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PAUL McCARTNEY: You know,
I meet a lot of young groups and I say,
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"I can't read music or write it."
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They go, "What?"
(Rick chuckles)
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And it's like...
"Well, that doesn't work.
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Well, if you've done this,
how could you do it without‐‐"
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But it means that it's here.
It's not on a bit of paper.
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♪♪ playing upbeat music ♪♪
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I tell kids who want to learn the piano,
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I say, "Okay, here's you go.
Start with middle C."
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(plays note)
We all know that.
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It's the first thing in a piano lesson.
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And then think about like
the Eddie Cochran thing.
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I say, "Well, that's... that's a chord,
if you play those together."
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"And you just got that,
remember this and that.
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So you do that. One space.
Finger. One space. Finger."
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So there you've got the chord.
I say, you know, "We started there."
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RICK RUBIN: Mm‐hmm.
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And so, you could kind of write
a song... with that.
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Yeah. Yeah.
But if you just move this up one,
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...it's the same shape.
Yeah.
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You've got another chord.
Yeah.
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Now you've got two chords.
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Move it up again,
you got three chords.
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RICK: Yeah.
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PAUL: And move it up again,
you got four chords.
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RICK: Yeah. Yeah.
PAUL: And then again, you got five.
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And then now you've got six.
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Well, you don't need more than that.
Yeah.
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So you can now
put permutations of that...
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Yeah.
and you get songs, you know, like‐‐
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♪♪ light piano music playing ♪♪
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RICK: Yeah.
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♪♪ music continues ♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪ Oh oh oh ♪♪
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♪♪ Baby baby yeah ♪♪
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♪♪
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But it's that same little shape.
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Yeah.
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♪♪ But that shape is a marvelous shape ♪♪
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(Rick chuckles)
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♪♪ You can do anything
with that shape ♪♪
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You know?
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RICK: Did your dad
teach you that shape?
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No, we figured that out from‐‐
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♪♪ playing rock music on piano ♪♪
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Yeah.
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We had to know this
to do Jerry Lee Lewis.
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Yeah.
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♪♪ Oh, baby,
a whole lotta shakin' goin' on ♪♪
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RICK: Yeah.
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So once you figure that‐‐
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♪♪ playing chords ♪♪
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So it really gets
super fascinating, I think.
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Absolutely.
You know, you,
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you've got all the chords
you can play with,
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put those in permutations,
then mess with the bass notes.
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Obvious thing to do is to do
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the... the note
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one octave down
that relates to that chord.
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But you can do‐‐
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♪♪ playing melody ♪♪
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Harmony.
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♪♪
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And you, you're getting
really dramatic now.
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Yeah.
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And I think that's all we ever did,
you know, just experimented.
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Uh, with John doing Imagine,
you could hear that's him‐‐
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(humming)
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RICK: Yeah.
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It's just sort of what
we'd learned based on that.
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I saw John Legend the other night,
and John's doing this‐‐
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I forget what the song was.
And then he sort of goes‐‐
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But that's, that's those‐‐
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You, you know, if you put
some nice soul stuff over that‐‐
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♪♪ I got pain, I got my pain in my heart ♪♪
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You know?
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(indiscernible singing)
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Or‐‐
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♪♪ When I find myself
in times of trouble ♪♪
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♪♪ Mother Mary comes to me ♪♪
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Same chords.
Wow.
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♪♪ Words of wisdom ♪♪
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♪♪ Let it be ♪♪
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RICK: Wow.
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♪♪ Let it be, let it be ♪♪
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♪♪ Let it be, let it be ♪♪
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♪♪ 'Cause there will be an answer ♪♪
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♪♪ Let it be ♪♪
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♪♪ Let It Be playing ♪♪
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♪♪ Let it be, let it be ♪♪
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♪♪ Let it be, yeah, let it be ♪♪
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♪♪ There will be an answer ♪♪
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♪♪ Let it be ♪♪
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♪♪ song ends ♪♪
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Our favorite composer
was Bach in the Beatles
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'cause it was nearest
to what we were doing.
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And we would just say,
"Just put a beat behind it."
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Yeah.
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(Paul imitating drum beats)
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It'd be, it'd be better.
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Yeah.
It'd be better then.
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What I liked about it
was the mathematical thing,
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so that you kind of go‐‐
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Or Eleanor Rigby‐‐
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You do that.
So you go one, two, three, four.
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And then you found out
this is what they were doing.
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One. Two.
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And then it‐‐
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You know, so you put those together
and then on top of it, you might put‐‐
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So you've got, like, you know,
two or four or eight.
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Yeah. Yeah. In the same space.
Very simple mathematics.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's all happening together,
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so it gives this lovely feel
of something satisfying.
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Eleanor.
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Let's do it.
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Aah!
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PAUL: (on recording)
♪♪ Ah, look at all the lonely people! ♪♪
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♪♪ Ah, look at all the lonely people! ♪♪
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♪♪ Eleanor Rigby ♪♪
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♪♪ Picks up the rice in the church
where a wedding has been ♪♪
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♪♪ Lives in a dream
waits at the window ♪♪
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So that's where
they've done. Yeah.
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I remember...
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showing this to George, uh, Martin
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and we'd already done Yesterday,
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so this was like,
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it'd be nice to‐‐
I think this song could suit,
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but instead of a quartet,
it was now an octet.
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Again, just to do something
a bit different.
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And I brought it in like,
a little bit like‐‐
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♪♪ Eleanor Rigby ♪♪
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And then George would show me.
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He would say, "Well, okay,
that's sort of rock and roll."
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So all pretty much in one octave.
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RICK: Mm‐hmm.
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But he would then say,
"Okay, so a cello would go there
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"and then a viola would go there,
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and then‐‐"
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So he would separate all the notes.
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RICK: Yeah.
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And that's a fabulous orchestration
that, that he did.
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And this doesn't have
the piano in it?
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You wrote it on the piano
and then decided to‐‐
Yeah, that was‐‐
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Yeah, that was the thing
because, you know, Yesterday,
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there'd just been the one guitar.
Yeah.
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So we decided we'd kind of try
and go a little bit further...
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And just have this,
and then I would sing to this.
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You know, so I'd show George the chords.
He would then transpose it.
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Then George would talk
to the musicians, sort of say‐‐
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I want it kind of really,
bam, bam, quite bright.
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Staccato.
(imitating violin)
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And they got into it.
Yeah.
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They loved it, you know.
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It's a nice, nice little arrangement
on its own.
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Yeah.
And then I sang it.
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And I didn't think I was singing it well.
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I remember talking to George,
"I'm not singing this."
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He said, "No, it's okay. It's good."
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He was calming me down.
Mm.
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And then we double tracked it.
Mm.
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I think probably because
I didn't think I'd sung it well,
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so then... "Double track it."
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We cover any sins.
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When you first heard
it played by the octet...
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Mm.
...what was the feeling like?
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It was very exciting, actually.
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Downstairs in Abbey Road,
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the eight guys assembled
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and they did it live.
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Did you listen from the control room?
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Do you remember?
Yeah.
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I would, I would
kind of go down and say hi
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and, you know,
listen to it down there.
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Which is always nice first.
Yeah.
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Then you go up and see
what the engineers are making of it.
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You know, they'd put it all together.
Yeah.
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Put the right little bits
of fairy dust on it.
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And they, they now made it
like a record.
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♪♪
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It's funny. On the EMI desk
that we first worked on,
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there was the thing
on the end of the desk here,
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a little switch.
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You'd put it up for classical
and then down for pop.
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So ours was always in the pop position.
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It was funny 'cause we,
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(chuckles) we took things
very on face value.
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"Why have they got a better set
of EQs than we've got?"
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They said, "No, it's not better.
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"Pop, you need more of these,
sort of aggression and so and so.
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Classical, it's more,
it's sort of more mellow and stuff."
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But that was our way of thinking.
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"Wait a minute.
How come they've got that?
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We want a bit of‐‐"
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(both laugh)
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♪♪ classical music playing ♪♪
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♪♪
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With Penny Lane,
I'd come into the studio
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and the night before I happened
to be watching on television
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the Brandenburg Concerto. Bach.
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Yeah.
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I'd just kind of got it
on the background almost, you know.
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I'm listening to it.
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And then there's a little trumpet,
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very high little trumpet that Bach uses.
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Mm.
And I came in the next day,
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I said to George, I said,
"George, wha‐‐" Martin.
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Yeah.
I said "What was that?"
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He said, "Oh, that's a piccolo trumpet."
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♪♪
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Funny thing about George, he knew
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all the best players...
Yeah.
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from the classical orchestras.
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And there's a guy called David Mason
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who was a really good player.
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And so we just booked him.
Yeah.
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So we go in there
and we've done the track,
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and we're ready to put this,
we've left room for a solo.
255
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George and David sort of say,
256
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"Okay, so what do we,
what do we want to play?"
257
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And I go, um,
258
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(imitating trumpets)
259
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And they go, "Okay, hang on."
260
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And they're writing it down.
261
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(humming)
262
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So we were kind of
making it up on the spot.
263
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Yeah.
264
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And so I went‐‐
(imitating high trumpet note)
265
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and put, like,
an impossible high note.
266
00:11:34,883 --> 00:11:37,385
And David Mason turns
to me, he says,
267
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"Well, that's officially
268
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out of the range
of the piccolo trumpet even."
269
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And I kind of give him
a look like, "Yeah."
270
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Like, "You can do it," you know.
271
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He goes, "Okay."
272
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So he plays it and it's, uh,
273
00:11:54,235 --> 00:11:55,737
it haunted him
for the rest of his life, you know.
274
00:11:55,737 --> 00:11:57,614
Let's hear this.
Yeah.
275
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♪♪ Penny Lane playing ♪♪
276
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The flute's beautiful too.
277
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Yeah, I think it's a mix of the two.
278
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♪♪
279
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♪♪ trumpet playing high notes ♪♪
280
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♪♪
281
00:12:14,547 --> 00:12:15,465
Wow!
282
00:12:15,465 --> 00:12:19,302
♪♪ trumpet continues ♪♪
283
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It's singing.
Yeah.
284
00:12:20,386 --> 00:12:23,973
♪♪
285
00:12:23,973 --> 00:12:26,893
PAUL: (on recording)
♪♪ Penny Lane is in my ears ♪♪
286
00:12:26,893 --> 00:12:29,062
Whoa!
That was cool.
287
00:12:33,983 --> 00:12:37,695
♪♪ Four of fish and finger pies ♪♪
288
00:12:37,695 --> 00:12:40,698
♪♪ In summer, meanwhile back ♪♪
289
00:12:40,698 --> 00:12:44,661
♪♪ Behind the shelter
in the middle of a roundabout ♪♪
290
00:12:44,661 --> 00:12:46,663
♪♪ A pretty nurse is selling... ♪♪
291
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It's a groove you can listen to all day.
292
00:12:48,581 --> 00:12:50,416
You know, it's just like‐‐
Yeah.
293
00:12:50,917 --> 00:12:52,835
That feeling doesn't get old.
294
00:12:53,378 --> 00:12:55,588
♪♪ She is anyway ♪♪
295
00:12:56,256 --> 00:12:57,924
♪♪ Very strange ♪♪
296
00:12:57,924 --> 00:13:01,719
♪♪ Penny Lane is in my ears... ♪♪
297
00:13:01,719 --> 00:13:03,304
Now these are more funky.
298
00:13:03,304 --> 00:13:04,347
Yeah.
299
00:13:04,347 --> 00:13:07,225
♪♪ trumpet playing ♪♪
300
00:13:08,184 --> 00:13:12,188
I don't think this is David.
This is other players.
301
00:13:12,188 --> 00:13:14,983
♪♪ I sit and meanwhile back ♪♪
302
00:13:14,983 --> 00:13:16,651
♪♪
303
00:13:16,651 --> 00:13:19,362
I never heard that before.
Crash sound. It was cool.
304
00:13:19,362 --> 00:13:21,239
I've heard it. Yeah. Yeah.
(rolls tongue)
305
00:13:21,239 --> 00:13:22,323
Oh.
306
00:13:22,323 --> 00:13:23,908
They're so, they're so high.
307
00:13:23,908 --> 00:13:28,746
♪♪
308
00:13:29,289 --> 00:13:31,291
Ridiculous.
Beautiful.
309
00:13:31,291 --> 00:13:34,961
♪♪
310
00:13:34,961 --> 00:13:39,966
♪♪ song ends ♪♪
311
00:13:39,966 --> 00:13:42,135
And that's an example,
there at the end, that‐‐
312
00:13:42,135 --> 00:13:43,303
(whistles)
Yeah.
313
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I mean, anyone else would go,
"Oh, that's feedback."
314
00:13:46,222 --> 00:13:47,348
Yeah.
"Let's get rid of it."
315
00:13:47,348 --> 00:13:48,892
And it well might be feedback.
316
00:13:48,892 --> 00:13:50,101
I don't remember.
Yeah.
317
00:13:50,101 --> 00:13:52,270
But with us, going,
"No, it sounds good."
318
00:13:52,270 --> 00:13:53,521
Yeah.
You know, "It's great.
319
00:13:53,521 --> 00:13:54,856
It's fine," you know.
320
00:13:55,273 --> 00:13:59,027
So we'd leave accidents a lot of the time.
Yeah.
321
00:13:59,027 --> 00:14:01,738
Would the engineers ever fight back,
like, if you did something
322
00:14:01,738 --> 00:14:03,823
and didn't like the way the meters
were looking or anything like that?
323
00:14:03,823 --> 00:14:05,033
In the beginning, yeah.
Yeah.
324
00:14:05,033 --> 00:14:06,534
PAUL: Because they're trained...
RICK: Yeah.
325
00:14:06,534 --> 00:14:08,578
PAUL: ...by the record company
326
00:14:08,578 --> 00:14:10,079
to follow the meters.
327
00:14:10,079 --> 00:14:11,414
You're not supposed
to go in the red.
328
00:14:11,414 --> 00:14:13,124
RICK: Yeah.
PAUL: Obviously, you know.
329
00:14:13,124 --> 00:14:15,460
But we'd say, "No,
go in the red. Go in the red."
330
00:14:16,044 --> 00:14:18,630
'Cause it would make
the guitars, like, hot,
331
00:14:18,630 --> 00:14:21,883
make an acoustic guitar,
like, into an electric guitar.
332
00:14:21,883 --> 00:14:23,635
Yeah.
These days, it's not so easy.
333
00:14:23,635 --> 00:14:26,971
These older boards, you could defeat them.
334
00:14:26,971 --> 00:14:29,349
If we went into the red,
it would distort a bit.
335
00:14:29,349 --> 00:14:30,016
Yeah.
336
00:14:30,016 --> 00:14:32,227
Now they're rather good,
and they can handle it.
337
00:14:32,227 --> 00:14:33,019
I see.
338
00:14:33,019 --> 00:14:34,270
Which is a pity.
Yeah.
339
00:14:34,270 --> 00:14:36,147
Because, you know,
we used to love that.
340
00:14:36,981 --> 00:14:39,067
Would you ever,
after recording a guitar song,
341
00:14:39,067 --> 00:14:42,570
decide to reinforce
the guitars with piano or‐‐
342
00:14:42,570 --> 00:14:43,863
Yeah, sometimes. Yeah.
343
00:14:43,863 --> 00:14:45,448
Sometimes, it's really a good idea.
344
00:14:45,448 --> 00:14:47,075
Say you've got a little bass part.
345
00:14:47,075 --> 00:14:48,952
Yeah.
And the bass is doing a‐‐
346
00:14:49,536 --> 00:14:53,414
(humming)
347
00:14:53,414 --> 00:14:55,833
Then you can come‐‐
♪♪ playing piano ♪♪
348
00:14:55,833 --> 00:14:58,002
♪♪
349
00:14:58,002 --> 00:15:00,380
That combined
with a bass is a great sound.
350
00:15:00,380 --> 00:15:01,047
RICK: Yeah.
351
00:15:01,047 --> 00:15:03,424
PAUL: This gives it the punch.
RICK: Yeah.
352
00:15:03,424 --> 00:15:05,552
(Paul imitating drumbeat)
The attack.
353
00:15:05,552 --> 00:15:06,803
Yeah.
PAUL: Yeah.
354
00:15:06,803 --> 00:15:11,558
♪♪ playing up‐tempo music ♪♪
355
00:15:11,558 --> 00:15:15,603
♪♪
356
00:15:18,898 --> 00:15:19,858
Yeah.
357
00:15:20,608 --> 00:15:22,861
This reminds me a bit of the piano
358
00:15:22,861 --> 00:15:25,029
that's still there
in Abbey Road, actually.
359
00:15:25,029 --> 00:15:27,615
We used to call it Mrs. Mills' piano
360
00:15:27,615 --> 00:15:30,118
'cause there was a pianist
who did all this sort of‐‐
361
00:15:30,118 --> 00:15:31,286
♪♪ plays piano and hums ♪♪
362
00:15:31,286 --> 00:15:33,371
And you're like‐‐
(hums)
363
00:15:33,371 --> 00:15:35,248
I can't play it. Stride.
364
00:15:35,248 --> 00:15:39,127
♪♪ playing upbeat music ♪♪
365
00:15:39,127 --> 00:15:42,338
♪♪
366
00:15:45,216 --> 00:15:47,886
PAUL:
And Mrs. Mills' piano inspired that.
367
00:15:47,886 --> 00:15:48,845
Hmm.
You know?
368
00:15:48,845 --> 00:15:50,597
I mean, I wrote it at home.
Yeah.
369
00:15:50,597 --> 00:15:54,267
But it was like, "No, got to do this
on that funky little piano."
370
00:15:54,809 --> 00:15:56,352
And songs like that,
371
00:15:56,352 --> 00:15:58,980
um, I like to kind of change
my voice a bit.
372
00:15:59,439 --> 00:16:01,816
So I like to sort of get
a harder voice.
373
00:16:01,816 --> 00:16:04,903
(hard voice)
♪♪ Lady Madonna ♪♪
374
00:16:04,903 --> 00:16:06,821
Instead of...
(soft voice) ♪♪ Lady Madonna ♪♪
375
00:16:06,821 --> 00:16:08,823
So you're going...
(hard voice) ♪♪ Lady Madonna ♪♪
376
00:16:09,449 --> 00:16:11,242
♪♪ Children at your feet ♪♪
377
00:16:11,701 --> 00:16:16,206
♪♪ Wonder how you manage
to make ends meet ♪♪
378
00:16:16,206 --> 00:16:18,082
♪♪ Lady Madonna ♪♪
379
00:16:18,583 --> 00:16:19,626
♪♪ Yeah ♪♪
380
00:16:19,626 --> 00:16:21,127
So the singer would be
the same guy
381
00:16:21,127 --> 00:16:22,921
who's playing that piano part,
makes sense.
382
00:16:22,921 --> 00:16:24,297
Yeah.
It's almost like a character study.
383
00:16:24,297 --> 00:16:25,256
Yeah. Yeah.
384
00:16:25,715 --> 00:16:28,509
I‐I‐It's one of the things
I'd like to do, you know.
385
00:16:29,594 --> 00:16:34,098
♪♪ instruments tuning on recording ♪♪
♪♪ vocalizing on recording ♪♪
386
00:16:34,098 --> 00:16:36,017
Love that sound
of the tape starting.
387
00:16:36,017 --> 00:16:37,310
Yeah. It's such a good sound.
388
00:16:37,310 --> 00:16:38,895
PAUL: (on recording)
...three, four.
389
00:16:38,895 --> 00:16:43,191
♪♪ Paul McCartney & Wings'
Band On The Run playing ♪♪
390
00:16:43,191 --> 00:16:44,734
(indiscernible talking)
391
00:16:46,986 --> 00:16:48,988
MAN: (on recording)
I sit and watch all the children.
392
00:16:49,781 --> 00:16:51,074
Yeah.
Walking by...
393
00:16:52,992 --> 00:16:54,536
They seem to say to me...
394
00:16:54,953 --> 00:16:57,247
I couldn't tell what she was thinking.
395
00:16:59,165 --> 00:17:00,166
But I knew
396
00:17:01,125 --> 00:17:02,752
it was through.
397
00:17:06,089 --> 00:17:10,927
Yeah, my, my record label,
they've got studios everywhere, you know.
398
00:17:11,261 --> 00:17:13,346
Brazil. China.
399
00:17:13,846 --> 00:17:16,266
And I was into tenor guitar.
400
00:17:16,266 --> 00:17:19,769
(imitating guitar)
401
00:17:19,769 --> 00:17:21,104
Little sort of Africany thing.
402
00:17:21,563 --> 00:17:24,190
So I liked that,
so I just plunked for Lagos.
403
00:17:24,190 --> 00:17:25,400
Let's go there.
404
00:17:26,442 --> 00:17:27,819
Okay, now go, boy.
405
00:17:27,819 --> 00:17:32,115
PAUL: (on recording)
♪♪ Stuck inside these four walls ♪♪
406
00:17:33,783 --> 00:17:35,326
♪♪ Sent inside forever ♪♪
407
00:17:35,326 --> 00:17:37,745
Really good vocal. It's a good vocal.
408
00:17:37,745 --> 00:17:39,706
It's a nice, like, gentle little‐‐
409
00:17:39,706 --> 00:17:44,210
♪♪ Never seeing no one ♪♪
410
00:17:45,628 --> 00:17:49,674
♪♪ Nice again ♪♪
411
00:17:50,717 --> 00:17:53,678
♪♪ Like you ♪♪
412
00:17:54,429 --> 00:17:59,017
♪♪ Mama, you ♪♪
413
00:17:59,017 --> 00:18:00,643
I'm drumming on this too.
414
00:18:01,853 --> 00:18:03,396
Couple of members of my band
415
00:18:03,396 --> 00:18:05,565
rang me up the night
before we were due to leave.
416
00:18:05,565 --> 00:18:06,858
They said, "We're not coming."
417
00:18:07,483 --> 00:18:08,735
For an hour or so, it was like,
418
00:18:08,735 --> 00:18:10,778
"Oh, what a bummer.
I don't believe it,"
419
00:18:10,778 --> 00:18:12,322
you know, "God," you know.
420
00:18:12,322 --> 00:18:16,659
And then a sort of
optimistic spirit came back,
421
00:18:16,659 --> 00:18:18,077
and I sort of thought,
422
00:18:18,077 --> 00:18:20,205
"You know what?
We're going to make a record."
423
00:18:20,205 --> 00:18:22,290
♪♪
424
00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:23,750
(indistinct)
425
00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:25,501
Yeah.
426
00:18:27,629 --> 00:18:28,630
There was a little period
427
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:32,342
when certain people
started writing, like, "rock opera."
428
00:18:32,342 --> 00:18:32,884
Yeah.
429
00:18:32,884 --> 00:18:36,095
It was kind of nice.
It was, like, different.
430
00:18:36,888 --> 00:18:38,306
So I thought I could have a go at it.
431
00:18:38,306 --> 00:18:44,145
♪♪ Band On the Run continues ♪♪
432
00:18:44,145 --> 00:18:47,524
♪♪
433
00:18:48,066 --> 00:18:50,276
Is that a Moog?
Yeah.
434
00:18:50,276 --> 00:18:52,779
♪♪ If I ever get out of here ♪♪
435
00:18:53,196 --> 00:18:55,740
♪♪ Thought of giving it all away ♪♪
436
00:18:56,115 --> 00:18:58,660
♪♪ To a registered charity ♪♪
437
00:18:59,035 --> 00:19:01,204
♪♪ All I need is a pint a day ♪♪
438
00:19:01,204 --> 00:19:03,665
♪♪ If I ever get outta here ♪♪
439
00:19:04,165 --> 00:19:06,834
♪♪ If we ever get outta here ♪♪
440
00:19:06,834 --> 00:19:11,256
♪♪
441
00:19:14,968 --> 00:19:19,556
♪♪ music crescendos ♪♪
442
00:19:19,556 --> 00:19:21,975
Yeah, again,
unexpected twists and turns.
443
00:19:21,975 --> 00:19:23,560
Yeah. Yeah.
Cinematic.
444
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,355
♪♪ Well, the rain exploded
with a mighty crash ♪♪
445
00:19:27,355 --> 00:19:30,024
♪♪ As we fell into the sun ♪♪
446
00:19:31,150 --> 00:19:35,238
♪♪ And the first one said
to the second one there ♪♪
447
00:19:35,238 --> 00:19:38,658
♪♪ "I hope you're having fun" ♪♪
448
00:19:39,117 --> 00:19:41,536
♪♪ Band on the run ♪♪
449
00:19:42,912 --> 00:19:45,456
♪♪ Band on the run ♪♪
450
00:19:45,456 --> 00:19:50,169
PAUL: So we went to Lagos where the studio
was just being kind of finished,
451
00:19:50,169 --> 00:19:51,629
but it was good.
452
00:19:51,629 --> 00:19:57,302
And I had with me the tapes
of all the songs for the album.
453
00:19:57,302 --> 00:19:57,969
Mm‐hmm.
454
00:19:57,969 --> 00:20:01,055
However, we were warned,
whatever you do,
455
00:20:01,055 --> 00:20:04,017
don't go out late
in certain areas.
456
00:20:04,475 --> 00:20:07,395
And, so of course,
we go to a friend's house,
457
00:20:07,395 --> 00:20:08,855
and we go out late at night.
458
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,317
Hippies. We just
did not listen to anyone.
459
00:20:12,859 --> 00:20:14,068
So a car pulls up.
460
00:20:14,652 --> 00:20:16,196
The guy gets out of the car,
461
00:20:17,238 --> 00:20:20,450
and, and I go
into Liverpool mode.
462
00:20:20,450 --> 00:20:23,453
I go, "Oh, that is so nice of you."
463
00:20:23,453 --> 00:20:24,162
(Rick chuckles)
464
00:20:24,162 --> 00:20:26,247
"You're going to give us a lift.
No, get back in your car."
465
00:20:26,247 --> 00:20:28,333
So I bundle him back in the car.
Yeah.
466
00:20:28,333 --> 00:20:31,085
Five of them jumped out the car,
one of them had a knife.
467
00:20:32,003 --> 00:20:34,339
Linda's, aah! Screaming at them.
468
00:20:34,339 --> 00:20:38,176
So they took all our stuff,
including my demos for Band On The Run.
469
00:20:38,176 --> 00:20:40,803
That was the only thing
I was really pissed about.
470
00:20:40,803 --> 00:20:41,554
Yeah.
471
00:20:41,554 --> 00:20:45,308
And so now we had to make
the album with just three of us,
472
00:20:45,308 --> 00:20:48,728
me, Linda, and Denny,
without the demo recordings.
473
00:20:48,728 --> 00:20:49,812
Yes.
474
00:20:49,812 --> 00:20:52,023
And so, again, we just thought,
475
00:20:52,023 --> 00:20:54,651
(sighs)
"Right, let's do this."
476
00:20:54,651 --> 00:20:57,362
And we just became determined
477
00:20:57,362 --> 00:21:01,491
to, to make it a... a good record.
478
00:21:01,491 --> 00:21:04,035
♪♪ Yeah, the band on the run ♪♪
479
00:21:05,286 --> 00:21:07,705
♪♪ Band on the run ♪♪
480
00:21:09,541 --> 00:21:13,545
Do you feel like by going there,
it impacted the album?
481
00:21:13,545 --> 00:21:15,213
I was kind of half wondering
482
00:21:15,213 --> 00:21:19,008
whether we'd pick up
a lot of African vibes
483
00:21:19,008 --> 00:21:20,927
and maybe musicians,
484
00:21:20,927 --> 00:21:22,470
bit Graceland thing, you know.
Yeah.
485
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:24,597
Um, but we didn't.
486
00:21:24,597 --> 00:21:28,059
The only thing happened was
I went to see Fela Kuti.
487
00:21:28,601 --> 00:21:30,895
♪♪ singing ITT
(International Thief Thief) ♪♪
488
00:21:30,895 --> 00:21:31,813
♪♪ Long time ago ♪♪
489
00:21:31,813 --> 00:21:34,148
♪♪ Na for them culture
to carry shit ♪♪
490
00:21:34,148 --> 00:21:35,483
♪♪ Long time ago ♪♪
491
00:21:35,483 --> 00:21:37,652
♪♪ During the time
them come colonize us ♪♪
492
00:21:37,652 --> 00:21:38,987
♪♪ Long time ago ♪♪
493
00:21:38,987 --> 00:21:41,197
♪♪ Them come teach us
to carry shit ♪♪
494
00:21:41,197 --> 00:21:42,490
♪♪ Long time ago ♪♪
495
00:21:42,490 --> 00:21:44,617
♪♪ Long, long, long, long time ago ♪♪
496
00:21:44,617 --> 00:21:46,077
♪♪ Long time ago ♪♪
497
00:21:46,077 --> 00:21:49,873
♪♪
498
00:21:54,335 --> 00:21:56,170
PAUL: This was at the Afrika Shrine,
499
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,549
which was his club outside Lagos.
RICK: Yeah.
500
00:22:00,425 --> 00:22:03,887
You're sitting right by him.
Front row seats.
501
00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:05,013
Yeah.
502
00:22:05,013 --> 00:22:07,098
What was the energy
in the room like?
503
00:22:07,098 --> 00:22:08,474
The energy was great.
It was all‐‐
504
00:22:08,474 --> 00:22:10,143
Were people dancing or‐‐
Yeah.
505
00:22:10,143 --> 00:22:11,060
Yeah.
Yeah.
506
00:22:11,060 --> 00:22:14,814
When he came on
and his band kicked in, whoa.
507
00:22:14,814 --> 00:22:16,816
I still remember the riff.
508
00:22:16,816 --> 00:22:19,986
♪♪ playing ITT on piano ♪♪
509
00:22:19,986 --> 00:22:23,072
♪♪
510
00:22:30,538 --> 00:22:31,372
So cool.
511
00:22:32,123 --> 00:22:33,416
And his whole band kicked in.
512
00:22:33,416 --> 00:22:38,630
♪♪
513
00:22:39,714 --> 00:22:41,507
So there was Fela at the front
514
00:22:41,507 --> 00:22:43,551
with a little (indiscernible) piano.
515
00:22:44,302 --> 00:22:48,139
And the middle, at the back,
he's got two conga players.
516
00:22:48,598 --> 00:22:50,433
They're like the rhythm box.
RICK: Yeah.
517
00:22:50,433 --> 00:22:53,436
They're just going...
(imitating congas)
518
00:22:53,436 --> 00:22:54,729
They're keeping that same rhythm.
519
00:22:55,355 --> 00:22:58,233
This side and that side, like stereo,
520
00:22:58,233 --> 00:23:01,319
and he's got the shakers...
(imitating shakers)
521
00:23:02,904 --> 00:23:04,906
And the drummer, he would go‐‐
522
00:23:04,906 --> 00:23:08,535
(imitating drums)
523
00:23:08,535 --> 00:23:09,661
RICK: Fills.
524
00:23:09,661 --> 00:23:11,329
Kind of fills.
Yeah. Yeah.
525
00:23:11,329 --> 00:23:12,455
PAUL: Two guitars.
526
00:23:12,455 --> 00:23:14,123
One's the tenor guitar,
527
00:23:14,123 --> 00:23:16,376
and the other one's
a little bit more lead guitar.
528
00:23:16,834 --> 00:23:18,002
Then he's got his sax section.
529
00:23:18,795 --> 00:23:20,004
(imitating sax)
530
00:23:20,004 --> 00:23:23,550
♪♪
531
00:23:23,550 --> 00:23:27,554
The music was so incredible that I wept,
532
00:23:28,805 --> 00:23:30,807
just when it hit on the groove.
533
00:23:30,807 --> 00:23:35,812
♪♪
534
00:23:38,857 --> 00:23:42,569
That was one of the greatest
music moments in my life.
535
00:23:42,569 --> 00:23:45,238
Yeah. Yeah. It sounds incredible.
Hearing that song live.
536
00:23:47,657 --> 00:23:48,825
Beautiful.
537
00:23:48,825 --> 00:23:50,743
I'm going to play something else,
538
00:23:50,743 --> 00:23:52,662
a very different energy.
539
00:23:53,913 --> 00:23:55,331
(Paul humming)
540
00:23:55,331 --> 00:23:57,458
What you got now?
I've got this one.
541
00:23:59,210 --> 00:24:00,545
It will be fun to hear.
542
00:24:02,171 --> 00:24:04,090
PAUL: (on recording)
♪♪ Don't go ♪♪
543
00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:08,511
♪♪ Jumping waterfalls ♪♪
544
00:24:09,387 --> 00:24:14,934
♪♪ Please keep to the lake ♪♪
545
00:24:14,934 --> 00:24:16,644
It's a pretty little song this. Yeah.
546
00:24:17,562 --> 00:24:19,272
He said modestly.
(Rick chuckles)
547
00:24:19,272 --> 00:24:22,025
♪♪ People who jump waterfalls ♪♪
548
00:24:22,025 --> 00:24:27,989
♪♪ Sometimes can make mistakes ♪♪
549
00:24:29,032 --> 00:24:31,284
♪♪ And I need love ♪♪
550
00:24:31,284 --> 00:24:34,996
This is also, even though
it's not an electronic song,
551
00:24:34,996 --> 00:24:37,624
this melody is very today.
552
00:24:37,624 --> 00:24:39,667
This is a very modern melody.
You think so?
553
00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:40,960
I know so.
554
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,463
It's like un‐It doesn't‐‐
555
00:24:43,463 --> 00:24:46,007
This sounds like
you could hear this now
556
00:24:46,841 --> 00:24:48,426
in an unusual way.
557
00:24:49,385 --> 00:24:52,889
♪♪ And it wouldn't be the same ♪♪
558
00:24:52,889 --> 00:24:56,017
♪♪ If you ever should decide ♪♪
559
00:24:56,434 --> 00:25:00,355
♪♪ To go away ♪♪
560
00:25:01,022 --> 00:25:04,692
♪♪
561
00:25:05,193 --> 00:25:08,655
It kind of did get lost
on the album,
562
00:25:08,655 --> 00:25:12,408
but sort of deep fans know that one.
Yeah.
563
00:25:12,408 --> 00:25:14,786
Yes.
And often write to me about it.
564
00:25:15,370 --> 00:25:18,706
Yeah, yeah.
I think I slightly regretted
565
00:25:18,706 --> 00:25:21,125
that the strings on it
566
00:25:21,125 --> 00:25:23,753
are just a little weedy,
synth little things.
567
00:25:23,753 --> 00:25:25,630
I think that might be part
what makes it modern, though.
568
00:25:25,630 --> 00:25:27,131
Maybe. Well‐‐
569
00:25:27,131 --> 00:25:28,758
Do you know, it's like‐‐
I don't know. It's the‐
570
00:25:28,758 --> 00:25:30,677
Hey, you know,
the thing is I can have regrets.
571
00:25:30,677 --> 00:25:31,719
They don't have to be right.
572
00:25:31,719 --> 00:25:33,388
(Rick laughs)
Do you know what I'm saying?
573
00:25:33,388 --> 00:25:35,640
I think all of us, we go,
"Oh, we should've done that."
574
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,100
Yeah.
Somebody else will say, "No.
575
00:25:37,850 --> 00:25:39,978
You don't need to. That‐that's fine."
So...
576
00:25:39,978 --> 00:25:42,939
But I don't see you as someone,
as having a lot of regrets,
577
00:25:42,939 --> 00:25:44,357
looking back on music that you made.
578
00:25:44,357 --> 00:25:45,483
Not really. No.
579
00:25:46,526 --> 00:25:47,902
Forge ahead.
580
00:25:47,902 --> 00:25:49,112
Yeah.
Constantly.
581
00:25:49,445 --> 00:25:50,446
And, um,
582
00:25:51,447 --> 00:25:52,657
well, that's what I love.
583
00:25:53,449 --> 00:25:55,118
That's what I love about it.
Yeah.
584
00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:56,995
Music. Life.
585
00:25:57,745 --> 00:26:01,207
That there's, there's always
that next little song...
586
00:26:01,207 --> 00:26:02,041
Yeah.
587
00:26:02,041 --> 00:26:05,211
that you can be
thinking about or writing.
588
00:26:05,587 --> 00:26:07,714
♪♪ soft melody ♪♪
589
00:26:07,714 --> 00:26:09,382
You know, I'm writing
a thing at the moment.
590
00:26:09,382 --> 00:26:12,886
♪♪ mid‐tempo music playing ♪♪
591
00:26:12,886 --> 00:26:15,471
♪♪
592
00:26:15,471 --> 00:26:16,306
RICK: Oh.
593
00:26:18,266 --> 00:26:19,058
That's great.
594
00:26:19,601 --> 00:26:20,476
That's great.
595
00:26:20,476 --> 00:26:22,437
♪♪
596
00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:30,570
♪♪ Life can be hard ♪♪
597
00:26:31,696 --> 00:26:32,822
♪♪ But then ♪♪
598
00:26:32,822 --> 00:26:34,699
So good.
♪♪ That's when we start ♪♪
599
00:26:35,283 --> 00:26:38,203
♪♪ To put it together again ♪♪
600
00:26:39,495 --> 00:26:41,122
♪♪ She leads me on ♪♪
601
00:26:41,122 --> 00:26:42,248
Yeah.
602
00:26:42,248 --> 00:26:45,877
♪♪ And I'm enchanted
by her beauty ♪♪
603
00:26:45,877 --> 00:26:49,631
♪♪
604
00:26:49,631 --> 00:26:50,423
Yeah.
605
00:26:52,175 --> 00:26:53,259
Incredible.
606
00:26:53,259 --> 00:26:54,844
Oh good, man. Oh great.
Really good.
607
00:26:54,844 --> 00:26:57,847
I goofed it a bit, but‐‐
No, but it sounds like it‐‐
608
00:26:57,847 --> 00:27:00,099
The beauty of it is,
when I hear it, it sounds like,
609
00:27:00,099 --> 00:27:02,060
"Oh, this is a song
that's always been around."
610
00:27:02,060 --> 00:27:04,062
You know like it‐In a good way.
Like "You know this one."
611
00:27:04,062 --> 00:27:05,772
But not in a way that
I've actually heard it before,
612
00:27:05,772 --> 00:27:08,775
but in a, like, "Oh yeah,
this is like one of those songs
613
00:27:08,775 --> 00:27:10,151
that feels like it's in the air."
614
00:27:10,151 --> 00:27:11,569
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
615
00:27:11,569 --> 00:27:13,655
That's what I've sort of done
all my life.
616
00:27:13,655 --> 00:27:15,657
That's what I'm still doing.
Yeah. Yeah.
617
00:27:15,657 --> 00:27:19,577
Just trying to discover just
a little thing that sounds nice.
618
00:27:20,245 --> 00:27:22,247
Someone said Mozart once said,
619
00:27:22,247 --> 00:27:24,541
"I write the notes
that like each other."
620
00:27:25,792 --> 00:27:27,210
And I like that.
Yeah.
621
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:29,254
I like that. Sounds good to me. (laughs)
Yeah. Yeah.
622
00:27:30,088 --> 00:27:32,966
♪♪ playing Blackbird ♪♪
623
00:27:34,008 --> 00:27:38,596
♪♪
624
00:27:38,596 --> 00:27:43,142
♪♪ Blackbird singing
in the dead of night ♪♪
625
00:27:43,142 --> 00:27:47,105
♪♪ Take these broken wings
and learn to fly ♪♪
626
00:27:48,398 --> 00:27:51,526
♪♪ All your life ♪♪
627
00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:57,490
♪♪ You were only waiting
for this moment to arise ♪♪
628
00:27:57,490 --> 00:28:01,286
♪♪
629
00:28:02,495 --> 00:28:06,291
♪♪ Blackbird singing
in the dead of night ♪♪
630
00:28:07,041 --> 00:28:11,296
♪♪ Take these sunken eyes
and learn to see ♪♪
631
00:28:12,255 --> 00:28:15,300
♪♪ All your life ♪♪
632
00:28:16,092 --> 00:28:21,097
♪♪ You were only waiting
for this moment to be free ♪♪
633
00:28:21,097 --> 00:28:25,894
♪♪ Blackbird fly ♪♪
634
00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:30,607
♪♪ Blackbird fly ♪♪
635
00:28:30,607 --> 00:28:34,569
♪♪ Into the light
of the dark black night ♪♪
636
00:28:34,569 --> 00:28:37,488
♪♪
637
00:28:40,116 --> 00:28:45,997
(humming)
638
00:28:45,997 --> 00:28:51,336
♪♪
639
00:28:51,336 --> 00:28:52,337
PAUL: Yeah, right, I know.
640
00:28:53,338 --> 00:28:54,339
(chuckles)
641
00:28:56,925 --> 00:28:58,343
Okay, man, great.
642
00:28:58,843 --> 00:29:02,931
♪♪
643
00:29:02,931 --> 00:29:04,682
♪♪ Night ♪♪
(static cuts out)
644
00:29:04,682 --> 00:29:09,354
♪♪ Blackbird resumes ♪♪
645
00:29:09,354 --> 00:29:13,691
♪♪
646
00:29:18,696 --> 00:29:23,243
♪♪ Blackbird fly ♪♪
647
00:29:23,743 --> 00:29:27,997
♪♪ Blackbird fly ♪♪
648
00:29:27,997 --> 00:29:31,876
♪♪ Into the light
of the dark black night ♪♪
649
00:29:31,876 --> 00:29:34,963
♪♪
650
00:29:35,797 --> 00:29:40,468
♪♪ Blackbird singing
in the dead of night ♪♪
651
00:29:40,468 --> 00:29:43,888
♪♪ Take these broken wings
and learn to fly ♪♪
652
00:29:45,682 --> 00:29:48,851
♪♪ All your life ♪♪
653
00:29:49,561 --> 00:29:54,232
♪♪ You were only waiting
for this moment to arise ♪♪
654
00:29:54,607 --> 00:30:00,363
♪♪ You were only waiting
for this moment to arise ♪♪