1 00:00:17,060 --> 00:00:19,938 -[Chelsea Clinton] So quiet. -[Hillary Clinton] I know. 2 00:00:24,484 --> 00:00:28,613 I have gone walking in the woods-- At times, it was a refuge. 3 00:00:28,697 --> 00:00:31,950 It was a sanctuary. It was to get out of my head. 4 00:00:32,033 --> 00:00:34,828 Get out of, you know, my life. 5 00:00:34,911 --> 00:00:38,081 And obviously I did that after the 2016 election. 6 00:00:38,164 --> 00:00:41,710 When-- I think the day after the election, 7 00:00:41,793 --> 00:00:47,674 I ran into a young woman with her baby on her back, and her dog. 8 00:00:48,341 --> 00:00:50,552 And she saw me and started crying. 9 00:00:50,635 --> 00:00:55,682 So I was talking with her, and then she took a selfie and posted it. 10 00:00:55,765 --> 00:00:58,768 And all of a sudden the walking in the woods… [chuckles] 11 00:00:58,852 --> 00:01:01,605 -…you know, meme took over. -You had people crying in the woods. 12 00:01:01,688 --> 00:01:05,190 Yeah, but I-- It was a pretty good environment for somebody to be crying. 13 00:01:06,735 --> 00:01:12,198 You know, I came across this concept in Japanese called forest bathing. 14 00:01:12,282 --> 00:01:14,784 -Yes, I remember you told me about this. -[laughing] 15 00:01:14,868 --> 00:01:15,869 -Yes. -Literally just-- 16 00:01:15,952 --> 00:01:17,621 -I think it felt very validating. -[laughs] 17 00:01:17,704 --> 00:01:19,748 You were like, "I'm forest bathing." 18 00:01:19,831 --> 00:01:23,501 Yeah. I have these visions of people, like, getting out into the woods 19 00:01:23,585 --> 00:01:25,587 and looking up at these trees 20 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:27,881 and literally, like, just twirling around. 21 00:01:27,964 --> 00:01:28,965 -I mean, visions. -Yeah! 22 00:01:29,049 --> 00:01:31,426 You have the action, it's not even a vision. 23 00:01:31,509 --> 00:01:33,053 It's, like, what you're doing. 24 00:01:33,136 --> 00:01:34,346 Just beauty all around you. 25 00:01:34,429 --> 00:01:38,308 I mean, just absolutely-- Just take it all in! 26 00:01:39,559 --> 00:01:42,687 I'm not just walking in the woods. I'm forest bathing. 27 00:01:46,274 --> 00:01:47,776 We rise! 28 00:01:48,693 --> 00:01:50,987 Got to get this fighting spirt. 29 00:02:12,217 --> 00:02:15,387 [Hillary] Spending time in nature can be transformative. 30 00:02:17,138 --> 00:02:22,435 Growing up, Giselle Carrillo was so focused on working hard for her family, 31 00:02:22,519 --> 00:02:26,314 it took years for her to realize something was missing. 32 00:02:27,983 --> 00:02:31,403 But when she found the ocean, she found her purpose. 33 00:02:33,947 --> 00:02:39,619 [Carrillo] It's a moment of flow where time just suspends itself. 34 00:02:39,703 --> 00:02:41,746 Nothing really matters. 35 00:02:42,414 --> 00:02:47,919 Like, this moment of connection, of oneness with this force of nature. 36 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:55,552 When I was a little girl like you guys, 37 00:02:55,635 --> 00:02:58,346 I actually did not know anybody that surfed. 38 00:02:58,430 --> 00:03:00,390 I learned to surf when I was older, 39 00:03:00,473 --> 00:03:03,268 and what the ocean taught me was to tap into this. 40 00:03:03,768 --> 00:03:05,020 My courage. 41 00:03:05,103 --> 00:03:08,732 And I hope that today, if this is your first time surfing, 42 00:03:08,815 --> 00:03:12,152 you realize how strong this heart of yours is. 43 00:03:12,235 --> 00:03:13,236 Full of courage. 44 00:03:13,737 --> 00:03:14,738 Sound good? 45 00:03:16,531 --> 00:03:19,451 [Carrillo] This is a little corner of Los Angeles beaches. 46 00:03:19,534 --> 00:03:21,286 [Hillary] This is, like, a great discovery. 47 00:03:21,369 --> 00:03:23,163 And if you guys wanna help yourselves to some bread-- 48 00:03:23,246 --> 00:03:24,623 -[speaks Spanish] -[Hillary] Oh, great. 49 00:03:24,706 --> 00:03:28,710 [Carrillo] Yeah. So my parents are immigrants from Mexico. 50 00:03:29,294 --> 00:03:32,464 They're my inspiration for pretty much everything I do. 51 00:03:33,048 --> 00:03:35,967 They sacrificed so much to get us to this country. 52 00:03:36,468 --> 00:03:39,179 And my parents did such a great job-- 53 00:03:39,262 --> 00:03:40,388 Aw, Mom. [chuckles] 54 00:03:41,431 --> 00:03:45,894 My parents did such a great job of, uh, masking that for us in a way. 55 00:03:46,394 --> 00:03:49,481 Like, I didn't know how poor I was until I got to college. 56 00:03:49,564 --> 00:03:53,109 And I never focused on, like, Giselle and what makes her happy. 57 00:03:53,193 --> 00:03:56,238 It's because I was so focused on survival. 58 00:03:56,321 --> 00:04:00,700 I knew that a potential path out of living paycheck to paycheck 59 00:04:00,784 --> 00:04:03,286 was to do well in school. 60 00:04:03,370 --> 00:04:06,790 And, um, me and my two sisters-- All three of us went to college. 61 00:04:06,873 --> 00:04:09,876 The first girls in our family to go to college. [chuckles] 62 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,461 -Good going, Mom. Good going. -[Carrillo] Yeah. 63 00:04:11,545 --> 00:04:12,671 [Carrillo, Hillary laughing] 64 00:04:12,754 --> 00:04:14,130 [oil sizzling] 65 00:04:14,214 --> 00:04:16,966 [Carrillo's mom, in Spanish] Never just throw a tortilla in there. 66 00:04:17,050 --> 00:04:20,303 Place it down gently. 67 00:04:20,387 --> 00:04:24,015 Or else it might flare up and get burned. 68 00:04:24,724 --> 00:04:26,768 [Carrillo, in English] I grew up in East Los Angeles, 69 00:04:26,851 --> 00:04:30,522 and my mom worked in a food factory her whole life. 70 00:04:30,605 --> 00:04:32,315 And my dad's a mechanic. 71 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,317 And Sundays were dedicated to working. 72 00:04:34,401 --> 00:04:38,655 We never really took a Sunday to do something leisurely 73 00:04:38,738 --> 00:04:40,532 like sit at a beach all day. 74 00:04:40,615 --> 00:04:44,119 I think it took us years before we had an umbrella and chairs. 75 00:04:44,202 --> 00:04:45,412 And even when we did have them, 76 00:04:45,495 --> 00:04:48,164 they were the ones that you got at the tiendita next door 77 00:04:48,248 --> 00:04:50,125 that were five dollars. [chuckles] 78 00:04:50,208 --> 00:04:52,711 So even showing up, it's like yeah, we're here 79 00:04:52,794 --> 00:04:55,088 but we don't feel like everybody else. 80 00:04:55,171 --> 00:04:59,092 [in Spanish] Then you can add beans and add corn to your liking. 81 00:04:59,175 --> 00:05:01,177 -Mmm. Mm-hmm. -Mmm. 82 00:05:01,261 --> 00:05:05,223 As a little girl, for me, it took me years to even own a bathing suit. 83 00:05:05,307 --> 00:05:08,268 I think I can count two times when my parents took me to the beach. 84 00:05:10,270 --> 00:05:11,688 And in one of those trips, 85 00:05:11,771 --> 00:05:16,318 my sister had a-- a small incident where a wave tossed her around. 86 00:05:16,401 --> 00:05:17,944 And my mom doesn't know how to swim. 87 00:05:18,028 --> 00:05:20,238 And so it was one of the scariest things for her. 88 00:05:20,322 --> 00:05:21,698 I sort of remember my mom saying, 89 00:05:21,781 --> 00:05:24,951 "Be careful with the ocean. She's a traicionera." 90 00:05:25,035 --> 00:05:29,831 Which in Spanish means be careful with the ocean, she will betray you. 91 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:35,128 And that message really stuck with me. 92 00:05:35,212 --> 00:05:39,216 You know, if I go into the ocean, that is a dangerous place. 93 00:05:43,428 --> 00:05:46,848 How did you make the decision to go learn how to surf? 94 00:05:46,932 --> 00:05:48,892 [Carrillo] My sister and I, we moved to Venice Beach. 95 00:05:48,975 --> 00:05:51,519 We got this one-bedroom apartment we were sharing. 96 00:05:51,603 --> 00:05:53,313 And so, we went out to Venice Beach. 97 00:05:53,396 --> 00:05:56,358 We're out there with an instructor for two hours. 98 00:05:56,441 --> 00:05:58,443 Cold, slightly miserable. 99 00:05:58,526 --> 00:06:00,070 -But still excited. -Determined. 100 00:06:00,153 --> 00:06:02,113 [Carrillo] Determined. So much determination. 101 00:06:02,197 --> 00:06:03,615 I caught zero waves that day. 102 00:06:03,698 --> 00:06:06,409 And it actually took me six months to catch my first wave. 103 00:06:06,493 --> 00:06:08,787 [Chelsea] And were you nervous when she started to surf? 104 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:10,872 [laughs] Very much. 105 00:06:10,956 --> 00:06:12,499 -[Carrillo laughs] -[Carrillo's mom] Yeah. 106 00:06:12,582 --> 00:06:14,834 [stammering] But I believe in them. 107 00:06:22,551 --> 00:06:26,179 [Carrillo] It was such a visible, tangible fear 108 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:29,599 that I had not been willing to conquer. 109 00:06:34,729 --> 00:06:38,108 The ocean has a personality, and that's how she teaches us. 110 00:06:38,191 --> 00:06:40,944 Because every day, she'll teach you something different. 111 00:06:41,027 --> 00:06:44,155 She'll show you a different side of her, and it's how you react to her. 112 00:06:45,115 --> 00:06:47,617 I would say that's how I found my courage again. 113 00:06:47,701 --> 00:06:50,870 By just diving into the thing that I feared the most. 114 00:06:55,959 --> 00:06:59,838 A lot of people can't do it, but slowly we grow a little bit stronger. 115 00:06:59,921 --> 00:07:02,048 So if-- Look at you. You're already growing stronger. 116 00:07:02,132 --> 00:07:03,133 I feel it! 117 00:07:03,216 --> 00:07:04,885 Okay, so I'm gonna help you walk out. 118 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:06,469 Ready? 119 00:07:07,220 --> 00:07:11,266 I used to be a teacher, and that was an amazing five years 120 00:07:11,349 --> 00:07:12,934 of molding little minds. 121 00:07:13,685 --> 00:07:17,647 I remember thinking, wouldn't it be beautiful for my students 122 00:07:17,731 --> 00:07:20,066 if they could one day just come and feel this? 123 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:21,151 Feel what I feel. 124 00:07:21,234 --> 00:07:24,154 Feel the power of the ocean and how it's changed me. 125 00:07:25,238 --> 00:07:27,741 And that was the beginning of Los Courage Camps. 126 00:07:28,658 --> 00:07:29,910 -What's your name? -Mia. 127 00:07:29,993 --> 00:07:31,286 Mia. Nice to meet you, Mia. 128 00:07:31,369 --> 00:07:32,746 -What's your name? -Lea. 129 00:07:32,829 --> 00:07:34,581 Lea. Nice to meet you, Lea. 130 00:07:34,664 --> 00:07:36,499 -And who's this little one? -Dahlia. 131 00:07:36,583 --> 00:07:39,419 Oh, my gosh, Dahlia. Awesome. Dahlia, how old are you? 132 00:07:39,502 --> 00:07:41,588 -Four. -You're four! 133 00:07:41,671 --> 00:07:43,423 -Is this your first time surfing? -Yeah. 134 00:07:43,506 --> 00:07:45,008 Then you and me, all right? 135 00:07:45,091 --> 00:07:46,551 Do you think you're gonna be better than me? 136 00:07:46,635 --> 00:07:48,386 -[Dahlia] Yeah. -[Chelsea] I think you're gonna be too. 137 00:07:48,470 --> 00:07:50,764 Can I have one more high five? Awesome. All right, I'm ready. 138 00:07:50,847 --> 00:07:53,350 [Carrillo] Head up, looking at the beach. 139 00:07:53,433 --> 00:07:55,685 And slide. 140 00:07:56,770 --> 00:07:58,480 And stay low. 141 00:07:58,563 --> 00:08:02,108 Show me low. Low like a pro. Perfect. 142 00:08:02,192 --> 00:08:04,444 Today you're gonna learn to? 143 00:08:04,527 --> 00:08:06,321 [all] Be courageous. 144 00:08:07,489 --> 00:08:10,992 [Carrillo] My hope for Los Courage Camps and the little girls that come here… 145 00:08:11,076 --> 00:08:12,244 Head up. 146 00:08:12,327 --> 00:08:16,289 …is that they get an opportunity to see a really strong Latina. 147 00:08:16,373 --> 00:08:18,333 You did it! Whoa. 148 00:08:19,918 --> 00:08:22,254 -Good job, Mia. Good. -[chuckles] 149 00:08:22,337 --> 00:08:27,050 [Hillary] What you have lived is a path many others could learn from. 150 00:08:27,133 --> 00:08:29,761 You know, just find that passion and follow it. 151 00:08:29,844 --> 00:08:31,805 And be unafraid. 152 00:08:31,888 --> 00:08:33,265 [Carrillo] Head up, head up. 153 00:08:34,307 --> 00:08:39,980 It's my role to show the little girls that I teach through Los Courage Camps 154 00:08:40,063 --> 00:08:43,525 that they have this incredible opportunity 155 00:08:43,608 --> 00:08:46,945 to live a life that, like, gives them goose bumps. 156 00:08:47,862 --> 00:08:50,407 Surfing, it shows you what your body can do. 157 00:08:50,490 --> 00:08:55,453 And the connection to water, and how you can flow with this force of nature. 158 00:08:55,537 --> 00:08:56,580 Thank you. Thank you. 159 00:08:56,663 --> 00:08:57,998 -Thank you. Thank you. -Bye. 160 00:08:58,081 --> 00:09:00,208 Dahlia, man, I need two. I need two. 161 00:09:00,292 --> 00:09:01,918 -Awesome! -[laughing] 162 00:09:02,002 --> 00:09:03,628 -Oh! -[laughing] 163 00:09:04,212 --> 00:09:05,297 -Up you go. -[laughs] 164 00:09:23,648 --> 00:09:25,400 [person] Will we be recording? 165 00:09:30,780 --> 00:09:34,200 [Hillary] There are lots of gutsy women whose relationship with nature 166 00:09:34,284 --> 00:09:36,244 I find incredibly inspirational. 167 00:09:37,746 --> 00:09:40,332 They're fighting for a better future for themselves, 168 00:09:40,415 --> 00:09:43,627 their communities, the environment. Really for all of us. 169 00:09:44,628 --> 00:09:47,797 Jane Goodall is one of my personal heroines 170 00:09:47,881 --> 00:09:50,508 for all the work that she's done over a lifetime. 171 00:09:50,592 --> 00:09:53,220 [cheering, applauding] 172 00:09:54,429 --> 00:09:56,514 -Hi, Dr. Goodall. -[Goodall] Hello. 173 00:09:56,598 --> 00:09:58,600 -Hi. -It's so lovely to meet you in person. 174 00:09:58,683 --> 00:10:00,060 Good to meet you, yes. 175 00:10:00,894 --> 00:10:02,479 [sighs] How have you been? 176 00:10:03,063 --> 00:10:05,023 Busier than in my entire life. 177 00:10:05,106 --> 00:10:07,692 You can hear me? Jane, Mya-Rose? 178 00:10:07,776 --> 00:10:09,736 -Yeah. Yeah, we can hear you. -Yes. 179 00:10:09,819 --> 00:10:12,906 [Chelsea] Mya-Rose Craig could be called a Jane Goodall in the making. 180 00:10:13,782 --> 00:10:17,327 But I think she is that and so much more. 181 00:10:17,410 --> 00:10:21,581 [Craig] I have been doing all of this since I was very, very young. 182 00:10:22,457 --> 00:10:25,460 [Chelsea] Through her love of birds and nature, and her determination, 183 00:10:25,544 --> 00:10:28,296 she's become this fierce environmentalist. 184 00:10:29,297 --> 00:10:32,759 [Craig] My generation has always had to think about climate change. 185 00:10:32,842 --> 00:10:35,929 As we've gotten older, there's been this massive wave 186 00:10:36,012 --> 00:10:38,932 when we finally realized that I suppose the "grown-ups" 187 00:10:39,015 --> 00:10:40,308 aren't gonna solve this, 188 00:10:40,392 --> 00:10:42,185 so we have to do it ourselves. 189 00:10:44,271 --> 00:10:46,022 [Goodall] We have tea and whiskey. 190 00:10:46,106 --> 00:10:47,649 [both laughing] 191 00:10:47,732 --> 00:10:50,944 Just a sip. It's all that works for my voice. 192 00:10:51,027 --> 00:10:52,946 -[Craig] Mmm. -You know that? 193 00:10:53,446 --> 00:10:54,614 -I've tried-- -Not tried. 194 00:10:54,698 --> 00:10:57,659 Well, I've asked, um, four opera singers, 195 00:10:57,742 --> 00:11:01,496 quite separately, "What do you do when your voice gets overtired?" 196 00:11:01,580 --> 00:11:03,164 -[Craig] Mmm. -Whiskey. 197 00:11:03,248 --> 00:11:04,624 -Interesting. -[Goodall] Seriously. 198 00:11:04,708 --> 00:11:06,668 -[laughs] -I need to try the whiskey hack. [laughs] 199 00:11:06,751 --> 00:11:07,878 Mmm. Go ahead. 200 00:11:08,670 --> 00:11:12,007 When I was a little girl, my grandmother would make me inhale hot whiskey, 201 00:11:12,090 --> 00:11:14,968 but admittedly, with a heavy dose of honey too 202 00:11:15,051 --> 00:11:16,303 when my throat is hurting. 203 00:11:16,386 --> 00:11:18,722 Doesn't help. I just-- Like this. 204 00:11:19,431 --> 00:11:21,266 [both chuckling] 205 00:11:21,349 --> 00:11:22,559 Jane, maybe you could share 206 00:11:22,642 --> 00:11:26,021 a little bit about why nature has always been so important to you. 207 00:11:26,104 --> 00:11:30,275 Not only from the work that you've done, but also just to you as a person. 208 00:11:30,984 --> 00:11:33,278 I was born loving animals. 209 00:11:33,361 --> 00:11:37,073 Uh, when I grew up and as a child, there was no TV. 210 00:11:37,824 --> 00:11:40,160 And so I learned from being outside. 211 00:11:40,660 --> 00:11:43,622 Uh, right here. We're-- We're in Bournemouth, where I grew up. 212 00:11:44,581 --> 00:11:47,584 And going around on the cliffs above the sea, 213 00:11:48,168 --> 00:11:50,170 uh, with my dog, Rusty. 214 00:11:51,046 --> 00:11:54,090 Just loving animals. There's no reason for my loving animals. 215 00:11:54,174 --> 00:11:55,383 I was born that way. 216 00:11:55,926 --> 00:11:58,637 And with no television, I read books. 217 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,891 I was eight years old when I read the first of the Doctor Dolittle books. 218 00:12:03,767 --> 00:12:07,437 And, um… [chuckles] And then after that Tarzan. 219 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,023 Yeah, I had a flick through this before you came in, 220 00:12:10,106 --> 00:12:11,483 and it's absolutely beautiful. 221 00:12:11,566 --> 00:12:15,737 I can see how that would-- I don't know, inspire the imagination of someone. 222 00:12:15,820 --> 00:12:16,821 Yep. 223 00:12:17,822 --> 00:12:22,285 That made me dream I'm going to grow up, go to Africa, live with wild animals, 224 00:12:22,369 --> 00:12:23,787 and write books about them. 225 00:12:23,870 --> 00:12:26,248 Because girls weren't scientists in those days. 226 00:12:26,748 --> 00:12:30,794 So, they laughed at me and said I should dream about something I could achieve. 227 00:12:30,877 --> 00:12:32,045 But not my mother. 228 00:12:32,128 --> 00:12:35,340 She said, "If you really want to do something like this, 229 00:12:35,423 --> 00:12:37,551 you're going to have to work really hard, 230 00:12:37,634 --> 00:12:39,427 take advantage of opportunity, 231 00:12:39,511 --> 00:12:42,347 and if you don't give up, you may find a way." 232 00:12:42,430 --> 00:12:47,686 And I can't tell you how many teenagers have written or said to me, 233 00:12:47,769 --> 00:12:51,856 "Thank you. Because you did it, I can do it too." 234 00:12:52,357 --> 00:12:55,944 A lot of the environmental activism and campaigning I've done in general 235 00:12:56,027 --> 00:12:59,781 has just stemmed from all the subsequent work that you've done. 236 00:13:00,574 --> 00:13:03,410 Are there lessons you think that we should be learning 237 00:13:03,493 --> 00:13:07,789 from all the decades that you've spent observing chimpanzees, 238 00:13:07,872 --> 00:13:11,543 as well as trying to help protect the animals in their habitats? 239 00:13:11,626 --> 00:13:13,628 Well, I think-- You know, one of the things-- 240 00:13:13,712 --> 00:13:17,591 When I was sent to Cambridge by Louis Leakey, my mentor, 241 00:13:18,174 --> 00:13:20,802 back in, uh, 1961, 242 00:13:21,428 --> 00:13:23,680 I'd been with the chimps about a year. 243 00:13:23,763 --> 00:13:26,892 Um, didn't know really that much about them back then. 244 00:13:26,975 --> 00:13:31,730 But I was told you can't give chimpanzees names. You should have numbered them. 245 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:33,690 Uh, that's more scientific. 246 00:13:33,773 --> 00:13:36,943 And you can't talk about their personalities, their minds, 247 00:13:37,027 --> 00:13:38,153 or their emotions. 248 00:13:38,236 --> 00:13:40,697 Those are unique to humans. 249 00:13:40,780 --> 00:13:45,035 Well, I'd learned from my dog that that wasn't true. 250 00:13:45,118 --> 00:13:47,245 That these professors, for all their learning-- 251 00:13:47,913 --> 00:13:51,249 And you know, it was very scary for me. I hadn't even been to college. 252 00:13:51,333 --> 00:13:54,252 Now I'm landed doing a PhD in ethology, 253 00:13:54,336 --> 00:13:56,713 I didn't even know what ethology was. 254 00:13:56,796 --> 00:14:00,759 And so, gradually, because of my careful notes, 255 00:14:00,842 --> 00:14:06,223 because of Hugo's film documentaries that started going around, 256 00:14:06,932 --> 00:14:11,394 what we've learned, I think, is that the biggest difference 257 00:14:11,478 --> 00:14:14,731 between us and our closest relatives, 258 00:14:14,814 --> 00:14:18,610 with whom we share so much behavior, 259 00:14:18,693 --> 00:14:21,238 it's the explosive development of our intellect. 260 00:14:22,113 --> 00:14:26,826 But animals are way more intelligent than we ever used to think. 261 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:28,161 -Hmm. -[Chelsea] Mya-Rose. 262 00:14:28,245 --> 00:14:31,915 You were, I think, a birder. Weren't you? Like, you grew up in nature? 263 00:14:31,998 --> 00:14:33,500 My parents are both bird-watchers. 264 00:14:33,583 --> 00:14:37,754 So I was literally-- I was nine days old the first time they took me bird-watching. 265 00:14:37,837 --> 00:14:41,633 It's always been something that I've done and I've loved. 266 00:14:41,716 --> 00:14:43,969 -[Craig's parent] Do you see its bill? -Yes. 267 00:14:44,469 --> 00:14:47,097 -What color is that? -Bright orange. 268 00:14:47,180 --> 00:14:49,891 [Craig] They're really beautiful and they're really easy to see. 269 00:14:49,975 --> 00:14:54,020 And they are everywhere, whether you are in a really rural area 270 00:14:54,104 --> 00:14:55,605 or a really urban area. 271 00:14:55,689 --> 00:15:00,318 -You need patience and good eyesight. -[Craig's parent laughs] 272 00:15:00,402 --> 00:15:02,404 And ridiculous optimism. 273 00:15:02,487 --> 00:15:04,489 -[laughing] -What's that? 274 00:15:04,573 --> 00:15:06,283 Being very hopeful. 275 00:15:06,366 --> 00:15:08,743 It's probably right. [laughs] 276 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:13,373 [young Craig] I spotted it. 277 00:15:14,124 --> 00:15:17,460 [Craig] So I do quite a lot of work connecting kids and teenagers 278 00:15:17,544 --> 00:15:18,962 with nature and the environment 279 00:15:19,045 --> 00:15:22,966 by doing various different forms of bird-watching. 280 00:15:23,967 --> 00:15:26,636 I think I'd be a very different person 281 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,140 if I'd never, um, grown up with that love of birds, 282 00:15:30,223 --> 00:15:32,559 and the outdoors and nature. 283 00:15:40,191 --> 00:15:43,486 [Chelsea] Nature can have such a profound impact on us. 284 00:15:44,321 --> 00:15:47,908 And sometimes, a connection to nature can be a lifeline. 285 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,246 Having an awesome time. I'm feeling pretty strong. 286 00:15:53,997 --> 00:15:56,917 [Chelsea] Silvia Vasquez-Lavado found nature at a time 287 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,627 when she really needed it. 288 00:15:59,211 --> 00:16:01,880 When she discovered a new path in life that would take her 289 00:16:01,963 --> 00:16:05,008 to the tallest mountains on every continent. 290 00:16:05,091 --> 00:16:06,843 This is my seventh summit. 291 00:16:09,346 --> 00:16:11,097 [Hillary] Wow. Look at this, guys. 292 00:16:11,806 --> 00:16:13,975 -[Chelsea] This is spectacular. Wow. -[Hillary] That is so beautiful. 293 00:16:14,059 --> 00:16:15,518 [Silvia] This is beautiful. 294 00:16:15,602 --> 00:16:16,895 [Chelsea, Hillary] Wow. 295 00:16:20,482 --> 00:16:24,486 I feel, right now, I'm fully committed into bringing this message out. 296 00:16:24,569 --> 00:16:28,865 I'm a messenger of the mountain. And I am here to convert as many people. 297 00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:31,284 -Do you have that on a T-shirt? -I should actually. 298 00:16:31,368 --> 00:16:32,369 You totally should. 299 00:16:32,452 --> 00:16:35,038 -I should. -[stammering] I will buy some. 300 00:16:35,121 --> 00:16:37,415 -Yes. Messenger of the mountain. -[laughs] 301 00:16:37,499 --> 00:16:39,334 -Messenger of the mountain. -T-shirt, please. 302 00:16:40,877 --> 00:16:43,713 [laughing, chattering indistinctly] 303 00:16:46,591 --> 00:16:48,134 Okay, so what we're gonna do 304 00:16:48,218 --> 00:16:52,305 is have a little training on learning how to rappel coming down a mountain. 305 00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:55,809 Now, if you look at my rappel device, there are little teeth here. 306 00:16:55,892 --> 00:16:59,646 This is what's gonna create friction on the rope as we try to go down. 307 00:16:59,729 --> 00:17:01,523 -We turn this. -We turn the little lock. 308 00:17:01,606 --> 00:17:03,984 And then you can test it by trying to put pressure. 309 00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:06,236 So now, this is our lifeline. 310 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:07,821 -This is it. -This is it? 311 00:17:07,904 --> 00:17:09,322 -This is it. This is it. -[laughing] 312 00:17:09,406 --> 00:17:11,533 -This is what's gonna prevent us-- -Okay. 313 00:17:11,616 --> 00:17:13,577 [Silvia] This is gonna make us come down safely. 314 00:17:13,660 --> 00:17:16,204 Um, okay. So now, first of all, take-- Open up your hand. 315 00:17:16,287 --> 00:17:17,831 Grab the bot-- 316 00:17:17,914 --> 00:17:19,541 -the bottom part of the rope. -Oh, the bottom part. 317 00:17:19,623 --> 00:17:21,626 The part of the rope, and then you close a fist. 318 00:17:21,709 --> 00:17:24,379 And I pull down. If I wanna try to go down, 319 00:17:24,462 --> 00:17:25,630 -this breaks. -Yeah. 320 00:17:25,714 --> 00:17:28,174 -If I can be hanging from a cliff… -[Chelsea] It's the tension, Mom. 321 00:17:28,257 --> 00:17:31,511 …by just keeping this part, I'm safe. 322 00:17:31,595 --> 00:17:34,055 Just try to let go and try to kind of-- 323 00:17:34,139 --> 00:17:36,474 -Oh, I see. Feel it now. -You can feel a little bit. 324 00:17:37,434 --> 00:17:38,935 -Yeah. Yeah. -[Hillary] Got it. 325 00:17:39,019 --> 00:17:40,896 -[Chelsea] That's the crucial part, Mom. -[laughs] 326 00:17:40,979 --> 00:17:42,772 To know, if you're falling, how to stop yourself. 327 00:17:42,856 --> 00:17:45,025 [Silvia] That is, yes. [stammers] 328 00:17:45,108 --> 00:17:47,569 Right. As I tell my children, safety first. 329 00:17:47,652 --> 00:17:50,655 Safety first. Your life depends on that particularly, so… 330 00:17:50,739 --> 00:17:52,157 [laughing] I love it. 331 00:17:53,408 --> 00:17:56,953 What I admire about your personal journey 332 00:17:57,037 --> 00:18:00,457 is how you have used nature to heal you. 333 00:18:00,540 --> 00:18:03,919 -Mmm. -Can you talk about that process for you? 334 00:18:04,002 --> 00:18:08,381 I mean, unfortunately, just like one in three women around the world, 335 00:18:08,465 --> 00:18:10,550 I'm a, you know, survivor of sexual abuse. 336 00:18:11,218 --> 00:18:15,305 And the trauma of that incident, um, 337 00:18:15,388 --> 00:18:18,892 of that time period really stagnated me. 338 00:18:18,975 --> 00:18:20,185 -And… -When you were a child? 339 00:18:20,268 --> 00:18:22,938 When I was a child. This happened between the ages of six to ten. 340 00:18:23,021 --> 00:18:25,232 And unfortunately, the way that I started coping 341 00:18:25,315 --> 00:18:27,567 to try to shut down these memories was by drinking. 342 00:18:27,651 --> 00:18:31,571 So, I literally was drinking myself to death. 343 00:18:31,655 --> 00:18:36,785 And so, I hit rock bottom in my life. And I reached out to my mother for help. 344 00:18:37,410 --> 00:18:39,496 And so she asked me to come down to Peru 345 00:18:39,579 --> 00:18:42,874 to do a powerful healing meditation with her in nature. 346 00:18:42,958 --> 00:18:44,334 [chanting] 347 00:18:44,417 --> 00:18:47,921 And as we're doing this meditation, the first thing that came up 348 00:18:48,004 --> 00:18:52,217 was me as a little girl during the time of the abuse. 349 00:18:52,300 --> 00:18:54,803 Kind of on a little corner, shivering. 350 00:18:54,886 --> 00:18:58,682 And then me as an adult, embracing this little girl 351 00:18:58,765 --> 00:19:02,102 and feeling this connection that I had been ignoring. 352 00:19:02,185 --> 00:19:05,855 And as we are connecting, I heard this rumble. 353 00:19:05,939 --> 00:19:07,941 And somehow mountains appear, 354 00:19:08,024 --> 00:19:10,694 and my little girl started pulling me to the mountains. 355 00:19:10,777 --> 00:19:12,946 -Oh, my. -So that's what you saw and you felt? 356 00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:15,448 That's what I saw and that's what I felt in this vision. 357 00:19:15,532 --> 00:19:17,075 -That's amazing. -It was amazing. 358 00:19:17,158 --> 00:19:21,288 And so, after that vision, I'm like, "Okay. I can take this two ways. 359 00:19:21,371 --> 00:19:25,375 I can use it as a metaphor of walking the mountains of life with my little girl. 360 00:19:25,458 --> 00:19:28,420 Or I can be very specific and go to a mountain." 361 00:19:28,503 --> 00:19:29,880 -Wow. -And, I'm like, well-- 362 00:19:29,963 --> 00:19:32,799 This connected me to this massive pain in my life. 363 00:19:32,883 --> 00:19:35,969 It's only appropriate for me to go to the tallest mountain in the world. 364 00:19:36,595 --> 00:19:39,472 -So I went to the base of Everest. -You started at Everest. 365 00:19:39,556 --> 00:19:43,393 You're like, "I see a mountain. I'm not gonna start at a small mountain. 366 00:19:43,476 --> 00:19:47,188 I'm gonna go to the biggest mountain on Earth." 367 00:19:47,272 --> 00:19:48,440 [all laughing] 368 00:19:49,858 --> 00:19:52,986 [Silvia] On the first day, we got to this small town called Namche Bazaar, 369 00:19:53,069 --> 00:19:54,946 which is the entry of the Himalayas. 370 00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:59,117 And that is the moment that my life changed forever. 371 00:19:59,701 --> 00:20:01,953 For the first time in my life, 372 00:20:02,037 --> 00:20:05,790 you know, you just see the side and these mountains 373 00:20:05,874 --> 00:20:09,336 that are… like anything you've ever imagined. 374 00:20:09,419 --> 00:20:13,465 And you are this tiny, tiny, tiny ant 375 00:20:13,548 --> 00:20:16,384 walking among these gigantic gifts of nature. 376 00:20:16,468 --> 00:20:19,763 When you saw those magnificent, massive mountains… 377 00:20:20,555 --> 00:20:22,265 [Silvia] There was this sense of protection, 378 00:20:22,349 --> 00:20:26,978 there was this sense of belonging that was just really powerful. 379 00:20:27,062 --> 00:20:29,940 And that not a single human had made me feel. 380 00:20:30,023 --> 00:20:35,403 And I remember feeling that, "I wanna go further." 381 00:20:35,487 --> 00:20:38,490 And it's been beautiful to see how nature can make you feel that way. 382 00:20:39,324 --> 00:20:42,327 It's been a beautiful day. It's been a powerful, beautiful day. 383 00:20:42,410 --> 00:20:44,120 And I feel like I'm in heaven. 384 00:20:44,704 --> 00:20:49,042 You knew there was something in you which was driving you to go there. 385 00:20:49,125 --> 00:20:50,126 Yes. 386 00:20:50,210 --> 00:20:51,920 -That little girl inside you… -Yes. Yes. 387 00:20:52,003 --> 00:20:54,381 …was leading you, and all of a sudden you're there 388 00:20:54,464 --> 00:20:57,509 and you have this, I would call it, transcendent experience. 389 00:20:57,592 --> 00:21:00,637 [Silvia] I remember just feeling this reconnection to myself. 390 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,931 I had a strong message that said, 391 00:21:03,014 --> 00:21:07,102 "Silvia, this is your journey. You gotta stay here." 392 00:21:07,185 --> 00:21:09,604 And I just had gratitude for Everest. 393 00:21:09,688 --> 00:21:12,857 And I said, "One day I'm going to come back and say thank you. 394 00:21:12,941 --> 00:21:14,859 I'm gonna attempt to climb to the top." 395 00:21:14,943 --> 00:21:17,279 So that is what was the seed of this whole journey. 396 00:21:17,362 --> 00:21:19,197 You made a commitment to yourself and to the mountain. 397 00:21:19,281 --> 00:21:21,283 To the mountain. And this is what is very trippy. 398 00:21:21,366 --> 00:21:24,035 Because Mount Everest is the Western name, 399 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,831 but the local name in Tibetan is Chomolungma, 400 00:21:27,914 --> 00:21:29,749 which means, "mother of the world." 401 00:21:29,833 --> 00:21:33,253 Ah. Ah! That's so perfect. [laughs] 402 00:21:33,336 --> 00:21:35,130 And it's like here I am making a promise, 403 00:21:35,213 --> 00:21:37,132 a heartfelt promise, to the mother of the world. 404 00:21:37,215 --> 00:21:38,842 -Oh, my gosh, Silvia. -And so that is what-- 405 00:21:38,925 --> 00:21:41,219 That was the magic, what really got me to this journey. 406 00:21:41,803 --> 00:21:43,597 -[Hillary] I think it's so wonderful. -Amazing. 407 00:21:47,934 --> 00:21:50,437 -We're going to go down to the bottom. -All right. 408 00:21:51,146 --> 00:21:53,440 I'm gonna set you up, and then I'm gonna go first. 409 00:21:53,523 --> 00:21:54,357 [Chelsea] Okay. 410 00:21:54,441 --> 00:21:57,903 While I certainly have had moments of like, "Ah!" Like, "This is amazing." 411 00:21:57,986 --> 00:22:00,906 I've never had a moment like what you had at Everest. 412 00:22:00,989 --> 00:22:04,326 That sense of, like, wonder and meaning and purpose. 413 00:22:05,452 --> 00:22:07,913 I don't know. I haven't had that moment yet. 414 00:22:10,457 --> 00:22:13,376 -Kind of, you know, trying to lean back. -Yup. 415 00:22:14,044 --> 00:22:15,378 Nice little water here. 416 00:22:16,004 --> 00:22:17,631 -Oh, my gosh. -Whoo. 417 00:22:20,342 --> 00:22:23,011 Okay, so now you're getting ready to come. 418 00:22:23,094 --> 00:22:25,222 -I'm gonna give you a little bit of rope. -Yeah. Yeah. 419 00:22:26,014 --> 00:22:27,599 -All right. -You're set. 420 00:22:28,433 --> 00:22:30,477 Wide stand. Wide-- Get your wide feet. 421 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,604 -There we go. Yup. Good. -All right. 422 00:22:33,605 --> 00:22:35,232 -Lean back. -Oh, but-- 423 00:22:35,315 --> 00:22:37,067 I got you. I got you. I got you. 424 00:22:38,235 --> 00:22:41,738 -Both hands down. -But I'm not doing a-- [laughs] 425 00:22:41,821 --> 00:22:44,282 I'm not doing a very good job getting the rope. 426 00:22:44,366 --> 00:22:46,409 -Is it getting stuck? -It keeps getting stuck. 427 00:22:48,453 --> 00:22:51,206 This is so good. Here's the water pressure. 428 00:22:52,666 --> 00:22:54,417 If you need to go, you need to go. 429 00:22:54,918 --> 00:22:56,795 -[Chelsea] Are we ready? -Yup. 430 00:22:56,878 --> 00:22:59,631 You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. 431 00:23:00,382 --> 00:23:01,967 I mean, you're not gonna let me die. 432 00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:04,052 That's kind of, like, where I am right now. 433 00:23:04,135 --> 00:23:06,555 -I'm not gonna die. -[Silvia] No. Baby steps. 434 00:23:08,807 --> 00:23:10,475 Baby steps. 435 00:23:11,601 --> 00:23:13,061 We got you here. 436 00:23:16,064 --> 00:23:17,649 That's it. Perfect. 437 00:23:17,732 --> 00:23:21,152 My overall missions is to bring as many people as I can… 438 00:23:21,236 --> 00:23:22,571 [shouting indistinctly] 439 00:23:22,654 --> 00:23:25,574 …and I think the minute you can experience the benefits, 440 00:23:25,657 --> 00:23:29,119 the more aware it's gonna make you about the role that you play 441 00:23:29,202 --> 00:23:30,203 with the environment. 442 00:23:30,287 --> 00:23:31,746 -You did it. -Thank you so much. 443 00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:33,582 You're a freaking trooper. 444 00:23:33,665 --> 00:23:36,042 You need to come to base camp with me at one point. 445 00:23:36,126 --> 00:23:37,669 -You definitely-- -It's a date. At some point. 446 00:23:37,752 --> 00:23:39,629 -Hey. You did good. -All right. Thank you. 447 00:23:39,713 --> 00:23:42,841 My daughter's gonna be, like, really impressed with me. 448 00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:54,769 Every chimpanzee has his or her own special greeting sound. 449 00:23:54,853 --> 00:23:55,896 We call it a pant-hoot. 450 00:23:55,979 --> 00:23:59,482 It would be a distance greeting, so it's not for you. 451 00:23:59,566 --> 00:24:01,693 It's for you. Because you are distant. 452 00:24:01,776 --> 00:24:03,278 -Okay. -And it's… 453 00:24:03,361 --> 00:24:08,408 [imitating chimpanzee, vocalizing lowly] 454 00:24:09,868 --> 00:24:13,663 So, for you, I would do the close-up greeting. 455 00:24:13,747 --> 00:24:15,790 [imitating chimpanzee, vocalizing rapidly] 456 00:24:15,874 --> 00:24:17,125 [laughs] 457 00:24:17,208 --> 00:24:20,337 If you like each other, it usually ends up with an embrace. 458 00:24:20,420 --> 00:24:26,134 So they'd be very worried if they had to, you know, bump elbows in COVID epidemics. 459 00:24:26,218 --> 00:24:27,177 [laughing] 460 00:24:27,260 --> 00:24:32,015 But you know the sad thing is, climate change, loss of biodiversity, 461 00:24:32,098 --> 00:24:34,517 and the pandemic have all come about 462 00:24:34,601 --> 00:24:38,563 because of our disrespect of nature and animals. 463 00:24:38,647 --> 00:24:40,565 It's our fault. We've done it. 464 00:24:40,649 --> 00:24:44,027 Yeah. I do find it difficult to picture sometimes. 465 00:24:44,110 --> 00:24:46,821 Just the volume of damage that we've done to the planet 466 00:24:46,905 --> 00:24:50,033 -in such a short space of time. -Mmm. Mmm. 467 00:24:50,116 --> 00:24:52,494 -It's easier for me 'cause I've seen it. -[Craig] Mmm. 468 00:24:52,577 --> 00:24:56,706 I do think there's just huge optimism in how many young people, 469 00:24:57,290 --> 00:25:01,670 clearly including yourself, are engaged in trying to help protect nature. 470 00:25:01,753 --> 00:25:04,422 Yeah. I'd always felt very alone 471 00:25:04,506 --> 00:25:07,717 as a young person who cared about environmental issues. 472 00:25:07,801 --> 00:25:09,010 And then suddenly, 473 00:25:09,678 --> 00:25:16,518 there were just hundreds of thousands of kids my age going out into the streets, 474 00:25:16,601 --> 00:25:18,103 going out protesting. 475 00:25:19,187 --> 00:25:22,983 And I remember just thinking at the time that something had changed. 476 00:25:23,066 --> 00:25:25,694 And this-- this was going to change everything. 477 00:25:26,653 --> 00:25:31,157 I think so many young people are told that their opinion doesn't matter. 478 00:25:31,241 --> 00:25:34,911 But I think young people have been incredibly influential 479 00:25:34,995 --> 00:25:38,081 in terms of the climate change conversation 480 00:25:38,164 --> 00:25:40,000 and the climate change movement. 481 00:25:40,083 --> 00:25:41,543 And raising awareness. 482 00:25:41,626 --> 00:25:43,712 You know what? Maybe there is hope for the future 483 00:25:43,795 --> 00:25:48,466 if we have so many people like this out there around the world 484 00:25:48,550 --> 00:25:50,927 fighting as hard as they can to protect the planet. 485 00:25:51,011 --> 00:25:53,471 -[protestor] We rise! -[all] We rise! 486 00:25:53,555 --> 00:25:56,349 -[protestor] For our mountains! -[all] For our mountains! 487 00:25:56,433 --> 00:25:58,977 [Chelsea] Some of the loudest and most important voices 488 00:25:59,060 --> 00:26:02,355 in this fight are members of Indigenous communities. 489 00:26:02,439 --> 00:26:03,732 [eagle calls] 490 00:26:03,815 --> 00:26:07,944 Those most deeply connected to nature are the ones most vulnerable 491 00:26:08,028 --> 00:26:10,238 to the ravages of climate change. 492 00:26:10,322 --> 00:26:13,199 [activist] You know, as an Indigenous person, for me, for my well-being, 493 00:26:13,283 --> 00:26:16,745 it's really important for me to get out on the land and to reconnect. 494 00:26:18,914 --> 00:26:22,542 Without this it wouldn't be possible for me to be here. 495 00:26:23,168 --> 00:26:26,630 I am a part of this earth. I am one with nature. 496 00:26:27,339 --> 00:26:30,759 [Hillary] Quannah Chasinghorse and her mother, Jody Potts, 497 00:26:30,842 --> 00:26:35,138 have been fiercely protecting the Arctic Wildlife Refuge. 498 00:26:35,222 --> 00:26:37,432 -[Chelsea] Quannah was using her platform… -[Hillary] Mm-hmm. 499 00:26:37,515 --> 00:26:41,353 …as a model to help bring people into her activism. 500 00:26:41,436 --> 00:26:44,689 [Hillary] You know, both of them are real forces of nature. 501 00:26:44,773 --> 00:26:46,942 -[Chelsea] Definitely gutsy. -They're not only protecting nature, 502 00:26:47,025 --> 00:26:50,195 but they are gutsy and out on the front lines. 503 00:26:54,616 --> 00:26:57,452 [crickets chirping] 504 00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:06,878 This is a really good stew. 505 00:27:06,962 --> 00:27:08,129 [Jody] Thank you. [laughs] 506 00:27:08,213 --> 00:27:11,132 Wow, the flavor is unbelievable. 507 00:27:11,216 --> 00:27:14,636 [Jody] This is moose soup, and it's just a staple 508 00:27:14,719 --> 00:27:17,430 in all of our diets in Alaska. 509 00:27:17,514 --> 00:27:22,102 So it's just, uh, moose meat, salt, um, onion, 510 00:27:22,727 --> 00:27:26,898 carrots, celery and some rice. It's soul food for us, you know? 511 00:27:26,982 --> 00:27:28,483 -[all laughing] -It really is. 512 00:27:28,567 --> 00:27:30,318 -It's delicious. -[Jody] Thank you. 513 00:27:30,402 --> 00:27:32,153 Did you bring the moose meat with you? 514 00:27:32,237 --> 00:27:33,530 -Yes. -[laughs] I love it! 515 00:27:33,613 --> 00:27:35,407 -All the way from Alaska? -All the way from Alaska. 516 00:27:35,490 --> 00:27:36,616 -[Hillary] That's so cool. -Yes. 517 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:38,952 [Chelsea] So, Quannah, you just moved to LA. 518 00:27:39,035 --> 00:27:41,538 Moving from Alaska to here has been, like, 519 00:27:41,621 --> 00:27:43,832 honestly kind of like culture shock. You know? 520 00:27:43,915 --> 00:27:46,167 -[all laughing] -[Hillary] Sure. How could it not be? 521 00:27:46,251 --> 00:27:48,670 I mean, have you found ways to still be in nature? 522 00:27:48,753 --> 00:27:51,882 Have you already found places where you feel a little more connected to the land, 523 00:27:51,965 --> 00:27:56,469 even if it looks and feels different than what you're accustomed to in Alaska? 524 00:27:56,553 --> 00:27:58,471 [Quannah] You know, I'm not fully away from the city, 525 00:27:58,555 --> 00:28:01,224 but it's enough for me to just breathe. 526 00:28:01,308 --> 00:28:03,727 And to be able to find alignment 527 00:28:03,810 --> 00:28:07,230 outside of my ancestral homes is really important. 528 00:28:07,314 --> 00:28:10,275 I did wanna ask about the tattoos, because, you know, 529 00:28:10,358 --> 00:28:14,654 everybody knows about tattoos now, but your tattoos have real significance. 530 00:28:14,738 --> 00:28:18,658 [Jody] For our people, the Gwich'in, women got chin tattoos 531 00:28:18,742 --> 00:28:20,118 as a rite of passage. 532 00:28:20,201 --> 00:28:24,789 And they take this time to learn about womanhood. 533 00:28:24,873 --> 00:28:26,917 And they get their first chin tattoo. 534 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,877 [Hillary] When you say first, is that one line? 535 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,086 One line. Yup. 536 00:28:30,170 --> 00:28:33,215 Quannah, I think I read that your mother gave you your first tattoo. 537 00:28:34,049 --> 00:28:38,970 Yeah, she-- My mom is a traditional, um, tattoo artist for our tribe. 538 00:28:39,054 --> 00:28:43,934 For me, it's an honor because the position I'm in, 539 00:28:44,017 --> 00:28:48,438 not only am I one of the first Indigenous models at my level, 540 00:28:48,521 --> 00:28:52,567 but I'm also the first Indigenous model to carry facial tattoos. 541 00:28:52,651 --> 00:28:56,738 And I'm the first girl in my tribe to receive a traditional tattoo 542 00:28:56,821 --> 00:28:58,949 in over a century at that age. 543 00:29:03,495 --> 00:29:05,538 Where I'm from is completely misunderstood. 544 00:29:05,622 --> 00:29:07,540 There's a lot of stereotypes, 545 00:29:07,624 --> 00:29:10,544 a lot of people asking, "Do you still live in igloos?" 546 00:29:11,211 --> 00:29:12,837 No, we do not live in igloos. [chuckles] 547 00:29:13,630 --> 00:29:17,259 As you've been modeling, what kind of reactions have you gotten? 548 00:29:17,342 --> 00:29:19,386 Because, you know, it's gotta be-- 549 00:29:19,469 --> 00:29:21,930 You're not only having this great career yourself, 550 00:29:22,013 --> 00:29:23,515 but you are representative. 551 00:29:24,099 --> 00:29:28,395 I think, you know, for me, it's-- Every space I'm in, um, 552 00:29:28,478 --> 00:29:30,981 I always try to bring my people with me. 553 00:29:31,064 --> 00:29:35,735 So anytime I get the chance to talk about my advocacy, you know, 554 00:29:35,819 --> 00:29:38,029 w-why I model in the first place-- 555 00:29:38,113 --> 00:29:39,823 'Cause there are moments where I'm like, 556 00:29:39,906 --> 00:29:42,742 "Is this even helping my people?" Like, "What am I doing?" 557 00:29:42,826 --> 00:29:44,077 You know what I mean? 558 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,831 And then I think about all the native girls that feel seen. 559 00:29:47,914 --> 00:29:50,917 And then I look at the messages that I get from all these native girls 560 00:29:51,001 --> 00:29:52,419 and native women saying, 561 00:29:52,502 --> 00:29:54,462 "My daughter, she feels beautiful because of you. 562 00:29:54,546 --> 00:29:56,214 She sees a native woman on a magazine. 563 00:29:56,298 --> 00:29:59,509 She-- She feels that and she feels empowered." 564 00:29:59,593 --> 00:30:03,680 With Quannah's level of visibility, um, now, like-- 565 00:30:03,763 --> 00:30:07,350 A big part of just her on these covers is a big statement of, 566 00:30:07,434 --> 00:30:08,602 "We're still here." 567 00:30:08,685 --> 00:30:11,438 You know? "We persevered and we're still here." 568 00:30:12,355 --> 00:30:15,859 Jody, both you and Quannah have become so well known 569 00:30:15,942 --> 00:30:19,404 for your activism around climate and protecting the land 570 00:30:19,487 --> 00:30:22,949 and the water and the air. Can you talk about how that started? 571 00:30:23,033 --> 00:30:26,328 How you became such a leader in that effort? 572 00:30:26,411 --> 00:30:28,038 You know, I think, um… 573 00:30:28,747 --> 00:30:32,375 I was just really blessed to have been raised so close to the land. 574 00:30:32,459 --> 00:30:36,171 So while we're out, we're not just out. Like, we are observing things. 575 00:30:37,714 --> 00:30:42,093 In my lifetime… [sighs] …and I would say especially in the last 12 years, 576 00:30:42,177 --> 00:30:45,055 I've really seen this drastic change of the land. 577 00:30:45,138 --> 00:30:47,015 And so, we… [sighs] 578 00:30:47,098 --> 00:30:50,018 …as a native people, are really facing a crisis 579 00:30:50,101 --> 00:30:53,855 because it's changing how we exist in these places. 580 00:30:54,648 --> 00:30:57,901 Really that's how, for a lot of us, I think, um, 581 00:30:57,984 --> 00:30:59,736 it happened is just, like, 582 00:30:59,819 --> 00:31:01,863 we're noticing the impacts of climate change, 583 00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:04,074 and we're speaking out about it. 584 00:31:04,157 --> 00:31:07,035 [Quannah] I went to DC, and I lobbied on behalf of our sacred lands 585 00:31:07,118 --> 00:31:11,081 and on behalf of my people, and it passed on the floor of House of Representatives. 586 00:31:11,164 --> 00:31:15,043 I remember just feeling that victory of like, okay, this might go somewhere. 587 00:31:15,126 --> 00:31:17,879 Like, we might actually be able to protect our lands. 588 00:31:17,963 --> 00:31:19,923 And it just made me wanna go further and further. 589 00:31:20,006 --> 00:31:23,218 I wanted to do more and more, and the more I did, the more I-- 590 00:31:23,301 --> 00:31:26,513 I found my beauty and my power through my voice. 591 00:31:26,596 --> 00:31:31,101 For me, it was like-- It's so important for me to represent in the right way, 592 00:31:31,184 --> 00:31:33,061 in the best way I can represent. 593 00:31:33,144 --> 00:31:36,064 And that's to go into every space and be myself 594 00:31:36,147 --> 00:31:38,066 and for them to accept me for me. 595 00:31:39,526 --> 00:31:42,279 You talk so much about the younger people 596 00:31:42,362 --> 00:31:46,157 that you're inspiring and that you hope will have an easier road to travel. 597 00:31:46,241 --> 00:31:49,369 What does it mean though to you to give visibility to your elders? 598 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,580 Oh, man. It means the world. 599 00:31:51,663 --> 00:31:53,707 Because every time I go into a native community 600 00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,335 and I visit an elder, sometimes, like, it makes me wanna cry. 601 00:31:57,836 --> 00:32:01,089 Because, like, they've been through so much. 602 00:32:02,007 --> 00:32:04,926 Genocide, um, residential schools… 603 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:07,470 [sobs] It makes me emotional. [laughs] 604 00:32:07,554 --> 00:32:10,140 Um… [sniffles] …and I'm still here. 605 00:32:10,223 --> 00:32:11,641 [Hillary] Yeah. Yeah. 606 00:32:11,725 --> 00:32:16,271 And for me to, like, fully embrace myself of who I am 607 00:32:16,354 --> 00:32:18,732 as an Indigenous person and-- and they couldn't. 608 00:32:19,399 --> 00:32:22,944 -[Hillary] That's so true. That's-- Yeah. -They couldn't. 609 00:32:23,028 --> 00:32:26,448 Um, they were scared to be themselves. And for me to, like, 610 00:32:26,531 --> 00:32:30,452 fully embrace that at a world stage, on a magazine… [sniffles] 611 00:32:31,536 --> 00:32:32,829 Yeah. 612 00:32:32,913 --> 00:32:33,914 It means the world. 613 00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:41,254 [Quannah] So nice to be up here. 614 00:32:45,091 --> 00:32:46,551 [Jody] When I'm in places like this, 615 00:32:46,635 --> 00:32:49,429 especially new places and out on their land, 616 00:32:49,512 --> 00:32:54,935 I always think of the ancestors and who the Indigenous peoples were here. 617 00:32:55,018 --> 00:32:56,353 My life has not been easy. 618 00:32:56,436 --> 00:33:00,190 It's been easier than my grandparents', but it still hasn't been perfect. 619 00:33:00,899 --> 00:33:04,110 But the most grounding force in my life that I've tried to instill 620 00:33:04,194 --> 00:33:07,280 in our children is our traditional values and our culture 621 00:33:07,364 --> 00:33:11,034 and that connection to the land is what will always give you strength. 622 00:33:24,005 --> 00:33:28,885 [Goodall] It's proof that we need nature for good psychological development. 623 00:33:28,969 --> 00:33:32,472 And we need nature-- I mean, have you heard of forest bathing? 624 00:33:32,556 --> 00:33:33,390 -Yes. -[Craig] Yeah. 625 00:33:33,473 --> 00:33:35,725 [Goodall] Doctors are prescribing it now. 626 00:33:35,809 --> 00:33:40,647 Because it's good for our psychological, uh, mental and physical health 627 00:33:40,730 --> 00:33:43,275 to spend time in nature. 628 00:33:43,358 --> 00:33:47,696 And if you're in the middle of a city, then let's bring nature into the city. 629 00:33:48,196 --> 00:33:51,366 -[people chattering] -[car horns honking] 630 00:33:54,953 --> 00:33:58,790 [Goodall] I was actually in New York for 9/11, it so happened. 631 00:34:02,711 --> 00:34:04,296 It-- It was very scary. 632 00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:07,299 The city went dead and quiet, 633 00:34:07,382 --> 00:34:10,760 and all you heard was not the roar of the New York traffic 634 00:34:10,844 --> 00:34:13,387 but police sirens and ambulance bells. 635 00:34:14,306 --> 00:34:18,602 I've so many stories. But there was a young woman. 636 00:34:18,684 --> 00:34:23,064 She saw a dumpster going by, and out of it was sticking bits of a tree. 637 00:34:23,899 --> 00:34:29,362 And somehow she persuaded, uh, whoever to take the tree out of the dumpster. 638 00:34:29,445 --> 00:34:35,535 And it went to a botanical garden, and it took a lot of work and lot of love, 639 00:34:35,619 --> 00:34:37,245 but that tree began to grow. 640 00:34:38,997 --> 00:34:42,166 Eventually it was moved back to where it is now. 641 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,465 You know, one of my reasons for hope is the resilience of nature. 642 00:34:49,298 --> 00:34:53,094 On International Peace Day, when I was in New York, 643 00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:55,597 we went to the Survivor Tree. 644 00:35:01,228 --> 00:35:07,400 And I looked up, and up in the branches there was a beautiful little bird's nest. 645 00:35:08,276 --> 00:35:11,404 And it was just-- It-- It all came together. 646 00:35:11,488 --> 00:35:16,243 This tree had survived, and now it was helping your birds 647 00:35:16,326 --> 00:35:18,662 to bring forth new life. 648 00:35:19,412 --> 00:35:20,997 Isn't that a lovely story? 649 00:35:21,081 --> 00:35:22,624 Mmm. Yeah. 650 00:35:22,707 --> 00:35:25,669 More than a lovely story. Uh, I think a really important one. 651 00:35:26,294 --> 00:35:31,216 For me, hope is not looking at the world through rose-tinted spectacles. 652 00:35:31,299 --> 00:35:32,717 It's action. 653 00:35:32,801 --> 00:35:36,346 So, I see it now as if we're in a very dark tunnel. We are. 654 00:35:36,429 --> 00:35:39,140 And it's a very dark world if you look around. 655 00:35:39,224 --> 00:35:43,270 And far end of this dark tunnel is a little gleam of light. 656 00:35:43,353 --> 00:35:46,773 But we have to work really hard, roll up our sleeves. 657 00:35:46,856 --> 00:35:51,194 Climb over, crawl under, work our way around all the obstacles between us 658 00:35:51,278 --> 00:35:53,613 and that little light, then we get there. 659 00:35:53,697 --> 00:35:56,283 -Mmm. -So it's about having a vision, 660 00:35:56,366 --> 00:35:59,786 having a determination, and not giving up. 661 00:36:00,287 --> 00:36:04,165 So we've got to-- we've got to get this fighting spirit. 662 00:36:04,249 --> 00:36:08,420 Yeah. If we do get people to take action and to involve themselves 663 00:36:08,503 --> 00:36:11,339 and to do rather than think, 664 00:36:11,923 --> 00:36:13,800 it does take away from that apathy, 665 00:36:13,884 --> 00:36:16,094 -and it does give people hope as well. -Yeah. Yeah. 666 00:36:16,803 --> 00:36:21,141 Each single person living on the planet today matters. 667 00:36:21,725 --> 00:36:24,019 -[Craig] Mmm. -Each person has some role to play 668 00:36:24,102 --> 00:36:26,521 even if they don't yet know what it is. 669 00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:28,940 And the main thing is, 670 00:36:29,024 --> 00:36:35,030 every single person makes some impact on the planet every single day. 671 00:36:35,113 --> 00:36:36,031 [Craig] Mmm. 672 00:36:36,114 --> 00:36:40,994 And once we become a little bit aware and educated, we can choose 673 00:36:41,077 --> 00:36:43,163 what sort of difference we make. 674 00:36:43,955 --> 00:36:45,081 [stutters] Amen. 675 00:36:45,165 --> 00:36:48,126 -[laughs] -[Chelsea] Um, thank you both so much. 676 00:36:48,627 --> 00:36:49,753 [Goodall] There we are. 677 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:53,256 [Chelsea] Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Jane. 678 00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:54,716 -Thank you. -[Goodall] Thank you, Chelsea. 679 00:36:54,799 --> 00:36:55,717 [Craig] Thank you. 680 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,803 -I have my coffee, cheers. My coffee. -[Jane laughs] 681 00:36:58,887 --> 00:37:00,889 You look so funny. Cheers. 682 00:37:02,432 --> 00:37:06,228 I'm old enough to drink whiskey. [laughs] 683 00:37:07,395 --> 00:37:09,814 [Hillary] You know, one of the really great developments 684 00:37:09,898 --> 00:37:12,067 of the last ten, 20 years 685 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:15,528 is how more women have moved into leadership positions 686 00:37:15,612 --> 00:37:18,531 trying to fight climate change, trying to repair the environment, 687 00:37:18,615 --> 00:37:20,450 trying to bring us back to nature. 688 00:37:20,533 --> 00:37:25,288 And as Jane Goodall has said, you know, hope-- It's a survivor trait. 689 00:37:25,372 --> 00:37:29,000 It's a-- It's a strategy for getting things done. 690 00:37:30,126 --> 00:37:32,629 [Goodall] We all have that indomitable spirit. 691 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:35,715 But people don't know it. 692 00:37:35,799 --> 00:37:38,760 They don't let it grow. They don't let it fly. 693 00:37:38,843 --> 00:37:42,138 They're afraid or they're nervous or they're battered down. 694 00:37:42,222 --> 00:37:45,267 So we need to free the indomitable spirit 695 00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:49,229 to make this a better world for all living things.