1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:12,066 ♪ 2 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,767 [man] The thing inside of me, it's like the appetite. 3 00:01:02,834 --> 00:01:08,634 It's like a wolf that's gone to hunger. 4 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:32,467 [Sahni] Despite being law enforcement himself previously, 5 00:02:32,467 --> 00:02:34,667 Clay Waller didn't bother to call dispatch 6 00:02:34,734 --> 00:02:37,867 until he receives pressure from Jacque's family. 7 00:02:37,867 --> 00:02:41,867 Waller's lack of concern or urgency for locating 8 00:02:41,934 --> 00:02:44,467 his estranged wife, the mother of his triplets, 9 00:02:44,467 --> 00:02:46,467 who are only five years old, 10 00:02:46,467 --> 00:02:49,066 just makes his overall behavior suspicious. 11 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:41,667 What his son is starting to paint for us is a picture of 12 00:03:41,734 --> 00:03:43,967 somebody with a parasitic lifestyle mix, 13 00:03:44,033 --> 00:03:45,467 where you're using other people. 14 00:03:45,533 --> 00:03:47,166 You're willing to live off of other people, 15 00:03:47,233 --> 00:03:49,767 and there's no real sense of adult responsibility 16 00:03:49,834 --> 00:03:51,867 or conscience to take care of yourself, 17 00:03:51,867 --> 00:03:53,467 to have a sense of integrity. 18 00:03:53,467 --> 00:03:57,467 [reporter] 39-year-old Jacque Waller, formerly of Cape Girardeau, 19 00:03:57,467 --> 00:04:01,367 was last seen here on Woodland Drive in North Neal in Jackson. 20 00:04:01,367 --> 00:04:04,367 Dozens of officers are now working this case. 21 00:04:04,367 --> 00:04:06,867 No one believes that this mother of three 22 00:04:06,934 --> 00:04:08,934 would just walk away from her children. 23 00:04:17,367 --> 00:04:21,266 [Saraiya] "Wednesday, March 23rd, Clay called me at 7 a.m. 24 00:04:21,266 --> 00:04:23,166 "He was threatening me and yelling at me. 25 00:04:23,233 --> 00:04:24,867 "Met him at the airport. 26 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:27,767 "He told me that divorcing him was a death sentence. 27 00:04:27,767 --> 00:04:30,266 "He would get me, and if he couldn't get to me, 28 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:32,066 "he would kill our kids." 29 00:04:32,066 --> 00:04:37,867 So in this excerpt, you can see that there's just no regard for 30 00:04:37,934 --> 00:04:42,367 his having any real genuine affection for his own children. 31 00:04:42,367 --> 00:04:45,066 And just like all the characters in 32 00:04:45,066 --> 00:04:47,567 a psychopath's life, they're not other people 33 00:04:47,567 --> 00:04:52,066 who have feelings and interests and the ability to feel pain 34 00:04:52,066 --> 00:04:53,266 or anything else. 35 00:04:53,333 --> 00:04:56,667 They're simply characters in the story as they relate 36 00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:57,934 to the psychopath, 37 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,867 and it's striking that even his young children, 38 00:05:01,934 --> 00:05:06,367 that he later claims he cares so much about, actually appear 39 00:05:06,367 --> 00:05:10,166 as just pawns for him to use as suits him 40 00:05:10,166 --> 00:05:11,634 in a particular situation. 41 00:05:15,066 --> 00:05:17,767 When we look at journal entries like this, 42 00:05:17,834 --> 00:05:18,967 I think what this speaks to 43 00:05:19,033 --> 00:05:23,367 is a pattern of coercive emotional abuse, 44 00:05:23,433 --> 00:05:24,400 physical threats, 45 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,367 and he is doing what so many domestic abusers do. 46 00:05:28,367 --> 00:05:30,567 When they can't get to their partner, 47 00:05:30,634 --> 00:05:33,367 They use the children as a weapon, and they threaten 48 00:05:33,367 --> 00:05:34,667 to harm the children. 49 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:45,467 \{reporter 2] A new development in the Jacque Waller case. 50 00:05:45,467 --> 00:05:48,166 Investigators searching her estranged husband's rental 51 00:05:48,233 --> 00:05:50,266 have discovered blood spatter on two walls 52 00:05:50,333 --> 00:05:52,166 and that carpet had been removed. 53 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:48,066 [line clicks] 54 00:06:48,133 --> 00:06:49,734 [dial tone] 55 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,100 [reporter] Clay Waller says the community's out to get him. 56 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:56,967 People spray painting "killer" on his truck. 57 00:06:57,033 --> 00:07:02,166 I mean, it's been a hard time for us all. 58 00:07:02,233 --> 00:07:05,667 Carpet and carpet pad hidden out of view 59 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:07,767 in the back of a crawl space. 60 00:07:07,767 --> 00:07:11,166 One piece had a large blood stain that the crime lab 61 00:07:11,166 --> 00:07:14,667 confirmed contained Jacque Waller's DNA. 62 00:07:28,667 --> 00:07:30,367 Clay, do you have any comment? 63 00:07:30,433 --> 00:07:32,266 He was arrested in Malden, Missouri 64 00:07:32,333 --> 00:07:35,867 on charges not related to his estranged wife's disappearance. 65 00:07:35,867 --> 00:07:39,100 He now faced a charge of stealing from a Cape Girardeau 66 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:42,133 company and also a harassment charge. 67 00:08:04,367 --> 00:08:07,166 They haven't yet found enough evidence 68 00:08:07,233 --> 00:08:08,767 to actually charge him with anything, 69 00:08:08,767 --> 00:08:12,567 and in his mind, as former law enforcement, without a body, 70 00:08:12,567 --> 00:08:13,767 what are they gonna charge him with? 71 00:08:13,767 --> 00:08:16,467 So he just continues to taunt them. 72 00:08:16,467 --> 00:08:20,867 It's quite possible that this cat and mouse game isn't just 73 00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:24,367 Clay's hope to keep himself out of trouble. 74 00:08:24,367 --> 00:08:26,567 There's a secondary euphoria he's getting 75 00:08:26,567 --> 00:08:30,767 by thinking he's in charge, he's smarter than them. 76 00:08:30,767 --> 00:08:33,367 I think his body language is telling. 77 00:08:33,367 --> 00:08:35,667 He's almost, like, stretched out, 78 00:08:35,667 --> 00:08:38,667 owning the entire interrogation room. 79 00:08:38,734 --> 00:08:39,967 He wants to show, I'm in control. 80 00:08:40,033 --> 00:08:43,367 You may think this is your interrogation, but really, 81 00:08:43,433 --> 00:08:45,233 I'm the one who's deciding which way we go. 82 00:09:15,166 --> 00:09:17,667 [Sahni] When he's confronted about the biological evidence, 83 00:09:17,667 --> 00:09:19,266 he doesn't even miss a beat. 84 00:09:19,266 --> 00:09:22,166 He doesn't hesitate to just insert another lie. 85 00:09:22,166 --> 00:09:24,567 If she had a nosebleed, if she tripped and hurt herself, 86 00:09:24,634 --> 00:09:27,767 why would you cut out the carpet in a rental? 87 00:09:27,834 --> 00:09:30,867 And then on top of that, he very covertly hid it so that 88 00:09:30,867 --> 00:09:32,867 it would be out of line of sight for anybody 89 00:09:32,867 --> 00:09:34,467 if they came through the house. 90 00:09:34,467 --> 00:09:36,367 Every step of the way, he has done what he can 91 00:09:36,367 --> 00:09:38,266 to hide and obstruct the process. 92 00:09:38,266 --> 00:09:40,567 His need for power and control 93 00:09:40,634 --> 00:09:42,467 and his narcissistic views of things 94 00:09:42,467 --> 00:09:45,667 far supercede any fear response he may have, 95 00:09:45,667 --> 00:09:47,467 and that's something we do see oftentimes 96 00:09:47,467 --> 00:09:49,066 in psychopathic individuals. 97 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:34,767 [reporter] On Thursday morning, Clay Waller appeared in court 98 00:11:34,834 --> 00:11:37,967 regarding the alleged death threats he made to Jacque 99 00:11:38,033 --> 00:11:40,266 Waller's sister, Cheryl Brenneke, 100 00:11:40,266 --> 00:11:42,367 on the website Topics. 101 00:11:42,367 --> 00:11:45,867 Jacque's sister got custody of the children, the triplets. 102 00:11:45,934 --> 00:11:50,066 So I think that what this represents is that Jacque's 103 00:11:50,066 --> 00:11:53,166 sister has basically become a proxy for Jacque. 104 00:11:53,166 --> 00:11:57,567 The narcissistic traits in psychopaths, you know, 105 00:11:57,567 --> 00:12:01,000 if they experience kind of anything that threatens 106 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,667 their feeling of mastery, it's going to trigger anger, 107 00:12:04,667 --> 00:12:08,667 and they're prone to lash out with violence, with threats, 108 00:12:08,734 --> 00:12:09,767 things like that. 109 00:12:09,834 --> 00:12:14,166 This specific dynamic of someone is going to take 110 00:12:14,166 --> 00:12:17,467 the children away from me, that sets him off, 111 00:12:17,467 --> 00:12:20,166 and he directs thoughts of violence toward that person. 112 00:12:20,233 --> 00:12:22,667 So for the longest time, it was Jacque. 113 00:12:22,734 --> 00:12:24,166 Jacque's out of the picture. 114 00:12:24,233 --> 00:12:27,066 This is a very kind of clear substitute. 115 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,567 [reporter] Clay Waller has not been charged 116 00:12:43,567 --> 00:12:46,100 in connection with his wife's disappearance. 117 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:47,266 [Humphreys] She's still missing, 118 00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:50,166 and our first and foremost priority is to find her. 119 00:12:50,233 --> 00:12:53,367 Waller's parents just want their daughter found, 120 00:12:53,367 --> 00:12:55,767 especially for the sake of her three children, 121 00:12:55,767 --> 00:12:58,066 who turn six next month. 122 00:12:58,066 --> 00:12:59,166 It's gone on so long, 123 00:12:59,233 --> 00:13:00,834 we want there to be an end to it. 124 00:13:01,467 --> 00:13:04,166 Because it's so hard not to know. 125 00:13:04,166 --> 00:13:06,567 [Sahni] He's doing things to enjoy that arousal 126 00:13:06,567 --> 00:13:08,266 of being in charge, 127 00:13:08,333 --> 00:13:09,967 and particularly with somebody 128 00:13:10,033 --> 00:13:11,767 who's a domestic violence perpetrator, 129 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:14,667 that need for control is far more intense 130 00:13:14,667 --> 00:13:16,166 than it is for most of us, 131 00:13:16,233 --> 00:13:18,367 and so it's important to realize that at this point, 132 00:13:18,367 --> 00:13:22,266 Because we know after the fact that Clay has killed Jacque, 133 00:13:22,333 --> 00:13:24,667 he's hidden her body, nobody knows where it is. 134 00:13:24,734 --> 00:13:27,867 He's gotta get that thrill seeking, 135 00:13:27,867 --> 00:13:29,066 that arousal, from somewhere. 136 00:13:29,133 --> 00:13:31,667 So continuing to jerk the police around 137 00:13:31,667 --> 00:13:33,033 is how he does that. 138 00:13:41,567 --> 00:13:44,667 [reporter] Waller pleaded guilty to second degree murder, 139 00:13:44,667 --> 00:13:45,767 a lesser charge. 140 00:13:45,767 --> 00:13:47,467 You'll be remanded to the custody 141 00:13:47,467 --> 00:13:48,667 of the Missouri Department of Corrections 142 00:13:48,667 --> 00:13:52,100 to serve a term of 20 years of imprisonment. 143 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:55,266 [reporter] Clay Waller led investigators here to Devil's Island 144 00:13:55,266 --> 00:13:57,066 in Alexander County, Illinois, 145 00:13:57,066 --> 00:14:00,066 where they dug up Jacque Waller's remains. 146 00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:04,266 In return, Mr. Waller had to provide the location 147 00:14:04,266 --> 00:14:06,166 of Jacque Waller's body, 148 00:14:06,166 --> 00:14:11,433 sit down, and give an accounting of how he killed Jacque Waller. 149 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,066 Essentially, he states that it was Jacque's fault 150 00:16:53,133 --> 00:16:54,567 that she was killed. 151 00:16:54,634 --> 00:16:55,500 He said, "I warned her," 152 00:16:55,500 --> 00:16:59,100 as if a threat that he acted on to kill her 153 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:00,767 is in any way valid. 154 00:17:00,834 --> 00:17:03,867 But on top of that, he explains how he looked 155 00:17:03,867 --> 00:17:07,100 her in the eye as he was killing her, and he just didn't 156 00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:09,066 feel anything bad because he warned her, 157 00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:11,567 and so he's absolved of any type of guilt 158 00:17:11,567 --> 00:17:13,533 or responsibility. 159 00:17:42,867 --> 00:17:46,000 He had just committed murder, and his wife is now dead. 160 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,467 The children that he has with her are now motherless, 161 00:17:48,533 --> 00:17:51,767 and he's complaining about her body being too heavy. 162 00:17:51,767 --> 00:17:53,767 Even then, he's saying it in such a way 163 00:17:53,767 --> 00:17:57,634 that the only real emotion he shows is for himself. 164 00:18:35,867 --> 00:18:37,967 While Waller is describing the details 165 00:18:37,967 --> 00:18:40,266 of what actually happened the day he killed Jacque, 166 00:18:40,333 --> 00:18:43,166 there are moments where he sounds like 167 00:18:43,233 --> 00:18:46,367 it was this impulsive act, but he dug the hole before. 168 00:18:46,367 --> 00:18:48,367 He knew she signed her death warrant 169 00:18:48,433 --> 00:18:50,767 the minute she didn't back down on the divorce. 170 00:18:50,834 --> 00:18:55,467 There's a complete disconnect from the terror 171 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:57,367 and coercive behavior that he engaged in 172 00:18:57,367 --> 00:18:59,066 throughout their relationship. 173 00:18:59,066 --> 00:19:01,867 Perpetrators of domestic violence have a very distorted 174 00:19:01,867 --> 00:19:04,266 view of their role in the relationship, 175 00:19:04,266 --> 00:19:06,567 how they behave, the motivations behind 176 00:19:06,567 --> 00:19:10,567 the violence and aggression, who's to blame, as well as 177 00:19:10,567 --> 00:19:14,367 a belief, perhaps, that these are actions of love. 178 00:19:14,367 --> 00:19:16,467 Jacque wanted to leave and provide her children 179 00:19:16,467 --> 00:19:17,767 a better life. 180 00:19:17,767 --> 00:19:21,533 That was her riskiest point of safety, and she didn't make it. 181 00:19:28,767 --> 00:19:31,767 [reporter] In May of 2016, Clay Waller was charged 182 00:19:31,767 --> 00:19:33,867 with interstate domestic violence, 183 00:19:33,867 --> 00:19:36,000 meaning Waller traveled back and forth 184 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,867 between Illinois and Missouri 185 00:19:37,934 --> 00:19:40,333 with the intent to kill his wife. 186 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:49,166 Jacque Waller's sister 187 00:19:49,166 --> 00:19:51,767 delivered the victim's impact statement. 188 00:19:51,767 --> 00:19:54,667 Cheryl Brenneke now raising, along with her husband, 189 00:19:54,734 --> 00:19:58,166 Clay and Jacque Waller's seven-year-old triplets. 190 00:19:58,166 --> 00:20:02,166 They know you murdered their mother. 191 00:20:02,166 --> 00:20:03,767 We had to tell them that. 192 00:20:03,767 --> 00:20:08,166 Clay Waller's son, Maddox, also had a taped recording 193 00:20:08,166 --> 00:20:09,367 for his dad. 194 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:29,233 ♪ 195 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,333 ♪ 196 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,000 ♪