- If you get obsessive about these conspiracy theories,
it separates you from society.
You think that your friends and family would be happy
to find out that they've been lied to,
but instead, they turn on you.
[tense music]
* *
- Rosanne felt like a failure to launch.
I think she just found in QAnon a purpose.
It was gonna be an opportunity to be a part of something huge.
- I have always been interested in why people believe
in conspiracy theories because I understand firsthand.
It was totally intoxicating.
* *
- What bothers me is my family.
I don't think they think I'm crazy,
but they think that the things I do are crazy.
- This is not a viral pandemic.
This is a fear pandemic.
It has been hard with my children.
I hope that someday my daughter will appreciate
how I'm trying to fight for her.
* *
- Yeah, I've lost lots of supposed friends.
Over and over again, "What's happened to you?"
My mother said she "disagrees with me,"
but she hasn't read anything that I've read
and she doesn't know what the fuck
she's disagreeing with.
* *
- It's almost biblical, where they talk about
how family--brother would turn against brother,
father against son.
- Very little.
[tearfully] And I don't know whether
I'm gonna ever have a good relationship
with him again.
* *
[unsettling music]
* *
- We are at my apartment in Brooklyn, New York.
This is where I work from home,
often, like, crunched up on the couch.
[soft orchestral music]
Right now, the story that I am looking into
is a story about marriages or other familial relationships
where one person is, like,
pretty deep down the conspiracy rabbit hole
and the other person isn't.
- My relationship with [bleep]
has become completely estranged
in the last year.
She's watching YouTube videos.
I mean, she's just getting funneled
down that algorithm, right?
Like, to more and more kind of radical, bizarre things.
- It's not just, like, a funny conspiracy theory
that unicorns and bigfoot is real.
They've been almost indoctrinated in.
And they're, like, set in this core beliefs.
It's exactly like a cult.
You know, and they, like, drink the Kool-Aid.
- It was like watching [bleep] become another person.
And the way he treated me and how vastly it changed
from him loving me and thinking I was wonderful to...
Hating seemingly everything about me.
- It's easier to feel angry at her
than it is to start thinking about how much I miss her.
[keyboard clicking]
- All of these changes kind of exist on a spectrum.
And we're all changing all the time,
and especially now
in the informational environment that we're in,
people change their perspective on the world.
A lot is happening.
And what do you do
if the person you thought you married wakes up one day
and has a different opinion than you
about something really important
and really serious?
[somber music]
* *
- Tomorrow, would've been married for 18 years.
But we were together for 22 years.
So this is actually my favorite picture
from our wedding.
Um, it was our first dance after.
This was our rehearsal supper.
I was 23. He was 25.
[sniffles]
Um...
that was a really great day.
[sniffles]
He didn't say "I do."
He said "I will always."
* *
He brought a lot of peace...
to my life.
A lot of joy. [cries]
[sighs] I felt very stable
when I was with him.
And that--that all left
once he got into Q and conspiratorial thinking.
* *
My name is Stephanie.
I'm a CFO
of a local construction company.
I have two children that...
are characters
that I love,
that make me laugh every day.
Our daughter, she'll be 15 next month.
Our son just turned seven in November.
* *
My ex was very into sports.
He loved the Saints.
Every Sunday was this-- was watching the game,
high-fiving, chest bumping... [laughing] sometimes
when a play would be really good.
We were both really into fantasy football.
I wonder if that experience of following the backchannels
of the sports world on message boards
maybe gave some validity to this stuff for him.
Like, "Ooh, when I used to follow this"
and they'd have somebody who was an insider
and they were right sometimes, you know?
I don't know, it seems like such a small thing,
but I do remember that he would buy into that,
you know?
* *
There were never any signs that things were gonna change.
He was always very down-to-earth,
and grounded, and fun.
You know, it was never a thought in my mind
that he would...
delve into that fantasy land, you know?
* *
He was never into politics.
But he never had, like, strong feelings one way or the other,
and I'd probably describe him before all of this
as fiscally moderate conservative
and very socially liberal.
I put together a timeline
to show the progression of his journey
into the rabbit hole.
It was a steady decline,
and then progressed from there,
you know, stranger and stranger
to a point of concern.
Sometime in the summer of 2020,
he brought up Q for the first time
and said that he would go on record
saying Q+ was President Trump himself.
I actually cried myself to sleep that night.
I mean, I kinda knew that we may be headed
in a rough direction.
He texted me about different theories:
world governments falling, millions of humans trafficked,
our own government killing us off for decades,
9/11 was our government, Uranium One,
SEAL Team Six, Benghazi,
devil worship, ritual sacrifice,
adrenochrome, bioweapons like Covid,
endless wars, media corruption...
[sighs] Big Tech, Big Pharma,
"This is what the Great Awakening is.
"I want a future with you more than you know,
"but it'll be based in hard truths and reality,
not some false sense of security."
I talked a lot to my mom about what was going on
and she was like, "No. No.
This is--this is too much now."
I contacted his family
and told them how I was feeling
and said, "At this point,
I gotta do what's best for me and my kids."
So we tried to have sort of a little intervention.
And he got very agitated and angry
when we asked him to limit his internet and phone usage.
[ominous music]
But then things started to get a little darker.
My ex was sleeping.
When I came back in,
he was laying under the covers.
It was--no lamps were on.
That door was closed with the light on,
and he was shivering.
And he was saying that it felt like he was in an ice castle.
And he asked me to lay with him.
Uh, so I did.
- I started having these downloads,
and the first one happened,
and I was laying next to my wife in bed.
And... [sighs]
All of a sudden, I--I... [sighs]
I guess you'd call it a vision.
But you--you were--
you're downloading information somehow.
Just kinda locked up, freezing cold,
tears running down the face.
- When somebody starts talking about having visions
and a calling, and, you know,
if someone's questioning reality in that way,
is it--is it safe...
for...
children?
He also told me that night that...
[sighs] The man I fell in love with was gone...
and that I needed
to decide if I could love this new person.
* *
Two days later, I left.
With the kids.
* *
Since I've left,
now I see that the physical and emotional damage
it was causing was significant
and hard to repair.
This is better for the children,
to be separated from someone wrapped up in that world.
I've had some conversations
with other women in this situation online.
And there is an element of self-doubt.
You know, I experienced it too.
Like, am I-- I'm overreacting, right?
I mean, I'm overreacting to this.
It's not that bad.
I'm--I'm being extra.
But as much as I didn't wanna hear about
these things anymore,
I need to know when that point comes
that me and my kids may be in danger.
- Authorities say 40-year-old surf instructor
Matthew Taylor Coleman
from Santa Barbara, California,
confessed to murdering his two-year-old son
and ten-month-old daughter this week in Mexico,
telling the FBI he was driven to the killings
after being "enlightened" by QAnon.
- He allegedly told authorities
that he believed that he was saving the world
by preventing his two toddlers
from changing into serpent monsters.
- In Los Angeles, back-- just this last April,
there was a woman who killed her three children,
also claiming because she was inspired
by QAnon to protect them from the global cabal.
- The impacts of all of this have been different
on each of our children.
Now, my son sleeps with me every night
and we had a significant issue with our daughter.
Our daughter told me that he had her listen
to frequency music,
which she described as screeching noises,
because he told her it would kill the parasites
in her brain.
[low droning]
Two weeks after that, our daughter was admitted into...
the hospital...
behavioral unit.
She was hospitalized for self-harm
and attributes that to his continued attempts
to indoctrinate her into this belief system.
I asked him...
what he would do if a vision led him
to think he had to harm me and/or the kids to save us.
What if it was framed in your mind
that you were actually helping us
by doing that, you know?
"I--I would know that was wrong," he told me.
But now, I don't know.
And that's just as scary as saying "Yes," I think.
Just that uncertainty.
[soft music]
* *
- Today I'm gonna be talking to Rachel Bernstein,
a psychotherapist who specializes
in people who are trying to leave QAnon
or their family members who want them to leave QAnon.
- Hi. - Hi, Rachel.
I'm Ellen. Oh, hello! - [laughs]
- When did the conspiracy-thinking part
of your job start cropping up
and, like, how much of your client base is it now?
- The conspiratorial thinking
started to become more of my practice
about six years ago.
And I started getting a lot of calls from people saying,
you know, "My," whomever, fill in the blank,
"Is not involved in a cult per se,
'but it seems like they are.
"They're on the phone all the time with these people,"
or "They're on the computer all the time,"
or "They are starting to speak differently,"
or "They're starting to put me down in certain ways
"and they're starting to think things
"that I thought would've seemed delusional in the past,
"but now they seem factual to them,
and I'm very concerned."
So yeah, now it is about 50% of my clientele
and I see, like, 35 or 40 people a week.
- Wow. - It's a lot of people.
And they're really difficult cases.
- What have you seen?
You know, what happens to people?
- You get a sense right away that they're ready for battle.
There's this aggressiveness.
There's a need to prove you wrong.
They're scared.
They really have come to rely on this
and they've dug their heels in.
They feel like they need it.
Again, because it answers the unanswerables.
It's sort of their modern mythology,
and they don't want it taken away.
- Yeah.
- It becomes their new family. - Mm-hmm.
- It becomes their way of relating to the world,
the lens through which they see the world,
the lens through which they see you.
- Yeah.
[soft music]
* *
[cat food pouring]
- Yeah, buddy.
My name is Robert Chapman.
Meow, meow.
I'm a, uh, certified union electrician.
On the channel, on the channel.
I live alone.
I do a lot of reading
and I listen to a lot of podcasts.
Oh, this is a good one.
- There has always been a small controlling class
because this controlling class has this knowledge
of how the human psyche works.
The true intentions and the true aims
of the institution is control, covert control.
You have a dark priest class,
which has been running humanity
pretty much since civilization or society
has, uh, been instituted.
- I mean, we are really being ruled by satanists.
We are being ruled by dark occultists.
That's what is really taking place.
These people have, uh, had control of our planet,
uh, since time immemorial.
- We are living in an occultocracy.
Not in a democracy, as many people believe.
There's a very, very sinister element
to the powers that control the world.
They are highly intelligent.
They are superior in intelligence
to just about everyone else around.
- These people understand every aspect
of how the human mind works.
They are ancient, powerful psychologists
who have done their homework about the human mind
and fully know how to control the mind.
- It's the same bloodlines and certain institutions
even though they have morphed over several centuries
or millennias for thousands of years.
- Dark occultists have completely infiltrated
and permeated all institutional walks of life
on this planet.
- And they're so clever that you're living
in their system.
They're not living in yours.
You're living in theirs.
You were born into bondage.
- Even government is a--is a-- how would I say?
It's a pro--it's an illusion of a diseased psyche.
- Everything is false.
Everything is magic. - Yep.
- Everything is delusion.
And if you don't think so,
well, you're gonna be in for a rude awakening.
- Unfortunately, most people are living under lies
and obfuscation.
They're believing that their perceptions,
which are heavily influenced and dogmatized
by the media or other certain think tanks,
are actually truth,
which, unfortunately, they are not.
[somber music]
* *
Here we have a picture of my father and mother.
Oh, guess who that is.
That is actually me.
Growing up, unfortunately, it was a lot like a lot
of other contemporary American families:
a shattered, broken household.
* *
Growing up in an abusive household,
you don't feel like you're loved.
You feel like you're being "abandoned."
About 18, 19, I was addicted to drugs
and addicted to alcohol.
Those were very challenging times.
And I was starting becoming my late-30s--
I guess probably around 40--
is that a midlife crisis?
[laughs] That could be a, you know--
it's hard to put a finger on what it was,
but I guess I felt a little adrift.
I was all alone.
Just with myself.
Just with my thoughts.
- I realized that a lot of things,
what I held true and a lot of my belief systems
were very, very false.
One of my great friends lent me a few books.
One of my favorites at the time
was Jim Marrs' book "Rule by Secrecy."
- His name was Jim Marrs.
- And while you might not know his name,
a lesion of his fans certainly do,
fans who followed his questions about conspiracies
from aliens to JFK.
- Secret societies are pushing harder than ever
at this very moment for, what they call "globalization,"
or what you may have heard it referred to
as the "New World Order."
- I was very intrigued as to what I was learning.
And I've read another book:
"The Biggest Secret" by Mr. Icke.
- I've been talking about a race
of reptilian, um, humanoids
that have been behind
the manipulation of world events.
- I saw things for the reality they were.
What I thought was reality was not.
And then I realized that politics is a farce.
Um, it's a divide and conquer.
Republocrat, Demopublican, there's really no difference.
You have the rulers and the ruled,
the masters and the slaves.
You know, I'm saying that's why I have
to consider myself like an anarchist,
which basically means no masters, no slaves.
For instance, in January 6th,
a lot people talk about the election.
The election's stolen.
The president of the United States
is not elected.
They are selected.
rioters: Our house! Whose house?
Our house!
Whose house?
January 6th, I was simply there to take a few pictures,
take some videos.
See what's actually ongoing and what's transpiring.
Any kind of protest, rally, demonstration,
oftentimes I'm going there and not to be on one side
or the other, to view, to learn,
to analyze, to talk to people, take pictures, take videos.
- Nancy Pelosi's office is down that hall!
Let's go! - [laughs]
[rioters clamoring]
- A New York man is now facing charges
for taking part in the siege on the U.S. Capitol.
The FBI arrested 50-year-old Robert Chapman yesterday
in Putnam County.
- The FBI got a tip from a surprise source...
one of his matches on the dating app Bumble.
- Chapman told a match on Bumble
he stormed the Capitol in January.
- The person who matched said, "We are not a match."
- That person took a screenshot
and contacted the FBI. [line trilling]
- He's not charged with any violent crimes,
just a few misdemeanors.
- I have two charges of trespassing
and two charges of disorderly conduct.
Probably the worst that could happen
is that the give me probation.
The best would be if they were
to actually drop the charges themselves.
Man, isn't she adorable?
Ah!
Oh, here's when the baby's, uh, first born.
I think I'm at the hospital here.
[somber music]
* *
Roxelana Jade is a wonderful, super heroine of a girl.
She's now three years old.
Very talented and very powerful.
* *
Aw.
Aw, here's Roxelana, look, when she's still in the womb, right?
And she was a punk rebel from the beginning.
She's, like, fist pumping.
Yeah, Roxy's room,
I'm keeping it, uh--
getting it ready. [laughs]
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, it's a work in progress right now.
Yeah, yeah. Once again,
I've been collecting lots of different--
all kinds of books.
And we got all our toys, right?
We got some books up.
And here's a crib.
Her favorite stuffed animals are waiting.
- Correct. Yes, yes.
Roxy--Roxelana was in here.
You had FBI there, NYPD.
Roxelana was here, sleeping in her crib,
and they decided to bash through the door.
And I was tackled, thrown to the ground,
um, handcuffed.
[tense music]
* *
This opened up a case against me
from the--what's it-- the Child Protective Services.
Once they came multiple times and took pictures,
and interviewed me, and tested me,
and came back and interviewed me again,
and did reviews...
[somber music]
* *
I miss her very much.
I've been changing my reading.
Instead of reading a lot more books
about, I guess, uh, banking system and the occult,
I'm reading more books about children.
I've even taken parenting classes.
I only have love and care for my daughter.
And I--I would like to believe I'm a good provider and parent.
I will continue to fight for what is right
and fight for what is moral.
And that is for me to spend as much time as I can
with my daughter as I possibly can.
And once again, I look forward to having her come home soon.
This is--has been her home for quite some time
and I miss her and I know she misses me.
And I'm working hard to, uh, reuniting
and healing what little is left of my family.
* *
[low contemplative music]
* *
- I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about how
conspiratorial thinking affects families, you know,
parent-child relationships, sibling relationships.
- Right, so unfortunately, with conspiratorial thinking,
there are a lot of divorces, custody battles.
It's also wreaked havoc on relationships.
People suddenly feel like they're married to someone
that they don't even recognize anymore.
It's created a lot of problems
between parents and children also
because, um, it's often the parents
who are getting involved, and the children feel like
they're losing their parents to it.
That's often the phrase that's used within systems,
that people don't say,
"Oh, my loved one got involved in this."
They say, "I lost.
"I lost my mother to this.
I lost my spouse."
- Mm-hmm.
[somber music]
* *
[audience cheering]
* *
- Our hearing's tomorrow.
So we go at 9:00 a.m.
to hear the issues of custody,
um, child support,
spousal support, and use of the home.
My ex now has an opportunity to tell his side of the story.
[sighs] I'm feeling very anxious.
I think mostly just ready to get it over with, you know?
* *
My mom came in this afternoon to help me just prepare
for tomorrow and to give me support,
um, while in court and tonight too.
* *
- I know that it's not gonna be easy.
- This is a big deal.
You know, you actually-- you putting it on record.
- I know. - So this is basically just
like a establishing custody.
- Yes.
- What are you gonna say?
I mean-- - Well...
I'm gonna say how this affected our--our child.
You know, the constant attempt
to convince her of these things.
- The--the screeching sound
and the exorcism of what?
- Parasites in her brain. - Parasites in her brain.
- Yeah.
And I might've missed it
until I sat down and actually did that timeline
and noticed, you know,
he'd have a conversation with her,
and 12 days later, she'd be expelled from school
or, you know, he'd have a conversation with her,
and less than two weeks later,
she's in the hospital, you know?
- Right. - You can't, you know,
you can't look at that and those specific dates
and not see some correlation.
So, you know,
I'm gonna stick to the effects on the kids.
- Let them know that you...
you're the mama bear.
That nothing's gonna happen to them because--
I don't know what to expect from him at all.
I do feel like he's chosen Q over his family.
* *
- I love you. - I love you, Mama. So much.
[dog barking]
[soft music]
* *
- I'm very excited and enthused right now.
We're gonna get to go see Roxelana,
our little princess.
[indistinct TV chatter]
- One of the greatest blessings I have is I am able
to see Roxelana every other weekend.
I get to see her on-- usually on Sundays,
and, um, it's normally for about 90 minutes.
So I am able to spend,
at best, three hours with my daughter per month.
Um, that's actually very terrible.
[somber music]
* *
It was just wonderful.
I got to see Roxelana and play with her.
She said she wanted to go outside, so we went outside.
We did slide and played in the clubhouse,
which she has dubbed the "funhouse."
So she had a great time
and, uh, she said she misses me,
and I do miss her very much, tremendously already.
And I hope to see her soon.
- No. Oh, absolutely not.
I did learn a lot, and meet a lot of good people,
and see a lot of interesting things down there.
I wouldn't regret a single thing.
- Um, not really.
Honestly, there's people in jail
who see their children more often than I do.
I--one of my friends went to jail,
and I used to take his son to go visit him.
He would get an hour during the week
and an hour on the weekend.
So I know lots of people that are incarcerated
that get to see their child even more often than I do.
Um, I'm still praying, dreaming, wishing, and focusing
on, uh, alleviating the pain
of a fractured, abandoned family.
* *
- Correct.
- Kay.
- 90 minutes per visit.
- Okay.
- Thank you. - Thank you, Judge.
- Disgusted.
Once again, this is just fuckin' slavery.
You're saying this fuckin' person,
who I don't even fuckin' know,
is a gonna resolve my personal family issue?
Who the fuck are they?
Who the fuck gave them this fucking right?
You know... [stuttering]
what--a--what a poisoned fucking mindset
to think that certain people
have, once again, the diseased fucking illusion
of "authority" over other fuckin' people.
Why, because you have a fucking piece of paper on the wall?
'Cause you're dressed up in a fucking costume?
Once again, it's an illusion,
but that most people fuckin' believe.
Honestly, this person seems so incompetent and uncaring,
I'm...
concerned
that perhaps she will elect--
she will choose not to find the resolution
and will instead elect that this go to trial,
this go to court, in which case this will take--
I've talked to other people--two to three years.
Imagine another 2 1/2 years of trial.
Anytime after one of these ordeals,
doesn't matter whether it's 20 minutes
or 2 1/2 hours,
I can't sit home.
I get the fuck out, you know what I'm saying?
It's just too, uh, disconcerting.
You know, I don't wanna fuckin' stay here.
* *
[somber music]
* *
- Today I'm feeling pretty nervous.
I don't really know what to expect.
I'm going to do my best to relate to the judge
this sense of danger I feel.
This sense of uncertainty I feel
about what he's capable of doing next.
He was easygoing, very much grounded in reality.
I would've never thought in a million years
that he would've hurt anyone.
Until now.
He's so committed
to this false sense of reality,
the conspiracies,
that I could see him harming the children.
I want custody,
and as it stands now,
he has as much custody of my children as I do.
* *
I'm really unsure and nervous
on whether or not the judge will see this
as an actual problem
because I don't think that anyone
can fully understand the difference
until they live it.
Lemme go check and see.
He doesn't know who my ex was before this.
One of the scariest things
is that this is a whole different person.
This is a stranger.
- Oh.
- I don't know what he'd do.
Okay.
- I know.
- Well--
- Yes.
* *
[melancholic guitar music]
- So we all agree... - Mm-hmm.
- That some level of conspiracy thinking,
or at least the thing
that underpins conspiracy thinking,
is, like, curiosity, right?
- Mm-hmm. - About systems,
and wanting to understand how the world works,
and wanting to understand why bad things happen.
- Sometimes, the people who get very involved
in conspiratorial thinking
have more anxiety than other people.
People also get very connected to it
because they were feeling isolated.
- Mm-hmm. - And this is their way
of connecting with people.
And so are you gonna relegate them back
to being isolated in the world by taking it away?
There's also something very intimate
about having a community who you can visit with
in the middle of the night, in your bedroom.
- Right. Right. - You actually don't even
ever have to leave your house.
They're just there.
And there will be hundreds,
unfortunately, hundreds of thousands
of people as soon as you start typing
or as soon as you start going onto different sites.
They're there. They're always there.
And you feel like they're there with you and they're for you.
[soft music]
* *
- Psychologists like Rachel say when we are confronted
with someone who believes in conspiracy thinking,
the best thing you can do is to just ask questions
and try to understand what is drawing them to that,
and why they're searching for that kind of meaning
and control and truth,
and to sort of start to work on the underlying causes,
you know, anxiety, depression.
But I also think that we are in a moment
where conspiracy thinking, like, has a body count
and has really ruined a lot of people's lives.
Listening isn't gonna solve that problem,
and the thing that I am currently
kind of struggling with, is, like,
how much of the solution here is empathy
and kindness and curiosity,
and how much of the solution here
is thinking through what consequences should be
for taking advantage of people?
Taking advantage of people's pain basically.
* *
- [indistinct]
It's called pandering!
[cheers and applause]
[indistinct] an example.
And I think that we need a new system
because the system that was implemented
was put up against us from the very beginning!
This is a global coup, all right?
You are a prop to this New World Order
that they're trying to establish.
[cheering] - Yes!
- It's not a conspiracy theory.
It's a conspiracy
the world leaders have been planning
since the very beginning of this country!
Some of you came from narcissistic families.
- Oh, my God. [laughs] - Dysfunctional homes.
This is exactly what's happening.
And I advise all of you that are here today,
look into the relationship of a narcissistic family
because it is about power and control.
This is how they're able to divide and conquer
because narcissists divide and conquer.
They lied to you!
It's a fear machine!
Every crisis after every crisis that we ever had, 9/11...
- Yup. - Et cetera.
It always comes in with some new law.
But the new law that's put in takes away our freedom
and give them more power!
[cheers and applause]
- Yeah!
Oh, I love this chick.
* *
[groans]
- To listen to your messages, press one.
New message.
- [laughs] - Bye.
- Oh, it was wonderful to hear my daughter.
When I hear her, I can envision her, her face
and her smile.
[sighs]
I'm hoping, praying, dreaming, wishing--
and I'll have to maybe conduct ritual
in order to, um...
I guess, spark a positive-- a positive, uh,
movement as far as what very, very little
I have left of what we would call a family.
I'd like to believe that...
there are--there are someone or some group of people,
on, you know, on some place
that really does sincerely and authentic, uh, you know,
maybe perhaps love and care about me as well.
* *
And when Roxelana is reintroduced
in a much more, um, permanent fashion in my life,
then I will definitely have a family.
Mm.
* *
- Today in court,
the judge ordered an interim custody order
awarding joint custody
with me as the domiciliary parent.
Um, my son is required to go every other weekend
from Friday to Sunday with my ex.
- No.
The judge knew very little about QAnon,
and he sort of felt like it was a "He said, she said."
There wasn't enough facts for him to base that on.
However, my ex didn't deny that he received downloads
to his brain from a dead person.
Um, he in fact admitted it.
And I guess that alone is not enough
to recognize that maybe he's not fit
to parent right now.
So the idea of my son,
who's seven and very impressionable,
being with him alone every other weekend...
is stressful.
* *
I'm afraid that even though he's under an order
not to speak to the kids about these things, he will.
It's gonna take extra diligence on my part
to make sure that my son is not being swayed
into an alternate reality.
I'm also still concerned about his physical safety.
My ex's behavior has changed so drastically
from just a year ago that, you know,
my fear still stands that at any moment,
I think that it could go even further and...
there may even be physical harm that comes to us.
* *
Q and everything surrounding it completely ruined my family.
It killed the man I know.
* *
[dark tense music]
* *
- Why--why do I need to listen to you?
- What I'm being told now is that I could go to prison
for 30 years.
- If it takes me strapping my AR-15
and my battle vest on with all my ammunition
to fight for you and give my life,
I will do so.
They wanna maintain their wealth.
They wanna maintain their riches.
They wanna maintain their power.
It's never easy to watch something you love be destroyed
and know that there's very little
that you can do about it.
- I think this is now, like,
a condition of the world that we live in
that conspiracy theories are rampant.
One of the major dangers
is the silence of people who know better.
- Absolutely.
Nothing is more dangerous to a democracy.
Nothing than conspiracy thinking.