1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,533 [dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:42,567 We're hearing from the person who came to the aid of a Caledonia man 3 00:00:42,567 --> 00:00:45,033 severely beaten in a road rage incident. 4 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:47,100 [man] I heard a loud noise. 5 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:49,467 It sounded like hitting the truck maybe. 6 00:00:49,467 --> 00:00:51,967 But when I got to the vehicle and seen the gentleman, 7 00:00:51,967 --> 00:00:54,166 I noticed there was no damage to the truck. 8 00:00:54,166 --> 00:00:58,166 So it must have been them repeatedly beating the gentleman. 9 00:00:58,166 --> 00:01:00,867 For people to be that angry, and it's just ridiculous. 10 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,233 [intense music playing] 11 00:01:15,567 --> 00:01:17,834 [man 1] The thing inside of me is like... 12 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:22,166 [man 2] The appetite, it's like a wolf that's... 13 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,467 feeling... 14 00:01:25,166 --> 00:01:27,433 the hunger. 15 00:01:32,166 --> 00:01:34,266 [reporter] The victim, 64-year-old William McFarlan, 16 00:01:34,266 --> 00:01:36,300 is fighting for his life in a hospital tonight. 17 00:01:36,300 --> 00:01:39,934 The suspect in the case, 18-year-old Christian Hillman from Ada. 18 00:01:46,266 --> 00:01:48,634 [intense music playing] 19 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,834 [intense music playing] 20 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:56,800 [Dr. Charles] So what's really noteworthy 21 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,000 about his behavior is it's very unlikely 22 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,200 what we would expect in a normal teenager 23 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,667 who's gone in for questioning with the police 24 00:03:03,667 --> 00:03:05,700 in that circumstance. 25 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:09,767 We might expect someone to look a little apprehensive, a little nervous. 26 00:03:09,767 --> 00:03:11,667 But he appears relatively calm. 27 00:03:11,667 --> 00:03:13,900 He says, "For sure I know why I'm here". 28 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:16,100 And then he moves into a discussion, 29 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:20,567 almost as if bragging about the different kinds of motorcycles that he has. 30 00:03:21,767 --> 00:03:25,467 And my view is, this is the immature manifestation 31 00:03:25,467 --> 00:03:28,467 of what people with psychopathy will do, 32 00:03:28,467 --> 00:03:32,700 which is to set the stage for where the conversation is going to go, 33 00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:37,266 to kind of get your attention onto a topic they want you to be focused on. 34 00:04:50,867 --> 00:04:52,800 From what we know from police evidence 35 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 is that this explanation that Hillman's giving 36 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,967 is really not plausible. 37 00:04:56,967 --> 00:04:59,300 He's making up this narrative, this story 38 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:01,500 to displace the blame 39 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:05,600 from himself onto the victim, that he was targeted. 40 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,800 What we know about William McFarlan is that he as an older adult 41 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,700 that had mobility and health issues, 42 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:11,900 and so we wouldn't assume 43 00:05:11,900 --> 00:05:14,200 that someone in that kind of position would be able to engage 44 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,467 in such road rage or aggression 45 00:05:16,467 --> 00:05:20,166 or have anything to do with a teenager. 46 00:06:30,967 --> 00:06:34,100 I feel that the crime that Hillman committed 47 00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:39,700 was a disorganized and very impulsive action, 48 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:42,967 and he goes from zero to 100 in a matter of seconds. 49 00:06:42,967 --> 00:06:47,166 I mean, even if the victim was honking at him 50 00:06:47,166 --> 00:06:49,266 or something like that on the road, 51 00:06:49,266 --> 00:06:53,400 that in no way justifies this degree of violence. 52 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,867 That he takes pride in his physical prowess 53 00:06:56,867 --> 00:07:01,667 and that he was able to exert and inflict this kind of pain, 54 00:07:01,667 --> 00:07:04,767 he wants people to know what he's capable of 55 00:07:04,767 --> 00:07:09,066 and that he's not somebody to be messed with. 56 00:09:53,700 --> 00:09:56,467 [Dr. Charles] The fact that he doesn't show any signs 57 00:09:56,467 --> 00:09:58,967 of what we would call social normative behavior 58 00:09:58,967 --> 00:10:01,266 is upsetting to the police officer. 59 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:03,867 He's calm and cool. 60 00:10:05,367 --> 00:10:08,567 We refer to that technically in psychopathy 61 00:10:08,567 --> 00:10:10,367 as this shallow affect 62 00:10:10,367 --> 00:10:13,667 that they don't experience and express the range 63 00:10:13,667 --> 00:10:15,667 or the feelings that are appropriate 64 00:10:15,667 --> 00:10:17,333 for the situation they're in. 65 00:10:18,467 --> 00:10:20,567 It's an absolutely normal human reaction 66 00:10:20,567 --> 00:10:22,467 on the part of the police officer, 67 00:10:22,467 --> 00:10:26,700 but it is triggered by the pathology that they are running into. 68 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:30,066 It is triggered by the fact that they're meeting with someone with psychopathy. 69 00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:08,967 [Dr. Nicole] What we know in psychopaths, 70 00:11:08,967 --> 00:11:10,700 and what I think we see here with Hillman 71 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:15,266 is the classic attentional-deficit that they experience. 72 00:11:15,266 --> 00:11:18,000 Because they have problems in information processing. 73 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,900 Specifically in the beginning of that system, 74 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:23,700 where they are so myopically focused 75 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:26,266 on whatever is right in front of them, 76 00:11:26,266 --> 00:11:29,867 that they fail to process the information around them. 77 00:11:29,867 --> 00:11:34,800 So he's trying to repeat back so he can track what they're doing. 78 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,333 But he's so just focused in the moment. 79 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,767 [eerie music playing] 80 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,834 [cell phone ringing] 81 00:12:45,266 --> 00:12:47,300 Here Hillman's calling his father 82 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:49,900 trying to get someone to bail him out. 83 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:52,400 He's trying to manipulate him to get him out of a situation 84 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,266 that he's uncomfortable in. 85 00:12:54,266 --> 00:12:56,400 He wants to be rescued now, 86 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,867 and he's not being able to manipulate his father. 87 00:12:58,867 --> 00:13:01,667 So what we're seeing here is Hillman moving on 88 00:13:01,667 --> 00:13:05,000 to his next potential victim, which is his mother. 89 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,934 [cell phone ringing] 90 00:13:30,367 --> 00:13:31,734 [sighs in exasperation] 91 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:49,500 [Dr. Miranda] He's again painting himself as a victim 92 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:53,266 when in reality he really hasn't been wronged in any way. 93 00:13:53,266 --> 00:13:55,867 In fact, he's the one here who killed someone. 94 00:13:57,567 --> 00:13:59,767 [Dr. Charles] He does throw in a few questions to find out 95 00:13:59,767 --> 00:14:01,600 what do the police know? 96 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,767 What have they found? 97 00:14:02,767 --> 00:14:04,567 Remember, this is about control. 98 00:14:04,567 --> 00:14:09,133 So, he's not in control if he knows less than the police. 99 00:14:11,867 --> 00:14:13,967 [rattling] 100 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:45,000 [Dr. Charles] He does what I think is intimidating, 101 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,300 and I suspect that's what's influenced Mom's behavior in the past, 102 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:54,000 where "We don't want him upset" is the message. 103 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,200 "I'm getting real upset", 104 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,433 "You don't want me upset, you need to fix this". 105 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,266 [Dr. Nicole] A core feature of psychopathy is superficial charm, 106 00:16:20,266 --> 00:16:24,600 its disingenuous features that they make themselves out 107 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,767 to be better than what they are. 108 00:16:26,767 --> 00:16:31,100 He's trying to be charming, engaging, likable. 109 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:33,467 He's trying to get something out of them as well. 110 00:16:33,467 --> 00:16:35,467 These detectives are not taking any sort of bait. 111 00:16:35,467 --> 00:16:37,233 They're very disenchanted with him. 112 00:17:16,767 --> 00:17:19,233 [camera shutter clicking] 113 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,266 [Dr. Charles] He does not think before he acts, 114 00:17:37,266 --> 00:17:38,467 and I think we're seeing 115 00:17:38,467 --> 00:17:42,400 the spontaneous, immature, impulsive side of him right there. 116 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,266 He just had a thought, "Oh, get my good side". 117 00:17:44,266 --> 00:17:46,300 So he said it. He doesn't censor. 118 00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:48,533 And that's why he gets into trouble. 119 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,967 [suspenseful music playing] 120 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,767 [Dr. Miranda] Hillman makes statements that my friends would never do that to me. 121 00:18:56,767 --> 00:18:59,100 They would never speak to the police. 122 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,166 And here we're seeing 123 00:19:01,166 --> 00:19:06,200 in real time Hillman's poor sense of reality 124 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,900 and how out of touch he is in his relationship 125 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:12,000 that he feels that these individuals 126 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,166 would do anything to protect him. 127 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:19,300 [Dr. Charles] The whole idea about making sure they get the story straight 128 00:19:19,300 --> 00:19:21,600 is about when there's witness tampering 129 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,266 that is about control. 130 00:19:23,266 --> 00:19:26,266 That's about trying to now do damage control 131 00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:28,900 and to get what he wants. 132 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:32,266 He doesn't care what will happen to them 133 00:19:32,266 --> 00:19:34,500 if they go along with his plan 134 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:35,634 and then they're found out, 135 00:19:35,634 --> 00:19:39,300 and then they would get charged with the crime as well.