1 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:15,800 WOMAN: Those who knew her say Makia Coney 2 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:19,166 had an infectious smile and a huge heart. 3 00:00:19,166 --> 00:00:22,634 This is the area where the body was located on Wednesday night. 4 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:25,467 MAN: I cannot emphasize enough -- anyone who would 5 00:00:25,533 --> 00:00:26,900 commit such a crime 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 across from a police substation 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,000 with a couple hundred police cars... 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,734 with a couple hundred police cars... 9 00:00:33,166 --> 00:00:35,900 I am very, very concerned. 10 00:00:51,266 --> 00:00:53,634 MAN: The thing inside of me, it's like... 11 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:56,734 the appetite -- it's like a wolf that's... 12 00:00:58,066 --> 00:01:00,000 feeling the hunger. 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,634 feeling the hunger. 14 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,166 WOMAN: Parents at University Christian School 15 00:01:16,166 --> 00:01:19,166 can't imagine who could be responsible for 16 00:01:19,166 --> 00:01:22,634 the brutal murder of 17-year-old Makia Coney. 17 00:01:36,367 --> 00:01:38,066 WOMAN: Detectives spent much of the day 18 00:01:38,066 --> 00:01:40,467 here talking with students and teachers. 19 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:42,367 You can see their crime scene van, 20 00:01:42,433 --> 00:01:45,367 and they looked at every truck in the parking lot. 21 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:28,166 Here we are in a murder investigation of someone 22 00:02:28,166 --> 00:02:29,367 who Charles Southern had 23 00:02:29,367 --> 00:02:30,000 an on-and-off-again relationship with, and he has 24 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,867 an on-and-off-again relationship with, and he has 25 00:02:31,867 --> 00:02:34,533 virtually no emotional reaction to it. 26 00:02:34,634 --> 00:02:36,600 It certainly would raise questions of 27 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,734 how could somebody be so calm? 28 00:03:22,166 --> 00:03:23,800 Southern is giving a timeline 29 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:26,700 and a story that doesn't make a lot of sense. 30 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:29,967 He's essentially throwing his friend Connor under the bus. 31 00:03:29,967 --> 00:03:30,000 But he doesn't spend much time thinking about 32 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,367 But he doesn't spend much time thinking about 33 00:03:32,367 --> 00:03:35,467 is how those two realities can't coexist. 34 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:37,967 FOX: Even though police are suspicious, 35 00:03:37,967 --> 00:03:40,533 because those contradictory statements that are being made, 36 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:43,166 it's not enough for them to make an arrest. 37 00:03:43,166 --> 00:03:46,166 It's just enough for them to keep watching him and try to 38 00:03:46,166 --> 00:03:49,266 find out if there's any validity behind what he's saying. 39 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,634 PRIDGEN: Mm-hmm. 40 00:04:42,266 --> 00:04:44,467 He's distancing himself from the crime. 41 00:04:44,467 --> 00:04:46,634 He's distancing himself from the victim. 42 00:04:46,634 --> 00:04:51,166 Detectives are using their own experience and common sense to 43 00:04:51,233 --> 00:04:54,367 realize that either one or both of these suspects, 44 00:04:54,367 --> 00:04:56,367 Southern, Pridgen, maybe both, 45 00:04:56,367 --> 00:04:58,600 are somehow either involved in 46 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,000 the crime or they know more than they're letting on. 47 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,700 the crime or they know more than they're letting on. 48 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:04,533 And so now they're challenging him, and Pridgen's got some 49 00:05:04,634 --> 00:05:07,800 decisions to make about how far he goes with these lies. 50 00:06:10,166 --> 00:06:11,467 SAHNI: Teenagers sometimes lie. 51 00:06:11,467 --> 00:06:13,467 Their impulse control is poor. 52 00:06:13,467 --> 00:06:15,500 But what we also see in psychopathic 53 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:18,266 individuals is this pattern of pathological lying. 54 00:06:18,266 --> 00:06:21,734 There's a compulsive need to lie, filling in the blanks. 55 00:06:21,734 --> 00:06:24,100 It's clear that Makia was shot twice. 56 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:28,634 She was shot at close range by highly destructive bullets. 57 00:06:28,734 --> 00:06:30,000 The only thing Pridgen comes up with is, 58 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,634 The only thing Pridgen comes up with is, 59 00:06:30,734 --> 00:06:32,600 "I only got about four hours of sleep." 60 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,533 Most of us, if we were in this situation 61 00:06:34,533 --> 00:06:36,367 and witnessed something that horrific, 62 00:06:36,433 --> 00:06:37,533 might not have slept at all. 63 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,634 [dial tone] 64 00:06:56,266 --> 00:06:57,734 SOUTHERN: Um... 65 00:07:41,734 --> 00:07:44,634 SAHNI: The two of them are so rapidly and desperately 66 00:07:44,634 --> 00:07:48,066 and impulsively trying to explain away their guilt 67 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:49,634 that they don't really think about 68 00:07:49,634 --> 00:07:51,367 the consequences of what they're saying, that they're 69 00:07:51,367 --> 00:07:52,867 going to now have to address 70 00:07:52,867 --> 00:07:55,266 the fact that they were each there. 71 00:08:24,867 --> 00:08:25,900 Um... 72 00:08:35,634 --> 00:08:36,867 Yeah. 73 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:41,533 For no reason. 74 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:05,533 The thing that he was most upset about wasn't that they 75 00:09:05,533 --> 00:09:05,550 were accusing him of murder, 76 00:09:05,550 --> 00:09:07,166 were accusing him of murder, 77 00:09:07,233 --> 00:09:09,166 wasn't the fact that he would be going to prison for the rest 78 00:09:09,166 --> 00:09:11,367 of his life, it's that the detective, 79 00:09:11,367 --> 00:09:14,734 probably accurately, referred to him as a sociopath. 80 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,634 A lot of people will use psychopath and sociopath 81 00:09:17,634 --> 00:09:20,433 interchangeably -- impugning his honor 82 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,433 is almost the thing that got him most upset. 83 00:10:08,367 --> 00:10:10,900 So the story changes again when the two defendants are in 84 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:14,166 the room together, and you almost get the sense 85 00:10:14,166 --> 00:10:17,634 that they're trying to watch each other and see what 86 00:10:17,734 --> 00:10:20,533 they should be saying and take cues from one another, 87 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,066 but they really fail at that. 88 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:23,867 They can't quite figure out what 89 00:10:23,867 --> 00:10:26,333 to say after the one just spoke. 90 00:10:26,367 --> 00:10:28,367 And in the end, you know, 91 00:10:28,367 --> 00:10:30,533 they're still trying to point fingers at the other one. 92 00:10:30,533 --> 00:10:32,634 But there are some slippages -- for instance, 93 00:10:32,634 --> 00:10:35,550 whenever he stated that he didn't shoot her first. 94 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:36,734 whenever he stated that he didn't shoot her first. 95 00:10:37,634 --> 00:10:40,634 So acknowledging, in fact, that somebody shot her, 96 00:10:40,634 --> 00:10:42,266 obviously, a second time. 97 00:10:58,634 --> 00:10:59,867 DET: The second shot killed her. 98 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:42,734 DET: Mm-hmm. 99 00:12:17,166 --> 00:12:20,967 To the fact that Southern is waving around a loaded firearm, 100 00:12:20,967 --> 00:12:24,350 per his account here, and pointing it at a victim, 101 00:12:24,350 --> 00:12:25,800 per his account here, and pointing it at a victim, 102 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:29,734 a girl that he dated on and off, just shows how he has 103 00:12:29,734 --> 00:12:33,734 no value in human life, and it's rather cold and callous. 104 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,467 It's also very telling, because Pridgen then, immediately 105 00:12:37,467 --> 00:12:40,467 after she's shot, decides to just shoot her again. 106 00:12:41,367 --> 00:12:44,467 Most individuals would check to see if the person would 107 00:12:44,467 --> 00:12:46,634 still be alive, especially if they thought 108 00:12:46,734 --> 00:12:48,166 it was an accidental shooting. 109 00:12:48,166 --> 00:12:52,066 Most individuals wouldn't just shoot the person again, 110 00:12:52,066 --> 00:12:54,350 and the way he described it was with zero remorse. 111 00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:56,900 and the way he described it was with zero remorse. 112 00:13:26,734 --> 00:13:28,734 TUSSEY: If these statements are accurate, 113 00:13:28,734 --> 00:13:31,800 and that was really Southern's impetus for choosing her, 114 00:13:31,900 --> 00:13:35,066 it makes it clear that he was really objectifying her, 115 00:13:35,066 --> 00:13:38,467 that she was really an object for him upon -- 116 00:13:38,467 --> 00:13:39,467 you know, for him to use 117 00:13:39,467 --> 00:13:42,367 and do what he wanted to when he wanted to. 118 00:13:42,367 --> 00:13:46,800 But he expected to be free to date whoever he wanted to. 119 00:13:47,867 --> 00:13:49,734 FOX: People with psychopathic traits tend to 120 00:13:49,734 --> 00:13:52,734 be more possessive and jealous than others. 121 00:13:52,734 --> 00:13:54,350 One, because they have this 122 00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:55,066 One, because they have this 123 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:57,500 insatiable need for power and control. 124 00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:00,800 The motive for Southern is starting to shape up here where 125 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,734 we understand this is about jealousy and power 126 00:14:03,734 --> 00:14:05,166 and control over Makia. 127 00:14:05,166 --> 00:14:08,066 He has apparently lost this, and that makes him angry. 128 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:11,634 But why Pridgen would cooperate and go along with this? 129 00:14:11,734 --> 00:14:13,233 That's still unclear. 130 00:14:25,266 --> 00:14:27,000 DET: So just -- just straight talk. 131 00:14:49,367 --> 00:14:52,266 Both of them had expressed this desire to 132 00:14:52,333 --> 00:14:54,266 kill someone to see what it was like. 133 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,266 It's possible, given their shared interest 134 00:14:58,266 --> 00:15:00,967 in killing someone that there was really 135 00:15:00,967 --> 00:15:02,734 a synergy between the two of them, 136 00:15:02,734 --> 00:15:05,800 and they just fed off of one another. 137 00:15:34,266 --> 00:15:35,634 DET: Mm-hmm. 138 00:16:33,867 --> 00:16:37,266 FOX: He's trying to still downplay his culpability 139 00:16:37,266 --> 00:16:38,900 while letting his true colors show through. 140 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:41,367 He's admitting that he's just a natural liar. 141 00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:41,690 It's what he does over and over. 142 00:16:41,690 --> 00:16:43,066 It's what he does over and over. 143 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,690 Criminal versatility, which means committing multiple 144 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:41,967 Criminal versatility, which means committing multiple 145 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,266 different types of crime and having a juvenile delinquency, 146 00:17:45,266 --> 00:17:48,333 which means committing crimes as a young person under the age 147 00:17:48,367 --> 00:17:52,533 of 18, both are red flags when it comes to psychopathy. 148 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,266 Southern was asked to leave Missouri after he got in trouble 149 00:17:57,266 --> 00:17:58,533 with the law. 150 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,233 He relocated to Florida with extended relatives. 151 00:18:02,367 --> 00:18:05,467 Once he came to Florida, he ended up in a good crowd. 152 00:18:05,467 --> 00:18:06,634 He was on the football team. 153 00:18:06,734 --> 00:18:08,533 He was doing well at this private school. 154 00:18:08,533 --> 00:18:10,100 He had good family support. 155 00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:11,690 But one of the things that we oftentime find with 156 00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:12,734 But one of the things that we oftentime find with 157 00:18:12,734 --> 00:18:17,166 psychopathic individuals is that they crave a high. 158 00:18:17,166 --> 00:18:20,533 They crave stimulation, they get bored very easily. 159 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,467 What Southern missed was that thrill-seeking 160 00:18:23,467 --> 00:18:26,533 sensation that oftentimes psychopathic individuals get. 161 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:31,467 And so it was only a matter of time before he was going to 162 00:18:31,467 --> 00:18:33,066 return to his criminal activity, 163 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:35,266 but he had already done robbing. 164 00:18:35,266 --> 00:18:36,800 He needed something more, 165 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:40,166 and killing was the next thing on the list. 166 00:19:43,533 --> 00:19:46,533 So Southern felt that his ego was challenged, 167 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,266 his masculinity was challenged, and so to preserve his own ego, 168 00:19:50,266 --> 00:19:53,433 he uses that as justification for why he shot her, 169 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:55,533 like he had to rise up to the occasion to 170 00:19:55,533 --> 00:19:58,100 prove how manly he was. 171 00:19:58,100 --> 00:20:00,634 Shooting her simply because he didn't 172 00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:03,533 want to be teased or his masculinity to be threatened 173 00:20:03,533 --> 00:20:06,467 speaks to his callousness 174 00:20:06,467 --> 00:20:09,467 and his narcissism.