1 00:00:00,266 --> 00:00:03,033 She called Child Protective Services. 2 00:00:03,033 --> 00:00:06,934 {\an8}[Pamela on speaker] She's pimped out her own daughter. 3 00:00:06,934 --> 00:00:08,467 Clearly, that's your voice. 4 00:00:08,467 --> 00:00:10,600 Saying that you saw 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,467 her using her child for prostitution. 6 00:00:13,467 --> 00:00:15,433 That's what you say in here. 7 00:00:15,433 --> 00:00:17,200 Vindictive and vile. 8 00:00:17,834 --> 00:00:19,934 [narrator] This is Judy Justice. 9 00:00:19,934 --> 00:00:21,333 [music theme playing] 10 00:00:36,767 --> 00:00:39,834 [narrator] Previously on Judy Justice: 11 00:00:39,834 --> 00:00:41,000 Each one of you are claiming 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,233 that the other is guilty of harassment. 13 00:00:43,233 --> 00:00:45,233 And false police reports, 14 00:00:45,233 --> 00:00:48,066 reports to the Child Welfare Administration. 15 00:00:48,066 --> 00:00:51,166 The whole bad feeling between neighbors 16 00:00:51,166 --> 00:00:52,800 started because of a parking space. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,000 She parked very close to my car, 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,767 as you can see on the picture. 19 00:00:56,767 --> 00:00:58,467 She started parking close to me like that. 20 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:00,533 She asked you to move. Your response to her was, 21 00:01:00,533 --> 00:01:02,533 "It's a public street. I'll park where I want to park." 22 00:01:02,533 --> 00:01:04,567 I'm not sympathetic with you. 23 00:01:04,567 --> 00:01:06,400 - You called Child Protective Services... - [Pamela] Twice. 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,233 - based on... - He yelled at her daughter. 25 00:01:08,233 --> 00:01:11,333 To get down. Next time she does it, she's gonna beat her up. 26 00:01:11,333 --> 00:01:13,033 And then we heard, "break your neck." 27 00:01:13,033 --> 00:01:15,066 [Lynette on recording] Hey get your ___ off the couch right now... 28 00:01:15,066 --> 00:01:17,000 I think she said, "Hey, get off the couch 29 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,967 [Lynette on recording] right now... 30 00:01:17,967 --> 00:01:18,867 - right now... right now." - [Judy] Mm-hmm. 31 00:01:18,867 --> 00:01:20,000 [Lynette on recording] Do that again and I'm going to beat you up... 32 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,100 -"I'm gonna beat you up. Stop playing." - [Judy] Okay. 33 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:22,233 [Lynette on recording] Stop playing... 34 00:01:22,233 --> 00:01:23,133 You are going to break your neck... 35 00:01:23,133 --> 00:01:24,033 "I'm going to break your..." 36 00:01:24,033 --> 00:01:26,133 Oh, she says, "You're going to break your neck." 37 00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:27,467 She didn't say, "I'm going to break your neck", 38 00:01:27,467 --> 00:01:29,200 she said, "You're going to break your neck." 39 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,900 After she threatened to beat the child up. 40 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:34,700 I still think that that's a little bit of overkill, Ms. Jackson. 41 00:01:34,700 --> 00:01:37,166 Let's go further. 42 00:01:37,166 --> 00:01:39,867 [narrator] And now, the conclusion. 43 00:01:39,867 --> 00:01:43,166 {\an8}Lynette Hernandez is suing her neighbors, 44 00:01:43,166 --> 00:01:45,433 {\an8}Pamela Jackson and Ashley Jackson, 45 00:01:45,433 --> 00:01:47,867 {\an8}for filing false CPS reports 46 00:01:47,867 --> 00:01:49,800 and defamation of character. 47 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,066 So the first two times 48 00:01:51,066 --> 00:01:53,767 that you called Child Protective Services, 49 00:01:53,767 --> 00:01:55,600 I think that they were iffy. 50 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,767 And I believe, you know, if you see something, 51 00:01:57,767 --> 00:01:59,400 say something, but this comes 52 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,467 from a different place. 53 00:02:01,467 --> 00:02:03,033 - All right, you... Don't! - A police officer... 54 00:02:03,033 --> 00:02:04,500 Don't speak. 55 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:06,300 I don't care what a police officer said to you. 56 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:08,967 Actually, I really don't care. 57 00:02:08,967 --> 00:02:13,367 You say that she called Child Protective Services 58 00:02:13,367 --> 00:02:14,533 {\an8}- in April. - April 7th. 59 00:02:14,533 --> 00:02:15,800 {\an8}- [Judy] Well, just, just a second. - [Lynette] Mm-hmm. 60 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,467 {\an8}So, Child Protective Services responded 61 00:02:18,467 --> 00:02:21,200 to a call on April 7th. 62 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,500 And what was the gravamen of that call? 63 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:25,600 Somebody was complaining that what? 64 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,734 Do you know? 65 00:02:26,734 --> 00:02:28,433 - Yeah, she... - [Judy] Not she! 66 00:02:28,433 --> 00:02:31,033 - Somebody was complaining... - [Lynette] Somebody was saying 67 00:02:31,033 --> 00:02:34,900 that I had a knife, a child, 68 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:37,567 and that I was kicking her car. 69 00:02:37,567 --> 00:02:40,734 The same thing she told the police officer the first time. 70 00:02:40,734 --> 00:02:42,600 Then, whenever she came inside of my house... 71 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,133 - [Judy] Just a second. - ...a CPS worker... 72 00:02:44,133 --> 00:02:45,667 - Just a second. - Mm-hmm. 73 00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:47,433 She says she did not call 74 00:02:47,433 --> 00:02:50,367 - Child Protective Services in April. - Nope. 75 00:02:50,367 --> 00:02:53,233 [Judy] That's what she says. So, now you're going to show me proof 76 00:02:53,233 --> 00:02:56,133 that she called Child Protective Services in April. 77 00:02:56,133 --> 00:03:00,166 She acknowledges she three times, all after August, 78 00:03:00,166 --> 00:03:02,233 either August, September, or thereafter. 79 00:03:02,233 --> 00:03:06,066 So, show me proof that she called in April. 80 00:03:12,033 --> 00:03:13,734 Just tell her to press play. 81 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:19,433 [Sarah] Press play at the bottom. 82 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:24,867 {\an8}[Pamela on recording] 83 00:03:53,467 --> 00:03:55,500 {\an8}[Lynette sighs deeply] 84 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:13,266 - How did you get this audio? - [Lynette] She... 85 00:04:13,266 --> 00:04:15,000 {\an8}She posted that on TikTok, 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,967 {\an8}and the first time that they came, 87 00:04:16,967 --> 00:04:18,533 {\an8}April 7th, CPS, 88 00:04:18,533 --> 00:04:21,333 {\an8}they told me that those were the allegations that were made. 89 00:04:22,667 --> 00:04:23,800 [sighs] 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,767 - Clearly, that's your voice. - It's m... 91 00:04:25,767 --> 00:04:27,533 - [Judy] Clearly. Just a second. - That was after... 92 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:28,600 [Judy] Clearly... I... 93 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,867 - Clearly, that's your voice. - Yes, that's my voice. 94 00:04:31,867 --> 00:04:33,867 But I'm not the one that called. She... 95 00:04:33,867 --> 00:04:35,734 - I learned about the allegations... - [Judy] Clearly... 96 00:04:35,734 --> 00:04:38,633 - and called the police on that call. - Clearly, that's your voice. 97 00:04:38,633 --> 00:04:39,834 [Pamela] Mm-hmm. 98 00:04:39,834 --> 00:04:43,734 And those are pretty serious allegations, 99 00:04:43,734 --> 00:04:46,934 because you're not only accusing her 100 00:04:46,934 --> 00:04:49,900 of committing a crime in front of her children, 101 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:53,333 you say in this audio... 102 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:55,000 which is on TikTok, is that where it is? 103 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,567 - I can see if there's a [indistinct]. - [chuckles] It was so crazy. 104 00:04:57,567 --> 00:05:02,800 ...that she is using her daughter, who is seven-- 105 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,767 that's what you say on here. 106 00:05:04,767 --> 00:05:06,367 That's pretty vicious! 107 00:05:06,367 --> 00:05:08,133 - At the time, I... - [Judy] No. Just a second. 108 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:09,266 [Judy] That's pretty... 109 00:05:09,266 --> 00:05:11,066 Your Honor, she's claiming that I'm a prostitute. 110 00:05:11,066 --> 00:05:12,367 [Judy] Just a second. 111 00:05:12,367 --> 00:05:15,000 Does it sound as if, right now, I told you, 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,266 I don't care if you have to parallel park, I find that... 113 00:05:17,266 --> 00:05:19,033 [Pamela] There's another TikTok to why that one was posted 114 00:05:19,033 --> 00:05:21,033 that would clear, clear more information. 115 00:05:21,033 --> 00:05:23,066 Just, I don't care if you have something that 116 00:05:23,066 --> 00:05:24,700 would clear more information, madam, you... 117 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:27,100 She accused me of being arrested 118 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:29,300 for calling CPS when I wasn't. 119 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:32,367 {\an8}And that particular CPS call, somebody else... 120 00:05:32,367 --> 00:05:34,533 {\an8}- She called the police after that... - [Judy] Did you... 121 00:05:34,533 --> 00:05:37,300 [Judy] Hey! Did you post this 122 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:39,400 - on... on a... Just a sec. - [Pamela] After a viral video... 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,700 - Hey! [slams desk] - ...I almost got fired for. 124 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:43,533 - That's your voice? - Mm-hmm. 125 00:05:43,533 --> 00:05:45,700 And I don't care if you're having a private conversation 126 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:48,000 with somebody, if you're saying to somebody, 127 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,767 privately, "This is what I think is going in there. This is what I think." 128 00:05:51,767 --> 00:05:54,900 You posted this on a public platform, 129 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,133 accusing her, not only accusing her, 130 00:05:57,133 --> 00:06:01,033 but saying that you saw her home 131 00:06:01,033 --> 00:06:02,700 being used for prostitution 132 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:06,433 and her using her child for prostitution. 133 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:08,300 That's what you say... Hey! 134 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:10,300 That's what you say in here. 135 00:06:10,300 --> 00:06:14,800 And it was posted, 'cause that's the only way you get it. 136 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,600 I had a few hundred views, unlike hers that had over four million. 137 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,800 Just a sec. I'm telling you that that is egregious. 138 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,166 That is egregious. 139 00:06:23,166 --> 00:06:25,500 Now, I have a question for you. 140 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:27,767 - Have you ever been arrested? - [Lynette] No, ma'am. 141 00:06:27,767 --> 00:06:29,033 - [Pamela] Mm-hmm. - [Judy] Sh... 142 00:06:29,033 --> 00:06:31,133 [Judy] I didn't ask you for anything. 143 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:32,633 Have you ever been... Careful. 144 00:06:32,633 --> 00:06:34,533 {\an8}- Have you ever been arrested? - No, ma'am. 145 00:06:34,533 --> 00:06:35,834 {\an8}If you haven't been arrested, you couldn't have 146 00:06:35,834 --> 00:06:37,233 {\an8}been convicted of a crime. 147 00:06:37,233 --> 00:06:39,500 You have two children. How old are they? 148 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:41,000 Seven and eight. 149 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Who do you work for? 150 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,266 I'm a home healthcare giver for a company. 151 00:06:44,266 --> 00:06:45,667 [Judy] You work full time? 152 00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:47,700 Part time, 'cause I'm also a student. 153 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:49,767 - [Judy] Where? - [Lynette] In Galveston College. 154 00:06:49,767 --> 00:06:51,567 Is that a brick and mortar school? 155 00:06:51,567 --> 00:06:54,300 {\an8}Uh, it's a community college. 156 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:56,834 {\an8}[Judy] But it's a brick and mortar school. It's not online? 157 00:06:56,834 --> 00:06:59,700 No. It's... It's public. I mean, I... 158 00:06:59,700 --> 00:07:01,567 It's... When I say it's a brick and mortar, 159 00:07:01,567 --> 00:07:04,633 it's a building, rather than something in the cloud. 160 00:07:04,633 --> 00:07:05,967 - Yeah. - [Judy] Okay. 161 00:07:05,967 --> 00:07:08,767 Outrageous. That's outrageous. 162 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:14,667 She ended up taking my can 163 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:15,934 and going like this... 164 00:07:17,633 --> 00:07:19,266 [Pamela] Literally, shoved it into me 165 00:07:19,266 --> 00:07:20,767 four times. 166 00:07:20,767 --> 00:07:22,734 [man clamoring indistinctly] 167 00:07:25,734 --> 00:07:27,400 I don't see her going like this 168 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:28,734 into you four times. 169 00:07:28,734 --> 00:07:29,967 I don't see that. 170 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,667 [music theme playing] 171 00:07:40,934 --> 00:07:42,767 {\an8}[narrator] Lynette Hernandez 172 00:07:42,767 --> 00:07:45,200 {\an8}claims her neighbor, Pamela Jackson, 173 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,467 {\an8}defamed her on social media. 174 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:50,433 Pamela says she called CPS on Lynette 175 00:07:50,433 --> 00:07:52,700 after she witnessed abuse. 176 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:54,800 Okay, when's the third time you called? 177 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,000 The third time, she was outside with her child, 178 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,266 her child threw a ball at her. 179 00:08:00,266 --> 00:08:03,467 She took the ball, and with full force, 180 00:08:03,467 --> 00:08:05,600 she took it and threw it at his face. 181 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,367 She also threw it at his groin. 182 00:08:07,367 --> 00:08:09,700 Then when he was upset and crying, 183 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:11,934 she looked at him and told him, 184 00:08:11,934 --> 00:08:13,934 "You've been hit harder than that in soccer." 185 00:08:13,934 --> 00:08:15,767 [Judy] Okay. Do you have a video of that? 186 00:08:15,767 --> 00:08:17,800 - [Pamela] We have a recording. - I'd like to see it. 187 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,567 Which one is your phone? With the happy face? Or this face? 188 00:08:20,567 --> 00:08:22,233 - [Bailiff] That one. - [crowd murmuring] 189 00:08:27,233 --> 00:08:31,033 Here's the one where you can see him being hit in the groin. 190 00:08:31,033 --> 00:08:33,166 And then, there's another one too. 191 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,433 Thank you. 192 00:08:41,133 --> 00:08:42,834 [people chattering] 193 00:08:46,233 --> 00:08:48,066 [Sarah] I'm not sure what this is showing. 194 00:08:48,066 --> 00:08:50,200 [Judy] Well, she's playing ball with her two children 195 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,367 out in the front, and it's a big... It looks like a big beach ball. 196 00:08:52,367 --> 00:08:54,800 - [Sarah] Oh, that. - [Judy] And then she throws ball, 197 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,266 and it... But it's in the... 198 00:08:56,266 --> 00:09:00,233 It's in light-spirited, in a very light-spirited way. 199 00:09:00,233 --> 00:09:02,100 - These are not angry... - [Pamela] The other one's not. 200 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,600 These are... Well... 201 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,734 Yeah, I've got it. 202 00:09:05,734 --> 00:09:07,367 - Just a mother playing with her children. - [Judy] Okay... 203 00:09:07,367 --> 00:09:10,967 CPS closed all of these cases after they came out and interviewed you? 204 00:09:10,967 --> 00:09:12,467 {\an8}- Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] Okay. 205 00:09:12,467 --> 00:09:14,567 {\an8}It was ruled out because they didn't find anything. 206 00:09:14,567 --> 00:09:17,333 Okay. Now, I'm going to hear one thing from you. 207 00:09:17,333 --> 00:09:20,100 Only one thing, and that's your counter claim. 208 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:22,467 {\an8}'Cause I don't care about police. I don't care calling the police. 209 00:09:22,467 --> 00:09:23,967 {\an8}You're all entitled to do that. 210 00:09:23,967 --> 00:09:26,033 {\an8}CPS is a whole different thing. 211 00:09:26,033 --> 00:09:27,533 If I could add something please? 212 00:09:27,533 --> 00:09:30,400 Not unless it's on video, 'cause what you showed me so far... 213 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,433 - I got documents for this one. - [Judy] What? 214 00:09:32,433 --> 00:09:34,633 [Pamela] I've got documentation on this one. 215 00:09:34,633 --> 00:09:36,834 - On what? - In retaliation, 216 00:09:36,834 --> 00:09:39,266 she called CPS on my daughter who doesn't have kids. 217 00:09:39,266 --> 00:09:40,400 [Judy] Who cares? 218 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,600 Then your daughter's not at risk if she has no children. 219 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,567 CPS responded based upon 220 00:09:45,567 --> 00:09:48,600 at least three times, maybe four, 221 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,333 but at least three times, and so far, 222 00:09:50,333 --> 00:09:53,000 nothing that I've seen, other than the fact 223 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,533 that you were annoyed, 224 00:09:54,533 --> 00:09:57,166 would require or suggest 225 00:09:57,166 --> 00:09:59,333 child abuse or neglect. 226 00:09:59,333 --> 00:10:01,967 So, I'm telling you, that's trouble for you. 227 00:10:01,967 --> 00:10:05,734 All I want to hear now is, you claim she assaulted you. 228 00:10:05,734 --> 00:10:07,133 That's your counter claim. 229 00:10:07,133 --> 00:10:08,667 I don't want to hear about anything else. 230 00:10:08,667 --> 00:10:11,433 - You claim she assaulted you. - Well, we have [indistinct] 231 00:10:11,433 --> 00:10:13,333 - [Judy] Just a second. - ...that we also have defamation. 232 00:10:13,333 --> 00:10:14,633 All I care about... 233 00:10:14,633 --> 00:10:15,800 You have to understand, 234 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,567 I find that what you and/or your daughter did, 235 00:10:18,567 --> 00:10:22,333 by calling Child Protective Services, vindictive and vile. 236 00:10:22,333 --> 00:10:25,200 And it took people who should be out there 237 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,700 really looking to take care of children 238 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:30,467 who are really abused and/or neglected, 239 00:10:30,467 --> 00:10:33,700 took their time to come out, do an investigation, 240 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:36,333 all because of vindictiveness. 241 00:10:36,333 --> 00:10:38,000 'Cause I saw nothing. 242 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,400 - If I were trying a neglect case... Hey! - I have video... 243 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,400 - ...of a cop telling me to call CPS. - [Judy] Just a second. Just a second. 244 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,667 I don't care. 245 00:10:45,667 --> 00:10:48,133 You have shown me the basis 246 00:10:48,133 --> 00:10:50,767 that you used to call Child Protective Services. 247 00:10:50,767 --> 00:10:52,333 You took the video of it. 248 00:10:52,333 --> 00:10:53,834 And I'm telling you 249 00:10:53,834 --> 00:10:56,667 that was my business for a quarter of a century. 250 00:10:56,667 --> 00:10:59,533 I would never make a finding of neglect 251 00:10:59,533 --> 00:11:02,567 based upon anything that you had here. 252 00:11:02,567 --> 00:11:03,633 Anything. 253 00:11:03,633 --> 00:11:06,066 So, now, follow directions. 254 00:11:06,066 --> 00:11:07,467 You know, I told you, 255 00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:10,633 - I'm an equal-opportunity abuser. - [audience laughs] 256 00:11:10,633 --> 00:11:13,667 I told her, she's got to learn how to parallel park, 257 00:11:13,667 --> 00:11:16,200 and not tell people where to park on the street. 258 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,400 All I'm interested from you is, 259 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,367 tell me about this assault that you allege occurred? 260 00:11:21,367 --> 00:11:23,667 So, the night of the assault, and we have video of it... 261 00:11:23,667 --> 00:11:24,967 - I have to get that ready. - [Judy] Just a... Date? 262 00:11:24,967 --> 00:11:26,767 Just a second. Date? 263 00:11:26,767 --> 00:11:29,934 November 27th, this past year, 2022. 264 00:11:29,934 --> 00:11:31,033 It was in the evening. 265 00:11:31,033 --> 00:11:33,100 I was outside changing my cameras, 266 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:35,967 {\an8}and she came home and took my trash can. 267 00:11:35,967 --> 00:11:37,266 {\an8}'Cause she had put hers in front of my car 268 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:38,867 {\an8}that day, or the day before. 269 00:11:38,867 --> 00:11:41,333 - And the cops even... Because at first... - [Judy] No, no, no! 270 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:42,967 - Don't go off on a tangent. - [Pamela] Okay. 271 00:11:42,967 --> 00:11:45,467 - All right. - [Pamela] So she took my trash can, 272 00:11:45,467 --> 00:11:46,934 put it in the middle of the road. 273 00:11:46,934 --> 00:11:48,600 She likes to try to get me tickets, 274 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,767 so I went to go move it. 275 00:11:49,767 --> 00:11:53,000 She kept pulling it and pulling it and moving it back out there, 276 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,333 {\an8}so finally, I went to go grab her can to move it over. 277 00:11:55,333 --> 00:11:57,500 {\an8}Well, she ended up taking my can 278 00:11:57,500 --> 00:11:58,834 and going like this... 279 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:03,800 Literally, shoved it into me four times. 280 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,033 - I ended up with scratches and bruises. - Okay. 281 00:12:07,033 --> 00:12:09,100 I've got a back strain. 282 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:10,600 - And I agitated my arthritis. - [Judy] I'm going to see... 283 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,300 - [Judy] I'm going to see the vid... - I've got medical records. 284 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:14,900 Just a second. I'm going to see 285 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:17,000 the video of that and the police report. 286 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,700 - Can you pull that video? - Don't have my phone. 287 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:21,400 Your Honor, I have video of the whole incident. 288 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,266 - Is this hers? - [Bailiff] Yes. 289 00:12:23,266 --> 00:12:25,433 [indistinct conversation] 290 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:26,667 Pull up that video. 291 00:12:28,567 --> 00:12:30,033 We have it on the monitor if you want to see it. 292 00:12:30,033 --> 00:12:32,066 Oh, yeah. 293 00:12:32,066 --> 00:12:33,867 [Pamela speaking indistinctly] 294 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,734 [Lynette] I'm about to move it... 295 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,266 [Lynette] stupid ____. 296 00:12:46,066 --> 00:12:48,700 [Lynette] Let me park my car. 297 00:12:49,967 --> 00:12:51,800 [Lynette] Let me park my car. 298 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,133 - [Pamela] You can keep it up there. - [Lynette] I'm parallel parked. 299 00:12:55,066 --> 00:12:56,166 [Pamela] What you going to do? 300 00:12:57,433 --> 00:12:58,667 unintelligible 301 00:12:58,667 --> 00:13:00,467 [Lynette] I don't give a ____ . 302 00:13:00,467 --> 00:13:02,000 Let me park my car. 303 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,066 unintelligible 304 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:10,166 [man's voice] You gonna make her... you gonna make her do it. 305 00:13:10,166 --> 00:13:11,567 ____ is all about. 306 00:13:11,934 --> 00:13:13,033 Why you _______ . 307 00:13:13,033 --> 00:13:15,433 [Lynette] unintelligible ____ ___ 308 00:13:15,433 --> 00:13:17,467 unintelligible 309 00:13:17,467 --> 00:13:19,000 [Lynette] You want me to hit you? 310 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,900 {\an8}unintelligible 311 00:13:22,166 --> 00:13:24,300 - [Judy] I don't see any... - [Lynette] Your Honor, I have a video 312 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:25,367 - of the whole thing. - [Judy] Just a second. 313 00:13:25,367 --> 00:13:26,633 I don't see anything there. 314 00:13:26,633 --> 00:13:29,066 - [Lynette] Those are just clips... - [Judy] Just shh! 315 00:13:29,066 --> 00:13:30,600 - Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] I don't see anything there, 316 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,100 Ms. Jackson, I see two ladies fighting over the trash cans. 317 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:35,667 I don't see her assaulting you. 318 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:37,667 It was the trash can she got me with. 319 00:13:37,667 --> 00:13:39,433 [Judy] I don't see it. 320 00:13:39,433 --> 00:13:42,567 I don't see her going like this into you, four times. 321 00:13:42,567 --> 00:13:44,066 I don't see that. 322 00:13:44,066 --> 00:13:45,133 [audience chuckles] 323 00:13:45,133 --> 00:13:47,467 I don't see it. Now I'll look at a police report. 324 00:13:47,467 --> 00:13:48,900 That's your video. 325 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:51,767 Do you see her shoving a trash can into her four times? 326 00:13:51,767 --> 00:13:54,633 You can see that they come together with both trash cans, 327 00:13:54,633 --> 00:13:56,400 - but not much more. - [Judy] Okay. Yeah. 328 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,367 Stupid people acting stupid. 329 00:14:06,633 --> 00:14:08,166 Nonsense. Stupid. 330 00:14:08,166 --> 00:14:09,900 - Your Honor, I have a video... - [Judy] Stup... What? 331 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:12,600 ...of the whole incident of how it first started. 332 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,834 - [Judy] I'd like to see it. - 'Cause she made a... 333 00:14:14,834 --> 00:14:17,300 - [Pamela] I gave them all before. - [Judy] Pink phone. 334 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:18,834 [Pamela] Every angle of it. 335 00:14:18,834 --> 00:14:20,867 - [overlapping conversation] - Pink phone. 336 00:14:20,867 --> 00:14:21,900 Don't speak. I'm not... 337 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:23,467 [Lynette] She made another false accusation 338 00:14:23,467 --> 00:14:25,967 saying that I was the one who put it in the middle of the street. 339 00:14:25,967 --> 00:14:29,200 I came, and she was the one who came first 340 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,967 and started putting it in the middle of the street. 341 00:14:31,967 --> 00:14:33,433 And I'm going to find the video for you. 342 00:14:33,433 --> 00:14:35,300 [Judy] Yeah, you know, I really don't care. 343 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:37,200 - Listen to me, Ms. Hernandez. - [Lynette] Yes, ma'am. 344 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,734 Pick up... Take your phone. 345 00:14:38,734 --> 00:14:40,533 - [Judy] I really don't care. - Okay. 346 00:14:40,533 --> 00:14:42,200 I looked there and I don't see an assault. 347 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,467 - Okay. - I don't see an assault, 348 00:14:43,467 --> 00:14:45,633 and that's really all I was interested in. 349 00:14:48,333 --> 00:14:50,300 You showed me your best evidence. 350 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,767 You said, "I have it all recorded 351 00:14:52,767 --> 00:14:55,266 why I called Child Protective Services." 352 00:14:55,266 --> 00:14:57,266 - [Pamela] Because I couldn't... - That's it. Hey... Hey... 353 00:14:57,266 --> 00:15:00,533 This is not a because. This is not a because. 354 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,633 [theme music playing] 355 00:15:12,333 --> 00:15:13,967 {\an8}[narrator] Defendant Pamela Jackson 356 00:15:13,967 --> 00:15:17,333 {\an8}is accusing her neighbor, Lynette Hernandez, 357 00:15:17,333 --> 00:15:19,400 {\an8}of abusing her children. 358 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,800 Lynette claims Pamela posted damaging content 359 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,166 on her social media. 360 00:15:24,166 --> 00:15:26,800 Okay. Ms. Jackson, when we started out this case, 361 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,700 I said to Ms. Hernandez, in effect, 362 00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:30,033 "Don't be a big baby. 363 00:15:30,033 --> 00:15:32,500 "You have to park your car. Learn to parallel park. 364 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:34,200 "And you can't tell somebody else that they can't park 365 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,433 in front of their house." 366 00:15:35,433 --> 00:15:36,934 And you were absolutely right. 367 00:15:36,934 --> 00:15:38,500 - Right? - Mm-hmm. 368 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:40,367 You owe her $5,000. 369 00:15:40,367 --> 00:15:43,467 I'm entering a judgement on her behalf for $5,000, 370 00:15:43,467 --> 00:15:46,333 for your erroneous call to Child Protective Services. 371 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:47,734 That's my judgement. 372 00:15:47,734 --> 00:15:50,567 Don't do it again. Don't take... 373 00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:52,533 - If I could explain where I came from. - [Judy] Wait! I'm speaking! 374 00:15:52,533 --> 00:15:53,633 - There's a reason. - [Judy] I'm speaking. 375 00:15:53,633 --> 00:15:55,767 Hey, listen to me. Listen to me. 376 00:15:55,767 --> 00:15:57,300 I'm speaking. 377 00:15:57,300 --> 00:15:59,266 You showed me your best evidence. 378 00:15:59,266 --> 00:16:02,033 You said, "I have it all recorded 379 00:16:02,033 --> 00:16:04,500 why I called Child Protective Services." 380 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:05,834 You showed me. 381 00:16:05,834 --> 00:16:07,800 There was nothing there. 382 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,867 In the videos you showed me... 383 00:16:09,867 --> 00:16:11,567 - Because they're clips. I couldn't... - [Judy] Hey! Hey! 384 00:16:11,567 --> 00:16:13,800 - ...just say what led up to that. - [Judy] This is not a because. 385 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,533 This is not a because. This is not a because. 386 00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:20,700 I also find what you posted on TikTok abhorrent. 387 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:23,066 - What she posted was worse. - [Judy] I'm speaking... I'm... 388 00:16:23,066 --> 00:16:24,567 And it's viral. You didn't give me 389 00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:25,967 - a chance to present that. - [Judy] Just a second. 390 00:16:25,967 --> 00:16:29,100 The only thing that I'm hearing 391 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,667 are the calls to Child Protective Services 392 00:16:31,667 --> 00:16:33,533 and your assault. 393 00:16:33,533 --> 00:16:35,000 I didn't see the assault, 394 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,166 but I saw Child Protective Services. 395 00:16:37,166 --> 00:16:39,900 Judgement for the plaintiff in the amount of $5,000. 396 00:16:39,900 --> 00:16:41,900 Your counter claim's dismissed. We're finished. 397 00:16:41,900 --> 00:16:43,867 [Bailiff] This court is adjourned. 398 00:16:48,367 --> 00:16:50,000 I overheard a lot more than what was, 399 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,867 and saw a lot more than what was being shown. 400 00:16:51,867 --> 00:16:55,333 I got justice, because you shouldn't waste resources, 401 00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:57,033 you know, on something... 402 00:16:57,033 --> 00:17:00,567 on accusations, sick and false like that. 403 00:17:00,567 --> 00:17:02,300 I wouldn't have all these cameras 404 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:04,533 if she wasn't constantly harassing me, 405 00:17:04,533 --> 00:17:05,834 calling the police on me. 406 00:17:05,834 --> 00:17:08,900 Everybody gets along except for her. She's the problem. 407 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:10,867 She wants to become TikTok famous 408 00:17:10,867 --> 00:17:13,200 when she realized her videos of defamation 409 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,800 against my mother was getting a big hit. 410 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,000 She was like, "Okay, I'm gonna keep this on." 411 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,967 I'm not trying. It just happened. 412 00:17:19,967 --> 00:17:21,433 We've tried to ignore her. 413 00:17:21,433 --> 00:17:23,000 She's the one that keeps doing it. 414 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,433 There's been things that she's done 415 00:17:24,433 --> 00:17:26,667 and it's just all out of pettiness. 416 00:17:26,667 --> 00:17:28,333 Wait for the police to finally arrest her. 417 00:17:28,333 --> 00:17:29,867 Thank you, Judy Justice. 418 00:17:31,033 --> 00:17:33,166 - So, I have two comments. - Okay. 419 00:17:33,166 --> 00:17:34,367 'Cause we've had lots of cases 420 00:17:34,367 --> 00:17:36,000 that are about the parking spaces, 421 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,100 parking in the street, and that sort of stuff. 422 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:41,033 And how neighbors start off wrong, 423 00:17:41,033 --> 00:17:43,300 usually because of something. 424 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,200 This was a car thing. 425 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,934 But you have to be sensitive to the limited resources 426 00:17:48,934 --> 00:17:51,667 of people who are supposed to protect children, 427 00:17:51,667 --> 00:17:53,166 and if you keep calling them over 428 00:17:53,166 --> 00:17:55,200 nonsense, because it really emanated 429 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,367 from a parking space. 430 00:17:56,367 --> 00:17:58,700 "She touched me car," "It's parked too close." 431 00:17:58,700 --> 00:18:00,967 - That's not a tool. - Yeah. 432 00:18:00,967 --> 00:18:03,934 That's not a tool, and we have to fortify 433 00:18:03,934 --> 00:18:06,800 that statement that it's not a tool 434 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,667 to call a governmental agency that has limited resources 435 00:18:10,667 --> 00:18:13,033 because somebody's bumping into your car. 436 00:18:13,033 --> 00:18:15,834 - Yeah. - And there are ramifications 437 00:18:15,834 --> 00:18:17,934 of posting that sort of stuff 438 00:18:17,934 --> 00:18:21,133 without any modicum 439 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:23,000 - of proof. - [Sarah] Mm-hmm. 440 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,300 Just because you're making up this... 441 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:26,533 - ...fantasy in your head. - I was pretty outraged 442 00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:28,567 listening to that as well, hearing... 443 00:18:28,567 --> 00:18:32,066 Like you had said, I could speak to a friend or a family member at home 444 00:18:32,066 --> 00:18:34,300 and say, "I've seen some weird things about my neighbor 445 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:37,000 Not sure if something weird is going on there." 446 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,667 But those were concrete, seemingly factual statements 447 00:18:40,667 --> 00:18:42,867 that she was making about her neighbor 448 00:18:42,867 --> 00:18:43,934 that were inaccurate, 449 00:18:43,934 --> 00:18:45,266 and like you said, had no basis. 450 00:18:45,266 --> 00:18:48,266 - If true, she belongs in jail. - Yep. 451 00:18:48,266 --> 00:18:50,500 - Which is not true. - No. 452 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:52,000 - In my judgement. - Mm-hmm. 453 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,900 Just, the limited contact that I had, 454 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:55,834 - they both behaved badly. - Mm-hmm. 455 00:18:55,834 --> 00:18:58,667 [chuckles] I was talking about this gen whatever-it-is... 456 00:18:58,667 --> 00:18:59,967 Oh, us Gen Z. 457 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:02,200 You realize that's my generation as well. 458 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,533 - Yeah, I... Yes, it is. - [Sarah laughs] 459 00:19:04,533 --> 00:19:07,066 - So... - Go easy on us. Heh. 460 00:19:07,066 --> 00:19:08,900 - I've... - Remember who raised us. 461 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:10,000 - [Judy] Yes, I know. - Yeah. 462 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,934 Probably part of it was us. 463 00:19:11,934 --> 00:19:13,467 But I heard a really funny story. 464 00:19:13,467 --> 00:19:15,500 We were talking about this entitlement, you know, 465 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:16,900 young people and entitlement, 466 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:20,500 and, heh, one of my friends said, 467 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:24,000 "I went into a store", you know, where they usually have one shoe out, 468 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,533 and if you want the other one, 469 00:19:25,533 --> 00:19:29,333 you have to ask a sales associate to please get you the other shoe, 470 00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:30,500 to prevent people from walking out 471 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:31,900 - with two shoes. - [Sarah] Sure. 472 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:34,400 So, he went over to the sales associate, 473 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,166 the place was relatively empty, he said to the sales associate, 474 00:19:37,166 --> 00:19:39,533 "Could I get the mate of this shoe?" 475 00:19:39,533 --> 00:19:41,667 And this kid who was about 25, 476 00:19:41,667 --> 00:19:45,000 28 years old, you know, looked like a schlump, 477 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,567 his response to him was, "Why me?" 478 00:19:48,567 --> 00:19:50,100 - [laughs] -"Why me?" 479 00:19:50,100 --> 00:19:51,800 "Why did you ask me there?" 480 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,166 "Four other sales associates here who could get you the other shoe. 481 00:19:55,166 --> 00:19:56,500 Why did you pick me?" 482 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:59,100 - [laughs] Bizarre. - Yeah. 483 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:02,700 I'm praying for some sort of a miracle for this generation, 484 00:20:02,700 --> 00:20:04,700 some sort of an awakening. 485 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:06,133 - Anyway... - There's some good ones 486 00:20:06,133 --> 00:20:07,100 in the generation 487 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:08,500 - that might just save us, so... - There is some great ones. 488 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:09,967 - Just a minute. There are great ones. - [Sarah laughs] 489 00:20:09,967 --> 00:20:11,567 There are... There are great ones, 490 00:20:11,567 --> 00:20:13,000 but there's a very unfortunate thing, 491 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,734 because neither one of these two people are moving. 492 00:20:14,734 --> 00:20:15,667 Yeah. 493 00:20:17,333 --> 00:20:18,700 [narrator] Are you a victim of an assault? 494 00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:21,066 Go to JudyJustice.tv 495 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:27,133 [theme music playing]