1 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:11,200 WOMAN: I went into a stash house. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,680 I seen that money stacked up to the ceiling. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,840 That's when I really knew how big they were. 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:24,160 ♪ ♪ 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,280 WOMAN: Did I know that there was ecstasy being sold? Yes. 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,200 Was I involved in maybe some of the talks? Yes. 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:36,000 ♪ ♪ 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,440 ♪ ♪ 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,000 MAN: Griselda entrepreneured the cocaine industry 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,240 as we know it. 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,800 From the jungle, to the street corner, 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,400 to the nightclub, to your household. 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,440 My mother did that. 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:58,160 ♪ ♪ 15 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,640 MAN: Shake this square world and blast off for Kicksville. 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,440 RICHARD NIXON: Public enemy number one is drug abuse. 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,080 NANCY REAGAN: Just say no. 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,080 RONALD REAGAN: Halting the drug problem in America 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,360 is like carrying water in a sieve. 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,680 GEORGE H. W. BUSH: Take my word for it, this scourge will stop! 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,160 KAMALA HARRIS: There's now an understanding 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,400 that the war on drugs was an abject failure. 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,040 MAN: You have to stop and ask yourself, how did we get here? 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,720 DONALD TRUMP: We will build a wall. 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,200 ♪ ♪ 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:42,160 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,840 (thunder) 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:52,640 ♪ ♪ 29 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,920 ♪ ♪ 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,320 MICHAEL CORLEONE BLANCO: My mother grew up 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,800 in this part of town, 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,640 which was the only place that you could actually smoke reefer, 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,840 you know, have a couple drinks, 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,360 bet a little on numbers, watch rooster fights, 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,640 and maybe go and have a good time with a prostitute. 36 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:14,240 I'm talking about 1950s. 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,240 There were still muddy streets, horse-drawn carriages. 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,160 My name is Michael Corleone Blanco. 39 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,480 I'm the youngest surviving son of one Griselda Blanco. 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,760 Also known as the Queen of Cocaine. 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,960 (dog barks) 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,200 She told me that she remembered being so poor, 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,080 she didn't have no shoes or sandals. 44 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,120 And my mother said to herself, the day I have children 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,880 I'm gonna make sure they live in the lap of luxury. 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,480 The neighborhood was divided 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,960 between these two local street gangs, 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,440 and she started to date a kid 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,840 from the other part of the neighborhood, Pestañitas. 50 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Pestañitas ran bootlegging, he ran a couple prostitutes, 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,640 sold some weed, and he met this little girl. 52 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:07,320 She was 14 when she fell in love with him. 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,080 They got married, and he introduced her to marijuana. 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,680 They'd been drug dealing together, right. 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,200 ♪ ♪ 56 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,360 They were getting money, but Pestañitas told my mother, 57 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,200 "We're making peanuts here. 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,960 If we can get this weed to New York, 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,440 we could make a big load of money." 60 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,800 (horns honking) 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,040 (siren) 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,440 So they relocate to New York, 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,800 and they start doing deals in New York. 64 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 When they start making serious money, 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,280 my mother goes back to Colombia 66 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,360 and she meets a gentleman who was a club owner, 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,960 and the gentleman tells her, 68 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,000 "You might want to think about this drug called cocaine." 69 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,800 REPORTER: This is Jackson Heights 70 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,320 in the borough of Queens. 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,800 It's one of the places where cocaine 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 comes home to the United States. 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,880 ♪ ♪ 74 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,160 BLANCO: In the early '70s, 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Griselda becomes the queen of Queens, 76 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,920 Queens, New York. 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,000 She's selling cocaine. 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,880 My mother realizes that this is the future. 79 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:26,240 ♪ ♪ 80 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,640 (sniffing) 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,280 BOB PALOMBO: Cocaine was on the rise, 82 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:33,000 the demand was starting to increase. 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,640 ♪ ♪ 84 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,920 At JFK Airport, the seizures were from a pound or so, 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,600 or two pounds on the body, 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,720 to two or three kilos in the suitcases. 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,000 (tires screech) 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,040 But we were starting to see other methods, 89 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,840 anything that could conceal cocaine 90 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:57,160 was starting to make its way in more frequently. 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,960 And Griselda Blanco's fingerprint was on that. 92 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:01,720 ♪ ♪ 93 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,440 BLANCO: Griselda entrepreneured the cocaine industry 94 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,520 as we know it. 95 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,080 From the jungle, to the street corner, 96 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,680 to the nightclub, to your household. 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,040 My mother did that. 98 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:16,680 ♪ ♪ 99 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,640 ♪ ♪ 100 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,360 Where's the first place people are gonna buy drugs at? 101 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,800 On the corner. 102 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,720 What's the second place people are gonna do and sell drugs at? 103 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,360 The disco. 104 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,680 It's the epitome and the era of disco music. 105 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:39,680 (disco music playing) 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,960 REPORTER: It's 3:00 in the morning in Manhattan, 107 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,320 and still at Studio 54, 108 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,760 people crowd the doors hoping to get in. 109 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,400 BLANCO: My mother liked to rub elbows 110 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,120 with the elite of the time. 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,320 REPORTER: Society columnists adore Studio 54 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,560 for the personalities it attracts. 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,320 BLANCO: Studio 54, she practically owned the joint. 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 GEORGE JUNG: Studio 54 was lined up for blocks. 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,680 Everybody's snorting cocaine in there. 116 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,880 ♪ ♪ 117 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:17,640 It was Saturday Night Fever with señorita cocaine. 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,360 ♪ Here comes paradise ♪ 119 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,520 It took over America. 120 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,840 ♪ Mmm ♪ 121 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:26,120 ♪ That's nice ♪ 122 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,880 PALOMBO: Cocaine, at that point, 123 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,800 really wasn't in law enforcement's radar. 124 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,240 And so there was a gap in the intelligence 125 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,880 that was being developed, 126 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,320 and this gave the Colombians an opportunity to establish 127 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,200 a greater foothold for smuggling the drugs into the country 128 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,760 and distributing the drugs without being caught. 129 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,040 ♪ ♪ 130 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:59,720 ♪ ♪ 131 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,720 BLANCO: My mother makes a fortune in New York City 132 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,080 and moves back to Colombia. 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,400 And her and El Capitán see that their empire's grown so much 134 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,160 that they need henchmen, they need soldiers. 135 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,520 And everybody knew 136 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,680 that if you wanted to get into the cocaine business, 137 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,360 you had to get the green light from Griselda. 138 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:30,040 ♪ ♪ 139 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:37,040 ♪ ♪ 140 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Pablo Escobar's boss was one of those smugglers. 141 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,320 My mother didn't like him too much, so Pablo killed him. 142 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,520 And my mother said, "Pablo, you've got a future, kid." 143 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,400 ♪ ♪ 144 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:59,760 ♪ ♪ 145 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,040 PALOMBO: It wasn't until later 146 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,440 that I realized what a role she played, 147 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,720 not only in the cocaine business, 148 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,400 but also in the business of violence. 149 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,400 She was psychopath. 150 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,080 She loved killing people. 151 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,280 (camera shutter clicking) 152 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,240 ♪ ♪ 153 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:31,560 ♪ ♪ 154 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:38,080 ♪ ♪ 155 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:44,800 ♪ ♪ 156 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,360 ♪ ♪ 157 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,160 BLANCO: Griselda comes to Miami. 158 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,480 You have an industry that was trying to be established 159 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,320 by other Latinos. 160 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,280 My mother always told me, "You know what's the best way 161 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,240 to take care of your competition? 162 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Erase your competition. 163 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Then you have nobody to compete with." 164 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,760 (siren) 165 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,720 INVESTIGATOR: Right now two people are dead, 166 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,760 and there are others injured. 167 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,160 I don't know the exact amount. 168 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,960 REPORTER: Police say they don't know what the motive was 169 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,760 for the shootings, but they are sure it wasn't robbery. 170 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,040 AL SINGLETON: The shooting occurred 171 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,320 in the middle of the day, 172 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,800 in a very popular shopping mall called Dadeland. 173 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,400 REPORTER: Inside the liquor store, 174 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,160 one Colombian national and another non-Cuban Latin 175 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:37,160 suspected of drug trafficking lay face up in a pool of blood. 176 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,720 REPORTER: The assailants sprayed gunfire 177 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,280 all around the parking lot. 178 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Shell fragments were found some 40 yards from the store. 179 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,280 SINGLETON: They'd fired automatic weapons 180 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,320 into the sidewalk area, 181 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,040 wounding two other totally innocent bystanders. 182 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,240 Witnesses were just beside themselves. 183 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,360 PALOMBO: This was the handiwork of Griselda Blanco. 184 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,600 BLANCO: That day, 1979, I think 185 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,280 Miami and the United States understood that cocaine 186 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,320 would generate so much violence and so much financial gain, 187 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,680 that people were willing to kill people in broad daylight, 188 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,560 innocent or not innocent. 189 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,560 REPORTER: Colombian drug dealers have opened fire 190 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:30,240 in crowded shopping centers, along busy highways, 191 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,960 in quiet residential neighborhoods. 192 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,400 SINGLETON: We became known as Dodge City. 193 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Our homicide rate doubled from 300 a year to 600 a year. 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,480 We were all overwhelmed. 195 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,520 PALOMBO: The primary target of Metro-Dade Homicide 196 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,280 was Griselda Blanco. 197 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,480 She not only wanted the person shot, 198 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,000 but she wanted the person's wife and even the children shot. 199 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:04,040 She was a monster. 200 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:11,120 ♪ ♪ 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,720 ♪ ♪ 202 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,720 As she began to create more and more enemies, 203 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,000 she wasn't able to really enjoy the fruits of her endeavors 204 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,360 because she was on the run. 205 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:34,120 ♪ ♪ 206 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,400 PALOMBO: Her husband, Darío Sepúlveda, 207 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,720 is growing weary of her, he's disgusted with her. 208 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,000 Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, right? 209 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,680 He's an assassin himself, and even she was too much for him. 210 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:49,160 ♪ ♪ 211 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,960 He's worried about the well-being of his son, 212 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Michael Corleone, and he takes Michael and goes to Colombia. 213 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,440 Well, Griselda wasn't having any of that. 214 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,640 ♪ ♪ 215 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,200 And a short time later, she pays off police in Colombia. 216 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,080 Darío's driving down the road with little Michael in the car. 217 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,240 (bell tolls) 218 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,080 BLANCO: And after a couple minutes, 219 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,320 four cops, two motorcycles pull us over. 220 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,760 He handcuffs my father, and my father goes, 221 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,520 "What are you doing?" 222 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,840 And I look at my daddy, 223 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,840 and I said, "Papi, papi!" 224 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,520 My dad was hit by 27 bullets. 225 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,280 I saw the holes on his back. 226 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,720 And there was all blood coming out of 'em. 227 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,480 I was about to be six years old. 228 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,320 PALOMBO: Griselda Blanco ordered the hit on her husband, 229 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,160 and there's no doubt in my mind that she didn't care 230 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,000 whether her son saw the assassination or not. 231 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,320 ♪ ♪ 232 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,720 ♪ ♪ 233 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,080 All he knew was that he was whisked up, put on a plane, 234 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,520 and delivered to his mother in Irvine, California. 235 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,520 And shortly thereafter is when we arrest her. 236 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,920 ♪ ♪ 237 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,000 She was just propped up in bed reading the Bible. 238 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,280 She didn't have the .38 in her hand; 239 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,240 that was on her nightstand. 240 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,320 I said, "Hola, Griselda." 241 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,240 She looked at me with a very bewildered look. 242 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,000 "No. Me llamo Betty." 243 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,160 I said, "Nah, I don't think so." 244 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,040 And I put the cuffs on her, away we went. 245 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,600 ♪ ♪ 246 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:45,520 ♪ ♪ 247 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,520 ♪ ♪ 248 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,040 BLANCO: When you've done so much bad in your life, 249 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,720 that type of beef never goes away. 250 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,880 That type of generational hatred, revenge, 251 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,680 it don't go away. 252 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:59,880 So after eight years of my mother's release, 253 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,440 she was killed. 254 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:07,440 ♪ ♪ 255 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:13,440 ♪ ♪ 256 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,440 ♪ ♪ 257 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,840 ♪ ♪ 258 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,480 KAREN GRAVANO: Sometimes I feel like I talk too much, 259 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,360 but that's a good thing, right? 260 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,920 My name's Karen Gravano. 261 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,960 I'm the daughter of Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano. 262 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,280 ♪ ♪ 263 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,960 I was about nine years old when I started to realize 264 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,440 that my father had a different type of lifestyle. 265 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,600 We was the underboss of the Gambino organized crime family, 266 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,120 which was the most powerful organized crime family 267 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,400 in New York City. 268 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:58,160 ♪ ♪ 269 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,400 He was a gangster. 270 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,920 If you crossed him, you had a problem. 271 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,320 When he came home, he wasn't a gangster at home. 272 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,040 He was a father, he was a friend, he was a protector. 273 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,040 There's this one time, when we were kids, 274 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,000 like my father took us to a duck pond, 275 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,400 and I think we had a couple of my cousins. 276 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,880 So everybody was feeding the duck, and the duck went crazy, 277 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,520 and I think it bit me or my cousin, 278 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,120 and I remember my father just, like, 279 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,480 grabbing the duck by its neck and choking him. 280 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,760 Feathers were flying, ducks were all screaming. 281 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,200 Everybody was running. 282 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,240 But, you know, he was protective. 283 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,840 I mean, I would choke a duck if they attacked my daughters. 284 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,760 (quacking) 285 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,840 ♪ ♪ 286 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,080 ♪ ♪ 287 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,320 RONALD REAGAN: The time has come 288 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,360 to cripple the power of the Mob in America. 289 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,720 Can we honestly say that America is a land with justice for all 290 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,480 if we do not now exert every effort to eliminate 291 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,400 this confederation of professional criminals, 292 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,200 this dark, evil enemy within. 293 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:16,560 ♪ ♪ 294 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,240 GEORGE GABRIEL: So the strategy was we got to bug this guy 295 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,640 any place he's potentially doing business. 296 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:30,600 ♪ ♪ 297 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,880 ♪ ♪ 298 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,160 GRAVANO: Everything started going fast, you know? 299 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,400 It just all started to come together in my head. 300 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,280 So I realized that my father's in trouble. 301 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,200 Like this is something big. 302 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,880 GEORGE ANASTASIA: Sammy Gravano's a very shrewd guy 303 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,360 and a very intelligent guy, 304 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,840 and Sammy Gravano looks at the lay of the land, 305 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,640 and on some of the tapes, 306 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,160 Gotti is not saying very nice things about Gravano. 307 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,400 GABRIEL: He implicates Sammy in a bunch of murders 308 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,720 that are gonna put Sammy in jail for life. 309 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,320 GRAVANO: He felt betrayed, 310 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,680 and the Feds were actually smart enough, 311 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,000 because they used this tape 312 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,360 as the wedge between my father and Gotti. 313 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:14,840 He came over, he sat down, 314 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,040 and he was like, "I'm gonna tell you something 315 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,880 that goes against everything I believe in 316 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,320 and everything I've ever taught you to believe in." 317 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,360 "I'm gonna cooperate with the government." 318 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:29,760 And it was like, I couldn't even believe that those words 319 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,760 came out of his mouth. 320 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,800 ♪ ♪ 321 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:39,840 ♪ ♪ 322 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,600 My father was released from prison in 1995. 323 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,200 The FBI wanted him to go into witness protection, 324 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,160 so he agreed. 325 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,400 He went into the program. 326 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,440 There's so many restrictions. 327 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,880 He wasn't able to talk to us 328 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,640 because we didn't go in the program, 329 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,000 so he signed himself out, 330 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,760 and he joined my mother and my brother in Arizona. 331 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:08,240 ♪ ♪ 332 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,320 He started a company called Marathon Development, 333 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,720 which, in New York, he actually had Marathon Concrete. 334 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,520 He was in the office every day 335 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,240 trying to build this company from the ground up, 336 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,280 legitimately creating a business. 337 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,960 He wasn't Sammy the Bull anymore. 338 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,480 He wasn't Salvatore Gravano, he was Jimmy Moran. 339 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,640 That was the identity the government gave him. 340 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:39,640 ♪ ♪ 341 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,840 ♪ ♪ 342 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 ♪ ♪ 343 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,480 HUGH DOWNS: Do you know where your teenagers are? 344 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,280 This could be the night your child ventures 345 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,360 into a secretive and potentially dangerous world. 346 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:59,600 The world of the rave. 347 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,680 REPORTER: Use of the designer drug ecstasy 348 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,840 is rising at an alarming rate. 349 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,120 RICH LEBEL: Ecstasy never carried that dirty social stigma 350 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:11,360 that methamphetamine did or heroin did or cocaine did. 351 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,480 So, the younger generation thought it was OK 352 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,880 to be taking it. 353 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:21,880 ♪ ♪ 354 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,000 JIM COPE: When my lieutenant asked for volunteers, 355 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,360 there wasn't one supervisor 356 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,040 that wanted to volunteer for that mission 357 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,320 because it wasn't one of them sexy things to do. 358 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,080 I'm Sergeant Jim Cope from the Phoenix Police Department. 359 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,200 I drafted Rich Lebel. 360 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,240 We developed the strategy to go in the raves 361 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,040 and actually make undercover purchases at the raves. 362 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:49,720 ♪ ♪ 363 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,840 LEBEL: You walk inside and, right away, 364 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,520 the music makes your insides vibrate because it's so loud. 365 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,200 It's all sort of hypnotic. 366 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,080 ♪ ♪ 367 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,560 Once you were inside, they were super trusting. 368 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,880 Somebody would walk by you, and they'd ask you, 369 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,080 "Hey, you need any E?" 370 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,600 And we would just be making buys. 371 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,960 (thunder) 372 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,640 COPE: When Rich Lebel was up to 250- to 500-pill buys, 373 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,400 the suspects we were dealing with said, 374 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,280 "Hey, if you guys are gonna be players in this market, 375 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,560 you'd better be careful 376 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,920 because the New York guys are running everything, 377 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,800 and you're gonna have to pay tax on your pills to them." 378 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:42,800 We didn't take it serious at all. 379 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,320 (siren) 380 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,560 GRAVANO: My father just came home from prison. 381 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,280 My mother and brother bought a restaurant. 382 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Everyone always thinks that we picked the name Uncle Sal's, 383 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,880 the best kept secret in Scottsdale. 384 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,600 ♪ ♪ 385 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,520 We joke at home, 386 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,640 but I think my mother's the real gangster here. 387 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,920 My mother's name is Debbie. 388 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,080 She came to Arizona with all the money. 389 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280 So she financed things. 390 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,120 My brother, Gerard, he was a chef 391 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,160 working in the restaurant. 392 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,200 I'd just had my daughter, my brother had a son, 393 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,560 and we were doing good. 394 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,080 We were working hard, we were staying out of trouble, 395 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,440 and we were just really, honestly 396 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,000 building our family back up. 397 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:34,000 ♪ ♪ 398 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:41,000 ♪ ♪ 399 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,920 ♪ ♪ 400 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,080 Once that newspaper article came out, 401 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,040 it made everyone start looking at us. 402 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,680 That was actually the start of everything going bad 403 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,440 for my family in Arizona. 404 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,840 ♪ ♪ 405 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,000 GRAVANO: My brother was working in the restaurant. 406 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,400 This guy came in, and he threw $1,000 on the table, 407 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,640 and he told Gerard, "Here, put this in your pocket. 408 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,040 Come out with us tonight. 409 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,040 We're gonna go to the clubs. 410 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,400 Everything's on me, 411 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,320 and, by the way, I love your father." 412 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,040 So, that's how Mike Papa comes into the whole picture. 413 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,240 That's how this whole ecstasy thing started. 414 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:39,720 ♪ ♪ 415 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,480 So, Gerard, building his friendship with Mike Papa, 416 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,760 started going to clubs with him. 417 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,920 Gerard started seeing that this guy's, you know, 418 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,400 he's selling pills, he's selling ecstasy. 419 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:55,720 ♪ ♪ 420 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,800 ♪ ♪ 421 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,440 COPE: As our investigation was progressing, 422 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,240 we kept hearing the rumors about the New York guys. 423 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,360 I was at the gym working out, an acquaintance of mine said, 424 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,520 "Hey, do you know anything 425 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,080 about some kind of crazy club drug or..." 426 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,320 He called it a sex drug. 427 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,400 He goes, "All these young kids are at the gym 428 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,480 bragging about how much money they're making off these pills," 429 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,520 and he named Mike Papa, and he goes, 430 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,200 "You're not gonna believe it, 431 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,240 they say they're being backed by Sammy the Bull Gravano." 432 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,040 RON STERRETT: I didn't believe that Sammy would be associating 433 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,040 with college kids selling drugs, quite honestly. 434 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,600 I thought that was beneath his level. 435 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,320 But when we obtained Mike Papa's phone number, 436 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,040 it was subscribed to Marathon Development. 437 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,680 COPE: It right away hit me, 438 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,880 a business that Sammy ran back in New York was Marathon. 439 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,400 STERRETT: So, the link was created. 440 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:09,400 ♪ ♪ 441 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,920 ♪ ♪ 442 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,840 (modem screeching) 443 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,440 But actually, the link was created to Gerard Gravano. 444 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,920 ♪ ♪ 445 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,560 GRAVANO: When Gerard got involved 446 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,680 in the ecstasy business, 447 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,680 all of a sudden it went from the Mike Papa investigation 448 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,560 to the Gravano investigation, 449 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,920 because they realized that this is Sammy the Bull's son. 450 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,120 ♪ ♪ 451 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:55,520 ♪ ♪ 452 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,040 (engine revving) 453 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,840 COPE: During our wiretap, I kept seeing 454 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,160 this light-colored Mercury Marquis out on surveillance. 455 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,520 ♪ ♪ 456 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,840 GRAVANO: My father started feeling 457 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,920 like people were following him, 458 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,720 and he said, "Listen, I don't know if it's the cops, 459 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,880 if it's people from New York, 460 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,000 but I feel like something's going on." 461 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,040 GABRIEL: The whole time Sammy was out in Arizona 462 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,000 we knew Gotti had given the contract on Sammy: 463 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,040 "He screwed us. You got to go get him." 464 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,960 ♪ ♪ 465 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,840 ♪ ♪ 466 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,400 (dial tone) 467 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,320 (dialing phone) 468 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,920 COPE: In January of 2000, 469 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,280 Ron Sterrett and the investigative team 470 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,560 start intercepting calls 471 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,360 between a supplier in California and Mike Papa. 472 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,120 (phone ringing) 473 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,840 COPE: As those calls progressed, 474 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,680 we realized a large shipment of 25,000 pills 475 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,480 were gonna be coming in from LA. 476 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,760 ♪ ♪ 477 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,080 ♪ ♪ 478 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,080 STERRETT: We saw the bag of ecstasy 479 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,360 coming into possession of Mike Papa. 480 00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:20,800 (camera shutter clicking) 481 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,600 We followed Mike Papa directly back to Marathon Development 482 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,280 and saw Mike Papa carry the bag in. 483 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,000 (clicking) 484 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,600 ♪ ♪ 485 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:42,040 ♪ ♪ 486 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,000 (phone ringing) 487 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,400 STERRETT: That call came in 488 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240 somewhere between 11 o'clock in the evening 489 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960 to 1 o'clock in the morning. 490 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,680 A normal business doesn't pay somebody 491 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,040 at 11 o'clock in the evening for a gas receipt. 492 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,760 $70 for gas receipts, 493 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,560 we knew that that was code for $70,000 for the ecstasy. 494 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,000 ♪ ♪ 495 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,320 Gerard and Mike Papa needed to ask Sammy 496 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,160 to front the $70,000 for the next shipment. 497 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,920 That brought him right into the middle 498 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,440 of the financing of the ecstasy organization. 499 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,200 ♪ ♪ 500 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,520 COPE: Hey, we got him. We got enough. 501 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,200 We got enough for everybody. 502 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,760 This whole group is done. 503 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,640 ♪ ♪ 504 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,320 (siren) 505 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,000 GRAVANO: We come to find out 506 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,800 Gotti had sent a hit team down to Arizona. 507 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,120 ♪ ♪ 508 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,160 STERRETT: There was a plan to kill Sammy 509 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,440 where Sammy parked his car. 510 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,520 ♪ ♪ 511 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,800 GRAVANO: My father would have never laid down lightly. 512 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520 ♪ ♪ 513 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,280 If some gun battle was going off, 514 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,880 he's coming out shooting. 515 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,720 ♪ ♪ 516 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,200 ♪ ♪ 517 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,440 COPE: There was probably 200 tactical officers 518 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,400 at that meeting from different agencies. 519 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,080 ♪ ♪ 520 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,400 STERRETT: When they made entry, 521 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Sammy was crawling on the floor toward getting a gun. 522 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,960 I think he thought it was 523 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,720 the Mob coming after him. 524 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,120 He surrendered, was handcuffed 525 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,720 and brought to the facility where I was waiting for him. 526 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,040 I told him, you're being arrested 527 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,240 for conspiracy to distribute dangerous drugs, 528 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,960 and he just kind of leaned his head back 529 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160 and closed his eyes and sighed. 530 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,200 Like, "Jeez, I can't believe I got caught for this." 531 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,120 But quite honestly, we feel we saved Sammy's life 532 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,040 by arresting him a few days before he was gonna get killed. 533 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,360 ♪ ♪ 534 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,400 NEWS ANCHOR: And authorities 535 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,640 say it was a family affair. 536 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,560 ♪ ♪ 537 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,400 GRAVANO: I made mistakes. 538 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,800 Did I know that there was ecstasy being sold? 539 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Yes. 540 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Was I involved in maybe some of the talks? 541 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Yes. 542 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,920 NEWS ANCHOR: The crime ring allegedly distributed 543 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,600 up to 30,000 pills a week of the drug ecstasy. 544 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,920 LEBEL: I was over at Mike Papa's residence when we arrested Mike. 545 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560 REPORTER: He might just be the most famous snitch of all time, 546 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,160 but now Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano 547 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,920 has had the tables turned. 548 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:11,320 ♪ ♪ 549 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,120 GRAVANO: Once Mike Papa started cooperating with the government, 550 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880 they threw everything at us. 551 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,000 They threw charges at my mother. 552 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,000 They threw charges at me. 553 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,120 They threw charges at my brother. 554 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,840 My father's now boxed in. 555 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,240 ♪ ♪ 556 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,160 You know, I don't think people understand. 557 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480 My father didn't get involved in the drug business 558 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,440 because he wanted to sell drugs. 559 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,480 Family's everything to my father. 560 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,360 He would never let us jump in quicksand 561 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,280 without jumping in with us. 562 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,440 And that's why Sammy the Bull got involved in drug dealing. 563 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:03,440 ♪ ♪ 564 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:09,440 ♪ ♪ 565 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:15,440 ♪ ♪ 566 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,640 ♪ ♪ 567 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,920 SAMMY GRAVANO: I believe you and this court 568 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,600 have been very fair with me and my family, 569 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,160 and I appreciate it very much. 570 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:31,120 ♪ ♪ 571 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:37,120 ♪ ♪ 572 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:42,840 ♪ ♪ 573 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,000 GRAVANO: Me and my brother, 574 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,600 we (bleep) up. 575 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:51,600 ♪ ♪ 576 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:57,600 ♪ ♪ 577 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:03,600 ♪ ♪ 578 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,200 ♪ ♪ 579 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,120 MAN: Good to see y'all. 580 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,400 Happy St. Patrick's Day. 581 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,960 Chicago's annual St. Patrick's Day Parade. 582 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,240 MIA FLORES: Growing up in Chicago, we had a great life. 583 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,560 MAN: Chicago's finest. 584 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,320 Nice welcome to Chicago's finest. 585 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,000 MIA: Our fathers were police officers. 586 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,040 Our whole family is in law enforcement. 587 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,960 We grew up in a blue collar neighborhood. 588 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,880 (cheering) 589 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:44,640 You don't really run into drug dealers or gangs. 590 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:50,120 And Peter and Junior moved down the block from me. 591 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,400 MIKE FERRARA: The Flores twins were born as Pedro Flores 592 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,600 and Margarito Flores, Junior. 593 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,920 Almost nobody called them that, 594 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,400 they were referred to as Pete or Peter, was Pedro, 595 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,560 and Margarito went by Junior or Jay. 596 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560 MIA: Peter and Junior would go to extreme measures 597 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,600 to just put a smile on our face. 598 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,280 I was always attracted to these bad boys. 599 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,760 So I ended up falling in love. 600 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,280 FERRARA: Without a doubt, the Flores twins 601 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,200 became the biggest drug dealers in the history of Chicago. 602 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,680 The Flores brothers were more or less born into the drug trade. 603 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,000 Their father was a marijuana trafficker, 604 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,480 and they had an older brother in a gang in Chicago. 605 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,000 So through those role models they learned drug trafficking. 606 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,480 JACK RILEY: They were moving 1,000 kilos a month 607 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,080 of pure cocaine. 608 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,800 A kilo was going for about $60,000. 609 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,760 You can do the math. 610 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,240 OLIVIA: We were very young. We were very flashy. 611 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,160 When we would go out, we would go to clubs, 612 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,280 and it was like we were popping bottles of Cristal, 613 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,160 and we were just living that life. 614 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,160 I was known as the Million Dollar Bitch, 615 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560 just because like, you know, I was the first girl 616 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,400 to get my boobs done and always wore designer clothes, 617 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,400 and I was very flashy. 618 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,240 You know, this was a whole 'nother level. 619 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:26,960 It was obvious to see what they were doing 620 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,080 and how much money that they were making. 621 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,600 Everyone in Chicago knew where the drugs were coming from. 622 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,720 The drugs they were getting were coming from the Sinaloa Cartel. 623 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:45,400 From Chapo. 624 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,840 REPORTER: Mexican drug lord Joaquín Guzmán. 625 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,760 REPORTER: The man known as El Chapo, AKA Shorty... 626 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,160 NEWSCASTER: The top drug dealer in the world. 627 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,840 REPORTER: ...who runs the world's largest drug cartel. 628 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,760 (siren) 629 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,840 MICHAEL JORDAN: This is what Chicago is all about. 630 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,120 MIA: Anyone from Chicago knows it's a place 631 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,360 you really don't leave unless you really have to. 632 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,920 I can never go back to Chicago. 633 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,720 (gulls squawking) 634 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,400 FERRARA: In 2004, the twins were very much a known quantity 635 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,600 in drug trafficking. 636 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,040 They were indicted, 637 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:31,120 and that's ultimately what caused them to flee to Mexico. 638 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,280 MIA: We were basically on the run, 639 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,520 hiding from the US government. 640 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,560 We moved to Guadalajara, 641 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,680 and we were just thrown into this narco world. 642 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,160 FERRARA: Once the Flores brothers were in Mexico 643 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600 they began to interact directly 644 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,720 with more and more senior members of the Sinaloa Cartel. 645 00:35:55,720 --> 00:36:00,600 ♪ ♪ 646 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,560 (phone ringing) 647 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,280 OLIVIA: When you are taking drugs from the cartel, 648 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160 you're taking drugs on consignment. 649 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,600 (phone ringing) 650 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680 You owe millions and millions of dollars. 651 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,400 Making the smallest mistake can cost them their lives. 652 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,080 (phone ringing) 653 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,800 FERRARA: In 2005, Guadalupe Ledesma, 654 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600 one of the twins' sources of supply, 655 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,320 declared that the twins owed to him 656 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,920 a massive drug debt of several million dollars. 657 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,680 (phone ringing) 658 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Guadalupe ultimately received his drugs from Chapo. 659 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,560 (phone ringing) 660 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,000 OLIVIA: I remember the day when Junior's phone rang. 661 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,800 (phone ringing) 662 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,600 (receiver lifts) 663 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,000 Peter had been kidnapped. 664 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,720 Junior says that he's gonna go to Sinaloa 665 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:58,440 to try to get to Chapo. 666 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,480 I was so frightened. 667 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,360 I didn't think that Peter was gonna come back alive. 668 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:12,280 ♪ ♪ 669 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:19,240 ♪ ♪ 670 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:22,400 A lot of people that go to the mountaintop, they don't return. 671 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,400 ♪ ♪ 672 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,720 Junior is greeted by Chapo's army. 673 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:35,600 They have AK-47s, they're like ready to go to war. 674 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,240 That's when he met Chapo. 675 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:46,360 ♪ ♪ 676 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,200 Chapo told him that he can have him killed with his brother. 677 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,680 ♪ ♪ 678 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,520 Junior... 679 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,920 (clicking) 680 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,720 ...asked him for permission... 681 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:04,200 (clicking) 682 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,160 ...to pull out these ledgers. 683 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,520 (clicking) 684 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,120 ♪ ♪ 685 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,200 ♪ ♪ 686 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920 As Junior's flipping through these ledgers, 687 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:25,400 Chapo realizes the amount of drugs that they're moving. 688 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,720 FERRARA: Chapo was convinced 689 00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:29,640 that this drug debt wasn't their fault. 690 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,680 Effectively that Guadalupe Ledesma 691 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,400 was lying to Chapo. 692 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,680 And so Pete was released. 693 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,560 Under Chapo's order, Ledesma was executed. 694 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,040 From that point on, 695 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,280 Pete and Jay began dealing directly with, with Chapo. 696 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,360 RILEY: I think it's at that point 697 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,240 that Chapo made it pretty clear to them, 698 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:56,120 if they chose to buy from other people, they were gonna be dead 699 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,480 and their family was gonna be dead. 700 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,880 OLIVIA: So everything began to change. 701 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,680 (heart beating) 702 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,480 ♪ ♪ 703 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,040 Mia and I found out that we were both pregnant. 704 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,000 (heart beating) 705 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,680 MIA: It was very scary to realize 706 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:25,400 that we are gonna bring up our children in this drug world. 707 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,520 We realized how this cycle was, was just going on and on 708 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,400 from generation to generation. 709 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,840 OLIVIA: When you're working for Chapo Guzmán 710 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,520 and you're bringing in the money, $2 billion in their case, 711 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,040 he was never gonna let them stop. 712 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,960 I started telling Junior that I couldn't do this anymore. 713 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,200 "What do you mean? Like, we can't stop. 714 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,680 Like, we're good. Nothing's gonna happen to us. 715 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,000 No, there's gonna be no end game for us, 716 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,920 like, it's not gonna happen." 717 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:03,360 ♪ ♪ 718 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,280 They basically went against everything 719 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,840 that they ever learned their whole life. 720 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,440 ♪ ♪ 721 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,960 ♪ ♪ 722 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,920 He knew that this is the only way to save our family. 723 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,360 FERRARA: We were not aware of a single 724 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:30,120 legally admissible recording of Chapo, period, full stop. 725 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,800 The twins presented that opportunity. 726 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,840 ♪ ♪ 727 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,440 ♪ ♪ 728 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,000 (phone ringing) 729 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,640 MIA: They got it. 730 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,920 OLIVIA: I knew at that point that life was gonna change. 731 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,320 I knew that our husbands 732 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,200 were going to have to turn themselves in 733 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,640 to the US government, and that they were gonna go to prison. 734 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,800 ♪ ♪ 735 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:01,760 ♪ ♪ 736 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:08,720 ♪ ♪ 737 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,080 REPORTER: A dramatic capture, 738 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,200 the world's most wanted, most dangerous drug lord. 739 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,000 ♪ ♪ 740 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:24,000 ♪ ♪ 741 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,720 ♪ ♪ 742 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,240 MAN: He was a man known for no other life 743 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:35,040 than a life of crime, violence, death and destruction, 744 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,200 and now he'll have to answer to that, 745 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,920 as I'm pleased to announce the extradition of Chapo Guzmán 746 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,560 to the United States from Mexico. 747 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,600 ♪ ♪ 748 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:49,960 (siren) 749 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,080 REPORTER: Yesterday the court heard from Chicago's 750 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,800 infamous twins, Pedro Flores and his brother Margarito. 751 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,880 OLIVIA: We knew that our husbands would have to testify, 752 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,920 and we knew the whole world was watching. 753 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,320 CHRIS JANSING: Good day, everyone. 754 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,080 We're coming on the air with breaking news, 755 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,840 a verdict has been reached. 756 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,760 REPORTER: Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán was just found guilty 757 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,000 on all counts. 758 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,800 ♪ ♪ 759 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:30,000 ♪ ♪ 760 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,360 OLIVIA: Chapo getting sentenced, I feel like this was 761 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,520 resolution to what we started 12 years ago. 762 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:44,000 ♪ ♪ 763 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,560 Basically it's a sentence for life. 764 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,280 We're always gonna be hunted, 765 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,280 but we do it for the protection of our family, for our children. 766 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:59,240 ♪ ♪ 767 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:06,120 ♪ ♪ 768 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,800 This is gonna be our life forever. 769 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,720 Captioned by Side Door Media Services