[dramatic music playing]
[man] Being inside of me, it's like...
The appetite, it's like a wolf that's...
feeling...
the hunger.
[reporter] We have a local breaking news alert right now,
in Putnam County, where two boys
were found dead in a home.
12-year-old Robert Baker
and 14-year-old Tayten Baker were murdered here.
Now deputies are trying to figure out
what happened leading up to their deaths.
[Bardey] The brutal nature of the crime and the extent of overkill
speaks to something very personal.
It's not just... If this were a home invasion
and the kids were in the way,
the intruder would have done the minimum to get the kids out of the way.
So once they were out of the way,
there's no reason to go any further.
The degree of overkill here...
It speaks to the fact that the killer knew his victims
and was driven by some sort of intense rage.
[sobbing]
At this point in the investigation,
detectives are bringing in the immediate family members.
Most of the family's co-operating.
They're willingly talking to the authorities.
They're sharing whatever information they know.
What we notice is that Cindy is highly emotional.
She's having a hard time digesting what's happened.
Mark's not showing a whole lot of affect or emotion.
But he's trying to comfort his girlfriend.
He's trying to respond to the situation
based on what he thinks is required of him.
[Dr. Vienna] Asking for a lawyer early in an investigation
could be a sign of defensiveness.
It could be a sign that he did something wrong
and he doesn't know how to get out of it.
I think the key feature here
is his lack of emotional attachment to the children.
You would I think that if these were your children
or your girlfriend's children
or some children in your family,
that you would do anything it takes to help solve their crime.
You would come forth and give a DNA test,
take a lie detector test.
So if someone like Mark Wilson isn't doing that,
investigators might assume that he has something to hide.
[Dr. Sahni] It's not uncommon for family members
of somebody who's psychopathic or people close to them
to sometimes see emotions and reactions that aren't actually there.
So it's hard to know if Wilson's mom
actually saw tears
and full, genuine emotion from her son.
Or, more likely, if Wilson did shed any tears
or his eyes became glassy and watery,
it was either an attempt
to confuse his mother and manipulate her.
Or it may have been his own regret and sadness
for the fact that he's now been found out.
[Dr. Vienna] So he's somewhat criminally sophisticated at this point.
Been to prison for almost five years,
engaging in drug offenses.
His violent behavior is slowly escalating.
And he doesn't really have that many skills
to navigate life successfully.
So he's living this sort of parasitic lifestyle off of others.
And he's really giving nothing in return.
Just taking from others.
Wilson at different times tries to come up with different excuses
to shift the blame away from himself.
He blames his girlfriend.
He blames the children.
He never really comes up and acknowledges and takes responsibility,
and that denotes a certain degree of callousness.
It denotes a certain degree of lack of empathy.
I mean, at the very least, now that he's been caught
to show some degree of regret and remorse
for having killed these children.
But yet, even at the end of this interview, he still does not.
[siren wailing]
[Dr. Vienna] What's transpiring here
is he's posting himself up
to be this, sort of, big brother,
this hero, this very, you know,
caring and engaging individual.
It's an a stark contrast to what we know about him.
He's someone that uses people,
engages in criminal activity to get what he wants.
He's just making himself out to be someone
who he's not, almost trying to control
the narrative of the situation.
That he's a good guy, he's the innocent one.
He's the role model
to Robert and Tayten.
[Dr. Sahni] One of the other theories during this investigation
was that his motivation to kill the boys
may have had to do with that family reporting him to CPS.
And he's worried that his young daughter
would be taken away because of his drug use.
There's zero indication
that either of the two victims
were engaged in anything inappropriate,
sexually with either Wilson's young daughter,
or his significant other.
This is somebody who desperately is grasping at straws.
Wilson's willing to throw anyone and everyone under the bus
in this interview, just to walk out the door
because he didn't do it, or he did it because he had to.
It really shows us that he acted on vulnerable individuals
who weren't able to fight back,
didn't have a really a chance to escape.
He waited until they were completely knocked out, to hurt them.
It's a common trait for psychopaths
to prey upon those weaker than themselves
or those that are vulnerable,
that aren't able to fight back,
so they can then get what they want out of the situation,
Wilson is using words that he believes he should be using.
Life has taught him that he should model this behavior,
but because there's no depth to it, there's no sincerity to it.
And he doesn't really have a lot of understanding
of what emotions are or attachment is.
It's just words.
It's an afterthought to say, "I'm sorry."
It's an afterthought to say this was a big mistake.
It wasn't a "Big mistake."
Mistakes are, "I accidentally forgot to pay the bills."
Mistakes are...
"I left something in the car that should have been put in the refrigerator."
"I left the milk out."
Big mistakes are not brutally murdering two children
that are members of your family.
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Just because somebody is a member of your family
doesn't mean that you're automatically safe.
[Lawyer] Are you a family annihilator?
You mean, like, did I shoot my wife and my son?
[Woman] Sometimes that risk lies within.
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