1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:03,000 {\an8}A car comes out from over here, it hits me. 2 00:00:03,767 --> 00:00:06,500 And I ended up in his yard... to avoid a collision. 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:07,867 The victim of a hit and run. 4 00:00:07,867 --> 00:00:08,800 I'm a victim here. 5 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:13,100 She swerved in my direction to avoid hitting other cars. 6 00:00:13,367 --> 00:00:14,567 That sounds smart. 7 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:18,667 Well... This is Judy Justice. 8 00:00:36,567 --> 00:00:41,900 Jimmy Davis is suing motorist Mi Keya Bingham for property damage 9 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:44,300 to his house from a car accident. 10 00:00:44,867 --> 00:00:47,300 Court come to order. All rise. 11 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:49,133 Have a seat everyone. 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,166 {\an8}Hello Judge. Case 2157, Davis versus Bingham. 13 00:00:56,367 --> 00:00:57,333 Miss Bingham. 14 00:00:57,834 --> 00:01:01,767 Yes, ma'am. You hit Mr. Davis' house. 15 00:01:01,767 --> 00:01:03,667 It was a wall, a retaining wall. Wall. 16 00:01:03,667 --> 00:01:04,867 Yes, ma'am. 17 00:01:04,867 --> 00:01:06,433 You hit his wall... 18 00:01:06,433 --> 00:01:08,266 {\an8}- Yes, ma'am. - with your car 19 00:01:08,266 --> 00:01:10,767 {\an8}Yes, ma'am. It damaged his wall. 20 00:01:11,333 --> 00:01:14,667 His wall didn't move. His wall didn't come up on you. 21 00:01:14,667 --> 00:01:16,900 And you were at home at the time. 22 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:18,266 No, ma'am. I was actually away. 23 00:01:18,266 --> 00:01:20,500 {\an8}Okay, so you didn't see what happened. 24 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:22,133 {\an8}Not visually witness the incident. 25 00:01:22,133 --> 00:01:23,867 Okay. - Just the damage after. 26 00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:25,367 - Who did? - There were several neighbors. 27 00:01:25,367 --> 00:01:27,166 Uh, one of my neighbors called me... 28 00:01:27,166 --> 00:01:29,066 You don't... you have no witnesses here today. 29 00:01:29,066 --> 00:01:30,934 I do not have any witnesses with me today. They could not... 30 00:01:30,934 --> 00:01:32,266 Do you have a police report? 31 00:01:32,266 --> 00:01:34,200 - Yes, ma'am. I do. - I'd like to take a look at it. 32 00:01:40,066 --> 00:01:41,400 Thank you. 33 00:01:42,033 --> 00:01:44,900 Accident happened on September 22nd. 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,667 Who's car were you driving? 35 00:01:46,667 --> 00:01:48,967 It was my car. My dad bought it for me. 36 00:01:48,967 --> 00:01:50,633 When? Uh, last year. 37 00:01:50,633 --> 00:01:51,934 {\an8}Um. What kind of car is it? 38 00:01:51,934 --> 00:01:54,300 {\an8}20-..., 2012 Nissan Altima. 39 00:01:54,300 --> 00:01:55,433 You have insurance on the car? 40 00:01:55,433 --> 00:01:57,133 I have insurance. 41 00:01:57,133 --> 00:01:59,700 Did you have insurance? And you're going to tell me with whom, 42 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:01,300 'cause that she can check, 43 00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:04,333 on September 22nd of 2022? 44 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:05,300 Yes, ma'am. 45 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:06,467 You did? - Yes, ma'am... 46 00:02:06,467 --> 00:02:08,066 With whom? - Direct. 47 00:02:08,066 --> 00:02:09,867 Okay, let me see that you had insurance. 48 00:02:09,867 --> 00:02:11,700 Do you have proof that you had insurance on the car? 49 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:13,233 Well, I have the policy. 50 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:15,667 Were you current on payments for the policy? 51 00:02:15,667 --> 00:02:16,600 Yes, ma'am. 52 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,233 Okay, so you had insurance. 53 00:02:18,233 --> 00:02:21,400 I'm just wondering why your insurance didn't cover this accident. 54 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,000 I know. 55 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,400 {\an8}What time did you hit his wall, on the 22nd? 56 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,967 {\an8}It was about 4:30, 4:45ish. 57 00:02:29,967 --> 00:02:31,500 In the afternoon? - Yes, ma'am. 58 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:32,400 Where were you going? 59 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,600 I was on the way to pick up my uncle to go to my son's football game. 60 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,033 Okay, so Miss Bingham, tell me what happened. 61 00:02:39,033 --> 00:02:40,867 I was getting off the interstate. 62 00:02:40,867 --> 00:02:43,667 I turned right. I was coming up to the light. 63 00:02:43,667 --> 00:02:46,133 As I was going to the light, I never seen the car-- 64 00:02:46,133 --> 00:02:49,300 Go up to the chart and tell, explain it to me. 65 00:02:50,066 --> 00:02:54,066 Okay, so this is 28th. I got off the interstate, this is me, 66 00:02:54,066 --> 00:02:55,700 driving straight to the light. 67 00:02:55,700 --> 00:02:58,133 As I was going straight, just how it happened, 68 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:00,467 a car comes out from over here, in Hadley Park. 69 00:03:00,867 --> 00:03:02,033 It hits me. 70 00:03:02,033 --> 00:03:05,133 It caused me to go left, but I was in this lane. 71 00:03:05,133 --> 00:03:06,266 I was in this lane. 72 00:03:06,266 --> 00:03:09,166 It was gonna cause me to go left and hit the cars in these lanes. 73 00:03:09,166 --> 00:03:11,500 So I turned right, and I ended up in his yard. 74 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:13,033 To avoid a collision. 75 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:16,934 Do you have photographs of the rear damage to your car? 76 00:03:17,433 --> 00:03:22,433 Um, it's right here, but you can't see. I guess they cropped out most of it. 77 00:03:22,433 --> 00:03:24,834 I want to see the damage to the right... 78 00:03:25,166 --> 00:03:26,834 If I may... - driver side... yes. 79 00:03:26,834 --> 00:03:28,266 I have some photos that might be helpful. 80 00:03:28,266 --> 00:03:29,467 I'd like to see them. 81 00:03:31,433 --> 00:03:35,100 Uh, these are the car and these are other vantages as well. 82 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:47,367 So, it appears that someone hit her car... 83 00:03:47,367 --> 00:03:50,700 - Um-hmm. - on the driver's rear panel. 84 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:51,600 Yes, ma'am. 85 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,567 And took off. - Yes, yes ma'am. 86 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:55,667 Do you own this home, sir? - Yes, ma'am, I do. 87 00:03:55,667 --> 00:04:00,133 And there's no question that you swerved in and damaged his property. 88 00:04:00,133 --> 00:04:01,433 Yes, ma'am Okay. 89 00:04:01,433 --> 00:04:04,166 Did you try to contact her insurance company? 90 00:04:04,166 --> 00:04:06,400 I did. - You went home, you were called, 91 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,533 came from wherever you were from work. You came home... 92 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:09,433 Correct. you took a look at it. 93 00:04:09,433 --> 00:04:11,166 Car was still there when you got home? 94 00:04:11,166 --> 00:04:13,533 {\an8}Uh, no, ma'am. She, uh, the car was removed. 95 00:04:13,533 --> 00:04:18,567 {\an8}My neighbor was able to put me on the phone with Mi Keya and the police officer. 96 00:04:18,567 --> 00:04:19,900 So I was able to get that information. 97 00:04:19,900 --> 00:04:22,967 Immediately, when returning home, I reached out 98 00:04:22,967 --> 00:04:25,333 to submit the photos that I had taken myself. 99 00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:27,867 And submit the police report after obtaining it. 100 00:04:27,867 --> 00:04:31,433 It took, you know, quite a considerable amount of time to get back with me, 101 00:04:31,433 --> 00:04:34,934 but, when I reached out again to understand the status, 102 00:04:34,934 --> 00:04:38,166 they said that she's not liable and they were not going to stand behind it. 103 00:04:38,166 --> 00:04:41,300 Can I see what they sent to you? Did they send something to you? 104 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:42,233 They did send a letter. 105 00:04:42,233 --> 00:04:43,266 I'd like to see it. 106 00:04:43,266 --> 00:04:47,166 Uh, I do not have that letter with me, but I actually called to speak with them. 107 00:04:47,166 --> 00:04:48,700 You said they sent you a letter. 108 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:50,333 Yes, ma'am. - And where is it? 109 00:04:50,333 --> 00:04:52,066 I don't have letter. It was a denial letter. 110 00:04:52,066 --> 00:04:53,700 That said it was not her fault. 111 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:56,367 It did not say it was her fault, but they said they could not 112 00:04:56,367 --> 00:04:59,867 uh, submit the claim due to, I guess, the whatever... 113 00:04:59,867 --> 00:05:01,600 insurance she had, whatever coverage she had. 114 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:02,500 The amount of coverage. 115 00:05:02,500 --> 00:05:04,533 Oh no, that's a different story. 116 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:06,066 You see, that's why I need the letter. 117 00:05:06,066 --> 00:05:07,233 'Kay. 118 00:05:07,233 --> 00:05:10,367 Either they said that they're denying the claim because it wasn't her fault. 119 00:05:10,367 --> 00:05:13,000 Or they're denying her claim because she had no insurance to cover it. 120 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,200 The letter also indicated, of course, reaching out to the company to speak 121 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,300 and to discuss it further. 122 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:20,266 So when I did reach out to the point of contact on the letter, 123 00:05:20,266 --> 00:05:22,700 to understand why they weren't covering it, 124 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,400 the amount of coverage that she had did not cover, I guess, property damage. 125 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,667 And that was an argument between me and the company. 126 00:05:28,667 --> 00:05:30,133 Well, how much did it cover? 127 00:05:30,133 --> 00:05:32,200 They did not specify. How mu... oh... 128 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,266 They simply denied it and pushed it away, and actually hung up on me, so... 129 00:05:35,266 --> 00:05:37,333 There's no denying the car's there, right? 130 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:38,633 Ooh, yes. 131 00:05:38,633 --> 00:05:39,667 No denying the accident. 132 00:05:39,667 --> 00:05:42,500 No, I do understand you. Do you have homeowner's insurance? 133 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:43,533 I do have homeowner's insurance. 134 00:05:43,533 --> 00:05:45,734 Did you put it in through your homeowner's insurance? 135 00:05:45,734 --> 00:05:49,166 I consulted homeowner's insurance and they suggested that I work this out. 136 00:05:49,166 --> 00:05:52,066 Me personally, instead of taking the hit on my homeowner's insurance, 137 00:05:52,066 --> 00:05:55,133 as a victim of this accident. So, I didn't see that necessary. 138 00:05:55,133 --> 00:05:58,066 Well, Mr. Davis, I sort of disagree with you, sir. 139 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:02,266 And usually, that's not the position I take. 140 00:06:02,266 --> 00:06:05,133 But if I am to believe Miss Bingham, 141 00:06:05,133 --> 00:06:09,467 {\an8}and based upon the evidence that you presented to me, 142 00:06:09,467 --> 00:06:12,133 {\an8}it clearly demonstrates that she was hit. 143 00:06:12,133 --> 00:06:14,867 Her vehicle was a victim of a hit and run. 144 00:06:14,867 --> 00:06:18,667 Her vehicle was hit, which caused this accident. 145 00:06:18,667 --> 00:06:22,767 There is no indication anywhere in the police reports that she was speeding, 146 00:06:22,767 --> 00:06:24,200 that she went through a light... 147 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,633 Based on her own testimony she swerved in my direction to avoid hitting other cars. 148 00:06:29,633 --> 00:06:31,500 Well, wouldn't that be smart? 149 00:06:35,133 --> 00:06:38,700 {\an8}If her insurance didn't cover it, your homeowner's will cover it. 150 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:41,266 {\an8}My homeowner's covers that, and that's a penalty for me, 151 00:06:41,266 --> 00:06:42,367 {\an8}and I'm a victim here. 152 00:06:42,367 --> 00:06:43,433 So is she... - She crossed over... 153 00:06:43,433 --> 00:06:46,767 Just a second. So is she. She can't find the other driver. 154 00:06:46,767 --> 00:06:49,633 {\an8}- I mean, it would be different... - That's, that's her responsibility. 155 00:06:49,633 --> 00:06:51,200 No, sir. 156 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,500 And later today... 157 00:06:52,500 --> 00:06:54,734 {\an8}- You would like the two kayaks back. - Correct. 158 00:06:54,734 --> 00:06:58,133 {\an8}And when did you begin storing them at the defendant's? 159 00:06:58,133 --> 00:07:00,867 {\an8}I brought them over the next day after I bought them. 160 00:07:00,867 --> 00:07:03,266 {\an8}Okay, you acknowledge the fact that the plaintiff, 161 00:07:03,266 --> 00:07:06,000 {\an8}who was then your friend, brought them over for you to store, 162 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,266 {\an8}you're not friends anymore, she wants them back. 163 00:07:08,266 --> 00:07:09,233 {\an8}Why not? 164 00:07:20,667 --> 00:07:24,533 Jimmy Davis, claims motorist Mi Keya Bingham 165 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:29,767 {\an8}owes for damage to his house after Mi Keya crashed into his yard. 166 00:07:29,767 --> 00:07:31,133 That sounds smart. 167 00:07:31,133 --> 00:07:33,333 It was smart... - She didn't want to hit oncoming traffic 168 00:07:33,333 --> 00:07:34,800 coming from the other direction... 169 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,834 It was not oncoming traffic. She was in the same lane with the traffic. 170 00:07:37,834 --> 00:07:39,834 If I am to believe her, 171 00:07:39,934 --> 00:07:45,533 {\an8}and your evidence showing that her car was hit in the rear on the driver's side, 172 00:07:45,533 --> 00:07:47,133 {\an8}So I have no reason to doubt her. 173 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:50,100 {\an8}There was no issue of drugs or alcohol involved. 174 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:52,500 {\an8}You weren't issued a citation, I assume? 175 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:53,767 {\an8}No, ma'am. No. 176 00:07:53,767 --> 00:07:57,900 {\an8}Then, if her insurance didn't cover it, your homeowner's will cover it. 177 00:07:57,900 --> 00:07:59,567 Sure. - And you should go thru your homeowner's. 178 00:07:59,567 --> 00:08:02,633 My homeowner's covers that, covers that, and that's a penalty for me. 179 00:08:02,633 --> 00:08:03,700 And I'm a victim here. 180 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:04,934 So is she... - She crossed over... 181 00:08:04,934 --> 00:08:06,767 Just a second, so is she. 182 00:08:06,767 --> 00:08:07,734 I under... - If I am to believe her, 183 00:08:07,734 --> 00:08:08,900 and I believe her. 184 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:09,834 So is she. 185 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,734 I understand, uh, but... So I think what you have to do, 186 00:08:12,734 --> 00:08:14,667 is go though your homeowner's, not Miss Bingham. 187 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:17,967 She can't find the other driver. I mean, it would be different... 188 00:08:17,967 --> 00:08:19,333 That's, that's her responsibility. 189 00:08:19,333 --> 00:08:20,867 No, sir. 190 00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:23,834 She is a victim of a hit and run. 191 00:08:23,834 --> 00:08:25,834 She has no way, 192 00:08:25,834 --> 00:08:28,567 unless it comes out of her pocket, of compensating you. 193 00:08:28,567 --> 00:08:30,266 It came out of my pocket... She has no... 194 00:08:30,266 --> 00:08:32,433 directly No, she has no way, 195 00:08:32,433 --> 00:08:35,600 unless it's out of her pocket, of compensating you. 196 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,734 She has insurance. You have no evidence to give me today, 197 00:08:39,734 --> 00:08:44,734 as to why her insurance made a decision that they weren't responsible. 198 00:08:44,734 --> 00:08:47,100 You don't have that with you today. 199 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:49,934 And it could very well be, as her insurance company determined, 200 00:08:49,934 --> 00:08:53,467 that this accident, while tragic, was not her fault. 201 00:08:53,467 --> 00:08:55,800 She was, in fact, a victim of a hit and run. 202 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,133 You were a byproduct of that. So, I'm telling you, 203 00:09:00,133 --> 00:09:01,433 go to your homeowner's. 204 00:09:01,433 --> 00:09:03,967 Well, let me understand correctly here... 205 00:09:03,967 --> 00:09:07,133 What I'm telling you is, use your homeowner's. 206 00:09:07,133 --> 00:09:09,033 That's what I would do. 207 00:09:09,033 --> 00:09:12,033 That's you. I mean a lot of other people would have a different decision. 208 00:09:12,033 --> 00:09:14,200 A lot of other people would bring it to small claims court 209 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,734 and try to dispute that, and that's what-- 210 00:09:15,734 --> 00:09:18,900 Well, that's what your doing and I am telling you that you should use your 211 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:20,700 homeowner's insurance because that's what it's for. 212 00:09:20,700 --> 00:09:24,133 Typically, with car insurance, there's property coverage-- 213 00:09:24,133 --> 00:09:28,367 You don't have, sir, I'm not accepting your hearsay. 214 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:32,567 You have to prove your case to me. You see, that's your burden. 215 00:09:32,567 --> 00:09:34,400 You have to prove your case. 216 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:40,367 I have now made a decision that the accident was not caused by her. 217 00:09:40,367 --> 00:09:43,166 She was not... - Not caused by her deciding to swerve 218 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:45,734 - into my property. - Are you trying to talk over me? 219 00:09:45,734 --> 00:09:47,934 Just adding a little extra context to it. 220 00:09:47,934 --> 00:09:50,967 It was not caused by substance abuse. 221 00:09:50,967 --> 00:09:53,033 It was not caused by speeding. 222 00:09:53,033 --> 00:09:58,734 There was no violation given to her. And according to you, she had insurance. 223 00:09:59,166 --> 00:10:02,367 So it's up to you to show me why... 224 00:10:02,367 --> 00:10:03,800 Her insurance policy... her insurance... 225 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,100 No, not her policy. Why you were told her insurance didn't cover it? 226 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:09,567 You don't have that here. 227 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:12,367 In the event that you'd given me a letter, and the letter said 228 00:10:12,367 --> 00:10:15,300 she has liability for a certain amount, 229 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:21,200 but it's not the $5000 that you're alleging that it will cost to redo this. 230 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:25,000 She only had $2500, well then I would say to you: 231 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,633 "Her insurance should kick in the $2500 and I'm gonna give you the other $2500." 232 00:10:29,633 --> 00:10:32,066 You shouldn't be out of pocket. I would do that... 233 00:10:32,066 --> 00:10:35,266 If she determines to underinsure, 234 00:10:35,367 --> 00:10:40,166 her liability so that she pays less in insurance, then that's on her. Then... 235 00:10:40,166 --> 00:10:42,800 The insurance company wouldn't disclose all that to me. 236 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,767 They sent you a letter and you don't have it. 237 00:10:45,767 --> 00:10:47,033 {\an8}A denial letter and... No. 238 00:10:47,033 --> 00:10:49,867 {\an8}That's what you're telling me, that's hearsay, sir. 239 00:10:49,867 --> 00:10:51,367 {\an8}- Okay. - That's hearsay. 240 00:10:51,367 --> 00:10:53,767 It's not hearsay if you bring it in to show it to me. 241 00:10:53,767 --> 00:10:55,867 - Understood. - So what I'm telling you is 242 00:10:55,867 --> 00:11:00,500 this is an incident where, in my judgment, you have two innocent people 243 00:11:00,500 --> 00:11:04,000 who were both victims of an irresponsible driver. 244 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,300 And if her insurance company, for some reason, 245 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:08,400 {\an8}and I don't know know what it is, 246 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,400 {\an8}that's for her to take up with her insurance company. 247 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,166 {\an8}I don't know whether she's under insured or they determined, 248 00:11:13,166 --> 00:11:16,166 after looking at the same things that I determined, 249 00:11:16,166 --> 00:11:17,700 that the accident wasn't her fault. 250 00:11:18,166 --> 00:11:22,233 So, you can't tell me what they wrote, because you didn't bring that letter. 251 00:11:22,233 --> 00:11:24,400 And we're talking about something that you got a month ago. 252 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,767 Understood... Okay, good. 253 00:11:25,767 --> 00:11:28,567 - I have a question for you. - Then go through your homeowner's, 254 00:11:28,567 --> 00:11:30,133 'cause your case is dismissed. We're done. 255 00:11:30,133 --> 00:11:31,266 This court is adjourned. 256 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,333 {\an8}The defendant says she chose to drive into my house 257 00:11:37,333 --> 00:11:38,667 {\an8}instead of hitting another car. 258 00:11:39,133 --> 00:11:41,066 {\an8}Both are equally as dangerous and that cost me. 259 00:11:41,066 --> 00:11:43,500 {\an8}I didn't want to hit five or six other cars. 260 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,900 {\an8}So, I just did what I thought was best. 261 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:49,266 {\an8}You know, I found out because it's a very public street, 262 00:11:49,266 --> 00:11:52,500 {\an8}uh, many people know that community, so people reached out. 263 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:54,467 {\an8}It was just, everything happened so fast. 264 00:11:54,467 --> 00:11:56,800 {\an8}I can't explain it. Energy was just, like, I'm stuck. 265 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,367 {\an8}You know, my car just got stuck, and I was just like, hey... 266 00:12:00,166 --> 00:12:02,767 {\an8}... I'm just glad I didn't hurt anybody else. 267 00:12:02,767 --> 00:12:04,767 {\an8}Because they saw that it was a very horrible accident. 268 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:08,633 {\an8}That's all. I was happy I was still here. Not the car, not the house, me. 269 00:12:08,633 --> 00:12:10,367 {\an8}I'm glad I'm still here to hold my son. 270 00:12:11,767 --> 00:12:13,600 You know, the plaintiff really hurt himself 271 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,900 with those photos of the defendant's car. 272 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:18,533 And he didn't even notice. I don't think he even notices still. 273 00:12:18,533 --> 00:12:20,700 But she had no proof in front of her. 274 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:23,734 No papers, no photos of what her car looked like. 275 00:12:23,734 --> 00:12:26,967 So she would have no way of showing that the accident was not her fault. 276 00:12:26,967 --> 00:12:30,700 But he proved at the accident was not her fault, based on the photos of the car 277 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:32,767 and just the situation in which her car got hit. 278 00:12:32,767 --> 00:12:34,900 But that's the reason that people have insurance. 279 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:39,767 So, I agreed with your sentiment about "use it", that's it's entire purpose. 280 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,700 And I think that if he would have come in here and said, 281 00:12:42,700 --> 00:12:47,700 "Okay, I will put it through insurance, but I have a $5000 deductible." 282 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:51,667 I felt like you would been more inclined to give him a portion of that... 283 00:12:51,667 --> 00:12:52,867 - Yeah. - Since neither of them were 284 00:12:52,867 --> 00:12:53,934 really at fault. They were both Right. 285 00:12:53,934 --> 00:12:58,567 victims of a hit and run. But I would have respected that more if he had chosen to 286 00:12:58,567 --> 00:13:00,233 use his own homeowner's insurance 287 00:13:00,233 --> 00:13:01,467 - as opposed to going - Right. 288 00:13:01,467 --> 00:13:04,500 after another victim. She wasn't at fault, and he knew that... 289 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:07,200 She really wasn't at fault. She really wasn't at fault. 290 00:13:07,633 --> 00:13:10,233 And as we discussed a moment ago. 291 00:13:10,233 --> 00:13:12,734 The suggestion that she should have gone into the, 292 00:13:12,734 --> 00:13:14,266 to the left, 293 00:13:14,266 --> 00:13:16,667 where there was oncoming traffic, 294 00:13:16,667 --> 00:13:19,066 rather than veering to the right and hit some thing... 295 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:21,633 - Yeah. - that was a stationary object... 296 00:13:21,633 --> 00:13:23,767 It was definitely the safer option, and in that split second moment... 297 00:13:23,767 --> 00:13:27,033 Yeah, she made... - She was lucky she made that decision. 298 00:13:27,033 --> 00:13:29,100 You never know, someone could have lost their life. 299 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:30,000 Right. 300 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,233 Case 2153, Fallis versus Maisenbach. All parties please step forward. 301 00:13:34,233 --> 00:13:38,433 Elizabeth Fallis is suing her former friend, 302 00:13:38,433 --> 00:13:42,967 {\an8}Kristi Maisenbach for two kayaks, and an assault. 303 00:13:42,967 --> 00:13:47,300 Miss Fallis, it is your claim... you and the defendant were friends? 304 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:49,367 Been friends for a while? Yes. 305 00:13:49,367 --> 00:13:51,433 Your allegations are twofold. 306 00:13:51,433 --> 00:13:55,367 {\an8}First, you say the defendant assaulted you after a party. 307 00:13:55,367 --> 00:13:56,300 {\an8}Mmm, yes. 308 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:59,000 You weren't injured as a result of that assault. 309 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,834 You didn't seek medical attention but, 310 00:14:00,834 --> 00:14:04,767 you said that you had some scratches and that she hit you. 311 00:14:04,767 --> 00:14:05,834 Yes. Okay. 312 00:14:07,700 --> 00:14:10,834 So she was on top of me. I was scratching, hitting, 313 00:14:10,834 --> 00:14:12,400 pull... just trying to get away. 314 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,934 I don't think she really remembers everything. 315 00:14:14,934 --> 00:14:16,734 And it just happened so fast. 316 00:14:16,734 --> 00:14:19,800 {\an8}But I was finally able to leave get out of the home with my daughter safely. 317 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,967 Okay, bad behavior. 318 00:14:20,967 --> 00:14:22,233 I agree. 319 00:14:22,233 --> 00:14:24,266 Bad behavior? Mmm. 320 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:38,934 Elizabeth Fallis claims her former friend, 321 00:14:38,934 --> 00:14:43,700 {\an8}Christie Kristi Maisenbach owes for two kayaks, and an assault. 322 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:45,433 There was no medical treatment. 323 00:14:45,433 --> 00:14:47,867 {\an8}There was some drinking that went on that night. 324 00:14:47,867 --> 00:14:50,300 {\an8}Yes. But the thrust of your complaint 325 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:55,533 {\an8}is that you gave the defendant two kayaks that you had purchased. 326 00:14:55,533 --> 00:14:57,033 - Correct. - Because the defendant 327 00:14:57,033 --> 00:15:00,600 has a piece of property, and you didn't have a place to store them. 328 00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:04,834 And you asked if you could store them at the defendant's home. 329 00:15:04,834 --> 00:15:06,533 Correct. She said "yes". 330 00:15:06,533 --> 00:15:11,333 You're no longer friends after this "kerfuffle" that took place after a party. 331 00:15:11,333 --> 00:15:14,033 - And you would like the two kayaks back. - Correct. 332 00:15:14,033 --> 00:15:15,400 When did you purchase them? 333 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,100 - I bought them on April 29, 2020. - From whom. 334 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:22,133 This lady and her mother were selling them on Facebook Marketplace. 335 00:15:22,133 --> 00:15:25,633 They were moving out of state and and her mom couldn't take them with her. 336 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:29,467 So, um, I have the messages of those two but I bought them on Facebook. 337 00:15:29,467 --> 00:15:33,066 And how much did you... - Um, $320. Or $350, sorry. 338 00:15:33,066 --> 00:15:34,867 For both of them or each? - For both of them. 339 00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:37,900 And when did you begin storing them at the defendant's? 340 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:40,967 I brought them over the next day after I bought them 341 00:15:40,967 --> 00:15:44,767 'cause I live in an upstairs apartment. I had nowhere to keep them. 342 00:15:44,767 --> 00:15:50,033 {\an8}So, she has a house that she lives in so it was a better situation for them. 343 00:15:50,033 --> 00:15:51,033 Where are you living now? 344 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:52,734 I still live in an upstairs apartment. 345 00:15:52,734 --> 00:15:54,100 Where are you going to put the kayaks? 346 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:55,433 I was planning on storage, 347 00:15:55,433 --> 00:15:58,834 or maybe find a family member who has a home to take them to. 348 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:01,266 But to basically probably buy a storage. 349 00:16:01,266 --> 00:16:04,433 That's pretty expensive to keep them in storage if... 350 00:16:05,133 --> 00:16:08,033 ...you paid $350 for the two of them two years ago. 351 00:16:08,033 --> 00:16:10,100 Have you used them in two years? 352 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:12,033 I bought them this year this April, 2022. 353 00:16:12,033 --> 00:16:13,800 Oh, 2022. - Sorry, yeah, '22. 354 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,066 Okay. Have you used them? 355 00:16:16,066 --> 00:16:18,834 {\an8}Yeah, I use them, I use them often with my daughter. 356 00:16:18,834 --> 00:16:19,967 {\an8}She's five and autistic. 357 00:16:19,967 --> 00:16:21,667 Have you used them with the defendant? 358 00:16:21,667 --> 00:16:23,867 - No. - Have you used the kayaks? 359 00:16:23,867 --> 00:16:26,200 Uh, personally I have not yet. I haven't had the chance to. 360 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,467 Just to say, you have not. 361 00:16:27,467 --> 00:16:28,934 I have not yet, no. 362 00:16:28,934 --> 00:16:31,300 Okay, you acknowledge the fact that the plaintiff, 363 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:32,500 who was then your friend, 364 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:34,066 brought them over for you to store. 365 00:16:34,066 --> 00:16:36,266 You're not friends anymore, she wants them back. 366 00:16:36,266 --> 00:16:37,300 Why not? 367 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:40,066 Um, so, I would like to kinda go back to the beginning. 368 00:16:40,066 --> 00:16:41,300 Where, like the assault happened. 369 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:42,734 Just so that you can kind of, like ex... uh... 370 00:16:42,734 --> 00:16:45,400 I'll, I'll get to this. The assault is, 371 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,066 the assault is not the important part of this case. 372 00:16:50,066 --> 00:16:52,333 Okay. Um, so the kayaks, 373 00:16:52,333 --> 00:16:55,667 {\an8}originally, it was a deal that if I was to keep them at my house 374 00:16:55,667 --> 00:16:57,100 {\an8}that we could both use them. 375 00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:59,867 When she wanted them back I just didn't necessarily feel like that was fair 376 00:16:59,867 --> 00:17:04,533 because the original agreement was that, um, they were kind of almost both ours. 377 00:17:04,533 --> 00:17:06,667 I just didn't have the opportunity to use them yet. 378 00:17:06,667 --> 00:17:08,100 Okay. All right. 379 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:10,500 Well, now you're not friends anymore. Now she wants them back. 380 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:13,500 So she's going to pick up the kayaks within five days. 381 00:17:14,066 --> 00:17:16,233 if you don't pick them up within five days... 382 00:17:18,433 --> 00:17:20,300 you're out of luck. Do you understand? 383 00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:21,567 - I understand. - Okay. 384 00:17:21,567 --> 00:17:24,667 Good, so within five days from todays date we'll prepare an order. 385 00:17:24,667 --> 00:17:26,567 You can pick up the kayaks. 386 00:17:26,567 --> 00:17:29,900 Now, you want to proceed with the assault part of your case? 387 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:31,200 Yes. Okay. 388 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,900 Show me pictures of what the injuries were that you sustained. 389 00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:37,900 I don't have any photos. I had a different phone at the time, and-- 390 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:39,667 Just a second. So you don't have any photos. 391 00:17:39,667 --> 00:17:40,967 Do you have any medical reports? 392 00:17:40,967 --> 00:17:42,333 I don't. Okay. 393 00:17:42,333 --> 00:17:45,867 This alleged assault happened on what date? 394 00:17:45,867 --> 00:17:48,533 Um, it was August 17th, 2022. 395 00:17:48,533 --> 00:17:52,333 Were you both out that night or were you having a party in a house? 396 00:17:52,333 --> 00:17:56,433 {\an8}So, how, what happened was her girlfriend had cheated on her and they broke up, and, 397 00:17:56,433 --> 00:17:59,166 {\an8}she invited me and a couple other friends to the home, 398 00:17:59,166 --> 00:18:01,734 where we were there, my daughter was also there, 399 00:18:01,734 --> 00:18:04,633 where we were hanging out, we were talking, 400 00:18:04,633 --> 00:18:08,166 trying to have a good time because she was having such a bad time. 401 00:18:08,166 --> 00:18:11,100 And, um, I ended up falling asleep at some point. 402 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:13,200 I went to go sleep with my daughter in the room. 403 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,166 Everybody had left, maybe around 12 P... 12 AM. 404 00:18:17,166 --> 00:18:19,967 And she came into the room wanting to talk, 405 00:18:19,967 --> 00:18:22,066 wanting someone to be there with her. 406 00:18:22,066 --> 00:18:23,066 Um, I was asleep. 407 00:18:23,066 --> 00:18:26,300 {\an8}I'm not a very happy person to be woken up, too. 408 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:28,967 {\an8}So, I told her "No, we'll talk in the morning". 409 00:18:28,967 --> 00:18:31,166 She wasn't okay with that. She started getting mad. 410 00:18:31,166 --> 00:18:33,834 So, she started getting upset, and my daughter was next to me. 411 00:18:33,834 --> 00:18:35,633 So it was like, "Well, then I'm gonna leave". 412 00:18:35,633 --> 00:18:37,133 And so I tried to walk out. 413 00:18:37,133 --> 00:18:39,166 She grabbed me, she threw me to the ground. 414 00:18:39,767 --> 00:18:42,734 Um, she's stronger than me. So, she was on top of me. 415 00:18:42,734 --> 00:18:46,200 I was scratching, hitting, pulling... trying to just get away. 416 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,700 My daughter was screaming and crying. 417 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:52,133 Um, she's autistic so she doesn't really understand what was going on, 418 00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:54,166 but she was highly upset. She was screaming "No!". 419 00:18:54,166 --> 00:18:59,333 And, I was eventually able to like, get up and try to leave. 420 00:18:59,333 --> 00:19:02,033 She followed me to the garage. Um... 421 00:19:02,033 --> 00:19:05,767 I just tried to push and push and tried to just get away from her, but, 422 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,066 I don't think she really remembers everything, and it just happened so fast. 423 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:14,033 But I was finally able to leave and get out of the home with my daughter safely. 424 00:19:14,033 --> 00:19:16,367 Okay, good. Okay, bad behavior. 425 00:19:17,033 --> 00:19:18,467 - Bad behavior. - I agree. 426 00:19:19,367 --> 00:19:20,767 - Bad behavior? - Mmm. 427 00:19:21,633 --> 00:19:24,100 Okay. 428 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:25,734 {\an8}I wish I had a photograph. 429 00:19:25,734 --> 00:19:29,233 Okay, within five days pick up your kayaks. 430 00:19:29,233 --> 00:19:30,500 Are we done here? 431 00:19:30,967 --> 00:19:32,667 Can I explain my end, or no? 432 00:19:32,667 --> 00:19:34,400 - What? - Can I explain my end, or no? 433 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,500 You did explain your end. 434 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:36,867 You said you didn't think it was fair 435 00:19:36,867 --> 00:19:38,934 when she wanted her kayaks back because 436 00:19:38,934 --> 00:19:41,233 "We were going to use them together". 437 00:19:41,233 --> 00:19:42,500 - Hmm. - But now you're not 438 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,934 going to use them together 'cause you don't like each other anymore. 439 00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:45,867 Hm-hmm. 440 00:19:45,867 --> 00:19:47,800 So, you're not going to use them together, 441 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,734 so she's gonna get 'em back. 442 00:19:48,734 --> 00:19:51,066 - All righty. - Great. Perfect, thank you. 443 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,567 This court is adjourned. 444 00:19:55,133 --> 00:19:58,834 {\an8}There is a lot more to the story than happened, but, unfortunately, 445 00:19:58,834 --> 00:20:02,333 {\an8}I guess, the best outcome would be to just go ahead and give her back the kayaks. 446 00:20:02,333 --> 00:20:03,633 {\an8}- So... - It shouldn't have gotten to this point. 447 00:20:03,633 --> 00:20:05,967 {\an8}I should have got them back after the incident. Should have... 448 00:20:05,967 --> 00:20:08,300 {\an8}We're adults. It should have went way smoother. 449 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:12,633 {\an8}There was a lot more, um, insult that happened, like on both ends. 450 00:20:12,633 --> 00:20:15,033 {\an8}Um, it wasn't necessarily the whole full truth. 451 00:20:15,033 --> 00:20:17,633 {\an8}I think she's just going through a lot, um. 452 00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:20,000 {\an8}With whatever she's going on with her ex, and just, 453 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,533 {\an8}I feel like it got taken out on me. 454 00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:25,400 {\an8}'Cause we were like sisters before and things just kinda... 455 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,934 {\an8}...you know, go south and unfortunately, 456 00:20:27,934 --> 00:20:30,333 {\an8}I, you know, we lost our friendship over that so... 457 00:20:30,333 --> 00:20:33,066 {\an8}We've been friends since middle school so I don't, 458 00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:34,300 {\an8}I don't know what the future holds, 459 00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:37,700 {\an8}but I hope maybe one day we can talk and we can work things out. 460 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:38,633 {\an8}Only time will tell. 461 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:42,433 I think probably the only thing that bothered me in that case 462 00:20:42,433 --> 00:20:47,333 was what the five year old was doing out at midnight at a party where people... 463 00:20:47,333 --> 00:20:50,166 - you know, at a gathering where people... - Yeah, a break up party. 464 00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:53,867 A break up, break up party. Easy case. 465 00:20:53,867 --> 00:20:55,166 Yeah. Easy. 466 00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:57,100 She paid for them. She gets them back. 467 00:20:57,467 --> 00:20:58,333 Yeah. Yeah. 468 00:20:59,967 --> 00:21:01,633 Are you the victim of an assault? 469 00:21:01,633 --> 00:21:04,200 Go to Judy Justice.tv