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You rented the 38-foot obstacle course.
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It was returned damaged.
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Yes.
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We didn't rent from them.
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Just a second.
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We told her, "your dog ate
our obstacle."
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Do you have pictures
of our dog chewing it?
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I don't wanna hear you again!
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This is Judy Justice.
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Tabitha and Brandon Robinson
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{\an8}are suing their customers,
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{\an8}Aaron and Sandra Laeng,
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for property damage
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and loss of income.
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Court come to order. All rise!
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Have a seat everyone.
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Case 2152. Robinson versus Laeng.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome
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How long have you been in the business
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of renting party equipment?
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We've been in the business
for about two and half years.
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And when you started the business,
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you started the business by purchasing
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how many pieces of equipment?
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We purchased 3 used units.
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3 used?
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Yes, obstacle courses,
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and we rented them out
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and then we saved the money
and then progressed,
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uh, progressed, uh, renting them out
and getting more.
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Now, the jumper that you rented
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to the defendants...
Yes, ma'am.
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...was one that you brought used
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or one that you brought new?
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I brought it new.
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When?
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I brought it on 07/19/21.
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{\an8}I have the, uh, receipt for it.
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I'd like to see it, please.
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Okay, and what you rented
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from them was a 38-foot obstacle course.
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{\an8}We didn't rent from them.
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Who did?
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{\an8}Some friends of ours did.
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They used our property for their
daughter's sweet 16.
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They paid the Robinsons.
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They signed the rental agreement.
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We did not.
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Is that correct?
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Sandra is actually the one
who handed me the cash.
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Um...
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Did somebody sign
a rental agreement?
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Yes.
- Who was it?
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It's a lady. Her name is...
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Okay, so let me understand that
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this is a... let me frame it.
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You rented
this piece of equipment,
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- which is a 38-foot obstacle course...
- Yes, ma'am.
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...to someone whose name is--
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And according to your complaint,
it was returned damaged.
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Yes.
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You say it can't be repaired
although you tried to patch it.
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Right.
And you want the cost
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of a new obstacle course.
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And while you paid $4,500,
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{\an8}you want $9,000...
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{\an8}- Well, we have--
- ...because you claim...
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{\an8}I have a list of loss of rentals
because people--
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That's-- you're not entitled to that.
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Okay, more important--
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I want to know how you think
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if these people were not
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signatories to your rental agreement,
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why would you sue them?
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When we went there...
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May I see that, please, by the way
while she is telling me the story.
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This, uh, when we went there
to drop it off,
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we did all the--
I dealt completely with Sandra.
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They run a business on their property
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which is for, uh, parties.
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Um, she said they do cigar club parties,
they do sweet 16 parties
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on their property.
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Okay, got it.
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You do this as a business?
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So yes, we run...
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- The answer is yes.
- Yes.
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You, use your home property.
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Is it your home property that you use?
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Yes.
So you'll have a large
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enough piece of property that
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other people who want to make parties
for their children
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do them at your house?
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Yes.
So, you took physical custody
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of this?
No.
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Who did?
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The renters, the people...
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Not legal custody.
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We're not talking about legal custody.
You took physical custody
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and put it on your property.
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The people that signed
the original rental agreement
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were on the property at the time
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- that they dropped it off.
- I don't care.
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Was it on your property?
Yes, it was on our property.
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So that's a yes.
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{\an8}Yes.
So it was on your property,
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but used by somebody else,
and they were
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- just using your property.
- Yes.
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Is that correct?
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I had rented it out on Sunday,
so when I dropped it off
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I told Sandra that
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we would have to come at 6:30
in the morning to pick it up
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to clean it and deliver it the next day.
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She agreed to that. 'Cause normally
we don't leave it overnight if it's
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going out the next day,
'cause we needed
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to sterilize it. We got there
at seven in the morning.
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We came in and we were getting ready
to pick up the 38 ft obstacle.
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I noticed that the dogs had
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chewed-- and they're two dogs,
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{\an8}a boxer and another dog--
were still running around
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{\an8}and lifting their leg and urinating
on the bouncer.
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We told her, "Your dog ate
our obstacle."
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There are pieces of the vinyl
which I have pictures of--
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of it where your dogs just ate it.
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Pictures of our dogs chewing it?
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Just a second.
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I don't wanna hear you again!
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I tried to ignore you quietly.
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I figured you'd get the message.
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You don't shout out here.
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Go ahead.
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My husband said um,
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"Excuse me, miss, we have a problem.
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Your dogs have eaten our obstacle."
So then she went in
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to go and get her husband.
Her husband came out.
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He signed papers saying he was responsible
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for a loss of rentals and the damages
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or replacement of it. May...
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- May I see it, please?
- Yes.
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{\an8}And also he sent text messages
to our phone that same morning
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{\an8}apologizing and saying he would do
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everything to replace it plus a loss
of rentals that we were gonna lose.
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I'd like to see those texts
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and I would like to see his signature on
a piece of paper assuming responsibility.
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And then...
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Just a second.
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Here are the text messages.
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Oh, would you show this
to Mr. Laeng, please?
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Did you sign that, sir?
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Yes.
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Okay.
- I signed it under distress.
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Under distress?
Under distress.
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There's no such thing. You mean duress.
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Duress. She was...
Just a second.
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There's a difference
between distress...
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Duress.
Okay. At 7:29 am
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you said, "I, Aaron Laeng,
recognize and acknowledge
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that a jumper obstacle course has
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been damaged from a dog.
I will take care
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of the repairs and work with
the rental company
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and its owners to get this resolved ASAP."
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And then about 15 minutes later
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you wrote, "I'm so sorry again.
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Let me know when you drop it off, please."
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Okay, so you tried to drop it off
the next day.
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I was trying to drop it off the next day
to Albert, our repair guy that...
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Just a second. Just a...
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Answer my question.
It doesn't require a long answer.
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The next day you were trying to
get it resolved.
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Yes.
And you back and forth with him.
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Let me know etcetera, etcetera.
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And then you don't hear from him.
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No.
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Then it stopped.
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"I tried calling you.
I tried messaging you
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to get this resolved."
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Yes.
Okay. Well, Mr. Laeng,
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there's no question you acknowledged
the damage and you agreed to pay for it.
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That's what you have.
Can I have that back?
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You acknowledged in here
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that you would take
full responsibility for this.
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What's your defense?
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My defense is when they arrived
on the property to pick up
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their jumper that was
left unaccounted for--
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No, no no. When they arrived...
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When they arrived and they
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announced to us that there was
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damage to their obstacle course.
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Well, they came to you first.
- Yes. Correct.
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Is that... don't speak.
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They came to you first?
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Yes.
You came outside?
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Yes.
Okay, and when you came outside,
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you had a conversation with whom?
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I believe... Ms. Robinson.
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With Mrs. Robinson?
Yes.
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Okay. And what did
you say to her
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and what did she say to you?
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{\an8}She just went hysterically,
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{\an8}like upset that the jumper was damaged,
and that's
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when I went inside to get my husband.
Just a second.
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What did she say?
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She just started crying. She...
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Started to cry.
- Yeah.
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She's like, your dogs-- your dogs damaged
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my obstacle course.
Just a second. So she was crying?
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Yes.
And did you have any issue
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when she said to you, your dogs damaged my
obstacle course?
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Did you see what was bitten off
from the obstacle course?
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I...
That's either a yes or a no.
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Yes.
The answer is yes.
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What kind of dogs do you have?
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A german shepherd and a boxer.
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And where had you stored
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this unit overnight?
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It was left outside.
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In the backyard?
In the front yard?
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We live on a huge ranch.
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So it's a two-and-a-half-acre parcel,
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and it's been known
that our neighbor dogs always...
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I don't want to hear neighbor dogs!
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I don't want to hear coyotes!
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I don't want to hear bears!
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- My witness, he is the repair guy...
- Just a second.
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Stand up sir.
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I don't need an explanation of this.
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I'm not going into
the repair jumper business.
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Thankfully, I have a job
and I'm too old to learn anything new.
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And later today...
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You have the phone?
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I do.
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To this day I am still paying for the data
for that phone.
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That's a lie.
Just a second.
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I literally...
- Just a sec.
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Cut off your data
and let her get her own plan.
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Tabitha and Brandon Robinson
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{\an8}claim their customers,
Aaron and Sandra Laeng,
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refuse to pay the costs of repair
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after damaging their jumper house.
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Okay. Now I'm gonna get
back to you.
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So now your wife comes in to get you,
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and you went outside.
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Yes.
And?
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I go outside.
- Who else is there?
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Just my wife and I.
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So just the two of you?
- Just the two of us were home.
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And they were there?
- They were there.
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Both of them?
- Yes.
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Okay.
- And their daughter.
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Okay, and?
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I go outside. Uh, Mrs. Robinson is
completely hysterical,
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crying just...
Crying?
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...out of control in hysterics.
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Okay.
- Her husband's yelling,
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- screaming for...
- So tell me. So I want you to tell me
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exactly... no...
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I want you to tell me exactly.
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She's crying, and he starts yelling. Yes.
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Well you came out and said what
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to them when you came out?
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And then I want to hear
exactly what was said.
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{\an8}I asked to see the damage to--
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{\an8}for them to show me what was going on,
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{\an8}what had happened.
They showed me the damage.
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We both took pictures.
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Again, they...
266
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No. They both-- you both took...
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Just a second.
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So he composed himself long enough
to take pictures.
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Yes.
And you were composed
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- enough to take pictures?
- Yes, I was.
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Which you have.
- Yes.
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And then what happened?
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- Throughout their screaming...
- No, no! I want you to tell me.
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- I am telling you.
- Now, you're taking pictures--
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you're taking pictures and?
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Brandon is on the phone with
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their repair guy of some sort. Um...
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Okay, so he is on the phone.
He's composed enough to be on the phone.
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Now, before he got
on the phone with his repair guy,
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did you discuss with him
your responsibility
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to take care of the damage?
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I told him--
That's either yes
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- or a no.
- Yes.
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Yes.
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So once you said, "I'll take
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care of the damage," he got on the phone
with his repair guy.
287
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Before I agreed to take care
of the damages.
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Before we discussed that,
he was already on the phone.
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Then he got off the phone,
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but you signed this the same day.
So I want to know
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when in this conversation did you
sign this? You need something to lean on.
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Somebody has to give you a piece of paper.
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Somebody has to get a pen.
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{\an8}I did not fill out that piece of paper.
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You don't have to.
- Tabitha's the one
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{\an8}that filled out the piece of
paper in their vehicle.
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Who did?
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Ms. Robinson. She's the one that
filled it out in her vehicle.
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Okay, so just a second.
300
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So she got in her vehicle.
Crying in hysterics.
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I don't care.
302
00:11:41,934 --> 00:11:44,600
She got in her vehicle,
and where was her husband?
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Outside loading the bouncer.
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So, he was outside. Yes.
305
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She went inside her vehicle,
and he was busy.
306
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Yes.
And you live in a house?
307
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Yes.
And you felt pressured?
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Yes.
You felt as if you were being...
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- extorted?
- Bullied. Yes.
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Did you go inside to call the police?
311
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No, I did not. I should have.
Yeah, but you didn't.
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I did not.
313
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You went over to the truck
where she was hysterical.
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She wrote out this document, right?
315
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Yes.
And you signed it.
316
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- Yes, I did.
- There we go.
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Make my life very easy.
318
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Did your repair guy try to
fix the bouncer?
319
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{\an8}I do have a receipt
where we did have it--
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{\an8}try to get it temporarily patched,
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where we paid $600
just to make sure we could
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still rent it out. So that was paid for.
323
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This is my repair man.
Um, he is my witness.
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And then also I do
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have a, um, paper with an estimate
of what it would
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be to repair the obstacle.
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May I see it, please?
328
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After he did this job,
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which he did on October 4th.
330
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From the 3rd to the 4th.
331
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Did you rent it out?
332
00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:51,734
No. We tried to but this--
333
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I have the pictures that I brought of
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what happens when the air flows through.
335
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The patches won't stay.
You have to go up
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inside the bouncer and actually
337
00:12:58,867 --> 00:13:02,934
put a patch on the inside and the outside,
and it would cost more money.
338
00:13:02,934 --> 00:13:04,200
My witness can...
339
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he is the repair guy.
Just a second.
340
00:13:05,734 --> 00:13:09,433
What you're telling me is
that your witness
341
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{\an8}prepared this estimate
of what it would cost
342
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- to repair the jumper?
- Yes.
343
00:13:15,367 --> 00:13:16,633
Stand up, sir.
344
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I don't need an explanation of this.
I'm going into the repair jumper business.
345
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Thankfully, I have a job
346
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and I'm too old to learn anything new.
347
00:13:25,233 --> 00:13:28,734
Did you prepare this estimate
to fix the jumper?
348
00:13:28,734 --> 00:13:31,700
{\an8}Yes, ma'am. That is the full estimate
to repair it properly.
349
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To do it properly, okay.
- Yes.
350
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The first one was a temporary
- Shush.
351
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I'll-- listen.
352
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I got it. I'm a fast learn.
And anybody
353
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who watches this program
better learn to think fast too,
354
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,633
'cause I have a lot of things to do today.
355
00:13:43,633 --> 00:13:44,834
So, you prepared this.
356
00:13:44,967 --> 00:13:49,266
So for $2,500
in addition to the $600.
357
00:13:49,367 --> 00:13:51,100
- Did they pay you the $600?
- Yes.
358
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So in addition to the $600-- so in total,
$3,100 would fix the jumper.
359
00:13:57,633 --> 00:13:58,934
Correct.
Great.
360
00:13:58,934 --> 00:14:01,400
That's what you agreed to pay, sir.
361
00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,834
You agreed to do the repairs
on the jumper.
362
00:14:04,133 --> 00:14:05,100
Now, you want a new jumper.
363
00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,333
You're not going to get a new jumper.
364
00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:08,500
You're not gonna get damages
for lost income.
365
00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:10,033
He's gonna fix the jumper.
366
00:14:10,033 --> 00:14:11,333
How long is it going to take you?
367
00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:13,066
Roughly about two days.
368
00:14:13,266 --> 00:14:15,367
Two to three...
Two days! Piece of cake.
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$3,100.
370
00:14:16,767 --> 00:14:18,767
Judgment for the plaintiff. We're done.
371
00:14:18,767 --> 00:14:20,200
This court is adjourned.
372
00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,367
I don't owe them anything.
I didn't rent the bouncer.
373
00:14:22,367 --> 00:14:24,767
I'm just happy that we're going to have
our bouncer repaired.
374
00:14:24,767 --> 00:14:26,734
- Because they're money hungry.
- They were looking for a pay day.
375
00:14:26,734 --> 00:14:29,266
The truth always comes out,
and what's right is what's right.
376
00:14:30,233 --> 00:14:32,066
So initially after
reading the papers,
377
00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:35,433
I thought the plaintiffs--
while perfectly matched in their tops--
378
00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:37,100
were suing the wrong people.
379
00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:41,033
Because these people didn't sign
the rental agreement. So any damage,
380
00:14:41,166 --> 00:14:43,100
or any agreement to pay damage--
381
00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,033
I was with you from the beginning that
these are the wrong people.
382
00:14:46,133 --> 00:14:48,500
It came out that they had a little
bit more involvement--
383
00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:50,367
the defendant-- then they wanted...
They agreed--
384
00:14:50,367 --> 00:14:52,233
- They agreed to pay.
- Exactly.
385
00:14:52,233 --> 00:14:54,100
He knew he did the wrong thing.
He probably saw
386
00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:56,066
his dogs destroy the jumper
387
00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,900
from the kitchen window and felt bad
and knew that it was his responsibility.
388
00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:01,233
I don't think they deserve
389
00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:03,500
- $9,000 for a brand-new jumper.
- No.
390
00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:04,734
But they deserved to get it fixed
391
00:15:04,734 --> 00:15:06,633
- so they can keep making money off it.
- Right.
392
00:15:06,734 --> 00:15:09,433
Case 2178. Gladd versus Sauber.
393
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All parties please come forward.
394
00:15:11,133 --> 00:15:12,767
Serenity Gladd
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00:15:12,767 --> 00:15:16,333
is suing her ex-girlfriend,
Jennifer Sauber,
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00:15:16,333 --> 00:15:18,133
for unpaid loans.
397
00:15:18,266 --> 00:15:23,500
Miss Gladd, if my memory is correct,
you are sueing the defendant
398
00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:27,734
for a series of small loans
that you claim
399
00:15:27,734 --> 00:15:29,266
she owes you for.
400
00:15:29,266 --> 00:15:31,934
And those loans were created,
according to you,
401
00:15:31,934 --> 00:15:34,567
during the period of time that you
and the defendant
402
00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,734
were either involved in a relationship
403
00:15:36,900 --> 00:15:38,166
and/or engaged.
404
00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:40,367
Yes.
How long do you know each other?
405
00:15:40,367 --> 00:15:42,567
We've known each since May of 2021.
406
00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:43,767
And there came a time
407
00:15:43,767 --> 00:15:48,300
when the defendant came to live with you
or you went to live with the defendant?
408
00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:50,066
I moved to Colorado to live with her.
409
00:15:50,233 --> 00:15:51,133
And when was that?
410
00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,200
That was in May 2022.
411
00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:56,567
When you moved in with her
into Colorado. Were you working?
412
00:15:56,567 --> 00:15:57,767
Not at the time, no.
413
00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:00,066
What kind of work did you do in Colorado?
414
00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:01,767
Um, I was unemployed.
415
00:16:01,867 --> 00:16:02,900
How did you support yourself?
416
00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:06,867
{\an8}A friend of the family helped me out
due to my disabilities.
417
00:16:06,867 --> 00:16:08,033
Who pays your rent?
418
00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:09,400
The friend of the family.
419
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,166
Do you own a car?
- I did.
420
00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:12,600
Do you now?
- No.
421
00:16:12,967 --> 00:16:14,133
Are you working now?
422
00:16:14,533 --> 00:16:15,934
Um, not at the moment, no.
423
00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,133
Prior to that?
424
00:16:17,333 --> 00:16:18,734
Um, I was out in Colorado.
425
00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,600
Working.
- Yes.
426
00:16:20,867 --> 00:16:21,767
For whom?
427
00:16:21,867 --> 00:16:24,400
Um, it was a local coffee shop. Okay.
428
00:16:24,667 --> 00:16:27,100
Now, you're living together,
you are a couple, at some point
429
00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:28,500
{\an8}you became engaged.
430
00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,000
{\an8}Then something happened. What happened
is probably irrelevant.
431
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000
What I want you to tell me is
from the point that you moved in,
432
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,333
{\an8}what loans do you claim
you made to her?
433
00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,100
{\an8}I had paid part of a vet bill.
434
00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:43,000
When was that?
435
00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,767
That was
at the end of May.
436
00:16:45,867 --> 00:16:47,567
I have the invoices here.
437
00:16:47,567 --> 00:16:48,967
And what makes that a loan?
438
00:16:49,066 --> 00:16:51,333
Um, because at the time
she didn't have money
439
00:16:51,333 --> 00:16:53,767
and she had agreed to pay me back
when she had gotten a job.
440
00:16:53,767 --> 00:16:55,333
Did you agree to pay her back
441
00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:57,000
for this vet bill when got a job?
442
00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,767
{\an8}No, ma'am. The friend of the family was
443
00:16:58,767 --> 00:17:01,400
{\an8}gonna pay for it all,
but she insisted on paying it.
444
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,333
Tell me about that.
445
00:17:02,333 --> 00:17:05,667
Um, so in the vet office, I was messaging
the friend of the family.
446
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,934
Um, and he was willing to pay it in full.
447
00:17:07,934 --> 00:17:11,967
Um, and she was like, "No, no.
I'm going to pay for it.
448
00:17:12,066 --> 00:17:13,433
You need to quit asking him for money."
449
00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:16,066
I was like, "He is the person that
supports me right now.
450
00:17:16,166 --> 00:17:17,500
We do not have the money.
451
00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,967
So he is going to help us."
452
00:17:18,967 --> 00:17:22,767
She said that she would pay for
half of it, I believe it was.
453
00:17:22,767 --> 00:17:24,333
For half?
For half.
454
00:17:24,433 --> 00:17:26,500
- Okay.
- So, it was like $100.
455
00:17:27,266 --> 00:17:28,333
How much was it?
456
00:17:28,934 --> 00:17:30,066
$170.
457
00:17:30,433 --> 00:17:31,633
Let's keep moving on.
458
00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:36,033
I've been paying my data on my phone
459
00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:37,800
and she keeps turning it off.
Just a sec.
460
00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,667
- I can't help you with that.
- I understand.
461
00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:42,400
You know I'm not one of those--
what do they call them-- geniuses.
462
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,900
Genius Bar
- Yeah, I'm not a genius person.
463
00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:46,233
Not with phones anyways.
464
00:17:57,433 --> 00:17:59,700
Serenity Gladd claims
465
00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:02,333
{\an8}her ex-girlfriend,
Jennifer Sauber,
466
00:18:02,333 --> 00:18:04,834
refuses to pay back loans given to her
467
00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:06,400
during their engagement.
468
00:18:06,533 --> 00:18:08,900
Now, what other loans do you think
she owes you for?
469
00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,400
I had brought her tires for her car.
470
00:18:11,767 --> 00:18:13,400
When?
- That was on...
471
00:18:13,567 --> 00:18:15,834
June 17th, I believe.
472
00:18:15,834 --> 00:18:17,266
Were you using the car?
473
00:18:17,567 --> 00:18:19,333
I was using the car. Okay.
474
00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,367
For how long were
you using the car?
475
00:18:21,367 --> 00:18:23,433
About... two months.
476
00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:25,667
And what were you using the car for?
477
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,800
Getting to work.
478
00:18:26,934 --> 00:18:29,300
So, at that point, it was just as much
479
00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:31,300
your vehicle as it was hers,
'cause she wasn't working.
480
00:18:31,633 --> 00:18:33,667
- So you took the car to work?
- Yes.
481
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,133
And the car needed tires?
Yes.
482
00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:37,066
And?
483
00:18:37,066 --> 00:18:40,667
{\an8}Um, I ended up paying for them
just for safety reasons,
484
00:18:40,667 --> 00:18:41,834
given that...
485
00:18:41,967 --> 00:18:44,200
Well, it was your safety.
You were driving it.
486
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,667
- Right?
- That's true. Yes.
487
00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:46,834
Let's move on.
488
00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:48,834
Next loan.
489
00:18:48,934 --> 00:18:52,700
Um, on top of that, I had to pay
for a vet insurance for her dog.
490
00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:53,900
She didn't have to.
491
00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:55,300
Just a second.
- Sorry.
492
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,767
And then even after I had left Colorado,
493
00:18:57,767 --> 00:18:59,734
she asked me to leave her dog on the plan
494
00:18:59,734 --> 00:19:01,700
- and just...
- You have your own animals?
495
00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:03,333
No.
No. So...
496
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,600
after you left Colorado when you were
no longer a couple,
497
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,400
did you request that she continue
498
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,934
to pay for the vet insurance?
499
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,400
That's either a yes or no.
500
00:19:11,533 --> 00:19:12,633
I don't remember.
501
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,467
Well, she says you did.
502
00:19:14,467 --> 00:19:18,033
How many months did you pay
after you left Colorado? Show me.
503
00:19:18,033 --> 00:19:19,233
After you left her,
504
00:19:19,233 --> 00:19:22,100
you were no longer a couple.
How many months did you pay?
505
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,266
I had ended up paying...
506
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,600
Just the months?
507
00:19:26,033 --> 00:19:26,967
Two months.
508
00:19:26,967 --> 00:19:28,767
And how much for those two months?
509
00:19:28,767 --> 00:19:30,333
$71.46.
510
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,433
What's next?
511
00:19:31,533 --> 00:19:33,133
After that, the biggest one
512
00:19:33,133 --> 00:19:35,233
is the phone that she has.
513
00:19:35,567 --> 00:19:37,667
Tell me when you got the phone.
514
00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:40,266
When she got a new phone, because I assume
she had a phone.
515
00:19:40,367 --> 00:19:41,700
- Is that right?
- I actually had
516
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,133
{\an8}just brought a brand-new phone
517
00:19:43,233 --> 00:19:45,166
{\an8}and I insisted I didn't need a new one.
518
00:19:45,166 --> 00:19:46,934
What kind of phone did you buy?
519
00:19:46,934 --> 00:19:48,600
Uh, iPhone 11 mini.
520
00:19:48,734 --> 00:19:50,433
And?
Um, I got the phone
521
00:19:50,433 --> 00:19:52,400
and I have a hard time seeing
522
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,800
and I didn't have glasses.
523
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,533
And I was like, "It would be nice to have
a larger phone."
524
00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:58,066
We actually originally went to get us
525
00:19:58,066 --> 00:20:00,467
on the same plan. I was gonna keep
my same phone, but I was looking at
526
00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:03,266
the phone and she was like,
"Let's both just get new phones."
527
00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:04,767
I was like, "That's not a good idea."
528
00:20:04,767 --> 00:20:06,934
She was like, "Let's just get them.
It's fine."
529
00:20:06,934 --> 00:20:09,700
So I traded in my old phone
for about $400,
530
00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:12,867
and we got the phone
and the agreement was
531
00:20:12,867 --> 00:20:16,266
since I traded my old phone, I still had
to pay off the old phone.
532
00:20:16,266 --> 00:20:20,000
'Cause I just got it. So the agreement
was I pay off my old phone,
533
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,500
and to keep the service on
I would pay for my service and my data.
534
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,133
And she would pay off the phone itself.
535
00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:27,667
That was our original agreement.
536
00:20:27,667 --> 00:20:30,233
Then a few weeks later she's like,
"I never said that."
537
00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:33,433
Okay. How much did you end up
paying for her phone?
538
00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:38,066
As of currently, there's $575
paid on her phone.
539
00:20:38,066 --> 00:20:40,600
- Do you still have that phone?
- I do.
540
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,066
Can I see that there's 575
dollars left on her phone?
541
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,533
Not because you got two
when you got new phones.
542
00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:49,934
- So just hers.
- I have this.
543
00:20:50,233 --> 00:20:53,367
Is that for one phone or two?
- That is for one phone. Yes.
544
00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:01,433
Okay, could you show this to
the defendant, Kevin, please.
545
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,900
And you have the phone?
- I do.
546
00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:04,934
And you're not paying for it?
547
00:21:04,934 --> 00:21:06,700
I'm paying for the service.
548
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,734
- For what we agreed on.
- Service. I'm not talking about service.
549
00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:11,467
- That receipt is for one phone.
- Yes.
550
00:21:11,467 --> 00:21:13,900
It says your phone is
a little over $1,000.
551
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,533
- Yes.
- What was put down on the phone
552
00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:17,233
was almost $400.
553
00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:22,567
There were some payments made, and what's
still due in owing on the phone is $514.
554
00:21:22,567 --> 00:21:24,000
- That's what it says.
- Yes, ma'am.
555
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,100
Okay, great.
And you have the phone?
556
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:27,600
I do. Great.
557
00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:33,200
So $71.46 and $514 is $585.
Anything else?
558
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,834
To this day I am still paying
559
00:21:34,834 --> 00:21:37,100
- for the data for that phone.
- That's a lie.
560
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,166
Just a second.
561
00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:40,166
I literally...
- Just a sec.
562
00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:42,033
Cut her off your data.
Let her get her own plan.
563
00:21:42,033 --> 00:21:44,667
She'll go in to get her own plan.
Right now what's due in owing
564
00:21:44,667 --> 00:21:46,900
on the phone is $514.
565
00:21:47,033 --> 00:21:48,333
- Is that right?
- Yes.
566
00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:50,367
Okay.
- I've been paying my data on my phone
567
00:21:50,367 --> 00:21:52,066
and she keeps turning it off.
568
00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:55,133
Just a sec. I suggest you get a new plan.
You have your phone--
569
00:21:55,133 --> 00:21:56,400
- get another plan.
- I've been trying to
570
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,433
but she keeps--
571
00:21:57,433 --> 00:21:58,600
I can't help you with that.
572
00:21:58,700 --> 00:21:59,867
I understand.
You know,
573
00:21:59,867 --> 00:22:02,533
I'm not one of those-- what do they call
them-- geniuses.
574
00:22:02,533 --> 00:22:05,266
Genius Bar.
- Yeah, I'm not a genius person.
575
00:22:05,266 --> 00:22:06,734
Not with phones anyways.
576
00:22:06,834 --> 00:22:11,133
Okay. $71.46 and $514.
577
00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:15,533
My math is almost correct. It's $585.46.
578
00:22:15,533 --> 00:22:16,934
That's what she owes you.
579
00:22:16,934 --> 00:22:18,233
- 400 of that is for...
- Judgment for the plaintiff.
580
00:22:18,233 --> 00:22:19,633
- ...my old phone
- We're finished.
581
00:22:19,633 --> 00:22:20,834
Judgment for the plaintiff.
582
00:22:20,934 --> 00:22:23,633
That's what she owes.
That's what she owes on you.
583
00:22:23,734 --> 00:22:24,600
We're done.
584
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,266
This court is adjourned.
585
00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:27,333
I'm okay with it.
586
00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:29,066
I do think it was a very fair hearing.
587
00:22:29,066 --> 00:22:30,600
I'm okay with it because...
588
00:22:30,767 --> 00:22:33,734
I, you know, just want things to be
alright between us.
589
00:22:33,734 --> 00:22:35,834
'Cause she's still my best friend,
and I still love her.
590
00:22:35,834 --> 00:22:37,800
I mean, I feel the same way.
You know, I do--
591
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,667
I do love her. She's my best friend.
592
00:22:39,767 --> 00:22:41,166
I just-- same exact thing.
593
00:22:41,166 --> 00:22:42,433
I just hope things smooth over.
594
00:22:43,233 --> 00:22:45,734
So, I think
naturally when you're engaged to be
595
00:22:45,734 --> 00:22:47,100
married to someone or when you're married
596
00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:50,200
or even in a very serious relationship
for a year,
597
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,867
you don't keep a laundry list
of expenses. I took you to
598
00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:55,500
dinner this night for our anniversary.
Here's your half.
599
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,500
We went on vacation. Here's your half.
600
00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,333
So it makes it that much more important
601
00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:01,367
when you're in a serious
relationship like that,
602
00:23:01,367 --> 00:23:03,967
because in the eyes of the law
those things are sort of a wash
603
00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:04,867
in the relationship.
604
00:23:04,867 --> 00:23:08,633
So if you believe that something is really
a loan that you both decided as partners--
605
00:23:08,633 --> 00:23:09,800
I know we're together.
606
00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:13,166
I know we do things together that we both
cover the expenses and pay for.
607
00:23:13,166 --> 00:23:16,934
But this $1,000 phone is outside the scope
of that relationship.
608
00:23:17,066 --> 00:23:19,367
Let's just write something down
so that we'll remember
609
00:23:19,367 --> 00:23:21,467
that although we're together,
this was a loan.
610
00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:23,633
It makes it all that much
more important because...
611
00:23:23,767 --> 00:23:25,066
- And simple!
- And simple.
612
00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:27,934
Because otherwise, the law is going to
look at your relationship first
613
00:23:28,066 --> 00:23:31,200
and determine
is it one of those washed-in-ers,
614
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,233
or is it something that was legitimate?
615
00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:36,934
So it would just make it a lot simpler,
and if things don't work out in the end,
616
00:23:36,934 --> 00:23:38,400
easier for you to get your money back.
617
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,233
I think you're right.
Thank you.
618
00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:45,467
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