1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:04,166 You rented the 38-foot obstacle course. 2 00:00:04,166 --> 00:00:06,133 It was returned damaged. 3 00:00:06,133 --> 00:00:07,033 Yes. 4 00:00:07,033 --> 00:00:08,300 We didn't rent from them. 5 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:09,200 Just a second. 6 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,133 We told her, "your dog ate our obstacle." 7 00:00:12,133 --> 00:00:13,767 Do you have pictures of our dog chewing it? 8 00:00:13,767 --> 00:00:15,100 I don't wanna hear you again! 9 00:00:15,467 --> 00:00:18,233 [Narrator] This is Judy Justice. 10 00:00:34,166 --> 00:00:36,734 {\an8}[Narrator] Tabitha and Brandon Robinson 11 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:38,600 {\an8}are suing their customers, 12 00:00:38,734 --> 00:00:40,467 {\an8}Aaron and Sandra Laeng, 13 00:00:40,467 --> 00:00:41,767 for property damage 14 00:00:41,767 --> 00:00:43,200 and loss of income. 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,834 [Kevin] Court come to order. All rise! 16 00:00:46,967 --> 00:00:47,967 Have a seat everyone. 17 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:52,633 Case 2152. Robinson versus Laeng. 18 00:00:52,633 --> 00:00:53,800 - Thank you. - You're welcome 19 00:00:55,734 --> 00:00:57,734 How long have you been in the business 20 00:00:57,734 --> 00:01:00,300 of renting party equipment? 21 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,266 We've been in the business for about two and half years. 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,133 And when you started the business, 23 00:01:04,233 --> 00:01:06,633 you started the business by purchasing 24 00:01:06,633 --> 00:01:08,567 how many pieces of equipment? 25 00:01:08,667 --> 00:01:10,867 We purchased 3 used units. 26 00:01:10,967 --> 00:01:12,700 [Judy] 3 used? 27 00:01:12,834 --> 00:01:14,133 Yes, obstacle courses, 28 00:01:14,133 --> 00:01:15,900 and we rented them out 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,800 and then we saved the money and then progressed, 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,600 uh, progressed, uh, renting them out and getting more. 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,033 [Judy] Now, the jumper that you rented 32 00:01:25,033 --> 00:01:26,900 - to the defendants... - [Tabitha] Yes, ma'am. 33 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:29,133 [Judy] ...was one that you brought used 34 00:01:29,133 --> 00:01:30,533 or one that you brought new? 35 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:31,633 I brought it new. 36 00:01:31,633 --> 00:01:32,567 [Judy] When? 37 00:01:32,667 --> 00:01:34,834 {\an8}[Tabitha] I brought it on 07/19/21. 38 00:01:34,967 --> 00:01:36,800 {\an8}I have the, uh, receipt for it. 39 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,600 {\an8}[Judy] I'd like to see it, please. 40 00:01:44,033 --> 00:01:45,967 [Judy] Okay, and what you rented 41 00:01:45,967 --> 00:01:48,834 from them was a 38-foot obstacle course. 42 00:01:48,834 --> 00:01:50,433 {\an8}We didn't rent from them. 43 00:01:50,533 --> 00:01:51,400 {\an8}[Judy] Who did? 44 00:01:51,533 --> 00:01:52,834 {\an8}Some friends of ours did. 45 00:01:52,834 --> 00:01:56,100 They used our property for their daughter's sweet 16. 46 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,233 They paid the Robinsons. 47 00:01:58,500 --> 00:01:59,934 They signed the rental agreement. 48 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,467 We did not. 49 00:02:01,467 --> 00:02:02,700 [Judy] Is that correct? 50 00:02:02,967 --> 00:02:05,767 Sandra is actually the one who handed me the cash. 51 00:02:05,767 --> 00:02:06,734 Um... 52 00:02:07,066 --> 00:02:08,934 [Judy] Did somebody sign a rental agreement? 53 00:02:08,934 --> 00:02:10,700 - [Tabitha] Yes. - Who was it? 54 00:02:11,033 --> 00:02:13,233 [Tabitha] It's a lady. Her name is... 55 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:15,633 [Judy] Okay, so let me understand that 56 00:02:15,633 --> 00:02:18,133 this is a... let me frame it. 57 00:02:18,133 --> 00:02:21,333 You rented this piece of equipment, 58 00:02:21,333 --> 00:02:23,900 - which is a 38-foot obstacle course... - Yes, ma'am. 59 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:25,667 ...to someone whose name is-- 60 00:02:26,133 --> 00:02:29,233 And according to your complaint, it was returned damaged. 61 00:02:29,233 --> 00:02:30,133 Yes. 62 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:33,667 [Judy] You say it can't be repaired although you tried to patch it. 63 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,834 - Right. - [Judy] And you want the cost 64 00:02:35,834 --> 00:02:37,934 of a new obstacle course. 65 00:02:38,033 --> 00:02:41,133 And while you paid $4,500, 66 00:02:41,233 --> 00:02:43,200 {\an8}you want $9,000... 67 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,433 {\an8}- Well, we have-- - ...because you claim... 68 00:02:44,433 --> 00:02:46,266 {\an8}I have a list of loss of rentals because people-- 69 00:02:46,266 --> 00:02:47,967 That's-- you're not entitled to that. 70 00:02:47,967 --> 00:02:49,867 [Judy] Okay, more important-- 71 00:02:50,066 --> 00:02:52,100 I want to know how you think 72 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:54,100 if these people were not 73 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:56,200 signatories to your rental agreement, 74 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,734 why would you sue them? 75 00:02:57,834 --> 00:02:59,166 When we went there... 76 00:02:59,166 --> 00:03:02,667 May I see that, please, by the way while she is telling me the story. 77 00:03:02,834 --> 00:03:03,934 [shuffling papers] 78 00:03:04,834 --> 00:03:06,900 This, uh, when we went there to drop it off, 79 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:10,000 we did all the-- I dealt completely with Sandra. 80 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,767 They run a business on their property 81 00:03:12,767 --> 00:03:14,567 which is for, uh, parties. 82 00:03:14,567 --> 00:03:18,567 Um, she said they do cigar club parties, they do sweet 16 parties 83 00:03:18,567 --> 00:03:19,567 on their property. 84 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:20,600 [Judy] Okay, got it. 85 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,300 You do this as a business? 86 00:03:22,467 --> 00:03:23,800 So yes, we run... 87 00:03:24,834 --> 00:03:26,133 - The answer is yes. - Yes. 88 00:03:26,467 --> 00:03:28,567 You, use your home property. 89 00:03:28,567 --> 00:03:30,567 Is it your home property that you use? 90 00:03:30,767 --> 00:03:32,633 - Yes. - [Judy] So you'll have a large 91 00:03:32,633 --> 00:03:34,533 enough piece of property that 92 00:03:34,533 --> 00:03:37,567 other people who want to make parties for their children 93 00:03:37,567 --> 00:03:38,867 do them at your house? 94 00:03:38,867 --> 00:03:42,600 - Yes. - [Judy] So, you took physical custody 95 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,166 - of this? - [Aaron] No. 96 00:03:44,533 --> 00:03:45,367 Who did? 97 00:03:45,467 --> 00:03:48,934 - The renters, the people... - [Judy] No, no. It's physical custody. 98 00:03:49,133 --> 00:03:50,400 Not legal custody. 99 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,433 We're not talking about legal custody. You took physical custody 100 00:03:53,433 --> 00:03:55,000 and put it on your property. 101 00:03:55,266 --> 00:03:57,767 The people that signed the original rental agreement 102 00:03:57,767 --> 00:03:59,166 were on the property at the time 103 00:03:59,166 --> 00:04:00,934 - that they dropped it off. - I don't care. 104 00:04:00,934 --> 00:04:02,900 - Was it on your property? - [Aaron] Yes, it was on our property. 105 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:03,900 So that's a yes. 106 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,266 {\an8}- Yes. - [Judy] So it was on your property, 107 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,467 but used by somebody else, and they were 108 00:04:10,467 --> 00:04:13,333 - just using your property. - Yes. 109 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:14,567 Is that correct? 110 00:04:15,033 --> 00:04:17,834 I had rented it out on Sunday, so when I dropped it off 111 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,967 I told Sandra that 112 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:22,834 we would have to come at 6:30 in the morning to pick it up 113 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:25,300 to clean it and deliver it the next day. 114 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:28,100 She agreed to that. 'Cause normally we don't leave it overnight if it's 115 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,600 going out the next day, 'cause we needed 116 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,367 to sterilize it. We got there at seven in the morning. 117 00:04:33,367 --> 00:04:36,867 We came in and we were getting ready to pick up the 38 ft obstacle. 118 00:04:36,867 --> 00:04:38,533 I noticed that the dogs had 119 00:04:38,533 --> 00:04:39,900 chewed-- and they're two dogs, 120 00:04:39,900 --> 00:04:42,433 {\an8}a boxer and another dog-- were still running around 121 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:45,000 {\an8}and lifting their leg and urinating on the bouncer. 122 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,767 We told her, "Your dog ate our obstacle." 123 00:04:48,900 --> 00:04:51,467 There are pieces of the vinyl which I have pictures of-- 124 00:04:51,467 --> 00:04:54,066 of it where your dogs just ate it. 125 00:04:54,066 --> 00:04:55,166 Pictures of our dogs chewing it? 126 00:04:55,166 --> 00:04:56,066 Just a second. 127 00:04:56,066 --> 00:04:57,633 I don't wanna hear you again! 128 00:04:57,633 --> 00:04:59,734 [Judy] I tried to ignore you quietly. 129 00:04:59,734 --> 00:05:01,567 I figured you'd get the message. 130 00:05:01,567 --> 00:05:02,533 You don't shout out here. 131 00:05:03,433 --> 00:05:04,266 Go ahead. 132 00:05:04,266 --> 00:05:05,734 My husband said um, 133 00:05:05,834 --> 00:05:07,633 "Excuse me, miss, we have a problem. 134 00:05:07,633 --> 00:05:12,834 Your dogs have eaten our obstacle." So then she went in 135 00:05:12,834 --> 00:05:15,200 to go and get her husband. Her husband came out. 136 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,266 He signed papers saying he was responsible 137 00:05:18,266 --> 00:05:20,734 for a loss of rentals and the damages 138 00:05:20,734 --> 00:05:22,300 - or replacement of it. - [Judy] May... 139 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:23,834 - May I see it, please? - Yes. 140 00:05:24,333 --> 00:05:28,100 {\an8}And also he sent text messages to our phone that same morning 141 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:29,967 {\an8}apologizing and saying he would do 142 00:05:29,967 --> 00:05:33,033 everything to replace it plus a loss of rentals that we were gonna lose. 143 00:05:33,033 --> 00:05:35,800 [Judy] I'd like to see those texts 144 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,700 and I would like to see his signature on a piece of paper assuming responsibility. 145 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:40,633 And then... 146 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:41,834 [Judy] Just a second. 147 00:05:43,767 --> 00:05:45,600 [Tabitha] Here are the text messages. 148 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,133 Oh, would you show this to Mr. Laeng, please? 149 00:05:51,367 --> 00:05:52,734 [Judy] Did you sign that, sir? 150 00:05:54,166 --> 00:05:55,166 [Aaron] Yes. 151 00:05:55,166 --> 00:05:57,400 - [Judy] Okay. - I signed it under distress. 152 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,867 - Under distress? - [Aaron] Under distress. 153 00:05:58,867 --> 00:06:00,667 There's no such thing. You mean duress. 154 00:06:00,834 --> 00:06:02,900 - Duress. She was... - [Judy] Just a second. 155 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:05,133 [Judy] There's a difference between distress... 156 00:06:05,133 --> 00:06:09,467 {\an8}- [stutters] Duress. - [Judy] Okay. At 7:29 am 157 00:06:09,467 --> 00:06:12,867 you said, "I, Aaron Laeng, recognize and acknowledge 158 00:06:12,867 --> 00:06:14,767 that a jumper obstacle course has 159 00:06:14,767 --> 00:06:17,800 been damaged from a dog. I will take care 160 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,066 of the repairs and work with the rental company 161 00:06:20,066 --> 00:06:22,867 and its owners to get this resolved ASAP." 162 00:06:22,867 --> 00:06:25,967 And then about 15 minutes later 163 00:06:25,967 --> 00:06:28,233 you wrote, "I'm so sorry again. 164 00:06:28,233 --> 00:06:31,133 Let me know when you drop it off, please." 165 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:33,700 Okay, so you tried to drop it off the next day. 166 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:37,333 I was trying to drop it off the next day to Albert, our repair guy that... 167 00:06:37,333 --> 00:06:38,867 [Judy] Just a second. Just a... 168 00:06:38,867 --> 00:06:41,033 Answer my question. It doesn't require a long answer. 169 00:06:41,133 --> 00:06:43,633 The next day you were trying to get it resolved. 170 00:06:43,633 --> 00:06:45,567 - Yes. - [Judy] And you back and forth with him. 171 00:06:45,567 --> 00:06:47,500 Let me know etcetera, etcetera. 172 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,200 And then you don't hear from him. 173 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,100 No. 174 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:51,266 [Judy] Then it stopped. 175 00:06:51,266 --> 00:06:53,600 "I tried calling you. I tried messaging you 176 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,166 to get this resolved." 177 00:06:55,467 --> 00:06:57,700 - Yes. - [Judy] Okay. Well, Mr. Laeng, 178 00:06:57,700 --> 00:07:01,834 there's no question you acknowledged the damage and you agreed to pay for it. 179 00:07:01,834 --> 00:07:04,300 That's what you have. Can I have that back? 180 00:07:07,367 --> 00:07:09,700 [Judy] You acknowledged in here 181 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:12,700 that you would take full responsibility for this. 182 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:14,166 What's your defense? 183 00:07:14,266 --> 00:07:16,734 My defense is when they arrived on the property to pick up 184 00:07:16,734 --> 00:07:18,900 their jumper that was left unaccounted for-- 185 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:20,700 [Judy] No, no no. When they arrived... 186 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:22,400 [Aaron] When they arrived and they 187 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,867 announced to us that there was 188 00:07:23,867 --> 00:07:25,400 damage to their obstacle course. 189 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,233 - [Judy] Well, they came to you first. - Yes. Correct. 190 00:07:27,233 --> 00:07:28,734 Is that... don't speak. 191 00:07:28,734 --> 00:07:29,967 They came to you first? 192 00:07:30,133 --> 00:07:31,767 - Yes. - [Judy] You came outside? 193 00:07:31,767 --> 00:07:33,166 - Yes. - [Judy] Okay, and when you came outside, 194 00:07:33,166 --> 00:07:35,834 you had a conversation with whom? 195 00:07:35,834 --> 00:07:38,066 I believe... Ms. Robinson. 196 00:07:38,066 --> 00:07:39,934 - [Judy] With Mrs. Robinson? - [Sandra] Yes. 197 00:07:40,033 --> 00:07:42,333 [Judy] Okay. And what did you say to her 198 00:07:42,333 --> 00:07:43,300 and what did she say to you? 199 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:45,800 {\an8}She just went hysterically, 200 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,033 {\an8}like upset that the jumper was damaged, and that's 201 00:07:48,033 --> 00:07:49,767 - when I went inside to get my husband. - [Judy] Just a second. 202 00:07:49,767 --> 00:07:50,967 [Judy] What did she say? 203 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,734 She just started crying. She... 204 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:55,633 - [Judy] Started to cry. - Yeah. 205 00:07:55,633 --> 00:07:58,533 She's like, your dogs-- your dogs damaged 206 00:07:58,633 --> 00:08:01,734 - my obstacle course. - [Judy] Just a second. So she was crying? 207 00:08:01,734 --> 00:08:05,567 - [Sandra] Yes. - [Judy] And did you have any issue 208 00:08:05,567 --> 00:08:09,033 when she said to you, your dogs damaged my obstacle course? 209 00:08:09,133 --> 00:08:12,600 Did you see what was bitten off from the obstacle course? 210 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,266 - I... - [Judy] That's either a yes or a no. 211 00:08:14,266 --> 00:08:15,700 - Yes. - [Judy] The answer is yes. 212 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:17,400 What kind of dogs do you have? 213 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,633 A german shepherd and a boxer. 214 00:08:19,633 --> 00:08:21,333 [Judy] And where had you stored 215 00:08:21,333 --> 00:08:22,967 this unit overnight? 216 00:08:23,166 --> 00:08:24,433 It was left outside. 217 00:08:24,667 --> 00:08:26,233 [Judy] In the backyard? In the front yard? 218 00:08:26,233 --> 00:08:27,934 We live on a huge ranch. 219 00:08:28,033 --> 00:08:30,767 So it's a two-and-a-half-acre parcel, 220 00:08:30,767 --> 00:08:33,900 and it's been known that our neighbor dogs always... 221 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:36,000 [Judy] I don't want to hear neighbor dogs! 222 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:37,800 I don't want to hear coyotes! 223 00:08:37,900 --> 00:08:39,667 I don't want to hear bears! 224 00:08:42,233 --> 00:08:44,166 - My witness, he is the repair guy... - Just a second. 225 00:08:44,166 --> 00:08:45,200 [Judy] Stand up sir. 226 00:08:45,333 --> 00:08:47,200 I don't need an explanation of this. 227 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,567 I'm not going into the repair jumper business. 228 00:08:49,567 --> 00:08:53,500 Thankfully, I have a job and I'm too old to learn anything new. 229 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:54,967 [Narrator] And later today... 230 00:08:54,967 --> 00:08:56,066 You have the phone? 231 00:08:56,066 --> 00:08:57,000 I do. 232 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,967 To this day I am still paying for the data for that phone. 233 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:01,967 - That's a lie. - [Judy] Just a second. 234 00:09:01,967 --> 00:09:03,767 - [Jennifer] I literally... - Just a sec. 235 00:09:03,867 --> 00:09:06,200 Cut off your data and let her get her own plan. 236 00:09:16,734 --> 00:09:19,000 {\an8}[Narrator] Tabitha and Brandon Robinson 237 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,166 {\an8}claim their customers, Aaron and Sandra Laeng, 238 00:09:22,166 --> 00:09:24,834 refuse to pay the costs of repair 239 00:09:24,834 --> 00:09:26,867 after damaging their jumper house. 240 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,133 [Judy] Okay. Now I'm gonna get back to you. 241 00:09:29,233 --> 00:09:31,200 So now your wife comes in to get you, 242 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:32,433 and you went outside. 243 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:33,734 - Yes. - [Judy] And? 244 00:09:33,734 --> 00:09:35,834 - [Aaron] I go outside. - Who else is there? 245 00:09:35,834 --> 00:09:36,900 [Aaron] Just my wife and I. 246 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,867 - [Judy] So just the two of you? - Just the two of us were home. 247 00:09:38,867 --> 00:09:40,400 - [Judy] And they were there? - They were there. 248 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,500 - [Judy] Both of them? - Yes. 249 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:42,567 - [Judy] Okay. - And their daughter. 250 00:09:42,667 --> 00:09:43,834 [Judy] Okay, and? 251 00:09:43,934 --> 00:09:46,767 I go outside. Uh, Mrs. Robinson is completely hysterical, 252 00:09:46,767 --> 00:09:48,200 - crying just... - [Judy] Crying? 253 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,633 ...out of control in hysterics. 254 00:09:49,633 --> 00:09:51,934 - [Judy] Okay. - Her husband's yelling, 255 00:09:51,934 --> 00:09:55,033 - screaming for... - So tell me. So I want you to tell me 256 00:09:55,033 --> 00:09:57,266 exactly... no... 257 00:09:57,266 --> 00:10:00,767 I want you to tell me exactly. 258 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:04,033 - She's crying, and he starts yelling. - [Aaron] Yes. 259 00:10:04,367 --> 00:10:07,100 Well you came out and said what 260 00:10:07,233 --> 00:10:08,734 to them when you came out? 261 00:10:08,734 --> 00:10:11,133 And then I want to hear exactly what was said. 262 00:10:11,133 --> 00:10:13,633 {\an8}I asked to see the damage to-- 263 00:10:13,633 --> 00:10:15,300 {\an8}for them to show me what was going on, 264 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:18,567 {\an8}what had happened. They showed me the damage. 265 00:10:18,734 --> 00:10:20,100 We both took pictures. 266 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,266 Again, they... 267 00:10:21,266 --> 00:10:23,166 [Judy] No. They both-- you both took... 268 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:24,100 Just a second. 269 00:10:24,233 --> 00:10:27,066 So he composed himself long enough to take pictures. 270 00:10:27,066 --> 00:10:29,133 - Yes. - [Judy] And you were composed 271 00:10:29,133 --> 00:10:30,967 - enough to take pictures? - Yes, I was. 272 00:10:30,967 --> 00:10:32,333 - [Judy] Which you have. - Yes. 273 00:10:32,467 --> 00:10:33,900 [Judy] And then what happened? 274 00:10:34,033 --> 00:10:37,266 - Throughout their screaming... - No, no! I want you to tell me. 275 00:10:37,266 --> 00:10:38,667 - I am telling you. - Now, you're taking pictures-- 276 00:10:38,667 --> 00:10:40,967 you're taking pictures and? 277 00:10:40,967 --> 00:10:43,000 Brandon is on the phone with 278 00:10:43,300 --> 00:10:45,734 their repair guy of some sort. Um... 279 00:10:45,734 --> 00:10:50,367 [Judy] Okay, so he is on the phone. He's composed enough to be on the phone. 280 00:10:50,367 --> 00:10:54,734 Now, before he got on the phone with his repair guy, 281 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 did you discuss with him your responsibility 282 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,100 to take care of the damage? 283 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:01,867 - I told him-- - [Judy] That's either yes 284 00:11:01,867 --> 00:11:03,000 - or a no. - Yes. 285 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,900 Yes. 286 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:05,166 So once you said, "I'll take 287 00:11:05,166 --> 00:11:08,000 care of the damage," he got on the phone with his repair guy. 288 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,066 Before I agreed to take care of the damages. 289 00:11:10,066 --> 00:11:12,800 Before we discussed that, he was already on the phone. 290 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:14,867 Then he got off the phone, 291 00:11:14,867 --> 00:11:17,900 but you signed this the same day. So I want to know 292 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:22,567 when in this conversation did you sign this? You need something to lean on. 293 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:25,133 Somebody has to give you a piece of paper. 294 00:11:25,233 --> 00:11:26,967 Somebody has to get a pen. 295 00:11:26,967 --> 00:11:28,667 {\an8}I did not fill out that piece of paper. 296 00:11:28,767 --> 00:11:30,100 {\an8}- [Judy] You don't have to. - Tabitha's the one 297 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:31,467 {\an8}that filled out the piece of paper in their vehicle. 298 00:11:31,467 --> 00:11:32,433 {\an8}[Judy] Who did? 299 00:11:32,433 --> 00:11:35,233 Ms. Robinson. She's the one that filled it out in her vehicle. 300 00:11:35,233 --> 00:11:37,200 [Judy] Okay, so just a second. 301 00:11:37,433 --> 00:11:40,367 - So she got in her vehicle. - [Aaron] Crying in hysterics. 302 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:41,934 [sighs] I don't care. 303 00:11:41,934 --> 00:11:44,600 She got in her vehicle, and where was her husband? 304 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,166 Outside loading the bouncer. 305 00:11:46,367 --> 00:11:48,033 - So, he was outside. - [Aaron] Yes. 306 00:11:48,033 --> 00:11:50,667 She went inside her vehicle, and he was busy. 307 00:11:50,767 --> 00:11:53,066 - Yes. - [Judy] And you live in a house? 308 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:55,900 - Yes. - [Judy] And you felt pressured? 309 00:11:56,066 --> 00:11:58,367 - Yes. - [Judy] You felt as if you were being... 310 00:11:58,467 --> 00:12:00,400 - extorted? - Bullied. Yes. 311 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,600 Did you go inside to call the police? 312 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,567 - No, I did not. I should have. - [Judy] Yeah, but you didn't. 313 00:12:05,567 --> 00:12:06,467 I did not. 314 00:12:06,467 --> 00:12:09,033 You went over to the truck where she was hysterical. 315 00:12:09,033 --> 00:12:10,834 She wrote out this document, right? 316 00:12:10,834 --> 00:12:12,600 - Yes. - [Judy] And you signed it. 317 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,533 - Yes, I did. - There we go. 318 00:12:14,767 --> 00:12:16,233 Make my life very easy. 319 00:12:16,233 --> 00:12:19,567 {\an8}[Judy] Did your repair guy try to fix the bouncer? 320 00:12:19,567 --> 00:12:21,767 {\an8}I do have a receipt where we did have it-- 321 00:12:21,767 --> 00:12:24,000 {\an8}try to get it temporarily patched, 322 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,767 where we paid $600 just to make sure we could 323 00:12:26,767 --> 00:12:28,867 still rent it out. So that was paid for. 324 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:31,767 This is my repair man. Um, he is my witness. 325 00:12:31,767 --> 00:12:33,200 And then also I do 326 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,400 have a, um, paper with an estimate of what it would 327 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,800 be to repair the obstacle. 328 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,033 May I see it, please? 329 00:12:40,433 --> 00:12:42,700 [Judy] After he did this job, 330 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:46,033 which he did on October 4th. 331 00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,033 From the 3rd to the 4th. 332 00:12:48,033 --> 00:12:49,467 Did you rent it out? 333 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:51,734 No. We tried to but this-- 334 00:12:51,734 --> 00:12:53,200 I have the pictures that I brought of 335 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,133 what happens when the air flows through. 336 00:12:55,133 --> 00:12:56,934 The patches won't stay. You have to go up 337 00:12:56,934 --> 00:12:58,867 inside the bouncer and actually 338 00:12:58,867 --> 00:13:02,934 put a patch on the inside and the outside, and it would cost more money. 339 00:13:02,934 --> 00:13:04,200 My witness can... 340 00:13:04,367 --> 00:13:05,734 - he is the repair guy. - [Judy] Just a second. 341 00:13:05,734 --> 00:13:09,433 What you're telling me is that your witness 342 00:13:09,433 --> 00:13:12,967 {\an8}prepared this estimate of what it would cost 343 00:13:13,266 --> 00:13:15,367 - to repair the jumper? - Yes. 344 00:13:15,367 --> 00:13:16,633 Stand up, sir. 345 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,333 I don't need an explanation of this. I'm going into the repair jumper business. 346 00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:22,900 Thankfully, I have a job 347 00:13:22,900 --> 00:13:25,233 and I'm too old to learn anything new. 348 00:13:25,233 --> 00:13:28,734 Did you prepare this estimate to fix the jumper? 349 00:13:28,734 --> 00:13:31,700 {\an8}Yes, ma'am. That is the full estimate to repair it properly. 350 00:13:31,934 --> 00:13:34,066 {\an8}- [Judy] To do it properly, okay. - Yes. 351 00:13:34,066 --> 00:13:35,834 - [Albert] The first one was a temporary - Shush. 352 00:13:35,834 --> 00:13:37,033 I'll-- listen. 353 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:39,400 I got it. I'm a fast learn. And anybody 354 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 who watches this program better learn to think fast too, 355 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,633 'cause I have a lot of things to do today. 356 00:13:43,633 --> 00:13:44,834 So, you prepared this. 357 00:13:44,967 --> 00:13:49,266 So for $2,500 in addition to the $600. 358 00:13:49,367 --> 00:13:51,100 - Did they pay you the $600? - Yes. 359 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:57,533 So in addition to the $600-- so in total, $3,100 would fix the jumper. 360 00:13:57,633 --> 00:13:58,934 - Correct. - [Judy] Great. 361 00:13:58,934 --> 00:14:01,400 That's what you agreed to pay, sir. 362 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,834 You agreed to do the repairs on the jumper. 363 00:14:04,133 --> 00:14:05,100 Now, you want a new jumper. 364 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,333 You're not going to get a new jumper. 365 00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:08,500 You're not gonna get damages for lost income. 366 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:10,033 He's gonna fix the jumper. 367 00:14:10,033 --> 00:14:11,333 How long is it going to take you? 368 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:13,066 Roughly about two days. 369 00:14:13,266 --> 00:14:15,367 - Two to three... - [Judy] Two days! Piece of cake. 370 00:14:15,367 --> 00:14:16,767 $3,100. 371 00:14:16,767 --> 00:14:18,767 Judgment for the plaintiff. We're done. 372 00:14:18,767 --> 00:14:20,200 [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 373 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,367 I don't owe them anything. I didn't rent the bouncer. 374 00:14:22,367 --> 00:14:24,767 I'm just happy that we're going to have our bouncer repaired. 375 00:14:24,767 --> 00:14:26,734 - Because they're money hungry. - They were looking for a pay day. 376 00:14:26,734 --> 00:14:29,266 The truth always comes out, and what's right is what's right. 377 00:14:30,233 --> 00:14:32,066 [Sarah] So initially after reading the papers, 378 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:35,433 I thought the plaintiffs-- while perfectly matched in their tops-- 379 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:37,100 were suing the wrong people. 380 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:41,033 Because these people didn't sign the rental agreement. So any damage, 381 00:14:41,166 --> 00:14:43,100 or any agreement to pay damage-- 382 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,033 I was with you from the beginning that these are the wrong people. 383 00:14:46,133 --> 00:14:48,500 It came out that they had a little bit more involvement-- 384 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:50,367 - the defendant-- then they wanted... - [laughs] They agreed-- 385 00:14:50,367 --> 00:14:52,233 - They agreed to pay. - Exactly. 386 00:14:52,233 --> 00:14:54,100 He knew he did the wrong thing. He probably saw 387 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:56,066 his dogs destroy the jumper 388 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,900 from the kitchen window and felt bad and knew that it was his responsibility. 389 00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:01,233 I don't think they deserve 390 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:03,500 - $9,000 for a brand-new jumper. - No. 391 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:04,734 But they deserved to get it fixed 392 00:15:04,734 --> 00:15:06,633 - so they can keep making money off it. - Right. 393 00:15:06,734 --> 00:15:09,433 Case 2178. Gladd versus Sauber. 394 00:15:09,533 --> 00:15:11,133 All parties please come forward. 395 00:15:11,133 --> 00:15:12,767 {\an8}[Narrator] Serenity Gladd 396 00:15:12,767 --> 00:15:16,333 is suing her ex-girlfriend, Jennifer Sauber, 397 00:15:16,333 --> 00:15:18,133 for unpaid loans. 398 00:15:18,266 --> 00:15:23,500 Miss Gladd, if my memory is correct, you are sueing the defendant 399 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:27,734 for a series of small loans that you claim 400 00:15:27,734 --> 00:15:29,266 she owes you for. 401 00:15:29,266 --> 00:15:31,934 And those loans were created, according to you, 402 00:15:31,934 --> 00:15:34,567 during the period of time that you and the defendant 403 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,734 were either involved in a relationship 404 00:15:36,900 --> 00:15:38,166 and/or engaged. 405 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:40,367 - Yes. - [Judy] How long do you know each other? 406 00:15:40,367 --> 00:15:42,567 We've known each since May of 2021. 407 00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:43,767 [Judy] And there came a time 408 00:15:43,767 --> 00:15:48,300 when the defendant came to live with you or you went to live with the defendant? 409 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:50,066 I moved to Colorado to live with her. 410 00:15:50,233 --> 00:15:51,133 [Judy] And when was that? 411 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,200 That was in May 2022. 412 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:56,567 [Judy] When you moved in with her into Colorado. Were you working? 413 00:15:56,567 --> 00:15:57,767 Not at the time, no. 414 00:15:58,133 --> 00:16:00,066 What kind of work did you do in Colorado? 415 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:01,767 Um, I was unemployed. 416 00:16:01,867 --> 00:16:02,900 [Judy] How did you support yourself? 417 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:06,867 {\an8}A friend of the family helped me out due to my disabilities. 418 00:16:06,867 --> 00:16:08,033 {\an8}[Judy] Who pays your rent? 419 00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:09,400 The friend of the family. 420 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,166 - [Judy] Do you own a car? - I did. 421 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:12,600 - [Judy] Do you now? - No. 422 00:16:12,967 --> 00:16:14,133 Are you working now? 423 00:16:14,533 --> 00:16:15,934 Um, not at the moment, no. 424 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:17,133 [Judy] Prior to that? 425 00:16:17,333 --> 00:16:18,734 Um, I was out in Colorado. 426 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,600 - [Judy] Working. - Yes. 427 00:16:20,867 --> 00:16:21,767 [Judy] For whom? 428 00:16:21,867 --> 00:16:24,400 - Um, it was a local coffee shop. - [Judy] Okay. 429 00:16:24,667 --> 00:16:27,100 Now, you're living together, you are a couple, at some point 430 00:16:27,100 --> 00:16:28,500 {\an8}you became engaged. 431 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,000 {\an8}Then something happened. What happened is probably irrelevant. 432 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,000 What I want you to tell me is from the point that you moved in, 433 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,333 {\an8}what loans do you claim you made to her? 434 00:16:39,433 --> 00:16:42,100 {\an8}I had paid part of a vet bill. 435 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:43,000 When was that? 436 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,767 [Serenity] That was at the end of May. 437 00:16:45,867 --> 00:16:47,567 I have the invoices here. 438 00:16:47,567 --> 00:16:48,967 And what makes that a loan? 439 00:16:49,066 --> 00:16:51,333 Um, because at the time she didn't have money 440 00:16:51,333 --> 00:16:53,767 and she had agreed to pay me back when she had gotten a job. 441 00:16:53,767 --> 00:16:55,333 Did you agree to pay her back 442 00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:57,000 for this vet bill when got a job? 443 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,767 {\an8}No, ma'am. The friend of the family was 444 00:16:58,767 --> 00:17:01,400 {\an8}gonna pay for it all, but she insisted on paying it. 445 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,333 Tell me about that. 446 00:17:02,333 --> 00:17:05,667 Um, so in the vet office, I was messaging the friend of the family. 447 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,934 Um, and he was willing to pay it in full. 448 00:17:07,934 --> 00:17:11,967 Um, and she was like, "No, no. I'm going to pay for it. 449 00:17:12,066 --> 00:17:13,433 You need to quit asking him for money." 450 00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:16,066 I was like, "He is the person that supports me right now. 451 00:17:16,166 --> 00:17:17,500 We do not have the money. 452 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,967 So he is going to help us." 453 00:17:18,967 --> 00:17:22,767 She said that she would pay for half of it, I believe it was. 454 00:17:22,767 --> 00:17:24,333 - For half? - [Jennifer] For half. 455 00:17:24,433 --> 00:17:26,500 - Okay. - So, it was like $100. 456 00:17:27,266 --> 00:17:28,333 How much was it? 457 00:17:28,934 --> 00:17:30,066 $170. 458 00:17:30,433 --> 00:17:31,633 Let's keep moving on. 459 00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:36,033 I've been paying my data on my phone 460 00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:37,800 - and she keeps turning it off. - [Judy] Just a sec. 461 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,667 - I can't help you with that. - I understand. 462 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:42,400 [Judy] You know I'm not one of those-- what do they call them-- geniuses. 463 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,900 - [Sarah] Genius Bar - Yeah, I'm not a genius person. 464 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:46,233 Not with phones anyways. 465 00:17:57,433 --> 00:17:59,700 {\an8}[Narrator] Serenity Gladd claims 466 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:02,333 {\an8}her ex-girlfriend, Jennifer Sauber, 467 00:18:02,333 --> 00:18:04,834 refuses to pay back loans given to her 468 00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:06,400 during their engagement. 469 00:18:06,533 --> 00:18:08,900 Now, what other loans do you think she owes you for? 470 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,400 I had brought her tires for her car. 471 00:18:11,767 --> 00:18:13,400 - [Judy] When? - That was on... 472 00:18:13,567 --> 00:18:15,834 June 17th, I believe. 473 00:18:15,834 --> 00:18:17,266 Were you using the car? 474 00:18:17,567 --> 00:18:19,333 - I was using the car. - [Judy] Okay. 475 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:21,367 [Judy] For how long were you using the car? 476 00:18:21,367 --> 00:18:23,433 About... two months. 477 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:25,667 And what were you using the car for? 478 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,800 Getting to work. 479 00:18:26,934 --> 00:18:29,300 So, at that point, it was just as much 480 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:31,300 your vehicle as it was hers, 'cause she wasn't working. 481 00:18:31,633 --> 00:18:33,667 - So you took the car to work? - Yes. 482 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,133 - And the car needed tires? - [Serenity] Yes. 483 00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:37,066 {\an8}[Judy] And? 484 00:18:37,066 --> 00:18:40,667 {\an8}Um, I ended up paying for them just for safety reasons, 485 00:18:40,667 --> 00:18:41,834 given that... 486 00:18:41,967 --> 00:18:44,200 Well, it was your safety. You were driving it. 487 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,667 - Right? - That's true. Yes. 488 00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:46,834 Let's move on. 489 00:18:47,667 --> 00:18:48,834 [Judy] Next loan. 490 00:18:48,934 --> 00:18:52,700 Um, on top of that, I had to pay for a vet insurance for her dog. 491 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:53,900 She didn't have to. 492 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:55,300 - [Judy] Just a second. - Sorry. 493 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,767 And then even after I had left Colorado, 494 00:18:57,767 --> 00:18:59,734 she asked me to leave her dog on the plan 495 00:18:59,734 --> 00:19:01,700 - and just... - You have your own animals? 496 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:03,333 - No. - [Judy] No. So... 497 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,600 after you left Colorado when you were no longer a couple, 498 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,400 did you request that she continue 499 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,934 to pay for the vet insurance? 500 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,400 That's either a yes or no. 501 00:19:11,533 --> 00:19:12,633 I don't remember. 502 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,467 [Judy] Well, she says you did. 503 00:19:14,467 --> 00:19:18,033 How many months did you pay after you left Colorado? Show me. 504 00:19:18,033 --> 00:19:19,233 After you left her, 505 00:19:19,233 --> 00:19:22,100 you were no longer a couple. How many months did you pay? 506 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,266 I had ended up paying... 507 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,600 [Judy] Just the months? 508 00:19:26,033 --> 00:19:26,967 Two months. 509 00:19:26,967 --> 00:19:28,767 And how much for those two months? 510 00:19:28,767 --> 00:19:30,333 $71.46. 511 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,433 [Judy] What's next? 512 00:19:31,533 --> 00:19:33,133 [Serenity] After that, the biggest one 513 00:19:33,133 --> 00:19:35,233 is the phone that she has. 514 00:19:35,567 --> 00:19:37,667 Tell me when you got the phone. 515 00:19:37,667 --> 00:19:40,266 When she got a new phone, because I assume she had a phone. 516 00:19:40,367 --> 00:19:41,700 - Is that right? - I actually had 517 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,133 {\an8}just brought a brand-new phone 518 00:19:43,233 --> 00:19:45,166 {\an8}and I insisted I didn't need a new one. 519 00:19:45,166 --> 00:19:46,934 What kind of phone did you buy? 520 00:19:46,934 --> 00:19:48,600 Uh, iPhone 11 mini. 521 00:19:48,734 --> 00:19:50,433 - [Judy] And? - [Jennifer] Um, I got the phone 522 00:19:50,433 --> 00:19:52,400 and I have a hard time seeing 523 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,800 and I didn't have glasses. 524 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,533 And I was like, "It would be nice to have a larger phone." 525 00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:58,066 We actually originally went to get us 526 00:19:58,066 --> 00:20:00,467 on the same plan. I was gonna keep my same phone, but I was looking at 527 00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:03,266 the phone and she was like, "Let's both just get new phones." 528 00:20:03,266 --> 00:20:04,767 I was like, "That's not a good idea." 529 00:20:04,767 --> 00:20:06,934 She was like, "Let's just get them. It's fine." 530 00:20:06,934 --> 00:20:09,700 So I traded in my old phone for about $400, 531 00:20:09,700 --> 00:20:12,867 and we got the phone and the agreement was 532 00:20:12,867 --> 00:20:16,266 since I traded my old phone, I still had to pay off the old phone. 533 00:20:16,266 --> 00:20:20,000 'Cause I just got it. So the agreement was I pay off my old phone, 534 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,500 and to keep the service on I would pay for my service and my data. 535 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,133 And she would pay off the phone itself. 536 00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:27,667 That was our original agreement. 537 00:20:27,667 --> 00:20:30,233 Then a few weeks later she's like, "I never said that." 538 00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:33,433 Okay. How much did you end up paying for her phone? 539 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:38,066 As of currently, there's $575 paid on her phone. 540 00:20:38,066 --> 00:20:40,600 - Do you still have that phone? - I do. 541 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,066 [Judy] Can I see that there's 575 dollars left on her phone? 542 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,533 Not because you got two when you got new phones. 543 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:49,934 - So just hers. - I have this. 544 00:20:50,233 --> 00:20:53,367 - [Judy] Is that for one phone or two? - That is for one phone. Yes. 545 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:01,433 Okay, could you show this to the defendant, Kevin, please. 546 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,900 - [Judy] And you have the phone? - I do. 547 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:04,934 [Judy] And you're not paying for it? 548 00:21:04,934 --> 00:21:06,700 I'm paying for the service. 549 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,734 - For what we agreed on. - Service. I'm not talking about service. 550 00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:11,467 - That receipt is for one phone. - Yes. 551 00:21:11,467 --> 00:21:13,900 It says your phone is a little over $1,000. 552 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,533 - Yes. - What was put down on the phone 553 00:21:15,533 --> 00:21:17,233 was almost $400. 554 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:22,567 There were some payments made, and what's still due in owing on the phone is $514. 555 00:21:22,567 --> 00:21:24,000 - That's what it says. - Yes, ma'am. 556 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,100 [Judy] Okay, great. And you have the phone? 557 00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:27,600 - I do. - [Judy] Great. 558 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:33,200 So $71.46 and $514 is $585. Anything else? 559 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,834 To this day I am still paying 560 00:21:34,834 --> 00:21:37,100 - for the data for that phone. - That's a lie. 561 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,166 [Judy] Just a second. 562 00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:40,166 - [Jennifer] I literally... - Just a sec. 563 00:21:40,266 --> 00:21:42,033 Cut her off your data. Let her get her own plan. 564 00:21:42,033 --> 00:21:44,667 She'll go in to get her own plan. Right now what's due in owing 565 00:21:44,667 --> 00:21:46,900 on the phone is $514. 566 00:21:47,033 --> 00:21:48,333 - Is that right? - Yes. 567 00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:50,367 - [Judy] Okay. - I've been paying my data on my phone 568 00:21:50,367 --> 00:21:52,066 and she keeps turning it off. 569 00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:55,133 Just a sec. I suggest you get a new plan. You have your phone-- 570 00:21:55,133 --> 00:21:56,400 - get another plan. - I've been trying to 571 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,433 but she keeps-- 572 00:21:57,433 --> 00:21:58,600 [Judy] I can't help you with that. 573 00:21:58,700 --> 00:21:59,867 - I understand. - [Judy] You know, 574 00:21:59,867 --> 00:22:02,533 I'm not one of those-- what do they call them-- geniuses. 575 00:22:02,533 --> 00:22:05,266 - [Sarah] Genius Bar. - Yeah, I'm not a genius person. 576 00:22:05,266 --> 00:22:06,734 Not with phones anyways. 577 00:22:06,834 --> 00:22:11,133 Okay. $71.46 and $514. 578 00:22:11,133 --> 00:22:15,533 My math is almost correct. It's $585.46. 579 00:22:15,533 --> 00:22:16,934 That's what she owes you. 580 00:22:16,934 --> 00:22:18,233 - 400 of that is for... - Judgment for the plaintiff. 581 00:22:18,233 --> 00:22:19,633 - ...my old phone - We're finished. 582 00:22:19,633 --> 00:22:20,834 Judgment for the plaintiff. 583 00:22:20,934 --> 00:22:23,633 That's what she owes. That's what she owes on you. 584 00:22:23,734 --> 00:22:24,600 We're done. 585 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,266 [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 586 00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:27,333 I'm okay with it. 587 00:22:27,333 --> 00:22:29,066 I do think it was a very fair hearing. 588 00:22:29,066 --> 00:22:30,600 I'm okay with it because... 589 00:22:30,767 --> 00:22:33,734 I, you know, just want things to be alright between us. 590 00:22:33,734 --> 00:22:35,834 'Cause she's still my best friend, and I still love her. 591 00:22:35,834 --> 00:22:37,800 I mean, I feel the same way. You know, I do-- 592 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,667 I do love her. She's my best friend. 593 00:22:39,767 --> 00:22:41,166 I just-- same exact thing. 594 00:22:41,166 --> 00:22:42,433 I just hope things smooth over. 595 00:22:43,233 --> 00:22:45,734 [Sarah] So, I think naturally when you're engaged to be 596 00:22:45,734 --> 00:22:47,100 married to someone or when you're married 597 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:50,200 or even in a very serious relationship for a year, 598 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,867 you don't keep a laundry list of expenses. I took you to 599 00:22:52,867 --> 00:22:55,500 dinner this night for our anniversary. Here's your half. 600 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,500 We went on vacation. Here's your half. 601 00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,333 So it makes it that much more important 602 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:01,367 when you're in a serious relationship like that, 603 00:23:01,367 --> 00:23:03,967 because in the eyes of the law those things are sort of a wash 604 00:23:03,967 --> 00:23:04,867 in the relationship. 605 00:23:04,867 --> 00:23:08,633 So if you believe that something is really a loan that you both decided as partners-- 606 00:23:08,633 --> 00:23:09,800 I know we're together. 607 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:13,166 I know we do things together that we both cover the expenses and pay for. 608 00:23:13,166 --> 00:23:16,934 But this $1,000 phone is outside the scope of that relationship. 609 00:23:17,066 --> 00:23:19,367 Let's just write something down so that we'll remember 610 00:23:19,367 --> 00:23:21,467 that although we're together, this was a loan. 611 00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:23,633 It makes it all that much more important because... 612 00:23:23,767 --> 00:23:25,066 - And simple! - And simple. 613 00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:27,934 Because otherwise, the law is going to look at your relationship first 614 00:23:28,066 --> 00:23:31,200 and determine is it one of those washed-in-ers, 615 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,233 or is it something that was legitimate? 616 00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:36,934 So it would just make it a lot simpler, and if things don't work out in the end, 617 00:23:36,934 --> 00:23:38,400 easier for you to get your money back. 618 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,233 - I think you're right. - [chuckles] Thank you. 619 00:23:41,867 --> 00:23:45,467 [Narrator] Want justice? 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