1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:06,589 --> 00:00:08,925 [newsman] Some experts call it a retail apocalypse. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:09,009 --> 00:00:13,805 2019 marked one of the worst years in a decade for brick-and-mortar stores. 5 00:00:15,306 --> 00:00:16,266 [man] Less Is Now. 6 00:00:19,728 --> 00:00:23,273 [interviewer] Why do you think this idea of minimalism or simplifying 7 00:00:23,356 --> 00:00:25,191 is really catching on right now? 8 00:00:25,275 --> 00:00:26,109 Mm-hmm. 9 00:00:26,776 --> 00:00:29,571 I think it's because we have the opportunity to have so much. [laughs] 10 00:00:29,654 --> 00:00:32,073 A portion of America's definitely addicted to stuff. 11 00:00:32,157 --> 00:00:35,660 Probably not in the classic psychology sense of addiction. 12 00:00:36,244 --> 00:00:37,871 We just love stuff! 13 00:00:37,954 --> 00:00:39,664 Monday, today, is supposed to be 14 00:00:39,748 --> 00:00:42,542 the biggest online shopping day of all times, 15 00:00:42,625 --> 00:00:46,671 reaching around three-and-a-third billion dollars in online sales. 16 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:49,758 Anything that you can think of, you can get on your doorstep, 17 00:00:49,841 --> 00:00:51,009 now within 24 hours. 18 00:00:51,092 --> 00:00:53,136 That's… That's almost like magic, right? 19 00:00:53,219 --> 00:00:58,058 When you look up at the sky, you may soon see Amazon's army of new-age deliveries. 20 00:00:58,141 --> 00:01:01,227 [newswoman] The electronic aircraft would have a 15-mile range 21 00:01:01,311 --> 00:01:04,731 and deliver packages within 30 minutes. 22 00:01:04,814 --> 00:01:06,858 [man] The consumer world understands 23 00:01:06,941 --> 00:01:09,736 that if I can get you to choose before you think, 24 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,530 I'm gonna get you to buy things you do not need. 25 00:01:12,614 --> 00:01:15,533 My senses are just being bombarded with reminders, 26 00:01:15,617 --> 00:01:17,243 like, "Hey, you should buy this. 27 00:01:17,327 --> 00:01:19,621 You'd be happier if you buy this." You know? 28 00:01:19,704 --> 00:01:22,415 [laughing] And it's just sort of like, in so many ways, 29 00:01:22,499 --> 00:01:24,501 they're trying to beat you into submission. 30 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:26,586 "Okay, I'll buy it! I need it! I need it!" 31 00:01:26,669 --> 00:01:28,296 Amazon, hiring once again. 32 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:31,299 The company looking to recruit 100,000 workers 33 00:01:31,382 --> 00:01:34,344 to meet surging levels of e-commerce demand. 34 00:01:34,427 --> 00:01:37,514 Lots of smaller retail businesses are being lost, 35 00:01:37,597 --> 00:01:40,809 and the power is being consolidated in the hands of these giants. 36 00:01:41,309 --> 00:01:44,354 Stuff is contributing to our discontent in so many different ways, 37 00:01:44,437 --> 00:01:46,397 because it's taking the place 38 00:01:46,481 --> 00:01:49,400 of the things that actually do give us more happiness. 39 00:01:51,319 --> 00:01:56,366 I found minimalism about seven years ago in the midst of a breakdown. 40 00:01:56,449 --> 00:02:00,703 I was overworked. Um, I was exhausted. I was heavily stressed out. 41 00:02:00,787 --> 00:02:03,248 There has to be more to life than just working. 42 00:02:03,915 --> 00:02:07,335 I think immediately I got up, and I went to my closet, 43 00:02:07,418 --> 00:02:09,212 and I started pulling my clothes out. 44 00:02:09,295 --> 00:02:13,758 Uh, I stayed up until 3:00 a.m., and I just packed so many things. 45 00:02:13,842 --> 00:02:17,971 [woman] As I started slowly releasing things, 46 00:02:18,054 --> 00:02:19,556 I gained a sense of freedom. 47 00:02:20,098 --> 00:02:23,476 [woman 2] Change is definitely coming. Change is inevitable, 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,687 because you can't continue to consume 49 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:28,064 more than the planet can replenish every year. 50 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:29,482 You just physically can't. 51 00:02:29,566 --> 00:02:32,944 So the question is not if we are gonna change as a society, 52 00:02:33,027 --> 00:02:34,654 but how we are gonna change. 53 00:02:34,737 --> 00:02:37,365 'Cause we're either gonna change by design or by disaster. 54 00:02:39,993 --> 00:02:42,036 It all started with one question. 55 00:02:42,912 --> 00:02:46,374 How might your life be better with less? 56 00:02:53,298 --> 00:02:54,299 [birds chirping] 57 00:02:56,342 --> 00:02:57,802 -[man] Want some tea? -[woman] Sure. 58 00:02:57,886 --> 00:02:58,720 [man] Okay. 59 00:02:58,803 --> 00:03:00,597 [woman] It's in the… Yeah. Okay. 60 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:06,853 [man] Yeah, y-you know, I mean, aesthetics are important to me, 61 00:03:07,395 --> 00:03:12,192 but what I care most about is having a place free of clutter. 62 00:03:12,275 --> 00:03:13,651 So when you look around my place, 63 00:03:13,735 --> 00:03:17,071 not everything is necessarily minimalist design. 64 00:03:17,155 --> 00:03:21,993 I don't go out of my way to specifically have only minimalist aesthetics. 65 00:03:22,076 --> 00:03:25,747 But to me, it's… it's clutter-free. 66 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:29,083 We often confuse simplicity with easy, 67 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:31,502 but it's actually the exact opposite. 68 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:33,880 Living a simple life, it takes a lot of work. 69 00:03:33,963 --> 00:03:37,926 It takes a lot of work to be intentional. What's easy is going with the flow. 70 00:03:38,009 --> 00:03:41,679 It's going out, and going to IKEA, and buying the cheap furniture 71 00:03:41,763 --> 00:03:45,975 every time you think you need a piece of furniture or an end table. 72 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:51,981 It is very difficult to go through some of these stoical experiments 73 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:55,151 to see what you can live with or live without, 74 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:57,278 but, in the end, it's worth the work. 75 00:03:57,987 --> 00:04:00,198 [host] People go, "Check out this documentary. 76 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:02,533 -These guys, The Minimalists." -[hosts 2] The Minimalists. 77 00:04:02,617 --> 00:04:05,703 [host 3] The Minimalists are with us. Joshua and Ryan. 78 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:08,748 [TV journalist] They have books, a podcast, and a Netflix documentary, 79 00:04:08,831 --> 00:04:12,210 all guiding typical consumers on how to downsize their way to happiness. 80 00:04:13,044 --> 00:04:17,757 [Ryan] I don't think you can understand how Josh and I came to be minimalists 81 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:19,676 without looking at our upbringings. 82 00:04:20,510 --> 00:04:22,929 Both of us grew up poor. 83 00:04:23,012 --> 00:04:28,017 Our moms had issues with substance abuse, and we really never had enough. 84 00:04:29,519 --> 00:04:31,312 Dude, look at this. This is hilarious. 85 00:04:31,396 --> 00:04:32,939 [laughter] 86 00:04:33,022 --> 00:04:36,025 Even our furniture. [chuckling] It was like… 87 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:38,194 It was like do-it-yourself furniture. 88 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,280 That's like our cupboard in the kitchen. 89 00:04:40,363 --> 00:04:45,368 I was really a happy kid up until, uh, about the second grade 90 00:04:45,451 --> 00:04:48,621 when my parents got divorced. 91 00:04:48,705 --> 00:04:50,999 It happens to a lot of kids, their parents get divorced. 92 00:04:51,708 --> 00:04:55,920 But I remember things really getting dysfunctional when… 93 00:04:56,004 --> 00:04:59,048 uh, when my mom left my dad. 94 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:02,385 And there was just a lot of… 95 00:05:02,468 --> 00:05:05,179 a lot of partying, I remember. 96 00:05:05,263 --> 00:05:10,268 And, um, you know, as a kid, it looked like a lot of fun. 97 00:05:10,351 --> 00:05:12,520 My mom did a good job of making it look fun. 98 00:05:13,187 --> 00:05:16,983 I met Josh in the fifth grade when I moved to his middle school. 99 00:05:17,066 --> 00:05:18,151 [laughs] Oh! 100 00:05:18,234 --> 00:05:20,820 [Ryan] It could have been that we were both from broken homes 101 00:05:20,903 --> 00:05:22,405 and didn't have much money growing up, 102 00:05:22,488 --> 00:05:25,783 or maybe it was that we were the two fattest kids in our grade, 103 00:05:25,867 --> 00:05:28,870 but we just hit it off, and we became best friends. 104 00:05:29,495 --> 00:05:32,957 [Joshua] When we were growing up, I feel like we could've used minimalism, 105 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:36,336 because minimalism is basically the intentional use of resources you have, 106 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:39,672 and if you have very few resources, like we did growing up, 107 00:05:39,756 --> 00:05:41,507 man, we could've done much better 108 00:05:41,591 --> 00:05:43,343 by being more deliberate with those resources. 109 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:45,303 It's interesting, because when you're poor, 110 00:05:45,386 --> 00:05:48,473 it's like, when someone offers you something, you take it. 111 00:05:48,973 --> 00:05:53,770 I-I think about my household growing up, and we had so much stuff, 112 00:05:53,853 --> 00:05:57,440 because we took every single thing that was offered to us. 113 00:05:57,523 --> 00:06:00,026 However, we had a lot of stuff that we didn't need. 114 00:06:00,109 --> 00:06:04,572 In fact, it was just clutter, and it did not add any value. 115 00:06:05,406 --> 00:06:09,035 As we get more space, we fill it with more things. 116 00:06:09,118 --> 00:06:11,245 As we get more things, we need more space, 117 00:06:11,329 --> 00:06:13,831 so we turn to storage lockers, or we turn to bigger houses. 118 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:20,088 And we never really stop to question, "What is essential? What is necessary?" 119 00:06:20,171 --> 00:06:24,008 Then, "How much of the stuff is actually adding any value to my life at all?" 120 00:06:24,509 --> 00:06:25,843 A decade ago, 121 00:06:25,927 --> 00:06:29,889 by the time I was 28 years old, I had achieved everything I ever wanted. 122 00:06:29,972 --> 00:06:33,559 I was the youngest director in my company's 140-year history, 123 00:06:33,643 --> 00:06:36,771 and I had all the fringe benefits of a middle manager 124 00:06:36,854 --> 00:06:38,606 at a major corporation. 125 00:06:38,689 --> 00:06:40,358 The luxury cars, 126 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:42,819 the closet filled with designer clothes, 127 00:06:42,902 --> 00:06:45,988 the big suburban house with more toilets than people. 128 00:06:46,864 --> 00:06:50,159 I guess you could say I was living the American dream. 129 00:06:52,370 --> 00:06:54,789 But then, my mom died… 130 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:57,500 and my marriage ended… 131 00:06:58,376 --> 00:06:59,752 both in the same month. 132 00:07:00,294 --> 00:07:03,089 And these two events forced me to look around 133 00:07:03,172 --> 00:07:06,259 and start to question what had become my life's focus. 134 00:07:06,342 --> 00:07:07,593 You know what I realized? 135 00:07:07,677 --> 00:07:12,390 I realized I was so focused on so-called success, and achievement, 136 00:07:12,473 --> 00:07:16,269 and especially on the accumulation of stuff. 137 00:07:17,061 --> 00:07:19,522 I might have been living the American dream, 138 00:07:20,022 --> 00:07:21,566 but it wasn't my dream. 139 00:07:21,649 --> 00:07:23,651 It took getting everything I thought I wanted 140 00:07:23,734 --> 00:07:26,320 to realize that maybe everything I ever wanted 141 00:07:26,404 --> 00:07:29,657 wasn't actually what I wanted at all. 142 00:07:31,492 --> 00:07:34,203 [woman] Corporations and the drive for corporate profit 143 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:37,623 is absolutely behind the addiction to stuff that we have in this country. 144 00:07:38,124 --> 00:07:40,293 The way corporations are structured in this country 145 00:07:40,376 --> 00:07:42,044 is they really need to keep growing. 146 00:07:42,128 --> 00:07:44,922 A corporation's primary obligation is to their shareholders, 147 00:07:45,006 --> 00:07:47,884 to which they have to keep delivering increased revenue, 148 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:50,553 and that's sort of the foundation of capitalism, growth. 149 00:07:50,636 --> 00:07:55,183 I-I don't think the problem has much to do with how much we're growing, 150 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:59,020 but rather how we answer the question of "where are we going?" 151 00:07:59,103 --> 00:08:01,522 I think one of the biggest problems we have in our world now 152 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:04,066 is that people really aren't free to choose. 153 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:06,027 We talk about being in a free market 154 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:08,404 or a free society, but people aren't really free to choose. 155 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:11,199 Because you just have one or two large institutions 156 00:08:11,282 --> 00:08:13,659 that have these artificial monopolies, 157 00:08:13,743 --> 00:08:16,120 and they get to decide for everyone 158 00:08:16,204 --> 00:08:18,206 what you can watch, what you can listen to. 159 00:08:18,289 --> 00:08:21,751 And so, manipulation of… of our interests, 160 00:08:21,834 --> 00:08:26,756 manipulation of our natural, God-given taste really is happening. 161 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:32,178 [man] Marketers are really impressive in their ability to manipulate the mind, 162 00:08:32,261 --> 00:08:35,097 in their ability to create a need or a perceived need 163 00:08:35,181 --> 00:08:37,391 out of something that was a want. 164 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:41,687 We live in the most advertised-to culture in the history of the world. 165 00:08:41,771 --> 00:08:42,605 Think about it. 166 00:08:43,272 --> 00:08:47,318 Hundreds of millions of dollars are spent telling us we need this, 167 00:08:47,401 --> 00:08:48,486 and it has an effect. 168 00:08:49,695 --> 00:08:51,989 [Joshua] The money spent on advertising in the United States 169 00:08:52,073 --> 00:08:55,785 has increased from just over $5 billion in the 1950s 170 00:08:55,868 --> 00:08:59,080 to $240 billion a year today. 171 00:08:59,163 --> 00:09:01,290 And since the turn of the 21st century, 172 00:09:01,374 --> 00:09:05,253 much of that spending has moved from television and radio 173 00:09:05,336 --> 00:09:06,921 to digital advertising. 174 00:09:07,004 --> 00:09:10,424 The result, intelligent and predictive ads 175 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:13,261 that seem to know us better than we know ourselves. 176 00:09:13,344 --> 00:09:16,556 Companies have figured out how to stitch our devices together, 177 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:20,810 so they know when you pick up your tablet or switch to your smartphone, 178 00:09:20,893 --> 00:09:23,271 when you change the channel on your TV 179 00:09:23,354 --> 00:09:25,439 or speak to your smart device. 180 00:09:25,523 --> 00:09:29,068 Using the GPS on your devices, they can track your movement 181 00:09:29,151 --> 00:09:30,903 to see which billboards you pass, 182 00:09:30,987 --> 00:09:32,780 which stores you frequent, 183 00:09:32,863 --> 00:09:35,908 and even the amount of credit card debt you've racked up. 184 00:09:35,992 --> 00:09:37,201 They map these movements 185 00:09:37,285 --> 00:09:39,996 to know when it's the perfect time to message you next. 186 00:09:40,079 --> 00:09:44,834 And the end goal is always the same. To get you to buy more stuff. 187 00:09:46,377 --> 00:09:49,672 And one of the tricks they use is what we call deficit advertising. 188 00:09:49,755 --> 00:09:52,133 They send us advertisements 189 00:09:52,216 --> 00:09:56,178 that make us subconsciously feel like we are inadequate, um, 190 00:09:56,262 --> 00:09:57,763 if we don't have this product. 191 00:09:57,847 --> 00:10:00,725 So, "I will not be loved if I don't have this toothpaste." 192 00:10:00,808 --> 00:10:03,894 "My children will not value me if I don't have this dish soap." 193 00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:05,271 Everyone's gonna want this. 194 00:10:05,354 --> 00:10:07,648 It's no different than the premise of working out at a gym. 195 00:10:07,732 --> 00:10:09,233 It's the massaging hand sauna. 196 00:10:09,317 --> 00:10:12,945 -[woman] This is gonna make you thirsty. -A perfect set for every occasion. 197 00:10:13,029 --> 00:10:15,948 -You can feel it, you can see it. -[muffled] You can totally feel it. 198 00:10:16,032 --> 00:10:19,952 [Annie] This bombardment of messages that we are not enough. 199 00:10:20,036 --> 00:10:23,581 So think about what that does to people, just every day, 200 00:10:23,664 --> 00:10:26,250 over and over, getting messages, "You are not enough. 201 00:10:26,334 --> 00:10:29,712 Your hair, your clothes, your skin, your body is not enough." 202 00:10:29,795 --> 00:10:31,631 Just relentless. 203 00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:33,424 So then we want to go be enough. 204 00:10:33,507 --> 00:10:36,427 And because we've lost these other ways of being enough… 205 00:10:36,510 --> 00:10:40,431 The other ways of being enough are having a community, having a purpose, 206 00:10:40,514 --> 00:10:44,143 you know, having an identity besides the brand on you. 207 00:10:44,226 --> 00:10:45,645 Because we've lost those, 208 00:10:45,728 --> 00:10:49,065 we misplace our desire for belonging and satisfaction 209 00:10:49,148 --> 00:10:50,775 by buying more stuff. 210 00:10:50,858 --> 00:10:54,654 We don't really say, "Okay, I'm gonna turn stuff into my idol." 211 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:56,781 We don't say that in our intellect. 212 00:10:56,864 --> 00:10:58,783 No one intentionally does that. 213 00:10:58,866 --> 00:11:01,869 But we can tell by our behaviors that that's actually what we've done. 214 00:11:01,952 --> 00:11:04,163 Because you know, if you're saying to yourself, 215 00:11:04,246 --> 00:11:06,290 "Well, if I just had that car, I'd be happy then. 216 00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:08,751 If I just lived in that house, I'd be happy then. 217 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:10,628 If we moved to that neighborhood, we'd be happy. 218 00:11:10,711 --> 00:11:13,506 If I had that couch or those new drapes, I'd be happy then." 219 00:11:13,589 --> 00:11:17,009 And that means that you're worshiping at the altar of stuff. 220 00:11:17,093 --> 00:11:20,513 You have officially contracted the disease of "stuffitis." 221 00:11:21,055 --> 00:11:24,600 And so, it becomes a spiritual thing then, 222 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:27,895 because it's in competition with the things that really matter. 223 00:11:27,978 --> 00:11:29,647 [T.K.] Everybody's selling something. 224 00:11:29,730 --> 00:11:33,275 And that doesn't mean that… that selling is always bad. It's okay. 225 00:11:33,359 --> 00:11:36,987 I want my grocery store to sell things that I can go buy. 226 00:11:37,071 --> 00:11:40,825 I want to be able to buy food, right? So I want them to sell that to me. 227 00:11:40,908 --> 00:11:45,621 It's not about looking at people and condemning them for having an angle, 228 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:47,832 or for having something they're marketing, 229 00:11:47,915 --> 00:11:50,209 or for having a product that they're pushing. 230 00:11:50,292 --> 00:11:52,712 It's… It's making sure you understand 231 00:11:52,795 --> 00:11:55,881 that what other people are pushing is not always consistent. 232 00:11:55,965 --> 00:11:59,093 It's not always compatible with what it is you need. 233 00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:05,307 My shopping habits before minimalism were compulsive. 234 00:12:05,391 --> 00:12:07,560 I was spending money, and it was out of control. 235 00:12:07,643 --> 00:12:11,731 Shopping was a crutch. It was a place I would go to. 236 00:12:11,814 --> 00:12:14,942 Some people like to emotionally eat. I would emotionally shop. 237 00:12:15,025 --> 00:12:16,485 I was all about the deal. 238 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:21,782 So I was all about, um, finding, you know, that 99% off item 239 00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:24,535 that I could get, you know, for a huge discount. 240 00:12:24,618 --> 00:12:27,329 I would most likely buy that item 241 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:29,665 thinking this was the only chance I would get. 242 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:32,126 I would have, uh, nail clippers. 243 00:12:32,209 --> 00:12:35,463 I would buy fancy ones, normal ones, regular ones, you know. 244 00:12:35,546 --> 00:12:38,048 Ones that had a different little thing to go on it. 245 00:12:38,132 --> 00:12:40,134 I would buy just random stuff like that, 246 00:12:40,217 --> 00:12:42,887 and then I would realize, like, I'm wasting my money 247 00:12:42,970 --> 00:12:44,597 on things that I already have. 248 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:48,517 I bought a scooter. A 150 cc scooter. 249 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,895 I thought somehow that would change my life. 250 00:12:50,978 --> 00:12:54,607 I could imagine myself riding this in Atlanta. 251 00:12:54,690 --> 00:12:58,444 And if you've ever been in Atlanta traffic, 252 00:12:59,111 --> 00:13:02,573 the last thing you want to be doing is riding on a scooter. 253 00:13:02,656 --> 00:13:05,409 I felt like I deserved it. I felt like I worked really hard, 254 00:13:05,493 --> 00:13:09,288 and these beautiful items would show up and make me so happy. 255 00:13:09,371 --> 00:13:14,293 And then the feeling of shame would creep up and guilt, 256 00:13:14,376 --> 00:13:17,296 and the bills would show up, um, and I… 257 00:13:17,379 --> 00:13:19,173 It was just a… a bad cycle. 258 00:13:24,345 --> 00:13:26,180 [Joshua] You know, it's strange in retrospect, 259 00:13:26,263 --> 00:13:28,974 but I didn't realize we were poor when I was a kid. 260 00:13:29,058 --> 00:13:31,101 We were on food stamps and government assistance, 261 00:13:31,185 --> 00:13:33,312 but that seemed totally normal to me. 262 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:35,523 Poverty was sort of like oxygen. 263 00:13:35,606 --> 00:13:38,567 It was all around me, but I couldn't see it. 264 00:13:38,651 --> 00:13:40,778 It was just there. 265 00:13:41,529 --> 00:13:45,866 Shortly after I was born, my father's mental health took a turn for the worse, 266 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:48,536 and that's when everything started to change. 267 00:13:49,036 --> 00:13:50,871 You see, when Mom married my dad, 268 00:13:50,955 --> 00:13:54,667 she didn't realize he suffered from manic depression and schizophrenia, 269 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:57,211 but she found out pretty quickly. 270 00:13:58,295 --> 00:14:01,966 And Dad's mental illness was only amplified by his alcoholism, 271 00:14:02,049 --> 00:14:06,595 which made him mean, and aggressive, and completely unpredictable. 272 00:14:07,763 --> 00:14:11,225 I guess the physical abuse started around the time I was three years old. 273 00:14:11,308 --> 00:14:13,978 In fact, my very first memory as a child 274 00:14:14,061 --> 00:14:18,566 is of my father extinguishing a cigarette on my mom's bare chest. 275 00:14:19,733 --> 00:14:24,530 Things only got worse from there, until, eventually, we escaped. 276 00:14:25,573 --> 00:14:28,993 Mom and I moved 20 miles south to a suburb of Dayton, 277 00:14:29,076 --> 00:14:30,578 which sounds nice, right? 278 00:14:30,661 --> 00:14:31,829 The suburbs! 279 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:34,874 But it wasn't really nice at all. 280 00:14:40,212 --> 00:14:42,298 It's gonna be right up here on the right. 281 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:47,011 You see that green house right there? That's it. 282 00:14:49,805 --> 00:14:52,933 -[turn signal clicking] -Oh, man. 283 00:14:54,143 --> 00:14:55,060 Look at that. 284 00:14:55,728 --> 00:14:59,982 It's all boarded up, and it has, like, this wrap on her. 285 00:15:02,151 --> 00:15:04,194 -[car door opens] -[Joshua] Wanna take a look? 286 00:15:05,029 --> 00:15:07,740 We lived in a house that was literally falling apart. 287 00:15:07,823 --> 00:15:09,617 The rent was $200 a month. 288 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,745 Our home always smelled faintly of empty beer cans 289 00:15:12,828 --> 00:15:14,455 and stale cigarette smoke. 290 00:15:14,538 --> 00:15:15,789 I can still smell it now. 291 00:15:16,373 --> 00:15:19,543 Cockroaches scattered every time I turned on the kitchen light. 292 00:15:19,627 --> 00:15:21,128 And whenever the power got shut off, 293 00:15:21,211 --> 00:15:24,757 we'd run an extension cord from next door to keep the TV glowing. 294 00:15:25,674 --> 00:15:27,051 Here's the front door here. 295 00:15:30,137 --> 00:15:31,221 Oh, shit. 296 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:36,143 It looks like they might have squatters. It's totally falling apart. 297 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:43,233 So when we first moved down here, I know we signed up for food stamps. 298 00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:47,154 As a kid, I didn't know the difference between the white and green money we had, 299 00:15:47,237 --> 00:15:49,365 because the food stamps were these white bills, 300 00:15:49,448 --> 00:15:52,534 and then, you know, green money was just… just money, right? 301 00:15:52,618 --> 00:15:55,537 And she would trade the… 302 00:15:56,872 --> 00:15:59,333 She would trade the white bills… 303 00:16:00,376 --> 00:16:03,837 for the green bills, 'cause you needed the green bills to buy alcohol. 304 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:07,466 And so, she'd buy whatever beer was cheapest. 305 00:16:07,549 --> 00:16:11,595 You know, Milwaukee's Best or the bottom-shelf bottles of wine. 306 00:16:12,721 --> 00:16:16,392 I'd come home each day from school… I was about six. 307 00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:23,440 I would find Mom just passed out on the couch day after day after day. 308 00:16:23,524 --> 00:16:25,776 It became this normal occurrence and… 309 00:16:27,945 --> 00:16:31,240 I feel like I didn't realize it at the time, 310 00:16:31,323 --> 00:16:35,411 but I kind of thought it was… kind of thought it was my fault, you know. 311 00:16:37,037 --> 00:16:40,249 As things started unraveling, Mom's drinking got worse. 312 00:16:40,749 --> 00:16:44,920 Now don't get me wrong, my mom was a good person with a good heart 313 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:46,797 and a hilarious sense of humor. 314 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,676 Somewhere along the way, she'd simply lost a sense of meaning in her life. 315 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:53,262 And I knew the only way for me to break the cycle, 316 00:16:53,345 --> 00:16:56,140 the only way for me to find the meaning that she'd lost, 317 00:16:56,223 --> 00:16:58,392 was to make a lot of money when I grew up. 318 00:17:01,895 --> 00:17:03,814 I remember back when I was a teenager, 319 00:17:04,356 --> 00:17:07,067 I spent most of my summers working for my dad, 320 00:17:07,151 --> 00:17:09,319 painting and hanging wallpaper. 321 00:17:09,403 --> 00:17:12,865 And you should have seen some of the houses we worked in. 322 00:17:12,948 --> 00:17:16,201 Some of them were unbelievably fancy. 323 00:17:16,827 --> 00:17:19,038 Ten thousand square foot garages, 324 00:17:19,121 --> 00:17:21,040 indoor swimming pools, 325 00:17:21,123 --> 00:17:22,750 private bowling alleys. 326 00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:27,713 Nothing I aspired to own myself, but it was pretty impressive. 327 00:17:27,796 --> 00:17:33,469 And then, one day, we started to work on this really, really nice house. 328 00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:36,305 It wasn't like a multi-million-dollar nice house, 329 00:17:36,388 --> 00:17:39,600 but it was something nicer than my mom or dad had ever owned. 330 00:17:39,683 --> 00:17:41,351 The walls in their home, 331 00:17:41,435 --> 00:17:44,730 they were decorated with the smiling faces of friends and family 332 00:17:44,813 --> 00:17:47,149 that affirmed the happiness in their lives. 333 00:17:47,232 --> 00:17:51,695 And the stuff in their home, it filled every nook and cranny. 334 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:54,406 I pictured myself living there. 335 00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:59,495 I pictured how happy I would be if I could just own a house like that, 336 00:17:59,578 --> 00:18:01,705 filled with all that stuff. 337 00:18:02,998 --> 00:18:05,584 So, I turned to my dad and I asked him, 338 00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:09,713 "How much do I need to make in order to own a house like this?" 339 00:18:10,714 --> 00:18:15,427 He looked at me and he said, "Son, if you can make $50,0000 a year, 340 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:18,806 you could probably afford a place like this." 341 00:18:19,306 --> 00:18:22,768 So that became my benchmark. $50,000. 342 00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:26,396 Then, during my senior year of high school, 343 00:18:26,897 --> 00:18:30,943 Josh and I, we were sitting at the lonely lunchroom table together, 344 00:18:31,026 --> 00:18:31,902 and we started to talk 345 00:18:31,985 --> 00:18:35,614 about what we were going to do with our lives after we graduated. 346 00:18:35,697 --> 00:18:38,242 So I told him, "I don't know what I'm going to do, 347 00:18:38,325 --> 00:18:43,163 but if I can find a way to make $50,000 a year, 348 00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:45,249 I know that I'll be happy." 349 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:49,545 So that's what I went and did. That's what Josh went and did. 350 00:18:49,628 --> 00:18:53,423 We got sales jobs and we started earning 50 grand. 351 00:18:54,383 --> 00:18:55,759 But something went wrong. 352 00:18:55,843 --> 00:18:58,804 I wasn't happy. I had to go back to the drawing board. 353 00:18:58,887 --> 00:19:01,974 And thank goodness, I found out what had happened. 354 00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,394 I forgot to adjust for inflation. 355 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:07,813 So I thought to myself, 356 00:19:07,896 --> 00:19:11,483 "Well, maybe $65,000 a year, maybe that was happiness. 357 00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:13,277 Or maybe 90,000, 358 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,696 or maybe six figures, 359 00:19:15,779 --> 00:19:19,366 or maybe owning a bunch of stuff. 360 00:19:19,449 --> 00:19:21,702 Maybe that was happiness." 361 00:19:21,785 --> 00:19:23,453 Whatever happiness was, 362 00:19:23,954 --> 00:19:28,542 I knew, once I got there, I'd finally feel free. 363 00:19:29,501 --> 00:19:33,839 I bought new cars, and electronics, and closets full of expensive clothes. 364 00:19:33,922 --> 00:19:36,717 I bought expensive home decorations and furniture, 365 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,428 and I always had the latest gadgets. 366 00:19:39,511 --> 00:19:43,390 And when there wasn't enough cash in the bank, I paid for expensive meals, 367 00:19:43,473 --> 00:19:47,477 rounds of drinks, and frivolous vacations with credit cards. 368 00:19:48,103 --> 00:19:53,525 As I made more money, I spent more money, all in the pursuit of happiness. 369 00:19:53,609 --> 00:19:56,486 All in the pursuit of the American dream. 370 00:19:58,113 --> 00:19:59,656 [man] One thing I think is unique is 371 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:03,118 when you're an immigrant, the American dream is still a good thing. 372 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,913 I think it's only people who grew up in the American dream 373 00:20:05,996 --> 00:20:07,539 that no longer value the American dream, 374 00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:09,249 because it's become the American nightmare. 375 00:20:09,333 --> 00:20:13,545 [Annie] People in the US work longer hours than almost any industrialized country, 376 00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:17,466 depending on which data you look at, but we work enormously long hours. 377 00:20:17,549 --> 00:20:21,220 We work as long hours as people did during feudal society. 378 00:20:21,303 --> 00:20:23,847 We have such short vacations, if any. 379 00:20:23,931 --> 00:20:26,183 Half the country doesn't even take two weeks of vacation. 380 00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:28,560 We're commuting longer hours than ever before, 381 00:20:28,644 --> 00:20:32,814 and then we're spending more time alone in front of screens than ever before. 382 00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:36,235 We're losing the stuff that actually makes us happy 383 00:20:36,318 --> 00:20:38,487 and makes society more safe and secure, 384 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:39,863 which is community. 385 00:20:40,364 --> 00:20:41,865 Um, we're losing that 386 00:20:41,949 --> 00:20:45,244 and changing that time to work and buy more stuff. 387 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,874 [Erwin] What you don't want in your life is this endless horizon of aspiration. 388 00:20:50,958 --> 00:20:53,460 "I just need a bit more of this or a little bit more of that. 389 00:20:53,543 --> 00:20:55,879 I need more success, more income, more wealth, 390 00:20:55,963 --> 00:21:00,592 a bigger house, bigger car, bigger this," because that's just an endless black hole. 391 00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:03,303 When we get all of the things that we want, 392 00:21:03,387 --> 00:21:08,225 we tend to be wrong in the predictions that we made about how happy we would be, 393 00:21:08,308 --> 00:21:10,727 because the brain normalizes those things. 394 00:21:10,811 --> 00:21:13,230 After a few months of that, you normalize it, 395 00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:15,899 and you say, "All right, that was great at the time, 396 00:21:15,983 --> 00:21:19,319 but now I have a new set of desires, a new set of dreams," 397 00:21:19,403 --> 00:21:21,571 and everything that is the ceiling today 398 00:21:21,655 --> 00:21:25,993 becomes just the ground floor for a new level you're trying to get to. 399 00:21:26,076 --> 00:21:29,913 And so, really what the American dream is is this sense of freedom. 400 00:21:29,997 --> 00:21:33,250 Now how do you get that? Just by gathering up more money? 401 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:34,251 Nope, won't do it. 402 00:21:34,876 --> 00:21:36,920 Not if you gather up yet more stuff 403 00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:40,507 to go with your more money, because you're still gonna be teetering. 404 00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:43,385 You just added zeros to your stupidity is all you did then. 405 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:48,807 And so, what happens is you have to learn to contract your, in quotes, "needs," 406 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:52,269 so that you can create a buffer around your life 407 00:21:52,352 --> 00:21:54,855 and create this independence to where you've got enough savings 408 00:21:54,938 --> 00:21:58,066 that you can say, "Take this job and shove it," if you need to. 409 00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:00,652 You don't have a bunch of debt pounding down on your head, 410 00:22:00,736 --> 00:22:03,613 buying things that you don't really need 411 00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:05,490 with money you don't really have 412 00:22:05,574 --> 00:22:07,576 to impress people you don't even really like. 413 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,996 And so, what you've done there is you gave up your independence, 414 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:13,123 you gave up your freedom… 415 00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:16,626 in return for some stuff 416 00:22:16,710 --> 00:22:19,921 that's gonna be worth nothing in next year's garage sale. 417 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:24,009 [Erwin] You almost have buyer's remorse, and you also have this gambler's dilemma 418 00:22:24,092 --> 00:22:26,428 where you gambled for this and now you have it. 419 00:22:26,511 --> 00:22:29,431 Do you want to give it up even though it makes you unhappy? 420 00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:32,100 So I think a part of the process for all of us 421 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:35,145 is making sure we actually are going after what we truly want. 422 00:22:35,228 --> 00:22:38,273 And when we have something, to do an honest evaluation of going, 423 00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:41,777 "Is this something I want to define my life? Do I really want to keep this?" 424 00:22:44,738 --> 00:22:48,367 [Ryan] Chasing the American dream, it cost me so much more than money. 425 00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:53,246 My life was filled with stress, and anxiety, and discontent. 426 00:22:53,872 --> 00:22:57,501 It got to a point in my life where I didn't know what was important. 427 00:22:57,584 --> 00:22:59,086 But one thing was clear. 428 00:22:59,586 --> 00:23:03,465 I had this gaping void in my life. 429 00:23:03,548 --> 00:23:09,221 So I tried to fill that void the same way many people do, with stuff. 430 00:23:09,888 --> 00:23:13,975 I continued to work 60, 70, sometimes 80 hours a week, 431 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:17,396 forsaking some of the most important aspects of my life. 432 00:23:17,479 --> 00:23:21,066 I barely thought about my health, or my relationships, 433 00:23:21,149 --> 00:23:23,193 or things that I was passionate about. 434 00:23:23,276 --> 00:23:25,362 I was living paycheck to paycheck. 435 00:23:25,445 --> 00:23:27,322 Living for a paycheck. 436 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,032 Living for stuff. 437 00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:33,161 [Joshua] It's like I was swerving from credit card purchases 438 00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:34,913 to reckless spending 439 00:23:34,996 --> 00:23:40,335 to accumulating debt to maintain a lifestyle I didn't even enjoy. 440 00:23:41,002 --> 00:23:44,506 I had all of the stuff to fill every corner of my consumer-driven life. 441 00:23:44,589 --> 00:23:49,594 Giant televisions, fine china, stainless steel appliances, 442 00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:53,932 marble countertops, expensive watches, tailored suits 443 00:23:54,015 --> 00:23:57,978 and more, and more, and so much more. 444 00:23:59,271 --> 00:24:03,733 Then, toward the end of 2008, actually it was two days before Christmas, 445 00:24:04,276 --> 00:24:05,610 I got a phone call from Mom. 446 00:24:06,528 --> 00:24:08,947 She had just moved down to Florida earlier that year 447 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:11,741 to finally retire on Social Security. 448 00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:18,081 But on December 23rd, she found out she had Stage IV lung cancer. 449 00:24:19,916 --> 00:24:22,419 And in less than a year, she was gone. 450 00:24:23,587 --> 00:24:26,381 I spent a lot of time with Mom that year down in Florida 451 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:30,343 as she struggled through her chemo and radiation. 452 00:24:30,427 --> 00:24:33,972 But when she passed, I realized I needed to make one last visit. 453 00:24:34,681 --> 00:24:37,309 And this time, it was to deal with her stuff. 454 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:42,439 So I flew from Dayton, Ohio, down to St. Pete Beach, Florida. 455 00:24:43,106 --> 00:24:45,192 When I arrived, do you know what I found? 456 00:24:57,662 --> 00:24:58,580 Stuff. 457 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,668 Like three houses worth of stuff crammed into Mom's tiny one-bedroom apartment. 458 00:25:03,752 --> 00:25:06,087 Now, it's not like Mom was a hoarder. 459 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,924 I mean, I didn't find any dead cats in her freezer. 460 00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:11,551 But she owned a lot of stuff. 461 00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:14,638 Sixty-five years' worth of accumulations. 462 00:25:14,721 --> 00:25:16,681 Did you know the average American household 463 00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:19,184 has more than 300,000 items in it? 464 00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,019 300,000! 465 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,649 Just take a look around at your average basement, or attic, or garage. 466 00:25:25,732 --> 00:25:26,608 What do you see? 467 00:25:26,691 --> 00:25:29,819 Unused sporting goods, exercise equipment, 468 00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:32,948 camping gear, holiday decorations, 469 00:25:33,031 --> 00:25:35,909 musical instruments, spare parts, 470 00:25:35,992 --> 00:25:37,911 outdated electronics, 471 00:25:37,994 --> 00:25:41,414 random cords and miscellaneous cables, 472 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:45,043 magazines, and cassette tapes, and compact discs, 473 00:25:45,126 --> 00:25:48,004 tchotchkes, and knickknacks, and trinkets, 474 00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:51,132 and all the things we forgot we even owned. 475 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:57,013 Boxes, and bins, and entire rooms stuffed with stuff. 476 00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:01,768 We had so much. So much stuff. 477 00:26:01,851 --> 00:26:03,979 My closet was out of control. 478 00:26:04,062 --> 00:26:07,649 So I had a closet full of clothes. I had a dresser full of clothes. 479 00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:10,652 Photography equipment, bicycle equipment. 480 00:26:10,735 --> 00:26:12,571 Skin care products, beauty products. 481 00:26:12,654 --> 00:26:14,447 Shoes, purses. 482 00:26:14,531 --> 00:26:16,700 I'd open the closet, stuff would fall out. 483 00:26:16,783 --> 00:26:19,244 I don't know why, but I had three soccer cleats, 484 00:26:19,327 --> 00:26:22,163 even though I don't really even play soccer. [laughs] 485 00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:25,125 You know, things people had given me throughout the years, 486 00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:27,919 whether those be cards, or objects, 487 00:26:28,003 --> 00:26:31,298 or tokens that I'd kept from different events we'd gone to. 488 00:26:31,381 --> 00:26:34,551 But it was just a never-ending, uh, you know, turnstile 489 00:26:34,634 --> 00:26:36,595 of, uh, "I need this. I need that." 490 00:26:37,345 --> 00:26:39,139 [woman] It's so easy to buy things 491 00:26:39,222 --> 00:26:42,100 that we think are the solution to our problems. 492 00:26:42,183 --> 00:26:46,187 I remember when I had babies, and I really wanted them to sleep well, 493 00:26:46,271 --> 00:26:50,442 and I thought I just needed the perfect sleep device in order to make that happen. 494 00:26:50,525 --> 00:26:53,069 So I had probably four different types of swaddles, 495 00:26:53,153 --> 00:26:55,780 multiple different types of zip-up sleep devices. 496 00:26:55,864 --> 00:26:59,451 There are… If you go on Amazon, you can find there are dozens and dozens 497 00:26:59,534 --> 00:27:03,330 of different types of mechanisms to get babies to sleep. 498 00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:05,498 Pieces of equipment that you can buy. 499 00:27:05,582 --> 00:27:10,712 But the reality is that getting babies to sleep is just really hard, 500 00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:15,425 and we can fall into this trap of trying to buy our way out of the hard times. 501 00:27:15,508 --> 00:27:19,304 And it's… it's often not very successful and very expensive. 502 00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:22,515 [T.K.] I actually think the best way to know if you have too many things 503 00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:25,852 isn't by waiting to see if you run out of room to keep them, 504 00:27:25,935 --> 00:27:30,231 but asking yourself if you've run out of purposeful things to do with them. 505 00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:32,609 When you've run out of purposeful things to do with things, 506 00:27:32,692 --> 00:27:35,862 even if you only have one thing, you already have too many things. 507 00:27:35,945 --> 00:27:40,784 The reason we are so depressed and so empty when we have so much 508 00:27:41,534 --> 00:27:45,413 is that if you get more of the wrong thing, it becomes less. 509 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,999 There are deeper things that… that fulfill us. 510 00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:50,210 Our need for meaning, our need for progress, 511 00:27:50,293 --> 00:27:52,003 our need for intimacy. 512 00:27:52,629 --> 00:27:55,131 The reason the message of minimalism is so powerful 513 00:27:55,215 --> 00:27:59,052 is because we're bingeing on all the wrong things, 514 00:27:59,594 --> 00:28:03,098 and we're dying of hunger for the things that really matter. 515 00:28:06,976 --> 00:28:10,438 But, of course, most of us aren't hoarders, right? 516 00:28:11,856 --> 00:28:12,941 No. 517 00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:14,943 We just hold on to a lot of stuff. 518 00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:17,445 We hold on to a lifetime of collected memories. 519 00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:22,200 I know Mom certainly did, and I had no idea what to do with any of it. 520 00:28:25,161 --> 00:28:27,580 So I did what any good son would do. 521 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,958 I called U-Haul. 522 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,628 I called U-Haul, and I asked for the largest truck they had. 523 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:36,548 In fact, I needed one so large I had to wait an extra day 524 00:28:36,631 --> 00:28:39,175 until the 26-foot truck was available. 525 00:28:39,259 --> 00:28:42,721 As I waited for that U-Haul to arrive, I invited some of Mom's friends over 526 00:28:42,804 --> 00:28:44,597 to help me sort through her stuff. 527 00:28:44,681 --> 00:28:49,728 I mean, there was just too much stuff to go at it alone. 528 00:28:50,395 --> 00:28:53,440 Her living room was stuffed with big antique furniture, 529 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:55,108 and old paintings, 530 00:28:55,191 --> 00:28:57,777 and more doilies than I could count. 531 00:28:57,861 --> 00:28:59,320 And her kitchen was stuffed 532 00:28:59,404 --> 00:29:01,698 with hundreds of plates, and cups, and bowls, 533 00:29:01,781 --> 00:29:03,992 and ill-assorted utensils. 534 00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:06,494 And her bathroom was stuffed 535 00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:10,498 with enough makeup, and face creams, and hygiene products 536 00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,001 to start a small beauty supply business. 537 00:29:13,084 --> 00:29:16,588 And it looked like someone was running a hotel out of her linen closet, 538 00:29:16,671 --> 00:29:19,799 which was stuffed with mismatched bath towels, 539 00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:21,926 beach towels, and dish towels. 540 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:24,429 Don't even get me started on Mom's bedroom. 541 00:29:24,512 --> 00:29:29,267 I mean, why did Mom have 14 winter coats stuffed into her bedroom closet? 542 00:29:29,809 --> 00:29:33,271 Come on. She lived in St. Pete Beach. 543 00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:40,361 So anyway, there I was attempting to finish packing all of Mom's stuff 544 00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:42,906 when I looked under her bed. 545 00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:51,623 I noticed these four boxes, these old printer paper boxes. 546 00:29:51,706 --> 00:29:52,707 Kind of heavy, 547 00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:55,084 sealed with excessive amounts of packing tape. 548 00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:57,670 I noticed each box was labeled 549 00:29:57,754 --> 00:30:00,757 with just a number written on the side in thick black marker. 550 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:02,926 And I stood there… 551 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,677 looking down… 552 00:30:05,887 --> 00:30:09,224 wondering what could possibly be inside those boxes. 553 00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:16,856 Turns out it was my old elementary school paperwork. 554 00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:19,776 Grades one through four. 555 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:23,321 As I opened those boxes, my curiosity ran wild, 556 00:30:23,404 --> 00:30:27,325 and I thought to myself, "Why was Mom holding on to all that stupid paperwork?" 557 00:30:28,076 --> 00:30:31,704 But then all these memories came rushing back, and it was obvious. 558 00:30:34,582 --> 00:30:37,460 Mom had been holding on to a piece of me. 559 00:30:38,044 --> 00:30:41,589 Mom was holding on to all the memories inside those boxes. Right? 560 00:30:41,673 --> 00:30:42,799 But wait a minute. 561 00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:45,760 Those boxes had been sealed for more than two decades. 562 00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:50,849 It was clear Mom hadn't been accessing any of the memories inside those boxes, 563 00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:54,394 which helped me understand something important for the first time. 564 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,231 Our memories are not in our things. 565 00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:01,317 Our memories are inside us. 566 00:31:01,401 --> 00:31:03,736 You see, Mom didn't need to hold on to those boxes 567 00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:05,238 to hold on to a piece of me. 568 00:31:05,905 --> 00:31:07,699 I was never inside those boxes. 569 00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:12,412 But then I looked around her apartment, I looked around at all her stuff, 570 00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:15,623 and I realized I was getting ready to do the same thing. 571 00:31:15,707 --> 00:31:17,458 If I'm being honest with myself, 572 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:20,503 I was just gonna selfishly cling to most of Mom's stuff. 573 00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:23,172 But, of course, I wasn't gonna get any real value from it 574 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:25,425 as it sat there locked away in perpetuity. 575 00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:27,468 But the truth is that, by letting go, 576 00:31:27,552 --> 00:31:29,929 I realized I could add value to other people's lives. 577 00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:34,601 So I donated most of her stuff to her friends and to local charities, 578 00:31:34,684 --> 00:31:37,478 finding the stuff a new home. 579 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:39,439 And the few items I was able to sell, 580 00:31:39,522 --> 00:31:42,233 I was able to take that money and donate it to the two charities 581 00:31:42,317 --> 00:31:45,278 that helped Mom through her chemo and radiation. 582 00:31:46,195 --> 00:31:51,034 You see, I realized I could contribute beyond myself 583 00:31:51,117 --> 00:31:53,119 if I was willing to let go. 584 00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:56,497 When I finally returned to Ohio, 585 00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:59,918 I returned with just a handful of sentimental items. 586 00:32:00,001 --> 00:32:02,670 An old painting, a few photographs, 587 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:04,589 maybe even a doily or two, 588 00:32:04,672 --> 00:32:08,009 which helped me understand that by having fewer sentimental items, 589 00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:11,304 we're able to enjoy those sentimental items much more. 590 00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:14,265 I get far more value from the few items I kept 591 00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:18,561 than if I were to water them down with dozens or even hundreds of trinkets. 592 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:22,732 Ultimately, I had to let go of what was weighing me down 593 00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:24,233 before I could move on. 594 00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:25,693 To move on… 595 00:32:26,569 --> 00:32:29,572 I had to take an inventory of my own life. 596 00:32:31,741 --> 00:32:35,078 Turns out I had an organized life. 597 00:32:35,662 --> 00:32:38,748 But really, I was just a well-organized hoarder. 598 00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:40,792 And if you would've looked beneath the surface, 599 00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:43,878 you would have found a lifetime of unchecked consumption. 600 00:32:44,504 --> 00:32:46,297 As companies continue to innovate, 601 00:32:46,381 --> 00:32:49,592 our ability to show restraint is getting more and more difficult. 602 00:32:49,676 --> 00:32:50,885 Outsourced labor 603 00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:54,597 combined with advancements in shipping, manufacturing, and logistics 604 00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:58,226 has dropped the cost of consumer products to an all-time low. 605 00:32:58,309 --> 00:33:01,980 And now, with one-click purchasing, same-day delivery, 606 00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:04,857 and a society that has normalized credit card debt, 607 00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:06,901 we've dug ourselves into a hole. 608 00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:10,905 The average American carries four credit cards in their wallet 609 00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,992 and the average credit card debt for indebted households 610 00:33:14,075 --> 00:33:16,661 is more than $16,000. 611 00:33:16,744 --> 00:33:20,915 Each year, we spend more on shoes, jewelry, and watches 612 00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:22,667 than on higher education. 613 00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:26,629 [Denaye] I remember when I was a kid, there was something called layaway. 614 00:33:26,713 --> 00:33:29,465 We'd go to the department store and pick out our school clothes, 615 00:33:29,549 --> 00:33:30,967 and my mom would put it on layaway, 616 00:33:31,050 --> 00:33:34,429 which meant she would go and make payments once a week for several weeks 617 00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:37,432 until she paid all of it off when she had all the money paid in. 618 00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:39,434 That's when we got to bring home the stuff. 619 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:42,687 This concept does not exist now. If you want the stuff, 620 00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:44,939 you put the credit card down and take it right away. 621 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:48,484 And I think that functional change in the way that we buy 622 00:33:48,568 --> 00:33:51,738 has made a difference in what our expectations are 623 00:33:51,821 --> 00:33:54,574 and a sort of sense of entitlement about what we should have, 624 00:33:54,657 --> 00:33:57,994 and when we should have it, and if we should have to wait for it. 625 00:33:58,077 --> 00:34:02,373 [Dave] America, sadly, has gotten increasingly emotionally immature. 626 00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:04,876 "I want it, and I want it now, 627 00:34:04,959 --> 00:34:07,128 and I deserve it because I breathe air." 628 00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:10,339 This is a four-year-old child in the cereal aisle 629 00:34:10,423 --> 00:34:12,633 throwing a fit because they can't have Froot Loops. 630 00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:16,888 And yet it's a 54-year-old woman I'm talking to or man I'm talking to, 631 00:34:16,971 --> 00:34:19,265 'cause he can't buy this little item he wants, 632 00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:21,267 'cause he doesn't have the money. 633 00:34:21,350 --> 00:34:25,354 Guess what? You're never gonna have the money for everything you want. 634 00:34:26,105 --> 00:34:29,942 [T.K.] The kind of debt that creates the most problems in our society 635 00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:34,072 comes from a felt need to keep up with appearances. 636 00:34:34,155 --> 00:34:40,286 Placing unnecessary burdens on yourself in order to maintain some kind of image. 637 00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:43,414 If I can't afford a BMW, 638 00:34:43,498 --> 00:34:46,626 but I go into debt in order to acquire one, 639 00:34:46,709 --> 00:34:50,296 I'm doing that because I-I want the… the social rewards, right, 640 00:34:50,379 --> 00:34:53,508 of… of being seen as a certain kind of person. 641 00:34:53,591 --> 00:34:55,510 Once your basic needs are met, 642 00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:58,805 the way that we as humans determine what is enough 643 00:34:58,888 --> 00:35:01,140 is relative to the people around us. 644 00:35:01,224 --> 00:35:04,602 Um, and so, that's where the saying "keeping up with the Joneses" came up. 645 00:35:04,685 --> 00:35:07,313 We judge our furniture, our clothes, our car 646 00:35:07,396 --> 00:35:09,398 based on the people around us. 647 00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:13,486 It used to be that the people around us were of similar socioeconomic background. 648 00:35:13,569 --> 00:35:16,114 So we were like, "It's cool. We all got the same stuff." 649 00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:19,742 But now, with the onslaught of television and social media, 650 00:35:19,826 --> 00:35:23,329 they have what's called the vertical expansion of our reference group. 651 00:35:23,412 --> 00:35:26,332 Now I'm comparing my hair to Jennifer Aniston's. 652 00:35:26,415 --> 00:35:28,709 Now I'm comparing my house to Kim Kardashian's. 653 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:33,214 I think that we are more stressed and discontented today than ever before, 654 00:35:33,297 --> 00:35:36,592 because we know so much more, or we think we know so much more, 655 00:35:36,676 --> 00:35:40,388 about what's going on inside of the house of our neighbors and our friends. 656 00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:44,851 And the comparison is so much stronger than in generations past, 657 00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:48,771 and we're constantly comparing our lives to other people's lives. 658 00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:51,524 And when we do that, it rarely measures up. 659 00:35:51,607 --> 00:35:53,860 This generation, more than previous generations, 660 00:35:53,943 --> 00:35:55,695 we have to learn how to manage our attention, 661 00:35:55,778 --> 00:35:58,906 because there are so many people competing for it 662 00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:02,034 and telling us, like, "Look at this, and you'll be happy!" 663 00:36:02,118 --> 00:36:03,995 "Buy this, and you'll be happy!" 664 00:36:04,078 --> 00:36:07,290 And you have to step back from all of that and say, "No, no, no. 665 00:36:07,373 --> 00:36:09,208 I first need time 666 00:36:09,292 --> 00:36:12,461 to come up with my own ideas about what's gonna make me happy." 667 00:36:14,922 --> 00:36:17,175 For me, it all started with that one question. 668 00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:21,387 How might your life be better with less? 669 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:25,308 By answering that question, I was able to identify the purpose of minimalism. 670 00:36:25,391 --> 00:36:29,687 Not just the "how to," but the more important "why to." 671 00:36:29,770 --> 00:36:31,606 I realized, if I simplified my life, 672 00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:35,318 I'd have more time for my health, my relationships, 673 00:36:35,401 --> 00:36:37,403 my creativity, my finances, 674 00:36:37,486 --> 00:36:41,032 and I could contribute beyond myself in a meaningful way. 675 00:36:41,115 --> 00:36:44,911 You see, I was able to understand the benefits of minimalism 676 00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:47,830 well before I ever cleaned out a walk-in closet. 677 00:36:47,914 --> 00:36:52,376 And so, when it came time for me to actually declutter, I started small. 678 00:36:52,460 --> 00:36:54,378 I asked myself another question. 679 00:36:54,462 --> 00:36:57,798 What if you removed one material possession from your life 680 00:36:57,882 --> 00:37:00,718 each day for a month? Just one. What would happen? 681 00:37:01,344 --> 00:37:05,473 Let me tell you. I got rid of way more than 30 items in the first 30 days. 682 00:37:05,556 --> 00:37:07,516 Like way, way more. 683 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,520 It became this kind of personal challenge, discovering what I could get rid of. 684 00:37:11,604 --> 00:37:15,483 So I searched my rooms and closets, my cabinets and hallways, 685 00:37:15,566 --> 00:37:17,235 my car and office, 686 00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:19,403 rummaging for items to part with, 687 00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:23,324 retaining only the things that added value to my life. 688 00:37:24,575 --> 00:37:27,161 Pondering each artifact in my home, I'd ask, 689 00:37:27,662 --> 00:37:30,039 "Does this thing add value to my life?" 690 00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:33,834 The more I asked this question, the more I gained momentum 691 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:36,879 and embracing minimalism got easier by the day. 692 00:37:37,588 --> 00:37:40,925 The more you do it, the freer, and happier, and lighter you feel, 693 00:37:41,008 --> 00:37:42,551 and the more you wanna throw overboard. 694 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:45,304 For me, a few shirts led to half a closet. 695 00:37:45,388 --> 00:37:50,476 A few DVDs led to deep-sixing an entire library of unused discs. 696 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:51,936 A few decorative items 697 00:37:52,019 --> 00:37:54,814 led to junk drawers who shed their adjective. 698 00:37:54,897 --> 00:37:59,318 It's a beautiful cycle. The more action you take, the more you wanna take action. 699 00:38:00,695 --> 00:38:03,197 Once I started to get rid of stuff, 700 00:38:03,281 --> 00:38:05,491 it was just like the momentum just took over. 701 00:38:05,574 --> 00:38:08,452 It was a snowball that I could not stop. 702 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:11,455 I was ready to throw out as many things as possible. 703 00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:15,042 [Rechna] When you open up those drawers and look at what's in the back of them, 704 00:38:15,126 --> 00:38:17,003 I don't think I even realized 705 00:38:17,086 --> 00:38:20,548 half the stuff that we had hidden away in closets and in drawers. 706 00:38:20,631 --> 00:38:24,593 [Victor] It… It really helped by focusing on just one part of the house, 707 00:38:24,677 --> 00:38:25,928 instead of just thinking, 708 00:38:26,012 --> 00:38:30,141 "Oh, wow, I have 35 years of things in my house that I need to get rid of." 709 00:38:30,224 --> 00:38:33,019 [Michael] We got rid of our storage rental. 710 00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:35,980 A huge storage rental that we'd been paying for for years 711 00:38:36,063 --> 00:38:38,691 and didn't really even know what was in there, gone. 712 00:38:38,774 --> 00:38:41,610 I remember going through my CD collection, 713 00:38:41,694 --> 00:38:45,614 and I couldn't even remember if I had a CD player in my car. 714 00:38:45,698 --> 00:38:49,076 That was the one thing that made me think, "That's probably a reason 715 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,581 for me not to hold on to these CDs anymore if I don't even know if I can play them." 716 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:56,625 As I began to get rid of things, 717 00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:00,629 one at a time, I just felt so much freer. 718 00:39:00,713 --> 00:39:01,797 There was freedom. 719 00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:04,967 When I started going through it, I got rid of 14 pairs of pants. 720 00:39:05,051 --> 00:39:06,635 I couldn't believe how high the stack was. 721 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,680 And so, I actually, you know, went through and counted them, 722 00:39:09,764 --> 00:39:12,516 and I'm like, "14 pairs of pants sitting in the closet!" 723 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,143 [Michael] We put our house up for sale, 724 00:39:14,226 --> 00:39:17,146 because we just wanted to really start fresh 725 00:39:17,229 --> 00:39:19,690 and just grab life, you know, and… 726 00:39:19,774 --> 00:39:20,733 and really be free. 727 00:39:20,816 --> 00:39:24,570 It was a very freeing feeling, um, to just get started, 728 00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:26,405 and so I… I ran with it. 729 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,536 [Joshua] Over the course of eight months after my mother died, 730 00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:36,916 I deliberately jettisoned more than 90% of my material possessions. 731 00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:40,920 Although, if you visited my home today, you probably wouldn't walk in and say, 732 00:39:41,837 --> 00:39:42,755 "Oh, my God! 733 00:39:44,173 --> 00:39:45,800 This guy's a minimalist!" 734 00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:51,180 No, you'd probably just ask how we keep things so organized, 735 00:39:51,764 --> 00:39:54,850 and I'd just tell you that my family and I, we don't own much, 736 00:39:54,934 --> 00:39:58,354 but everything we do own adds real value to our lives. 737 00:39:58,437 --> 00:40:00,398 Each of our belongings, 738 00:40:00,481 --> 00:40:04,193 our clothes, our car, our kitchenware, our furniture 739 00:40:04,276 --> 00:40:05,403 has a function. 740 00:40:05,945 --> 00:40:09,073 As a minimalist, every possession serves a purpose 741 00:40:09,156 --> 00:40:12,410 or it brings me joy, and everything else is out of the way. 742 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:14,787 With all that clutter cleared, I… 743 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:18,082 I finally felt compelled to start asking deeper questions. 744 00:40:18,707 --> 00:40:22,086 Questions like, "When did I give so much meaning 745 00:40:22,169 --> 00:40:23,921 to all these material possessions? 746 00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:26,799 What is truly important in my life? 747 00:40:27,716 --> 00:40:29,468 Why have I been so discontented? 748 00:40:30,261 --> 00:40:34,598 Who is the person I want to become, and how will I define my own success?" 749 00:40:35,182 --> 00:40:39,145 Now, these… these are tough questions with difficult answers, 750 00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:43,524 but they've proven to be more important than just trashing my excess stuff. 751 00:40:43,607 --> 00:40:47,945 And if we don't answer these questions carefully, rigorously… 752 00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:51,615 then those closets that we just decluttered 753 00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:54,952 will be brimming with new purchases in the not-too-distant future. 754 00:40:56,579 --> 00:40:57,663 So, as I let go… 755 00:40:58,581 --> 00:41:01,917 and as I started facing some of life's tougher questions… 756 00:41:03,043 --> 00:41:05,171 my life got simpler. 757 00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:08,591 The people around me noticed something was different too. 758 00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,428 My best friend, a guy named Ryan Nicodemus, 759 00:41:12,511 --> 00:41:15,222 whom I've known since we were fat little fifth-graders… 760 00:41:15,931 --> 00:41:18,476 -he came to me one day and said… -[thunder rumbles] 761 00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,478 [Joshua] "Why the hell are you so happy?" 762 00:41:21,812 --> 00:41:23,731 So I told him about this thing called minimalism. 763 00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:27,610 And he said, "What the hell is minimalism?" 764 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:32,740 And so I said, "Minimalism is the thing that gets us past the things, 765 00:41:32,823 --> 00:41:35,868 so we can make room for life's most important things, 766 00:41:35,951 --> 00:41:39,580 which actually aren't things at all. 767 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:41,499 You know what, Ryan? 768 00:41:41,582 --> 00:41:44,835 I think you might benefit from this minimalism thing too, because… 769 00:41:46,462 --> 00:41:49,006 Well, because you've got a lot of shit." 770 00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:53,594 [engine turns over] 771 00:41:53,677 --> 00:41:55,554 [Ryan] That's when I remember really… 772 00:41:56,222 --> 00:41:59,475 really looking at what you were doing different with your life. 773 00:41:59,558 --> 00:42:03,020 Like, I had to find out, like, "Okay, what is Josh doing differently?" 774 00:42:03,103 --> 00:42:06,524 Because my life was so out of control. I needed to make a change. 775 00:42:06,607 --> 00:42:08,943 You obviously had made some changes, so that's… 776 00:42:09,026 --> 00:42:12,738 I remember that's when I invited you for that really fancy lunch at Subway. 777 00:42:12,821 --> 00:42:15,533 -Yeah. [chuckles] -And, uh, we sat down and… 778 00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:17,701 had… had our sandwiches, 779 00:42:17,785 --> 00:42:21,497 and I just remember asking you, like, "Why the hell are you so happy?" 780 00:42:21,997 --> 00:42:24,667 And, you know, if it wasn't you 781 00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:27,002 -who told me about minimalism… -[Joshua] Uh-huh. 782 00:42:27,086 --> 00:42:30,506 [Ryan] If it was anyone else, I don't know if I would have been so quick 783 00:42:31,006 --> 00:42:33,759 to be willing to try it out. 784 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,971 As we were sitting there, having our lunch, 785 00:42:37,763 --> 00:42:41,267 he talked about how he'd spent the last several months simplifying. 786 00:42:42,142 --> 00:42:43,310 Clearing the clutter. 787 00:42:43,894 --> 00:42:46,981 Making room for life's most important things. 788 00:42:47,064 --> 00:42:50,025 So me, being the problem solver that I am, 789 00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:53,404 I decided to become a minimalist right there on the spot. 790 00:42:53,487 --> 00:42:55,948 I looked up at Josh, and I excitedly announced, 791 00:42:56,448 --> 00:43:01,203 "All right, man, I'm in. I'll do it! I'm going to become a minimalist. 792 00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:04,081 Now what?" 793 00:43:04,164 --> 00:43:06,625 You see, I didn't want to spend several months 794 00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:09,169 slowly paring down, like he had. 795 00:43:09,253 --> 00:43:13,007 I mean, that was great for him, but I wanted faster results. 796 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:16,427 So, we came up with a wild idea called a packing party. 797 00:43:17,261 --> 00:43:20,723 We decided to pack all my belongings as if I were moving. 798 00:43:20,806 --> 00:43:25,686 Then I would unpack only the items I needed over the next three weeks. 799 00:43:25,769 --> 00:43:29,773 So Josh came over, and he literally helped me box up everything. 800 00:43:29,857 --> 00:43:33,777 My clothes, my kitchenware, my towels, my TVs, 801 00:43:33,861 --> 00:43:37,615 my electronics, my framed photographs and paintings, my toiletries. 802 00:43:37,698 --> 00:43:41,493 Everything. We literally pretended like I was moving. 803 00:43:41,577 --> 00:43:45,122 So after nine hours and a couple of pizza deliveries, 804 00:43:45,205 --> 00:43:48,792 there Josh and I were, sitting in my second living room, 805 00:43:48,876 --> 00:43:52,880 staring at these boxes stacked halfway to my 12 ft. ceiling. 806 00:43:52,963 --> 00:43:54,506 Everything I owned, 807 00:43:55,007 --> 00:43:58,844 everything I had worked so hard for over the last decade, 808 00:43:58,927 --> 00:44:00,971 it was all sitting there in that room. 809 00:44:01,055 --> 00:44:05,476 Just boxes stacked on top of boxes stacked on top of boxes. 810 00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:08,437 Now each box was labeled really well 811 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,023 so I'd know where to go when I needed a particular item. 812 00:44:11,106 --> 00:44:13,192 Labels like "junk drawer," 813 00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:14,985 "living room number one," 814 00:44:15,069 --> 00:44:16,278 "kitchen utensils," 815 00:44:16,362 --> 00:44:17,946 "junk drawer number seven." 816 00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:22,910 I spent the next 21 days unpacking only the items I needed. 817 00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:25,412 My toothbrush, my bed and bed sheets, 818 00:44:25,496 --> 00:44:27,039 some clothes for work, 819 00:44:27,122 --> 00:44:29,124 the furniture I actually used, 820 00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:30,376 a tool set, 821 00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:31,502 some kitchenware. 822 00:44:31,585 --> 00:44:35,297 Just the things that added value to my life. 823 00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:37,007 After three weeks… 824 00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:40,052 I had 80% of my stuff 825 00:44:40,135 --> 00:44:43,055 still sitting in those boxes. 826 00:44:43,138 --> 00:44:46,308 Just sitting there, un-accessed. 827 00:44:47,017 --> 00:44:48,727 You know, I looked at those boxes… 828 00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:51,438 I couldn't even remember what was in most of 'em. 829 00:44:52,314 --> 00:44:55,859 All those things I brought into my life to make me happy… 830 00:44:57,027 --> 00:44:58,612 they weren't doing their job. 831 00:44:58,696 --> 00:45:01,699 So that's when I decided to let go. And you know what? 832 00:45:02,741 --> 00:45:06,203 I started to feel free for the first time in my life. 833 00:45:06,787 --> 00:45:08,288 I got my time back. 834 00:45:09,415 --> 00:45:10,749 I got my life back. 835 00:45:11,667 --> 00:45:14,086 And as I changed my life, 836 00:45:14,169 --> 00:45:17,256 I was focused on community, not consumerism. 837 00:45:18,048 --> 00:45:20,008 Giving, not taking. 838 00:45:21,051 --> 00:45:22,928 People, not stuff. 839 00:45:23,637 --> 00:45:27,975 It just made us really, you know, reassess our lives, 840 00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:30,352 reassess our goals and our commitments. 841 00:45:30,436 --> 00:45:36,442 Friends, and family, and colleagues have acknowledged a profound change in me. 842 00:45:36,525 --> 00:45:38,318 It's given me the opportunity 843 00:45:38,402 --> 00:45:42,197 to be that person that I used to just talk about being. 844 00:45:42,281 --> 00:45:46,326 Because of the way that my values have really been reorganized, 845 00:45:46,869 --> 00:45:50,122 I am grateful for every single second. 846 00:45:50,706 --> 00:45:53,917 Really, I began to find myself again. 847 00:45:54,668 --> 00:45:58,213 And for that, I am so thankful. 848 00:45:58,297 --> 00:45:59,423 Minimalism… 849 00:46:01,008 --> 00:46:02,384 it changed my life. 850 00:46:02,468 --> 00:46:05,888 This emotion washed over me. You know, it was really overwhelming. 851 00:46:05,971 --> 00:46:11,477 And it was this feeling of great abundance, you know. 852 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,147 Like an abundance where everything is fine. 853 00:46:15,230 --> 00:46:18,066 You have everything that you need, all is well. 854 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:19,359 And I don't think I'd… 855 00:46:20,486 --> 00:46:22,780 I get emotional thinking back to it, right. 856 00:46:22,863 --> 00:46:24,156 [sniffles] Um… 857 00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:28,869 I don't think I had that feeling since I was maybe four or five years old, so… 858 00:46:30,287 --> 00:46:34,082 This just deep knowing, you know, that all I wanted, 859 00:46:34,166 --> 00:46:36,543 you know, all I was searching for, all I needed… 860 00:46:37,419 --> 00:46:38,462 I already had it. 861 00:46:40,798 --> 00:46:43,342 [Ryan] A little over a year after my packing party experiment, 862 00:46:43,425 --> 00:46:45,636 something unexpected happened. 863 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,596 My boss called me on a Friday morning 864 00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,432 and told me to drive down to Cincinnati that afternoon 865 00:46:50,516 --> 00:46:53,227 to meet him at the company's Human Resources office. 866 00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:56,104 I walked into the conference room and saw my boss 867 00:46:56,188 --> 00:46:59,650 and someone from HR sitting on the other side of the conference table. 868 00:46:59,733 --> 00:47:01,568 My boss shook his head. 869 00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:03,654 "We've eliminated your position 870 00:47:03,737 --> 00:47:05,948 with the latest round of cuts," my boss said. 871 00:47:06,031 --> 00:47:08,492 "This change, it's effective immediately." 872 00:47:08,575 --> 00:47:11,912 After seven promotions in less than a decade, 873 00:47:11,995 --> 00:47:13,956 I was laid off with no notice. 874 00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:16,500 And then I was surprised by my next thought. 875 00:47:17,167 --> 00:47:19,920 "Isn't this the best thing that could have happened?" 876 00:47:20,003 --> 00:47:22,756 It was like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders. 877 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,300 I knew it was time for me to move on, 878 00:47:25,384 --> 00:47:27,344 and this was the nudge I needed. 879 00:47:27,427 --> 00:47:29,346 My entire perspective had changed. 880 00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:33,183 And then I thought to myself, "There might be some people out there 881 00:47:33,267 --> 00:47:35,310 who would find value in my story. 882 00:47:35,894 --> 00:47:38,438 Who would find value in our story." 883 00:47:39,273 --> 00:47:43,902 So Josh and I, we decided to do what any two 30-year-old dudes would do. 884 00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:46,113 We started a blog. 885 00:47:47,281 --> 00:47:48,615 That was a decade ago. 886 00:47:48,699 --> 00:47:51,159 And you know what? Something amazing happened. 887 00:47:51,243 --> 00:47:55,038 Fifty-two people visited our website in the first month. 888 00:47:55,122 --> 00:47:57,916 I realize that might sound unremarkable at first, 889 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,460 but Josh and I, we were excited. 890 00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:03,130 And then other remarkable things started happening. 891 00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:07,634 Fifty-two readers turned into 500, 500 turned into 5,000 892 00:48:07,718 --> 00:48:09,595 and now we have the privilege 893 00:48:09,678 --> 00:48:13,181 of sharing our message with millions of people every year. 894 00:48:13,265 --> 00:48:15,767 It turns out, when you add value to people's lives, 895 00:48:15,851 --> 00:48:19,563 they're pretty eager to share your story with their friends and family 896 00:48:19,646 --> 00:48:21,690 to add value to their lives. 897 00:48:22,524 --> 00:48:24,526 It's fitting that we're back here. 898 00:48:24,610 --> 00:48:28,614 Not just in Dayton, but here at Press, at this coffee shop, 899 00:48:28,697 --> 00:48:31,074 because this is where it literally started for us. 900 00:48:31,158 --> 00:48:33,285 Even back when we were in the corporate world, 901 00:48:33,368 --> 00:48:36,455 you and I would meet here, and this was our place for creation. 902 00:48:36,538 --> 00:48:41,877 It was almost like we required this extra space outside of the corporate world, 903 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,254 outside of our cluttered personal lives, 904 00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:49,384 to come here, to figure out how to create, how to simplify our lives. 905 00:48:49,468 --> 00:48:52,429 To take this sort of feeling that we were experiencing 906 00:48:52,512 --> 00:48:54,389 and get it down onto the page. 907 00:48:55,057 --> 00:48:58,769 [Erwin] I think we should all be allowed to Etch A Sketch our life and say, 908 00:48:58,852 --> 00:49:01,313 "I thought this is the life I wanted, but it's not, 909 00:49:01,396 --> 00:49:03,148 and so I'm gonna start over again." 910 00:49:03,231 --> 00:49:06,485 If you have a longing, and a dream, and a passion inside of you, 911 00:49:07,277 --> 00:49:10,781 why hold on to what you used to do and who you used to be 912 00:49:11,406 --> 00:49:14,701 and… and lose who you want to become? 913 00:49:14,785 --> 00:49:17,621 No matter where we're at on our journey towards less, 914 00:49:17,704 --> 00:49:20,457 we are always going to be pulled in that direction. 915 00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:24,836 The direction of comparison, the direction of being overwhelmed by the media. 916 00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:28,674 And the truth is we have to constantly refocus ourselves. 917 00:49:28,757 --> 00:49:31,385 We make life unnecessarily complicated 918 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:35,514 because we overlook or underestimate 919 00:49:35,597 --> 00:49:38,433 the… the sense of direction that can come 920 00:49:38,517 --> 00:49:42,270 from just taking a little time to sit alone with ourselves, 921 00:49:42,354 --> 00:49:43,897 to sit in the quiet and say, 922 00:49:43,981 --> 00:49:46,858 "I'm not gonna get my ideas about what a good life is 923 00:49:46,942 --> 00:49:49,611 from external sources of stimulation. 924 00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:53,281 I'm gonna listen to that inner voice and see where that's guiding me." 925 00:49:53,365 --> 00:49:57,411 [Erwin] If people could just make a decision to be fully alive, 926 00:49:57,494 --> 00:50:01,707 if they could just get rid of everything that's sucking the life out of their soul, 927 00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:04,126 that's when you're gonna find your passion. 928 00:50:04,209 --> 00:50:07,504 But your passion will never be about yourself. 929 00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:12,009 Your passion will always be about some good you can do in the world. 930 00:50:13,260 --> 00:50:16,471 That's why Josh and I are right here right now. 931 00:50:16,555 --> 00:50:18,974 We really hope we can add value to your life 932 00:50:19,057 --> 00:50:20,684 by encouraging you to let go. 933 00:50:21,184 --> 00:50:23,020 To imagine a life with more. 934 00:50:23,562 --> 00:50:26,565 More time, more meaningful relationships, 935 00:50:26,648 --> 00:50:29,735 more growth, and contribution, and contentment. 936 00:50:29,818 --> 00:50:31,653 A life of passion, 937 00:50:31,737 --> 00:50:35,282 unencumbered by the trappings of the chaotic world around you. 938 00:50:36,575 --> 00:50:39,911 What you're imagining is an intentional life. 939 00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:42,330 Not a perfect life. 940 00:50:42,914 --> 00:50:44,124 Not even an easy life. 941 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,001 But a simple one. 942 00:50:46,918 --> 00:50:51,798 And to get there, you might have to let go of some stuff that's in the way. 943 00:50:53,175 --> 00:50:57,137 ♪ Clearing space I found a moment taking shape ♪ 944 00:50:58,472 --> 00:51:02,601 ♪ Collect the memories We put them into frames ♪ 945 00:51:03,852 --> 00:51:07,022 ♪ The beauty of our day-to-day ♪ 946 00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:13,445 ♪ Hung on walls inside this home we built The life that we had made ♪ 947 00:51:18,158 --> 00:51:22,245 ♪ You kept my childhood In a box beneath your bed ♪ 948 00:51:23,497 --> 00:51:27,584 ♪ My teenage years Upon some shelves inside the shed ♪ 949 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,922 ♪ My crayon portraits on your fridge ♪ 950 00:51:33,090 --> 00:51:35,467 ♪ You saved every souvenir ♪ 951 00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:38,220 ♪ 'Cause you were scared You would forget ♪ 952 00:51:41,348 --> 00:51:43,934 ♪ You kept all of my stuff ♪ 953 00:51:46,228 --> 00:51:49,439 ♪ As if your love wasn't enough ♪ 954 00:51:52,984 --> 00:51:58,490 ♪ But I always knew your love for me Was something glorious ♪ 955 00:52:02,327 --> 00:52:03,954 ♪ Glorious ♪ 956 00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:12,712 ♪ Want to make my life A monument to you and me ♪ 957 00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:18,051 ♪ The everlasting us The unrelenting we ♪ 958 00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:22,556 ♪ And when my body turns to dust ♪ 959 00:52:24,057 --> 00:52:29,187 ♪ Remember that my love for you Was something glorious ♪ 960 00:52:33,024 --> 00:52:34,568 ♪ Glorious ♪ 961 00:52:38,321 --> 00:52:40,198 ♪ Glorious ♪