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You're suing your parents for
money that you put into a truck?
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I'm about to put all my money into it.
I want the truck.
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No, no, no. I worked all my
life with that truck.
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[grunts]
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I want you to stop it.
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It's from my work, blood,
sweat, and tears.
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- I mean, I can't. I need a break.
- That he can take.
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[narrator]
This is Judy Justice.
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{\an8}♪
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{\an8}Levi Shaw is suing his parents,
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{\an8}Davrye and Nathan Celestine,
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{\an8}for the repair costs
of an 18-wheeler truck.
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[bailiff]
Court come to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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- Hello, Judge.
- How are you?
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{\an8}Case number 2032.
Shaw versus Celestine.
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- Thank you.
- [bailiff] You're welcome.
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Mr. Shaw,
these are your parents, is that right?
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- Yes, they are.
- How old are you?
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I'm 26.
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[Judy]
Just a very broad framework of this case.
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You're suing your parents for money
that you put into a truck
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{\an8}- that belongs to them.
- Correct.
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{\an8}And they are counterclaiming
for money that they say you owe them
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for a balance of a dog
they purchased for you.
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- Mm-hmm.
- [Judy] The truck that you fixed
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belonged to your parents.
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Yes. The agreement was--
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No. The truck that you fixed
belonged to your parents.
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And what I gather is that
you had come into some money.
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- Mm-hmm.
- "Mm-hmm" is not an answer.
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Uh, yes, ma'am.
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And when did you come into that money?
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{\an8}I never came into any
money from them after I finished--
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{\an8}[Judy] Not from them. I didn't say from
them, that you came into some money.
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- Uh-huh.
- "Uh-huh" is not an answer.
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[Levi]
- I'm--
- I'm sorry. Yes, ma'am.
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- I came into some in October.
- [Judy] So I want you to--
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In October. You were not employed?
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I was employed.
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- By whom?
- [Levi] Construction.
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Is that their company?
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No, I was working
with them and their brother.
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So you were working with the family?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] Okay.
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That was in October. October of 2021.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Uh-huh is not an answer.
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I mean, yes, ma'am. I'm sorry.
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And how much did you come into?
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{\an8}About $10,000 for the
month of September and October.
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{\an8}And then your father said to you,
I assume,
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you should take some of that money
and buy a 16-wheeler truck so that--
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No, ma'am.
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Well, how did that happen, sir, that
you got possession of your parents truck?
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- So--
- Did you try to buy a truck on your own?
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- Yes, ma'am, I did.
- [Judy] Okay, in what month--
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Just a second. In what month did you
try to buy a truck for yourself?
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- January.
- [Judy] January of 2022?
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Yes, ma'am.
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And tried to buy a truck so
that you could have your own truck
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- for long hauling and business?
- Yes, ma'am.
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And you went to a dealer and
you found the truck that you liked,
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but you didn't qualify for financing.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- And how much is a new truck?
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{\an8}That truck, it wasn't new, it was 2015.
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{\an8}And they priced it at $60,000.
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{\an8}- [Judy] 60?
- Yes, ma'am.
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- And you told your parents about that?
- Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
And there was a discussion
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that they had an older truck
that wasn't running.
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- It needed minor work that fell to me.
- [Judy] It needed--
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Okay, so they said to you,
it needs minor work.
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Was it running?
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It was running,
but the diamond seal was cracked,
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so eventually the truck was
just going to break down completely.
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[Judy] Okay, so you took that truck
with the understanding
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that you were going to
repair the truck and then what?
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To make money. But--
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So you would repair the truck
and then use it?
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Yes, ma'am.
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And you would keep most of
the profits from using that truck?
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I mean, I'm trying to understand
what the agreement was.
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{\an8}The agreement was my dad Nathan
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{\an8}told me that the truck
was only going to be worth
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{\an8}$4,000 to fix, which was a diamond seal,
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it needs some bushings,
it needs something for the exhaust pipe,
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and I was like, "Okay."
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But when the dude
kept calling me for the truck,
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and he was like,
"Okay, this needs to be done--"
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But you took the truck into a mechanic?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- And did they give you an estimate?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Okay. Before or after they did the work?
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They gave me one before,
but I don't have that estimate,
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but I have the one for after.
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You mean after they completed the work,
they sent you a bill?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Well, that's not an estimate.
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An estimate, sir,
is when you go in and say,
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"Here is a truck,
I want you to give me an estimate
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- of what it is to have it fixed."
- Mm-hmm.
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And they give you an estimate,
and then you determine whether or not
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you want them to do
any or all of that work, right?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Okay.
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I would never bring a truck
into any mechanic or any dealership,
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mechanic and say "Fix it."
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When they was calling me,
telling me additional problems
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that was wrong, I will call them,
which I have my phone records
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that showed that I was also calling them
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once the dealership
called me to fix the truck.
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Because the truck wasn't able--
like, it needed a new gear,
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it needed new--
transmission was messed up on the truck.
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[Judy] Just a second.
All I want is what you're telling me
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that your father told you to go ahead
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and fix those things
each time you got a call?
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- Yes. Yes.
- [Judy] Okay.
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So you would call him,
and your father would not say to you,
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"Well, how much is that to fix?"
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Well, yeah, he was,
but I had already had
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a settled amount that I told him
that I was willing to spend,
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which was $10,000.
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Well, did you spend $10,000?
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The truck was actually over $10,000.
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I understand to fix it.
But you actually spent--
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[Levi] They did have $10,000.
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- You actually spent the $10,000.
- $10,900.
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- [Judy] Okay. To fix the truck?
- Yes, ma'am.
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{\an8}- [Judy] And you have the truck?
- Yes, ma'am.
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- {\an8}-
- And I think the truck was $13,000 to fix.
- Yes, ma'am.
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So you paid the additional $3,000?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Now the truck is running?
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Yes, ma'am, it's running.
It was running before, Your Honor.
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- [Judy] But it's running now better...
- Yes, ma'am. Yes.
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because there's-- Just a second.
I can only hear from one of you.
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He said the truck is in use.
You said no.
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It's not used. Or-- is the truck--?
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No, Your Honor,
I misunderstood what you said.
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I thought you
was talking about the repair.
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You're saying is the truck operatable now?
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Yes, it's operable,
but it's not on the road.
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It's not on the road?
Who cares if it's not on the road?
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Oh, yes.
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[Judy] The idea was
he was supposed to fix the truck.
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And supposed to be able to use the truck.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Is he able to use the truck?
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- Yes, he's able to use the truck.
- Okay, great.
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When was the last time
he tried to use the truck?
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He never tried
to use the truck after it was fixed.
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{\an8}He said that he no longer
wanted to be a part of the deal,
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{\an8}to give him his money back.
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{\an8}- [Judy] Okay.
- I have something.
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Now, when the truck
originally got fixed in February,
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my dad came into town multiple times.
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It was one more piece that needed to
be fixed, which was the ABS module,
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which, if you get pulled over,
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they're gonna stop you
and shut you down completely.
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- I don't know that.
- [Levi] And I told him,
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"Hey, we need to get that fixed."
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He came into town three times,
and I asked him,
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"Hey, are you going
to take the truck to the shop?
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Hey, are you going to take
the truck to the shop?"
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He said no. And he's like,
"Well, it don't have any insurance."
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And it was just
a whole bunch of excuses why he
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couldn't take the truck to the shop.
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[Judy]
Whether he can or he can't,
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he says, and your mother says
you're able to use the truck.
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But I don't have a CDL,
so I'm not able to drive it.
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Well, you didn't have that
when you took it in anyway...
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- Mm-hmm.
- [Judy] to be fixed.
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But I didn't take the truck over there.
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He drove the truck to the mechanic shop.
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[Judy]
Whatever. I don't care who drove it there.
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But your agreement with him
was you tried to buy a new truck,
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it was much too expensive.
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Your agreement with your parents was
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that you would take
an older truck of theirs
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that needed a lot of work,
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and you took it into a mechanic,
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and the mechanic
was going to fix the truck,
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make it operable so that you would have
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an opportunity to use it
and make money.
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Yes, ma'am.
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And so I'm asking you, now
the truck is fixed to the tune of $13,000.
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When was the last time that
you asked to use the truck
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that your parents said you can't?
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Well, I asked him,
can I have his dad take the truck
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to get the additional piece put on?
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And he told me no,
just to wait till he come into town.
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Okay.
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{\an8}After the agreement that your
son was going to pay the money,
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{\an8}fix the truck, was your agreement
with them that he could use it at will?
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{\an8}I gave him a specific time.
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{\an8}I'd like to hear what
the specific times were.
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{\an8}The specific time was...
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{\an8}[Judy]
Don't let's make it up as we go.
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{\an8}No, no, ma'am.
I'm thinking straight to you.
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{\an8}I'mma tell you just like it
[indistinct].
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{\an8}[narrator] Levi Shaw claims
his parents Davyre and Nathan Celestine
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owe for the repairs
of an 18-wheeler truck.
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Levi's parents are countersuing
for the balance of an English bulldog.
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Was the additional piece put
on the truck that he's talking about?
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No, ma'am,
it didn't actually need that addition.
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It was an ABS modulator,
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which on that particular model,
was a 1995 FLD Classic.
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On that particular model, you
don't need that to reset the ABS light.
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All you need is a sensor
that goes in the hub of the wheel.
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What I'm asking you is, your
son said that you needed this one part.
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This is your business?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- How much is that one part?
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This is a part that I never researched,
so I can't tell you,
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- But according to him--
- [Judy] Okay, so perhaps--
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I didn't ask you anything.
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Perhaps you can tell me.
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The part was $900.
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That was returned back.
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It was never returned
because they wouldn't let me return it
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because they're dealing with wires.
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So when I asked them, "Can I return it?"
They said no.
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And I have a text where I text her,
and I said,
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"Hey, they will
not let me return this piece.
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[Judy] Return what piece?
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The ABS module.
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They will not let me return it
because it's electrical,
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and they do not
accept returns on electric pieces.
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{\an8}So is what you're telling me
that you bought this piece for $900?
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- {\an8}-
- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Okay. And it--it wasn't necessary.
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You didn't buy it from him?
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No, but I don't know if it was necessary,
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but what the mechanic told me was--
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You can't tell me
what the mechanic told you.
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Well, I'm just saying,
the mechanic told me--
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No, you can't tell me
what the mechanic told you.
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All I'm telling you, Mr. Shaw,
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is you had an agreement with your parents
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- to fix a truck...
- Mm-hmm.
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and then to be able to use it.
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And I want to know whether
they have ever denied you the right,
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because that was
the contract that you made.
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You never made a contract
with them that you would
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take a truck to the mechanic
and they would pay for the repairs.
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You never made that contract with them.
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You want me to say that
that was your contract with them.
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They say the truck is
operable now and that you can use it.
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When do you want to use it?
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Well, if they're willing to let me use it,
then I want to use it as soon as possible.
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Okay, and you can drive the truck?
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No, I was gonna hire a driver.
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Okay. And the truck now
is not on the road.
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Is that correct?
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- That's correct.
- [banging on desk]
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- Yes, ma'am. That's right.
- Truck now...
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- That's right, Your Honor.
- [Judy] The truck is not on the road
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- No, ma'am. It is not.
- is what you said, but operable?
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- Yes, it's not operable.
- [Judy] Okay.
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And after the agreement that
your son was going to pay the money,
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fix the truck,
and then be able to work at it
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so that he's getting some
benefit from what he put into the truck...
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- Yes, ma'am.
- did you have an agr-
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- I wanted to ask something.
- [Judy] I'm not looking at you.
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- Okay.
- Did you have a discussion with him
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about how much of the time he would
be able to utilize the truck,
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{\an8}or was your agreement with
him that he could use it at will?
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{\an8}I gave him a specific time, yes, ma'am.
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{\an8}I'd like to hear what
the specific times were.
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The specific time was...
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Don't let's make it up as we go.
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No, no, ma'am.
I'm thinking straight to you.
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I'm going to tell you
just like it at [indistinct].
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I gave him a-- specifically,
according to him,
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about three months
when he probably needed it
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you know, to get himself together.
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[Judy] Now just a second.
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You mean he was gonna
spend $10,000 on fixing the truck
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and you were going to let
him use it for three months?
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- Well, what was wrong with it was--
- Put your hand down.
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I'm not talking to you.
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Well, as long as he
needed it, I'mma put it that way.
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As long as he needed the truck.
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- [Judy] Okay, so now that's better.
- Yes, ma'am.
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So that he can use the truck
whenever he needs it
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and he's going to get a driver.
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I just want to know because
we're going to have to
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memorialize all this in an order.
What do you want?
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We had a driver.
My brother was a driver.
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I don't care whether your
brother was the driver or not.
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That was not the agreement that
your husband said he made with his son.
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That's right.
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He says he made an agreement
with him that if he paid to have it fixed,
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he could use the
truck whenever he wanted to.
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That's what your father says.
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No that is not compl--
That is--that is not true.
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Okay. So when did you ask
to use the truck?
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So in January,
when I was getting the truck fixed,
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they told me $4,000.
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But as the mechanic kept calling me,
adding on stuff,
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I said, "Hey, I'm not about to
pay all this money."
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And you all telling me
I could just use it.
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If I'm about to put all my money into it,
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I want the truck.
And my mom was like,
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"Okay, you can do that because
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in January they didn't make any money.
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[Judy] Just a second.
So what you're telling me is
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what you said to your mother,
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"I'm not going to put in all this money
unless the truck belongs to me"?
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Correct.
Well, that's not unreasonable, Mr. Shaw.
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I can actually see that.
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You're spending $10,000 of your money
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- and you want to be able to use the truck.
- Mm-hmm.
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And you want it to be able
to not have it on a whim of somebody else.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] How old is this truck?
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This truck is exactly 22 years old.
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How long have you owned it?
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I've owned it since I was 23 years old.
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Okay, so you've owned it since it was new?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Did you make a living from it?
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Yes, ma'am, I did.
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[Judy]
Good. Do you have any other trucks now?
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- Yes, ma'am, I do.
- [Judy] How many others?
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Just one other.
I'm not no big-scale company.
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I just got one other truck.
Yes, ma'am.
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Can I see the title to the truck, please?
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- To the truck we're talking about?
- [Judy] Yes.
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I don't have that title with me.
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- Why not?
- [Davyre] I was... [chuckles]
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{\an8}Under the impression
that I didn't need to bring it.
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{\an8}Okay. And according to you,
the truck's not on the road now?
328
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No, ma'am, it's not on the road.
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Do you remember having a
conversation with your son
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about, "I'm not going to spend all this
money unless the truck is mine?"
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Yes, ma'am,
I do remember that conversation.
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[Judy]
Do you remember where it took place?
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He was driving and I was at home.
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So it was over the phone?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Remember what month that was?
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- January.
- [Judy] January of 2022.
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Correct.
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{\an8}Tell me what you said to
him and what he said to you.
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{\an8}I told him "I totally understand
what you're saying."
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I said, Let me talk to your
daddy and we'll see what we can do but--
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Great. As a parent,
that sounds perfectly reasonable.
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And did you speak to your husband?
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- [Davyre] Yes, I did.
- [Judy] Did the two of you own the truck?
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He owns the truck.
It's in his name and Nathan's name.
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So you said,
"Okay, that sounds okay.
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Let me talk to your daddy."
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You have to talk to
the owner of the truck,
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Correct.
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because now you're
seeking to change the agreement.
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- Do you understand?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Okay. And after you
spoke to your mother,
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did you have a conversation
with your father
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about the ownership of the truck?
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Yes, we did.
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And tell me when
that was and what was discussed.
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It was in January as well.
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And when I told him that,
he said he totally agreed with me
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that if I put in majority of the money,
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- that I can have the truck.
- [Judy] Okay.
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I want to tell you,
certain things sort of ring true to me.
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If I were a young person and
spending all my money for a business,
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because this is the
business that he was gonna be in.
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He was going to hire a driver,
he was going to take a
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certain amount of the profits.
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I could understand him saying
to his parents,
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who now have a truck
that they're not using,
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because it's not on the road.
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"I'm going to spend
all my savings," it looks like,
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because the initial estimate was $4,000.
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But it kept going up
and up and up and up.
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"So if I'm gonna spend
all this m--" put your hand down.
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"If I'm going to spend all this money,
I'd like to own the truck."
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And in response to that,
his mother said
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and acknowledges that she said,
"That sounds right to me.
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I'm gonna speak to your father."
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And according to you,
you spoke to your father,
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and your father said, "Sounds okay."
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Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
So you went ahead and spent the money.
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- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] Okay.
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♪
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{\an8}Put your hand down.
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- Your Honor, you don't understand.
- [Judy] This is not--
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Yeah. I've made over
a million dollars with this truck.
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- {\an8}-
- That's ridiculous.
- I want you to stop it.
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{\an8}[scoffing] Hey, man. Hey, man.
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- {\an8}-
- How can you tell me to stop?
- No. Are we going to--?
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{\an8}with my work, blood, sweat,
and tears on he gonna take?
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♪
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♪
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{\an8}[narrator] Levi Shaw says his
parents, Davyre and Nathan Celestine,
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owe for the cost of
repairs to an 18-wheeler truck.
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00:15:37,934 --> 00:15:40,967
Levi's parents say
he never used the truck,
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and it is still not fixed.
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[Judy]
I'd like to see the bills for the truck.
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Oh, I have it on my phone.
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What is that?
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00:15:47,834 --> 00:15:50,066
These were the bank statements,
because at first,
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they were countersuing for
insurance as well,
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so I was showing bank statements
where I had sent them money.
401
00:15:55,333 --> 00:15:57,533
- So that's what these was for.
- [Judy] No, I-- yeah.
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But I have it on my phone,
but I don't have it in the statements.
403
00:16:00,166 --> 00:16:01,367
Well, I need it.
404
00:16:07,233 --> 00:16:10,266
- Here we go.
- [Judy] Is that the one final invoice?
405
00:16:10,333 --> 00:16:11,600
- Yes, ma'am.
- [Judy] I'd like to see it.
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And it also have at the bottom
where it says it needs the ABS module.
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00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,533
Your Honor, can I see that as well?
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00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,533
Yes.
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So the entire amount is $13,000.
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$13,000 and some change.
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- And your father paid three?
- [Levi] Yes, ma'am.
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- This is not the correct invoice.
- [Judy] What?
413
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- I have the original invoice.
- She got the original.
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00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,033
Fine. I'll take a look at your yours.
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00:16:41,133 --> 00:16:43,600
This was the invoice
that was sent to me via--
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so by their email,
which I could pull up their email as well.
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00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,934
And that shows that it's paid on the back.
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- [Judy] Just a second.
- Yes, ma'am.
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It's the same thing as he showed me.
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- But it has our name on it.
- [Judy] Who cares?
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00:16:55,533 --> 00:16:58,667
The ones that he showed you,
it changed since then.
422
00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,066
But-- let me ask you a question.
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00:17:01,433 --> 00:17:03,200
- No...
- [Judy] Unless I'm missing something.
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00:17:03,266 --> 00:17:04,133
No, no, no, no.
425
00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,867
You're not questioning the
fact that he paid $10,000
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to fix the truck out of
the $13,000 that the truck was.
427
00:17:10,967 --> 00:17:13,166
- {\an8}-
- Are you questioning that?
- No, I'm not.
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00:17:13,233 --> 00:17:15,233
{\an8}Okay, then I don't
know what we're talking about.
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00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:16,333
Okay.
430
00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,200
Let's go over this one more time.
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00:17:18,266 --> 00:17:20,233
When your son said to you,
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you know, "if I'm going to
spend all this money,
433
00:17:22,133 --> 00:17:23,133
I want to own the truck,"
434
00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,233
and your wife had
the same conversation with you.
435
00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:27,433
Right? She said,
"I got a call from Levi.
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Levi said if he's going to spend
all this money,
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00:17:29,667 --> 00:17:30,867
he really wants the truck."
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00:17:30,934 --> 00:17:32,734
And she actually thought it was okay.
439
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,533
And what did you say, sir?
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I said that
"I'm not going to sell you the truck."
441
00:17:37,066 --> 00:17:39,333
- [Judy] Why?
- "I will let you use the truck."
442
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,633
No. When did you say that?
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[Nathan]
Because I have other children.
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00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,533
[Judy] Oh, no, but your other children
didn't put any money into the truck.
445
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,800
- No, no, I know-- I know--
- [Judy] No, just a second.
446
00:17:45,867 --> 00:17:47,467
Your other children didn't put
any money into the truck.
447
00:17:47,533 --> 00:17:49,266
- I know what you're saying but--
- Hand down.
448
00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:51,533
- He didn't ask me to buy the truck.
- [Judy] Okay.
449
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,467
- He asked could he use it.
- [Judy] Just a second.
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He was gonna sell it to my uncle
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'cause when the repairs got done,
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they actually didn't have enough money
453
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because I had $8,000 saved up.
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They took $4,000 of my $8,000
to pay the--
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[Davyre]
But you got paid back.
456
00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:07,000
Yes, but they didn't have the money,
so when they.
457
00:18:07,066 --> 00:18:08,433
- You just--
- Mr. Shaw!
458
00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:11,533
Mr. Shaw, I don't expect you
to talk to each other.
459
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,000
I don't expect you to talk to him.
460
00:18:13,066 --> 00:18:14,800
- Yes, ma'am, I understand.
- [Judy] It's very easy.
461
00:18:14,867 --> 00:18:18,200
{\an8}I believe that you changed
the contract with your son
462
00:18:18,266 --> 00:18:20,934
{\an8}from a contract where
he would pay for the repairs,
463
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,734
{\an8}which is supposed to be $4,000,
464
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,600
and then you have the use of the truck
465
00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:27,600
to the fact that he was going to
spend $10,000,
466
00:18:27,667 --> 00:18:29,367
which was all of his money.
467
00:18:29,433 --> 00:18:31,100
Put your hand down. I'm not...
468
00:18:31,533 --> 00:18:33,500
this 22-year-old truck
469
00:18:33,567 --> 00:18:35,300
that you've had since it was new,
470
00:18:35,367 --> 00:18:36,700
was going to be his,
471
00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:39,066
and I am going to craft an order
472
00:18:39,133 --> 00:18:40,967
to the Department of Motor Vehicles
473
00:18:41,033 --> 00:18:44,066
to reissue a title in the truck to him.
474
00:18:44,133 --> 00:18:47,033
Do you understand?
He's going to take that order.
475
00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:49,834
He's going to get a new
registration for the car
476
00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:52,066
and a new ownership,
unless you want--
477
00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:53,400
Put your hand down. This is--
478
00:18:53,467 --> 00:18:55,266
- This is not-- This is not--
- Your Honor, you don't understand.
479
00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:57,066
Your Honor, I don't understand that.
480
00:18:57,133 --> 00:18:58,700
- Well, but I-- just a second--
- I got other children,
481
00:18:58,767 --> 00:19:00,066
- I got five other kids
- [Judy] Do you want me--?
482
00:19:00,133 --> 00:19:02,300
- Do you want me to say it slower?
- And he's spoiled, Your Honor.
483
00:19:02,367 --> 00:19:05,633
And I say, what about
the $3,500 that we put into it?
484
00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:07,300
- [Judy] You're absolutely right.
- Okay.
485
00:19:07,367 --> 00:19:09,934
But it wasn't $4,500. It was $3,500.
486
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,266
35. I'm sorry if you didn't hear me well.
487
00:19:12,333 --> 00:19:13,533
Man, oh, man.
488
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,967
[Judy]
You are absolutely entitled to that.
489
00:19:15,033 --> 00:19:16,033
[exhales] Dude.
490
00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:17,467
I believe you are entitled to that.
491
00:19:17,533 --> 00:19:19,500
- He put in ten, that's his truck.
- [knocks on table]
492
00:19:19,567 --> 00:19:22,367
I made-- Your Honor,
I worked all my life with that truck.
493
00:19:22,433 --> 00:19:23,400
I don't care.
494
00:19:23,467 --> 00:19:25,000
I worked all my-- I care.
495
00:19:25,066 --> 00:19:26,734
- He's not gonna spend his $10,000
- I tell you, Your Honor,
496
00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,066
- [Judy] to fix your truck.
- I made over a million dollars
497
00:19:28,133 --> 00:19:29,467
- with this truck.
- [Judy] That's ridiculous.
498
00:19:29,533 --> 00:19:30,700
I want you to stop it.
499
00:19:30,767 --> 00:19:31,900
Hey, man. Hey, man.
500
00:19:31,967 --> 00:19:33,567
- How can you tell me to stop it?
- Are we going to--?
501
00:19:33,633 --> 00:19:35,100
with some of my work, blood,
sweat and tears on it.
502
00:19:35,166 --> 00:19:36,600
- He can take.
- I need a break.
503
00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:39,100
That's the judgment.
I'm not entertaining your counterclaim.
504
00:19:39,166 --> 00:19:40,567
- That's the judgment of the court.
- Oh, man, man!
505
00:19:40,633 --> 00:19:41,800
You get title to the truck.
506
00:19:41,867 --> 00:19:44,867
You can retrieve it as soon as
you change the registration of the truck.
507
00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:46,700
However, in order to do that,
508
00:19:46,767 --> 00:19:49,500
you have to give your parents
the $3,500
509
00:19:49,567 --> 00:19:50,867
that they put into the truck.
510
00:19:50,934 --> 00:19:52,233
- Do you understand?
- Yes, ma'am.
511
00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:53,633
Your Honor, what about the dog?
512
00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:54,734
- [Judy] We're done.
- [bailiff] This court is adjourned.
513
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,667
We paid for it.
514
00:19:55,734 --> 00:19:56,867
- I have a question to the--
- [Judy] We're done.
515
00:19:56,934 --> 00:19:58,000
- [Davyre] We're paying for his dog.
- [Judy] No, we're done.
516
00:19:58,066 --> 00:19:59,600
- It's over? Okay.
- We paying for this dog.
517
00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:01,600
And we didn't--
and he's not giving us nothin'.
518
00:20:01,667 --> 00:20:03,333
Let me explain something to you.
519
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,266
- It's over.
- The reason--
520
00:20:04,333 --> 00:20:05,567
Let me explain something to you.
521
00:20:05,633 --> 00:20:08,233
The reason that I'm not
hearing your counterclaim
522
00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:11,200
is because the two of you
were disrespectful
523
00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:12,667
and didn't listen to me.
524
00:20:12,734 --> 00:20:15,567
Oh, yes, you did.
That's it. We're done.
525
00:20:15,633 --> 00:20:18,633
{\an8}My actions of my response
to what she was saying
526
00:20:18,700 --> 00:20:21,433
{\an8}is wasn't nothing--
being disrespectful towards her.
527
00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:24,266
{\an8}I'm very glad she ruled in my favor.
528
00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:27,033
{\an8}It was the initial, you know,
529
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:28,633
{\an8}the--the thought of giving up
530
00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,800
{\an8}my hard-earned possessions.
531
00:20:30,867 --> 00:20:34,467
{\an8}It was because I did try to
work it out before we came to court,
532
00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:36,600
{\an8}and they was like, "No,
we're not going to pay you nothing."
533
00:20:36,667 --> 00:20:38,200
{\an8}I never would have
thought in a million years
534
00:20:38,266 --> 00:20:41,500
{\an8}sue my parents.
You know, my parents whoop my butt.
535
00:20:41,567 --> 00:20:43,500
{\an8}But that was just something
you had to go through back then.
536
00:20:43,567 --> 00:20:47,066
{\an8}It saddens me, I'm in disbelief
that my parents did that to me.
537
00:20:47,133 --> 00:20:48,166
{\an8}I didn't think that they would do that.
538
00:20:48,233 --> 00:20:51,133
{\an8}I mean, I'm not sure.
I don't know his plan.
539
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,633
{\an8}I can't... Can't talk to him.
540
00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:56,000
{\an8}If you do business with family,
make sure you get contracts.
541
00:20:56,633 --> 00:20:59,433
You know, I sympathize
with the plaintiff's position on this,
542
00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,834
because modifications of contracts
543
00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:04,467
are supposed to be allowed when
there's a change in circumstance.
544
00:21:04,533 --> 00:21:07,834
So it's not like he was
attempting to change the contract
545
00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:09,533
every Friday or for no reason.
546
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,767
He thought that it was going to be $4,000.
547
00:21:11,834 --> 00:21:14,500
It turned out to be
$10,000 to fix the truck.
548
00:21:14,567 --> 00:21:17,066
And as such,
he wanted the bargain for exchange.
549
00:21:17,133 --> 00:21:19,500
That's a lot more
money than he initially intended.
550
00:21:19,567 --> 00:21:21,934
So that conversation makes sense to me.
551
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,100
That conversation
between his parents that
552
00:21:24,166 --> 00:21:25,900
"I know we had agreed to this,
553
00:21:25,967 --> 00:21:28,967
but now with this new information,
this is what I'm comfortable with."
554
00:21:29,033 --> 00:21:30,633
- Is that okay?
- I think so.
555
00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:33,800
I think that is a common
sense interpretation of what happened.
556
00:21:33,867 --> 00:21:36,867
For a truck that cost $60,000
20 years ago,
557
00:21:36,934 --> 00:21:39,834
to put in $10,000 to it is not nothing.
558
00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:40,734
That's a big investment.
559
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,433
Well, it probably isn't
worth more than that.
560
00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:45,200
And the condition that it
was in before he had it repaired.
561
00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:46,166
Mm-hmm.
562
00:21:46,233 --> 00:21:47,734
- Their position was unreasonable,
- Mm-hmm.
563
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,100
because now they have a fixed truck...
564
00:21:50,367 --> 00:21:53,033
- That their child paid for.
- [Judy] That the child paid for.
565
00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:56,500
And with the animus between them,
it doesn't seem to me
566
00:21:56,567 --> 00:21:59,100
as if he's going to get
any benefit from the bargain.
567
00:21:59,166 --> 00:22:02,633
So the modification of
their original oral contract,
568
00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:05,333
- which I think happens occasionally
- Mm-hmm.
569
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,467
when circumstances change,
as long as both parties agree.
570
00:22:08,533 --> 00:22:11,033
And I actually think that
both the mother and the father said,
571
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,633
"Okay," and then something
happened that I don't know about.
572
00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:15,000
Yeah. Don't want to know about.
573
00:22:15,066 --> 00:22:16,233
- [Judy] And I don't know about it.
- [chuckles]
574
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:18,867
But I think it's fair that he
had possession of the truck
575
00:22:18,934 --> 00:22:20,500
since he paid the majority of it.
576
00:22:20,567 --> 00:22:21,433
Yeah, I agree.
577
00:22:22,967 --> 00:22:24,867
[narrator]
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578
00:22:24,934 --> 00:22:27,033
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579
00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:33,467
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