- There are some people
that still do not believe in the New World Order.
A one-world government
controlled by the 13 elite families of the world.
[tense music]
* *
- You can see where that mistrust
of a common narrative comes about.
* *
- The media make, you know,
people that are like myself to be the crazy, lone nut.
I don't care.
- We're all in the same boat of,
where are we gonna feel safe?
Are they gonna take us to the Gulag
because we're unvaccinated vermin?
This is about ushering in a New World Order.
This is about training people to be obedient slaves.
* *
- This is a "wicked, nefarious, globalist, Chinese--
Biden's a sold-out, fraudulent president" situation.
I'm telling you, it's wicked.
- If we activate mandatory vaccines globally,
I imagine these people stand to make
hundreds of billions of dollars that own the vaccines.
- And they'll kill millions,
as they already have with their vaccines.
- If they can sit and watch this and realize
this whole thing has been planned,
it's been planned for a very long time...
* *
- He is taking her into custody.
He's locking her up.
- Trying to hold the fort down here, so...
- Why am I not speaking?
I'm not given a fair chance.
I've been banned from more than all of these people.
- I can't have someone throwing hand grenades
in my professional career.
- Breaking up with someone via text
is just super hurtful.
- [laughs] - Oh, my God.
What-- - You gonna drink that?
- A warning tonight about
a fake coronavirus cure being sold.
- We're gonna be in Miami, Florida,
protesting for Mark Grenon.
- Prosecutors say Mark Grenon, along with sons,
Jonathan, Jordan, and Joseph Grenon,
sold their miracle mineral solution.
- They were ordered to stop selling
their toxic bleach solution.
Saying they would not comply and threatening violence.
- You and I came together
because you reached out to me regarding Mark Grenon.
- These boys, one of them has not seen his newborn son,
has not seen the literal sun,
is drinking tap water contaminated with poisons,
is eating fake, shit food
for a crime that was never committed!
* *
[birds squawking]
[bottle spraying]
- I am here now in Miami, Florida,
and we are protesting for Mark Grenon
and his three sons
that have been incarcerated now for 500-plus days.
[car horn honks]
Maryam, the bee lady, will be speaking.
Where did y'all park?
- Hi, beautiful. I'm on Facebook Live.
Hello. Hi. Mwah.
- I love her energy
I love the fact that she's like me,
that she's always asking questions.
- Can I use this?
- You can use whatever you want to, babe.
- All right. - How does--
Okay, thanks. - Right there.
So right now your sons are where?
- On the seventh floor. - Seven, okay, I see seventh.
- On the left. - On the left, okay.
Look at him. You hear him?
He's banging on the window. - Yeah.
- Yes, we can hear you!
- We can hear the brothers banging on the window!
We see you.
[steady music]
* *
- Oh, is this him?
- Okay, we are gonna speak to the--
- This call is from a federal prison.
- God bless you. - God bless you, brother.
- God bless you. - Love you, Jon.
- Jonathan, thank you. - Love you, brother.
Love you, brother.
Wow.
* *
- We are here standing for the Grenon family.
They dare to use the C word, which is "cure,"
and corona in the same sentence.
They have been imprisoned
and treated like poster children
for others such as myself
and Christopher Key of the Vaccine Police
for daring to question
this shadow government!
Well, guess what!
This is the United States of America,
and the powers that be would like to take this country down!
And they used the coronavirus
as their trojan horse
to usher in
whatever the hell they wanted!
We must stand for liberty,
for freedom!
Okay, I'm now going to introduce
Christopher Key!
- Whoo! - You're too cute.
- Meeting Christopher is just--it felt like,
you know, "Hey, where have you been?"
- I come here today to give away chlorine dioxide
to every single one of you that came here today.
- Christopher is like a kindred spirit,
because I'm a disrupter, too.
- Who does not have chlorine dioxide?
'Cause I want to give it to you right here
in front of this facility.
- He's a brother.
- I'm gonna keep doing this every single day
and twice on Sunday, guys.
- I don't need to be admonished
for being a wild card or having balls,
when we are the true superheroes
that want to make a difference.
- Anybody that wants chlorine dioxide,
I have it, and I'll give it to anybody all day, every day.
If you need chlorine dioxide, call me.
If you guys want to come arrest me, here I am.
[soft music]
* *
[bottle spraying]
We're at a hotel room back in Birmingham, Alabama.
I had to come back in town
because I received a very threatening phone call
from a Fiona O'Leary.
She is the woman that had Mark Grenon
and his three sons put in jail.
This woman directly did this.
- We're joined by Fiona O'Leary from County Cork in Ireland,
who, for years, has been trying to get
the attention of authorities to crack down.
You have been the subject of much harassment online,
haven't you, for taking this stand?
- Mark Grenon especially
has been very aggressive towards me,
calling me a witch, a B-I-T-C-H,
but it doesn't bother me
because I know what I'm doing is so important,
especially for children.
- Fiona O'Leary, I believe,
and it's my opinion...
is one crazy bitch, okay?
Anybody that is exposing
alternatives to Big Pharma
she has went after
and said that we are the problem,
that we are causing death to humanity.
* *
The people I talked to regarding Fiona said,
"Christopher, two things are gonna happen.
"You're either gonna end up dead,
or you're gonna end up in jail."
And I thought about it.
I thought about...
getting rid of all the chlorine dioxide that I had
because I feared for my life.
And that's why today I'm gonna go
to the Vestavia Police Department.
That's why tomorrow I'm gonna go to the FBI,
because I am going to try to get in front of this.
And then I don't have to be scared
and not sleep for days because I think
I'm doing something that's gonna put me in jail,
because what I'm being told now
is that I could go to prison for 30 years.
I really fear for my life right now
because this person, Fiona O'Leary,
I believe, is very dangerous.
[dramatic music]
* *
[cell phone vibrating]
This is Christopher.
Who is this?
- So I've written a lot about how conspiracy theories start,
how they spread, why people believe them,
and so right now I'm sort of preoccupied by how they end.
In my reporting so far, what I'm coming to the view of
is that this is not, like,
a two-year, five-year, ten-year phenomenon.
Like, I genuinely think it's a generations-long...
Like, I think this is a thing that we're in for a while,
and the contours of the specific conspiracy theories,
whether it's Q or anything else, will change,
but I think this is now, like,
a condition of the world that we live in,
that conspiracy theories are rampant.
[dramatic music]
I, for years, have written about conspiracy theories.
It's come up again and again
with ever-intensifying and scary consequences
as conspiracy theories have become more mainstream,
but I've been thinking more recently
about how that ends.
In conditions where conspiracy theories can spread
and be distributed at global scale
with the click of a Facebook button,
how do we weather this as a society
without more people being hurt
or without hurting, you know, democratic society?
- The FBI says many of today's conspiracy theories
are politically motivated
and fueled by the partisan divide in America.
The bureau warns some of those conspiracy theories
will likely motivate some domestic extremists
to commit criminal, sometimes violent activity.
[gunshots]
- Armed militias reportedly on the rise,
driven by xenophobia and racism,
but also by fear of government itself.
- At this point, we're living
under corporate and medical fascism.
This is tyranny.
When do we get to use the guns?
[cheers and applause] No, and I'm not--
That's not a joke. I'm not saying it like that.
I mean, literally, where's the line?
How many elections are they gonna steal
before we kill these people?
- It's like, how do you weather it?
If it's not gonna end for generations,
which is what I believe, then, like,
how do we learn from other periods of history
or other places in the world
to see how America can get through it?
Whatever the answer to that question is,
is the future of America.
* *
[gunshots, glass pinging]
[glass pings]
- Well...
Guess that's all of them. [chuckles]
My name is Eric Matthew Braden
and I'm an ex-military, Army man.
* *
September 11th...
Was a big turning point in my life.
I really wanted to stand up for my country.
I really wanted to join the military...
but it wasn't until years later,
when I ended up getting in trouble.
All right.
This is one of those times in life where, you know,
drugs got involved and they destroyed everything.
I ended up with charges, drug charges,
and, you know, some other charges for weapons as well.
And it was a moment in time
where I was gonna go one way or the other,
and, luckily, I was assisted in many ways by Uncle Sam,
you know, to be able to join into the military.
* *
It took me getting in trouble
to actually go to do the right thing,
and I ended up going to serve my country proudly.
But, unfortunately, when I showed up
to my Airborne training, we got to the point
where we're doing zipline training...
and this guy just barreled right into my back
with his helmet full blast, and that was the end of it.
I knew. I knew my back was broke.
I knew it was done.
[groans]
* *
- Ready to feed these animals?
- Yeah, let's go feed the cows.
[groans] - [chuckles]
- When I got out of the military,
I was, you know, a complete mess.
- Come here. [clicks tongue]
Come here, little one.
- I was just struggling to try
to get my basic motor skills back
with the feeling of, you know, failing at defending my country
the way I wanted to so badly.
* *
Through the hard time of the training
and the injuries that I had gone through,
I ended up with a pretty severe opiate addiction.
This right here-- this is my buddy, though.
Yeah, that's my buddy.
My son was born
two weeks prior to my exit from the Army,
and, you know, through that addiction,
that made me someone that my son didn't need to be around.
And my ex-wife absolutely did not want me
in my son's life at all.
* *
Yeah, it's pretty--
it's a pretty dark time in the world right now.
Pretty sad, too.
[bees buzzing]
I think I started really questioning government...
With the Iraq and Afghanistan war.
- There was a deafening drumbeat in the wake of 9/11,
as President Bush, Vice President Cheney,
and other top officials warned that Iraq had amassed
a stockpile of illegal weapons
and began building a case for war.
- When I went into basic training,
I thought we were gonna be heading off to war to...
you know, actually go
and attack the people that attacked us.
- After all this time,
questions still remain as to why the United States
launched the war in the first place.
- I started hearing the narrative
of weapons of mass destruction.
- On February 5, 2003, Powell stated
with no qualifications that Saddam Hussein
had mobile, biological weapons.
- Upon communicating with the drill sergeant
after they asked us, you know,
why did we join up and what are we doing there,
they basically explained to us
that it was all a lie.
- The American public was led to believe
that Saddam Hussein had large stockpiles
of weapons of mass destruction
and was prepared to use them,
which famously turned out not to be the case.
- It was just an amazing, you know, realization that...
You know, that they fooled--
they fooled the entire country.
- If you think about the public's lack of trust
for government right now, that's one of the reasons.
That now has undermined trust in government.
- It was basically for money.
The war machine gets paid constantly.
Every time a war is created, you know, both sides,
left and right, they both get paid.
And, you know, a lot of that was George Bush Jr.
They worship money. They worship greed.
And they sacrifice the blood of their own to get it.
I knew that I had a new fight,
and I realized that I had a fight,
but it wasn't gonna be on a battlefield.
It was gonna be against the people that were,
you know, actually in authority.
Who loves freedom? [crowd cheering]
I said, who loves freedom? [cheering continues]
Who will defend freedom? [cheering continues]
Who will fight for freedom? [cheering continues]
Amen. - Amen.
- My name is General E
from SPC, Southern Patriot Council.
SPC is a group of people, civilian-based,
that will be the last line of defense
against any tyranny.
* *
We are freedom fighters. We stand for the truth.
We stand for honor, integrity, and mutual respect.
We will fight,
and we are finding out...
who is the enemy of America.
[crowd cheering] - Yeah.
- Well, the most recent one now
that I'm going into is the border.
- Over the last year, Border Patrol agents
have seen record numbers of migrants crossing into the U.S.
along the southwest border.
- Our front door is being kicked in.
- In the last three months of 2021,
Border Patrol agents came across
nearly half a million migrants.
That's double the encounters from the same time in 2020.
- What that comes down to is, where's it coming from?
Why is it coming from that direction?
- Nothing about it is an accident.
Obviously it's intentional. Joe Biden did it on purpose,
but why?
- Who's the puppet master behind all this?
There's got to be something behind it, right?
- To change the racial mix of the country,
that's the reason.
To reduce the political power of people
whose ancestors lived here and dramatically increase
the proportion of Americans
newly arrived from the Third World.
- They're bringing in more people
to affect a voting pattern.
- In political terms,
this policy is called the Great Replacement.
The replacement of legacy Americans
with more obedient people from faraway countries.
- They're replacing a level, a class.
- They will come for you and "replace you."
This is an elaborate conspiracy theory
that is gaining traction right now on the American right.
It's a white supremist claim,
and it is that non-white immigrants
will replace the electorate,
the presumably more white electorate.
- The strings are being pulled by a puppet master,
and because that puppet master wants this to happen,
he's pulling the strings on both sides--
over the border and in the border.
It's a destruction of our way of life in America.
It's an attack on our ways.
- Let me introduce myself. My name is Eric Matthew Braden.
I am running for governor of Texas, guys.
That is not a joke.
I've seen this state...
go from the Texas I once knew
into something that I can't even identify anymore.
I will get this sinking ship,
and I will turn it into a sovereign nation
with a border that is impenetrable.
Money.
There's these individuals that are...
pretty much so powerful because of their money.
Their influence is so heavy.
And these people are the Bilderbergs,
the Rothschilds, the Gates, you know, the Soroses,
you know, the Clintons, the--
you know, all these-- there's so many of them.
There's a big club, and none of us are in it.
You understand that?
They are the 1%, rich elite.
They are the Skull and Bones.
They are Ivy League college people
that pull all the strings in this country.
That money can enable them to pull strings
and make anything happen anywhere, at any time.
Anytime they want to do anything, they can do it.
All these people that control society--
their born, bred, and put through a process
to tell you what to do and when to do it.
If we don't do what they say,
you're in trouble 'cause they'll come after you.
They will come after you with that evil,
and they will take you out.
They want to maintain their wealth.
They want to maintain their riches.
They want to maintain their power.
Eventually they meet a man like me that's un-fallible
and unpurchasable, and it's not gonna happen,
you know, so...
You know, I would be the enemy.
If it takes me strapping my AR-15 and my battle vest on
with all my ammunition to fight for you
and give my life, I will do so.
And there isn't a damn white-collar governor out there
that would do that, but I will.
[cheers and applause]
- This is Christopher.
Who is this?
I am always fabulous.
How can I help you, Fiona?
No, please, I'm not real smart,
so I can't read between the lines, so...
Why do I need to listen to you?
I don't get rid of anything, okay?
Because I do not live in fear, Fiona.
I am doing everything lawfully.
I'm doing everything legally,
and you can't stand that. - No, you're not. You're not.
- And you're an evil, evil person, Fiona.
And it's very sad that what's--
You know, I pray for you, Fiona.
I will do everything I can
to expose the tyranny that you are doing
to those that are doing God's work,
helping God's people, and you are a fraud, Fiona.
What you're doing right now, Fiona,
is you are threatening me.
This is fear and intimidation.
I feel threatened, and I am headed to the police.
You've got less than 60 seconds, Fiona.
60 seconds, anything else?
- Okay, guys, we are here
at the Vestavia Hills Police Department.
I am very fearful for my life now.
I have given away chlorine dioxide,
so I'm here today at the Vestavia Police Department
to find out is it illegal to give it away.
Okay, my name is Christopher Key.
I am what's considered the Vaccine Police,
and I feel threatened for my safety
because of a woman named Fiona O'Leary.
She was responsible
for Mark Grenon and his three sons being in prison.
There's a substance called chlorine dioxide.
I do not sell chlorine dioxide, nor shall I ever,
but I have given it away.
And if that's wrong, I need somebody to tell me,
because I will stop.
And I wanted to get on the record
that this woman is calling me, harassing me.
I'm gonna go down to the FBI on Monday--
they're closed today-- to report it to them.
I have no home.
Again--
I live out of hotel rooms.
Why do you need my physical
driver's license to fill it out?
So you're saying you're not gonna fill out anything
unless I bring--
Yes, sir.
I'm not refusing, I just--
I'm saying I physically don't have it with me, okay?
I probably should just go to the sheriff's,
'cause, again, I think it'd be best
for me to just go to the sheriff's office.
I haven't broken any law, and I do have a driver's license,
but I just don't have to show it to you.
- I'll explain it to you again.
- But, again, I do have one in my possession, okay?
Again, I don't--I know.
And, again, I don't have to show you
my driver's license, okay?
I didn't mean to cause any trouble.
I was just trying to get something on the record.
Thank you, sir.
* *
I actually really did forget my driver's license
and didn't have it with me.
They were just trying to be difficult.
When we first started doing this,
the chances of me going to jail,
I thought, were next to nothing.
And now, with this Fiona crazy lady,
who knows?
- So the piece that I'm working on
is about moments when conspiracism flourish,
and one driving question for me has been,
how do we sort of break the fever?
And so I'm really curious to hear from you
about the parallels you see right now.
- The most important and famous conspiracy theory
of the 20th century was the Nazis' argument
that the Jews started World War II.
This 600,000 people in a society,
which I think now is maybe 60 million or 70 million,
that these 600,000 people ruled the country.
They had wrecked the film industry.
They controlled the newspapers.
They controlled the banks, all of which was lies.
But the appeal of that conspiracy theory
was, in a time of unemployment,
political confusion,
it explained things.
And the explanation
went along with a face and a person.
It's the Jews, and we can see what they look like,
and they're the cause of it.
- There's a villain to point to.
- There's a villain. There's a villain.
And therefore, the German government
was going to retaliate against the Jews
and exterminate them.
Because if you believe in a conspiracy theory,
then you believe that the people
who are running the conspiracy are evil
and are the cause of enormous harm.
And what do such people deserve?
They deserve to be killed.
So, when people play around
with these ridiculous conspiracy theories--
QAnon or whatever it is--
the result of it has been, in the past,
violence.
- And today, too. - And today.
- And just for a moment, to talk about anti-Semitism,
why is anti-Semitism always present in these moments
where democracy is threatened?
- It's embedded in our culture.
The notion that there's a small group of people, these Jews--
they killed Jesus, they caused the Black Plague,
they caused World War I, World War II,
French Revolution, communism, capitalism.
And that habit of thinking that small groups of people
are responsible for large events
and that they are evil
and therefore you need to kill them
because they've done all these horrible things,
that's an element of Western culture.
- When you look at other moments
of high levels of conspiracism,
what has worked before to...
tamp it down again?
- When political leaders, religious leaders,
or corporate leaders, influential people
say that this is rubbish.
This is unacceptable.
It's immoral. This is false, totally unacceptable.
And this message needs to come from both political parties,
and it's not, because the incentives
are working in the opposite direction.
That is, there are voters who will vote for people
who say the election was stolen.
- A lot of them. - A lot of them.
And if you can win elections by telling a lie
that's an incentive to keep lying.
Nothing else is gonna change their mind
or change the mind of the cynics
who only care about political power
and realize that going down this path
is a recipe for losing elections.
- It does seem to me that a sort of theme
that's emerging here is one of the major dangers
is the silence of people who know better.
- Absolutely.
Nothing is more dangerous to a democracy,
nothing, than conspiracy thinking.
They lead to violence.
[indistinct chatter]
- I'm running for governor of Texas.
- Are you really? - Yeah.
My name's General E, Eric Braden.
[dramatic music]
* *
[indistinct chatter]
My name is General E, Eric Braden.
I'm running for governor of Texas.
I can't pull it up right now 'cause I don't have signal,
but I'd show you some of the marches
where I've got my battle gear on, my AR-15,
and I'm marching against these motherfuckers.
- Hell, yeah. - So I'm running for governor,
but I'm also a warrior.
Running on a secession platform,
so we can get the hell out of this shit.
[chuckles]
That's what I'm doing.
Yeah, I need a bunch of signatures
before the 9th of December to get in the game.
I'm working on that right now.
Basically, I'm the only guy
that's actually running on a secession platform in Texas.
So I'm the only man that's gonna get us out.
One, two, three, secession.
[indistinct chatter]
- Hell, yeah.
- Eric Braden, General E. Eric Braden.
Yes, sir.
Yep, governor of Texas, my friend.
Yep, running on a secession platform.
I'm getting Texas out of the Union.
We're leaving.
Huh?
Are you from Texas?
Born and raised here in--
All right.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's a fun project-- cute, fun.
It's not at all?
What was settled in 1860? - Your arg--
- Okay. - [chuckles]
- Oh, boy.
Excuse me.
- Good luck to you, sir.
[country music playing, indistinct chatter]
- Back in the day, yeah, we'd whip the shit out of him,
but we're not gonna do that tonight.
Nah, we ain't gonna do it.
No, he's good. We're gonna give him a pass.
- I hope you win, man. - Yeah?
- Yeah, man. - We're right behind you.
- All for you, man. Good luck.
- Wish me luck. God bless, guys.
- Yep. - Take care.
[dramatic music]
- No, I didn't attempt to get any signatures.
You know, eventually we're going to end up
getting those signatures, or we're not going to.
So, you know, there's got to be a time where I have
to put this down to actually get serious about this.
I have to get 5,000 signatures,
and I have no idea how many I actually have right now.
I have 19 days
to get in this race or go to the beach.
* *
- Okay, what I want y'all to listen to
is the phone call
that I had with Mary--
she called herself-- which is Fiona.
So that's a lie.
You know, she's lying about her name, okay?
So that's fraudulent, okay?
She lives in Ireland, okay?
We have verification that she lives in Ireland.
I said, "If they can make a donation, great.
"If they can't, it doesn't matter.
"We will send it anywhere around the world
if somebody needs it."
Is that unlawful? Is that illegal?
I don't think so.
She's trying to get me to say, you know,
"We have to have a $20 donation.
"we have to have a $50 donation.
We have to"--
Never did I say that.
Never did I say that, not one single time.
Just a grandmother.
Okay, so she tries to entrap these people,
and when she gets enough evidence,
she takes it to, you know, the FDA
and then gets the local police to go in
and, you know, arrest those people.
[line trilling]
Hey, man.
Okay, I think I've come to the conclusion
I'm not gonna physically go to the FBI
'cause I don't want to walk on to their jurisdiction.
But I'm considering making a phone call to them
to get something on the record.
Is that a good idea, a bad idea?
What are your thoughts?
Again, you know, I don't know.
Nope. Never will I.
Okay, so what are your thoughts on what I should do?
Okay, well, think about it and let me know.
All right, bye. - Yeah, bye.
[somber music]
* *
[leaf blower whirring loudly]
* *
- Hey, brother.
Okay.
We don't.
Yeah, we don't have anything
as far as directions whatsoever on the bottles.
Right. So it's in my best interest
not to go down to the sheriff's office?
So just leave it alone?
All right, look, I just needed to know
if I needed to go down there or not.
So you're telling me no, so we're done.
Let me go finish dealing with a bunch of other stuff,
and then I'll see you tomorrow.
All right, love you, brother. Bye.
- Bye.
- I thought I did everything aboveboard,
but now my team is saying there's a couple things
that we have that need to be cleaned up,
and that's what I'm trying to do.
Next time y'all see me, I may be in jail...
[chuckles]
Or maybe dead.
Anything's possible.
When you're exposing
what I believe I'm exposing...
I'm going after the head of the snake.
* *
[dramatic music]
- Going into this story, my hope was, like,
okay, surely there's a historic framework
for how mass delusions end.
Let's just find that and follow it...
but it's not that simple.
And this has been the challenge
in reporting this story all along,
is I keep looking for...
a clear sense of what can be done
to mitigate the harm that conspiracism causes
before it spills over into more violence,
and I'm not finding examples.
And part of this is you can't prove a negative, right?
You can't learn from something that never happened
'cause you don't know what you avoided, in a way.
But I still really wish there were a clearer sense of,
okay, this works.
But especially right now,
we shouldn't be defeatist about it.
Any individual that cares about living
in a functioning democracy has a role to play
in making sure that we protect it.
* *
- Got any brothers and sisters on channel right now?
All right, well, I'm sitting here on the beach right now.
Just here with my beautiful wife, my dog,
and enjoying a little time here, doing a little R&R.
Today was the last day to get the 5,000 signatures
to run for governor of Texas.
To be able to get into the actual race,
you either have to have those signatures,
or you have to have the money
to actually pay for the filing fees.
So I don't have the money for the filing fees,
and I don't the signatures to join the race.
So, you know, stay tuned, and God bless all y'all.
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- It's unfortunate that I didn't get the signatures.
You know, I had no illusion that I was gonna win
the election for governor of Texas.
You know, I didn't think that I was gonna be--
gonna be winning that.
What I really wanted to do was make a statement.
Basically, what these elitists think
is that they are better than us.
They believe that they're smarter than us
and their lives are more valuable than us.
They manipulate, and they basically connive
their way into everything that they do.
If I had the chance to say anything
to these people that have ruined this country
and attacked it,
attacked its liberty and its freedoms...
if I had one thing to say, it's very short and very sweet.
I'm coming.
Ain't nothing gonna stop me.
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- I want to change the world.
- If you have someone out there that's watching
that has a loved one that's just kind of flirting with Q...
hey, heads up.
It's not something they just flirt with.
[chuckles] Catch it early if you can.
Take it seriously.
- I feel I have a lot of hope now.
[laughs]
I guess maybe I formulate it myself.
I do have a daughter.
There is hope that me and her will be reunited.
I believe that.
- I have learned to...
put my head down and to shut my mouth
because I'm not someone that needs training to speak up.
So I've taken this as a humbling experience.
It's definitely-- I've cultivated more gratitude,
like thank you, God,
for this unmasked lunch I'm having or walk.
To not take anything for granted,
but it's my job to speak up
and to speak out
against this insanity
that's tearing human beings apart.
And the ultimate game is divide and conquer.
- So let me just be honest with you.
I think that I'm gonna get killed.
I've outed a lot of powerful people,
organizations that are currently in control
of the United States, it appears.
And I believe that once they've consolidated enough power
and put in enough censorship
that I'm going to have an accident,
and you'll hear about my death,
and it'll be ruled either a suicide or an accident
or homicide by somebody else.
That's my fate.
- I have nothing to hide.
They can have whatever information they want.
I never had any plans.
There was never no insurrection.
I was preaching the Bible, for goodness' sake, you know,
at the Capitol, of all places.
And if they want a deposition, if they want my testimony,
I'll gladly give it to them.
At this point, I think you know my nature
and my character and my pushback.
At this point, I would love nothing more
than to sit in that chamber
and let them know what I really think about whole situation.
Call out the lies.
I'm gonna call out the deception.
I'm gonna call it what it is. I don't need their approval.
I don't need a bigger church. I don't need money.
I don't care.
- There really is just this divide,
and the people over here don't get what the people...
They don't see it. They don't want to see it.
I don't know.
- We really thought that...
we had accomplished something on January 6th,
that we were...
voicing our First Amendment rights to freedom of speech,
to freedom of religion,
to freedom to assemble,
and the freedom to petition,
but they turned us into terrorists,
which we are not.
We're just patriots.
We just don't want to lose our liberty...
and our pursuit of happiness.
And since my arrest, I haven't had much life,
liberty, or pursuit of happiness.
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