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[VCR clicking, whirring]

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Hello, my name is Detective Gil Carrillo,

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Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department,
assigned to Homicide Bureau.

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The Sheriff's Department
is conducting an investigation…

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on a series of homicides
and sexual assaults

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occurred in Los Angeles County.

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The suspect, who has traveled highways
in what we believe to be stolen vehicles,

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is always wearing gloves
to make his entries.

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The suspect has used

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[echoing] guns, knives, tire irons,
handcuffs and thumbcuffs,

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as well as his own foot,
to inflict serious…

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Los Angeles City has

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almost all benefits

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and no negatives.

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["Glory Days" by Bruce Springsteen plays]

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♪ Well, there's a girl
That lives up the block ♪

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♪ Back in school
She could turn all the boys' heads ♪

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[woman 1] This was a decade
when the queen visited, the Pope visited.

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We had the Olympics.

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We were proud of the city, proud of LA.

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For the first time in recorded history,
our freeways were relatively clear.

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-[woman 1] It was a huge decade.
-Crime dropped like a rock.

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♪ Glory days ♪

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[reporter]
Our top story,

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record temperatures and fires
scorching the Southland.

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[reporter 2] Downtown the mercury
reached 107 degrees this afternoon.

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[woman 1] You have this amazing city,
so many parallel universes.

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[woman 2] LA was a facade.

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From one side,

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it was glamorous celebrities.

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[song warping, distorting]

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But if you went around to the other side…

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[song distorting, slowing down]

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[song stops abruptly]

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…LA could be a very dark place.

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[ominous music playing]

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[woman 2]
You could be anybody.

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It also attracted
very, very dangerous people.

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Nobody knows
where this individual may strike next.

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[reporter 3] The same man
is suspected in six to eight murders

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and 25 to 30 attacks.

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There's sort of a thin line between

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being paranoid about it
and being aware of it.

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…the so-called Night Stalker
who has terrorized California.

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He struck again.

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People wonder when and where
he'll strike next.

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[man] I'm scared.

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Everybody is scared.

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I am not leaving my door open for my son,
I don't care if he sleeps on the street.

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[woman] I don't understand
why somebody can't identify him.

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He has to live somewhere.
Somebody must know.

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He's a weird-looking character.
Somebody has to know him.

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[dark, ominous theme music plays]

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[man reading]

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[man panting]

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[man groans]

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[ominous choral music plays]

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[Gil]
I don't believe that anybody has a choice.

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[splatters]

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Your number is there one day.
We're all going to die.

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[echoing clang]

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We just don't know when.

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You start dying the day you were born.

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I was born and raised
in the Catholic Church.

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I believe in God.
I believe in the Holy Spirit.

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I believe there's a devil.
I believe there's an evil force.

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I just say prayers, hopefully to help
give me the wisdom and the knowledge

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to bring this case to a solution.

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[gentle piano music plays]

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All the people on the block
that I lived on,

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were Mexicans.

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There was a gang where I lived.

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We all hung out on the corner
of Dulin and Holbrook.

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They were more important
than school was to me,

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and I didn't realize that until a cop

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told my mom and dad, "Sign for this
young man to get off the street,

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or he'll end up dead or in prison."

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And, so, at age 17,

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my parents signed for me
to go into the Army.

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[helicopter blades whirring]

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I was a crew chief

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with 189th Assault
Helicopter Company in Vietnam.

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I saw heavy, heavy combat.

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By the grace of God,
I made it out alive, and…

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as soon as I got out of Armed Forces,
I had three goals in life.

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One was to start dating
my former girlfriend,

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who had dumped me while I was in Vietnam.

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I wanted to see if I could get her back,
then break up with her.

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I wanted revenge,
I wanted to hurt her like she had hurt me.

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But it didn't work out that way.
[laughs]

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[Pearl]
He got out of the service in June,

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and we were married by December.

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[Gil]
December 26, 1970.

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That was goal number one.
Goal number two was to go to college.

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Nobody in my family
had ever gone to college,

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and I thought college was
for rich white people.

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So, I enrolled at Rio Hondo College…

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and started going there.

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Two out of three goals I accomplished.

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And the third one was
I wanted to become a cop.

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[reflective music plays]

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October 1st, 1971…

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I became a patrol cop
at East LA Sheriff's Station.

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When I was 29 years of age,

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I got an outstanding evaluation.

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Those were hard to come by.

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When I showed it to my mom and dad,

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my dad looked up and said…

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"I'm proud of you, son."

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And he had never
said that to me in my life.

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He always wanted to make his dad proud.

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Proud of him.

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[Gil] After that,
I watched guys from homicide work.

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They were so meticulous, so good.

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When they pulled up on the scene,
everybody got out of their way.

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"Wow, sheriff's homicide's here."

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I told them, "One of these days,

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I want to do your job."

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March 23rd, 1981…

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I get called to go to Homicide Bureau.

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I only had
nine and a half years experience.

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That was my goal,
that was my dream, and…

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I made it.

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The Bulldogs. That was their nickname.

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I covered hundreds of crimes

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and dozens and dozens of murders…

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In downtown Los Angeles, Tony Valdez…

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[echoing]
…Channel 11 News.

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…and I can tell you there were a lot
of murders that ended up being solved

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20 years later,
because the Bulldogs never let go.

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[Frank] We probably ran
350, 400 murders a year

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for the sheriff's homicide bureau.

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Los Angeles Police Department
was probably running 500 or 600.

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So, in LA County, there's probably
close to 1,000 murders a year.

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And it takes a big ego,

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because you got to have
confidence in what you're doing.

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You're investigating the ultimate crime.

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There's nothing more serious

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than one human being
taking the life of another.

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[Gil]
Frank Salerno's the Italian Stallion,

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he's the goombah, he's…

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he's everything.

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When I got there,
he was working on the Hillside Strangler.

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[reporter] This is where the first
Hillside Strangler victim was found.

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The death of Laura Collins
and 12 other young women

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touched off one of the largest manhunts
in Southern California history.

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[Gil] Everybody looked up to him.
He's the man.

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[man] If you saw Frank Salerno
or heard his name,

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these were not small-time crimes.

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They were bringing heavy guns.

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Frank Salerno was a straight shooter.
He's a disciplined guy.

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He was always a poker face.

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He's very businesslike.

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[reporter]
His co-workers call him a cop's detective.

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[man]
Frank overlooks nothing.

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You'd be surprised how thorough
he is on an investigation.

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[Frank] Gil Carrillo and Jim Mercer
were teamed together as partners.

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He sat at a desk that was behind me
and to my left.

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And he was the youngest detective
in the Bureau at the time.

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One day, Frank comes over and says,

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"Want to go down to Little Joe's?"
An Italian restaurant in Chinatown.

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And I'm sitting there
and I've never eaten Italian food.

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I grew up in a Mexican home.
That's what I know, is Mexican food.

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I look at this menu
and I don't recognize anything.

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I don't know what it is.
I remember ordering chicken Parmesan.

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And I'm eating this food and I'm laughing.

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Salerno looked at me, said,
"What's so funny, kid?"

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I said,

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"Here I am, last week, I'm eating
a double-wrapped red chili burrito

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off the hood of a radio car in east LA.

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Tonight, I'm wearing a suit and tie,

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eating some shit that I don't know
what it is, drinking a glass of wine

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with Frank Salerno
and the guys from Homicide.

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It don't get any better than that."

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[clock ticking]

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[woman]
I was working at AT&T,

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and across the street was a mini-mall.

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And in there was a Salvation Army store.

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And I would just spend
my lunch hour in there.

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And once, I was in there,

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there was a table that was full of junk,

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and there was this hat.

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And I picked it up,
'cause the letters on it said "AC/DC."

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I didn't know what that was,
and thought it was kind of weird.

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And so, I threw it back down.

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And then on my right, here comes this man,

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and he stood right there
and picked up the hat…

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looked at it…

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turned around and looked at me,

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and kind of smiled a little bit,

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and he had the devil on his hand.

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A picture. A round circle

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with the face of the devil.

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You know, with the horns?

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And he got the hat, walked away.

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When I went home from work,

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I was on the freeway with my little car,

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and here comes somebody
speeding way behind me.

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Then all of a sudden,
he just swerves around my car.

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It's like he's right there.

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Like a moment, stop.

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And he turns and he just…
He's looking at me.

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I remembered, you know,
that was the same guy I saw

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at the thrift store.

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And he has this horrible big grin
and he's missing all these teeth.

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[eerie whooshing]

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He just stared at me,

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like a weird smile.

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It was like a killer clown.

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[faint, chilling music plays]

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[music ends abruptly]

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[gunshot]

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[phone ringing]

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[ringing intensifies]

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[Gil] The date was March 17th, 1985,
Saint Patrick's Day.

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-[phone rings]
-[receiver clicks]

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[Gil] I actually got that murder
with my partner.

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I get there and the garage door is open.

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In the garage,

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I see blood spatterings
around the door and on the floor,

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right by the door that separates

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the garage from the condo proper.

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There was a baseball cap.

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It said "AC/DC" on it.

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And I go inside the condo…

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walk around…

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and see a bloody phone inside the bedroom.

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-[gunshot]
-[bullet case rattles]

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[tense music playing]

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[Gil] And I see Dayle Okazaki
lying on the kitchen floor…

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wearing a Dodger jersey.

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She had been shot right in the forehead.

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She'd put her hands on the countertop,
and lifted her head up

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because it was quiet in there,
wanted to see where the suspect was at.

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He was on the other side
of the countertop waiting for her,

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knowing that she was going
to pop her head up,

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'cause he could see her hands,

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waiting there, and when she did,
he pulled the trigger.

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[sorrowful music plays]

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Maria Hernandez had just driven home.

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She entered via the garage door

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that she opened
with a garage door opener, a remote.

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Maria says she keyed the door
when she heard an intentional noise.

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She turned around and there was
a male suspect with a stargazed look,

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with a gun stretched out
coming towards her face,

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and she put her hands up
and he pulled the trigger.

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The bullet deflected
off the keys in her hand.

248
00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:08,240
It knocked her to the ground.

249
00:15:08,324 --> 00:15:11,493
He then pushed her body out of the way,
entered the condo.

250
00:15:12,077 --> 00:15:15,331
She jumped up
and started running down the alleyway

251
00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:16,874
when she heard another gunshot.

252
00:15:16,957 --> 00:15:17,917
[gunshot]

253
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,294
She became concerned for her roommate,

254
00:15:20,377 --> 00:15:23,130
so she went around the front of the condo

255
00:15:23,213 --> 00:15:25,925
thinking he'll come back out
the garage door.

256
00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:28,260
But he didn't.

257
00:15:29,428 --> 00:15:31,055
He came out the front door.

258
00:15:32,431 --> 00:15:33,474
He sees her.

259
00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:36,518
He's just as startled
as she is to see him.

260
00:15:37,478 --> 00:15:39,813
Maria says,
"I just threw my hands up and said,

261
00:15:39,897 --> 00:15:43,484
'Hey, you already shot me once,
do you really have to shoot me again?'"

262
00:15:44,234 --> 00:15:45,110
At which time,

263
00:15:45,694 --> 00:15:47,821
the suspect puts the gun down by his side

264
00:15:47,905 --> 00:15:49,239
and doesn't even run.

265
00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:51,116
He walks away.

266
00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:59,583
[tense music plays]

267
00:16:01,377 --> 00:16:02,503
[camera shutter snaps]

268
00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:05,756
[camera shutter snaps]

269
00:16:06,423 --> 00:16:08,342
[Gil]
I'm at the Maria Hernandez house.

270
00:16:08,425 --> 00:16:10,594
I'm not thinking about anything else,

271
00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:14,682
other than getting accurate documentations
of what my observations are.

272
00:16:16,350 --> 00:16:18,352
So, I'm documenting everything

273
00:16:18,435 --> 00:16:21,397
from ambiance to smell,

274
00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,818
using fixed objects to measure
where her foot is, where her head is,

275
00:16:25,901 --> 00:16:26,944
and…

276
00:16:27,653 --> 00:16:32,366
directing the photographer
to take photographs of the crime scene.

277
00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:34,994
And once that's done,

278
00:16:35,619 --> 00:16:37,705
then I can start thinking about motives,

279
00:16:37,788 --> 00:16:39,790
and thinking about solving this case.

280
00:16:44,712 --> 00:16:48,465
I'm inside the living room
and the deputy opens a door and says,

281
00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:52,553
"Excuse me, the mother
of Maria Hernandez is out here

282
00:16:52,636 --> 00:16:54,722
and she'd like to have a word with you."

283
00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:58,142
While the door is open,
he's standing there, I hear somebody say,

284
00:16:58,892 --> 00:17:00,269
"Gilbert, is that you?"

285
00:17:00,769 --> 00:17:03,605
I'm there saying,
"Gilbert? Nobody calls me-- I'm Gil.

286
00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:05,441
I'm too cool to be Gilbert."

287
00:17:05,524 --> 00:17:08,068
And I can't see her, I hear her voice.

288
00:17:08,152 --> 00:17:09,278
And she says,

289
00:17:10,237 --> 00:17:11,405
"It's me, Pauline."

290
00:17:11,947 --> 00:17:13,657
And I said, "Pumpkin?"

291
00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:15,034
And she said, "Yes."

292
00:17:15,617 --> 00:17:18,037
And it was the mother of Maria Hernandez.

293
00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:22,207
A neighbor that lived three doors down
from me when I was a kid growing up.

294
00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:26,045
This case was already close to home.

295
00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:39,892
We find out the next day that 40 minutes
after the murder of Dayle Okazaki,

296
00:17:39,975 --> 00:17:42,102
the Monterey Park Police Department
got a call.

297
00:17:42,936 --> 00:17:45,314
There was a murder that had occurred

298
00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:47,983
probably a mile
from where Dayle Okazaki got killed.

299
00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:53,155
They've got a young Asian girl
that is driving down the street,

300
00:17:53,238 --> 00:17:54,656
and all of a sudden

301
00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:56,075
she is stopped,

302
00:17:57,367 --> 00:18:00,120
and she's yanked out of her car,

303
00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:02,372
and she's shot

304
00:18:02,456 --> 00:18:04,041
for no apparent reason.

305
00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:10,714
[reporter] Tsai-Lian Yu was left sprawled
in the street, shot in the chest.

306
00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:11,757
Her last words:

307
00:18:12,716 --> 00:18:14,343
"Help me! Help me!"

308
00:18:18,847 --> 00:18:20,808
[Gil]
It was the same caliber weapon,

309
00:18:20,891 --> 00:18:24,937
but you can't assume
that it's the same gun because…

310
00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:26,605
[gunshot echoing]

311
00:18:26,688 --> 00:18:30,484
…there are thousands
upon thousands of .22s out there.

312
00:18:30,567 --> 00:18:31,693
Maybe it's not.

313
00:18:34,446 --> 00:18:37,741
So now we have Maria Hernandez
in the hospital.

314
00:18:38,534 --> 00:18:40,911
We told her we'd like
to send the staff artist.

315
00:18:41,703 --> 00:18:42,955
She says, "Sure."

316
00:18:44,081 --> 00:18:48,502
[Maria] I can tell you he was… 5'10",
something like that. Dark clothes…

317
00:18:48,585 --> 00:18:51,171
[Gil] When that staff artist
brought me the picture,

318
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:54,341
I was showing it to the detectives
over at East LA Station,

319
00:18:54,424 --> 00:18:57,010
and a friend of mine said,
"Gil, hold that thought."

320
00:18:57,094 --> 00:19:00,222
He goes out to his car
and he brings out an identikit drawing.

321
00:19:01,014 --> 00:19:03,475
You put them together,
it looks like the same guy.

322
00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:09,565
His drawing came from
the physical description of a suspect

323
00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:12,526
of an attempted kidnapping
out of the city of Pico Rivera.

324
00:19:13,527 --> 00:19:15,988
My mind started working because,

325
00:19:16,071 --> 00:19:19,575
before I got to Homicide,
I was going to Cal State LA.

326
00:19:19,658 --> 00:19:22,035
There was a professor
by the name of Robert Morneau.

327
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,663
Great man, best professor I've ever had.

328
00:19:24,746 --> 00:19:28,709
And I took Advanced Criminal Investigation
Pertaining to Sex Crimes from him.

329
00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:33,172
And I remembered that
there's a deviancy that says,

330
00:19:33,797 --> 00:19:36,550
"I like to see a frightened look
on your face."

331
00:19:36,633 --> 00:19:37,801
[woman screaming]

332
00:19:37,885 --> 00:19:42,431
"I want to see you scared.
That's what really gets me turned on."

333
00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:44,183
That's excitement to them.

334
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:46,810
With Maria Hernandez,

335
00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:49,897
he could have walked up behind her
in silence and killed her.

336
00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:50,981
He didn't.

337
00:19:51,064 --> 00:19:53,192
He intentionally slapped the top of a car…

338
00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:55,861
-[slapping echoes]
-…so she could turn around and see him.

339
00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:57,946
Dayle Okazaki,

340
00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:02,034
she was down on the ground and he waited
until he saw the fear in her eyes,

341
00:20:02,117 --> 00:20:03,911
then he shot her right here.

342
00:20:05,787 --> 00:20:06,872
Tsai-Lian Yu,

343
00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:10,209
why wasn't she killed
right there in the car?

344
00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:13,212
Whoever the suspect was
wanted confrontation.

345
00:20:13,295 --> 00:20:14,504
Wanted to see that fear.

346
00:20:15,088 --> 00:20:20,135
That's what started me thinking
about, perhaps, one man doing this.

347
00:20:23,013 --> 00:20:26,099
[distant police siren blaring]

348
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:33,732
[man reading, echoing]

349
00:20:35,275 --> 00:20:36,235
…with…

350
00:20:46,495 --> 00:20:49,456
[brooding music plays]

351
00:20:59,174 --> 00:21:00,050
And…

352
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,486
[clock ticking]

353
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:22,072
[tense music plays]

354
00:21:24,241 --> 00:21:28,036
[Frank]
Ten days after Okazaki, Hernandez, and Yu,

355
00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:31,999
there is a double murder
out in Whittier County area.

356
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,461
[Gil]
The house of Vincent and Maxine Zazzara.

357
00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:41,174
JD Smith and Russ Yuloth
went to that case. It was their murder.

358
00:21:41,883 --> 00:21:43,510
It's a pretty brutal murder.

359
00:21:44,094 --> 00:21:47,639
You could see where he stepped on
a five-gallon plastic can

360
00:21:47,723 --> 00:21:50,726
and got in the house
through an open restroom window.

361
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:52,686
The place was ransacked.

362
00:21:53,687 --> 00:21:56,273
[Frank]
There was a $40,000 theft

363
00:21:56,356 --> 00:21:58,775
that occurred there in jewelry and things.

364
00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:03,947
The male is executed
as he's sleeping on the couch…

365
00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:06,408
-[gunshot]
-…with a gunshot wound to the temple.

366
00:22:09,411 --> 00:22:10,746
A .22 was used.

367
00:22:12,372 --> 00:22:16,585
[Gil] So now you have
Dayle Okazaki killed with a .22,

368
00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:20,922
Tsai-Lian Yu killed with a .22,
and the Zazzaras killed with a .22.

369
00:22:22,382 --> 00:22:25,135
[Frank]
And the woman is found in bed.

370
00:22:25,218 --> 00:22:28,430
[Gil] She has several stab wounds
just above the vagina.

371
00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:30,349
She had been raped,

372
00:22:30,432 --> 00:22:33,268
and he actually cut her eyes out.

373
00:22:33,852 --> 00:22:37,147
[cold, harsh music playing]

374
00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:40,650
[Frank] Why?

375
00:22:41,818 --> 00:22:43,028
Why did he do that?

376
00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:51,203
Was it because she stared at him
or got a hard look at him?

377
00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:53,955
[Gil]
He took the eyes with him,

378
00:22:54,539 --> 00:22:55,957
and then he's gone.

379
00:23:04,883 --> 00:23:08,053
[indistinct chatter on radio]

380
00:23:13,266 --> 00:23:15,352
[ominous music plays]

381
00:23:15,435 --> 00:23:17,979
[Frank]
The biggest thing in that case was…

382
00:23:19,106 --> 00:23:20,148
a shoe print left

383
00:23:20,732 --> 00:23:21,858
at the point of entry

384
00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:23,777
and in flower beds around the house.

385
00:23:26,029 --> 00:23:29,699
That was a full-sized 11 to 12 shoe.

386
00:23:40,335 --> 00:23:43,255
[ominous music continues]

387
00:24:11,199 --> 00:24:16,163
[woman] I was six,
and my first memory of that night is…

388
00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:22,085
the window opening and being woken up.

389
00:24:22,919 --> 00:24:25,255
And then being ushered out the window,

390
00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:27,382
and being carried.

391
00:24:31,970 --> 00:24:34,389
It kind of hurts me to say that

392
00:24:34,973 --> 00:24:37,559
there was a familiarity, uh…

393
00:24:37,642 --> 00:24:38,643
you know,

394
00:24:38,727 --> 00:24:42,647
he reminded me of a family member,

395
00:24:42,731 --> 00:24:46,568
and, you know, I was half asleep,
I didn't know what was going on.

396
00:24:46,651 --> 00:24:48,987
So, I thought,
"Well, that's okay. I know him,

397
00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:52,741
so… I guess this is okay that I'm going."

398
00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:01,875
I don't know how long I was in the car
or what it looked like.

399
00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:04,794
But I do remember

400
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:08,006
there was one point
where we were driving,

401
00:25:08,089 --> 00:25:10,717
and… he looked at me and,

402
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,135
he said, you know,

403
00:25:12,219 --> 00:25:14,513
"Open up the glove compartment."

404
00:25:14,596 --> 00:25:16,973
And I did and there was a gun inside.

405
00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:22,062
And he shut it and just kind of like--
"Just so you know, that's there."

406
00:25:23,772 --> 00:25:25,315
Things started from there.

407
00:25:25,398 --> 00:25:26,399
Um…

408
00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:28,860
You know…

409
00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:32,906
Look at him and…

410
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:35,742
touch him and things like that.

411
00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:36,826
Um…

412
00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:42,666
[distant, ominous music playing]

413
00:25:42,749 --> 00:25:44,709
And then we got to where we were going.

414
00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:48,713
I remember there being German Shepherds
barking and a chain-link fence.

415
00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:50,799
[dogs barking]

416
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:55,929
And he made me get into
a zipped-up duffel bag

417
00:25:56,012 --> 00:25:58,640
and he told me, "You need to be quiet.

418
00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,141
You need to get in here."

419
00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:01,685
Like, "Don't mess with me.

420
00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:03,979
Do what I say."

421
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:11,695
We had to walk
through a room with a couch,

422
00:26:11,778 --> 00:26:14,114
and everything was dark and kind of dingy.

423
00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:16,116
The windows were covered

424
00:26:16,199 --> 00:26:20,870
with drapery or something
that made it dark, and…

425
00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:24,874
I don't know. Just slimy.

426
00:26:27,460 --> 00:26:29,337
Food packages and…

427
00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:31,715
take-out stuff around.

428
00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:34,884
Very not my house.

429
00:26:38,054 --> 00:26:41,099
There was just this soundtrack
of Madonna going on.

430
00:26:41,182 --> 00:26:43,101
[pop music playing faintly]

431
00:26:43,184 --> 00:26:45,312
[Anastasia] "Holiday" and "Like a Virgin."

432
00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:47,397
All of those songs…

433
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,650
[playback warping, slowing down]

434
00:26:53,236 --> 00:26:54,237
…over and over.

435
00:26:55,447 --> 00:27:00,285
I remember saying,
"Stop. This hurts. Don't."

436
00:27:00,952 --> 00:27:03,038
Or, like, "Why are you doing this?"

437
00:27:04,122 --> 00:27:07,000
You know, I'd say, like,
"Can I go to the bathroom?"

438
00:27:07,083 --> 00:27:09,753
He would stop what he was doing,
take me to the sink

439
00:27:09,836 --> 00:27:11,212
and sit me on the sink.

440
00:27:14,424 --> 00:27:18,553
And then nothing would happen for a while,
then he'd take me back and…

441
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:19,804
continue.

442
00:27:19,888 --> 00:27:21,556
And I would ask again,

443
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,975
"I have to go to the bathroom.
Can you please stop?"

444
00:27:24,059 --> 00:27:26,019
And he would keep stopping.

445
00:27:26,102 --> 00:27:28,104
But, each time, it's like, "All right,

446
00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:30,482
I know you don't have to go."

447
00:27:32,567 --> 00:27:35,612
Something in the way
that he would look at me that…

448
00:27:35,695 --> 00:27:38,657
It was almost like,
"I'm sorry that I'm doing this to you.

449
00:27:41,868 --> 00:27:44,120
But I'm not sorry,
'cause I'm not going to stop."

450
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,166
[sedate music plays]

451
00:27:48,249 --> 00:27:52,212
He put me in the bag again,
to leave the place where we were.

452
00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:55,590
And after a while we stopped…

453
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,843
on the side of the road,

454
00:27:58,927 --> 00:28:01,596
and he said,
"There's a gas station over there.

455
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,517
I want you to go in there
and I want you to tell them to call 911

456
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,353
and have them get your family
to come get you."

457
00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:11,022
Um, so…

458
00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:13,650
he let me go.

459
00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:25,453
[sedate, somber music continues]

460
00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:49,269
[Frank] At that time there was
a series of child abductions,

461
00:28:49,352 --> 00:28:51,730
or attempted abductions, of children.

462
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,899
In each case,
the child was sexually assaulted.

463
00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:57,527
[reporter] February 25th, in Montebello,

464
00:28:57,610 --> 00:29:01,489
a six-year-old girl was taken from
a schoolyard, molested, then abandoned.

465
00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:03,450
March 11th in Monterey Park,

466
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:05,785
a nine-year-old boy
was snatched from his bed,

467
00:29:05,869 --> 00:29:07,495
molested, then abandoned.

468
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,372
March 20th, in Glassell Park,

469
00:29:09,456 --> 00:29:11,708
an eight-year-old girl
was taken from her bed,

470
00:29:11,791 --> 00:29:13,293
assaulted in a car, then abandoned.

471
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:20,133
[Gil] If kids get sexually assaulted,

472
00:29:20,216 --> 00:29:22,886
get kidnapped,
or anything happens to kids,

473
00:29:22,969 --> 00:29:24,679
that's an entirely different unit.

474
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,140
I was assigned
to the sheriff's Homicide Bureau.

475
00:29:27,223 --> 00:29:28,767
I'm working one murder…

476
00:29:29,726 --> 00:29:33,605
the murder of Dayle Okazaki
and the wounding of Maria Hernandez.

477
00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:38,902
And as part of your investigation,
you look for broadcast.

478
00:29:38,985 --> 00:29:42,030
Everything else that's going on around
in the area, what's happening.

479
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:46,367
The first description I got
was from Maria Hernandez.

480
00:29:46,451 --> 00:29:49,913
When you look at the reports
that the children gave…

481
00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:53,208
their descriptions were very similar.

482
00:29:54,125 --> 00:30:00,298
They described him as being tall, thin,
light-skinned Hispanic or Caucasian,

483
00:30:00,381 --> 00:30:01,883
disheveled hair,

484
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:04,594
all black clothing,
Members Only-type jacket,

485
00:30:04,677 --> 00:30:07,889
brown-stained gap teeth,
and a pungent odor.

486
00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:11,684
In my opinion, we had a serial killer

487
00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:14,103
that was responsible
for kidnapping children,

488
00:30:14,187 --> 00:30:18,650
girls, boys, raping adult women,
killing adult women, killing males.

489
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,069
Not many people believed that,

490
00:30:21,152 --> 00:30:24,823
because we've never encountered
anybody like that…

491
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:27,158
in criminal history.

492
00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:35,250
[Frank]
Gil asked me, "What do you think?"

493
00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:37,544
I said, "Is it possible?

494
00:30:37,627 --> 00:30:38,920
Absolutely.

495
00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:41,005
Is it probable? Mmm.

496
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:43,132
It's never been documented before."

497
00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:46,094
[clock ticking]

498
00:30:46,177 --> 00:30:49,222
[cold, atmospheric music plays]

499
00:30:50,807 --> 00:30:52,141
[Gil]
On April 10th,

500
00:30:52,225 --> 00:30:56,062
I attended a meeting of local
law enforcement from the Los Angeles area

501
00:30:56,145 --> 00:30:59,607
to exchange information between agencies
on the abduction of children.

502
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,070
I was alleging that the child abductions
were related to the homicides.

503
00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:07,949
And they were laughing at me.

504
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:12,579
[Frank]
This just doesn't occur.

505
00:31:12,662 --> 00:31:15,415
You didn't have a guy going around
violently killing people

506
00:31:15,498 --> 00:31:20,128
and then also kidnapping
and assaulting young people

507
00:31:20,211 --> 00:31:21,838
and allowing them to live.

508
00:31:23,423 --> 00:31:24,716
It's unheard of.

509
00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:28,845
And these old-timers, they laughed it off.

510
00:31:28,928 --> 00:31:31,681
I went there openly and honestly.

511
00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:35,935
I didn't realize
that they were going to reject…

512
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:39,814
and scoff at my theory.

513
00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:44,319
Gil was very frustrated with the way
he was being treated.

514
00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:48,281
[Gil] I had an inside friend
that worked Monterey Park that told me,

515
00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:52,827
"Every time you walk out of this office,
every time you come in, walk out,

516
00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:55,622
they're motherfucking you to death,
thinking you're a young punk

517
00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:57,582
trying to make a name for myself."

518
00:31:58,082 --> 00:32:02,837
I thought Gil was right
in suggesting that it was one person.

519
00:32:03,546 --> 00:32:07,008
He had a good sense of this killer.

520
00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:11,512
So, I just encouraged him, as his friend,
and said, "Go for it."

521
00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:21,105
[jarring, ominous music plays]

522
00:32:39,916 --> 00:32:44,379
[Gil] I used to use East LA Patrol Station
as kind of like my home base.

523
00:32:45,046 --> 00:32:47,382
Deputies there were well aware
of what I was working.

524
00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:53,137
A deputy from the station approached me
and said, "Some girls called the cops.

525
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,891
They said, "This guy was following us.
Here's his plate number.'"

526
00:33:00,019 --> 00:33:02,981
The guy had long hair, was tall,
light-skinned Mexican.

527
00:33:03,898 --> 00:33:06,442
I got a surveillance team
and they're following him

528
00:33:06,526 --> 00:33:08,403
and he went to a restaurant.

529
00:33:08,486 --> 00:33:11,114
And they said he drove around
the parking lot

530
00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:15,493
and just kept skulking around,
and finally saw a lone female

531
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,286
and he started following her.

532
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:21,541
She realizes she's being followed,
so she splits and she gets away from him.

533
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,502
And they're still on him.

534
00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:26,379
They said, "This guy's a freak!"

535
00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:28,673
If he sees any female,

536
00:33:28,756 --> 00:33:32,427
didn't matter, guy went through
all kinds of traffic just to get to 'em.

537
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:36,264
And so,
we take Arturo Robles into custody…

538
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,850
and I talked to him.

539
00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:42,395
And I said,

540
00:33:42,478 --> 00:33:45,356
"You're making U-turns
because you wanna get to a woman?"

541
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,651
He said, "Yeah, I like women.
Nothing wrong with that."

542
00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:51,320
I said, "Lady walks by you,

543
00:33:52,030 --> 00:33:53,906
then you ducked down behind the car."

544
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:56,534
He says,
"Oh, I didn't duck. My shoes were untied."

545
00:33:56,617 --> 00:33:59,078
He had an answer for everything.
He was good.

546
00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:02,623
And so I put a six-pack,
a mug show folder together.

547
00:34:02,707 --> 00:34:05,376
One of the people I showed it to
was Maria Hernandez.

548
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:08,504
And she said, "That could be him."

549
00:34:10,256 --> 00:34:11,382
And so, we go back,

550
00:34:11,966 --> 00:34:13,259
write a search warrant,

551
00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:15,053
go down to his house,

552
00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:19,348
we find all kinds of pictures
out of magazines,

553
00:34:20,141 --> 00:34:21,809
photographs of women.

554
00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:25,438
Wearing a black Members Only jacket,
he's got dark clothing.

555
00:34:26,022 --> 00:34:27,398
He's got ladies' underwear,

556
00:34:28,232 --> 00:34:30,318
and they're all sliced in the crotch.

557
00:34:35,156 --> 00:34:38,451
So, we had a lineup
and nobody could pick him in the lineup.

558
00:34:38,534 --> 00:34:39,911
Not even Maria Hernandez.

559
00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:43,081
My partner looked at me and said,

560
00:34:43,956 --> 00:34:44,916
"He's a freak.

561
00:34:46,626 --> 00:34:48,252
But he's not your freak.

562
00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,046
He's not the guy."

563
00:34:54,133 --> 00:34:57,220
[engine starts, revs]

564
00:35:02,725 --> 00:35:05,019
[faint crunching sounds]

565
00:35:06,354 --> 00:35:09,107
[chilling music creeping in]

566
00:35:12,193 --> 00:35:14,445
[dark musical sting]

567
00:35:45,685 --> 00:35:47,728
-[gunshot]
-[casing clatters]

568
00:35:47,812 --> 00:35:52,233
[clock ticking]

569
00:35:56,946 --> 00:35:59,782
[Linda] In the case
of the Dois in Monterey Park,

570
00:35:59,866 --> 00:36:02,201
I was called to go to their home.

571
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:06,706
So, when I arrived at the scene,

572
00:36:06,789 --> 00:36:08,457
it was really violent…

573
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:10,626
and destructive.

574
00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:18,134
[reporter] Authorities say
that the man shot 66-year-old William Doi,

575
00:36:18,217 --> 00:36:20,720
then raped, beat and robbed his wife.

576
00:36:21,554 --> 00:36:26,350
Detectives say Doi saved his wife's life
by calling 911 before he died.

577
00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:31,814
[Tony]
They found his wife badly beaten.

578
00:36:32,398 --> 00:36:35,818
On the thumb of her left hand,
she was wearing thumbcuffs…

579
00:36:35,902 --> 00:36:37,570
Eighteen years I worked homicide,

580
00:36:37,653 --> 00:36:40,740
it's the only case I ever came across
where thumbcuffs were used.

581
00:36:42,074 --> 00:36:43,951
[Tony] A bizarre restraining device,

582
00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:46,996
the thumb of her right hand
was bleeding profusely,

583
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:49,457
indicating that in her attempt
to free herself

584
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:51,834
Mrs. Doi had ripped her thumbs apart.

585
00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:58,591
And that's basically the information
we get from the Doi murder.

586
00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:01,761
We had…

587
00:37:02,595 --> 00:37:04,889
We had nothing.
[chuckles] We had a whodunit.

588
00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:09,060
[Gil]
A friend from Montebello PD says,

589
00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:11,979
"I may have found a link
that's gonna help you link these cases."

590
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:16,943
And he showed me a picture of a footprint
that was taken at a child abduction.

591
00:37:19,153 --> 00:37:22,323
[Frank] She was eight years old
and taken from her house,

592
00:37:22,406 --> 00:37:26,953
taken to a construction site
and was sexually assaulted,

593
00:37:27,036 --> 00:37:28,496
and then set free.

594
00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:32,667
At that construction site,
they had poured concrete that day

595
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:35,419
and there was a shoe print
in the concrete.

596
00:37:35,503 --> 00:37:38,756
And so I went down there.
He showed them. I said, "Jesus Christ."

597
00:37:41,050 --> 00:37:43,094
And I recognized it immediately

598
00:37:43,177 --> 00:37:46,430
as the same or similar footprint
that was lifted

599
00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,350
at the Zazzara homicide crime scene.

600
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:51,769
[Frank]
We knew by Zazzara,

601
00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:54,230
we were looking
for a pretty good-sized shoe.

602
00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:56,440
Somewhere between 11 and a 12.

603
00:37:56,524 --> 00:38:00,027
So, I called up my lieutenant and I said,
"Okay, I found the link."

604
00:38:00,111 --> 00:38:01,404
And he says, "Gil,

605
00:38:02,154 --> 00:38:05,324
I've got the guys from LAPD in here
that are handling that case,

606
00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:07,076
they're looking for a size ten.

607
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,036
You're looking for a bigger shoe."

608
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,830
I said, "Put them on the phone."

609
00:38:11,664 --> 00:38:15,376
And he got on the phone. I said,
"I wanna know how you determine your size,

610
00:38:15,459 --> 00:38:19,088
because I'm looking at a shoe
that's a one-to-one with a ruler in it.

611
00:38:19,171 --> 00:38:22,383
It's 12 inches long.
How do you get a size 10?"

612
00:38:22,466 --> 00:38:25,303
All they did,
because the cement was kind of wet,

613
00:38:26,178 --> 00:38:28,764
was he put his shoe, he wore wingtips,

614
00:38:28,848 --> 00:38:30,141
size 10,

615
00:38:30,975 --> 00:38:34,562
and he stood on one foot and put
his wingtip down over the shoe print,

616
00:38:34,645 --> 00:38:37,857
and he says, "My shoe covers it.
Got to be a size 10."

617
00:38:38,441 --> 00:38:41,277
Says, "I obviously made a mistake,
I got to change it.

618
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,279
I got to make it right. You're right."

619
00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:47,992
Now I've got a little bit
of circumstantial evidence here.

620
00:38:49,243 --> 00:38:51,412
But that still wasn't enough.

621
00:38:53,998 --> 00:38:57,084
[tense music plays]

622
00:39:06,427 --> 00:39:08,387
[Frank]
In May, 1985,

623
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,098
Gil loses his partner.

624
00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:13,893
My partner goes off,
eventually, to retire.

625
00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:15,728
So, we decided to hook up.

626
00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:18,564
Both get a drink at the bar and he says,

627
00:39:18,647 --> 00:39:21,192
"Gil, would you be interested
in working with me?"

628
00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:23,527
"Too Cool Carrillo," you know, so I said,

629
00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:25,404
"Yeah, I'll give it some thought."

630
00:39:25,488 --> 00:39:27,823
I went back
and sat next to my wife and said,

631
00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:30,910
"Frank Salerno just asked me
to be his partner!"

632
00:39:30,993 --> 00:39:33,120
He goes, "Frank Salerno!

633
00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:35,831
He's the best up there!"

634
00:39:36,624 --> 00:39:38,000
[Frank] Gil was young,

635
00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:39,794
enthusiastic,

636
00:39:39,877 --> 00:39:41,379
had a good reputation,

637
00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:43,631
and spoke Spanish,

638
00:39:43,714 --> 00:39:46,300
and I thought we'd make a good team.

639
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,472
[Gil] Next day he comes up to me
and he says,"I was in my cups that night."

640
00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:56,769
And I figure…
Frank's letting me down easy.

641
00:39:57,561 --> 00:40:00,481
He says,
"Yeah, but I'm not in my cups now.

642
00:40:00,564 --> 00:40:02,858
I'm asking you, are you still interested?"

643
00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:04,944
And I said, "Sure."

644
00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:08,072
He says, "Good, I went to the captain.
It's gonna happen."

645
00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:10,032
I said, "Cool."

646
00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:12,660
[intense music playing]

647
00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:14,286
[Frank]
Gil and I team up.

648
00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:16,914
We become partners.

649
00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:22,503
I was really surprised, in a way,
when I first realized that Frank Salerno,

650
00:40:22,586 --> 00:40:24,547
the almost bigger-than-life…

651
00:40:25,673 --> 00:40:26,507
murder cop,

652
00:40:26,590 --> 00:40:27,758
and then,

653
00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:29,468
here's this guy, Gil Carrillo.

654
00:40:31,137 --> 00:40:33,055
I knew him from the streets.

655
00:40:33,139 --> 00:40:35,975
When he was a patrol deputy,
he was known as El Cucuy,

656
00:40:36,058 --> 00:40:37,268
the boogeyman.

657
00:40:37,351 --> 00:40:40,438
He was notorious for
eating sunflower seeds

658
00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:43,607
and spitting the shells out
all over the place.

659
00:40:43,691 --> 00:40:46,569
Figuring out how he ends up
working with Frank Salerno.

660
00:40:46,652 --> 00:40:48,696
They were an odd couple.

661
00:40:49,655 --> 00:40:52,908
Frank was all business, no smiles.

662
00:40:52,992 --> 00:40:57,496
And Gil was this big guy
who was, you know, jovial.

663
00:40:57,580 --> 00:41:01,083
Gil was a welcome relief.
[laughs]

664
00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:04,336
[Gil] He could've had
anybody he wanted as a partner.

665
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,798
And he asked me and I was tickled pink.
I was flying.

666
00:41:25,274 --> 00:41:27,193
[reporter]
…three-quarters of a million people

667
00:41:27,276 --> 00:41:30,029
to beaches of Southern California
to search for a cool--

668
00:41:30,112 --> 00:41:32,615
One hundred degrees every day this week,

669
00:41:32,698 --> 00:41:36,076
and it's expected to stay that way
right on through the 4th of July.

670
00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:38,871
No, it's gonna stay hot.

671
00:41:38,954 --> 00:41:42,875
Very hot. Even NBC's Johnny Carson
was joking on last night's show about…

672
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,756
[tense music playing]

673
00:41:54,386 --> 00:41:55,387
[wet squelching]

674
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,686
[chilling, indistinct whispering]

675
00:42:04,939 --> 00:42:07,525
[clock ticking, then fading away]

676
00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:16,116
[Gil] Patty Elaine Higgins
was killed in the city of Arcadia.

677
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,873
That's the first case
Frank and I had had together.

678
00:42:23,457 --> 00:42:25,292
[Frank]
The killer was very enraged.

679
00:42:25,376 --> 00:42:30,005
He viciously cut her throat,
then he stabbed her in that slash.

680
00:42:30,089 --> 00:42:32,800
Like, you know, here's some more.

681
00:42:32,883 --> 00:42:34,301
Uh…

682
00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:37,096
That's a very violent individual.

683
00:42:37,972 --> 00:42:39,473
Four days go by…

684
00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:40,516
[clock ticking]

685
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:46,146
…and Arcadia PD calls the bureau again,
says, "We've got another murder."

686
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:49,984
So, Gil and I roll out to the Cannon case,

687
00:42:50,901 --> 00:42:53,571
just a few miles
from where Patty Higgins' case was.

688
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:57,825
[Gil] She had her throat slit,

689
00:42:57,908 --> 00:43:01,453
very similar to the way
Patty Elaine Higgins' throat had been slit

690
00:43:01,537 --> 00:43:02,997
four days prior.

691
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,041
Then we get to the 5th of July,
three days later.

692
00:43:06,125 --> 00:43:09,628
[clock ticking]

693
00:43:13,048 --> 00:43:15,426
[Frank] We get a call
from Sierra Madre PD,

694
00:43:15,509 --> 00:43:18,429
which is not too far from Arcadia
right there.

695
00:43:19,013 --> 00:43:23,517
In the front of the house
there is a fabric mark and blood…

696
00:43:24,226 --> 00:43:25,728
on the windowsill,

697
00:43:25,811 --> 00:43:28,814
so we knew that the suspect was wearing,

698
00:43:28,897 --> 00:43:31,525
like, a gardener's glove
or something like that.

699
00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:34,820
And we never find a single fingerprint

700
00:43:34,903 --> 00:43:36,697
in any of our crime scenes.

701
00:43:40,534 --> 00:43:42,328
[jarring, ominous music]

702
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,002
[reporter] She was beaten with a tire iron
at her parents' home in Sierra Madre.

703
00:43:57,718 --> 00:44:00,262
[Frank]
The room was ransacked.

704
00:44:00,971 --> 00:44:02,890
I mean, just ransacked.

705
00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:12,316
[reporter]
She says she remembers only going to bed.

706
00:44:13,734 --> 00:44:17,446
She woke up bloodied, beaten,
her bedroom in a disarray.

707
00:44:18,113 --> 00:44:21,784
She ended up with 42 inches of lacerations
and skull fractures.

708
00:44:23,911 --> 00:44:26,288
It's a difficult situation to…

709
00:44:31,335 --> 00:44:37,925
stand there and interview a 16-year-old
that had just gone through this.

710
00:44:38,842 --> 00:44:40,052
And you wanna…

711
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,807
You really want to get your hands
on that individual.

712
00:44:48,811 --> 00:44:49,937
[tense music plays]

713
00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:52,231
[Gil] We didn't go in the room
where this happened,

714
00:44:52,314 --> 00:44:54,024
we didn't want to contaminate it.

715
00:44:54,108 --> 00:44:55,943
We're waiting out in the living room

716
00:44:56,026 --> 00:44:57,861
when Gisele Lavigne,

717
00:44:57,945 --> 00:45:00,155
who was a criminalist from our crime lab,

718
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,410
she walks out, she's wearing a lab coat,
her hair's in a bun, glasses on,

719
00:45:04,493 --> 00:45:06,036
and she says, "Hey, fellas,

720
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,123
found something, may be interesting.
You oughta take a look."

721
00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:12,126
She's got a pink comforter in her hand,

722
00:45:12,209 --> 00:45:14,712
and she walks out to us
and she opens it up

723
00:45:14,795 --> 00:45:17,297
and there's a shoe print in blood

724
00:45:17,881 --> 00:45:19,550
on that comforter.

725
00:45:19,633 --> 00:45:24,096
[Gil] And that was the same footprint
that was at the Zazzara murder,

726
00:45:24,179 --> 00:45:25,806
and it is the same footprint

727
00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:28,976
found at the northeast abduction
of a 10-year-old little girl.

728
00:45:30,102 --> 00:45:33,731
That's a serial-- There's no doubt
in my mind. It's the same guy.

729
00:45:34,815 --> 00:45:36,692
Gil and I just looked at each other.

730
00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:37,818
It's like, "Wow."

731
00:45:37,901 --> 00:45:40,070
[intense music plays]

732
00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,698
The only thing I could say was,
"Kiss my ass."

733
00:45:42,781 --> 00:45:45,576
And Frank said, "Yeah, kiss your ass."

734
00:45:45,659 --> 00:45:48,078
It gave me chills,
like it's giving me right now.

735
00:45:49,705 --> 00:45:51,415
Right after we saw the footprint,

736
00:45:52,332 --> 00:45:55,461
Frank says, "Okay. Tell me
everything you've got in your head."

737
00:45:56,420 --> 00:46:00,591
Okazaki, Tsai-Lian Yu, Zazzara,

738
00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:03,010
William and Emily Doi.

739
00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:08,223
We have Patty Elaine Higgins, we have
Mary Cannon, and now Whitney Bennett.

740
00:46:09,308 --> 00:46:11,059
They weren't all my cases,

741
00:46:11,769 --> 00:46:13,896
but I studied them.
I knew all the details,

742
00:46:13,979 --> 00:46:15,856
times, addresses, information,

743
00:46:15,939 --> 00:46:17,357
and I told him everything.

744
00:46:17,441 --> 00:46:20,360
Now it's in black and white
in front of you.

745
00:46:20,444 --> 00:46:22,070
There's no denying it.

746
00:46:22,154 --> 00:46:23,822
Gil was right.

747
00:46:23,906 --> 00:46:27,284
The Bureau didn't think it was one man,
but once Frank got on board,

748
00:46:27,367 --> 00:46:30,496
said, "Yes, it's one man,"
everybody listens.

749
00:46:31,747 --> 00:46:34,208
Picked up the phone
called the captain right away.

750
00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:38,212
He said, "Okay, let's… let's go at it."

751
00:46:38,295 --> 00:46:41,590
And things started going fast and furious.

752
00:46:41,673 --> 00:46:44,343
We got a hell of a series going here.

753
00:46:44,426 --> 00:46:46,178
We got us a serial killer.

754
00:46:47,054 --> 00:46:49,139
[hard, intense music plays]