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There was an argument,
and it got nasty.
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And we were yelling at each other,
and then her wife got involved.
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She runs up and punched me in my face.
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She ran me over.
She attempted to run me over.
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Well, there's a difference
between running you over
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and trying to run you over.
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This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}Erica Martinez is suing
her cousin, Tina Archuleta,
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{\an8}and her wife Felicia Archuleta,
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for the balance of an RV and an assault.
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Court come to Order. All Rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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Case 2096.
Martinez versus Archuleta.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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Well, each of you are suing each other
for the hefty sum of $10,000.
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{\an8}Miss Martinez, you say
you were like a cousin
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{\an8}to one of these defendants.
Which one?
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Tina.
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That would be you?
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That would be me.
And your name is?
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Felicia Archuleta.
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- You live together?
- Yes.
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Are you married?
- Yes.
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It is your claim that Tina
purchased from you an old RV?
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- Yes.
- For $1000.
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That she currently
has possession of the RV.
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That she has not paid for the RV.
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And that when you went to their home
to collect the money for the RV,
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that one of them assaulted you?
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Both of them.
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The defendants say that the original
purchase price,
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which was $1000,
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was reduced because the RV
was not running.
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They paid you the $200.
Did you give her the $200?
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- I did.
- You did.
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And that was the day
that you took the RV?
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No!
When?
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That wasn't the day that I took it.
So what happened...
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No, no, no.
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You took the RV.
When did you give her the $200?
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{\an8}This was after I already had had it.
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{\an8}Did you ever get $200 from the defendants?
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No, I didn't.
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I received 160 from Tina.
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Okay.
So let's get back to the RV.
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How long did you have the RV?
And it was just sitting on your property.
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- Is that right?
- Right.
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How long have you had it?
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I've had the RV for about six years.
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What did you do with it?
Did you travel with it?
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I lived in it for about two months,
and then I parked it.
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- So it was running?
- Yes.
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But at the time you wanted
to get rid of it, it wasn't running?
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- No.
- Did you know what was wrong with it?
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Yes, the fuel pump was going bad in it,
so we had to replace that.
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But it didn't start.
They had to have it towed?
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Right.
Tina towed it?
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Right.
Back to their property?
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- Yes, they did.
- Okay.
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So when they took it, the agreement
was that they were to pay you how much?
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A thousand dollars.
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And you acknowledge
that you were supposed to pay $1000?
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- Yes.
- Did you get the title at that time?
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Not at that time she...
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- You did not?
- No.
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Is that correct?
At the time that they took the RV
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and had it towed,
they gave you no money?
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They gave me no money.
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- Subsequently, they gave you $160?
- Correct.
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According to you.
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And tell me under what circumstances
they gave you the $160? Tina did.
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{\an8}I went over to their house and they
handed, gave me the money in hand.
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Okay.
And what did you give them?
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Well, they had the RV given,
um, the title given to them
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the day that they took the RV.
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And then $160?
Mm-hmm.
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- Did she ever give you any other money?
- No.
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Now, when did you go over,
according to you, to the property
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to get the rest of the money?
And tell me what happened, what date?
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It was August 27th, in the evening.
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I called Tina and told her
I was on my way.
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I went over to her property and I...
You drove?
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I drove my car to her property,
and Felicia was outside loading the phone.
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That's Felicia?
Correct.
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- That's you.
- And so I asked her, "Where is Tina?"
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She says, "She is inside."
I said, "Well, can you call her?"
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So she called Tina on her phone.
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So Tina came out, and she comes
up to me and says, "What's up?"
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And I said, "I'm here to get my money."
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And Tina tells me,
"No, you're not getting nothing.
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{\an8}I told you you're gonna get it
when I have it."
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{\an8}I said, "No, that is not the deal.
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I want all my money,
or I'm taking the RV."
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Now, I have text messages that show that,
about the RV,
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about her saying,
"Well, if it's gonna be such a problem,
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you come pick up the RV and your title."
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"No you're gonna...
I'm coming to have it picked up tonight.
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You need to make sure
that you know not to touch it."
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Who was living in the RV
at the time?
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I had my friends in there that were
helping me try to get it started.
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So friends of yours
were living in the RV? Okay, go ahead.
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Okay, and so I told her
that I was gonna throw them out
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because she has not paid me for my RV.
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And then in the texts she also replies
that, "Well, if I wanted to be grimy,
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I got the title and I could go ahead
and keep it."
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- And I do have proof of that.
- I would like to see those texts.
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Here's the proof.
Here you go.
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There's some more.
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Those ones.
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Well, you acknowledge in the texts
back and forth that you owe her $800.
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Yeah, I never said I didn't.
The thing is...
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Okay.
- Can I tell you one thing?
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All I'm asking is you acknowledge
that you owe her $800?
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Mm-hmm.
Okay.
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{\an8}I told Tina, I'm done with it all.
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{\an8}I'm gonna make sure that I have someone
pick up the RV tonight.
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{\an8}And she got upset, screamed,
"No, you're not. It's a done deal."
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{\an8}"No, it's not." And I said,
"I'm getting my RV tonight."
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{\an8}You chose not to do this shower?
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{\an8}Well, it's not that I didn't choose
not to do it is,
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{\an8}she went to Twitter and threatened
to beat, uh, butt.
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{\an8}And I don't, I'm not doing
business if you wanna fight me.
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Erica Martinez
claims her cousin, Tina Archuleta,
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{\an8}and her wife, Felicia Archuleta,
owe for the balance of an RV.
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Tina and Felicia are countersuing
for slander and an assault.
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Okay, so I have $800 balance
for the RV.
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Now you wanna tell me about this alleged
assault, which according to you,
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{\an8}is worth another $9,000?
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{\an8}Well, yes, well.
As I was speaking with Tina
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about it after that, me and her
were going back and forth.
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And we were yelling at each other
and then her wife got involved
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and I told her,
"You need to stay ahead of it."
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{\an8}And then I told Tina,
"I'm done with it all."
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{\an8}You know, I'm going back.
I'm gonna make sure that I have someone
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pick up the RV tonight.
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And she got upset, screamed,
"No, you're not, it's done deal."
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No, it's not.
You're not doing this.
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And I said, "Yes, I am.
I'm getting my RV tonight."
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And then I went, turned around,
went into my car.
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Uh, Felicia says, you ain't getting no...
Spit on me from the passenger side.
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And Tina goes, runs up and punched me
in my face and my glasses flew this way.
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And that's when I told her,
that's it, she's in trouble now.
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And so that's...
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- Do you have a police report on that?
- I do.
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And photographs?
Do you have any medical record?
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I do got the medical records,
they're right here.
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Okay, this is standard fare.
It doesn't give me...
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It shows that I did go to the doctors
two days after
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because I was having migraines.
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That's why I'm not understanding
it because it doesn't make sense.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
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Do you have photographs
of your alleged injury to your face?
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No, I have the police reports,
but it takes 15 days for that...
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Just a second.
All I'm asking you is,
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you don't have medical records
of the day of this injury.
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{\an8}You had a headache. Two days later,
you went to the hospital.
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{\an8}So this is useless to me.
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{\an8}You don't have photos of your injury,
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and you don't have a police report,
is that what you're telling me?
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I do have the police number for it,
but I don't have the report on me.
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Well, no. Okay.
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So far they owe you $800.
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Now you have a counterclaim
'cause you acknowledge you owed her $800.
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You have a counterclaim for harassment,
slander, and assault.
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Who are you alleging
the plaintiff assaulted?
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- Can I, can I go back to something?
- No.
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Who are you alleging
the plaintiff assaulted?
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That would be you, that's Felicia.
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How did the plaintiff assault you?
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- She ran me over.
- She tried to run her over.
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Tried to run me over.
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Just, well, there's a difference
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between running you over
and trying to run you over.
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{\an8}Did she run you over
or did she attempt to run you over?
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{\an8}- She attempted to run me over.
- Okay.
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So that at best
would be an attempted assault?
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Yes.
So you suffered no injuries?
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- No.
- Okay.
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- Do you have any police report?
- I do, Your Honor.
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Indicating that you told the police
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on that date that she attempted
to run you over?
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This is the one where she says,
where she tried to run my wife over.
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Okay. I'd like to see it, please.
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This is the original...
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No, no, I don't.
That's all I want.
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Okay, so it says,
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"I told her to start the truck up
and move her car because I was leaving,
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and she was behind us still arguing.
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So she put it in gear
and tried to hit my wife.
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Is that what you're talking about?
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- Mm-hmm.
- Okay.
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Did you suffer any injuries?
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- No, Your Honor, I did not.
- Okay.
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So, this case is a very simple one.
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- And then, Your Honor...
- Tina, the case is a very simple one.
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You owe her $800
for the balance of the RV,
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which you acknowledge in your texts.
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The only other part that you have
is for slander.
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Now you say that in your cross complaint
the plaintiff has slandered you.
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I'd like to see the evidence that you have
that she has slandered you.
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May I see it, please?
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This isn't slander.
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I mean, like she calls you nasty names,
but sticks and stones.
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And she says, "They wouldn't pay me
for my stuff, my RV and so forth."
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That's not slander.
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Can I say one thing?
I need to get out there because,
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originally she, the first thing
before even doing any of this,
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she wanted a puppy.
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{\an8}And that's where all this title
and everything came from.
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She wanted a puppy.
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I read that.
And then she changed her mind.
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Yeah, and that's how we got the title.
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I don't care.
You owe her $800.
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- You acknowledge in your text messages...
- I try to keep the peace.
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Listen to me. I don't care.
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You acknowledged that you owed her $800,
the balance of the $1000 for the RV.
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She came to try to get it.
There was an argument, and it got nasty.
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You owe her, Tina, the $800 that you
agreed to pay her, the balance of the RV.
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Judgement for the plaintiff.
Counterclaims dismissed. We're done.
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This court is adjourned.
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{\an8}- No, I don't like it.
- I'm very happy with it.
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{\an8}She wanted a dog,
that's why she gave me the title.
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{\an8}She had asked me if I wanted a puppy,
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{\an8}but she said that she'd
make a deal with me
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{\an8}and only charge me 1,200,
which she changed her words
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{\an8}and it was 1,500,
so I did not get the puppy.
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{\an8}I tried to keep the peace and say,
oh, okay, I'll pay, I'll pay you,
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{\an8}after she changed her mind.
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{\an8}- Ah, she's a good liar.
- She's just a liar.
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{\an8}I don't care,
she needs money more than I do.
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{\an8}I honestly think it's ridiculous.
We should never have to come to this.
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{\an8}- It's a shame. Family.
- It's all good.
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{\an8}No more family for sure.
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This case was another great example
of why it's so important,
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especially with family and friends.
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If you're gonna sell something of value,
to have it in writing.
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People assume with strangers,
oh, of course,
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I should have a writing
when I'm selling something.
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But when it's to a friend or a family
member, that gift and loan line
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are very close together.
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And a writing proves to this court
very easily which one of the two it is.
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So I think that that's a great takeaway
from cases like these.
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It is, it's a great takeaway.
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I've always said that when you apply
for a marriage license,
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you know, usually they just have to show
your citizenship, date of birth.
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But I actually think that a marriage
license should include all the property
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that you claim as separate property.
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- Yeah.
- Wouldn't that be easy?
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It would do away with probably 30% or 40%
of the divorce proceedings
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that become acrimonious
because you sort of lay it out.
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So I think that, really,
a writing is always important
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because at the time you usually happy
with each other,
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at the time that you're contesting
that say you're not so happy.
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So, if you have a writing
or if you have a license,
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it makes everybody's job,
and your stress level, reduced.
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Mm-hmm.
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And I'm all about reducing
my stress level.
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Of course.
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Case 2150, Thomas/Williams
versus Gilmore.
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All parties, please step forward.
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Diamon Thomas
and Rumby Williams
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{\an8}are suing Rumby's former friend,
Shamia Gilmore,
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for a deposit and the cost of a brunch.
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- Diamon, this is your boyfriend?
- Yes.
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And you were planning a baby shower?
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- It was actually a sip-and-see for her.
- What is that?
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So, it's like, um, family and friends
weren't allowed to really come
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to the hospital,
so we decided to have a little event
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after the baby turned six weeks.
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Okay, so that was October 22nd?
Yes.
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You hired Ms. Gilmore as the caterer
of that little event.
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She gave, quoted you a price of $500
to cater the event.
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- And you gave her a $250 deposit.
- Correct.
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Then some stuff bothered you a little bit
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{\an8}because you, according to what I read,
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{\an8}you found some either text messages
or whatever between the defendant
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and boyfriend, which you felt
were a little too cozy by her.
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- Yes.
- And you gave her a buzz.
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And you sort of had it out with her.
"I don't want you to do this anymore."
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Whatever, anyway, you called her back
and said, "Yes, I want you to do it."
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She ended up not doing this sip-and-see.
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And she finally called you and said,
"I'm not doing it."
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"I don't like the attitude,
I'm not doing it."
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And you said, fine, give me
my $250 back. She said no.
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So you're suing her for not only
your deposit back, $250.
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You did hire other people
to cater the event.
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No, we did it ourselves.
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And you want her to pay $1025
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'cause you said that that's what it cost
you over and above 250 plus the rest.
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Yes.
- Well, that you can't have.
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{\an8}An offer and acceptance and a meeting
of the minds, that was the contract.
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{\an8}That doesn't have to be in writing.
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{\an8}We have a verbal agreement
via Instagram.
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That's what I just said.
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{\an8}- So it is in writing.
- Who cares?
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Diamon Thomas
and Rumby Williams
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claim Rumby's former friend,
Shamia Gilmore,
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{\an8}owe for a deposit
and the cost of a brunch.
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Okay, you are gonna tell me
you chose not to do this shower?
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{\an8}You chose not to do it?
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{\an8}Well, it's not that I didn't choose
not to do it, is she went to Twitter,
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and threatened
to beat, uh, butt.
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And I don't, I'm not doing business
if you wanna fight me.
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Okay.
- It doesn't make sense.
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Okay.
Well, I don't blame you.
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If she went to Twitter and said something
nasty about you,
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then I wouldn't do her baby shower,
sip-and-see, whatever they call it.
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I wouldn't do it either.
Then you have to give her back her 250.
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Well, I offered, I bought items
for the brunch already.
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I offered the mimosa bar back
and I offered 125 back.
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{\an8}She wants the whole thing.
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{\an8}If I already spent money out my pocket,
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{\an8}there's no way you think I'm gonna give
you a whole 250.
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- That doesn't make sense.
- Well, just a second. Okay.
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Let me see what she wrote
about you on Twitter.
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And also, Judge...
Ssh!
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So what you're saying
is you actually made a purchase?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Okay, you have proof of that purchase
that you made?
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I have the mimosa bar.
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I don't have it with me,
but I didn't print anything off.
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I don't even know what that is.
What is a mimosa bar?
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So it's where you put the mimosa
glasses on, it's a grass wall,
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but it has where you hang the cups up
at on the wall with the mimosa glasses,
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like the champagne flutes that you put
on the wall, and then it has...
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Have you used that before
when you catered?
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No, I bought one before,
but I still have it brand new.
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Just a second. Have you used it before?
You're a caterer?
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Yes, ma'am.
How many times?
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Quite a few.
How many?
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Two hands, maybe seven or eight times.
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Okay, and you buy a new one each time
you use it?
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- Yes, ma'am, I let them keep it.
- Ssh, just a second you let them keep it?
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Well, now you can keep this one
and use it next time.
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Okay.
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Ma'am, and I would like to say something
about the 950 that she owe us.
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{\an8}We gave her a deposit of 250. Right.
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{\an8}And she is claiming that we had made
anything threatening towards her.
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No, just a second.
- And she canceled on us.
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And so I feel that we didn't have
enough ample time
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to be able to find another caterer.
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There's no...
Well, that's too bad.
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- Can I ask why?
- Absolutely.
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Because you're entitled
to your money back.
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But your contract was for her to do
a party, which she ended up not doing.
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Can we see the contract?
'Cause I don't...
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No, you haven't...
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- We don't have the contract.
- Yes, you do. You had an agreement.
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She was going to do an event for you
on October 22nd.
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You agreed for her to do the event
for you on October 22nd,
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and you gave her a $250 deposit.
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That's a contract.
It's an oral contract.
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You had an offer, you had an acceptance,
that's a contract.
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An offer, an acceptance,
and a meeting of the minds.
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She was going to do the event for 500,
you paid her 250.
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That was the contract.
That doesn't have to be in writing.
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We have a verbal agreement via Instagram.
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That's what I just said.
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- So it is in writing.
- Who cares?
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Well, it was the point that,
how are we supposed to be compensated
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for everything that we had to do
after she canceled on us.
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00:18:16,633 --> 00:18:19,467
Well, you have to grow up.
You have a baby? Right?
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- Yes.
- Is this your only baby?
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Yes.
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Great, you have a baby.
You have to grow up.
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00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:27,567
"I grew up so much, the old me
would have beat out one of you."
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- What is that?
- I'm not sure what...
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Would you show this to the plaintiff.
I'm just curious.
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She's gonna give you back
your 250 anyway.
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She chose not to do the event.
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What?
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I don't know what that is.
I'm showing it to you.
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She gave me to show me something
that you wrote.
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You want me to read this,
or you want me to say it was...
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No, I'm just asking you
if you were the author of that.
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Yes.
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And who did you write it about?
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It was just a general statement.
It wasn't about anybody in particular.
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Okay, give that back.
Very, very easy.
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Your baby nice?
You're happy with your baby?
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- Yes.
- Very good.
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You have nothing
to do with her anymore?
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- No.
- Good. You have a mimosa wall.
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Use it for another event.
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Judgment for the plaintiff
in the amount of 250.
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We're done here. Thank you very much.
This court is adjourned.
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{\an8}I don't agree with the judge's decision.
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{\an8}I'm satisfied with the 250 and knowing
that Shamia was wrong to keep our deposit
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{\an8}after she canceled on us.
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{\an8}it's just a lot of mess.
I won't do business with them ever again.
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{\an8}It is what it is.
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{\an8}If she felt some type of way,
that's on her.
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{\an8}I'm gonna keep rolling up
what I'm doing.
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We just won't ever do business
with her again
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{\an8}'cause she is very unprofessional,
just like the Tweet said.
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Do you know what's an exciting day?
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When, at my age,
you learn something new.
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- We learn a lot of new things here.
- We learn a lot of new things here.
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So, I've just about mastered
the engagement party,
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the wedding, bar mitzvahs, bat mitzvahs,
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, christenings, baptisms,
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baby showers, if I haven't mentioned that,
anniversary parties.
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But this is the first time I ever heard
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that expression, a "sip-and-see."
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00:20:01,166 --> 00:20:02,800
Yeah, I think it's a new thing.
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00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,200
I think COVID probably played
a role in it about people
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00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,800
not wanting to have big parties
or interact with large numbers of people,
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especially before giving birth,
with all the hospital requirements.
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So, I like the idea.
I've only been to one or two,
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but the idea is you wait for your child
to be about six weeks old
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so they've been vaccinated and...
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they're not vaccinated
when they are six weeks.
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Well, the first round of baby shots.
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And then they're able to see family
and have a baby shower
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where the baby is included. So...
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I'll add it to my list of...
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I'll see if I could find one
for you to go to.
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I'll see.
Thank you.
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