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Your daughter was involved
in a hit-and-run.
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I believe my daughter.
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Your daughter ran away.
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She's 14 years old,
she could've killed people.
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When did you call the police?
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The answer is you did not!
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Well, this is the example
that you're setting.
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That's a great lesson.
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This is Judy Justice.
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Tonya Atkins
is suing vehicle owner Kelly Depangher
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for damages and lost wages
from a car accident.
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Court, come to order.
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All rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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Hello, Judge.
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Case 2165, Atkins versus Depangher.
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- Thank you very much.
- You're welcome.
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- Tell me your first name.
- Destanie.
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How old are you, Destanie?
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I'm 14.
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And you don't have a driver's license.
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No, ma'am.
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So you know you're not allowed
to drive a car?
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Yes, I do.
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You took your mother's car
without permission.
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I did.
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You were with a girlfriend.
- Yes, ma'am.
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Who also is your age.
- Mm-hmm.
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"Uh-huh" is not an answer.
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Yes, ma'am.
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And you stole your mother's car
on what date?
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October 7th or 8th.
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Where was your mother?
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Sleeping.
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{\an8}What time did you steal your mother's car?
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{\an8}Around, uh...
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4:00, 3:00.
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- Around that time.
- What?
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Like, I'd say about 3:30.
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I'm sorry.
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The morning, afternoon, or evening?
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In the morning, a.m.
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- 3:30 in the morning.
- Yes, ma'am.
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And you had an accident.
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Yes, ma'am.
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You had an accident with this lady's car.
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Yes, ma'am.
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And instead of stopping,
you took off. Right?
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Yes, ma'am.
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And it was a bad accident.
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Yes, ma'am.
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And was the damage
to the side of your car?
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Just... Just...
- It was...
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Was the damage to the side of your car?
No, ma'am.
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Passenger side?
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No, ma'am.
Just...
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Don't play.
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Passenger side? No.
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Driver's side? No.
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Where was the damage to your car?
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{\an8}The front.
Front!
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{\an8}Okay, so now that I've got
the clear picture.
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You stole your mother's car.
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You have no driver's license.
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Whatever insurance
your mother had on the car
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would certainly not cover
this accident
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{\an8}because you're an unauthorized driver,
you have no driver's license.
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{\an8}Your mother certainly wasn't going
to report you to the police
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for stealing her car.
I don't think you did that.
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- Right?
- No, ma'am.
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And the damage to your car
was in the front.
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Front.
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You're gonna tell me,
but just so that I know,
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{\an8}the damage to your car was on the side.
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{\an8}Yes, ma'am.
Of course.
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{\an8}You see, cars don't slide together.
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Do you know what I mean?
One car hits another.
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Mm-hmm.
Do you understand?
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-"Uh-huh" is not an answer.
- Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
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Better.
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Okay, so now we're gonna go
to October 8th.
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Yes, Your Honor.
Okay?
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You were on your way to work?
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Yes, ma'am.
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And, Miss Atkins, tell me what happened.
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I was going to work,
it was 5:30 in the morning.
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I was going up Franklin Road.
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I got to Brookville Road.
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You were driving straight.
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Yes, I'm going up Franklin Road.
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Mm-hmm.
- I get to a light at Brookville Road,
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I make a stop because the light is red.
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I'm sitting at the red light,
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the light changes green,
I proceed to go through the light,
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at the green light.
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The defendant is coming
the opposite way from me.
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She's in the... not in the turning lane,
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she's in the regular straight lane,
so I see her coming at a rapid speed.
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But I'm thinking she's going straight,
so I proceed to go through the light.
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By the time I get mid-light,
I don't know what happened,
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but she decides to turn.
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{\an8}And when she turns,
she turns right into me,
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{\an8}like, and hits me.
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{\an8}Okay, and then what happened?
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And then I hear her
and her friends are...
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Her friend is hollering, "Run, Destanie!
We have to go!
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Run, Destanie! We have to go!"
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{\an8}I'm still trying to get myself together.
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{\an8}And I'm looking
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{\an8}and all I could do was grab my phone
and dial 911 to call the police.
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And by that time, they were gone.
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Miss Atkins, how did you find her?
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We talked to the insurance company...
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No, no, wait, wait a second.
- Okay.
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How did you find her? They took off.
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Oh, they took off.
They took off.
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Her car was still at the accident.
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Oh! So they ran and left the car.
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Yes, ma'am.
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Ohh.
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So my husband came,
I had called my husband as well.
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He came to the accident scene.
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He took pictures of the cars
and the plates.
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And we contacted our insurance,
our insurance gave us the name,
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and I went on Facebook
and I looked her up.
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And I seen Destanie,
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who I had seen run from the accident.
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And we found out
she was hiring for a job, so...
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inboxed her, found out where she worked,
and we went to her job.
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- You mean the... her mother.
- Her mother.
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Inboxed me?
Mother.
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My daughter inboxed you
and asked you what...
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Shh, don't speak to her.
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Okay, I'm sorry.
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Don't speak to her.
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Okay.
What?
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Listen to me.
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{\an8}Whatever you say is no good.
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Just understand that.
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Your daughter stole your car,
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she's 14 years old,
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she could've killed people.
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She could've killed people.
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There's no excuse for that.
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There's no excuse for stealing your car.
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- Has she ever done it before?
- No.
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But she did.
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Yes, ma'am.
Okay?
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And she did, and she had an accident.
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Because she didn't have
a driver's license,
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she lacked state permission
to be behind the wheel of a car.
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Let's go. Did you know your daughter
had been in an accident?
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Of course you did
'cause she left the car there.
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- Right?
- Yes.
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So you knew she had been in an accident.
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Yes.
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Did you contact the police?
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No.
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Why not?
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Tonya Atkins
claims vehicle owner Kelly Depangher
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owes for damages
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after Kelly's 14-year-old daughter
crashed into her car.
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So she didn't have
a driver's license,
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she lacked state permission
to be behind the wheel of a car.
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But she still harassed me, though.
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What?
- At my job.
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She harassed me at my job.
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Just a second.
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Did she contact you first?
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Well, as far as...
Just as anything... it's contact.
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No.
Email.
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- So you're going to tell me...
- I don't know who her daughter was.
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What?
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I didn't know who her daughter was,
trying to contact me on Facebook.
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Did you know your daughter
had been in an accident?
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Let's go. Did you know your daughter
had been in an accident?
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Of course you did
'cause she left the car there.
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- Right?
- Yes.
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So you knew she had been in an accident.
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Yes.
Right?
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Did you contact the police?
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No.
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Why not?
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{\an8}She came to the house freaking out,
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{\an8}and, you know, in panic
of her getting in an accident.
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- And my daughter is telling me...
- Just a second. So what did you do?
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What did you do?
Your daughter stole your car.
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I see the picture of the accident.
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The picture of the accident clearly shows
that your daughter hit her car.
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Your daughter's car is the grey one.
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This is the very first time
I've seen this.
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Well, I'm telling you.
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When you have front-end damage
that means you hit somebody.
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She's wrong from the get-go.
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So I'm asking you, she came home,
you told somebody,
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did you call the police and say,
"Listen, my 14-year-old daughter
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took my car without permission,
there was a bad accident.
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I hope nobody was hurt."
Did you do that?
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No, I did not. No.
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Of course not.
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You waited for somebody to find you.
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No, not necessarily. Well...
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What do you mean "not necessarily"?
Unless you contacted somebody.
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- Did you go back to...
- I was under the impression that
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they called the police. I...
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How did... just a second,
what would give you that impression?
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Your daughter ran away.
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She said that cops were called.
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How did she know the cops were called?
She ran away.
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- What?
- The cops were there.
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One of the...
a cop had spoke to me that night.
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- I was...
- After the accident.
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No, before. I mean, yeah,
after the accident, but...
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Well, the accident happened
3:30 in the morning.
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The officer spoke to you at night,
that's after the accident.
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Yes, ma'am,
but there's a fire department
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right by where
we got into the accident at.
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{\an8}And there was a police car parked
while I was fleeing the scene.
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And he had asked me what I was doing.
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And I told him that I was fine,
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and that there has just been
a car accident.
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And he went.
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And the policeman told you to leave?
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No.
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You stopped and spoke to a policeman,
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that there had been
this kind of car accident,
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that you were driving...
I said that...
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...you were driving
and the policeman told you to leave?
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I never said that I was driving, ma'am.
Okay.
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Did you notify your insurance company?
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Unfortunately...
Shh!
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That's either a yes or a no.
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No, because I don't have insurance,
it lapsed.
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Double whammy.
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It lapsed.
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So your daughter follows
in her mother's...
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This is the example that you're setting.
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She's driving your car without a license,
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and you have a car that has no insurance.
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{\an8}That's a great lesson.
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{\an8}And so what happens
is a perfect storm.
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Your car without insurance,
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driven by your unlicensed minor child,
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causes a stupendous accident
where someone could have been killed.
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You don't call the police.
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Did you go and look
at the scene of the accident?
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It's either a yes or a no.
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Not the scene.
The scene.
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I'm talking about the scene
of the accident.
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Your daughter came home,
did she tell you right away what happened?
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Shh! What time did your daughter get home?
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About 7:00 or 8:00 in the morning.
253
00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,667
Well, where did she go
after the accident? Did you ask her?
254
00:09:55,667 --> 00:09:57,233
She was waiting for a ride.
255
00:09:57,233 --> 00:10:01,100
She had woke me up in my sleep
and told me about the accident.
256
00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:05,400
So the accident that happened
3:30 in the morning, according to her,
257
00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,033
or 5:30, so she was driving around
for a couple of hours
258
00:10:09,033 --> 00:10:10,533
before the accident happened,
259
00:10:10,533 --> 00:10:13,467
happened 5:30,
an hour and a half later,
260
00:10:13,467 --> 00:10:15,367
- she woke you up?
- Yes.
261
00:10:15,367 --> 00:10:16,867
Is that what you're telling me?
- Yes, ma'am.
262
00:10:16,867 --> 00:10:18,934
And did she tell you
where the accident happened?
263
00:10:18,934 --> 00:10:20,000
Yes.
264
00:10:19,734 --> 00:10:20,967
And what did you do?
- We...
265
00:10:20,967 --> 00:10:23,734
7:30 in the morning,
she had a terrible accident,
266
00:10:23,734 --> 00:10:25,934
she told you where it happened.
267
00:10:25,934 --> 00:10:28,700
Did she tell you that she ran away
from the accident?
268
00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:30,000
Yes.
269
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000
What did you do?
270
00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,934
Well, she does have severe asthma.
Just a sec.
271
00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:38,533
I don't care whether she has severe asthma
or not, it's irrelevant to me.
272
00:10:38,533 --> 00:10:42,300
- I'm asking you what you did.
- Right.
273
00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:45,333
What you did. Your daughter calls you...
274
00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:47,533
- Not from the house.
- She comes in the house.
275
00:10:47,533 --> 00:10:49,967
Oh, I thought you said she called you.
276
00:10:49,967 --> 00:10:51,033
Not important.
277
00:10:51,033 --> 00:10:56,467
She came into the house at 7:30,
she told you that she stole the car,
278
00:10:56,467 --> 00:10:59,433
went for a joyride with her friend,
whatever language she used,
279
00:10:59,433 --> 00:11:02,767
and she had a very bad accident,
the car was demolished.
280
00:11:02,767 --> 00:11:03,834
Mm-hmm.
Right?
281
00:11:03,734 --> 00:11:06,300
Yes, ma'am.
What did you do?
282
00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:07,800
7:30 in the morning,
I wanna know what you did,
283
00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,266
7:30, 8:00, 8:30, 9:00.
284
00:11:10,266 --> 00:11:11,367
What did you do?
285
00:11:11,367 --> 00:11:14,467
She wakes me up, I'm freaking out,
she's freaking out...
286
00:11:14,467 --> 00:11:16,066
I don't care freaking...
I don't care freaking out.
287
00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:17,667
- It's not relevant.
- What did you do?
288
00:11:17,667 --> 00:11:19,633
Don't speak to your mother.
289
00:11:19,633 --> 00:11:22,600
I'm asking your mother a question.
290
00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,400
What did you do?
291
00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,333
As soon as she told me that,
I was freaking out about it,
292
00:11:29,333 --> 00:11:30,934
and I went into mommy mode
293
00:11:30,934 --> 00:11:35,967
{\an8}because she was outside in hours,
cold, cold, waiting for a ride,
294
00:11:35,967 --> 00:11:39,233
and she was having asthma problems,
she was in a panic.
295
00:11:39,233 --> 00:11:41,700
So I immediately, you know, I was trying
to figure out what's going on,
296
00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:44,066
but I also wanted to make sure
that my daughter was okay.
297
00:11:44,066 --> 00:11:46,033
Oh, well, that takes a half hour.
So I went to her room...
298
00:11:46,033 --> 00:11:48,166
That takes a half hour.
What did you do at 8:00?
299
00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:50,633
And I gave her a breathing treatment.
300
00:11:50,633 --> 00:11:51,934
After you gave her
the breathing treatment,
301
00:11:51,934 --> 00:11:54,533
that's 8:00, now it's 8:15.
302
00:11:54,533 --> 00:11:59,266
As we're giving her treatment,
we're looking through the internet
303
00:11:59,266 --> 00:12:03,600
{\an8}and looking to see what tow companies...
what place would have our car.
304
00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,033
And we finally figured out
where our car was,
305
00:12:06,033 --> 00:12:07,567
and I got a ride to go look at my car.
306
00:12:07,567 --> 00:12:09,533
What time? What time?
307
00:12:09,533 --> 00:12:11,400
I would say maybe about 9:00, 10:00.
308
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,400
Okay, when was the call to the police?
309
00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,400
Now you took care of your daughter,
you gave her a breathing treatment.
310
00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,867
You looked through the internet.
When did you call the police?
311
00:12:19,867 --> 00:12:22,400
Your daughter was involved
in a hit-and-run.
312
00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,767
I was under the assumption
that the police were called.
313
00:12:24,767 --> 00:12:26,133
Who told you that?
314
00:12:26,133 --> 00:12:27,300
That the police was at the scene.
315
00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:28,367
Just a second.
316
00:12:28,367 --> 00:12:30,567
Who told you that? She ran away.
317
00:12:30,567 --> 00:12:36,066
Well, I did know that the car
got sent to a police, like, impound,
318
00:12:36,066 --> 00:12:37,233
like, towing company.
319
00:12:37,233 --> 00:12:38,967
You didn't know that
until you looked it up.
320
00:12:38,967 --> 00:12:40,033
Right.
321
00:12:39,767 --> 00:12:41,767
I'm asking you
when you called the police.
322
00:12:41,767 --> 00:12:42,834
So I...
323
00:12:42,567 --> 00:12:44,467
The answer is you did not.
- No, I did not.
324
00:12:44,467 --> 00:12:48,467
Okay, now, so I don't have
to go look any further.
325
00:12:48,467 --> 00:12:50,467
No insurance.
326
00:12:50,467 --> 00:12:52,333
No driver's license.
327
00:12:52,333 --> 00:12:54,200
Fled the scene. Her fault.
328
00:12:56,867 --> 00:12:59,734
How dare you have a car
on the road without insurance.
329
00:12:59,734 --> 00:13:02,934
And how dare you
place other people at risk
330
00:13:02,934 --> 00:13:05,000
by getting behind the wheel of a car
331
00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000
when you're 14 years old
and have no business doing that.
332
00:13:19,033 --> 00:13:23,734
Tonya Atkins is accusing
vehicle owner Kelly Depangher
333
00:13:23,734 --> 00:13:26,066
of refusing to pay for damages
334
00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:30,400
after Kelly's 14-year-old daughter
crashed into Tonya's car.
335
00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,367
- So now you have insurance.
- Yes, ma'am.
336
00:13:33,367 --> 00:13:36,133
And there was a note on the car.
- Yes, ma'am.
337
00:13:36,133 --> 00:13:37,200
The car is totaled.
338
00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,934
It looks like it's a totaled car to me.
Yes, ma'am.
339
00:13:39,934 --> 00:13:42,133
How much was left on the note for the car?
340
00:13:42,133 --> 00:13:43,567
35,000.
341
00:13:43,567 --> 00:13:46,133
Was left on the note?
- Yes, ma'am.
342
00:13:46,133 --> 00:13:47,734
Okay, I'll take a look
at those papers in a sec.
343
00:13:47,734 --> 00:13:49,667
And then what was the check
from insurance?
344
00:13:49,667 --> 00:13:51,300
They paid 30,000.
345
00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:52,567
Can I see, please?
346
00:13:54,533 --> 00:13:59,033
Uh-oh. I don't have my glasses,
and they're in my purse, I'm sorry. Can...
347
00:13:59,033 --> 00:14:01,367
- Maybe your husband can help you.
- Yes, ma'am, thank you.
348
00:14:09,467 --> 00:14:10,467
Thank you.
349
00:14:10,367 --> 00:14:11,367
Yes, ma'am.
350
00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:19,433
So am I correct
that they paid you 35,749?
351
00:14:19,433 --> 00:14:20,700
Is that what they paid you?
352
00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:22,667
That's what they paid the dealership,
yes, ma'am.
353
00:14:22,667 --> 00:14:27,700
35,749, and the amount financed
was 39,800?
354
00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:28,767
That is correct.
355
00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:30,333
And you hadn't made any payments?
356
00:14:30,333 --> 00:14:32,333
Yes, ma'am, we've made payments.
357
00:14:32,333 --> 00:14:36,133
This is 39,826,
but you made payments,
358
00:14:36,133 --> 00:14:39,000
so that would reduce
the amount of the loan.
359
00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,600
This is the original copy
of when we purchased the vehicle.
360
00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,133
And then I have a list of the payments
that we made right here.
361
00:14:46,133 --> 00:14:47,700
What I want to know is,
362
00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:52,066
you're suing for the difference
between what was paid...
363
00:14:52,066 --> 00:14:54,300
Yes, ma'am.
...to the loan company
364
00:14:54,300 --> 00:14:57,834
and what you still owed
that you had to make good on.
365
00:14:57,834 --> 00:15:00,066
- Correct?
- Correct.
366
00:15:00,066 --> 00:15:02,900
How much money
did you have to make good on
367
00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:03,967
to the loan company?
368
00:15:03,834 --> 00:15:06,633
- It's not $5,000.
- No.
369
00:15:06,633 --> 00:15:11,667
How much money did you have to pay
the loan company
370
00:15:11,667 --> 00:15:13,433
to clear the debt?
371
00:15:13,433 --> 00:15:15,734
{\an8}What we had was called a gap insurance.
372
00:15:15,734 --> 00:15:17,266
So you had gap.
- Yes, ma'am.
373
00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:19,333
So all you had was a deductible.
374
00:15:19,333 --> 00:15:21,367
So all you had to pay was,
if you had gap...
375
00:15:21,367 --> 00:15:23,567
Which was a $500 deductible.
Just a sec.
376
00:15:23,567 --> 00:15:24,633
Sorry.
That's all.
377
00:15:24,633 --> 00:15:26,934
That's what I wanna know,
you had gap insurance,
378
00:15:26,934 --> 00:15:28,567
so the gap covered whatever the...
379
00:15:28,567 --> 00:15:31,734
The gap didn't cover
the complete loss of the vehicle
380
00:15:31,734 --> 00:15:34,400
because they said we didn't have
uninsured motorist.
381
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,100
So we had to come out of pocket.
382
00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:38,800
So now I want you to show me...
- Yes, ma'am.
383
00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,967
...what your out of pocket was.
384
00:15:47,433 --> 00:15:48,667
Thank you.
- Yes, ma'am.
385
00:15:52,967 --> 00:15:54,133
I'm not understanding this.
386
00:15:54,133 --> 00:15:56,266
You wanna tell me what
the out of pocket is?
387
00:15:56,266 --> 00:15:58,467
Gap paid the...
Gap paid. How much?
388
00:15:58,467 --> 00:16:02,033
The rest besides 17... 1,756.
389
00:16:02,033 --> 00:16:04,567
Yes, ma'am. That's what we owe,
out of pocket.
390
00:16:04,567 --> 00:16:07,233
Okay. Not 5,000. 1,756.
No, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
391
00:16:07,233 --> 00:16:08,400
Okay.
392
00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:09,900
Well, that certainly
has to make you whole.
393
00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:12,934
I knew it wasn't 5,000
because it says you have gap insurance.
394
00:16:12,934 --> 00:16:14,000
- Yes. Yes, ma'am.
- Yes, ma'am.
395
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,834
Great. 1,756.
396
00:16:15,834 --> 00:16:18,667
{\an8}Now, you were taken
from that accident scene
397
00:16:18,667 --> 00:16:20,266
{\an8}- to the hospital?
- Yes, ma'am.
398
00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:21,633
Which hospital?
399
00:16:21,633 --> 00:16:22,900
To Community East.
400
00:16:22,900 --> 00:16:25,166
Were you taken by ambulance?
- Yes, ma'am.
401
00:16:25,166 --> 00:16:27,433
- Did you stay in the hospital?
- No, ma'am.
402
00:16:27,433 --> 00:16:30,467
Okay, did you have
any uncovered medical bills?
403
00:16:30,467 --> 00:16:31,533
No, ma'am.
404
00:16:31,367 --> 00:16:33,533
Were they all covered?
- Yes, ma'am.
405
00:16:33,533 --> 00:16:38,433
Okay, so your out-of-pocket expense
is $1,756.
406
00:16:38,433 --> 00:16:39,500
Yes, ma'am.
407
00:16:39,233 --> 00:16:42,667
And the discomfort that brought you
to the hospital.
408
00:16:42,667 --> 00:16:47,467
Yes, ma'am, and I have a lost wage paper
from my employer as well.
409
00:16:47,467 --> 00:16:48,834
I'd like to see it.
410
00:16:48,834 --> 00:16:52,667
Also, if I may say, ma'am,
we had to rent a car,
411
00:16:52,667 --> 00:16:56,066
obviously, because her car was totaled,
and the bill is in there as well.
412
00:16:56,066 --> 00:16:57,133
Mm-hmm.
413
00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,800
Mm-hmm.
414
00:17:01,467 --> 00:17:04,467
Well, your out-of-pocket expenses
including your lost wages
415
00:17:04,467 --> 00:17:06,433
because you didn't work full shift...
416
00:17:06,433 --> 00:17:08,767
You are an hourly employee.
417
00:17:08,767 --> 00:17:13,333
Those expenses, your car expenses,
the 1,756,
418
00:17:13,333 --> 00:17:15,533
all amount to about $3,000.
419
00:17:15,533 --> 00:17:18,400
You're suing the defendant
for $8,000.
420
00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,700
- Right?
- Yes, ma'am.
421
00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:21,100
I'm awarding you the $8,000.
422
00:17:21,100 --> 00:17:24,266
How dare you have a car on the road
without insurance.
423
00:17:24,266 --> 00:17:27,400
And how dare you
place other people at risk
424
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,533
by getting behind the wheel of a car
425
00:17:29,533 --> 00:17:32,734
when you're 14 years old
and have no business doing that.
426
00:17:32,734 --> 00:17:35,066
Do you own or rent your own home?
427
00:17:35,066 --> 00:17:36,200
We rent.
428
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,600
You rent. Do you work?
429
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:39,834
At the moment, no.
430
00:17:39,834 --> 00:17:41,834
Were you working then?
- Yes.
431
00:17:41,834 --> 00:17:44,900
Okay. What happened to your job?
That's what you're going to tell me.
432
00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:47,467
You're going to tell me she came
and she harassed...
433
00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:50,500
She harassed you at your job.
Tell me how.
434
00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:51,633
They both did.
435
00:17:51,633 --> 00:17:53,734
Well...
No, I just...
436
00:17:53,734 --> 00:17:55,834
Not both. Her.
437
00:17:55,834 --> 00:17:57,133
The...
Plaintiff.
438
00:17:57,133 --> 00:17:59,467
Well, her husband is the one
that did the talking.
439
00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:02,400
And he said?
And he told me...
440
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,066
{\an8}I have never seen the accident until now,
so I have no idea. I believe my daughter.
441
00:18:07,066 --> 00:18:08,967
Well, you shouldn't.
Why would you believe a thief?
442
00:18:08,967 --> 00:18:10,033
No.
- And a liar.
443
00:18:10,033 --> 00:18:12,033
Believe that what happened.
444
00:18:12,033 --> 00:18:14,266
But why would you believe
a thief and a liar?
445
00:18:14,266 --> 00:18:19,367
She may be a thief and a liar,
but she's not stupid.
446
00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:25,433
If the plaintiff hit her,
she would have stayed at the scene
447
00:18:25,433 --> 00:18:27,367
'cause she got hit.
448
00:18:27,367 --> 00:18:29,233
Doesn't that make sense to you?
449
00:18:29,233 --> 00:18:32,667
That if she was the one
who was in the right
450
00:18:32,667 --> 00:18:35,500
and got hit by the plaintiff,
451
00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:36,633
she would have remained.
452
00:18:36,633 --> 00:18:38,633
She said she saw a police car there.
453
00:18:38,633 --> 00:18:40,433
And she spoke to a policeman.
454
00:18:40,433 --> 00:18:43,266
So if she was in the right
in the accident,
455
00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:44,834
what'd she leave for?
456
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,900
Okay, you don't know.
457
00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:49,100
Judgement for the plaintiff, $8,000.
We're done.
458
00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:51,266
Thank you, Your Honor.
This court is adjourned.
459
00:18:51,266 --> 00:18:52,467
{\an8}It was very frightening.
460
00:18:52,467 --> 00:18:55,133
{\an8}I've never been in an accident before,
461
00:18:55,133 --> 00:18:58,333
{\an8}and so that time of morning
I'm on my way to work.
462
00:18:58,333 --> 00:19:00,667
So I'm not expecting that, of course.
463
00:19:00,667 --> 00:19:02,667
{\an8}I mean, my daughter took my car.
464
00:19:02,667 --> 00:19:04,767
{\an8}I'm glad that justice was served.
465
00:19:04,767 --> 00:19:09,967
{\an8}When I tried to come out to make the turn,
I seen her
466
00:19:09,967 --> 00:19:11,767
{\an8}and we crashed.
467
00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:15,600
{\an8}I really don't think she gets
the concept of what she done.
468
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:16,967
{\an8}I don't have a car.
469
00:19:16,967 --> 00:19:20,767
{\an8}And her mother doesn't either, obviously.
470
00:19:20,767 --> 00:19:22,433
{\an8}Single mom without a car.
471
00:19:22,433 --> 00:19:25,300
{\an8}I think she was trying to get out
of paying the money.
472
00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:28,066
{\an8}I mean, I immediately went into,
you know, mommy mode
473
00:19:28,066 --> 00:19:29,433
{\an8}because of her asthma issues.
474
00:19:29,433 --> 00:19:32,767
{\an8}And I think she also was only concerned
about her daughter,
475
00:19:32,767 --> 00:19:34,934
{\an8}which is another big issue to me, too.
476
00:19:34,934 --> 00:19:37,367
{\an8}But I was frantic,
I didn't know what to do.
477
00:19:37,367 --> 00:19:40,467
{\an8}You didn't never once mention,
"Well, I wanted to check
478
00:19:40,467 --> 00:19:42,300
{\an8}and see if the plaintiff was okay."
479
00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:44,200
{\an8}I mean, my daughter
could have been way worse.
480
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,000
{\an8}I'm just happy she's still here with me.
481
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,500
{\an8}Make sure you watch your kids.
482
00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:49,133
{\an8}I've been a single parent as well.
483
00:19:49,133 --> 00:19:50,266
{\an8}I raised three kids
484
00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:52,333
{\an8}and I've not had to deal
with this situation.
485
00:19:52,333 --> 00:19:53,967
{\an8}Don't lay your keys around.
486
00:19:55,266 --> 00:19:58,767
I will never understand parents
like the defendant,
487
00:19:58,767 --> 00:20:02,266
who cover for their children
who have done outrageous things.
488
00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:06,800
If I came home and told my father
and my mother that I'd stole their car,
489
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,934
was 14, driving a car,
490
00:20:08,934 --> 00:20:12,233
and fled the scene
of any type of accident,
491
00:20:12,233 --> 00:20:14,467
I would need a breathing treatment
after they were done with me.
492
00:20:14,467 --> 00:20:15,900
That is how it should be
493
00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:19,433
because that is how you raise
responsible, accountable children,
494
00:20:19,433 --> 00:20:20,967
to raise them into adults.
495
00:20:20,967 --> 00:20:22,934
I couldn't agree with you more.
496
00:20:24,533 --> 00:20:25,767
Want justice?
497
00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:28,266
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