book a room in order to go to the October 1st concert.
So that was clear, it wasn't just going to the concert,
it was going to be a whole evening.
What do you want, and who are you?
I'm a witness to it all.
He speaks better than me, so this is why I would like him to come,
so that it might be easier for me.
Your honor, my name is Emad. How are you?
If she said she booked a hotel for the first,
but they were in L.A. partying with us on the second,
because we all met up at his house.
We all drank, we partied, we went to a club.
He felt bad for them and got bottle service and I...
No, you didn't. No, he didn't.
He got a bottle service, but it wasn't from him.
I have it on video, because that's what we do.
Yeah, but that wasn't part of the deal. Don't speak.
- Don't speak. - Sorry.
We have on video of them all partying with us on the second.
So on the second, by this time you knew you weren't going to the concert.
Yeah, I was expecting my money that night.
- What? - I was expecting my money.
There was a mix-up? OK, now where's our money?
So, we met up, they told me, "Hey, you know what...
...LP feels really bad, it was a mistake."
I'm like, "OK cool, but where's my money?"
Because I gotta pay my cousin, my sister, I gotta pay my friends.
I have that responsibility.
They entrusted me with money, and therefore I had that responsibility.
They're not gonna come after him. OK.
The tickets were for Friday night, sir.
And you say you went there, on Friday night.
No, no, you're getting confused on that.
I wasn't going to the concert.
No, to give them the tickets, how are they supposed to get the tickets?
How do I know that, I have other stuff to do.
Just a second. Stop. I'm gonna use him as a translator.
Gigi Garcia is accusing club promoter Hermann Pattein
of purchasing Bad Bunny concert tickets for the wrong day.
Where is Clint?
Speak.
Where is Clint? I thought you were a witness to everything.
I don't even know the guy. I've met him when he was giving them the money.
- We were at his house for drinks... - Just a second.
OK, so let's slow down a second.
'Cause you said, "I'm a witness to everything...
- ...and I speak better than he does." - Yeah.
Sometimes. Sometimes.
- So, the Monday before the concert... - Correct.
- ...you were with Clint. - I was with LP.
I was with him, we were at his apartment.
Watching Monday Night Football. And Clint was there?
No, he called him, and then he asked me to come down with him.
We met, went downstairs.
- And? - And I never met the guy...
- ...and he gave him some money. - No, just a second.
- Yeah. - So, you were with him.
- Yeah. - When he went downstairs and met Clint.
- Correct. - OK.
And when he handed Clint the money, how much money did he hand him?
I couldn't tell you because I wasn't... ...that close.
I was next to him, but I was on my phone.
And I asked him after the fact, and he was like...
What did he...
Let's go back.
So now you're upstairs watching Monday night football.
- Yeah. - And does he get a call from Clint...
...or does he call Clint?
He was calling him earlier.
- OK, so he was calling Clint earlier. - Yeah.
And when he went down and gave him the money,
did Clint give him anything?
- No, he did not. - Well, then what was...
...the discussion that he had?
- From what I heard, was he... - Don't make it up as you go along.
Don't make it up, it's very bad, it's very bad if you make things up.
- No, no, no, I'm not making it up. - So you either heard it or you didn't.
He gave him the money and I guess it was for the tickets
because he was telling me earlier that he was getting somebody's tickets.
And I'm like, I've never met her before or her friends
until the night where we all went to the club because...
- ...I was at his house. - Yeah.
We were drinking, her friends came over and everything that was supposed to...
And it was at that time, was that the time that he gave them back $500?
No, I don't know about that.
When did you give them back five hundred?
I think two weeks after, approximately.
I can check if you want for the exact date.
But, I think two weeks after.
And, again, I did that out of my kindness.
I don't wanna give anything 'cause that's not my fault.
But, I'm like, I feel bad.
They were on me, you know what, here's something. It's a gesture.
That's what I can do.
And even that, I was even willing to work with them.
- And I told her friends... - Yeah I don't think...
- ...it was their mistake, by the way. - Huh?
I don't think it was their mistake.
They were girls going out to celebrate,
they'd planned a whole evening and day of going out to celebrate.
They got to the concert, you weren't there on the first, because it's your claim
that they got the date confused.
That they were supposed to go Friday night, the thirtieth.
That's what you say.
- You were there Friday night. - We were there.
Well, if the tickets were for Friday night, sir...
- Yeah. - ...which is what you claim.
- Yeah. - And you say you went there...
...on Friday night.
- Went where? - To the concert to give them the tickets.
No, no, you're getting confused on that.
I wasn't going to the concert.
No, to give them the tickets, because how are they supposed to get the tickets?
How do I know that? I have other stuff to do.
Just a second. How are they supposed... Hey!
Stop. I'm going to him as a translator.
Go ahead.
No, no, no. No, no, no.
You hadn't sent them the tickets on the day of the concert.
According to your answer, sir,
on the day of the concert, which was on September 30th,
which would have been what was on the tickets,
"I waited for Gigi and her friends, but they never showed up."
Pay attention to me.
So, if you went there on Friday, to give them the tickets.
- That's what you say. - I'm talking about my house.
I'm reading to you, what you swore to
and what you signed in an answer.
You say you were in a business for twelve years.
But I don't have people... people work for me.
I don't... listen to me, listen to me.
Then you should have shown them your answer, what you said in your...
- ...answer was... - OK, my bad, I must have forgot.
Not "my bad." "On the day of the concert...
...I waited for Gigi and her friends to come and get their tickets,
but they never showed up.
The next day, I finally got on the phone with Gigi."
Now, did she call you, or did you call her?
I called her friend in the morning, at maybe eight or nine o'clock
in the morning, there's a mistake, I called her friend.
OK, so you called her friend.
Now, if you got there and they weren't there,
you had a friend's... hey.
You had her friend's number, right?
- It's not that. - You said "I have"...
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is, I've just read you what you wrote...
I'm trying to explain to you, I wasn't at the concert, even on the Saturday.
- For the ticket... - How was she supposed to get the tickets?
She come to my house, and that's it.
OK, $715, judgement for the plaintiff. I think you're full of baloney.
This court is adjourned.
I thought that was really fair.
I mean, when you enter a verbal contract with someone,
you expect them to uphold their side of the deal.
If they don't, then they have to give you your money back.
That's her problem. Not mine.
And I give something, just out of my kindness, she should just take that.
I'd say I wasn't a bad person on that.
That same night, he had indicated he felt really bad, yadda yadda yadda.
And we thought, "Hey, it's legit, we're gonna get our money back that night."
And he's like, "Let's meet up at this club."
It was a restaurant, then club. And it was...
I wouldn't have been partying with somebody that just...
- ...screwed me out of tickets. - Exactly.
Doesn't make sense.
It's like, somebody screws you out of money,
you gonna go party with them? Highly doubtful.
It doesn't matter. That wasn't part of the deal.
The deal was concert tickets for this amount of money.
No concert tickets, I get my money back. Plain and simple.
It's over. For favors for friends, yeah.
So, we're having this discussion, you and I.
And I interpreted that sentence
as he waited for them at the concert to give them the tickets.
You point out that that sentence could also be interpreted,
"I waited at my house for them to come and pick up the tickets."
Either way, Sarah, the right thing to do is if you've got a thousand dollars...
- of somebody's money... - Mm-hmm.
...because there's no question that this guy took a vig for himself.
And if they don't come, and if your friend is a friend of hers,
then you call at five o'clock at night...
...and say, "You know I have your tickets here."
- Yeah. - "Where are you?"
He doesn't.
The next day, he calls his friend and says, "You got the dates mixed up."
- Yeah. - Instead of calling at four o'clock.
So, either way, to me it doesn't...
- ...make any difference. - I agree with your final ruling...
...if he was sitting on the thousand dollars...
...that he had and tickets that he knew were for the wrong day,
the friend deserved a call that day...
- ...or in the morning. - Or maybe he didn't have any tickets.
Or maybe he didn't have any tickets. I'm not disagreeing.
I just think that that one point you hung your hat on...
...about either being at the concert or being at home...
...was sort of a minuscule point if he didn't have the tickets at all.
Yeah, and I don't think he had the tickets at all.
- I agree. - If he did have the tickets,
one way or another, he would have called their mutual friend and said,
"You know I have these tickets here, they're a thousand dollars,
they're a thousand dollars worth of tickets."
It's a good excuse to say they...
- ...wanted to come on the wrong day. - Showed up on the wrong date.
- Yeah. - Yeah. Hustle.
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