1 00:00:16,851 --> 00:00:19,479 -I do love walking in Paris. [chuckles] -Oh, my God. 2 00:00:19,563 --> 00:00:22,232 Do you remember we used to tell so many knock-knock jokes? 3 00:00:22,315 --> 00:00:23,984 We told a million knock-knock jokes. 4 00:00:24,067 --> 00:00:28,947 I was, like, endlessly amused by, "Knock-knock. Who's there? 5 00:00:29,030 --> 00:00:30,532 -Banana. Banana, who?" -[laughing] 6 00:00:30,615 --> 00:00:32,909 "Knock, knock. Who's there? Orange. Orange, who? 7 00:00:32,993 --> 00:00:34,452 Orange you glad I didn't say banana?" 8 00:00:34,536 --> 00:00:37,664 -I thought that was the funniest joke. -Well, your kids do too. 9 00:00:38,248 --> 00:00:40,292 You and Grandma were very patient 10 00:00:40,375 --> 00:00:42,752 with my repeated telling of that joke as a child. 11 00:00:43,420 --> 00:00:45,964 -Oh, hello. Whoa. [laughs] -Look at this one. Very brave. 12 00:00:46,047 --> 00:00:47,591 That one is very determined. 13 00:00:47,674 --> 00:00:50,635 Totally unfair thing to say, but the little head is so menacing. 14 00:00:50,719 --> 00:00:52,137 Yeah, but the head movement is like 15 00:00:52,220 --> 00:00:53,972 one of the exercises we did at clown school. 16 00:00:54,055 --> 00:00:55,265 You know, back and forth-- 17 00:00:55,348 --> 00:00:58,310 [class] Front and back, and front and back, and front and back. 18 00:00:58,393 --> 00:01:00,729 -Circles. -[class] And circles. 19 00:01:00,812 --> 00:01:03,356 [Chelsea] We traveled from Paris to Philadelphia 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,526 to meet with some of the funniest gutsy women we could find 21 00:01:06,610 --> 00:01:11,615 and discover the unexpected ways in which laughter can change the lives of women. 22 00:01:11,698 --> 00:01:13,366 [vocalizing] 23 00:01:13,450 --> 00:01:15,285 [class vocalizing] 24 00:01:15,368 --> 00:01:16,828 [vocalizing continues] 25 00:01:16,912 --> 00:01:18,872 [instructor] Madam Clinton, you're doing great. 26 00:01:18,955 --> 00:01:21,082 Call me Hillary. [Hillary chuckles] 27 00:01:23,543 --> 00:01:25,128 [instructor] Hillary, your nose. 28 00:01:25,212 --> 00:01:27,464 I thought it was gonna be women… [screams] You know? 29 00:01:27,547 --> 00:01:31,092 When it's a dick-mergency, they've got it covered, so… 30 00:01:31,176 --> 00:01:33,178 -Keep it classy. Keep it classy. -I mean, you know. 31 00:01:44,898 --> 00:01:46,983 Namaste, New York City! 32 00:01:47,067 --> 00:01:49,319 [audience cheering, whistling] 33 00:01:49,402 --> 00:01:51,905 A little about me. I'm an immigrant. 34 00:01:51,988 --> 00:01:55,242 I came to America with $9 in my pocket. 35 00:01:55,909 --> 00:01:58,411 10,000 in the bank, but nine in the pocket. 36 00:01:58,495 --> 00:01:59,788 [laughing] 37 00:01:59,871 --> 00:02:01,289 No, I'm not gonna be poignant. 38 00:02:01,373 --> 00:02:05,627 That's not the point for me tonight. Just this outfit is why I came out here. 39 00:02:05,710 --> 00:02:06,711 [audience laughing] 40 00:02:06,795 --> 00:02:09,213 I'm from Jersey. My town is super diverse. 41 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:13,635 33,000 Italian Catholics and six Muslims who are all my family. 42 00:02:13,718 --> 00:02:15,387 'Cause they've lived in both worlds. 43 00:02:15,470 --> 00:02:18,098 Trans women know stuff that we cis women don't know. 44 00:02:18,181 --> 00:02:21,393 Like, they know how much we're supposed to get paid. 45 00:02:21,476 --> 00:02:22,561 [laughing] 46 00:02:22,644 --> 00:02:24,646 When we first get on stage, a lot of times, as women, 47 00:02:24,729 --> 00:02:27,148 what I've noticed is-- The men don't have this as much. 48 00:02:27,232 --> 00:02:29,025 You'll have a bunch of guys who are like this. 49 00:02:29,109 --> 00:02:30,527 And the energy just drops. 50 00:02:30,610 --> 00:02:32,487 -[Saunders] So I already gotta come on… -Yeah. 51 00:02:32,571 --> 00:02:34,823 "What's going on? What's wrong with your hands? 52 00:02:34,906 --> 00:02:36,283 You don't wanna clap? All right." 53 00:02:36,366 --> 00:02:38,326 So then, now, I'll do my set here. 54 00:02:38,410 --> 00:02:40,954 A woman gets on the stage and they're like… [gasps] "Whoa." 55 00:02:41,037 --> 00:02:43,248 And they-- they just watch you for, like, a minute. 56 00:02:43,331 --> 00:02:45,709 You don't think they're listening to you. They're sort of watching you. 57 00:02:45,792 --> 00:02:47,627 Yeah. It's almost like your first joke is wasted 58 00:02:47,711 --> 00:02:50,046 -because they're just like, "A female." -[Saunders] Everything. But-- 59 00:02:50,130 --> 00:02:52,465 And this is why a lot of women, even with their outfits-- 60 00:02:52,549 --> 00:02:54,342 I used to wear blazers all the time 'cause I was like, 61 00:02:54,426 --> 00:02:55,886 "I don't want anybody to see my breasts. 62 00:02:55,969 --> 00:02:58,847 I don't want other women in the audience to think I'm trying to entice their man. 63 00:02:58,930 --> 00:03:00,932 -I don't want this guy to be like--" -All that stuff, yeah. 64 00:03:01,016 --> 00:03:02,183 We think about all these things, 65 00:03:02,267 --> 00:03:04,686 and guys literally just pick whatever they got in their closet, 66 00:03:04,769 --> 00:03:07,272 -"If we have time." Yeah. -Yeah. Mustard-stained T-shirts. Yeah. 67 00:03:07,355 --> 00:03:09,024 [Zayid] And when I started doing comedy, 68 00:03:09,107 --> 00:03:11,776 you had the rule of, like, one woman on every show. [chuckles] 69 00:03:11,860 --> 00:03:13,570 I-I'm surprised we even know each other. 70 00:03:13,653 --> 00:03:14,821 There's so many female comics. 71 00:03:14,905 --> 00:03:16,656 I would see their headshots at clubs and go, 72 00:03:16,740 --> 00:03:18,700 "Why can't I know you?" [laughs] 73 00:03:18,783 --> 00:03:20,368 [laughs] We're not allowed. 74 00:03:20,452 --> 00:03:22,704 [Hillary] How many times have each of you done this comedy club? 75 00:03:22,787 --> 00:03:24,998 -I can't even count. -At least 200. 76 00:03:25,081 --> 00:03:26,541 -Holy moly. -Oh, wow. 77 00:03:26,625 --> 00:03:27,459 Yeah. 78 00:03:27,542 --> 00:03:29,628 I love that my mother still says "Holy moly." 79 00:03:29,711 --> 00:03:31,046 [all laugh] 80 00:03:32,589 --> 00:03:35,425 [Chelsea] Why do you think there's so few knock-knock jokes about America? 81 00:03:35,508 --> 00:03:36,509 I have no idea. 82 00:03:36,593 --> 00:03:38,053 Because freedom rings. 83 00:03:39,012 --> 00:03:41,514 [both laugh] 84 00:03:42,015 --> 00:03:45,602 That is kind of clever once I had a think about it. [laughs] 85 00:03:46,895 --> 00:03:48,396 Would you ever do stand-up? 86 00:03:49,356 --> 00:03:52,442 You know, I had a different experience with comedy in some ways 87 00:03:52,525 --> 00:03:54,736 -than, um, I think than a lot of people… -[gasps] Oh, no. 88 00:03:54,819 --> 00:03:57,989 …'cause I was made fun of so much as a child 89 00:03:58,073 --> 00:03:59,574 by people who were professional comics. 90 00:03:59,658 --> 00:04:00,659 -[Hillary] Yeah. -Oh, yeah. 91 00:04:00,742 --> 00:04:03,954 And also horrible political talkers, like Rush Limbaugh and that. 92 00:04:04,037 --> 00:04:06,873 But that was different, right? 'Cause Rush Limbaugh already hated us, 93 00:04:06,957 --> 00:04:09,459 and, like, hated everything that you and Dad stood for. 94 00:04:09,542 --> 00:04:12,879 So that was actually quite easy to be like, "That's not about me." Right? 95 00:04:12,963 --> 00:04:14,339 But when SNL made fun of me, 96 00:04:14,422 --> 00:04:18,093 I was like, "Wow. Like, a group of adults sat in a room…" 97 00:04:18,175 --> 00:04:19,177 [Kilmartin] Right. Mm-hmm. 98 00:04:19,261 --> 00:04:21,805 "…all decided that this was a good idea." 99 00:04:21,888 --> 00:04:25,225 Nobody thought, like, maybe we shouldn't make fun of children. 100 00:04:25,308 --> 00:04:28,395 I was, like, "Oh, I just don't think I think that's funny or okay, 101 00:04:28,478 --> 00:04:30,897 so I just don't think comedy's funny or okay." 102 00:04:30,981 --> 00:04:34,025 -That's totally understandable. -Yeah. I make fun of kids all the time. 103 00:04:34,109 --> 00:04:35,527 I've had parents take offense. 104 00:04:35,610 --> 00:04:38,321 I talk about peanut allergy. I had a woman get very upset with me. 105 00:04:38,405 --> 00:04:40,991 And I had to say to her, "Listen, this is my truth." 106 00:04:41,074 --> 00:04:42,617 You know, about the peanut allergies. 107 00:04:42,701 --> 00:04:46,329 -It's-- It's nuts, but it's my truth. -[all laugh] 108 00:04:47,247 --> 00:04:48,790 You just made the crew laugh. 109 00:04:50,458 --> 00:04:51,835 What comics do you love? 110 00:04:52,335 --> 00:04:55,797 -I don't really know the answer to that. -Ah. I'm gonna take you to Comedy Club. 111 00:04:55,881 --> 00:04:58,383 Totally. This is now an intervention I didn't know I needed. 112 00:04:58,466 --> 00:04:59,301 [all laugh] 113 00:05:05,932 --> 00:05:10,896 Chelsea, do you know what happens if you drink too much tea in Paris? 114 00:05:12,814 --> 00:05:17,485 -[Chelsea] No. -European. [laughing] 115 00:05:17,569 --> 00:05:21,156 [Chelsea] That is beneath you. No pun intended. 116 00:05:21,740 --> 00:05:22,782 [water pouring] 117 00:05:28,705 --> 00:05:30,498 [Chelsea] Some comedians are using comedy 118 00:05:30,582 --> 00:05:33,376 to shine a light on previously taboo topics, 119 00:05:33,460 --> 00:05:36,463 such as the normal operation of women's bodies. 120 00:05:36,546 --> 00:05:39,174 [Hillary] Kenya, I wanna try some tea that I have never tried before. 121 00:05:39,257 --> 00:05:41,218 -[Kenya] Do you like caffeine? -I love caffeine. 122 00:05:42,385 --> 00:05:44,763 My personal favorite is gonna be the Indian chai. 123 00:05:44,846 --> 00:05:45,680 Oh, you got it. 124 00:05:45,764 --> 00:05:49,100 -I would love to get the Alice's tea. -Amazing. 125 00:05:49,184 --> 00:05:50,477 Could I get some coffee? 126 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,314 -Wow. How dare you? -I know. I'm sorry. [chuckles] 127 00:05:54,397 --> 00:05:56,274 -I'm with you. I'm with you. -Thank you, Kenya. 128 00:05:56,358 --> 00:05:59,194 I have to tell you how great it is to see you, 129 00:05:59,277 --> 00:06:01,988 -and how healthy and happy you are… -Yes! 130 00:06:02,072 --> 00:06:07,077 …after getting through this incredible experience with endometriosis. 131 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,788 And, I mean, look, we wanna talk about comedy, 132 00:06:09,871 --> 00:06:12,540 and we wanna talk about what it is to be a comic, 133 00:06:12,624 --> 00:06:14,000 and all that you've gone through-- 134 00:06:14,084 --> 00:06:15,502 Let's not pretend you're not a woman too. 135 00:06:15,585 --> 00:06:18,713 I also, on stage, I bring my ovaries with me whenever I perform, 136 00:06:18,797 --> 00:06:20,465 so it's good that we're talking about this. 137 00:06:20,549 --> 00:06:22,676 I don't drop them at the door, right? No. 138 00:06:24,427 --> 00:06:28,056 I've always had, from my first period, debilitating cramps. 139 00:06:28,557 --> 00:06:30,517 Like, I'd be vomiting from the pain. 140 00:06:31,101 --> 00:06:33,603 And I was kind of just to-- 141 00:06:33,687 --> 00:06:37,524 Said to me, like, "Women get cramps. Suck it up." Yeah. 142 00:06:37,607 --> 00:06:40,360 And then later in life, they're like, "Go on birth control. That should help." 143 00:06:40,443 --> 00:06:42,487 Like, these-- these little Band-Aids. 144 00:06:42,571 --> 00:06:45,824 And it's tough to diagnose endometriosis unless you have surgery. 145 00:06:45,907 --> 00:06:47,867 You know, my joke about it is like, when I was like, 146 00:06:47,951 --> 00:06:49,828 "Oh, I'm-- I got a diagnosis, so what do we do?" 147 00:06:49,911 --> 00:06:52,080 They go, "Oh, we're so sorry, we haven't been able to study it, 148 00:06:52,163 --> 00:06:54,165 because it only happens to women." 149 00:06:54,249 --> 00:06:57,586 -Yes. -But there is chewable Viagra. 150 00:06:57,669 --> 00:06:59,462 So, yeah. Yeah. 151 00:07:00,046 --> 00:07:03,675 If it's a dick-mergency, they've got it covered. 152 00:07:03,758 --> 00:07:05,093 Sometimes it's hard to take a pill. 153 00:07:05,176 --> 00:07:07,721 They don't want men to ha-- You know, what if they choke on it? 154 00:07:07,804 --> 00:07:12,392 So, it tastes good, it's chewable. Isn't it sick? 155 00:07:21,318 --> 00:07:22,485 -Hey, Wanda. -Hi. 156 00:07:22,569 --> 00:07:24,446 -Oh, my gosh. -Look how great we look. 157 00:07:24,529 --> 00:07:26,823 -Do I call you Madam Secretary? -How about Hillary? 158 00:07:26,907 --> 00:07:28,408 -I'd love that. -Do you see? Like, look at her shirt. 159 00:07:28,491 --> 00:07:31,202 In case you forget our names, they're written right there. 160 00:07:31,286 --> 00:07:33,580 -These are hilarious. -Purple Laverne and Shirley-ish. 161 00:07:33,663 --> 00:07:35,206 -I like it. -I love that about it. 162 00:07:35,290 --> 00:07:37,542 -You ready to-- Let's do some bowling. -Yeah. 163 00:07:37,626 --> 00:07:39,252 -[Sykes] You have to pick out a ball. -Pick out a ball. All right. 164 00:07:39,336 --> 00:07:41,838 -Did you bring your own ball? -I have my own ball. Yes. 165 00:07:41,922 --> 00:07:45,842 -Oh, that is, like, way serious. -Yes. Chelsea, I have disposable income. 166 00:07:46,593 --> 00:07:48,428 -[Sykes] My shoes. -You what? 167 00:07:48,511 --> 00:07:51,056 [Hillary] I think we are here under false pretenses. 168 00:07:52,849 --> 00:07:53,975 Oh, my gosh, Wanda. 169 00:07:54,059 --> 00:07:57,896 I'll tell you something you did that I thought was really wonderful, 170 00:07:57,979 --> 00:08:00,899 and that's when you talked about what it's like to be postmenopausal. 171 00:08:00,982 --> 00:08:03,693 -Oh, yes. -Because nobody talks about it. 172 00:08:03,777 --> 00:08:06,655 You're living in the body you had for, you know, 40, 50 years, 173 00:08:06,738 --> 00:08:07,948 and all of a sudden, 174 00:08:08,031 --> 00:08:09,950 -it's like, out of your control. -Right. 175 00:08:10,033 --> 00:08:12,744 -You named your belly, I think? -This is Esther. Esther Roll. 176 00:08:12,827 --> 00:08:15,121 Esther Roll. She's near and dear to you. I know that. 177 00:08:15,205 --> 00:08:16,331 She is, yep. 178 00:08:16,414 --> 00:08:18,917 I knew what I was experiencing and it's like, 179 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,211 there should be a whole conversation about this. 180 00:08:21,294 --> 00:08:24,005 I think when it really hit me, was when I went to my doctor, 181 00:08:24,089 --> 00:08:27,425 and I was like, "This-- These hot flashes are unbearable. 182 00:08:27,509 --> 00:08:31,096 I'm trying to work and all of a sudden, I have to shut down filming for a minute 183 00:08:31,179 --> 00:08:33,847 'cause I'm, like, sweating like crazy. You have to give me something." 184 00:08:33,932 --> 00:08:35,517 And then she said, "Okay, well, right now 185 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,936 they're giving, uh, like, a Xanax or-or something." 186 00:08:38,019 --> 00:08:42,606 But it says a lot about women's health care and how they value us 187 00:08:42,691 --> 00:08:44,651 if the only thing that they can come up with 188 00:08:44,734 --> 00:08:46,861 is like, "Give these bitches a crazy pill." 189 00:08:46,945 --> 00:08:49,614 -We're back to the hysterical women trope. -It's-- [stammers] Exactly. 190 00:08:49,698 --> 00:08:53,618 As a comedian, you can sort of pierce the darkness 191 00:08:53,702 --> 00:08:55,620 and say, "You know what? We're gonna talk about it." 192 00:08:55,704 --> 00:08:57,372 That helps women not to feel alone. 193 00:08:57,455 --> 00:08:58,957 I'd love for you to do more on that. 194 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,626 I will, 'cause I'm still going through it. 195 00:09:02,252 --> 00:09:03,670 [Hillary] Okay. Let's bowl a little. 196 00:09:03,753 --> 00:09:05,630 -Get, like, a bowling name. -A bowling name? 197 00:09:05,714 --> 00:09:09,634 -Yeah. I'm gonna go with "Sprinkles." -"Storm." 198 00:09:09,718 --> 00:09:10,927 -Ooh. -I like the weather. 199 00:09:11,011 --> 00:09:12,470 I'll be "Whisper." 200 00:09:14,973 --> 00:09:20,103 -Quiet, but-- but potentially deadly. -"The Whisper." Okay. "The Whisper." Okay. 201 00:09:21,396 --> 00:09:24,107 We have for you a little Mad Hatter stand. 202 00:09:24,190 --> 00:09:25,525 -Amazing. Thank you. -Wow. 203 00:09:25,609 --> 00:09:27,444 You keep bringing delicious-looking things. 204 00:09:27,527 --> 00:09:30,322 -Oh, wow. -And then we got some scones for you guys. 205 00:09:30,405 --> 00:09:33,867 Look at the size of that. Those scones are illegal. 206 00:09:33,950 --> 00:09:36,369 [Hillary] Hold that. That is, like, really a special-- 207 00:09:36,453 --> 00:09:38,955 And now that my hands have been all over it, probably it's mine? 208 00:09:39,748 --> 00:09:42,375 When I told somebody that I was going to see you today, 209 00:09:42,459 --> 00:09:43,793 the response was, 210 00:09:43,877 --> 00:09:49,341 "I admire her so much for being so honest about how difficult pregnancy can be." 211 00:09:49,424 --> 00:09:51,551 In movies, you just see a woman pee on a stick 212 00:09:51,635 --> 00:09:53,762 and then she's, like, in overalls painting a barn, 213 00:09:53,845 --> 00:09:57,140 like, you know, like, laughing, like, so happy, and that's it. 214 00:09:57,224 --> 00:09:59,768 And then in my experience, like, a living hell. 215 00:09:59,851 --> 00:10:02,103 [retching] 216 00:10:03,438 --> 00:10:05,232 Help. [retches] 217 00:10:05,315 --> 00:10:06,858 Fucking love being pregnant. 218 00:10:06,942 --> 00:10:08,151 It's the shit. 219 00:10:10,278 --> 00:10:11,655 [retches] 220 00:10:13,448 --> 00:10:15,200 No one listens to women. 221 00:10:15,283 --> 00:10:17,494 Serena Williams almost died during her childbirth. 222 00:10:17,577 --> 00:10:20,205 You're not gonna listen to Serena telling you she knows something's wrong? 223 00:10:20,288 --> 00:10:22,040 -It never stops, does it? -Right? All the time. 224 00:10:22,123 --> 00:10:24,751 I know. I can't believe these women who are now out there 225 00:10:24,834 --> 00:10:26,836 protesting for their reproductive rights. 226 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,005 They must be like, "You gotta be fucking kidding me." 227 00:10:29,089 --> 00:10:30,799 [Chelsea] And you see some of the older women 228 00:10:30,882 --> 00:10:32,759 who have been at the marches with these signs. 229 00:10:32,842 --> 00:10:34,803 "I was here, like, in the 1970s." 230 00:10:34,886 --> 00:10:37,097 Yeah, I know. I thought we handled that. I thought that was over. 231 00:10:37,180 --> 00:10:39,432 I passed this big dude walking around in circles 232 00:10:39,516 --> 00:10:42,185 with a picket sign, talking about, "Stop abortion." 233 00:10:42,269 --> 00:10:44,980 I said, "Motherfucker, when was the last time you was pregnant?" 234 00:10:45,063 --> 00:10:46,398 I grew up loving Whoopi… 235 00:10:46,481 --> 00:10:48,441 There are other people there that got this funny… 236 00:10:48,525 --> 00:10:49,526 [Schumer] …and Gilda… 237 00:10:50,694 --> 00:10:53,113 …or it's like a hole or it curls around, 238 00:10:53,196 --> 00:10:55,865 or it's like a little knob on it like a door. 239 00:10:55,949 --> 00:10:57,701 -Voilà. -[audience cheers] 240 00:10:57,784 --> 00:10:58,702 …and Joan. 241 00:10:58,785 --> 00:11:00,537 Any of you that are flat-chested out here. 242 00:11:00,620 --> 00:11:03,957 This is called the push-up shove-over bra. It-- 243 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,126 No, it-it pushes from here. Everything. 244 00:11:06,209 --> 00:11:07,544 And it just push, push, push. 245 00:11:07,627 --> 00:11:11,298 All the skin has just been moved up. My belly button is right here going-- 246 00:11:11,381 --> 00:11:15,176 Margaret Cho was, like, such a huge influence. 247 00:11:15,260 --> 00:11:17,095 I'm not really allowed to say the word "vagina" 248 00:11:17,178 --> 00:11:19,764 because I don't even use mine, so… 249 00:11:19,848 --> 00:11:22,851 [audience cheering, laughing] 250 00:11:22,934 --> 00:11:23,977 Does anybody want it? 251 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:25,228 [cheering, laughing continue] 252 00:11:25,812 --> 00:11:28,148 You could put, like, books in it, or something. I don't know. 253 00:11:29,524 --> 00:11:31,234 -Use it like a planter. -[audience cheering] 254 00:11:31,318 --> 00:11:32,611 [announcer] Moms Mabley. 255 00:11:33,570 --> 00:11:34,738 [Sykes] …Jackie "Moms" Mabley. 256 00:11:34,821 --> 00:11:40,118 She would dress in an old house coat, and no teeth and a dust rag on her head. 257 00:11:40,201 --> 00:11:46,041 As a young girl seeing this Black woman just, "Here I am." Really stuck with me. 258 00:11:46,124 --> 00:11:48,460 You should remember, I did you a favor. 259 00:11:48,543 --> 00:11:50,337 I gave you my name. 260 00:11:51,004 --> 00:11:53,798 I said, "Yes, and I've got some names for you." 261 00:11:53,882 --> 00:11:55,133 [audience laughing, cheering] 262 00:11:55,217 --> 00:11:58,053 [Zayid] From the age of five, I wanted to be on General Hospital, 263 00:11:58,136 --> 00:12:00,096 like most Muslim girls in Jersey. [laughs] 264 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:02,349 And Hollywood shuns disabled people. 265 00:12:02,432 --> 00:12:05,769 So, like, where I saw people who looked like me was stand-up comedy, 266 00:12:05,852 --> 00:12:07,312 especially Richard Pryor. 267 00:12:07,395 --> 00:12:09,689 So, I was like, "Ah, I'll take a comedy class, 268 00:12:09,773 --> 00:12:12,525 I'll become a super famous comic and then I'll be on TV." 269 00:12:12,609 --> 00:12:16,613 Now, to be fair, if this makes it to TV, it'll be the first time that worked. 270 00:12:16,696 --> 00:12:18,490 -Um-- [chuckles] -[Hillary, Kilmartin laugh] 271 00:12:18,573 --> 00:12:21,451 Please make so much noise for Maysoon! 272 00:12:21,534 --> 00:12:23,870 [audience cheering, whistling] 273 00:12:28,291 --> 00:12:30,919 [microphone feedback whines] 274 00:12:31,002 --> 00:12:33,296 [Zayid] Okay. For those of you who don't know me, 275 00:12:33,380 --> 00:12:35,006 I am not drunk. 276 00:12:35,507 --> 00:12:40,428 But the doctor who delivered me was, so my brain is damaged, but it's okay. 277 00:12:40,512 --> 00:12:44,516 I got 99 problems and palsy is just one. 278 00:12:44,599 --> 00:12:45,934 [audience laughs] 279 00:12:46,017 --> 00:12:48,853 In the Oppression Olympics, I'd win a gold medal. 280 00:12:48,937 --> 00:12:53,525 I'm Palestinian, I'm Muslim, I'm a woman of color, 281 00:12:53,608 --> 00:12:57,487 I am-- [chuckles] I am divorced, I am disabled, 282 00:12:57,571 --> 00:12:59,489 and, are you ready? 283 00:12:59,990 --> 00:13:01,032 I'm from Jersey. 284 00:13:01,116 --> 00:13:02,951 -[Hillary laughs] -[audience cheering, laughing] 285 00:13:03,785 --> 00:13:06,454 Richard Pryor was a filthy, filthy man. 286 00:13:06,538 --> 00:13:10,250 And so, like, I went on stage, and I was, like, "How offensive can I be? 287 00:13:10,333 --> 00:13:13,044 Okay. I'll be a Muslim girl that tells Virgin Mary jokes." 288 00:13:13,628 --> 00:13:15,213 I didn't realize at the time at all, 289 00:13:15,297 --> 00:13:19,384 people with disabilities are so infantilized and asexualized, 290 00:13:19,467 --> 00:13:21,887 so when I got on stage and talked about sex, 291 00:13:21,970 --> 00:13:22,971 people were like… [gasps] 292 00:13:23,054 --> 00:13:25,056 "It's a Muslim talking about sex, 293 00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:27,392 and it's a disabled Muslim talking about sex." 294 00:13:27,475 --> 00:13:29,561 And it kind of, like, blew their minds. 295 00:13:29,644 --> 00:13:33,315 Single people, nobody ever warns you about the fact 296 00:13:33,398 --> 00:13:36,735 that your spouse's habits get annoying super quick. 297 00:13:36,818 --> 00:13:40,488 The habit that he had that just drove me bonkers, 298 00:13:40,572 --> 00:13:43,992 and it was, like, the end, was the constant breathing. 299 00:13:44,075 --> 00:13:47,704 It was like, inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale. 300 00:13:47,787 --> 00:13:50,332 I was like, "Can you just stop for five minutes? 301 00:13:50,415 --> 00:13:52,709 I did at birth, and I'm totally fine." 302 00:13:52,792 --> 00:13:54,085 [laughing] 303 00:13:55,253 --> 00:13:57,589 [bell chiming] 304 00:14:01,676 --> 00:14:03,887 You know, I love all these old storefronts. 305 00:14:03,970 --> 00:14:05,180 [Hillary] Oh, you know, 306 00:14:05,263 --> 00:14:08,391 this fromagerie had a terrible explosion. 307 00:14:08,475 --> 00:14:09,684 [Chelsea] How did you know that? 308 00:14:09,768 --> 00:14:12,771 All that was left was debris. [laughs] 309 00:14:14,022 --> 00:14:16,608 Was I supposed to laugh? Sorry, I didn't think that was very funny. 310 00:14:17,525 --> 00:14:21,821 [Hillary] But Chelsea and I didn't just come to Paris to make cheesy jokes. 311 00:14:22,405 --> 00:14:25,283 Paris is renowned as the home of clowning. 312 00:14:25,367 --> 00:14:28,745 And we came to meet with the master clown, Philippe Gaulier. 313 00:14:29,329 --> 00:14:32,123 [Chelsea] Philippe's been training clowns for over 50 years. 314 00:14:32,207 --> 00:14:36,711 His students include Emma Thompson and Sacha Baron Cohen. 315 00:14:38,547 --> 00:14:40,173 It was a disaster. 316 00:14:41,508 --> 00:14:43,426 Nobody was laughing. 317 00:14:45,136 --> 00:14:46,388 Disaster. 318 00:14:48,390 --> 00:14:51,893 Philippe, how did you come from a family of a pharmacist 319 00:14:51,977 --> 00:14:56,439 to end up as being one of the premier comedy clowning experts? 320 00:14:56,523 --> 00:15:00,944 People, they never know why someone is idiot 321 00:15:01,361 --> 00:15:04,656 -and crazy in a family. -[Chelsea] And that was you? 322 00:15:04,739 --> 00:15:06,575 -Yeah. -No. 323 00:15:06,658 --> 00:15:08,910 Yes. I was very, very bad boy. 324 00:15:08,994 --> 00:15:10,328 You were a bad boy. 325 00:15:10,412 --> 00:15:14,082 It's good to remember clown is a mistake. 326 00:15:14,165 --> 00:15:15,750 -Yeah. -[Chelsea] A beautiful mistake. 327 00:15:15,834 --> 00:15:16,835 Beautiful mistake. 328 00:15:16,918 --> 00:15:20,714 Many mistakes are not beautiful, but this one is beautiful. 329 00:15:20,797 --> 00:15:23,717 [Chelsea] To get a taste of the Clown School experience, 330 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,635 we took a class with Lee Delong, 331 00:15:25,719 --> 00:15:31,016 who has taken clowning all over the world, including to war zones. 332 00:15:31,516 --> 00:15:34,561 [Delong] Isn't it very fitting that here we are, 333 00:15:34,644 --> 00:15:37,230 on the stage of the Moulin Rouge, 334 00:15:37,314 --> 00:15:40,567 where some of the first female clowns ever performed? 335 00:15:40,650 --> 00:15:45,655 Cha-U-Kao, La Goulue, La Môme Fromage. They were here. 336 00:15:46,156 --> 00:15:50,577 All of those women, who ended in poverty, neglected and forgotten, 337 00:15:50,660 --> 00:15:54,873 they were the forerunners of what is clown in France for women today. 338 00:15:55,457 --> 00:15:57,959 We are about to embark on a voyage. 339 00:15:58,543 --> 00:16:04,466 This is a voyage into our authenticity, our naïveté, our vulnerability. 340 00:16:04,549 --> 00:16:07,761 Where we learn that our weaknesses are strength. 341 00:16:07,844 --> 00:16:09,012 It's the world of the clown. 342 00:16:09,095 --> 00:16:13,516 And we are going to do that little journey with the aid of this. 343 00:16:14,017 --> 00:16:16,269 The tiniest mask in the world. 344 00:16:16,353 --> 00:16:17,771 Put your noses on. 345 00:16:18,605 --> 00:16:20,315 Hillary, your nose. 346 00:16:21,524 --> 00:16:23,485 What a bunch of clowns. 347 00:16:24,236 --> 00:16:26,321 [indistinct dialogue] 348 00:16:39,167 --> 00:16:40,210 She's taking notes. 349 00:16:40,293 --> 00:16:41,461 [Delong whispering] Hillary. 350 00:16:46,007 --> 00:16:47,217 That was bad. Oh, yeah. 351 00:16:50,178 --> 00:16:54,808 If you're doing stand-up, you are out there all by yourself. 352 00:16:54,891 --> 00:16:56,017 It's you. 353 00:16:56,101 --> 00:16:58,311 And the audience is not always on your side. 354 00:16:58,395 --> 00:16:59,229 No. 355 00:16:59,312 --> 00:17:02,190 And in fact, some people are rooting for you to fail. 356 00:17:02,274 --> 00:17:04,359 So, being a comic, in general, 357 00:17:04,441 --> 00:17:08,112 but certainly being a woman, who is putting herself out there, 358 00:17:08,612 --> 00:17:11,283 -I just think that's gutsy. -It-It-It does take courage. 359 00:17:11,366 --> 00:17:12,409 -That is gutsy. -It is gutsy. 360 00:17:12,492 --> 00:17:14,035 That's how I got on this show, I think. 361 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,204 -Almost. Um-- [laughs] -Yeah. You got it. [laughs] 362 00:17:16,287 --> 00:17:20,041 'Cause I did go through ten years of being, like, majorly trolled. 363 00:17:20,125 --> 00:17:21,668 You won't be able to relate to this. 364 00:17:21,751 --> 00:17:24,838 -No, not at all. -Majorly trolled on the Internet. 365 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,674 And you just-- I just got so numb to it. 366 00:17:27,757 --> 00:17:30,176 [Hillary stammers] You had no right to be a funny woman. 367 00:17:30,260 --> 00:17:32,596 -No, I really used to think-- -And certainly not in public. 368 00:17:32,679 --> 00:17:34,097 You guys know this more than anyone. 369 00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:36,016 It's like, we want this other version of women. 370 00:17:36,099 --> 00:17:40,020 We want you to be pretty and quiet, and effusive, and you-- 371 00:17:40,103 --> 00:17:41,730 And only a supporting cast member. 372 00:17:41,813 --> 00:17:43,398 -Absolutely. -[Hillary] Yeah. Absolutely. 373 00:17:43,481 --> 00:17:46,067 Lucille Ball had some quote, like, "If you're alone out there, 374 00:17:46,151 --> 00:17:48,945 there's no way to take it except for highly personally." [chuckles] 375 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:50,947 [audience laughing, cheering] 376 00:17:51,948 --> 00:17:54,284 [Palamides] People always think of birthday clowns 377 00:17:54,367 --> 00:17:56,494 -and, like, the white face paint and-- -[Hillary] Yeah. 378 00:17:56,578 --> 00:18:00,332 So I think people don't really know what clown is, 379 00:18:00,415 --> 00:18:02,626 but when they're watching it, they'll enjoy it. 380 00:18:02,709 --> 00:18:05,754 Well, fine. You're doing splendidly. 381 00:18:05,837 --> 00:18:07,464 Speed it up a little! 382 00:18:07,547 --> 00:18:08,548 [audience laughs] 383 00:18:08,632 --> 00:18:10,842 [Palamides] Like Lucille Ball, she's a clown. 384 00:18:11,468 --> 00:18:13,803 When she's shoving a bunch of chocolates in her mouth, 385 00:18:13,887 --> 00:18:15,055 like, that's a clown bit. 386 00:18:15,138 --> 00:18:17,557 -Wouldn't you say? -[Gaulier] No, no. I am okay. 387 00:18:17,641 --> 00:18:18,892 Yeah. Yeah. [laughs] 388 00:18:19,768 --> 00:18:23,563 Philippe, what's the difference for a woman in comedy 389 00:18:23,647 --> 00:18:24,981 than a man in comedy? 390 00:18:25,065 --> 00:18:26,483 Can they do the same thing? 391 00:18:26,566 --> 00:18:30,654 Comedy is okay but clown is more difficult. 392 00:18:30,737 --> 00:18:31,613 Yes. 393 00:18:31,696 --> 00:18:35,325 Because if you are, uh, young boy, 394 00:18:36,076 --> 00:18:41,331 you come home, your costume is completely dirty, your-- 395 00:18:41,414 --> 00:18:43,458 Your mother still love you. 396 00:18:43,541 --> 00:18:44,584 -Yeah. -[Hillary] Mmm. 397 00:18:44,668 --> 00:18:50,006 If you are a girl, it's not sure your father still love you. 398 00:18:50,090 --> 00:18:52,008 Uh, so, for a woman, 399 00:18:52,092 --> 00:18:57,597 it's more dangerous to be idiot like for a man. 400 00:18:57,681 --> 00:18:59,766 And we can see when you teach, 401 00:19:00,684 --> 00:19:04,479 woman wants to be charming clown. 402 00:19:04,563 --> 00:19:05,397 Mmm. 403 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,693 But I knew some women. A monster. [growls] 404 00:19:09,776 --> 00:19:12,112 Fantastic, but not so many. 405 00:19:12,696 --> 00:19:14,239 I think I'm more of a monster. 406 00:19:14,322 --> 00:19:18,451 -[screaming] -[audience cheering] 407 00:19:18,535 --> 00:19:21,830 [groans, screams] 408 00:19:21,913 --> 00:19:26,751 When my mom watches my shows, she's always upset that I'm not ladylike. 409 00:19:27,252 --> 00:19:28,712 -[Chelsea] Still? -Yeah, yeah. 410 00:19:28,795 --> 00:19:32,132 You-you are a naughty girl, no? 411 00:19:32,215 --> 00:19:35,093 -I'm a bad girl. Very ba-- Very bad. -[Gaulier] Yeah? Yeah. 412 00:19:35,176 --> 00:19:36,970 [audience cheers] 413 00:19:37,762 --> 00:19:40,307 [Hillary] Your latest piece is called Nate, 414 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:43,894 which is the masculine version of your name, right? 415 00:19:43,977 --> 00:19:46,021 [Palamides] Yeah. I'm in drag. 416 00:19:46,104 --> 00:19:49,065 I use discomfort with the audience to create tensions. 417 00:19:49,149 --> 00:19:50,859 I'm playing with the idea of consent. 418 00:19:50,942 --> 00:19:56,114 -I reach out towards somebody's breasts. -Don't scare me. 419 00:19:56,197 --> 00:19:57,782 -[laughing] -I-- [laughs] 420 00:19:57,866 --> 00:19:59,367 -Are you scared? -I'm sure-- I'm not scared of you. 421 00:19:59,451 --> 00:20:00,994 -You can reach toward me. -I'll reach for it. 422 00:20:01,077 --> 00:20:03,163 -I reach toward somebody's breasts… -Yeah. 423 00:20:03,246 --> 00:20:04,956 -…very slowly. -I feel like I've met you. 424 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,041 -Yeah. -[Hillary laughing] 425 00:20:06,124 --> 00:20:07,584 -What happens? -This is a moment. 426 00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:09,211 -And then I say… -We're having a moment. 427 00:20:10,503 --> 00:20:13,381 -May I? -[audience laughs] 428 00:20:16,301 --> 00:20:18,094 -May I? -Sure. 429 00:20:18,178 --> 00:20:19,429 Oh. And then… 430 00:20:21,097 --> 00:20:22,098 You little twap. 431 00:20:22,182 --> 00:20:24,309 -And then I grab her breasts. -[chuckles] 432 00:20:24,392 --> 00:20:26,144 First person since my husband to touch me there. 433 00:20:26,228 --> 00:20:28,021 -We just had this moment. -We did. 434 00:20:28,104 --> 00:20:29,814 All you gotta do is ask. Thank you for letting me. 435 00:20:30,482 --> 00:20:33,985 -[in deep voice] Solid. [chuckles] -[audience laughs] 436 00:20:34,569 --> 00:20:36,780 -All you gotta do is ask. -[audience laughs] 437 00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:39,908 When you create tension with stillness, 438 00:20:39,991 --> 00:20:42,744 or people are scared they don't know what you're gonna do, 439 00:20:42,827 --> 00:20:44,496 it's easy to break it. 440 00:20:44,579 --> 00:20:45,997 But you know the person? 441 00:20:46,081 --> 00:20:47,624 -No. -No, I know nobody. 442 00:20:47,707 --> 00:20:49,876 -[Chelsea] We met yesterday. -But people is laughing, 443 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,961 or are scared? 444 00:20:51,044 --> 00:20:53,255 People laugh. And then this gets a laugh too. 445 00:20:53,338 --> 00:20:58,593 So, I'm like this for the boobs, and then I go like this for… 446 00:20:59,177 --> 00:21:00,595 [Hillary laughs] 447 00:21:00,679 --> 00:21:02,305 -Yeah, [stammers] I would be scared. -You know. 448 00:21:04,683 --> 00:21:07,310 [audience laughing and cheering] 449 00:21:07,394 --> 00:21:09,938 [Kilmartin] My son, when he was ten, I decided I was going to read him 450 00:21:10,021 --> 00:21:12,023 The Diary of Anne Frank. 451 00:21:12,107 --> 00:21:14,150 Because I was like, I want a female protagonist. 452 00:21:14,234 --> 00:21:15,986 I want him to learn some history. 453 00:21:16,069 --> 00:21:19,698 And as it turns out, ten years old is way too young for that book. 454 00:21:19,781 --> 00:21:20,949 [audience chuckling] 455 00:21:21,032 --> 00:21:23,994 A lot happens in that book. First of all, she gets her period. 456 00:21:24,953 --> 00:21:27,122 And my son goes, "What's a period?" 457 00:21:27,205 --> 00:21:30,000 And I go, "Oh, well, you know, when girls are Anne's age, 458 00:21:30,083 --> 00:21:31,251 they start to menstruate. 459 00:21:31,334 --> 00:21:34,713 And that means once a month, blood flows uncontrollably 460 00:21:35,422 --> 00:21:39,175 out of their vaginas for four to 15 days…" 461 00:21:39,259 --> 00:21:41,469 [audience laughing] 462 00:21:41,553 --> 00:21:42,888 "…depending on the girl." 463 00:21:44,472 --> 00:21:49,477 To watch someone hear that information for the very first time-- [kisses] 464 00:21:50,228 --> 00:21:51,771 Um, he went into a panic, 465 00:21:51,855 --> 00:21:54,190 one hand right to the crotch, 466 00:21:54,274 --> 00:21:57,068 'cause he thought it would start bleeding uncontrollably. 467 00:21:57,152 --> 00:21:59,738 And the other hand went up to block more information. 468 00:21:59,821 --> 00:22:04,618 So, it was like a two-handed dance for, like, a minute, right? 469 00:22:04,701 --> 00:22:07,037 And then he calms down and I pick up the book again, 470 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,832 and he goes, "Wow, I hope no more bad things happen to Anne Frank." 471 00:22:10,916 --> 00:22:14,044 [audience laughing] 472 00:22:14,127 --> 00:22:18,131 You're breaking barriers with race. You're breaking barriers with disability. 473 00:22:18,215 --> 00:22:20,091 -And you're breaking barriers with death. -Mmm. 474 00:22:20,175 --> 00:22:22,594 -[laughs] -I mean, how funny is that? 475 00:22:22,677 --> 00:22:25,138 -Well, people kept dying on me, so… -[chuckles] 476 00:22:25,222 --> 00:22:27,933 …I didn't-- [stammers] Believe me. I don't want that to be my specialty. 477 00:22:28,016 --> 00:22:30,143 -But, uh-- -[all laughing] 478 00:22:30,227 --> 00:22:33,897 My mom died from COVID, and I tell the audience, "Look…" 479 00:22:33,980 --> 00:22:37,901 'Cause they all kind of gasp a little bit. And I'm like, "My mom, ha-ha." 480 00:22:37,984 --> 00:22:39,444 -And, uh-- -[laughing] 481 00:22:39,527 --> 00:22:41,446 -[audience laughs] -Yeah. You like the Anne Frank stuff. 482 00:22:41,529 --> 00:22:43,156 I think you can handle it. 483 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,159 So I say, "Look, my mom died of COVID. I'm a stand-up comic. 484 00:22:46,243 --> 00:22:48,245 I'm telling jokes about it. Buckle up, pussies." 485 00:22:48,328 --> 00:22:49,412 And they go, "Okay." 486 00:22:49,496 --> 00:22:51,414 And it may be comedy has moved a little bit. 487 00:22:51,498 --> 00:22:53,792 I think people are more comfortable with edgy topics, 488 00:22:53,875 --> 00:22:56,878 maybe a little bit more than they were, like, five or seven years ago. 489 00:22:56,962 --> 00:22:59,923 My mom was a Trump supporter who died of COVID, 490 00:23:00,006 --> 00:23:02,217 so the coroner ruled her death a suicide. 491 00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:05,679 [audience laughing] 492 00:23:06,638 --> 00:23:09,391 -[Palamides] Ah. -[chuckling] 493 00:23:10,642 --> 00:23:14,104 -Ah. -[chuckles] 494 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,651 [sucks teeth] 495 00:23:19,734 --> 00:23:21,736 Excuse me, did I laugh? 496 00:23:24,155 --> 00:23:26,241 There was a moment where you realized, 497 00:23:26,324 --> 00:23:28,952 "What I'm doing is a failure." [chuckles] 498 00:23:29,035 --> 00:23:32,872 "Nobody's la--" And that is where you need to go. 499 00:23:32,956 --> 00:23:34,416 The flop. 500 00:23:34,499 --> 00:23:37,502 In clowning, unlike any other art form 501 00:23:37,586 --> 00:23:40,881 that I'm aware of, the flop is necessary. 502 00:23:40,964 --> 00:23:42,591 The flop is really important. 503 00:23:42,674 --> 00:23:47,470 You do something, you think it's funny, nobody laugh. 504 00:23:47,554 --> 00:23:50,181 -[Hillary] Mm-hmm. -Nobody. It's a silence. 505 00:23:50,265 --> 00:23:55,478 Either you commit a suicide, or you save the situation 506 00:23:55,562 --> 00:23:58,899 and you do another thing you think is funny. 507 00:23:58,982 --> 00:24:01,610 If people laugh, you save the flop. 508 00:24:01,693 --> 00:24:03,904 Everybody love you again. 509 00:24:03,987 --> 00:24:06,990 -[Palamides] Yeah. -They applaud, and you carry on the show. 510 00:24:07,073 --> 00:24:09,534 -Poof, another flop. -Mm-hmm. 511 00:24:09,618 --> 00:24:13,038 Clown is like finding the gold in the failures. 512 00:24:13,121 --> 00:24:16,666 That's a part of why clown is so difficult for some people to break into, 513 00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:22,172 because they have to allow themselves to fail in order to get to the part 514 00:24:22,255 --> 00:24:24,257 where you have to save-- to save it. 515 00:24:24,341 --> 00:24:27,010 'Cause if you don't flop, there's nothing to save. 516 00:24:27,093 --> 00:24:29,095 -Such a metaphor for life. -It really is. 517 00:24:30,180 --> 00:24:32,057 -More? -[chuckles] You tell me. 518 00:24:32,140 --> 00:24:33,183 [chuckles] 519 00:24:36,478 --> 00:24:38,813 Is this what you-- This what you want? 520 00:24:38,897 --> 00:24:41,524 [laughing] 521 00:24:41,608 --> 00:24:43,610 -Okay. -[laughing continues] 522 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:54,079 A lot of people, and especially women, you get knocked down. 523 00:24:55,038 --> 00:24:57,749 -You fail, but in public, right? -Yeah. 524 00:24:58,583 --> 00:25:01,586 You wanna just never do that again. 525 00:25:01,670 --> 00:25:04,589 And we are afflicted with what I call the perfectionist gene. 526 00:25:04,673 --> 00:25:05,674 [Palamides] Mm-hmm. 527 00:25:05,757 --> 00:25:07,342 -Too many women… -I have that, yeah. 528 00:25:07,425 --> 00:25:09,010 -…young women, particularly, -So do I. 529 00:25:09,094 --> 00:25:12,264 they have to be perfect. They have to look perfect. 530 00:25:12,347 --> 00:25:14,975 They have to act perfect. They have to speak perfect. 531 00:25:15,058 --> 00:25:19,604 [Gaulier] But when you teach clown, you learn, "Don't be perfect." 532 00:25:19,688 --> 00:25:21,481 -[Hillary] That's right. -Never. 533 00:25:21,565 --> 00:25:24,317 -[Chelsea] That was terrible. -Okay. That-- That's not good. 534 00:25:24,401 --> 00:25:25,819 [laughing] That was not good. 535 00:25:25,902 --> 00:25:27,654 [Sykes] You're bowling under Sprinkles. 536 00:25:27,737 --> 00:25:31,157 Sprinkles should not have to carry that terrible performance. 537 00:25:31,241 --> 00:25:33,118 Trust me, I will change that. 538 00:25:33,201 --> 00:25:35,579 -I got-- I gotta get closer-- -You have this. 539 00:25:35,662 --> 00:25:37,872 Does she? It's unclear to me. 540 00:25:38,456 --> 00:25:40,625 [Hillary] Don't fall in the gutter, please! 541 00:25:40,709 --> 00:25:43,211 -[Sykes] Hell, I got-- Ah, ah, ah. -Oh. It got further down. 542 00:25:43,295 --> 00:25:44,254 I'ma help you out. 543 00:25:44,337 --> 00:25:46,298 -Show us what you've got. -I need you to focus. 544 00:25:46,381 --> 00:25:48,842 I'm not promising anything. I haven't bowled in a while. 545 00:25:48,925 --> 00:25:50,802 [Hillary] Oh, come on. Look at her. 546 00:25:50,886 --> 00:25:52,637 -[Sykes] Oh. -[Chelsea] Oh, come on. 547 00:25:52,721 --> 00:25:54,514 Even your, like, foot is in good posture. 548 00:25:54,598 --> 00:25:56,766 Always look like you know what you're doing. 549 00:25:56,850 --> 00:25:58,768 That is true. I got to work on that. 550 00:25:59,644 --> 00:26:01,521 -Wanda, when you write comedy… -Uh-huh. 551 00:26:01,605 --> 00:26:05,275 …are you at all thinking about whether you can use comedy 552 00:26:05,358 --> 00:26:07,819 to make a change about something you really care about? 553 00:26:07,903 --> 00:26:10,363 It's more about can I start a dialogue, you know? 554 00:26:10,447 --> 00:26:12,324 -Which could lead to change? -Exactly. 555 00:26:12,407 --> 00:26:14,534 I don't believe that I'm gonna say something 556 00:26:14,618 --> 00:26:18,330 and it's gonna lightbulb go off, and people go, "Oh, she's right." 557 00:26:18,413 --> 00:26:19,873 It's just more about, 558 00:26:19,956 --> 00:26:21,708 -"Let me think about that." -Yeah. 559 00:26:21,791 --> 00:26:24,461 [Schumer] I love that I can advocate for something through a joke, 560 00:26:24,544 --> 00:26:26,588 but people don't want to feel like they're being taught. 561 00:26:26,671 --> 00:26:28,715 So it's, you know, shaved carrots in the brownies. 562 00:26:28,798 --> 00:26:30,550 I mean, some stuff is just silly. 563 00:26:30,634 --> 00:26:32,844 Like I'm talking on stage about how it's stupid to have a pet bird. 564 00:26:32,928 --> 00:26:35,513 That's not helping anybody. That's not saving a life. 565 00:26:35,597 --> 00:26:37,515 But then, everything I say is 566 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:42,145 trying to mostly make people, but women, laugh and feel better. 567 00:26:42,229 --> 00:26:43,897 I'm gonna drink to that. Here you go, my dear. 568 00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:45,357 Cheers. 569 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,904 I like the idea of going in where I think there's potential backlash waiting for me. 570 00:26:50,987 --> 00:26:55,492 I think for American women, the best decade was the '70s, you know? 571 00:26:55,575 --> 00:27:00,705 Like in 1974, we got the right to have a credit card in our own name. 572 00:27:00,789 --> 00:27:04,459 And a lot of people don't know that-- this is-- the reason we got that in '74, 573 00:27:04,542 --> 00:27:07,879 is in '73 we got the right to have an abortion. 574 00:27:07,963 --> 00:27:10,715 And women in '73 started having abortions, and they were like, 575 00:27:10,799 --> 00:27:12,926 "You know what? I'd like to start putting these on a card." 576 00:27:13,009 --> 00:27:15,845 [audience laughing] 577 00:27:15,929 --> 00:27:18,640 It's the challenge of a comic to try to convert people, you know? 578 00:27:18,723 --> 00:27:21,017 And when you go up and you get this, it's like, 579 00:27:21,101 --> 00:27:23,478 I want the arms down by the end of my set 580 00:27:23,562 --> 00:27:28,275 and get people to laugh at stuff that I think they wouldn't normally. 581 00:27:28,358 --> 00:27:31,570 We are already fighting enough battles just being women. 582 00:27:31,653 --> 00:27:32,696 Mm-hmm. 583 00:27:32,779 --> 00:27:34,197 I don't want to add anything else. 584 00:27:34,281 --> 00:27:37,158 If you don't get it, you don't get it. If I can't change you, I can't change you. 585 00:27:37,242 --> 00:27:38,702 'Cause, guess what? For the most part, 586 00:27:38,785 --> 00:27:42,789 a lot of people who are ignorant on race or disability, they've been taught that. 587 00:27:42,872 --> 00:27:44,416 They gotta unlearn that shit themselves. 588 00:27:44,499 --> 00:27:46,001 -Hello? -[audience laughing] 589 00:27:46,084 --> 00:27:47,752 Here, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty. 590 00:27:47,836 --> 00:27:50,171 [audience laughing] 591 00:27:50,255 --> 00:27:53,592 Shit, he can grab me in the pussy, 'cause my pussy grab back. Okay? 592 00:27:53,675 --> 00:27:54,676 [laughing continues] 593 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:57,095 He'd have put his hands down here, I be, "Cuckoo." [chuckles] 594 00:27:58,221 --> 00:28:00,390 I'd have crab-walked that nigga all the way to the White House. 595 00:28:00,473 --> 00:28:03,143 "You together with me now, nigga. We got four years." 596 00:28:03,226 --> 00:28:05,145 [audience laughing] 597 00:28:05,228 --> 00:28:08,982 I'm doing a lot of, like, Trump material, and they're in places where I'm like, 598 00:28:09,065 --> 00:28:11,568 -"Okay, maybe I shouldn't be doing it." -Yeah. 599 00:28:11,651 --> 00:28:13,528 But it's also just fun. 600 00:28:13,612 --> 00:28:14,821 When I tell the crowd, I'm like, 601 00:28:14,905 --> 00:28:18,700 "Well, we allow white men to be in spaces that they don't deserve, 602 00:28:18,783 --> 00:28:20,452 so this is how he became president, 603 00:28:20,535 --> 00:28:21,620 but everybody's shocked." 604 00:28:21,703 --> 00:28:23,747 Like, this is the first time you're identifying 605 00:28:23,830 --> 00:28:25,749 that a white man can do whatever he wants in this country? 606 00:28:25,832 --> 00:28:27,292 "Hello. Welcome to our world." 607 00:28:27,375 --> 00:28:28,877 -[laughs] -Right. Where have you been? 608 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,421 It's also for the Black people that are in the audience 609 00:28:31,504 --> 00:28:33,256 that are tired of all the shit. 610 00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:35,592 And it's like somebody's finally saying something to them 611 00:28:35,675 --> 00:28:37,344 without worrying about a barrier. 612 00:28:37,427 --> 00:28:39,846 When I tell white people about themselves, they get uncomfortable. 613 00:28:39,930 --> 00:28:41,723 It's gonna be okay. 614 00:28:41,806 --> 00:28:43,850 This is not the first time 615 00:28:43,934 --> 00:28:48,980 we've elected a racist, sexist, homophobic president. 616 00:28:49,064 --> 00:28:54,778 This-- He ain't the first one. He's just the first confirmed one. 617 00:28:54,861 --> 00:28:56,780 We were at the Garden right after the election. 618 00:28:56,863 --> 00:29:00,408 You followed other comedians who were making jokes about Trump, 619 00:29:00,492 --> 00:29:02,702 and the audience responded to the others. 620 00:29:02,786 --> 00:29:03,828 -Well… -Right? 621 00:29:03,912 --> 00:29:05,413 -…the straight white males… -Yeah. 622 00:29:05,497 --> 00:29:07,123 …who were making the jokes. Uh-huh. 623 00:29:07,207 --> 00:29:09,167 -And you got up and, basically… -Yeah. 624 00:29:09,251 --> 00:29:11,086 -…also made some jokes. -It was nuts. 625 00:29:11,169 --> 00:29:13,922 -[audience clamoring] -How can you say he's not sexist? 626 00:29:14,005 --> 00:29:16,591 -How can you say he's not racist? -[clamoring continues] 627 00:29:16,675 --> 00:29:19,261 How can you say he's not homophobic? 628 00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:22,597 The crowd just divided. 629 00:29:22,681 --> 00:29:23,932 Like, half were booing me. 630 00:29:24,015 --> 00:29:27,143 The other half was telling the other half to, you know, to shut up. 631 00:29:27,227 --> 00:29:29,604 And there was, like, physical fights broke out… 632 00:29:29,688 --> 00:29:31,731 -You're kidding. Oh, my gosh. -…in the audience. Yeah. 633 00:29:31,815 --> 00:29:34,025 I mean, some were shouting the N-word at me. 634 00:29:34,109 --> 00:29:35,944 -I mean, it was ugly. -Oh, my gosh! 635 00:29:36,027 --> 00:29:39,281 I was like, "Okay, I got to bring this back together somehow." 636 00:29:39,364 --> 00:29:40,865 I knew I wasn't gonna walk off the stage. 637 00:29:40,949 --> 00:29:43,451 -No way in the world. Like, screw it. -No, never walk off the stage. 638 00:29:43,535 --> 00:29:45,328 -And said some few choice words. -Mm-hmm. 639 00:29:45,412 --> 00:29:47,289 And I even started calling out sections. 640 00:29:47,372 --> 00:29:49,040 -"F you, section 220!" -[laughs] 641 00:29:49,124 --> 00:29:53,962 -[audience clamoring] -F you, you, you, you, you. All of y'all. 642 00:29:54,045 --> 00:29:56,006 Then I was like, okay, let me bring it back together. 643 00:29:56,089 --> 00:29:59,134 And so I was like, "Hey, look, we're here for an amazing cause." 644 00:29:59,217 --> 00:30:01,344 -"Hopefully we all agree on that still." -Yeah, right. 645 00:30:01,428 --> 00:30:04,431 And then I shared with them of my breast cancer survivor story, 646 00:30:04,514 --> 00:30:06,391 and then I-- And I had jokes about that. 647 00:30:06,474 --> 00:30:09,394 And we kinda got back together and then said good night. 648 00:30:09,477 --> 00:30:12,022 My wife runs out on stage, which she never does, 649 00:30:12,105 --> 00:30:15,066 and gives me a big kiss. And she throws up the peace sign. 650 00:30:15,150 --> 00:30:16,943 -Of course, I'm a little less classy. -[chuckles] 651 00:30:17,027 --> 00:30:18,820 I didn't seen the peace. I only saw one finger. 652 00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,447 -I'm like, "Yeah, baby. Let's--" -[laughing] 653 00:30:20,530 --> 00:30:23,074 And I was like, "Oh. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah." 654 00:30:23,158 --> 00:30:25,869 But, of course, the front page was me, you know… 655 00:30:25,952 --> 00:30:28,204 -Uh, keep it classy. Keep it classy. -[chuckles] I mean, you know. 656 00:30:28,288 --> 00:30:29,289 -[laughing] -Keep it classy. 657 00:30:29,372 --> 00:30:31,249 But sometimes, you gotta fight fire with fire. 658 00:30:31,333 --> 00:30:32,334 [Sykes] Yeah. 659 00:30:32,417 --> 00:30:35,712 [Hillary] You know who I think has made great use of humor? 660 00:30:35,795 --> 00:30:39,799 Her work at the highest levels, who you know very well, 661 00:30:39,883 --> 00:30:43,178 is former Secretary Madeleine Albright, our dear friend. 662 00:30:43,261 --> 00:30:47,224 I must have done fairly well as the first woman Secretary of State 663 00:30:47,307 --> 00:30:51,895 because these days they hardly even consider men for that job. 664 00:30:51,978 --> 00:30:53,271 [audience laughing] 665 00:30:53,355 --> 00:30:55,690 She mastered the art 666 00:30:56,358 --> 00:31:01,863 of literally speaking and making points, often humorous ones, 667 00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:03,698 with the pins that she wore. 668 00:31:07,369 --> 00:31:10,455 This started after the first Gulf War, 669 00:31:10,538 --> 00:31:14,751 when one of Saddam Hussein's henchmen called her a serpent. 670 00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:20,173 And so the next time she went to see Saddam Hussein, 671 00:31:20,257 --> 00:31:23,093 she wore a big serpent pin, 672 00:31:23,176 --> 00:31:27,639 which was an elegant but smart way of making the point. 673 00:31:27,722 --> 00:31:29,683 "Look, I'm listening and I'm watching." 674 00:31:29,766 --> 00:31:34,646 Going to negotiate with the Russians over an anti-ballistic missile treaty, 675 00:31:34,729 --> 00:31:38,108 she found a pin in her collection that looked like a missile. 676 00:31:38,191 --> 00:31:40,485 [Chelsea] Which she just happened to have lying around. 677 00:31:40,569 --> 00:31:42,737 -[chuckles] She had so many pins. -As one does. 678 00:31:42,821 --> 00:31:44,030 She used to wear pins just-- 679 00:31:44,114 --> 00:31:46,157 What do I have that looks like a nuclear warhead? 680 00:31:46,908 --> 00:31:48,368 [Hillary] One of the Russians said, 681 00:31:48,451 --> 00:31:51,496 "Oh, so, that one of the missiles you have aimed at us?" 682 00:31:51,580 --> 00:31:53,873 -[Chelsea chuckles] Rather pointy. -[chuckles] Exactly. 683 00:31:53,957 --> 00:31:55,667 She goes, "Yeah, well, you just better watch it." 684 00:31:55,750 --> 00:32:01,506 I like to think, kind of, that gave other people comfort 685 00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:04,634 in figuring how to take something that maybe was meant as an insult… 686 00:32:04,718 --> 00:32:06,386 -Mmm, right. -…and turn it around… 687 00:32:06,469 --> 00:32:08,430 -Right. Right. -…to maybe something beautiful, 688 00:32:08,513 --> 00:32:11,558 maybe something provocative, maybe something funny. 689 00:32:11,641 --> 00:32:13,268 To kind of reflect and deflect. 690 00:32:13,351 --> 00:32:14,978 [chuckles] That's exactly right. 691 00:32:17,188 --> 00:32:19,774 I have one question. It's the debate. 692 00:32:19,858 --> 00:32:22,694 It was a surreal experience, 693 00:32:22,777 --> 00:32:24,029 as he's stalking me… 694 00:32:24,112 --> 00:32:26,948 -Yeah. -…and leering and looming over me, 695 00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:30,911 do I turn around and say, "Back off, you creep"? 696 00:32:30,994 --> 00:32:35,248 Or if I try to make a joke out of it, I could just see the pundits 697 00:32:35,332 --> 00:32:37,125 -who are predominantly men, all saying… -Yes. 698 00:32:37,208 --> 00:32:40,962 "How can she stand up against fill-in-the-blank leader? 699 00:32:41,046 --> 00:32:43,715 Can't take somebody stalking her on a stage." 700 00:32:43,798 --> 00:32:46,176 It's like what you were describing from Boston. 701 00:32:46,259 --> 00:32:50,096 It becomes your responsibility to try to bring everybody back together. 702 00:32:50,180 --> 00:32:52,849 Right. And it's just so tiring, 703 00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:55,310 the mental hoops that we have to jump through 704 00:32:55,393 --> 00:32:58,521 to say what we feel instead of having to think about, 705 00:32:58,605 --> 00:33:02,275 "Wait a minute, how is this gonna go over? I'm a woman. How is this gonna go?" 706 00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:03,777 Where men never have to do that. 707 00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:05,862 [Hillary] Was there a good joke I should have come up with? 708 00:33:05,946 --> 00:33:07,364 I think a joke would have worked. 709 00:33:07,447 --> 00:33:12,244 'Cause you're right. If I turn around and tell him he's being creepy, 710 00:33:12,327 --> 00:33:13,536 they would've jumped all over you. 711 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:16,957 -Like, "Yes, Donald, it is all mine." -[laughs] 712 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,709 "I know you're back here, trying to see what's happening with my hair. But…" 713 00:33:19,793 --> 00:33:21,211 "But, unlike your hair--" 714 00:33:21,294 --> 00:33:22,921 "…unlike yours, Donald, this is all mine." 715 00:33:23,004 --> 00:33:24,965 Oh, to turn the clock back. That would have been good. 716 00:33:25,048 --> 00:33:26,049 [chuckles] 717 00:33:32,222 --> 00:33:35,350 White women love me 'cause they think I'm their spirit animal and also Lizzo. 718 00:33:35,433 --> 00:33:37,769 [audience laughing] 719 00:33:37,852 --> 00:33:40,480 My daughter's a freshman at Stanford University. 720 00:33:40,564 --> 00:33:42,357 [audience cheers] 721 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,569 So I told my mother not to flex, and she said to me, 722 00:33:45,652 --> 00:33:48,572 "How good can the college be if it's taking so many girls?" 723 00:33:48,655 --> 00:33:50,699 [audience laughing] 724 00:33:50,782 --> 00:33:54,077 If I catch my son watching porn, how I will handle it is 725 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,621 I will sit down and watch it with him. 726 00:33:56,705 --> 00:33:59,207 -[audience laughing] -[Chelsea] Not a bad idea. 727 00:33:59,291 --> 00:34:03,086 What better way to deter him from ever watching porn again… 728 00:34:03,169 --> 00:34:04,880 [audience laughing] 729 00:34:04,963 --> 00:34:07,299 …than the memory of me commenting on it? 730 00:34:09,843 --> 00:34:11,344 My mother likes Lifetime. 731 00:34:11,428 --> 00:34:14,556 [audience laughing] 732 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,559 How many women watch Lifetime, by round of applau-- Okay. 733 00:34:17,642 --> 00:34:18,643 [audience cheers] 734 00:34:18,727 --> 00:34:19,853 I just want you to know, 735 00:34:19,936 --> 00:34:22,646 y'all are the reason why women can't move forward, okay? 736 00:34:22,731 --> 00:34:25,567 [audience laughing] 737 00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:29,028 [Saunders] A joke that I thought was very important to do here, 738 00:34:29,112 --> 00:34:31,530 it started from my mother and I watching television together, 739 00:34:31,615 --> 00:34:34,617 and my mother loves The Bachelor and Lifetime. 740 00:34:34,701 --> 00:34:38,204 I just feel like I'm adopted 'cause we just don't like the same things. 741 00:34:38,288 --> 00:34:42,959 And my mother is so absorbed in it as a real woman. 742 00:34:43,043 --> 00:34:45,003 I look at my mother. My mother is a real woman. 743 00:34:45,086 --> 00:34:48,215 I'm watching every part of this, like-- This is why women are failing. 744 00:34:48,298 --> 00:34:50,090 This is why women are failing. This is wrong. 745 00:34:50,175 --> 00:34:54,346 So, I really talk to women. Like, yeah, what he said is wrong, 746 00:34:54,429 --> 00:34:56,181 but also what are we doing? 747 00:34:56,264 --> 00:34:58,892 What do we hold important? 748 00:34:58,975 --> 00:35:02,020 Why do we need to be validated in these ways? 749 00:35:02,103 --> 00:35:03,688 "Oh, a network for women." 750 00:35:03,772 --> 00:35:08,485 Right, it sounds good in the air, right? 751 00:35:08,568 --> 00:35:11,404 I thought it was gonna be a lot of women empowerment movies on there. 752 00:35:11,488 --> 00:35:15,033 You know what I'm saying? Like women free-bleeding on the grass. 753 00:35:15,116 --> 00:35:16,117 [audience laughing] 754 00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,328 You know, chopping niggas' dicks off and shit. 755 00:35:18,411 --> 00:35:21,081 Like, I thought it was gonna be women that-- [screams] You know? 756 00:35:21,164 --> 00:35:23,333 -[audience laughing] -I didn't know it was gonna be 757 00:35:23,416 --> 00:35:26,586 the same goofy bitch over and over again, acting confused. 758 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:28,797 [audience laughing] 759 00:35:30,382 --> 00:35:33,093 Ah. Please be careful, anyone in the way of this ball. 760 00:35:33,176 --> 00:35:38,139 Okay, okay, okay. One, two, three, four, five, six! 761 00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:39,224 Oh! 762 00:35:40,809 --> 00:35:42,269 [Sykes] Wait a minute. Did you really do this? 763 00:35:42,352 --> 00:35:44,271 -I did. Honest to goodness. -She did. Very impressive. 764 00:35:44,354 --> 00:35:46,231 You sure Secret Service didn't shoot 'em down? 765 00:35:46,314 --> 00:35:48,316 -No, she was great. All her. -[laughing] 766 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,111 -But I did wait till your back was turned. -Good job. 767 00:35:53,071 --> 00:35:55,156 I think it's harder to do comedy now. 768 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,742 All of the things that you can't tell jokes about 769 00:35:57,826 --> 00:36:00,370 or you shouldn't joke about, or you get in trouble if you joke about. 770 00:36:00,453 --> 00:36:03,707 As someone who, you know, was the brunt of a lot of jokes as a child, 771 00:36:03,790 --> 00:36:05,625 -I'm thrilled there are things… -No, I'm all f-- 772 00:36:05,709 --> 00:36:06,918 …that are off limits. 773 00:36:07,002 --> 00:36:08,211 Call me politically correct. 774 00:36:08,295 --> 00:36:09,296 This is my take. 775 00:36:09,379 --> 00:36:11,673 I know what's right for me and what I'll do, 776 00:36:11,756 --> 00:36:15,802 and what makes me feel good, and what's off limits for me. 777 00:36:15,886 --> 00:36:20,098 But I am not gonna tell another comic, "Hey, you can't do this or can't do that." 778 00:36:20,181 --> 00:36:22,475 But for me, I do have a line. 779 00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:25,562 -But your line has shifted, hasn't it? -Oh, yeah. It's-- Yeah. 780 00:36:25,645 --> 00:36:27,439 -I used to be out there a bit. Now… -Mm-hmm. 781 00:36:27,522 --> 00:36:30,817 I forgot the-- Which comic, but they'd said something about, 782 00:36:30,901 --> 00:36:32,110 "Hey, if my kid was gay, 783 00:36:32,193 --> 00:36:35,113 I would bash him in the head with a dollhouse" or something. 784 00:36:35,196 --> 00:36:38,992 And I took offense to that because I've worked with LGBTQ kids 785 00:36:39,075 --> 00:36:40,076 who have been abused, 786 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,203 who have been kicked out of their house for being gay. 787 00:36:42,287 --> 00:36:46,082 And I'm like, "Hey, man. That's not-- That's not cool," you know? 788 00:36:46,166 --> 00:36:47,167 "It's not even funny. 789 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,253 You're giving permission to so many people who would do that." 790 00:36:50,337 --> 00:36:53,006 And I said, "So let's just think about that," you know? 791 00:36:53,089 --> 00:36:55,425 I grew up watching Dice and Eddie Murphy, 792 00:36:55,508 --> 00:37:00,096 so my early comedy was all, like, slurs, misogyny, fat jokes, whore jokes. 793 00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:01,348 Like, that's what I did, 794 00:37:01,431 --> 00:37:06,228 and it wasn't me trying to be a man. It was me trying to be a comic. 795 00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:08,230 -Mmm, interesting. -Like, that's what I watched. 796 00:37:08,313 --> 00:37:11,191 Then one day, this chick came up to me and she said, 797 00:37:11,274 --> 00:37:15,278 "You know, I came to laugh today, and your pedophilia joke was so dark, 798 00:37:15,362 --> 00:37:17,864 it invoked the worst moment of my life." 799 00:37:17,948 --> 00:37:20,617 And I changed everything I did because of that. 800 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,871 The comedians that I look up to and love, like the George Carlins and all, 801 00:37:24,955 --> 00:37:27,040 you're supposed to attack up, you know? 802 00:37:27,123 --> 00:37:30,001 -That's a really good point. -That's the thing. [stutters] 803 00:37:30,085 --> 00:37:31,419 Speak truth to power. 804 00:37:31,503 --> 00:37:33,755 -Why am I gonna pick on someone-- -Some with problems. 805 00:37:33,838 --> 00:37:35,549 Some poor person who's just struggling? 806 00:37:35,632 --> 00:37:38,134 It's not-- That's not what comedy is supposed to do. 807 00:37:38,218 --> 00:37:39,761 -You're supposed to uplift. -Yeah. 808 00:37:39,844 --> 00:37:41,972 Give people who don't have a voice-- 809 00:37:42,055 --> 00:37:43,223 -Give them the voice. -Yeah. 810 00:37:43,306 --> 00:37:45,642 -And point out hypocrisy. -Hmm. 811 00:37:45,725 --> 00:37:47,852 That's-- To me, that's the comedy that I love. 812 00:37:47,936 --> 00:37:49,563 -You gotta puncture it. -That's what I do. Yeah. 813 00:37:49,646 --> 00:37:51,940 -When I throw rocks, I'm throwing them up. -Yeah. 814 00:37:53,984 --> 00:37:55,610 [no audible dialogue] 815 00:37:58,613 --> 00:38:01,741 [Chelsea] So often, unfortunately, what people laugh at 816 00:38:01,825 --> 00:38:05,036 is when the comedian is making fun of someone else. 817 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,121 [Hillary] Right. 818 00:38:07,455 --> 00:38:10,792 [Chelsea] I think clowning, at least as I now understand it, 819 00:38:10,875 --> 00:38:14,254 at its funniest, is when clowns are the ones being vulnerable 820 00:38:14,337 --> 00:38:15,881 -and making fun of themselves. -Mm-hmm. 821 00:38:15,964 --> 00:38:19,134 -Inviting you in to laugh with them… -Right. 822 00:38:19,217 --> 00:38:22,220 …instead of provoking laughter towards someone else. 823 00:38:22,846 --> 00:38:25,223 Probably this would be helpful to almost anyone. 824 00:38:31,438 --> 00:38:33,231 [Hillary] Okay, I gotta-- Okay. 825 00:38:33,315 --> 00:38:36,568 I gotta tell you, this is some of the worst bowling I've ever experienced. 826 00:38:36,651 --> 00:38:38,153 [laughs] It's above par for me. 827 00:38:38,737 --> 00:38:42,365 Okay, come on. We're losing all of middle America and Chicago right now. 828 00:38:42,449 --> 00:38:44,159 -Come on. -Yeah, well, yeah, that does happen. 829 00:38:44,242 --> 00:38:47,287 -Okay. Here we go. All right, you two. -Come on. [laughs] 830 00:38:47,370 --> 00:38:52,334 [both laughing] 831 00:38:58,048 --> 00:39:01,092 Explaining jokes is like dissecting a frog. 832 00:39:01,593 --> 00:39:04,971 You may learn something from it, but the frog dies in the process. 833 00:39:05,055 --> 00:39:06,056 [audience laughs] 834 00:39:06,139 --> 00:39:08,934 I just was on the train coming up from Washington. 835 00:39:09,017 --> 00:39:10,810 -[Stephen Colbert] Okay. -And the conductor asked me 836 00:39:10,894 --> 00:39:12,062 if I wanted a wheelchair, 837 00:39:12,145 --> 00:39:15,690 and I said, "No, I'm going on Colbert to kick ass." 838 00:39:15,774 --> 00:39:19,945 [audience laughing, cheering]