1 00:00:00,367 --> 00:00:03,367 {\an8}It all started over a parking space. 2 00:00:03,367 --> 00:00:05,667 She's called the police over this multiple times. 3 00:00:05,667 --> 00:00:07,533 Mine was parked there first. 4 00:00:07,533 --> 00:00:08,600 Who cares? 5 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,533 There is no entitlement to park right in front of your house. 6 00:00:12,533 --> 00:00:14,266 It's a public street! 7 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:16,767 I don't care if you park on Mars. 8 00:00:16,767 --> 00:00:19,266 [announcer] This is Judy Justice. 9 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:42,100 {\an8}Lynette Hernandez is suing her neighbors, Pamela Jackson and Ashley Jackson 10 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:46,367 for filing false CPS reports, and defamation of character. 11 00:00:46,367 --> 00:00:48,633 [Kevin] Court come to order. All rise. 12 00:00:49,967 --> 00:00:50,967 Have a seat, please. 13 00:00:53,433 --> 00:00:56,300 Case 2176. Hernandez v. Jackson. 14 00:00:56,300 --> 00:00:57,367 - [Judy] Thank you. - [Kevin] You're welcome. 15 00:00:57,367 --> 00:01:01,300 Ms. Hernandez, you and the defendants are neighbors. 16 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:03,200 - Yes. - You more recently moved 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,900 into the neighborhood? 18 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:08,333 Yes, on February 25th of 2022. 19 00:01:08,333 --> 00:01:09,934 And you've been living there for about a year. 20 00:01:09,934 --> 00:01:11,033 Year and a half. 21 00:01:11,033 --> 00:01:13,233 [Judy] I have complaints and cross-complaints. 22 00:01:13,233 --> 00:01:15,800 Each one of your are claiming that the other is guilty of harassment. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,133 The defendant, in addition to the harassment, 24 00:01:18,133 --> 00:01:21,700 says that there was an assault on... that would be on you? 25 00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:23,233 - Me. - ...on you, by the plaintiff. 26 00:01:23,233 --> 00:01:24,300 Yes. 27 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:26,233 [Judy] And false police reports. 28 00:01:26,233 --> 00:01:28,767 {\an8}Reports to child welfare administration. 29 00:01:28,767 --> 00:01:32,567 Each one of you is requesting serious damages as a result 30 00:01:32,567 --> 00:01:34,734 of this ongoing harassment and assault. 31 00:01:34,734 --> 00:01:38,400 And I gather from reading the papers that when you moved in, 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,667 the whole bad feeling between neighbors started because of a parking space. 33 00:01:43,667 --> 00:01:45,500 - [Judy] Would that be correct? - Correct. 34 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:48,033 - So your car is the white car. - [Lynette] Correct. 35 00:01:48,033 --> 00:01:52,533 Tell me about the problem, when you first moved in, with the car. 36 00:01:52,533 --> 00:01:54,100 And go over to the chart. 37 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:55,200 Okay. 38 00:01:56,166 --> 00:01:58,166 So a month after I moved in, 39 00:01:58,166 --> 00:02:01,233 I politely asked Pamela if she-- 40 00:02:01,233 --> 00:02:04,000 Just a sec. Pamela, that would be you? 41 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,266 - Yes. - [Judy] Your last name is Jackson. 42 00:02:06,266 --> 00:02:07,834 {\an8}- Yes. - [Judy] Okay. 43 00:02:07,834 --> 00:02:09,900 {\an8}So you asked Ms. Jackson, 44 00:02:09,900 --> 00:02:13,200 {\an8}whose car is the car parked in front of yours? 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,100 - Yes, this one. - [Judy] Okay. 46 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:17,066 So you said to Ms. Jackson... go ahead. 47 00:02:17,066 --> 00:02:19,734 I told her if she could please scoot up. 48 00:02:19,734 --> 00:02:22,266 We were both pulling in at the same time. 49 00:02:22,266 --> 00:02:26,934 We were coming back at the same time, so I thought I could politely ask her 50 00:02:26,934 --> 00:02:28,033 if she could just scoot up. 51 00:02:28,033 --> 00:02:30,300 [Judy] I don't know what that means, and perhaps other people do. 52 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:33,000 But I don't. You asked her to move her car? 53 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,066 Yes, just a little bit forward, because on the handicap, 54 00:02:36,066 --> 00:02:38,433 the yellow line ends right there. 55 00:02:38,433 --> 00:02:40,533 No, no, see, look at me. You asked her to-- 56 00:02:40,533 --> 00:02:42,300 I see a handicapped sign. 57 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:44,266 So you asked her to move up. 58 00:02:44,266 --> 00:02:45,834 - [Lynette] Yes. - [Judy] Why? 59 00:02:45,834 --> 00:02:49,233 Because she parks so further back, 60 00:02:49,233 --> 00:02:51,333 and when the neighbors park back there, 61 00:02:51,333 --> 00:02:54,967 I have to, like, parallel park, and sometimes I'm in a rush. 62 00:02:54,967 --> 00:02:58,567 So I just, you know, want to just get out to go to work, 63 00:02:58,567 --> 00:03:00,266 or to drop the kids off to school. 64 00:03:00,266 --> 00:03:03,000 So you don't like to parallel park. 65 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,433 I do, but sometimes it's too-- 66 00:03:05,433 --> 00:03:09,367 I just wanted to politely ask her if she could just scoot up a little bit, 67 00:03:09,367 --> 00:03:11,400 because she has a bunch of space in the front. 68 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,100 Well, I... I don't see a whole bunch of space. 69 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:17,000 What is handicap? 70 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,333 Where is that handicapped spot? 71 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,867 - Right here in front of her house. - [Judy] Right there. 72 00:03:22,867 --> 00:03:24,567 You have a handicapped sign? 73 00:03:24,567 --> 00:03:27,433 {\an8}When I moved in, I was told I could park there-- 74 00:03:27,433 --> 00:03:29,233 {\an8}- [Judy] Just a second. - No, I do not. 75 00:03:29,233 --> 00:03:31,400 {\an8}[Judy] You do not. So you shouldn't be parking there anyway. 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,467 I was told I could, because that was the old sign. 77 00:03:33,467 --> 00:03:36,166 That's why they dismissed the ticket that she called to get 78 00:03:36,166 --> 00:03:38,367 - when I didn't move my car. - [Judy] Just a second. 79 00:03:38,367 --> 00:03:41,367 You can't tell me what somebody else said. There's a handicapped sign. 80 00:03:41,367 --> 00:03:42,633 I went to the police department marshal. 81 00:03:42,633 --> 00:03:45,033 Do you have something from the police department, 82 00:03:45,033 --> 00:03:47,266 indicating that you can park in a handicapped spot? 83 00:03:47,266 --> 00:03:50,433 No. They removed it the next day and dismissed it because of that. 84 00:03:50,433 --> 00:03:53,033 Just a second. Is the sign still there? 85 00:03:53,033 --> 00:03:54,967 - No. They removed it immediately. - [Judy] Okay. 86 00:03:54,967 --> 00:03:58,166 - Fine. So the sign was removed. - Yes. 87 00:03:58,166 --> 00:04:02,967 And what is that alleyway where the trashcan is? 88 00:04:02,967 --> 00:04:06,300 That's the driveway for the next-door neighbor's... 89 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:08,233 - House. Just a second. - Mm-hmm. 90 00:04:08,233 --> 00:04:13,333 So that what she's doing in parking her car there 91 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:15,500 is permitting the trashcans, 92 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:18,300 which are supposed to be out into the street, right? 93 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:19,667 Point to the trashcan. 94 00:04:19,667 --> 00:04:21,433 - Yes, right here. - So the trashcan 95 00:04:21,433 --> 00:04:23,433 is supposed to be out in the street. 96 00:04:23,433 --> 00:04:28,533 In order to get back to the house, somebody who lives in that back house 97 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:33,266 has to pull all the way around the trashcan and her car 98 00:04:33,266 --> 00:04:34,867 if she moves her car up. 99 00:04:34,867 --> 00:04:36,300 - Your Honor-- - [Judy] It makes it... 100 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:39,667 It makes it that much more difficult for the person who lives behind. 101 00:04:39,667 --> 00:04:43,300 I understand. For trash day, it's understandable. 102 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:44,834 [Judy] I don't care. She doesn't-- 103 00:04:44,834 --> 00:04:47,233 You have to understand, Ms. Hernandez, 104 00:04:47,233 --> 00:04:50,533 that she doesn't have to accommodate you so that you don't have to parallel park. 105 00:04:50,533 --> 00:04:54,066 Mm-hmm. I just thought I could ask her politely, 106 00:04:54,066 --> 00:04:57,300 - and I didn't think it was gonna be-- - Well, okay, so let's go back a second. 107 00:04:57,300 --> 00:04:59,133 - Mm-hmm. - [Judy] Now you can go back. 108 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:02,333 So that's what started the trouble. You said "politely." 109 00:05:02,333 --> 00:05:04,066 Tell me exactly what you said to her. 110 00:05:04,066 --> 00:05:09,567 Tell me exactly what you said to her, and you said that that happened in March. 111 00:05:09,567 --> 00:05:11,600 {\an8}- Go ahead. - I asked her, I said, 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,934 {\an8}"Excuse me, can you please scoot up a little bit 113 00:05:13,934 --> 00:05:15,633 {\an8}so that I can parallel park?" 114 00:05:15,633 --> 00:05:17,734 - There was no trash-- - [Judy] Now just a sec. I don't care. 115 00:05:17,734 --> 00:05:20,600 Trash, no trash, she doesn't have to figure, 116 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,066 "Monday, Wednesday, and Friday I have to scoot up my car, 117 00:05:23,066 --> 00:05:25,166 because she doesn't like to parallel park." 118 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Do you understand? 119 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,734 Trash day Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 120 00:05:29,734 --> 00:05:33,700 Recycling Tuesday and Thursday, but not every week. Every other week. 121 00:05:33,700 --> 00:05:38,133 So I have to remember to scoot up so that my young neighbor 122 00:05:38,133 --> 00:05:40,266 doesn't have to parallel park. 123 00:05:40,266 --> 00:05:43,300 It's ridiculous. Okay... It's ridiculous 124 00:05:43,300 --> 00:05:45,266 - Is that the way she asked you? - No. 125 00:05:45,266 --> 00:05:47,367 - [Judy] What did she say? - The way she told me was, 126 00:05:47,367 --> 00:05:50,667 "Ma'am, I would appreciate if you would just move around and park in the back." 127 00:05:50,667 --> 00:05:52,800 - Now, the alleyway-- - [Judy] Now just a second. 128 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,333 Let's go slowly. "Ma'am..." 129 00:05:55,333 --> 00:05:58,066 So she said, "Ma'am, can you... I would appreciate 130 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:00,734 {\an8}if you would please move around to the back alleyway. 131 00:06:00,734 --> 00:06:03,033 {\an8}I need parking for all my friends and family." 132 00:06:03,033 --> 00:06:04,834 No. Not true. 133 00:06:04,834 --> 00:06:06,033 Your Honor, that's not true. 134 00:06:06,033 --> 00:06:07,200 No, I don't believe that. 135 00:06:10,367 --> 00:06:12,200 {\an8}Sarah, I don't know what this... 136 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,500 {\an8}[Sarah] You don't have to keep hitting it. That's the whole video. 137 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:17,033 {\an8}Thank you. If I hit it, maybe I hit it on the table. 138 00:06:17,033 --> 00:06:18,934 {\an8}Yeah, I don't think so. That only works with your phone. 139 00:06:18,934 --> 00:06:20,967 {\an8}- It only works on my phone? - Yeah. 140 00:06:20,967 --> 00:06:22,333 {\an8}Fresh mouth. 141 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:24,133 {\an8}[spectators laugh] 142 00:06:33,266 --> 00:06:37,667 {\an8}[announcer] Lynette Hernandez claims her neighbor, Pamela Jackson, 143 00:06:37,767 --> 00:06:40,934 {\an8}filed false CPS reports and defamed her. 144 00:06:40,934 --> 00:06:43,934 Pamela is countersuing for an assault. 145 00:06:43,934 --> 00:06:45,700 [Judy] Okay, she asked you to move. 146 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:48,133 And you said to her, your response to her, was, "It's a public street." 147 00:06:48,233 --> 00:06:49,333 "I'll park where I want to park." 148 00:06:49,333 --> 00:06:52,033 I tried to explain to her I have arthritis. 149 00:06:52,033 --> 00:06:56,533 So if you'll see, I park where I can walk around my car and go up the walkway. 150 00:06:56,533 --> 00:06:58,867 I don't care. You don't have to justify it to me. 151 00:06:58,867 --> 00:07:00,533 I'm just-- I asked you the question. 152 00:07:00,533 --> 00:07:02,100 You responded what? 153 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:03,467 What did you...? 154 00:07:03,467 --> 00:07:05,934 The way I responded was for-- 155 00:07:05,934 --> 00:07:09,133 Think. If you don't remember, say, "I don't remember." 156 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:10,367 Don't make it up. 157 00:07:10,367 --> 00:07:13,000 I remember, because I've stated this the whole time. 158 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Every time, even the police have sat there and asked 159 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,700 why I park there, because she's called the police over this multiple times. 160 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:20,767 {\an8}I have even explained to them, I park the way I do-- 161 00:07:20,767 --> 00:07:22,967 {\an8}- [Judy] No, I want you to tell me... - I told her, I says, 162 00:07:22,967 --> 00:07:25,667 "I'm older, I have arthritis." 163 00:07:25,667 --> 00:07:28,934 "I park where I do to be able to use my walkway." 164 00:07:28,934 --> 00:07:32,834 Her response was, "You'll have a better access to your walkway if you pull up." 165 00:07:32,834 --> 00:07:35,967 I said, "No, the person on my passenger side would." 166 00:07:35,967 --> 00:07:37,834 "Then I have to go up on the grass." 167 00:07:37,834 --> 00:07:40,600 - No. - I need the walkway for stability, 168 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,100 because I've already had one fall. 169 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:43,166 [Judy] Okay, whatever. 170 00:07:43,166 --> 00:07:45,066 You told her, "I can't accommodate you." 171 00:07:45,066 --> 00:07:46,967 - Yes. - [Lynette] Your Honor, that's not true. 172 00:07:46,967 --> 00:07:48,166 They didn't take that long. 173 00:07:48,166 --> 00:07:50,734 She got in her car, and she actually got in, 174 00:07:50,734 --> 00:07:51,900 and she scooted up. 175 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:53,500 - [Judy] And she moved up a little bit. - She moved up, 176 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:56,033 because the trashcan wasn't there. 177 00:07:56,033 --> 00:07:58,300 Okay, so you asked her, "Ma'am, could you move up a little bit?" 178 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:01,133 And she... So what you're telling me is she accommodated you. 179 00:08:01,133 --> 00:08:03,333 {\an8}- She did. - [Judy] And she didn't say anything. 180 00:08:03,333 --> 00:08:04,867 {\an8}So I thought it was okay. 181 00:08:04,867 --> 00:08:06,066 {\an8}And then what happened? 182 00:08:06,066 --> 00:08:08,033 [Lynette] And then, whenever I was parking, 183 00:08:08,033 --> 00:08:09,633 I got off and I told her, I was like, "Thank you." 184 00:08:09,633 --> 00:08:11,333 And then that's when she got upset. 185 00:08:11,333 --> 00:08:13,200 [Judy] No, no, no, no, no. 186 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,367 In March, what you're saying is you asked her to scoot up. 187 00:08:17,834 --> 00:08:19,867 - And she did. - And she did. 188 00:08:19,867 --> 00:08:23,667 When was the next date that something happened with the car? 189 00:08:23,667 --> 00:08:26,066 April 6th, she called the cops for the first time 190 00:08:26,066 --> 00:08:28,767 because she parked-- That's how she parked. 191 00:08:28,767 --> 00:08:32,200 She parked very close to my car, as you can see on the picture. 192 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,300 She started parking close to me like that. 193 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:36,900 - She called the cops for the first time. - [Judy] Just a second. 194 00:08:36,900 --> 00:08:39,934 - That photograph was taken April 6th? - [Lynette] Yes, ma'am. 195 00:08:39,934 --> 00:08:41,800 - Of 2022? - Yes, ma'am. 196 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,100 [Judy] Okay, and you were parked right in front of your house? 197 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:46,500 - [Lynette] Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] First. 198 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:49,367 And she parked in front of you? 199 00:08:49,367 --> 00:08:51,433 - Correct. - [Judy] And you're telling me 200 00:08:51,433 --> 00:08:53,200 that she called the police? 201 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,867 - Correct. - [Judy] Is that correct? 202 00:08:54,867 --> 00:08:56,033 - No. - [Judy] Okay. 203 00:08:56,033 --> 00:08:59,000 Show me that she called the police on April 6th. 204 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,166 - [Pamela] Uh, she-- - Shh! 205 00:09:00,166 --> 00:09:02,867 [Lynette] She called the police, and then she was telling them-- 206 00:09:02,867 --> 00:09:04,433 [Judy] No, no, no, no. 207 00:09:04,433 --> 00:09:06,100 Don't tell me what she was telling them. 208 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:08,567 I want to see where she called the police on April 6th. 209 00:09:08,567 --> 00:09:10,600 She said she didn't. Is that what you just said? 210 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,233 I called the police. I'm not the one that parked. 211 00:09:13,233 --> 00:09:16,433 I was already parked there when she pulled up on me. 212 00:09:16,433 --> 00:09:19,300 I called the police because she tapped my back end 213 00:09:19,300 --> 00:09:20,767 before she pulled back. 214 00:09:20,767 --> 00:09:23,266 - Incorrect. - So you were parked there already. 215 00:09:23,266 --> 00:09:27,166 {\an8}I was already there, and this has been an ongoing issue for months. 216 00:09:27,166 --> 00:09:30,633 {\an8}She would pull up on me, and sometimes tap my bumper. 217 00:09:30,633 --> 00:09:32,767 - [Judy] And you were in the car? - [Pamela] I wasn't in the car. 218 00:09:32,767 --> 00:09:36,300 - I was inside. - So you just saw her park close to you. 219 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:38,834 - I saw her tap my bumper. - [Judy] Okay. 220 00:09:38,834 --> 00:09:41,633 - And that's when you called the police? - [Pamela] Yes. 221 00:09:41,633 --> 00:09:42,867 - [Judy] Okay. - And she knew, 222 00:09:42,867 --> 00:09:45,000 because she was recording me calling them. 223 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,900 - [Judy] Do you have that? - [Pamela] It's even on her TikTok. 224 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:49,900 - I'd like to see. - I do, because she was lying to them 225 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:52,834 and said that I hit her car, and I did not hit her car. 226 00:09:52,834 --> 00:09:55,033 - It shows she was the one pulling in. - [Judy] Shh! 227 00:09:55,033 --> 00:09:58,533 Well, but the scenario that she's telling, Ms. Hernandez, 228 00:09:58,533 --> 00:10:01,500 that she's telling me, is different from what you told me. 229 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,333 So let's get it clear. 230 00:10:03,333 --> 00:10:06,266 Was her car parked there first, or yours? 231 00:10:06,266 --> 00:10:07,734 Mine was parked there first. 232 00:10:07,734 --> 00:10:10,100 [Judy] And she says hers was parked there first. 233 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:13,734 That means that she would have to back into that spot, whatever it was. 234 00:10:13,734 --> 00:10:15,633 - And she did. - [Judy] Just a second. 235 00:10:15,633 --> 00:10:18,166 That's what you want me-- She backed into that spot, 236 00:10:18,166 --> 00:10:20,433 and backed in very close to your car. 237 00:10:20,433 --> 00:10:21,600 - [Lynette] Yes. - I don't believe that. 238 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,734 I don't believe that. That doesn't-- I don't believe that. 239 00:10:24,734 --> 00:10:28,100 You're gonna have to prove that to me, because that would be silly. 240 00:10:30,834 --> 00:10:32,000 I see what you're showing me. 241 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,233 What you're showing me is consistent with the cars being very close together. 242 00:10:36,233 --> 00:10:39,800 But you want me to believe that she actually backed into that spot. 243 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,367 - She did. - [Judy] It's a video? 244 00:10:41,367 --> 00:10:44,367 [Lynette] Your Honor, she did park like that that day. 245 00:10:44,367 --> 00:10:45,433 [Judy] Ah. 246 00:10:48,066 --> 00:10:50,033 I hope this video will show me that. 247 00:10:52,367 --> 00:10:54,834 - I don't know what this... Sarah? - [Sarah] Yeah? 248 00:10:54,834 --> 00:10:56,800 Am I getting the whole...? 249 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,000 [Sarah] Yeah, you don't have to keep hitting it. 250 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,266 - That's the whole video. That's it. - Could we do it again? 251 00:11:01,266 --> 00:11:02,834 - [Sarah] Yeah. - [Judy] Thank you. 252 00:11:02,834 --> 00:11:05,400 - If I hit it, maybe hit it on the table... - Yeah, I don't think so. 253 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,800 That only works with your phone. 254 00:11:07,734 --> 00:11:09,033 It only works on my phone? 255 00:11:10,100 --> 00:11:11,100 Fresh mouth. 256 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,834 [spectators laugh] 257 00:11:13,767 --> 00:11:15,734 Yeah. All right, this is useless. 258 00:11:15,734 --> 00:11:19,967 Okay, so the police came out. And was there a police report? 259 00:11:19,967 --> 00:11:21,667 - I have it right here. - [Judy] May I have it, please? 260 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:26,200 Who else lives in the house with you, Ms. Hernandez? 261 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,600 Me and my two children. 262 00:11:30,767 --> 00:11:32,900 Oh, well, that was nasty over a parking space. 263 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:34,467 How unfortunate. 264 00:11:34,467 --> 00:11:35,834 - I'd like to see that. - [Judy] Absolutely. 265 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:41,133 Thank you. 266 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:44,333 Oh yes. 267 00:11:44,333 --> 00:11:48,100 The officer actually didn't believe her because there was nothing on her car. 268 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:50,367 [Judy] Doesn't have to be anything on her car. 269 00:11:50,367 --> 00:11:54,233 You tap somebody's bumper, there isn't always damage. 270 00:11:54,233 --> 00:11:57,233 That's close enough for me. Okay, give me the paper back. 271 00:11:57,934 --> 00:12:00,133 [Lynette] They... Uh, the officer did not believe her, 272 00:12:00,133 --> 00:12:02,333 because she lied. 273 00:12:02,333 --> 00:12:04,300 {\an8}She made false accusations, 274 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:06,333 {\an8}saying that I was threatening her with a knife, 275 00:12:06,333 --> 00:12:07,934 and with a baby in my arm. 276 00:12:07,934 --> 00:12:09,467 Officer didn't believe her because-- 277 00:12:09,567 --> 00:12:13,133 Don't tell me what the officer believed or what the officer didn't believe, madam. 278 00:12:13,133 --> 00:12:15,367 It's irrelevant what you think the officer believed. 279 00:12:15,367 --> 00:12:18,100 If the officer was here, I would question the officer. 280 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:21,533 Okay, it all started over a parking space. 281 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:23,633 And you have to understand, 282 00:12:23,633 --> 00:12:25,333 I'm not sympathetic with you. 283 00:12:26,033 --> 00:12:27,700 You move into a neighborhood. 284 00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:30,166 Something is established in the neighborhood. 285 00:12:30,166 --> 00:12:33,000 Because I'm sure she didn't wait to park in that spot 286 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,433 just when you moved in. 287 00:12:34,433 --> 00:12:36,800 That's where she's been parking her car. 288 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,033 It's not that you don't have a place to park. 289 00:12:39,033 --> 00:12:41,567 You have a place to park in front of your house. 290 00:12:41,567 --> 00:12:44,166 That's the defendant's house. 291 00:12:44,166 --> 00:12:46,433 Her car is parked right in front of her house. 292 00:12:46,433 --> 00:12:48,567 You have a place to park. 293 00:12:48,567 --> 00:12:51,266 Your car is parked right in front of your house. 294 00:12:51,266 --> 00:12:55,100 You want her to move to make it easier for you, 295 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:57,667 so that you don't have to struggle to park, 296 00:12:57,667 --> 00:13:00,233 so you could just scoot in and scoot out. 297 00:13:00,233 --> 00:13:03,200 I just didn't want to risk hitting her car for being... 298 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,500 - No. - ...because the people behind me 299 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:07,834 - would park pretty close up. - [Judy] Who cares? 300 00:13:07,834 --> 00:13:10,000 It's a public street! 301 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,667 I don't care if you park on Mars. 302 00:13:11,667 --> 00:13:14,300 - Mm-hmm. - [Judy] Park someplace else on the street. 303 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,133 It would bother me if that was my driveway 304 00:13:17,133 --> 00:13:22,333 and there was a car that was right up to the edge of that driveway, 305 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:27,934 causing me to have to swing out wide every time I pulled into my driveway. 306 00:13:27,934 --> 00:13:31,800 And I couldn't do it during trash days because it's even a wider turn, 307 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,467 all so that you didn't have to parallel park. 308 00:13:34,467 --> 00:13:36,767 I'm telling you, I'm not sympathetic with that. 309 00:13:39,667 --> 00:13:43,800 {\an8}You're not entitled to a public street parking spot. 310 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,533 {\an8}That's sort of an entitlement that... What generation? 311 00:13:47,533 --> 00:13:49,700 {\an8}- Gen Z. - Gen Z. 312 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:52,834 {\an8}This is gonna cause the demise of this country. 313 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,333 {\an8}[announcer] Lynette Hernandez 314 00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:09,100 {\an8}has accused her neighbor, Pamela Jackson, 315 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:11,667 {\an8}of defaming her on social media. 316 00:14:11,667 --> 00:14:15,467 Pamela claims Lynette assaulted her with a trashcan. 317 00:14:15,467 --> 00:14:17,300 Okay, how old are you? 318 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:20,000 - I'm 27. - You're 27. Well, that makes sense. 319 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,066 Is that called Gen X? 320 00:14:22,066 --> 00:14:24,233 - Is that a Gen X? What is that? - I think it's a Gen Z. 321 00:14:24,233 --> 00:14:26,066 - Gen Z? Gen Z. - Yeah. 322 00:14:26,066 --> 00:14:29,600 Yes, there's a whole bunch of entitlements with Gen Z people. 323 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,667 - Your Honor, I think it's-- - [Judy] Just a second. 324 00:14:31,667 --> 00:14:35,767 Your Honor, I don't think it's fair that she has called CPS on me. 325 00:14:35,767 --> 00:14:38,367 We're not talking about fair. Right now we're talking about parking. 326 00:14:38,367 --> 00:14:42,600 Right now we're talking about what precipitated this bad feeling, 327 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,133 and I agree with you. 328 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:45,700 We'll get to the rest of the harassment. 329 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:48,200 But what I'm telling you is, you're off base here. 330 00:14:48,934 --> 00:14:53,200 You're not entitled to a public street parking spot 331 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,834 that may or may not inconvenience somebody else. 332 00:14:55,834 --> 00:14:59,100 You have a spot in front of your house. 333 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:01,800 But if the reason you told her to move her car 334 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,700 and the people behind is because you don't like to parallel park, 335 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:08,500 that is sort of an entitlement. 336 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:10,567 I'm just telling you, Ms. Hernandez, 337 00:15:10,567 --> 00:15:14,367 that's sort of an entitlement that-- What generation? 338 00:15:14,367 --> 00:15:16,800 - Gen Z. - Gen Z. 339 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,633 This is gonna cause the demise of this country. 340 00:15:20,633 --> 00:15:24,133 There is no entitlement to park right in front of your house. 341 00:15:24,133 --> 00:15:25,200 Comfortably. 342 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,033 - Judge, if I might add-- - There's no entitlement to that. 343 00:15:27,033 --> 00:15:29,500 You wanted that, you should have bought a house that had a garage. 344 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:32,600 If that started the problem, I'm telling you that you were wrong. 345 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,533 That doesn't give her license to do bad things. 346 00:15:37,533 --> 00:15:40,734 Now, she can call the police if she thinks that you touched her car, 347 00:15:40,734 --> 00:15:41,834 which you probably did. 348 00:15:41,834 --> 00:15:44,133 You didn't damage it, but you probably touched it 349 00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:45,233 because you were annoyed, 350 00:15:45,233 --> 00:15:47,200 because that's a constant source of irritation. 351 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,367 No, I did not touch her car. 352 00:15:48,367 --> 00:15:50,934 [Judy] So I'm not concerned about calling the police. 353 00:15:50,934 --> 00:15:52,400 Understand this. 354 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,233 I'm concerned about calling CPS. 355 00:15:55,233 --> 00:15:58,033 Because that's one of the issues here. 356 00:15:58,033 --> 00:16:02,600 And, Ms. Jackson, I believe, in her answer, 357 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,233 {\an8}said she did, in fact, call Child Protective Services. 358 00:16:06,233 --> 00:16:08,800 {\an8}- And I have evidence why. - [Judy] Just a second. 359 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,567 You called Child Protective Services when? 360 00:16:11,567 --> 00:16:15,900 I made a call in August. Was it August or September? 361 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:17,934 [Judy] If you don't remember, you don't remember. 362 00:16:17,934 --> 00:16:20,066 You made a call to Child Protective Services based on-- 363 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:21,567 - Two times? - [Pamela] Twice. 364 00:16:21,567 --> 00:16:23,367 Well, there was the most recent. There was three. 365 00:16:23,367 --> 00:16:25,100 - So the first one-- - [Judy] Just a second. 366 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,934 So you called Child Protective Services three times? 367 00:16:27,934 --> 00:16:30,834 All three times, and I've got video evidence to why. 368 00:16:30,834 --> 00:16:32,867 Okay, I'd like to see the video evidence. 369 00:16:32,867 --> 00:16:35,967 [Pamela] Ashley, pull that up. One of them has to do with the fact 370 00:16:35,967 --> 00:16:38,800 she was inside, and I'd been outside changing batteries. 371 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,166 I went and verified my cameras picked up the audio. 372 00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:43,767 She had been yelling at her daughter. 373 00:16:43,767 --> 00:16:46,400 - Uh, threatened to beat her up. - Just a second. 374 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,300 The first time you called Child Protective Services 375 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:53,567 was in August or September of 2022. 376 00:16:53,567 --> 00:16:54,767 - Correct. - [Judy] That's what you said. 377 00:16:54,767 --> 00:16:59,667 Why did you call Child Protective Services the first time? 378 00:16:59,667 --> 00:17:01,266 The first time was, 379 00:17:01,266 --> 00:17:04,767 I saw her kind of shove her daughter backwards. 380 00:17:04,767 --> 00:17:06,567 [Judy] You have that on tape? 381 00:17:06,567 --> 00:17:08,100 [Pamela] Did you find the tape on that one? 382 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:09,667 - [Ashley] Yes. - I'd like to see it. 383 00:17:09,767 --> 00:17:12,667 Your Honor, they did not call CPS in August. 384 00:17:12,667 --> 00:17:16,133 Just a second. She says she did. August or September. 385 00:17:16,133 --> 00:17:18,800 But she's trying to claim earlier that I called in February. 386 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,066 But that wasn't me. She had another situation going on. 387 00:17:21,066 --> 00:17:25,600 She even told the cop if it hadn't been for her telling me not to move my car, 388 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,633 she wouldn't believe I was the one that called. 389 00:17:27,633 --> 00:17:29,867 - Because she called the police on that. - [Judy] Shh! 390 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:47,500 I don't see anything sufficient for you to call CPS the first time on that. 391 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:51,133 That was a motion with her hand. The child didn't fall. 392 00:17:51,133 --> 00:17:53,100 {\an8}There had been a bunch of yelling out before that. 393 00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:55,300 {\an8}I don't care. That's an overkill. 394 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:58,033 What's next? When's the next time you called? 395 00:17:58,033 --> 00:18:00,867 The next time I called, and she's got the video. 396 00:18:00,867 --> 00:18:02,800 She can pull it up for you. 397 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,533 She was inside. I was changing my battery. 398 00:18:05,533 --> 00:18:07,333 She yelled at her daughter. 399 00:18:07,333 --> 00:18:09,233 - Where was the daughter? - [Pamela] They were inside. 400 00:18:09,233 --> 00:18:11,767 - So you heard her yelling at her daughter? - Heard her yelling at her daughter 401 00:18:11,767 --> 00:18:14,900 to get down, or next time she does it she's gonna beat her up, 402 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:17,133 - and then we heard "break your neck." - [Judy] Okay. 403 00:18:17,133 --> 00:18:18,567 - And you videoed that? - [Pamela] Yes. 404 00:18:18,567 --> 00:18:20,433 We even showed that to the police. 405 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:22,400 - [Judy] Okay. I'd like to see. - Your Honor, it wasn't me. 406 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,400 Looking at it, I'm-- So far you... 407 00:18:29,467 --> 00:18:31,066 [audio hissing] 408 00:18:31,834 --> 00:18:32,967 [audio spiking] 409 00:18:33,300 --> 00:18:35,433 [indistinct recorded speaking] 410 00:18:35,433 --> 00:18:37,100 You hear anything? 411 00:18:39,533 --> 00:18:41,934 [children yelling faintly on recording] 412 00:18:46,867 --> 00:18:48,433 {\an8}Hey... 413 00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:50,934 {\an8}get your ___ off the couch right now... 414 00:18:51,233 --> 00:18:52,734 {\an8}right now... 415 00:18:52,734 --> 00:18:55,000 {\an8}Do that again I'm going to beat you up... 416 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,900 {\an8}stop playing with me... 417 00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:59,200 {\an8}you're going to break your neck one of those days... 418 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Yeah. She says, "I'm gonna beat you up," 419 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,767 and, "If you don't listen, I'm gonna break your neck." 420 00:19:04,967 --> 00:19:05,967 [Judy] Okay. 421 00:19:05,967 --> 00:19:07,934 - How old is your daughter? - [Lynette] That's not me. 422 00:19:07,934 --> 00:19:09,333 - My daughter is 7. - [Judy] Who is that? 423 00:19:09,333 --> 00:19:11,200 Whose voice is it coming from your house? 424 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,567 It's not me. It's the neighbor that was on the corner. 425 00:19:14,567 --> 00:19:16,834 - [Judy] What? - That's not me, my daughter's name, 426 00:19:16,834 --> 00:19:18,166 or my son's name is Cam. 427 00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:20,200 - She said, "Cam, get your..." - No, she didn't. 428 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,033 You can listen to it again, and it's gonna say "Cam." 429 00:19:23,033 --> 00:19:24,233 That's not me. 430 00:19:24,233 --> 00:19:27,066 - [Lyzette] That was the person... - [Pamela] On that side, nobody has kids. 431 00:19:27,066 --> 00:19:28,233 Yes, they do. 432 00:19:28,233 --> 00:19:29,767 [audio hissing] 433 00:19:30,934 --> 00:19:32,967 [children yelling faintly on recording] 434 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:39,667 {\an8}Hey 435 00:19:39,667 --> 00:19:40,834 {\an8}get your ___ off the couch right now... 436 00:19:40,834 --> 00:19:42,333 {\an8}I think she says, "Hey." 437 00:19:42,433 --> 00:19:44,533 {\an8}"Get off the couch right now, right now." 438 00:19:45,367 --> 00:19:47,033 {\an8}"I'm gonna beat you up." 439 00:19:47,033 --> 00:19:48,133 {\an8}"Stop playing." 440 00:19:48,133 --> 00:19:49,300 {\an8}"I'm gonna break your--" 441 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:51,767 {\an8}Oh, she says, "You're going to break your neck." 442 00:19:51,767 --> 00:19:54,000 -"You're going to break your neck." Yeah. -"You're going to break your neck." 443 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,300 - [Judy] Okay. - That's not me. 444 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:57,767 [Judy] Second time. Just a second. 445 00:19:57,767 --> 00:20:00,700 Second time. Would I, based on that? 446 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,200 She didn't say, "I'm gonna break your neck." 447 00:20:02,300 --> 00:20:03,834 She said, "You're gonna break your neck." 448 00:20:03,834 --> 00:20:07,667 After she threatened to beat the child up. I'm actually a victim of child abuse. 449 00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:10,867 [Judy] I'm sympathetic with that, and I'm sensitive to that. 450 00:20:10,867 --> 00:20:14,633 I still think that that's a little bit of overkill, Ms. Jackson. 451 00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:16,200 Let's go further. 452 00:20:16,934 --> 00:20:18,333 {\an8}[announcer] To be continued. 453 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,567 {\an8}[announcer] Are you a victim of an assault? 454 00:20:22,567 --> 00:20:24,800 {\an8}Go to JudyJustice.tv.