-So quiet. -I know.
I have gone walking in the woods-- At times, it was a refuge.
It was a sanctuary. It was to get out of my head.
Get out of, you know, my life.
And obviously I did that after the 2016 election.
When-- I think the day after the election,
I ran into a young woman with her baby on her back, and her dog.
And she saw me and started crying.
So I was talking with her, and then she took a selfie and posted it.
And all of a sudden the walking in the woods…
-you know, meme took over. -You had people crying in the woods.
Yeah, but I-- It was a pretty good environment for somebody to be crying.
You know, I came across this concept in Japanese called forest bathing.
Yes, I remember you told me about this.
-Yes. -Literally just--
I think it felt very validating.
You were like, "I'm forest bathing."
Yeah. I have these visions of people, like, getting out into the woods
and looking up at these trees
and literally, like, just twirling around.
-I mean, visions. -Yeah!
You have the action, it's not even a vision.
It's, like, what you're doing.
Just beauty all around you.
I mean, just absolutely-- Just take it all in!
I'm not just walking in the woods. I'm forest bathing.
We rise!
Got to get this fighting spirt.
Spending time in nature can be transformative.
Growing up, Giselle Carrillo was so focused on working hard for her family,
it took years for her to realize something was missing.
But when she found the ocean, she found her purpose.
It's a moment of flow where time just suspends itself.
Nothing really matters.
Like, this moment of connection, of oneness with this force of nature.
When I was a little girl like you guys,
I actually did not know anybody that surfed.
I learned to surf when I was older,
and what the ocean taught me was to tap into this.
My courage.
And I hope that today, if this is your first time surfing,
you realize how strong this heart of yours is.
Full of courage.
Sound good?
This is a little corner of Los Angeles beaches.
This is, like, a great discovery.
And if you guys wanna help yourselves to some bread--
Great.
Yeah. So my parents are immigrants from Mexico.
They're my inspiration for pretty much everything I do.
They sacrificed so much to get us to this country.
And my parents did such a great job--
Mom.
My parents did such a great job of masking that for us in a way.
Like, I didn't know how poor I was until I got to college.
And I never focused on, like, Giselle and what makes her happy.
It's because I was so focused on survival.
I knew that a potential path out of living paycheck to paycheck
was to do well in school.
And me and my two sisters-- All three of us went to college.
The first girls in our family to go to college.
-Good going, Mom. Good going. -Yeah.
Never just throw a tortilla in there.
Place it down gently.
Or else it might flare up and get burned.
I grew up in East Los Angeles,
and my mom worked in a food factory her whole life.
And my dad's a mechanic.
And Sundays were dedicated to working.
We never really took a Sunday to do something leisurely
like sit at a beach all day.
I think it took us years before we had an umbrella and chairs.
And even when we did have them,
they were the ones that you got at the tiendita next door
that were five dollars.
So even showing up, it's like yeah, we're here
but we don't feel like everybody else.
Then you can add beans and add corn to your liking.
As a little girl, for me, it took me years to even own a bathing suit.
I think I can count two times when my parents took me to the beach.
And in one of those trips,
my sister had a small incident where a wave tossed her around.
And my mom doesn't know how to swim.
And so it was one of the scariest things for her.
I sort of remember my mom saying,
"Be careful with the ocean. She's a traicionera."
Which in Spanish means be careful with the ocean, she will betray you.
And that message really stuck with me.
You know, if I go into the ocean, that is a dangerous place.
How did you make the decision to go learn how to surf?
My sister and I, we moved to Venice Beach.
We got this one-bedroom apartment we were sharing.
And so, we went out to Venice Beach.
We're out there with an instructor for two hours.
Cold, slightly miserable.
-But still excited. -Determined.
Determined. So much determination.
I caught zero waves that day.
And it actually took me six months to catch my first wave.
And were you nervous when she started to surf?
Very much.
Yeah.
But I believe in them.
It was such a visible, tangible fear
that I had not been willing to conquer.
The ocean has a personality, and that's how she teaches us.
Because every day, she'll teach you something different.
She'll show you a different side of her, and it's how you react to her.
I would say that's how I found my courage again.
By just diving into the thing that I feared the most.
A lot of people can't do it, but slowly we grow a little bit stronger.
So if-- Look at you. You're already growing stronger.
I feel it!
Okay, so I'm gonna help you walk out.
Ready?
I used to be a teacher, and that was an amazing five years
of molding little minds.
I remember thinking, wouldn't it be beautiful for my students
if they could one day just come and feel this?
Feel what I feel.
Feel the power of the ocean and how it's changed me.
And that was the beginning of Los Courage Camps.
-What's your name? -Mia.
Mia. Nice to meet you, Mia.
-What's your name? -Lea.
Lea. Nice to meet you, Lea.
-And who's this little one? -Dahlia.
Oh, my gosh, Dahlia. Awesome. Dahlia, how old are you?
-Four. -You're four!
-Is this your first time surfing? -Yeah.
Then you and me, all right?
Do you think you're gonna be better than me?
-Yeah. -I think you're gonna be too.
Can I have one more high five? Awesome. All right, I'm ready.
Head up, looking at the beach.
And slide.
And stay low.
Show me low. Low like a pro. Perfect.
Today you're gonna learn to?
Be courageous.
My hope for Los Courage Camps and the little girls that come here…
Head up.
…is that they get an opportunity to see a really strong Latina.
You did it!
Good job, Mia. Good.
What you have lived is a path many others could learn from.
You know, just find that passion and follow it.
And be unafraid.
Head up.
It's my role to show the little girls that I teach through Los Courage Camps
that they have this incredible opportunity
to live a life that, like, gives them goose bumps.
Surfing, it shows you what your body can do.
And the connection to water, and how you can flow with this force of nature.
Thank you.
-Thank you. -Bye.
Dahlia, man, I need two.
Awesome!
Up you go.
Will we be recording?
There are lots of gutsy women whose relationship with nature
I find incredibly inspirational.
They're fighting for a better future for themselves,
their communities, the environment. Really for all of us.
Jane Goodall is one of my personal heroines
for all the work that she's done over a lifetime.
-Hi, Dr. Goodall. -Hello.
-Hi. -It's so lovely to meet you in person.
Good to meet you, yes.
How have you been?
Busier than in my entire life.
You can hear me? Jane, Mya-Rose?
-Yeah, we can hear you. -Yes.
Mya-Rose Craig could be called a Jane Goodall in the making.
But I think she is that and so much more.
I have been doing all of this since I was very young.
Through her love of birds and nature, and her determination,
she's become this fierce environmentalist.
My generation has always had to think about climate change.
As we've gotten older, there's been this massive wave
when we finally realized that I suppose the "grown-ups"
aren't gonna solve this,
so we have to do it ourselves.
We have tea and whiskey.
Just a sip. It's all that works for my voice.
You know that?
-I've tried-- -Not tried.
Well, I've asked four opera singers,
quite separately, "What do you do when your voice gets overtired?"
Whiskey.
-Interesting. -Seriously.
I need to try the whiskey hack.
Go ahead.
When I was a little girl, my grandmother would make me inhale hot whiskey,
but admittedly, with a heavy dose of honey too
when my throat is hurting.
Doesn't help. I just-- Like this.
Jane, maybe you could share
a little bit about why nature has always been so important to you.
Not only from the work that you've done, but also just to you as a person.
I was born loving animals.
When I grew up and as a child, there was no TV.
And so I learned from being outside.
Right here. We're in Bournemouth, where I grew up.
And going around on the cliffs above the sea,
With my dog, Rusty.
Just loving animals. There's no reason for my loving animals.
I was born that way.
And with no television, I read books.
I was eight years old when I read the first of the Doctor Dolittle books.
And then after that Tarzan.
Yeah, I had a flick through this before you came in,
and it's absolutely beautiful.
I can see how that would-- I don't know, inspire the imagination of someone.
Yep.
That made me dream I'm going to grow up, go to Africa, live with wild animals,
and write books about them.
Because girls weren't scientists in those days.
So, they laughed at me and said I should dream about something I could achieve.
But not my mother.
She said, "If you really want to do something like this,
you're going to have to work really hard,
take advantage of opportunity,
and if you don't give up, you may find a way."
And I can't tell you how many teenagers have written or said to me,
"Thank you. Because you did it, I can do it too."
A lot of the environmental activism and campaigning I've done in general
has just stemmed from all the subsequent work that you've done.
Are there lessons you think that we should be learning
from all the decades that you've spent observing chimpanzees,
as well as trying to help protect the animals in their habitats?
Well, I think-- You know, one of the things--
When I was sent to Cambridge by Louis Leakey, my mentor,
back in 1961,
I'd been with the chimps about a year.
Didn't know really that much about them back then.
But I was told you can't give chimpanzees names. You should have numbered them.
That's more scientific.
And you can't talk about their personalities, their minds,
or their emotions.
Those are unique to humans.
Well, I'd learned from my dog that that wasn't true.
That these professors, for all their learning--
And you know, it was very scary for me. I hadn't even been to college.
Now I'm landed doing a PhD in ethology,
I didn't even know what ethology was.
And so, gradually, because of my careful notes,
because of Hugo's film documentaries that started going around,
what we've learned, I think, is that the biggest difference
between us and our closest relatives,
with whom we share so much behavior,
it's the explosive development of our intellect.
But animals are way more intelligent than we ever used to think.
Mya-Rose.
You were, I think, a birder. Weren't you? Like, you grew up in nature?
My parents are both bird-watchers.
So I was literally-- I was nine days old the first time they took me bird-watching.
It's always been something that I've done and I've loved.
-Do you see its bill? -Yes.
-What color is that? -Bright orange.
They're really beautiful and they're really easy to see.
And they are everywhere, whether you are in a really rural area
or a really urban area.
You need patience and good eyesight.
And ridiculous optimism.
What's that?
Being very hopeful.
It's probably right.
I spotted it.
So I do quite a lot of work connecting kids and teenagers
with nature and the environment
by doing various different forms of bird-watching.
I think I'd be a very different person
if I'd never grown up with that love of birds,
and the outdoors and nature.
Nature can have such a profound impact on us.
And sometimes, a connection to nature can be a lifeline.
Having an awesome time. I'm feeling pretty strong.
Silvia Vasquez-Lavado found nature at a time
when she really needed it.
When she discovered a new path in life that would take her
to the tallest mountains on every continent.
This is my seventh summit.
Wow. Look at this, guys.
-This is spectacular. Wow. -That is so beautiful.
This is beautiful.
Wow.
I feel, right now, I'm fully committed into bringing this message out.
I'm a messenger of the mountain. And I am here to convert as many people.
-Do you have that on a T-shirt? -I should actually.
You totally should.
-I should. -I will buy some.
Yes. Messenger of the mountain.
-Messenger of the mountain. -T-shirt, please.
Okay, so what we're gonna do
is have a little training on learning how to rappel coming down a mountain.
Now, if you look at my rappel device, there are little teeth here.
This is what's gonna create friction on the rope as we try to go down.
-We turn this. -We turn the little lock.
And then you can test it by trying to put pressure.
So now, this is our lifeline.
-This is it. -This is it?
This is it.
-This is what's gonna prevent us-- -Okay.
This is gonna make us come down safely.
Okay. So now, first of all, take-- Open up your hand.
Grab the bot--
-the bottom part of the rope. -The bottom part.
The part of the rope, and then you close a fist.
And I pull down. If I wanna try to go down,
-this breaks. -Yeah.
-If I can be hanging from a cliff… -It's the tension, Mom.
…by just keeping this part, I'm safe.
Just try to let go and try to kind of--
-I see. Feel it now. -You can feel a little bit.
-Yeah. -Got it.
That's the crucial part, Mom.
To know, if you're falling, how to stop yourself.
That is, yes.
Right. As I tell my children, safety first.
Safety first. Your life depends on that particularly, so…
I love it.
What I admire about your personal journey
is how you have used nature to heal you.
Can you talk about that process for you?
I mean, unfortunately, just like one in three women around the world,
I'm a, you know, survivor of sexual abuse.
And the trauma of that incident
of that time period really stagnated me.
-And… -When you were a child?
When I was a child. This happened between the ages of six to ten.
And unfortunately, the way that I started coping
to try to shut down these memories was by drinking.
So, I literally was drinking myself to death.
And so, I hit rock bottom in my life. And I reached out to my mother for help.
And so she asked me to come down to Peru
to do a powerful healing meditation with her in nature.
And as we're doing this meditation, the first thing that came up
was me as a little girl during the time of the abuse.
Kind of on a little corner, shivering.
And then me as an adult, embracing this little girl
and feeling this connection that I had been ignoring.
And as we are connecting, I heard this rumble.
And somehow mountains appear,
and my little girl started pulling me to the mountains.
-Oh, my. -So that's what you saw and you felt?
That's what I saw and that's what I felt in this vision.
-That's amazing. -It was amazing.
And so, after that vision, I'm like, "Okay. I can take this two ways.
I can use it as a metaphor of walking the mountains of life with my little girl.
Or I can be very specific and go to a mountain."
-Wow. -And, I'm like, well--
This connected me to this massive pain in my life.
It's only appropriate for me to go to the tallest mountain in the world.
-So I went to the base of Everest. -You started at Everest.
You're like, "I see a mountain. I'm not gonna start at a small mountain.
I'm gonna go to the biggest mountain on Earth."
On the first day, we got to this small town called Namche Bazaar,
which is the entry of the Himalayas.
And that is the moment that my life changed forever.
For the first time in my life,
you know, you just see the side and these mountains
that are… like anything you've ever imagined.
And you are this tiny ant
walking among these gigantic gifts of nature.
When you saw those magnificent, massive mountains…
There was this sense of protection,
there was this sense of belonging that was just really powerful.
And that not a single human had made me feel.
And I remember feeling that, "I wanna go further."
And it's been beautiful to see how nature can make you feel that way.
It's been a beautiful day. It's been a powerful, beautiful day.
And I feel like I'm in heaven.
You knew there was something in you which was driving you to go there.
Yes.
-That little girl inside you… -Yes.
…was leading you, and all of a sudden you're there
and you have this, I would call it, transcendent experience.
I remember just feeling this reconnection to myself.
I had a strong message that said,
"Silvia, this is your journey. You gotta stay here."
And I just had gratitude for Everest.
And I said, "One day I'm going to come back and say thank you.
I'm gonna attempt to climb to the top."
So that is what was the seed of this whole journey.
You made a commitment to yourself and to the mountain.
To the mountain. And this is what is very trippy.
Because Mount Everest is the Western name,
but the local name in Tibetan is Chomolungma,
which means, "mother of the world."
That's so perfect.
And it's like here I am making a promise,
a heartfelt promise, to the mother of the world.
-Oh, my gosh, Silvia. -And so that is what--
That was the magic, what really got me to this journey.
-I think it's so wonderful. -Amazing.
-We're going to go down to the bottom. -All right.
I'm gonna set you up, and then I'm gonna go first.
Okay.
While I certainly have had moments of like, "Ah!" Like, "This is amazing."
I've never had a moment like what you had at Everest.
That sense of, like, wonder and meaning and purpose.
I don't know. I haven't had that moment yet.
-Kind of, you know, trying to lean back. -Yup.
Nice little water here.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, so now you're getting ready to come.
-I'm gonna give you a little bit of rope. -Yeah.
-All right. -You're set.
Wide stand. Wide-- Get your wide feet.
-There we go. Yup. Good. -All right.
-Lean back. -But--
I got you.
-Both hands down. -But I'm not doing a--
I'm not doing a very good job getting the rope.
-Is it getting stuck? -It keeps getting stuck.
This is so good. Here's the water pressure.
If you need to go, you need to go.
-Are we ready? -Yup.
You can do it.
I mean, you're not gonna let me die.
That's kind of, like, where I am right now.
-I'm not gonna die. -No. Baby steps.
Baby steps.
We got you here.
That's it. Perfect.
My overall missions is to bring as many people as I can…
and I think the minute you can experience the benefits,
the more aware it's gonna make you about the role that you play
with the environment.
-You did it. -Thank you so much.
You're a freaking trooper.
You need to come to base camp with me at one point.
-You definitely-- -It's a date. At some point.
-Hey. You did good. -All right. Thank you.
My daughter's gonna be, like, really impressed with me.
Every chimpanzee has his or her own special greeting sound.
We call it a pant-hoot.
It would be a distance greeting, so it's not for you.
It's for you. Because you are distant.
-Okay. -And it's…
So, for you, I would do the close-up greeting.
If you like each other, it usually ends up with an embrace.
So they'd be very worried if they had to, you know, bump elbows in COVID epidemics.
But you know the sad thing is, climate change, loss of biodiversity,
and the pandemic have all come about
because of our disrespect of nature and animals.
It's our fault. We've done it.
Yeah. I do find it difficult to picture sometimes.
Just the volume of damage that we've done to the planet
in such a short space of time.
It's easier for me 'cause I've seen it.
I do think there's just huge optimism in how many young people,
clearly including yourself, are engaged in trying to help protect nature.
Yeah. I'd always felt very alone
as a young person who cared about environmental issues.
And then suddenly,
there were just hundreds of thousands of kids my age going out into the streets,
going out protesting.
And I remember just thinking at the time that something had changed.
And this was going to change everything.
I think so many young people are told that their opinion doesn't matter.
But I think young people have been incredibly influential
in terms of the climate change conversation
and the climate change movement.
And raising awareness.
You know what? Maybe there is hope for the future
if we have so many people like this out there around the world
fighting as hard as they can to protect the planet.
-We rise! -We rise!
-For our mountains! -For our mountains!
Some of the loudest and most important voices
in this fight are members of Indigenous communities.
Those most deeply connected to nature are the ones most vulnerable
to the ravages of climate change.
You know, as an Indigenous person, for me, for my well-being,
it's really important for me to get out on the land and to reconnect.
Without this it wouldn't be possible for me to be here.
I am a part of this earth. I am one with nature.
Quannah Chasinghorse and her mother, Jody Potts,
have been fiercely protecting the Arctic Wildlife Refuge.
Quannah was using her platform
as a model to help bring people into her activism.
You know, both of them are real forces of nature.
-Definitely gutsy. -They're not only protecting nature,
but they are gutsy and out on the front lines.
This is a really good stew.
Thank you.
Wow, the flavor is unbelievable.
This is moose soup, and it's just a staple in all of our diets in Alaska.
So it's just moose meat, salt, onion,
carrots, celery and some rice. It's soul food for us, you know?
It really is.
-It's delicious. -Thank you.
Did you bring the moose meat with you?
-Yes. -I love it!
-All the way from Alaska? -All the way from Alaska.
-That's so cool. -Yes.
So, Quannah, you just moved to LA.
Moving from Alaska to here has been, like,
honestly kind of like culture shock. You know?
Sure. How could it not be?
I mean, have you found ways to still be in nature?
Have you already found places where you feel a little more connected to the land,
even if it looks and feels different than what you're accustomed to in Alaska?
You know, I'm not fully away from the city,
but it's enough for me to just breathe.
And to be able to find alignment
outside of my ancestral homes is really important.
I did wanna ask about the tattoos, because, you know,
everybody knows about tattoos now, but your tattoos have real significance.
For our people, the Gwich'in, women got chin tattoos
as a rite of passage.
And they take this time to learn about womanhood.
And they get their first chin tattoo.
-When you say first, is that one line? -One line. Yup.
Quannah, I think I read that your mother gave you your first tattoo.
Yeah, she-- My mom is a traditional tattoo artist for our tribe.
For me, it's an honor because the position I'm in,
not only am I one of the first Indigenous models at my level,
but I'm also the first Indigenous model to carry facial tattoos.
And I'm the first girl in my tribe to receive a traditional tattoo
in over a century at that age.
Where I'm from is completely misunderstood.
There's a lot of stereotypes,
a lot of people asking, "Do you still live in igloos?"
No, we do not live in igloos.
As you've been modeling, what kind of reactions have you gotten?
Because, you know, it's gotta be--
You're not only having this great career yourself,
but you are representative.
I think, you know, for me, it's-- Every space I'm in,
I always try to bring my people with me.
So anytime I get the chance to talk about my advocacy, you know,
why I model in the first place--
'Cause there are moments where I'm like,
"Is this even helping my people?" Like, "What am I doing?"
You know what I mean?
And then I think about all the native girls that feel seen.
And then I look at the messages that I get from all these native girls
and native women saying,
"My daughter, she feels beautiful because of you.
She sees a native woman on a magazine.
She feels that and she feels empowered."
With Quannah's level of visibility, now, like--
A big part of just her on these covers is a big statement of,
"We're still here."
You know? "We persevered and we're still here."
Jody, both you and Quannah have become so well known
for your activism around climate and protecting the land
and the water and the air. Can you talk about how that started?
How you became such a leader in that effort?
You know, I think…
I was just really blessed to have been raised so close to the land.
So while we're out, we're not just out. Like, we are observing things.
In my lifetime, and I would say especially in the last 12 years,
I've really seen this drastic change of the land.
And so, we,
as a native people, are really facing a crisis
because it's changing how we exist in these places.
Really that's how, for a lot of us, I think,
it happened is just, like,
we're noticing the impacts of climate change,
and we're speaking out about it.
I went to DC, and I lobbied on behalf of our sacred lands
and on behalf of my people, and it passed on the floor of House of Representatives.
I remember just feeling that victory of like, okay, this might go somewhere.
Like, we might actually be able to protect our lands.
And it just made me wanna go further and further.
I wanted to do more and more, and the more I did, the more I--
I found my beauty and my power through my voice.
For me, it was like-- It's so important for me to represent in the right way,
in the best way I can represent.
And that's to go into every space and be myself
and for them to accept me for me.
You talk so much about the younger people
that you're inspiring and that you hope will have an easier road to travel.
What does it mean though to you to give visibility to your elders?
Oh, man. It means the world.
Because every time I go into a native community
and I visit an elder, sometimes, like, it makes me wanna cry.
Because, like, they've been through so much.
Genocide, residential schools…
It makes me emotional.
And I'm still here.
Yeah.
And for me to, like, fully embrace myself of who I am
as an Indigenous person and they couldn't.
-That's so true. That's-- Yeah. -They couldn't.
They were scared to be themselves. And for me to, like,
fully embrace that at a world stage, on a magazine…
Yeah.
It means the world.
So nice to be up here.
When I'm in places like this,
especially new places and out on their land,
I always think of the ancestors and who the Indigenous peoples were here.
My life has not been easy.
It's been easier than my grandparents', but it still hasn't been perfect.
But the most grounding force in my life that I've tried to instill
in our children is our traditional values and our culture
and that connection to the land is what will always give you strength.
It's proof that we need nature for good psychological development.
And we need nature-- I mean, have you heard of forest bathing?
-Yes. -Yeah.
Doctors are prescribing it now.
Because it's good for our psychological mental and physical health
to spend time in nature.
And if you're in the middle of a city, then let's bring nature into the city.
I was actually in New York for 9/11, it so happened.
It was very scary.
The city went dead and quiet,
and all you heard was not the roar of the New York traffic
but police sirens and ambulance bells.
I've so many stories. But there was a young woman.
She saw a dumpster going by, and out of it was sticking bits of a tree.
And somehow she persuaded whoever to take the tree out of the dumpster.
And it went to a botanical garden, and it took a lot of work and lot of love,
but that tree began to grow.
Eventually it was moved back to where it is now.
You know, one of my reasons for hope is the resilience of nature.
On International Peace Day, when I was in New York,
we went to the Survivor Tree.
And I looked up, and up in the branches there was a beautiful little bird's nest.
And it was just-- It all came together.
This tree had survived, and now it was helping your birds
to bring forth new life.
Isn't that a lovely story?
Yeah.
More than a lovely story. I think a really important one.
For me, hope is not looking at the world through rose-tinted spectacles.
It's action.
So, I see it now as if we're in a very dark tunnel. We are.
And it's a very dark world if you look around.
And far end of this dark tunnel is a little gleam of light.
But we have to work really hard, roll up our sleeves.
Climb over, crawl under, work our way around all the obstacles between us
and that little light, then we get there.
So it's about having a vision,
having a determination, and not giving up.
So we've got to get this fighting spirit.
Yeah. If we do get people to take action and to involve themselves
and to do rather than think,
it does take away from that apathy,
-and it does give people hope as well. -Yeah.
Each single person living on the planet today matters.
Each person has some role to play
even if they don't yet know what it is.
And the main thing is,
every single person makes some impact on the planet every single day.
And once we become a little bit aware and educated, we can choose
what sort of difference we make.
Amen.
Thank you both so much.
There we are.
Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Jane.
-Thank you. -Thank you, Chelsea.
Thank you.
I have my coffee, cheers. My coffee.
You look so funny. Cheers.
I'm old enough to drink whiskey.
You know, one of the really great developments
of the last ten, 20 years
is how more women have moved into leadership positions
trying to fight climate change, trying to repair the environment,
trying to bring us back to nature.
And as Jane Goodall has said, you know, hope-- It's a survivor trait.
It's a strategy for getting things done.
We all have that indomitable spirit.
But people don't know it.
They don't let it grow. They don't let it fly.
They're afraid or they're nervous or they're battered down.
So we need to free the indomitable spirit
to make this a better world for all living things.