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Tell me about this alleged assault.

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I asked to see our child.
She smacked my hand out the way,

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and she bites me.

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You called the police, you told them
that your boyfriend had assaulted you,

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he had kidnapped your baby,
and that he had guns in the house.

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Yes, Your Honor.

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My son could've been killed that day.

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[narrator]
This is Judy Justice.

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[theme music playing]

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[narrator] Ja'Quan Madyun
and Michelle Kerr-Madyun

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are suing Ja'Quan's ex-girlfriend,
Yezlyn Torres,

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for stolen property, false police reports
and an assault.

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[Kevin]
Court, come to order. All rise.

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[Judy]
Have a seat, please.

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Judge, case 4107,
Madyun, Kerr-Madyun versus Torres.

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-Thank you.
-You're welcome.

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[Judy]
Tell me where you met the defendant, sir.

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Uh, in an online dating website.

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[Judy]
And she was living where?

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In Orlando, Florida.

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And you were living where?

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In San Diego, California.

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[Judy] Couldn't have been farther apart
in the United States.

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For real.

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Couldn't find somebody
more geographically suitable?

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[Ja'Quan] Well, I'm 30 years old.
I figured I'd look on the other coast.

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Okay. You met in what month and year?

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June of 2023.

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And it looks to me,
if I remember your papers correctly,

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in the same month, the defendant moved
to where you were in California.

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No, not in the same month.
It was July we found out she was pregnant.

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Well, she had to have gotten together
with you, sir, before that.

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Correct. We didn't move
until December of 2023.

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-Oh, I moved there, sorry.
-You moved there?

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Correct.

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In what month and year
did you move to Orlando?

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-2023, what month?
-June.

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So, in the same month
that you met online,

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-you moved to Florida.
-Yeah.

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And you stayed with her?

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-[Ja'Quan] Yes, correct.
-[Judy] Were you working?

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Yes, I was. I was working two jobs.

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And what kind of work
was the defendant doing?

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Sleeping.

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What kind of work were you doing
in June?

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I have a sweets business
but I wasn't working at it at that time.

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[Judy]
Well, how were you supporting yourself?

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I don't. My dad was taking care of me.

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-[Judy] How old are you?
-Twenty-three.

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So, you weren't working.
He came to Florida, he got two jobs.

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Yes. I was in school at the time.
Well, enrolled in school.

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-[Judy] You weren't in school at the time.
-No.

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I was getting enrolled, in the process.

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Getting, shoulda, woulda, coulda.

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You were doing nothing. Your father
was supporting you at that time.

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Okay. So, he moved in.
And how long did you stay in Orlando?

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-For six months.
-Until?

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December, 2023.

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[Judy]
Of 2023.

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Now, by July, according to what I read,
you found out she was pregnant.

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Correct.

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Precautions! Bing-bing! Bing-bing!
Bing-bing! Bing-bing!

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Okay. And then, you moved
back to California.

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-The defendant came with you?
-Yes.

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And the baby was born in March or April?

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February 24th.

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February, that's pretty close.

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He was supposed to be born in March,
but he came a month early.

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-How big was he?
-I do not remember the weight.

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-[Judy] How big was he?
-Five pounds, eight ounces.

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So, he was a full-term baby.

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He was technically premature
due to the gestation period

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but he was born at the right weight
and everything.

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Can I add in that she was smoking
during the entire pregnancy?

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Smoking marijuana in a state
where it's not legal.

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-And he was born with THC in his system.
-And he was born with THC in his system.

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As a premature baby.
Which is what...

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Listen, sir, that's why
you're supposed to use precautions.

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You're supposed to think about
all these things

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and know the people
that you're making a baby with,

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so that you're secure
in who you're making a baby with.

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'Cause you're gonna have to be with them
for at least 20 years.

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That's why everybody says, listen,
that's why we call it dating, not mating.

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[chuckles]

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Anyway, this love affair
didn't last as long as a year.

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Baby was born in February, a little early.
You weren't married.

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Did you go to court
to be declared the father?

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I signed
a Voluntary Declaration of Parentage.

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And I'm on the birth certificate.

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Okay. So, no paternity test,
no DNA test, nothing?

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I mean, the hospital there said
that would be something I could do,

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but then, they did not help me
get that done.

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They didn't assist me
in getting that done.

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Well, you had two jobs.
Taking a DNA test is not difficult, sir.

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And then, that was another thing
that started another argument.

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I asked if that was a possibility to go
do one, and Yezlyn took that as offense

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that I was asking to get a DNA test done.

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And started treating me badly, basically,
because I asked to go do that.

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Because the hospital was telling me
I need to do that.

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You're suggesting I should've done that.
But I mentioned that

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and Yezlyn started to take that
as offense.

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Why would you take offense?

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I didn't, Your Honor.
He texted me before I had our son.

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We were arguing, and he texted me
something along the lines of,

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if the kid's even mine.

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He never once asked me
for a paternity test,

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he just questioned the paternity,
and then never got the test done.

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Okay. But you would have no issue
with a paternity test.

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-That's smart.
-Of course not.

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Okay. I'm just making a suggestion to you
that that's always wise.

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Because you have a baby
that was born relatively size full-term

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but born a month early.
You had just met in June.

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That means that you hit it lucky
the first time or not.

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So, if you were smart, that's what you do,
you have a paternity test.

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And when you go to court,
you can order that.

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Anyway, you came back to California
and you moved into a house

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that was owned by whom?

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Owned by my mother.

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-Was your mother living there?
-No.

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So, you let them move into a house
that you owned?

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-Yes.
-Who had that house belonged to?

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It belonged to my grandmother.
She had recently passed.

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So, you moved to California,
you were living in a house.

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-Who else was living with you?
-Miss Torres,

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and when our son was born,
our son was living there.

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-So, just the three of you.
-Correct.

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So, I'd like you to now tell me
what you're suing her for, sir.

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I know what your mom is.

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Your mom says, there was a kerfuffle,
you had an argument.

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She moved out.
Your mother is a party to this

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because your mother says that
there was some damage to the house

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when she moved out, and some items
that were taken that didn't belong to her.

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Some things that belonged to your mother.

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Correct.

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Okay. That's why you're here.
So, let's start with you first.

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Tell me, she moved out
in what month and year?

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She left actually twice.
You left twice.

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When did you leave?

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I left March of this year.

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-[Judy] March?
-Yes.

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-[Judy] Of 2024.
-Yes.

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I came back in April of the same year.

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Were you supposed to travel with him?

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-[Yezlyn] Uh, I called--
-Shh.

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Were you supposed to travel with a baby
who was less than two months old?

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I was never told I couldn't.

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Did you take him to the doctor?

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He had his first appointment, yes.

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Well, he didn't have his first shots
if he was less than a month old.

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You had a pediatrician?

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-In California?
-He had a pediatrician, yes.

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Okay. And you checked with
the pediatrician about travel with a baby

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before they're two months old
and not inoculated?

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Yes.

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[Judy] And your pediatrician
said it was okay?

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-Yeah.
-Uh...

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Had you gone back to living with her,
to being with her,

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to being intimate with her?
That's a yes or a no.

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-Short answer, yes.
-Short answer, I want a short answer.

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I'm 82 years old.

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[narrator] Ja'Quan Madyun
and Michelle Kerr-Madyun

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claim Ja'Quan's ex-girlfriend,
Yezlyn Torres,

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assaulted him
and filed false police reports.

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Yezlyn is countersuing,
accusing Ja'Quan of assaulting her.

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Okay. So, you took him to Orlando.
What did you take him to Orlando for?

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I didn't feel supported out here.

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I felt like I was doing everything
by myself.

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And I knew I would have
my family's support back in Florida.

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Well, then, you should've thought of that
before you had a baby.

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Because baby's born in California.

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-Right?
-Mm-hmm.

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California's the baby's home state.

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-Right?
-Yes.

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So, you can't just up and decide to move.

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-Do you understand that now?
-Yes.

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You've spoken to a lawyer?

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I spoke to one before leaving.

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And it was from
the Family Law Facilitator's Office.

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And I asked,
am I able to go back to Florida?

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And they told me, as long as
I haven't been served with paperwork,

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-there's nothing to stop me.
-Okay.

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Well, that may be true.

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That may be true. As long as you
haven't been served with paperwork,

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you can go,
but then you have to come back.

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-Yes.
-[laughs]

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Which you understand, 'cause then
you were served with paperwork.

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-Yes, ma'am.
-[Judy] Okie doke.

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So then you moved back. And when you
moved back, you moved back into the house?

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-Yes, ma'am.
-[Judy] With the plaintiff?

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No, ma'am. At the time,
it was just me and the child.

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Where did you go?

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I was coerced into--

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No, don't tell me coerced.
Where did you go?

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My lawyer forced me
to move back to the home.

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-With your mother?
-Correct.

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-Your lawyer?
-The lawyer forced me, yes.

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How could the lawyer force you?

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If I wanted to see my son,
that was what I had to do.

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[Judy]
Oh, you mean, because she said,

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I'm not working
and I need a place to live,

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and I need a place for the baby to live.
And she doesn't want to live with you.

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So, if you want to see the baby,
you have to let her move into the house.

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-Basically.
-[Judy] What do you mean, basically?

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-They can't force you to leave your home.
-That's what it was.

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That was her. She said, "I'll come
back to California with the baby,

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but I can't come back.
I don't have any way of earning a living."

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You weren't working in California,
is that right?

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You weren't going to school in Cali--

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I was enrolled in school, yes.

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-[Judy] In California?
-Yes, ma'am.

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-But you had just gone to Orlando.
-Yes. So, I enrolled in March.

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Literally a day
before our argument happened,

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I enrolled in school, and I was supposed
to start classes at the end of March,

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but I was unable to start
because I had to go back to Florida.

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-[Judy] The end of March?
-Yes, ma'am.

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What school did you enroll in
that starts the--

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the spring semester
starts the end of March?

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San Diego College of Continuing Education.

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[Judy]
Is that an online facility?

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It's online and in campus.

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Well, how many times
did you go to the campus?

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So, in March, I ended up not being able
to go. I came back in April

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and I was able to attend
a full course of the math class.

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-Online?
-No, in person.

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And I took her every day.

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Yes, Mr. Madyun was taking me
at the time.

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In order for Yezlyn to agree
to come back to San Diego,

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bring the child back to San Diego,

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she demanded that she live in my home
rent free for six months.

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That was more detail to say.

231
00:10:36,033 --> 00:10:38,500
-[Judy] Oh, that was the agreement?
-That was the agreement.

232
00:10:38,567 --> 00:10:41,333
Okay. Now, I would like you to tell me
what you're suing her for.

233
00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,266
I'm getting the picture.
Now you're back,

234
00:10:43,333 --> 00:10:47,834
you're living in basically
the plaintiff's family's home rent free.

235
00:10:47,900 --> 00:10:49,533
Who's paying the utilities?

236
00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,967
-I was, Your Honor.
-From what? From your father?

237
00:10:52,033 --> 00:10:54,066
-No, I get CalWORKs.
-[Judy] What?

238
00:10:54,133 --> 00:10:55,834
-[Yezlyn] Benefits.
-From what?

239
00:10:55,900 --> 00:10:57,033
From the state.

240
00:10:57,100 --> 00:10:58,867
-For what?
-[Ja'Quan] For having our child.

241
00:10:58,934 --> 00:11:01,533
Yes, for having--
For being a single mother.

242
00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,767
You get benefits from the state
from being a single mother.

243
00:11:04,834 --> 00:11:06,567
-Yes, ma'am.
-[Judy] You mean, you get welfare.

244
00:11:06,633 --> 00:11:08,667
-Yes.
-And when did you sign up for welfare?

245
00:11:08,734 --> 00:11:11,233
While I was pregnant,
as soon as I got out here.

246
00:11:11,300 --> 00:11:14,066
While you were pregnant?
You signed up for welfare.

247
00:11:14,133 --> 00:11:15,533
Why didn't you get a job?

248
00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,433
I had bad morning sickness
my whole pregnancy.

249
00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:19,834
I had morning sickness too,
I had a job.

250
00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:22,834
I was working out in Orlando
before we came out here.

251
00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:24,333
That's not what you told me.

252
00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,367
When we came out here,
I was unemployed,

253
00:11:26,433 --> 00:11:29,667
and I, in the meantime,
enrolled for welfare

254
00:11:29,734 --> 00:11:32,767
so that I could go to school
and not have to work.

255
00:11:32,834 --> 00:11:35,333
Your Honor, I had two jobs.
I never requested that she work.

256
00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,266
Just a second.

257
00:11:37,333 --> 00:11:40,300
I'm just trying to figure out
who my customers are.

258
00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:43,667
It's coming clear to me
who my customers are.

259
00:11:43,734 --> 00:11:47,066
Okay. So, now she's here.
She and the baby are on welfare.

260
00:11:47,133 --> 00:11:53,133
She's living rent free. The state is
paying for her gas, electric, utilities.

261
00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,834
I assume you and the baby
got food stamps as well.

262
00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:57,533
-Yes, ma'am.
-[Judy] Okie dokie.

263
00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,133
So, now you come back.
You were a resident of Orlando.

264
00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,266
They were paying your tab,
now you're back here in California.

265
00:12:04,333 --> 00:12:07,600
California is a very generous,
giving state.

266
00:12:07,667 --> 00:12:10,400
Now, I want you to tell me
what your lawsuit is about.

267
00:12:10,467 --> 00:12:12,667
I was assaulted in my home,
and I--

268
00:12:12,734 --> 00:12:14,300
In what month? In what month?

269
00:12:14,367 --> 00:12:18,166
July 21st of 2024.

270
00:12:18,233 --> 00:12:20,033
I was assaulted in my home.

271
00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:21,867
Okay. So, she came--

272
00:12:21,934 --> 00:12:24,133
She came back in what month?

273
00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,300
Don't answer for him.

274
00:12:25,367 --> 00:12:28,066
Don't answer for him or sit down.
He's a big boy.

275
00:12:28,133 --> 00:12:31,500
He's big enough to make a baby,
he's big enough to answer a question.

276
00:12:32,934 --> 00:12:37,900
All right. So, she came back...
I'd say, came back in April.

277
00:12:37,967 --> 00:12:40,000
-She came back in April.
-[Ja'Quan] Yeah.

278
00:12:40,066 --> 00:12:42,467
April, May, June, July,
so four months later.

279
00:12:42,533 --> 00:12:46,266
Had you gone back
to living with her, to being with her,

280
00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,333
-to being intimate with her?
-Correct. So--

281
00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,667
Living in the house, staying over?
That's a yes or a no.

282
00:12:51,734 --> 00:12:52,800
Short answer, yes.

283
00:12:52,867 --> 00:12:55,567
Shorty answer, I want a short answer.
I'm 82 years old.

284
00:12:55,633 --> 00:12:57,400
Okay. So, the answer is yes.

285
00:12:57,467 --> 00:13:00,967
And when did you move, start staying over
when she came back?

286
00:13:01,033 --> 00:13:02,967
She came back in April.

287
00:13:03,033 --> 00:13:05,333
-Whenever she started school.
-She started school in April.

288
00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,667
So, April you started to go over
and watch the baby?

289
00:13:07,734 --> 00:13:09,834
I was denied overnight. I was like,

290
00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,533
"I would still like to see
my son at night."

291
00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,800
She wouldn't let me do that,
so she was like, "I'll think about it

292
00:13:15,867 --> 00:13:18,533
and you can start coming over
and then we'll think about it more."

293
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,734
Then, she just told me flat out,
you can come back over here.

294
00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,500
She was staying in a certain room.
I was staying in my room.

295
00:13:24,567 --> 00:13:28,200
And then, she started coming into my room
in the middle of the nights.

296
00:13:28,266 --> 00:13:30,700
[Judy]
So, that's how it started.

297
00:13:30,767 --> 00:13:34,734
Were you at any time watching the baby
when she went to school?

298
00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,667
She said you would drive her to school.

299
00:13:36,734 --> 00:13:40,233
Under her impression, I was only there
to give her rides to school.

300
00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:41,867
[Judy]
That's not my question.

301
00:13:41,934 --> 00:13:44,233
Yes, I was watching the baby
while she was at school.

302
00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:46,165
I drove her to school
and brought our son back.

303
00:13:46,233 --> 00:13:49,767
Is it correct that when you went
to school, which you said you did,

304
00:13:49,834 --> 00:13:52,066
-that he would watch the baby?
-Yes, Your Honor.

305
00:13:52,133 --> 00:13:54,533
How many hours a day
did he watch the baby?

306
00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,333
It was from 9:00 to 12:00, so,
including the pickup and drop-off

307
00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,266
of me going to school,
I'd say it was four hours.

308
00:14:01,333 --> 00:14:04,967
So, four hours a day
you left an infant with his father.

309
00:14:05,033 --> 00:14:06,467
-Yes.
-[Judy] No problem.

310
00:14:06,533 --> 00:14:10,700
Now, tell me about this alleged assault
on July 21st.

311
00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:13,000
I asked Yezlyn to...

312
00:14:13,066 --> 00:14:16,667
You have to speak up, sir. You speak
very softly and I'm a little deaf.

313
00:14:16,734 --> 00:14:18,867
So, between the two of us,
we don't make a good match.

314
00:14:18,934 --> 00:14:20,066
When I speak a little loud, I--

315
00:14:20,133 --> 00:14:24,166
You hear the way I'm speaking to you?
That's the way I want you to speak to me.

316
00:14:24,233 --> 00:14:26,300
I'm not allowed to do that
in my home, sorry.

317
00:14:26,367 --> 00:14:28,500
-Well, you have to do it in my home.
-I got you.

318
00:14:28,567 --> 00:14:30,500
You're not in your home,
you're in my home.

319
00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,734
That's the information
that the police had.

320
00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,533
They don't know
what they're gonna come up with.

321
00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,600
That's why we're here.

322
00:14:39,667 --> 00:14:41,600
They don't know if they're gonna find
a soft-spoken guy

323
00:14:41,667 --> 00:14:45,165
who just had a fight with his girlfriend
and it got a little out of hand,

324
00:14:45,233 --> 00:14:47,165
or whether they're dealing with a nut.

325
00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,233
[narrator] Ja'Quan Madyun
and Michelle Kerr-Madyun

326
00:15:00,300 --> 00:15:04,000
are accusing Ja'Quan's
ex-girlfriend, Yezlyn Torres,

327
00:15:04,066 --> 00:15:07,233
of biting him
and filing false police reports.

328
00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:11,200
Yezlyn claims Ja'Quan is
wrongfully keeping her property.

329
00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:14,934
Now, July 21st, you called her
and asked to see the boy?

330
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,266
No, we were in the same home at the...

331
00:15:17,333 --> 00:15:20,533
-[Judy] So, you were in the same house.
-Yes. This is after the time period

332
00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,400
where she's finished school
because I've taken her there--

333
00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:25,767
Shh. Don't go into a whole thing.

334
00:15:25,834 --> 00:15:29,033
Okay? And, come on, tell me the story.

335
00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:33,300
So, I asked to see the baby.
"Can I see our son to put him in his bed

336
00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:37,300
to put him in the room so he does not have
to hear this argument that's going on?"

337
00:15:37,367 --> 00:15:39,600
Why is there an argument?
I don't know why there's an argument.

338
00:15:39,667 --> 00:15:42,367
I had asked Yezlyn
to stop withholding the milk.

339
00:15:42,433 --> 00:15:45,567
Because she would put the milk
in the freezer,

340
00:15:45,633 --> 00:15:47,934
knowing I would need it
in the refrigerator

341
00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,300
to feed our baby at nighttime.
So, I asked her to stop doing that.

342
00:15:51,367 --> 00:15:53,834
And cleaning around the house.
Just certain little things.

343
00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:56,633
And she ignores me
and then she's stubborn.

344
00:15:56,700 --> 00:15:59,400
And she has an argumentative attitude.

345
00:15:59,467 --> 00:16:02,967
So, it says in the report, I left,
went in the garage for a little while.

346
00:16:03,033 --> 00:16:06,066
Calmed down, and I came back again
to the same attitude,

347
00:16:06,133 --> 00:16:08,500
her responding the same,
her being aggressive.

348
00:16:08,567 --> 00:16:11,233
I was like, "Our son
doesn't need to deal with this.

349
00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:14,433
-So, can I bring him to the room--"
-[Judy] Your room?

350
00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:16,467
[Ja'Quan] Our bedroom, yes,
where his bassinet is,

351
00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:18,834
so he can sleep in his bassinet
or be in his bassinet

352
00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:21,633
while whatever argument is going on.

353
00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:23,166
What were you arguing about?

354
00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:25,100
There's multiple things we argue about.

355
00:16:25,166 --> 00:16:28,133
[Judy] Okay. So, you were fighting.
It couldn't have been that important

356
00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,000
'cause there wasn't one thing
that you were fighting about.

357
00:16:31,066 --> 00:16:34,667
Okay. So, that was on the 21st of July.
You asked if you could put him in.

358
00:16:34,734 --> 00:16:36,200
Come on, tell me the story.

359
00:16:36,266 --> 00:16:38,467
There's something that has to do
about a false arrest

360
00:16:38,533 --> 00:16:40,165
or filing a false police report.

361
00:16:40,233 --> 00:16:42,967
And then, after that, she smacked my hand
out the way.

362
00:16:43,033 --> 00:16:45,633
So, I said, "What are you doing?
Let me see our son now."

363
00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:48,165
'Cause now, you've just
put your hands on me.

364
00:16:48,233 --> 00:16:50,165
And she said no, again, no, again.

365
00:16:50,233 --> 00:16:52,633
And then, once I reached out again,
let me see our son,

366
00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:56,500
she bites me. Not a...
"Ah, get away from me," it's like...

367
00:16:56,567 --> 00:17:00,400
-[clamps teeth]
-Like really hanging on, like a pit bull.

368
00:17:00,467 --> 00:17:02,367
But like, biting on my hands.

369
00:17:02,433 --> 00:17:04,934
I like, yanked my hand away.
You just bit me!

370
00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,500
After she bit you, what happened?

371
00:17:06,567 --> 00:17:10,032
I said, "Okay, let me see our son
so we could put him in the room

372
00:17:10,099 --> 00:17:12,233
'cause you just bit me."
And I know how she is,

373
00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:16,099
she's made false police reports before.
"So now, you assaulted me.

374
00:17:16,165 --> 00:17:19,700
You're gonna make it seem like
I'm a victim in this situation now."

375
00:17:19,767 --> 00:17:22,666
She's gonna call the police.
She asked for a police escort last time

376
00:17:22,733 --> 00:17:23,700
when she left in March.

377
00:17:23,767 --> 00:17:25,633
She called and lied
and said I threatened her

378
00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:27,165
and asked for a police escort.

379
00:17:27,233 --> 00:17:31,000
So, that was the whole reason of me
saying, "Let me see our child

380
00:17:31,066 --> 00:17:33,133
so I can go put him in the room

381
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,467
because you're not gonna take him
back to Orlando again.

382
00:17:35,533 --> 00:17:39,200
You're not gonna leave
to an undisclosed location again."

383
00:17:39,266 --> 00:17:41,200
So, I'm saying, "Let me see our son."

384
00:17:41,266 --> 00:17:43,233
I got bit three or four times already
up my arm.

385
00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,266
Up my arm, this hand, this hand.

386
00:17:45,333 --> 00:17:48,967
So, at that point, I'm trying to get her
off of me by pushing her forehead.

387
00:17:49,033 --> 00:17:50,900
You have the police report
of that incident?

388
00:17:50,967 --> 00:17:53,133
-[Ja'Quan] Correct.
-[Judy] I'd like to see it.

389
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,100
I also have the pictures of my--

390
00:17:55,166 --> 00:17:58,300
And photographs of any injuries
that you say you suffered.

391
00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:01,467
Where are you living now, Miss Torres?

392
00:18:01,533 --> 00:18:04,000
[Yezlyn] I found someone
that was renting a room.

393
00:18:04,066 --> 00:18:06,233
-[Judy] What state are you living in?
-San Diego.

394
00:18:12,367 --> 00:18:14,000
These are pictures of your arm?

395
00:18:14,066 --> 00:18:15,066
Yes.

396
00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:18,200
Is there any other police report?

397
00:18:18,266 --> 00:18:20,000
I have the complete police report.

398
00:18:20,066 --> 00:18:21,767
I'd like to see it.

399
00:18:30,266 --> 00:18:32,667
[papers rustling]

400
00:18:32,734 --> 00:18:33,867
There it is.

401
00:18:33,934 --> 00:18:36,433
Judge, can I show the video
when you get done?

402
00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:41,300
Yes. I'm just reading this to see
if you were interviewed by the police.

403
00:18:41,367 --> 00:18:44,767
I see they interviewed her.
I'm not seeing that they interviewed you.

404
00:18:44,834 --> 00:18:46,734
That's the point. Thank you.

405
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,500
Okay. So, the police officer
who did this investigation

406
00:18:51,567 --> 00:18:56,633
reported that he saw minor injuries
on both parties.

407
00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:59,600
On your throat, a red mark
and a small scratch.

408
00:18:59,667 --> 00:19:05,734
And saw two bruises on the plaintiff
consistent with being bitten.

409
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,834
Yes, ma'am.

410
00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:09,567
-Okay. And they arrested him.
-Yes, ma'am.

411
00:19:09,633 --> 00:19:11,934
Now, you're going to show me
the video.

412
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,834
Okay. And who took this?

413
00:19:13,900 --> 00:19:16,734
This was my mother recording
from my phone.

414
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,600
So, after the incident, you took the baby
and went to your mother's house.

415
00:19:20,667 --> 00:19:22,333
Yes. This is where the police

416
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,066
-are arresting me.
-[Judy] Let me see it.

417
00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:27,100
This is when the police came
after they took her report.

418
00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:28,600
After you had been bitten?

419
00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:29,667
Yes.

420
00:19:29,734 --> 00:19:31,867
[Judy] And after
you had been allegedly choked.

421
00:19:31,934 --> 00:19:34,066
-Yes, ma'am.
-[Judy] Okay. Let's see.

422
00:19:38,867 --> 00:19:40,867
[officer]

423
00:19:46,667 --> 00:19:49,000
[Michelle]

424
00:19:49,066 --> 00:19:51,166
[officer]

425
00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:53,967
[officer 2]

426
00:19:54,033 --> 00:20:00,033
[Michelle]

427
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,700
[Ja'Quan]

428
00:20:05,767 --> 00:20:08,300
[Michelle]

429
00:20:08,367 --> 00:20:09,567
[man]

430
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,433
Are you showing me this,
for what reason?

431
00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:18,166
Just to show how the police came
and rolled up on me after her words...

432
00:20:18,233 --> 00:20:21,233
-[Judy] Okay. So, I'm gonna answer--
-...and exaggeration.

433
00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:24,367
Because you and, as a matter of fact,
your mom,

434
00:20:24,433 --> 00:20:26,967
-I'm sure-- You can stand up, ma'am.
-Thank you.

435
00:20:27,033 --> 00:20:30,867
You and your mom
think that was overkill

436
00:20:30,934 --> 00:20:35,266
to have 12 police officers show up
in squad cars.

437
00:20:35,333 --> 00:20:38,033
That's what pretty much you said.
Is that correct?

438
00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:41,433
-I can't believe this. There are 10, 12--
-The way they showed up.

439
00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:44,133
[Judy] So, let me tell you
what information they had.

440
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,633
And I'm putting this together
from reading all the papers.

441
00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:49,066
She went to a neighbor's house.
She called the police.

442
00:20:49,133 --> 00:20:52,700
You called the police. You told them
that your boyfriend had assaulted you.

443
00:20:52,767 --> 00:20:56,834
-That he had kidnapped your baby--
-That he might have, yes.

444
00:20:56,900 --> 00:21:00,400
That he had kidnapped your baby
and that he had guns

445
00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:01,800
-in the house.
-Yes, Your Honor.

446
00:21:01,867 --> 00:21:03,633
[Judy] Do you understand
what she tells the police?

447
00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:06,800
And when they got there,
they saw a red mark on her throat.

448
00:21:06,867 --> 00:21:10,166
They saw the baby wasn't there.
She invited them into the house

449
00:21:10,233 --> 00:21:13,767
where they found a rifle,
according to the police report.

450
00:21:13,834 --> 00:21:15,200
-Mm-hmm.
-[Judy] I'm telling you.

451
00:21:15,266 --> 00:21:17,467
So, if you're faulting the police,
what they did was,

452
00:21:17,533 --> 00:21:20,033
-they're armed with this information.
-[Michelle] I totally understand.

453
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:24,367
Some guy assaulted his girlfriend,
stole the infant.

454
00:21:24,433 --> 00:21:29,400
She doesn't know where they are.
He has guns, both in the house, several.

455
00:21:29,467 --> 00:21:32,300
And you did have several guns
in the house, they found one.

456
00:21:32,367 --> 00:21:34,967
They didn't find the handguns
that you had.

457
00:21:35,033 --> 00:21:37,633
They had me on the phone
disclosing where everything was.

458
00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:41,233
[Judy] Just a second.
I understand what you're saying to me.

459
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:44,667
That's the information
that the police had.

460
00:21:44,734 --> 00:21:47,300
They don't know
what they're gonna come up with.

461
00:21:47,367 --> 00:21:48,300
That's why we're here.

462
00:21:48,367 --> 00:21:50,233
They don't know if they're gonna find
a soft-spoken guy

463
00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:54,100
who just had a fight with his girlfriend
and it got a little out of hand.

464
00:21:54,166 --> 00:21:57,467
Or whether they're dealing with a nut
who has guns,

465
00:21:57,533 --> 00:22:00,266
-and who kidnapped a baby and took him.
-I totally understand.

466
00:22:00,333 --> 00:22:03,700
And maybe there were guns
in the house where they were going.

467
00:22:03,767 --> 00:22:06,800
They don't know that.
So, they came with a little overkill.

468
00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:10,100
My thing, from her statements,
my son could've been killed that day.

469
00:22:10,166 --> 00:22:13,100
-They came--
-[Judy] Just a second. I'm telling you

470
00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:16,767
what information they had
at the time. Okay?

471
00:22:16,834 --> 00:22:18,400
We understand that.
That's why we're here.

472
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:23,934
You did, in fact, have a fight with her.

473
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,967
She put her teeth on me and then
I restrained her from biting me.

474
00:22:27,033 --> 00:22:32,200
Just a second. You don't fight over
whether or not you can hold the baby.

475
00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:35,467
You don't go over and say,
"Give me, I want to hold it."

476
00:22:35,533 --> 00:22:37,633
What kind of adult behavior is that?

477
00:22:40,333 --> 00:22:41,500
[narrator]
Have you been cheated?

478
00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:43,967
Go to JudyJustice.tv.

479
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