She called Child Protective Services.
She's pimped out her own daughter.
Clearly, that's your voice.
Saying that you saw
her using her child for prostitution.
That's what you say in here.
Vindictive and vile.
This is Judy Justice.
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Each one of you are claiming
that the other is guilty of harassment.
And false police reports,
reports to the Child Welfare Administration.
The whole bad feeling between neighbors
started because of a parking space.
She parked very close to my car,
as you can see on the picture.
She started parking close to me like that.
She asked you to move. Your response to her was,
"It's a public street. I'll park where I want to park."
I'm not sympathetic with you.
You called Child Protective Services... Twice.
- based on... - He yelled at her daughter.
To get down. Next time she does it, she's gonna beat her up.
And then we heard, "break your neck."
Hey get your ___ off the couch right now...
I think she said, "Hey, get off the couch
right now...
right now... right now." Mm-hmm.
Do that again and I'm going to beat you up...
"I'm gonna beat you up. Stop playing." Okay.
Stop playing...
You are going to break your neck...
"I'm going to break your..."
Oh, she says, "You're going to break your neck."
She didn't say, "I'm going to break your neck",
she said, "You're going to break your neck."
After she threatened to beat the child up.
I still think that that's a little bit of overkill, Ms. Jackson.
Let's go further.
And now, the conclusion.
Lynette Hernandez is suing her neighbors,
Pamela Jackson and Ashley Jackson,
for filing false CPS reports
and defamation of character.
So the first two times
that you called Child Protective Services,
I think that they were iffy.
And I believe, you know, if you see something,
say something, but this comes
from a different place.
- All right, you... Don't! - A police officer...
Don't speak.
I don't care what a police officer said to you.
Actually, I really don't care.
You say that she called Child Protective Services
- in April. - April 7th.
Well, just, just a second. Mm-hmm.
So, Child Protective Services responded
to a call on April 7th.
And what was the gravamen of that call?
Somebody was complaining that what?
Do you know?
Yeah, she... Not she!
Somebody was complaining... Somebody was saying
that I had a knife, a child,
and that I was kicking her car.
The same thing she told the police officer the first time.
Then, whenever she came inside of my house...
Just a second. - ...a CPS worker...
- Just a second. - Mm-hmm.
She says she did not call
- Child Protective Services in April. - Nope.
That's what she says. So, now you're going to show me proof
that she called Child Protective Services in April.
She acknowledges she three times, all after August,
either August, September, or thereafter.
So, show me proof that she called in April.
Just tell her to press play.
Press play at the bottom.
How did you get this audio? She...
She posted that on TikTok,
and the first time that they came,
April 7th, CPS,
they told me that those were the allegations that were made.
- Clearly, that's your voice. - It's m...
Clearly. Just a second. - That was after...
Clearly... I...
- Clearly, that's your voice. - Yes, that's my voice.
But I'm not the one that called. She...
I learned about the allegations... Clearly...
- and called the police on that call. - Clearly, that's your voice.
Mm-hmm.
And those are pretty serious allegations,
because you're not only accusing her
of committing a crime in front of her children,
you say in this audio...
which is on TikTok, is that where it is?
I can see if there's a [indistinct]. It was so crazy.
...that she is using her daughter, who is seven--
that's what you say on here.
That's pretty vicious!
At the time, I... No. Just a second.
That's pretty...
Your Honor, she's claiming that I'm a prostitute.
Just a second.
Does it sound as if, right now, I told you,
I don't care if you have to parallel park, I find that...
There's another TikTok to why that one was posted
that would clear, clear more information.
Just, I don't care if you have something that
would clear more information, madam, you...
She accused me of being arrested
for calling CPS when I wasn't.
And that particular CPS call, somebody else...
She called the police after that... Did you...
Hey! Did you post this
on... on a... Just a sec. After a viral video...
- Hey! - ...I almost got fired for.
- That's your voice? - Mm-hmm.
And I don't care if you're having a private conversation
with somebody, if you're saying to somebody,
privately, "This is what I think is going in there. This is what I think."
You posted this on a public platform,
accusing her, not only accusing her,
but saying that you saw her home
being used for prostitution
and her using her child for prostitution.
That's what you say... Hey!
That's what you say in here.
And it was posted, 'cause that's the only way you get it.
I had a few hundred views, unlike hers that had over four million.
Just a sec. I'm telling you that that is egregious.
That is egregious.
Now, I have a question for you.
Have you ever been arrested? No, ma'am.
Mm-hmm. Sh...
I didn't ask you for anything.
Have you ever been... Careful.
- Have you ever been arrested? - No, ma'am.
If you haven't been arrested, you couldn't have
been convicted of a crime.
You have two children. How old are they?
Seven and eight.
Who do you work for?
I'm a home healthcare giver for a company.
You work full time?
Part time, 'cause I'm also a student.
Where? In Galveston College.
Is that a brick and mortar school?
Uh, it's a community college.
But it's a brick and mortar school. It's not online?
No. It's... It's public. I mean, I...
It's... When I say it's a brick and mortar,
it's a building, rather than something in the cloud.
Yeah. Okay.
Outrageous. That's outrageous.
She ended up taking my can
and going like this...
Literally, shoved it into me
four times.
I don't see her going like this
into you four times.
I don't see that.
Lynette Hernandez
claims her neighbor, Pamela Jackson,
defamed her on social media.
Pamela says she called CPS on Lynette
after she witnessed abuse.
Okay, when's the third time you called?
The third time, she was outside with her child,
her child threw a ball at her.
She took the ball, and with full force,
she took it and threw it at his face.
She also threw it at his groin.
Then when he was upset and crying,
she looked at him and told him,
"You've been hit harder than that in soccer."
Okay. Do you have a video of that?
We have a recording. - I'd like to see it.
Which one is your phone? With the happy face? Or this face?
That one.
Here's the one where you can see him being hit in the groin.
And then, there's another one too.
Thank you.
I'm not sure what this is showing.
Well, she's playing ball with her two children
out in the front, and it's a big... It looks like a big beach ball.
Oh, that. And then she throws ball,
and it... But it's in the...
It's in light-spirited, in a very light-spirited way.
These are not angry... The other one's not.
These are... Well...
Yeah, I've got it.
Just a mother playing with her children. Okay...
CPS closed all of these cases after they came out and interviewed you?
Yes, ma'am. Okay.
It was ruled out because they didn't find anything.
Okay. Now, I'm going to hear one thing from you.
Only one thing, and that's your counter claim.
'Cause I don't care about police. I don't care calling the police.
You're all entitled to do that.
CPS is a whole different thing.
If I could add something please?
Not unless it's on video, 'cause what you showed me so far...
I got documents for this one. What?
I've got documentation on this one.
- On what? - In retaliation,
she called CPS on my daughter who doesn't have kids.
Who cares?
Then your daughter's not at risk if she has no children.
CPS responded based upon
at least three times, maybe four,
but at least three times, and so far,
nothing that I've seen, other than the fact
that you were annoyed,
would require or suggest
child abuse or neglect.
So, I'm telling you, that's trouble for you.
All I want to hear now is, you claim she assaulted you.
That's your counter claim.
I don't want to hear about anything else.
- You claim she assaulted you. - Well, we have
Just a second. - ...that we also have defamation.
All I care about...
You have to understand,
I find that what you and/or your daughter did,
by calling Child Protective Services, vindictive and vile.
And it took people who should be out there
really looking to take care of children
who are really abused and/or neglected,
took their time to come out, do an investigation,
all because of vindictiveness.
'Cause I saw nothing.
- If I were trying a neglect case... Hey! - I have video...
...of a cop telling me to call CPS. Just a second. Just a second.
I don't care.
You have shown me the basis
that you used to call Child Protective Services.
You took the video of it.
And I'm telling you
that was my business for a quarter of a century.
I would never make a finding of neglect
based upon anything that you had here.
Anything.
So, now, follow directions.
You know, I told you,
I'm an equal-opportunity abuser.
I told her, she's got to learn how to parallel park,
and not tell people where to park on the street.
All I'm interested from you is,
tell me about this assault that you allege occurred?
So, the night of the assault, and we have video of it...
I have to get that ready. Just a... Date?
Just a second. Date?
November 27th, this past year, 2022.
It was in the evening.
I was outside changing my cameras,
and she came home and took my trash can.
'Cause she had put hers in front of my car
that day, or the day before.
And the cops even... Because at first... No, no, no!
Don't go off on a tangent. Okay.
All right. So she took my trash can,
put it in the middle of the road.
She likes to try to get me tickets,
so I went to go move it.
She kept pulling it and pulling it and moving it back out there,
so finally, I went to go grab her can to move it over.
Well, she ended up taking my can
and going like this...
Literally, shoved it into me four times.
- I ended up with scratches and bruises. - Okay.
I've got a back strain.
And I agitated my arthritis. I'm going to see...
I'm going to see the vid... - I've got medical records.
Just a second. I'm going to see
the video of that and the police report.
- Can you pull that video? - Don't have my phone.
Your Honor, I have video of the whole incident.
Is this hers? Yes.
Pull up that video.
We have it on the monitor if you want to see it.
Oh, yeah.
I'm about to move it...
stupid ____.
Let me park my car.
You can keep it up there. I'm parallel parked.
What you going to do?
unintelligible
I don't give a ____ .
Let me park my car.
unintelligible
You gonna make her... you gonna make her do it.
____ is all about.
Why you _______ .
unintelligible ____ ___
unintelligible
You want me to hit you?
unintelligible
I don't see any... Your Honor, I have a video
of the whole thing. Just a second.
I don't see anything there.
Those are just clips... Just shh!
Yes, ma'am. I don't see anything there,
Ms. Jackson, I see two ladies fighting over the trash cans.
I don't see her assaulting you.
It was the trash can she got me with.
I don't see it.
I don't see her going like this into you, four times.
I don't see that.
I don't see it. Now I'll look at a police report.
That's your video.
Do you see her shoving a trash can into her four times?
You can see that they come together with both trash cans,
but not much more. Okay. Yeah.
Stupid people acting stupid.
Nonsense. Stupid.
Your Honor, I have a video... Stup... What?
...of the whole incident of how it first started.
I'd like to see it. - 'Cause she made a...
I gave them all before. Pink phone.
Every angle of it.
Pink phone.
Don't speak. I'm not...
She made another false accusation
saying that I was the one who put it in the middle of the street.
I came, and she was the one who came first
and started putting it in the middle of the street.
And I'm going to find the video for you.
Yeah, you know, I really don't care.
Listen to me, Ms. Hernandez. Yes, ma'am.
Pick up... Take your phone.
I really don't care. - Okay.
I looked there and I don't see an assault.
- Okay. - I don't see an assault,
and that's really all I was interested in.
You showed me your best evidence.
You said, "I have it all recorded
why I called Child Protective Services."
Because I couldn't... - That's it. Hey... Hey...
This is not a because. This is not a because.
Defendant Pamela Jackson
is accusing her neighbor, Lynette Hernandez,
of abusing her children.
Lynette claims Pamela posted damaging content
on her social media.
Okay. Ms. Jackson, when we started out this case,
I said to Ms. Hernandez, in effect,
"Don't be a big baby.
"You have to park your car. Learn to parallel park.
"And you can't tell somebody else that they can't park
in front of their house."
And you were absolutely right.
- Right? - Mm-hmm.
You owe her $5,000.
I'm entering a judgement on her behalf for $5,000,
for your erroneous call to Child Protective Services.
That's my judgement.
Don't do it again. Don't take...
If I could explain where I came from. Wait! I'm speaking!
There's a reason. I'm speaking.
Hey, listen to me. Listen to me.
I'm speaking.
You showed me your best evidence.
You said, "I have it all recorded
why I called Child Protective Services."
You showed me.
There was nothing there.
In the videos you showed me...
Because they're clips. I couldn't... Hey! Hey!
...just say what led up to that. This is not a because.
This is not a because.
I also find what you posted on TikTok abhorrent.
What she posted was worse. I'm speaking... I'm...
And it's viral. You didn't give me
a chance to present that. Just a second.
The only thing that I'm hearing
are the calls to Child Protective Services
and your assault.
I didn't see the assault,
but I saw Child Protective Services.
Judgement for the plaintiff in the amount of $5,000.
Your counter claim's dismissed. We're finished.
This court is adjourned.
I overheard a lot more than what was,
and saw a lot more than what was being shown.
I got justice, because you shouldn't waste resources,
you know, on something...
on accusations, sick and false like that.
I wouldn't have all these cameras
if she wasn't constantly harassing me,
calling the police on me.
Everybody gets along except for her. She's the problem.
She wants to become TikTok famous
when she realized her videos of defamation
against my mother was getting a big hit.
She was like, "Okay, I'm gonna keep this on."
I'm not trying. It just happened.
We've tried to ignore her.
She's the one that keeps doing it.
There's been things that she's done
and it's just all out of pettiness.
Wait for the police to finally arrest her.
Thank you, Judy Justice.
- So, I have two comments. - Okay.
'Cause we've had lots of cases
that are about the parking spaces,
parking in the street, and that sort of stuff.
And how neighbors start off wrong,
usually because of something.
This was a car thing.
But you have to be sensitive to the limited resources
of people who are supposed to protect children,
and if you keep calling them over
nonsense, because it really emanated
from a parking space.
"She touched me car," "It's parked too close."
- That's not a tool. - Yeah.
That's not a tool, and we have to fortify
that statement that it's not a tool
to call a governmental agency that has limited resources
because somebody's bumping into your car.
- Yeah. - And there are ramifications
of posting that sort of stuff
without any modicum
of proof. Mm-hmm.
Just because you're making up this...
- ...fantasy in your head. - I was pretty outraged
listening to that as well, hearing...
Like you had said, I could speak to a friend or a family member at home
and say, "I've seen some weird things about my neighbor
Not sure if something weird is going on there."
But those were concrete, seemingly factual statements
that she was making about her neighbor
that were inaccurate,
and like you said, had no basis.
- If true, she belongs in jail. - Yep.
- Which is not true. - No.
- In my judgement. - Mm-hmm.
Just, the limited contact that I had,
- they both behaved badly. - Mm-hmm.
I was talking about this gen whatever-it-is...
Oh, us Gen Z.
You realize that's my generation as well.
Yeah, I... Yes, it is.
- So... - Go easy on us. Heh.
- I've... - Remember who raised us.
Yes, I know. - Yeah.
Probably part of it was us.
But I heard a really funny story.
We were talking about this entitlement, you know,
young people and entitlement,
and, heh, one of my friends said,
"I went into a store", you know, where they usually have one shoe out,
and if you want the other one,
you have to ask a sales associate to please get you the other shoe,
to prevent people from walking out
with two shoes. Sure.
So, he went over to the sales associate,
the place was relatively empty, he said to the sales associate,
"Could I get the mate of this shoe?"
And this kid who was about 25,
28 years old, you know, looked like a schlump,
his response to him was, "Why me?"
"Why me?"
"Why did you ask me there?"
"Four other sales associates here who could get you the other shoe.
Why did you pick me?"
Bizarre. - Yeah.
I'm praying for some sort of a miracle for this generation,
some sort of an awakening.
- Anyway... - There's some good ones
in the generation
- that might just save us, so... - There is some great ones.
Just a minute. There are great ones.
There are... There are great ones,
but there's a very unfortunate thing,
because neither one of these two people are moving.
Yeah.
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