1 00:00:02,135 --> 00:00:04,004 [somber music playing] 2 00:00:06,373 --> 00:00:08,742 [Patrick] I could hear what was going on. 3 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:11,978 I was right next door, inside of the house. 4 00:00:12,078 --> 00:00:14,047 I could hear the screaming of the girl. 5 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:20,353 And that's when my heart sunk, because I knew it was Lance. 6 00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:32,866 I wanna be here, and I wanna be talking about this. 7 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:36,169 And it's very hard, very -- makes me nervous, 8 00:00:36,269 --> 00:00:39,839 and it makes my mind run a million miles an hour. 9 00:00:39,939 --> 00:00:42,008 [somber music playing] 10 00:00:44,277 --> 00:00:45,612 Wow. 11 00:00:47,514 --> 00:00:49,249 Wow. 12 00:00:51,351 --> 00:00:52,786 Here, this picture here, 13 00:00:54,354 --> 00:00:56,723 you could see the rage coming out. 14 00:00:59,225 --> 00:01:01,061 And you can see the anger in this man. 15 00:01:02,829 --> 00:01:07,100 I've seen that look before, right before everything goes 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,468 drastically wrong. 17 00:01:09,969 --> 00:01:12,772 I've seen this look right before he explodes. 18 00:01:14,374 --> 00:01:16,009 It was very ugly. 19 00:01:16,109 --> 00:01:19,312 There would be no stopping him, short of killing him. 20 00:01:22,582 --> 00:01:23,583 It's terrible to say. 21 00:01:26,352 --> 00:01:30,423 People call him a monster, call him evil. 22 00:01:30,523 --> 00:01:32,459 It's probably 'cause it's true. 23 00:01:37,697 --> 00:01:40,100 [The Paper Chase's "What's So Amazing About Grace?" plays] 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,403 [strings continue playing sinister tune] 25 00:01:43,503 --> 00:01:48,108 [static crackling] 26 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:50,110 -[knock at door] -[creaking] 27 00:01:50,210 --> 00:01:53,379 -[banging on door] -[creaking] 28 00:01:54,681 --> 00:01:57,717 -[banging on door] -[creaking] 29 00:01:59,819 --> 00:02:02,789 [water dripping] 30 00:02:02,889 --> 00:02:05,258 {\an8}-[banging on door] -[creaking] 31 00:02:05,358 --> 00:02:06,893 {\an8}[sinister chord strikes] 32 00:02:16,002 --> 00:02:17,570 Oh. 33 00:02:19,606 --> 00:02:22,041 This is the most recent picture of my brother, Lance, 34 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:23,143 in prison. 35 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:26,279 {\an8}That looks scary right there. 36 00:02:27,313 --> 00:02:28,781 {\an8}I've never seen this. 37 00:02:28,882 --> 00:02:31,584 {\an8}This is that look after he's done something bad. 38 00:02:31,684 --> 00:02:35,188 This is that, you know, I really don't give a F 39 00:02:35,288 --> 00:02:39,025 or what you do or what you think about it, 40 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:41,995 or what the cops plan on doing. 41 00:02:42,095 --> 00:02:45,865 That's the look of "I do not care about anything 42 00:02:45,965 --> 00:02:49,135 in this world." It just looks scary. 43 00:02:49,235 --> 00:02:50,503 It just looks empty. 44 00:02:52,071 --> 00:02:55,408 I think it's a good thing that he has been caught 45 00:02:55,508 --> 00:02:56,709 and locked away. 46 00:02:56,809 --> 00:02:59,946 I hate that he actually had to kill someone 47 00:03:00,046 --> 00:03:04,083 for that to happen, but... 48 00:03:04,184 --> 00:03:06,419 it's a good thing that this guy is locked up. 49 00:03:07,754 --> 00:03:08,755 He's very dangerous. 50 00:03:10,456 --> 00:03:12,091 Very. 51 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:14,027 [somber music playing] 52 00:03:15,895 --> 00:03:18,798 [sinister music playing] 53 00:03:32,078 --> 00:03:35,248 I've never been able to talk about what it's like 54 00:03:35,348 --> 00:03:36,716 to live with my brother. 55 00:03:36,816 --> 00:03:40,753 So I was very young when I realized my brother Lance 56 00:03:40,853 --> 00:03:42,055 was capable of evil. 57 00:03:43,456 --> 00:03:44,991 It was very scary to grow up with. 58 00:03:48,995 --> 00:03:51,297 I was born and raised in Columbus, Ohio. 59 00:03:52,498 --> 00:03:55,535 There was me and I had three other brothers 60 00:03:55,635 --> 00:03:57,637 and my mother and father lived with us. 61 00:03:57,737 --> 00:03:59,172 And Lance was the oldest. 62 00:04:01,074 --> 00:04:03,977 My father was there for us. He was a hard worker. 63 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:07,180 He worked most of his life, and, um... 64 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,983 he was not at home all the time. 65 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:13,519 He went to work, and then he went out 66 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:16,089 to do his own thing. 67 00:04:16,189 --> 00:04:19,025 My parents, they would go out to this certain club, 68 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:20,226 and they'd play cards 69 00:04:21,227 --> 00:04:23,863 almost every day, and Lance was there 70 00:04:23,963 --> 00:04:25,632 supposed to be babysitting us. 71 00:04:31,971 --> 00:04:34,507 That's when the abusive stuff would happen. 72 00:04:36,743 --> 00:04:38,311 Lance had the reign of the house. 73 00:04:39,912 --> 00:04:41,781 Everyone looked up to him 74 00:04:41,881 --> 00:04:44,017 because he was a star football player. 75 00:04:45,051 --> 00:04:47,253 But Lance drank. 76 00:04:47,353 --> 00:04:50,657 When he would start to drink, then you would see him 77 00:04:50,757 --> 00:04:53,359 kind of turn... scary. 78 00:04:53,459 --> 00:04:55,995 You know, everything would get more dangerous. 79 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:59,766 Everything would get more edgy. 80 00:05:01,534 --> 00:05:04,537 You either did what he said to do or you're gonna get beat. 81 00:05:05,872 --> 00:05:07,006 That's just the way it was. 82 00:05:09,876 --> 00:05:11,744 Then there's... 83 00:05:11,844 --> 00:05:14,213 one time he threw me on the couch. 84 00:05:15,615 --> 00:05:19,419 It started off as playful, and then... 85 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:21,354 it got into more brutal. 86 00:05:23,289 --> 00:05:26,726 He'd subdue you and put pillows over top of you. 87 00:05:28,494 --> 00:05:30,997 Lance was a very big guy. 88 00:05:31,097 --> 00:05:33,766 He would sit on top of the weight of his whole body 89 00:05:33,866 --> 00:05:35,702 on these pillows on top of you 90 00:05:35,802 --> 00:05:37,770 'till you felt like you were smothered 91 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:39,272 and you couldn't breathe. 92 00:05:39,372 --> 00:05:42,175 [actor as Patrick] Get off me! Get off of me! 93 00:05:42,275 --> 00:05:43,810 [Patrick] I'm telling him, you know, "I can't breathe. 94 00:05:43,910 --> 00:05:45,645 I can't breathe." 95 00:05:45,745 --> 00:05:48,014 And he's just sitting on top of you, just laughing, 96 00:05:48,114 --> 00:05:49,882 thinking it's funny, you know. 97 00:05:49,982 --> 00:05:52,985 You're crying and can't, you know, breathe. 98 00:05:53,086 --> 00:05:54,320 It was not funny. 99 00:05:55,688 --> 00:05:58,224 Being such a young child, you know, your mind goes 100 00:05:58,324 --> 00:06:00,993 right to that. It's instant panic. 101 00:06:01,094 --> 00:06:03,196 I was screaming to get up, you know, "Get off of me, 102 00:06:03,296 --> 00:06:05,031 get off of me, let me up." 103 00:06:05,131 --> 00:06:07,934 [as Patrick] Lance, please! 104 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:10,570 Once he heard you crying and screaming, 105 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:12,338 then he'd let you up. 106 00:06:12,438 --> 00:06:14,607 It was almost as if that's what he wanted to hear. 107 00:06:19,912 --> 00:06:22,148 [grim music playing] 108 00:06:29,789 --> 00:06:32,825 One time for Christmas, my parents got me 109 00:06:32,925 --> 00:06:35,795 and my brothers boxing gloves. 110 00:06:35,895 --> 00:06:39,065 With the boxing gloves came, um, 111 00:06:39,165 --> 00:06:40,900 other kids from the neighborhood, 112 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,202 being interested in boxing also. 113 00:06:45,271 --> 00:06:47,840 They would bring their boxing gloves, 114 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:50,877 and we would hold little matches on our porch. 115 00:06:50,977 --> 00:06:52,712 It was kinda like a boxing ring. 116 00:06:53,980 --> 00:06:54,981 My brother, Lance, 117 00:06:56,249 --> 00:06:59,185 got the idea to hold some boxing matches. 118 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:02,255 [as Lance] I wanna see you guys fight. 119 00:07:02,355 --> 00:07:05,091 [Patrick] It started off as good, clean fun. 120 00:07:05,191 --> 00:07:07,160 I had learned a little bit about boxing, 121 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:09,929 and my friends didn't know anything about boxing. 122 00:07:11,431 --> 00:07:13,633 And sometimes it would get ugly. 123 00:07:13,733 --> 00:07:15,601 They would make me box my friends. 124 00:07:17,737 --> 00:07:21,407 I had a friend named Frankie that lived down the street. 125 00:07:21,507 --> 00:07:24,210 There was no beef between me or him or anything, 126 00:07:24,310 --> 00:07:27,213 and Lance just made us box just out of -- 127 00:07:27,313 --> 00:07:28,748 just 'cause we were there. 128 00:07:28,848 --> 00:07:30,917 "Hey, how about you two get it on this time?" 129 00:07:33,085 --> 00:07:35,788 [Patrick] My friend knew nothing about boxing. 130 00:07:35,888 --> 00:07:38,424 When my brother Lance was like, "Get him, get him." 131 00:07:38,524 --> 00:07:39,892 [as Lance] Take him out. 132 00:07:39,992 --> 00:07:41,961 And I hit him with a couple of good ones. 133 00:07:45,031 --> 00:07:47,633 I mean, I could see he wanted to quit. 134 00:07:47,733 --> 00:07:49,101 And Lance is standing there, why? 135 00:07:49,202 --> 00:07:51,604 Encouraging you. "Beat him. 136 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:54,373 Beat him up." 137 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:57,343 I would do what Lance told me to do. 138 00:07:57,443 --> 00:07:59,512 Lance was too scary to say no to. 139 00:08:02,381 --> 00:08:04,183 Now, I remember my friend taking off 140 00:08:04,283 --> 00:08:06,018 and going home crying that day. 141 00:08:09,856 --> 00:08:13,726 He did not want to be my friend too much longer after that. 142 00:08:13,826 --> 00:08:15,228 I lost a friend that day. 143 00:08:18,297 --> 00:08:19,932 Lance was in his element. 144 00:08:20,032 --> 00:08:21,868 He was getting off on this. 145 00:08:21,968 --> 00:08:23,636 To see you fight. 146 00:08:24,937 --> 00:08:27,373 I'm sure he just liked the violence of it. 147 00:08:42,588 --> 00:08:46,025 Lance was always kinda devious, 148 00:08:46,125 --> 00:08:49,428 thinking of new ways to do some evil stuff. 149 00:08:51,764 --> 00:08:53,566 There was this one morning where 150 00:08:55,067 --> 00:08:59,472 I had woken up and my middle brother was still asleep. 151 00:08:59,572 --> 00:09:01,507 And he was laying in the bed. 152 00:09:03,776 --> 00:09:07,513 Lance got my parents' shotgun out of the back of the closet. 153 00:09:07,613 --> 00:09:10,917 And he said, "Hey, let's put it on our brother's face. 154 00:09:11,017 --> 00:09:12,552 Wouldn't that be funny when he wakes up?" 155 00:09:15,154 --> 00:09:16,355 I didn't know any better. 156 00:09:16,455 --> 00:09:18,090 I didn't know what a gun would do to you, 157 00:09:18,190 --> 00:09:19,191 you know, at that time. 158 00:09:21,093 --> 00:09:23,195 This is the first time I had ever held a gun 159 00:09:23,296 --> 00:09:25,064 or touched a gun, 160 00:09:25,164 --> 00:09:26,999 and the gun was very heavy. 161 00:09:27,099 --> 00:09:28,167 It was very big. 162 00:09:29,135 --> 00:09:32,138 I actually needed Lance to hold the gun. 163 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:34,006 We both have a hold of it like this. 164 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:40,846 We just tapped my brother on the bridge of his nose 165 00:09:40,947 --> 00:09:44,016 with the double barrel shotgun, like, "Hey, wake up." 166 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,520 And he woke up, and his eyes opened. 167 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:49,088 He was terrified. 168 00:09:51,057 --> 00:09:54,060 When I saw my brother and how terrified he was, 169 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,529 it was not funny anymore. 170 00:09:56,629 --> 00:09:59,532 The whole time, Lance was holding this gun, 171 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:02,835 he had a devious laugh. 172 00:10:02,935 --> 00:10:06,038 If you heard that laugh, then he was enjoying it. 173 00:10:06,138 --> 00:10:08,441 [sinister laugh] 174 00:10:09,909 --> 00:10:12,612 When I think about that now, you know, I feel terrified 175 00:10:12,712 --> 00:10:15,948 for my brother and for us. 176 00:10:16,048 --> 00:10:17,483 What if that gun would have went off? 177 00:10:18,684 --> 00:10:22,989 You know, that'd be terrible to live with. 178 00:10:24,557 --> 00:10:27,693 You know, I was so young that it did not even 179 00:10:27,793 --> 00:10:29,829 register in my mind 180 00:10:29,929 --> 00:10:32,498 the aftermath that could have happened. 181 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,235 That's the terrifying thing of it. 182 00:10:36,335 --> 00:10:38,437 I didn't even know if it was loaded or not. 183 00:10:49,415 --> 00:10:51,450 This particular day, right after school, 184 00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:54,086 when I come home and... 185 00:10:54,186 --> 00:10:56,689 I would play with my little brother. 186 00:10:56,789 --> 00:11:00,993 Lance and his girlfriend were arguing in the next room. 187 00:11:01,093 --> 00:11:02,895 [Lance yelling indistinctly] 188 00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:04,330 And we could hear them. 189 00:11:04,430 --> 00:11:05,865 He was always arguing with the women, 190 00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:08,768 always fighting with his women. 191 00:11:08,868 --> 00:11:12,238 And then I heard a gunshot. 192 00:11:12,338 --> 00:11:14,373 [muffled gunshot firing] 193 00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:19,145 Lance is supposed to be babysitting 194 00:11:19,245 --> 00:11:21,247 {\an8}me and my little brother at this time. 195 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:25,117 {\an8}Instead, he's arguing with girls, 196 00:11:25,217 --> 00:11:27,820 putting guns to their head. 197 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,856 When I heard the gunshot, I just instinctively look up, 198 00:11:30,956 --> 00:11:35,061 and I could see the bullet go over top of our heads, 199 00:11:35,161 --> 00:11:36,462 went out one wall, and through the other wall. 200 00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:38,764 It was chaos, you know, 201 00:11:38,864 --> 00:11:41,033 pandemonium -- total chaos. 202 00:11:41,133 --> 00:11:44,970 And I immediately jumped up and just ran and... 203 00:11:45,071 --> 00:11:48,340 kicked in the bathroom door, you know, push the door open... 204 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:50,910 Get out! 205 00:11:53,045 --> 00:11:55,681 ...to see, you know, Lance and the girl in there, 206 00:11:55,781 --> 00:11:58,050 the girl screaming, Lance standing there 207 00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:59,719 with the gun, I was afraid. 208 00:11:59,819 --> 00:12:01,721 [as Lance] Shut up now! 209 00:12:01,821 --> 00:12:05,991 [dark chord strike] 210 00:12:06,092 --> 00:12:08,661 You know, I was thinking, like, "Oh, my God, 211 00:12:08,761 --> 00:12:10,696 he shot this girl in her face." 212 00:12:12,932 --> 00:12:14,166 But he did not. 213 00:12:14,266 --> 00:12:17,036 What had happened, he had shot right by her head. 214 00:12:18,337 --> 00:12:21,173 And the gunpowder, and all of that hit her in the face, 215 00:12:21,273 --> 00:12:22,908 and burnt her face. 216 00:12:23,008 --> 00:12:24,677 And that's why she was bent over 217 00:12:25,878 --> 00:12:26,879 crying like that. 218 00:12:30,616 --> 00:12:33,419 She did not say anything. 219 00:12:33,519 --> 00:12:35,755 It's like it never happened. 220 00:12:35,855 --> 00:12:40,559 There was no consequence for him in that whole situation, 221 00:12:40,659 --> 00:12:41,827 which only fueled 222 00:12:42,962 --> 00:12:44,330 the evil things he could do. 223 00:12:45,965 --> 00:12:47,366 He had gotten away with that one. 224 00:12:49,201 --> 00:12:52,605 When that happened, you just knew in your mind 225 00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:55,207 and your heart that he was capable of this. 226 00:12:56,575 --> 00:12:58,944 You always kind of had your mind and your heart 227 00:12:59,044 --> 00:13:00,446 prepared for... 228 00:13:01,714 --> 00:13:03,382 what craziness is gonna come next. 229 00:13:12,858 --> 00:13:16,095 You know, by now, he was, uh, 230 00:13:16,195 --> 00:13:18,497 getting in trouble, getting locked up 231 00:13:19,498 --> 00:13:21,367 a lot, drinking a lot. 232 00:13:22,401 --> 00:13:24,603 I knew that he was committing burglaries. 233 00:13:24,703 --> 00:13:27,673 He would never tell me exactly where and what 234 00:13:27,773 --> 00:13:30,709 these burglaries were, but I just knew. 235 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,383 There was this one night that my brother Lance 236 00:13:37,483 --> 00:13:42,121 and some of his other friends, they just were out late night. 237 00:13:42,221 --> 00:13:45,057 I seen them come home, and they went into the garage. 238 00:13:47,026 --> 00:13:49,495 So I snuck out of the house to see what they had. 239 00:13:52,031 --> 00:13:53,399 I seen that they had 240 00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:57,369 six or seven big bags of marijuana. 241 00:13:59,305 --> 00:14:00,673 Big trash bags full. 242 00:14:03,175 --> 00:14:04,643 There was a part of me that wondered 243 00:14:04,743 --> 00:14:05,945 where they got this from, 244 00:14:06,045 --> 00:14:07,613 but I knew they had broken in 245 00:14:07,713 --> 00:14:09,281 and stole it from someone. 246 00:14:09,381 --> 00:14:11,884 And I sat there and watched the whole thing. 247 00:14:13,452 --> 00:14:16,088 I'm sure him breaking in had a lot to do 248 00:14:16,188 --> 00:14:17,957 with just thrill of it. 249 00:14:18,057 --> 00:14:21,527 He just did it out of pure just... adrenaline 250 00:14:21,627 --> 00:14:22,962 just 'cause he could. 251 00:14:23,062 --> 00:14:27,333 Just the simple fact of it being the wrong thing to do, 252 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:30,870 I knew they were out doing bad things, but I was just glad 253 00:14:30,970 --> 00:14:32,438 that my big brother made it home. 254 00:14:33,672 --> 00:14:36,175 I did not want him to get arrested again, 255 00:14:36,275 --> 00:14:37,776 even though I knew it was wrong, 256 00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:39,311 'cause I still wanted him 257 00:14:39,411 --> 00:14:40,913 to make it home and be safe. 258 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:46,051 [sad, eerie music playing] 259 00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:55,160 [sirens wailing] 260 00:14:57,496 --> 00:15:01,734 [Patrick] Lance broke into the house right next door to our house. 261 00:15:01,834 --> 00:15:04,770 And the girl that used to do babysitting and house sitting 262 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:08,107 for 'em saw Lance going into the window. 263 00:15:08,207 --> 00:15:09,675 Someone called the cops. 264 00:15:11,443 --> 00:15:14,146 Lance was in the house when the cops came. 265 00:15:14,246 --> 00:15:17,716 So he ran down in the basement and barricaded himself 266 00:15:17,816 --> 00:15:19,151 down in the basement. 267 00:15:20,219 --> 00:15:22,187 Lance was big and he was strong, 268 00:15:23,455 --> 00:15:25,624 full of rage, and had no fear. 269 00:15:27,226 --> 00:15:30,996 Once they broke through to go get him, he'd beat them all up, 270 00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:33,065 five or six cops. 271 00:15:33,165 --> 00:15:34,366 They can't get him under control. 272 00:15:34,466 --> 00:15:38,537 They had to call the SWAT, you know, riot gear. 273 00:15:38,637 --> 00:15:41,674 [indistinct chatter over radio] 274 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:43,242 [Patrick] I just remember that day. 275 00:15:43,342 --> 00:15:44,977 They hog tie him to a stretcher 276 00:15:45,077 --> 00:15:46,679 and carry him out. 277 00:15:50,516 --> 00:15:51,984 And they carried him out of there, 278 00:15:52,084 --> 00:15:53,919 and the neighbors were all looking. 279 00:15:55,187 --> 00:15:57,156 It was very embarrassing. 280 00:15:57,256 --> 00:16:00,893 I'm not sure what was in the mind of my parents 281 00:16:00,993 --> 00:16:02,995 at such a young age. 282 00:16:03,095 --> 00:16:05,898 I think they wanted to all just chalk it up to, 283 00:16:05,998 --> 00:16:07,533 "We're just young." 284 00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:12,137 I'm sure that my family was disappointed 285 00:16:12,237 --> 00:16:14,440 and a little bit heartbroken. 286 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:18,844 Then almost every time after that he got arrested, 287 00:16:18,944 --> 00:16:21,513 that's how many cops it took to arrest him. 288 00:16:21,613 --> 00:16:22,881 Almost every time. 289 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:26,719 He got arrested a lot after that. 290 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,555 By the time this incident happened, 291 00:16:29,655 --> 00:16:31,724 it was starting to become the norm. 292 00:16:33,892 --> 00:16:35,661 So you just kind of knew, in your mind, like, 293 00:16:35,761 --> 00:16:38,297 well, you can forget to see him the next year or so. 294 00:16:38,397 --> 00:16:39,431 He'll be gone for a year. 295 00:16:40,599 --> 00:16:43,469 {\an8}[somber music playing] 296 00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:57,149 [siren wailing] 297 00:16:57,249 --> 00:17:00,519 There was just one day that I was coming home from school, 298 00:17:02,054 --> 00:17:04,623 I saw that the police had the whole neighborhood 299 00:17:04,723 --> 00:17:05,724 taped off. 300 00:17:07,192 --> 00:17:09,628 And what I had learned was my friend 301 00:17:09,728 --> 00:17:11,430 who lived up the street, 302 00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:14,867 she had been decapitated and dismembered. 303 00:17:17,536 --> 00:17:19,371 The whole neighborhood was devastated. 304 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,109 We did not ever find out what happened. 305 00:17:24,209 --> 00:17:26,278 Even today, murder unsolved. 306 00:17:29,214 --> 00:17:31,683 The next morning, I looked at my window, 307 00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:35,220 and written in the frost of the window were the words, 308 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,955 "You're next." 309 00:17:38,690 --> 00:17:41,427 Later on in life, I talked to my other brother, 310 00:17:41,527 --> 00:17:45,164 and almost at the same time, we asked the same question, 311 00:17:46,165 --> 00:17:49,034 "Do you think Lance had anything to do with that back then?" 312 00:17:51,103 --> 00:17:54,073 When I look back now, I get kind of terrified 313 00:17:54,173 --> 00:17:55,374 thinking about it. 314 00:17:55,474 --> 00:17:57,976 I could have been killed at, you know, anytime. 315 00:17:58,077 --> 00:17:59,311 I would have never seen it coming. 316 00:18:05,684 --> 00:18:10,222 {\an8}[Patrick] Knowing what I know of Lance now, it makes me wonder, 317 00:18:11,723 --> 00:18:12,858 {\an8}did he do that murder? 318 00:18:15,494 --> 00:18:17,262 Lance might have been bad, 319 00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:19,298 but we didn't think he was that bad. 320 00:18:19,398 --> 00:18:22,868 We didn't think he was capable of anything like that. 321 00:18:22,968 --> 00:18:24,703 We did not think that about him. 322 00:18:24,803 --> 00:18:26,405 Looking back now, 323 00:18:26,505 --> 00:18:27,773 I question it. 324 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:33,245 Lance had a very secretive side to himself. 325 00:18:33,345 --> 00:18:36,615 You know, he'd go off and do devious things by himself. 326 00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:39,985 He didn't need a crowd of people or people to follow him. 327 00:18:40,085 --> 00:18:41,386 He'd just do it himself. 328 00:18:41,487 --> 00:18:44,623 So maybe he could have done it back then. 329 00:18:47,025 --> 00:18:51,497 He'd done so much wrong, and evil stuff. 330 00:18:51,597 --> 00:18:55,634 The next criminal step for him was to kill someone. 331 00:18:55,734 --> 00:18:58,937 It was the only thing that he had not been caught for. 332 00:19:00,706 --> 00:19:03,208 [ominous music playing] 333 00:19:11,483 --> 00:19:16,655 [Patrick] Lance would get drunk and get angry or aggressive. 334 00:19:16,755 --> 00:19:19,258 [indistinct yelling] 335 00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:23,328 The more he drank, the worse he would get. 336 00:19:23,428 --> 00:19:25,731 He would say, "I'm gonna kill you, 337 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:29,101 or I'm gonna do this to you, or I'll do that to you." 338 00:19:29,201 --> 00:19:31,570 It was always to the extreme. 339 00:19:31,670 --> 00:19:33,305 [as Lance] You're dead! 340 00:19:39,411 --> 00:19:41,914 [Patrick] I would always see the remnants of whatever happened. 341 00:19:43,982 --> 00:19:47,719 The bruises and the black eyes, and he would beat her 342 00:19:47,819 --> 00:19:49,354 'til she was unrecognizable. 343 00:19:50,422 --> 00:19:51,623 He would do that a lot. 344 00:19:52,724 --> 00:19:55,561 I felt very sad for her also. 345 00:19:55,661 --> 00:19:57,496 I felt heartbreaking for her. 346 00:19:58,797 --> 00:20:00,799 She was very nice to me. 347 00:20:00,899 --> 00:20:02,434 She was a very wonderful person. 348 00:20:10,909 --> 00:20:13,145 [ominous music playing] 349 00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:17,549 [as girlfriend] Stop, you're crazy! 350 00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:20,352 There was this one day, they were arguing. 351 00:20:20,452 --> 00:20:21,853 The next thing I knew, 352 00:20:21,954 --> 00:20:23,488 he had thrown her down in the basement 353 00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:25,123 and locked the door. 354 00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:27,025 [door banging loudly] 355 00:20:27,125 --> 00:20:31,396 The basement was very scary. It was very dark and damp. 356 00:20:31,496 --> 00:20:34,199 And we had a rat infestation. 357 00:20:34,299 --> 00:20:36,335 And he'd throw you down there with the lights off. 358 00:20:36,435 --> 00:20:38,003 [as girlfriend] I know you're there. Let me out. 359 00:20:38,103 --> 00:20:40,739 I could hear her yelling through the door 360 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:42,307 to let her out. 361 00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:44,109 [as girlfriend] Patrick! 362 00:20:44,209 --> 00:20:47,212 She was like my babysitter. She took care of me. 363 00:20:47,312 --> 00:20:50,616 She cleaned for me. She cooked for me. 364 00:20:50,716 --> 00:20:53,852 You know, she was kinda like a second mom, actually. 365 00:20:53,952 --> 00:20:55,887 So that made it even more hurtful. 366 00:20:56,989 --> 00:20:59,524 [as girlfriend] Please, you gotta let me out! 367 00:20:59,625 --> 00:21:02,694 But I knew what would be waiting if I did let her out. 368 00:21:04,062 --> 00:21:05,430 [as girlfriend] Patrick! 369 00:21:05,530 --> 00:21:08,333 [Patrick] I told her, I said, "No, I cannot let you out," 370 00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:12,304 'cause I knew in the back of my mind, if I let her out, 371 00:21:12,404 --> 00:21:15,007 then he'd throw me a beating, a worse beating. 372 00:21:18,143 --> 00:21:20,178 I just walked away and was watching TV 373 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:21,880 in the living room. 374 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:23,882 I could still hear her begging for someone 375 00:21:23,982 --> 00:21:26,385 to let her out the basement. 376 00:21:26,485 --> 00:21:29,688 I just tried to act like it wasn't happening. 377 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:32,391 Yeah, I knew in my heart that I should have helped her, 378 00:21:33,892 --> 00:21:35,427 but I just could not do that. 379 00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:39,798 {\an8}I was afraid of Lance beating me. 380 00:21:49,708 --> 00:21:52,044 [ominous music playing] 381 00:21:53,545 --> 00:21:56,748 [Patrick] One time, he was upset at his girlfriend. 382 00:21:56,848 --> 00:21:58,250 She just had the baby. 383 00:21:59,885 --> 00:22:02,254 My parents were telling him to get out of the house. 384 00:22:02,354 --> 00:22:04,456 Well, he said, "I'll go, 385 00:22:04,556 --> 00:22:07,793 but I'm gonna take my baby with me." 386 00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:10,962 And my mom was like, "No, you're not taking that baby." 387 00:22:12,764 --> 00:22:14,833 My dad's a very big guy, too, 388 00:22:14,933 --> 00:22:18,170 and he has that kind of blind rage himself. 389 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:19,905 You know, you don't wanna push him there. 390 00:22:22,407 --> 00:22:24,509 He ended up throwing Lance out the door. 391 00:22:26,445 --> 00:22:29,181 Well, Lance got a big, giant metal rake 392 00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:34,286 and came and threw it through this plate glass window we had. 393 00:22:34,386 --> 00:22:38,757 [glass shatter] 394 00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:41,259 You know, that glass went flying everywhere. 395 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,428 You know, just the sound, it just 396 00:22:43,528 --> 00:22:45,731 sounded like a bomb went off. 397 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:52,704 And I remember they called the police on him that night, 398 00:22:52,804 --> 00:22:54,106 but he had taken off. 399 00:23:05,150 --> 00:23:07,152 We moved different sides of town, 400 00:23:07,252 --> 00:23:10,122 north side, east side of Columbus. 401 00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:13,258 We moved, but Lance was still living at home. 402 00:23:15,026 --> 00:23:20,065 My other older brother that came to live with us 403 00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:25,036 had a girlfriend, then it was getting pretty serious. 404 00:23:25,137 --> 00:23:28,907 She had moved from another state to stay with my brother. 405 00:23:29,007 --> 00:23:32,010 They had a little relationship that went on for a while. 406 00:23:33,044 --> 00:23:35,046 She was really good friends with my mother. 407 00:23:35,147 --> 00:23:38,016 She's really good friends with the whole family, you know. 408 00:23:38,116 --> 00:23:41,153 We took her in, just like she was one of our own. 409 00:23:43,321 --> 00:23:44,689 Lance had his eyes on her. 410 00:23:44,790 --> 00:23:46,258 Lance was just kind of like that. 411 00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:48,360 He kind of had his eyes on everybody. 412 00:23:50,562 --> 00:23:54,099 I think Lance stayed pretty clear from her 413 00:23:54,199 --> 00:23:57,102 while her and my other brother were dating. 414 00:23:57,202 --> 00:23:59,905 But once they broke up, maybe in his mind, 415 00:24:00,005 --> 00:24:01,940 he thought she was fair game. 416 00:24:04,676 --> 00:24:06,178 But she did not want him. 417 00:24:07,612 --> 00:24:09,714 To some degree, he could control himself. 418 00:24:11,216 --> 00:24:15,720 But, you know, once her and my older brother broke up, 419 00:24:15,821 --> 00:24:19,391 there was no controlling Lance about that situation anymore. 420 00:24:21,393 --> 00:24:23,328 It was beginning to get worse. 421 00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:34,739 {\an8}When he raped her, 422 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,976 {\an8}I didn't understand the nature of the crime, 423 00:24:38,076 --> 00:24:41,146 but I knew the person he had done it to. 424 00:24:41,246 --> 00:24:45,684 I was still so young, I didn't understand the repercussions 425 00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:47,886 of what a rape is. 426 00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:50,755 I didn't know this is something that would stick with you, 427 00:24:50,856 --> 00:24:52,457 your whole life. 428 00:24:52,557 --> 00:24:56,795 There was never much discussion about what Lance had done, 429 00:24:56,895 --> 00:25:00,465 'cause it was so full of hurt and disappointment. 430 00:25:00,565 --> 00:25:03,201 You just knew he was gone, and that was it. 431 00:25:04,436 --> 00:25:07,606 But as I began to get older, 432 00:25:08,807 --> 00:25:12,077 this girl, I would see her once every couple years. 433 00:25:12,177 --> 00:25:15,914 And as I began to understand what rape was and all about, 434 00:25:16,014 --> 00:25:18,183 every time I would see her, it would just kind of make me 435 00:25:18,283 --> 00:25:19,251 feel sad for her. 436 00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:20,719 You know, it was kind of heartbreaking. 437 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,824 I began to understand what that means to live with for years, 438 00:25:25,924 --> 00:25:28,026 that it's forever, you know? 439 00:25:28,126 --> 00:25:31,863 Something that can affect somebody forever, and... 440 00:25:33,265 --> 00:25:35,534 a lot of bad repercussions can come from it. 441 00:25:38,904 --> 00:25:43,575 To be afraid of Lance and at the same time still have love 442 00:25:43,675 --> 00:25:46,978 for him as a brother is just -- 443 00:25:47,078 --> 00:25:50,415 you know, love does strange things, you know? 444 00:25:50,515 --> 00:25:53,618 A person that could beat on you and get taken away, 445 00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:55,720 you still loved him and missed him. 446 00:25:57,889 --> 00:26:01,293 So I was kind of conflicted between the two. 447 00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:06,665 This was the first time he got locked up for a significant 448 00:26:06,765 --> 00:26:08,133 period of time. 449 00:26:09,267 --> 00:26:12,637 Everything up to this point was small potatoes. 450 00:26:14,005 --> 00:26:17,642 But now he's going to the big house. 451 00:26:18,777 --> 00:26:19,844 Big crime. 452 00:26:21,346 --> 00:26:24,950 This was the first time that we knew Lance 453 00:26:25,050 --> 00:26:28,286 had committed rape and was convicted of it. 454 00:26:31,156 --> 00:26:32,757 What craziness is gonna come next? 455 00:26:40,165 --> 00:26:42,334 [sad, eerie music playing] 456 00:26:45,937 --> 00:26:51,643 {\an8}[Patrick] This photo here, is me and my brother, Lance. 457 00:26:51,743 --> 00:26:53,011 {\an8}This is in West Virginia. 458 00:26:54,012 --> 00:26:57,048 {\an8}I'd just gotten a brand new home, 459 00:26:57,148 --> 00:27:00,151 {\an8}and this is probably the first time, 460 00:27:00,251 --> 00:27:02,387 Lance and all my other brothers 461 00:27:02,487 --> 00:27:04,889 and their children and my mother, 462 00:27:04,990 --> 00:27:06,958 they all come down to see my house, 463 00:27:07,058 --> 00:27:09,394 kind of like a housewarming kind of thing. 464 00:27:11,763 --> 00:27:13,798 Lance had just got out of prison, 465 00:27:13,898 --> 00:27:15,967 not too long before this picture was snapped. 466 00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:20,438 Lance had already done 20 years in prison. 467 00:27:21,539 --> 00:27:24,142 Half his life, he spent in prison 468 00:27:24,242 --> 00:27:27,012 already in that picture. 469 00:27:27,112 --> 00:27:31,349 And now we were coming together, and I'd pretty much 470 00:27:31,449 --> 00:27:35,253 forgotten all the traumatizing stuff from as a child. 471 00:27:36,254 --> 00:27:40,792 He got a job and someone introduced him to his wife. 472 00:27:40,892 --> 00:27:43,094 Everything was going great for him. 473 00:27:43,194 --> 00:27:44,729 It was starting to feel 474 00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:46,998 like everything was gonna be OK. 475 00:27:47,098 --> 00:27:50,568 Him and his wife and my other brothers, 476 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:52,771 they would all come down and see me 477 00:27:52,871 --> 00:27:54,272 every once in a while. 478 00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:58,309 We'd have, you know, cookouts, bonfires at night, 479 00:27:59,377 --> 00:28:01,446 laughing, joking. 480 00:28:01,546 --> 00:28:04,616 It felt good, you know, to have my brothers back, 481 00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:07,619 you know, where I was feeling for so long 482 00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:09,621 that I had lost brothers. 483 00:28:09,721 --> 00:28:12,657 All of that bullying stuff, it's all over with now. 484 00:28:18,329 --> 00:28:20,598 [ominous music playing] 485 00:28:27,806 --> 00:28:31,509 [Patrick] He called and said he was over at this girl's house. 486 00:28:34,145 --> 00:28:36,715 Once I got there, he was already asleep. 487 00:28:36,815 --> 00:28:40,251 And I was trying everything I could to wake him up. 488 00:28:40,351 --> 00:28:42,353 I was shaking him. I was screaming at him. 489 00:28:42,454 --> 00:28:45,457 I was hollering at him. Kept trying to shake him. 490 00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:46,858 He would not wake up. 491 00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:49,594 It was like he was in a coma, or something. 492 00:28:49,694 --> 00:28:51,062 He was just asleep. 493 00:28:53,131 --> 00:28:56,668 Checked on him the next day. He was still asleep. 494 00:28:56,768 --> 00:28:58,403 Came back and did the same thing again. 495 00:28:58,503 --> 00:28:59,771 Tried to shake him and wake him. 496 00:28:59,871 --> 00:29:01,840 The next day, he would not wake up. 497 00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:04,576 Called the next day. 498 00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:06,978 He was still sleeping. 499 00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:09,514 By now, this is three days he's been asleep. 500 00:29:10,615 --> 00:29:12,984 So I really didn't understand. 501 00:29:13,084 --> 00:29:16,154 I thought maybe he was just sleeping a binger off, 502 00:29:16,254 --> 00:29:17,589 or something like that. 503 00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:20,291 But every time I come knock on the door, 504 00:29:20,391 --> 00:29:22,594 she's like, "He's still asleep." 505 00:29:22,694 --> 00:29:25,063 I go home, give it a couple hours, I call. 506 00:29:25,163 --> 00:29:26,865 She's like, "I tried to wake him up. 507 00:29:26,965 --> 00:29:28,566 He's still asleep." 508 00:29:30,502 --> 00:29:33,171 I was concerned of what he, whatever it was, 509 00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:35,573 he went through to be like that. 510 00:29:37,208 --> 00:29:40,345 He finally woke up and give me a call. 511 00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:42,080 I rushed right down and got him. 512 00:29:45,116 --> 00:29:47,252 I did ask him 513 00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:51,256 the night he come to the house, "What was going on? 514 00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:52,557 What's wrong? What are you doing here?" 515 00:29:53,992 --> 00:29:55,827 He told me that him and his wife, 516 00:29:55,927 --> 00:29:57,262 they got into a fight. 517 00:29:58,329 --> 00:30:01,566 Lance said that, you know, he's having some problems 518 00:30:01,666 --> 00:30:03,301 at home, and I just... 519 00:30:04,302 --> 00:30:06,271 basically believed it, you know. 520 00:30:06,371 --> 00:30:09,240 It was easy to chalk it up to that. 521 00:30:09,340 --> 00:30:11,709 You know, yup, he's just got in a fight and just, 522 00:30:13,411 --> 00:30:14,946 you know, 523 00:30:15,046 --> 00:30:17,282 getting away from the problem, whatever it was. 524 00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:21,019 It did make sense to me then. 525 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,389 It sounded like something... 526 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:26,291 you know, it sounded like Lance. 527 00:30:27,358 --> 00:30:29,761 [ominous chord rises] 528 00:30:43,408 --> 00:30:46,678 He came in like, "Hey, man, hey, dawg, I gotta go." 529 00:30:48,479 --> 00:30:50,582 I didn't understand why he just took off, 530 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:52,350 just like that, in an instant. 531 00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:54,085 He was hanging around for three months, 532 00:30:54,185 --> 00:30:56,454 and then now he just leaves, just like that. 533 00:30:57,655 --> 00:31:01,159 And that actually was it. That was it. 534 00:31:02,427 --> 00:31:04,462 No explanations, no anything. 535 00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:09,801 I felt like he had used me as soon as he left, you know? 536 00:31:09,901 --> 00:31:11,836 Not really a thank you or anything. 537 00:31:11,936 --> 00:31:15,173 He was just quick handshake and tried to walk out the door. 538 00:31:16,207 --> 00:31:18,643 So I was just kind of like, "Whatever, man, just go on." 539 00:31:19,944 --> 00:31:21,846 I was hurt. I was hurt by that. 540 00:31:27,952 --> 00:31:29,654 Maybe less than a week later, 541 00:31:29,754 --> 00:31:31,689 someone from the family called me and was like, 542 00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:35,793 "Hey, man, your brother's on the news." 543 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,729 I'm like, "What? 544 00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:39,731 What's he on the news for now, you know?" 545 00:31:43,201 --> 00:31:45,637 Turned on the news, and that's when I seen 546 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:49,007 that the cops had Lance's home 547 00:31:49,107 --> 00:31:50,341 surrounded. 548 00:31:50,441 --> 00:31:54,812 And the caption on the news story was a SWAT standoff 549 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:56,247 with a murder suspect. 550 00:32:01,152 --> 00:32:03,021 [sinister chord strike] 551 00:32:18,736 --> 00:32:20,672 [Patrick] He was accused of murdering three women. 552 00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:26,244 I was just totally blown away, like, what? 553 00:32:26,344 --> 00:32:28,913 Like, you know, they was telling me they'd been 554 00:32:29,013 --> 00:32:31,749 looking for him the whole time where he was at my house. 555 00:32:31,849 --> 00:32:34,953 I was like, oh, my gosh, Like, I had no idea. 556 00:32:35,053 --> 00:32:37,822 Just totally clueless and just blown away. 557 00:32:37,922 --> 00:32:39,824 You know, it was the furthest thing from my mind 558 00:32:39,924 --> 00:32:42,360 that I thought was going on. 559 00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:46,965 So, that's when I started to put two and two together. 560 00:32:47,065 --> 00:32:50,702 At the time, he had did these crimes and come down, 561 00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:53,571 and he was staying at this girl's house 562 00:32:53,671 --> 00:32:56,708 and he slept for three days straight, 563 00:32:56,808 --> 00:33:00,411 it made me concerned about why he slept so much. 564 00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:03,915 But knowing what I know now, 565 00:33:04,015 --> 00:33:06,851 they call it "the murder sleep." 566 00:33:06,951 --> 00:33:10,521 That's where you let out all the stress, and the strain, 567 00:33:10,621 --> 00:33:13,992 and the guilt of doing these crimes. 568 00:33:14,092 --> 00:33:15,259 That's what happened. 569 00:33:17,028 --> 00:33:19,897 So that's why he took off and came to my house, 570 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:24,168 'cause they had been looking for him to question him 571 00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:25,870 about these murders. 572 00:33:27,205 --> 00:33:29,874 Just hit me like a ton of bricks, and I was like, 573 00:33:29,974 --> 00:33:31,743 "Oh, this is it." 574 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:33,111 He's finally reached 575 00:33:34,078 --> 00:33:35,947 the final plateau of crime. 576 00:33:37,715 --> 00:33:39,384 [sobs softly] 577 00:33:40,752 --> 00:33:42,153 Sorry. 578 00:33:48,926 --> 00:33:50,261 [birds chirping] 579 00:33:50,361 --> 00:33:52,130 [Patrick] The investigators came to the house, 580 00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:53,731 {\an8}and they asked me the questions. 581 00:33:53,831 --> 00:33:56,100 {\an8}And I said, "Now, let me ask you guys a question." 582 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,069 {\an8}I said, "Do you really think he did this?" 583 00:33:59,404 --> 00:34:00,972 Are you sure? 584 00:34:01,072 --> 00:34:03,241 And one of the investigators, and he turned around 585 00:34:03,341 --> 00:34:04,542 with a very serious look. 586 00:34:04,642 --> 00:34:07,979 And he looked down his glasses, and he said, "You think we'd 587 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,249 drive five hours if we didn't think he did this?" 588 00:34:14,419 --> 00:34:16,754 Then I knew this was it. 589 00:34:16,854 --> 00:34:19,257 Just always seemed like a matter of time, 590 00:34:19,357 --> 00:34:21,626 but he was out and doing so well, 591 00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:23,828 it was the furthest thing from my mind. 592 00:34:25,696 --> 00:34:28,099 I didn't think that would happen. 593 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,402 I definitely developed hope that he was past the worst. 594 00:34:32,970 --> 00:34:34,939 There were no discussions 595 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,475 that I was included in about that. 596 00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:43,214 And it was such a bad crime that people were hesitant 597 00:34:43,314 --> 00:34:44,482 to talk about it. 598 00:34:44,582 --> 00:34:46,918 So I was basically just clueless 599 00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:48,619 in whatever was going on. 600 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,122 I had no idea what was going on, 601 00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:52,757 when he was going to... 602 00:34:53,858 --> 00:34:57,462 court, or exact charges he was charged with. 603 00:34:58,563 --> 00:34:59,564 I was in the dark. 604 00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:12,343 [reading newspaper] "David Lance Bruce 605 00:35:12,443 --> 00:35:15,813 "might be spending the rest of his life in prison. 606 00:35:15,913 --> 00:35:20,885 "A Fairfield County jury of five women and seven men 607 00:35:20,985 --> 00:35:22,720 "found Bruce guilty 608 00:35:22,820 --> 00:35:25,857 "of two counts of aggravated murder, 609 00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:30,061 "one count of murder, one count of kidnapping, 610 00:35:30,161 --> 00:35:33,397 "and two counts of aggravated robbery. 611 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,435 "The maximum sentence 612 00:35:37,535 --> 00:35:41,606 he could be given is life in prison without parole." 613 00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:45,543 Wow. 614 00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:47,211 What a monster! 615 00:35:50,414 --> 00:35:53,618 "Bruce's mother is sad about the guilty verdict, 616 00:35:53,718 --> 00:35:55,953 "and that her son is going to prison, 617 00:35:57,221 --> 00:36:00,324 but is relieved he didn't get the death penalty." 618 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,562 I didn't know my mom was there every day. 619 00:36:04,662 --> 00:36:05,863 I didn't know he was 620 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,133 on trial for, um -- 621 00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:11,102 sentence could have been the death penalty. 622 00:36:11,202 --> 00:36:12,570 I didn't know. 623 00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:15,873 I separated myself from that situation. 624 00:36:16,974 --> 00:36:18,910 It makes me very sad for my mother 625 00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:21,145 to know that she went through that now, 626 00:36:21,245 --> 00:36:23,381 and she was there by herself, you know. 627 00:36:24,615 --> 00:36:28,286 I'm sure she went there every day by herself, 628 00:36:28,386 --> 00:36:30,988 drove there herself, sat there herself, 629 00:36:31,088 --> 00:36:34,792 afterwards, by herself, probably cried about it by herself. 630 00:36:34,892 --> 00:36:37,161 That's heartbreaking when you think about it. 631 00:36:38,896 --> 00:36:40,531 [somber chord rises] 632 00:36:54,745 --> 00:36:58,216 [Patrick] I was just so blown away from it and just wanting 633 00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:02,386 to just separate myself from the whole thing 634 00:37:02,486 --> 00:37:05,456 That I did not, I did not wonder about the trial. 635 00:37:05,556 --> 00:37:08,125 I did not watch it or participate in it. 636 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:09,527 It was just too much. 637 00:37:11,729 --> 00:37:15,132 I separated myself from that situation just 'cause, 638 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,369 you know, I had family and I had kids and I just, 639 00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:20,972 I could not have them be a part of that. 640 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:22,974 He wasted a lot of his life. 641 00:37:24,342 --> 00:37:25,943 He could have done something. 642 00:37:26,043 --> 00:37:27,612 He could have stopped going to prison. 643 00:37:27,712 --> 00:37:29,180 He could have helped himself. 644 00:37:30,615 --> 00:37:33,884 But there was always this thing that he just couldn't stop. 645 00:37:36,854 --> 00:37:38,823 I'm sure everyone that knows him 646 00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:40,725 is wondering the same thing. 647 00:37:40,825 --> 00:37:42,193 "Did he have it in him? 648 00:37:42,293 --> 00:37:44,328 "Did he do it before? 649 00:37:44,428 --> 00:37:45,930 Did he do it again?" 650 00:37:46,030 --> 00:37:47,365 It's a big question. 651 00:37:48,499 --> 00:37:50,368 There was a lot of evidence against him. 652 00:37:52,670 --> 00:37:53,638 I don't know. 653 00:37:56,774 --> 00:37:59,076 [somber, eerie music playing] 654 00:38:04,915 --> 00:38:07,752 He's reached out. We have spoken a couple times. 655 00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:12,857 Just can't, I can't afford to put my feelings inside of it. 656 00:38:14,158 --> 00:38:16,661 I have to keep going on with my life. 657 00:38:18,896 --> 00:38:21,899 [producer] And what is it like to hear from him? 658 00:38:21,999 --> 00:38:23,734 [sighs deeply] 659 00:38:26,404 --> 00:38:28,306 It's sad to hear from him. 660 00:38:28,406 --> 00:38:30,775 It's really sad to hear from him. 661 00:38:32,243 --> 00:38:35,746 Knowing that he's gonna be gone forever, and... 662 00:38:37,248 --> 00:38:38,749 It feels like helpless, you know? 663 00:38:38,849 --> 00:38:40,251 Like, there's nothing I can do for you. 664 00:38:40,351 --> 00:38:41,352 I can't help you. 665 00:38:43,287 --> 00:38:45,389 You've put yourself there, you know? 666 00:38:45,489 --> 00:38:46,624 And I can't get you out. 667 00:38:46,724 --> 00:38:48,459 Like, there's nothing anyone can do. 668 00:38:49,794 --> 00:38:51,295 You know, I could go and visit him. 669 00:38:51,395 --> 00:38:52,763 I could talk to him on the phone. 670 00:38:52,863 --> 00:38:56,801 But to talk to him about everything he'd done 671 00:38:58,636 --> 00:39:00,504 in life, and to me, 672 00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:04,275 no, that's still a challenge for me. 673 00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:10,948 I think there was a little bit of part of me that just, 674 00:39:11,048 --> 00:39:12,249 you know, was thinking, like, 675 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,251 "How could you do that, you know? 676 00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:17,755 I just don't wanna be a part of you anymore, you know?" 677 00:39:17,855 --> 00:39:18,956 I was done. 678 00:39:20,291 --> 00:39:21,992 There are a lot of victims there, 679 00:39:22,993 --> 00:39:25,463 not just with this case, 680 00:39:25,563 --> 00:39:27,498 all the other cases before. 681 00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:32,169 Think about how many families are victims 682 00:39:32,269 --> 00:39:35,406 that he's just destroyed and devastated. 683 00:39:37,541 --> 00:39:41,412 Being a brother is someone you, you know, you look out for, 684 00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:47,284 you protect, and you educate them, and help them grow up. 685 00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:51,088 Teach them the right and wrongs of life. 686 00:39:53,457 --> 00:39:55,593 That's what being a brother is. 687 00:39:55,693 --> 00:39:57,461 [producer] Did Lance do any of that for you? 688 00:39:59,296 --> 00:40:01,732 No, Lance did not do any of that. 689 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:06,070 He did all the opposite of everything I just mentioned. 690 00:40:14,812 --> 00:40:17,248 The things he did were definitely wrong, 691 00:40:17,348 --> 00:40:19,550 and they can never be forgiven. 692 00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:22,019 There is no fixing that. 693 00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:25,189 I would not wanna see harm come to him, 694 00:40:25,289 --> 00:40:28,759 but he's definitely where he needs to be, 695 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,562 you know, paying for his crimes. 696 00:40:33,330 --> 00:40:37,401 I feel like I'm able to move through life 697 00:40:37,501 --> 00:40:38,903 pretty good 698 00:40:39,003 --> 00:40:40,438 because of all of the stuff 699 00:40:40,538 --> 00:40:42,940 {\an8}that I've been through. 700 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,578 {\an8}And the stuff that Lance did kinda shook me to my core 701 00:40:47,678 --> 00:40:51,415 {\an8}and made me realize I better get myself together 702 00:40:51,515 --> 00:40:54,652 {\an8}or I might end up in the same position one day. 703 00:40:56,253 --> 00:40:58,722 {\an8}That I can be better than that in life, 704 00:40:58,823 --> 00:41:01,525 {\an8}and gave me a goal to go after, 705 00:41:01,625 --> 00:41:04,728 {\an8}to make me the person who I am today. 706 00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:06,897 {\an8}[somber music ends] 707 00:41:14,338 --> 00:41:17,575 Our daughter said "Mommy, why is daddy's picture on TV?" 708 00:41:18,976 --> 00:41:21,979 And I saw his picture on the news and I lost my [bleep] 709 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,783 And that there was a manhunt currently looking for him. 710 00:41:26,917 --> 00:41:28,986 I was terified that he knew where I was at.