1 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:10,528 -On the eve of the millennium, as some Americans party 2 00:00:10,552 --> 00:00:12,572 like it's 1999... 3 00:00:12,596 --> 00:00:15,074 -Six. Five. Four. 4 00:00:15,098 --> 00:00:17,160 - others believe the end of the '90s... 5 00:00:17,184 --> 00:00:18,620 -3, 2... 6 00:00:18,644 --> 00:00:21,122 - marks a countdown to the end of the world. 7 00:00:21,146 --> 00:00:23,291 - 1. Happy 2000! 8 00:00:23,315 --> 00:00:26,377 -Y2K is like a perfect scenario for the collapse of society. 9 00:00:26,401 --> 00:00:30,048 -For many, the fear is from a computer glitch long ignored. 10 00:00:30,072 --> 00:00:32,967 -It could happen that planes fall out of the sky. 11 00:00:32,991 --> 00:00:35,929 -Could the omission of two simple digits 12 00:00:35,953 --> 00:00:39,224 affect the destiny of all humankind? 13 00:00:39,248 --> 00:00:42,060 - But for others... - It's called The Militia, 14 00:00:42,084 --> 00:00:45,230 and by God, no constable is going to break their door down. 15 00:00:45,254 --> 00:00:47,440 They'll shoot them first. 16 00:00:47,464 --> 00:00:51,069 -Y2K is another government plot to steal their freedom. 17 00:00:51,093 --> 00:00:53,279 -This is the biggest lie that's ever been put 18 00:00:53,303 --> 00:00:54,739 before the American public. 19 00:00:54,763 --> 00:00:57,116 -It all spreads panic and paranoia. 20 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:59,452 {\an8}-Countdown to Y2K begins. 21 00:00:59,476 --> 00:01:01,412 {\an8}Gentlemen, caulk your bunkers. 22 00:01:01,436 --> 00:01:04,707 -Until everyone wonders, is this "Apocalypse Now?" 23 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:06,417 -This is not one of those summer movies 24 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:09,420 where you can close your eyes during the scary parts. 25 00:01:09,444 --> 00:01:17,444 {\an8}♪♪ 26 00:01:20,956 --> 00:01:22,475 [ Dial-up modems screeching ] 27 00:01:22,499 --> 00:01:30,499 {\an8}♪♪ 28 00:01:33,677 --> 00:01:35,238 {\an8}-Randy Weaver brought his family 29 00:01:35,262 --> 00:01:37,615 {\an8}to the top of this mountain nine years ago 30 00:01:37,639 --> 00:01:39,784 {\an8}because he wanted to be left alone. 31 00:01:39,808 --> 00:01:42,078 {\an8}Now, a force of 200 police, federal agents, 32 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:44,914 {\an8}and the National Guard have surrounded the house. 33 00:01:44,938 --> 00:01:48,584 -Early in the 1990s, the ATF and other federal officers 34 00:01:48,608 --> 00:01:50,044 attempt to execute a warrant 35 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:52,880 on anti-government survivalist Randy Weaver 36 00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:55,216 over an outstanding weapons charge. 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,928 It leads to an 11-day standoff in Ruby Ridge, Idaho. 38 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:01,514 -Weaver is wanted on charges of selling two illegal 39 00:02:01,538 --> 00:02:04,684 sawed-off shotguns to a federal informer. 40 00:02:04,708 --> 00:02:06,853 -When the smoke clears, Weaver's wife, 41 00:02:06,877 --> 00:02:10,607 their 14 year-old-son, and a U.S. marshal are dead, 42 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:14,652 leaving anti-government anger simmering among his supporters. 43 00:02:14,676 --> 00:02:15,903 {\an8}♪♪ 44 00:02:15,927 --> 00:02:17,655 -You're going to burn in hell! 45 00:02:17,679 --> 00:02:21,534 You have a 15-year-old son. Are you proud of yourself?! 46 00:02:21,558 --> 00:02:23,161 [ Indistinct shouting ] 47 00:02:23,185 --> 00:02:24,662 {\an8}♪♪ 48 00:02:24,686 --> 00:02:26,039 -Weaver's charged with murder, 49 00:02:26,063 --> 00:02:28,708 conspiracy, and some lesser crimes, 50 00:02:28,732 --> 00:02:32,253 but because the FBI and ATF failed to identify themselves 51 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:35,089 as law enforcement, celebrity defense lawyer 52 00:02:35,113 --> 00:02:39,510 Gary Spence successfully argued self-defense. 53 00:02:39,534 --> 00:02:41,721 -We have to stick with our rights. 54 00:02:41,745 --> 00:02:43,181 We have to fight for them. 55 00:02:43,205 --> 00:02:45,850 And if we fight for them, people can hear us. 56 00:02:45,874 --> 00:02:48,561 -The verdict legitimizes the anti-government hate 57 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:50,021 at the core of a growing movement 58 00:02:50,045 --> 00:02:52,815 of militant extremists across the country. 59 00:02:52,839 --> 00:02:55,401 -It was very easy for right wing extremists to imagine 60 00:02:55,425 --> 00:02:58,529 that the federal government was willing to go after anybody 61 00:02:58,553 --> 00:03:02,075 that it disagreed with and use lethal force in doing that. 62 00:03:02,099 --> 00:03:03,951 -And soon, that fear and paranoia 63 00:03:03,975 --> 00:03:07,121 will morph a legitimate worldwide technological crisis 64 00:03:07,145 --> 00:03:11,793 into one more example of how the feds are plotting to get them. 65 00:03:11,817 --> 00:03:16,130 The crisis is Y2K, a computer anomaly experts say 66 00:03:16,154 --> 00:03:18,966 could unleash global Armageddon. 67 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:21,636 -They had proclaimed the world is going to end tomorrow. 68 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:25,181 You know, this was doomsday. 69 00:03:25,205 --> 00:03:29,185 -People worried about technical failures. 70 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,813 {\an8}My name is Francine Uenuma. I'm a freelance writer. 71 00:03:31,837 --> 00:03:33,648 {\an8}And I wrote a piece for Time.com 72 00:03:33,672 --> 00:03:36,859 {\an8}about the 20-year anniversary of Y2K. 73 00:03:36,883 --> 00:03:39,654 There was a lot of fears about power grids, 74 00:03:39,678 --> 00:03:42,031 our broader sort of infrastructure. 75 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,617 -And nuclear power plants... 76 00:03:44,641 --> 00:03:46,411 {\an8}♪♪ 77 00:03:46,435 --> 00:03:50,206 may cease to generate the electricity we need. 78 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:52,375 -It's the kind of tricky international problem 79 00:03:52,399 --> 00:03:54,836 most people look to government to solve. 80 00:03:54,860 --> 00:03:58,047 But in the '90s, America's burgeoning militia movement 81 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:00,341 sees a trap and is arming itself 82 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:04,804 in preparation of a government clampdown. 83 00:04:04,828 --> 00:04:07,056 -The far right was on their guard. 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,269 -5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 85 00:04:11,293 --> 00:04:12,729 [ Static ] 86 00:04:12,753 --> 00:04:16,732 -But Y2K didn't have to be a crisis at all. 87 00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:19,235 Because this Canadian had been warning everyone 88 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:23,030 about this moment for 20 years. 89 00:04:23,054 --> 00:04:24,949 -Before Y2K, it was a nobody. 90 00:04:24,973 --> 00:04:27,785 I was a computer operator. 91 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:31,706 I fed paper into an IBM printer. 92 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:36,419 And then in 1979, I noticed the problem. 93 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:40,131 {\an8}I'm Peter de Jager, and I'm not only the Paul Revere of Y2K, 94 00:04:40,155 --> 00:04:43,801 {\an8}I was also the gloom and doomster. 95 00:04:43,825 --> 00:04:47,138 {\an8}♪♪ 96 00:04:47,162 --> 00:04:50,808 Back in the 1960s, 1970s, at the beginning of the day, 97 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:52,435 when you started up the computer, 98 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:53,978 so there was no place for the computer 99 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:55,438 to get the date and the time 100 00:04:55,462 --> 00:04:57,440 because the Internet didn't exist. 101 00:04:57,464 --> 00:05:00,193 So you had to enter it in. 102 00:05:00,217 --> 00:05:02,195 "Tell me what the year is." 103 00:05:02,219 --> 00:05:07,450 And you type in two digits... '79. 104 00:05:07,474 --> 00:05:09,702 -All these programs were written, you know, 105 00:05:09,726 --> 00:05:13,039 in the '50s or '60s, and data was expensive. 106 00:05:13,063 --> 00:05:16,209 And so they shortened the year to two digits. 107 00:05:16,233 --> 00:05:18,836 -Now, I'd just came out of university, 108 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:21,422 studying numerical analysis. 109 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:23,424 {\an8}♪♪ 110 00:05:23,448 --> 00:05:26,469 And I figured that, well, something is going to go wrong 111 00:05:26,493 --> 00:05:30,056 on January the 1st, year 2000. 112 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,934 Because we're going to enter "00" 113 00:05:32,958 --> 00:05:35,520 and the computer is going to think it's 1900. 114 00:05:35,544 --> 00:05:38,314 {\an8}♪♪ 115 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:42,193 -It's Peter's lightbulb moment. 116 00:05:42,217 --> 00:05:44,529 The computer's confusion over what year it is 117 00:05:44,553 --> 00:05:47,448 could lead to cataclysmic consequences. 118 00:05:47,472 --> 00:05:49,659 {\an8}♪♪ 119 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:52,703 -I started to try and make people aware of it... 120 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:54,914 My boss. 121 00:05:54,938 --> 00:05:57,291 And he said, "You're worried about a problem 122 00:05:57,315 --> 00:06:02,129 that isn't going to happen for 21 years. 123 00:06:02,153 --> 00:06:08,427 Get out of my office. Someone will fix it by then." 124 00:06:08,451 --> 00:06:11,848 -Peter's boss was misguided because even as he said, 125 00:06:11,872 --> 00:06:15,560 "Someone will fix it," those someones had been ignoring 126 00:06:15,584 --> 00:06:18,938 the two-digit date problem for decades. 127 00:06:18,962 --> 00:06:23,651 {\an8}♪♪ 128 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:30,283 -In 1970, the Scottish Bank Widows Bank ran into a problem 129 00:06:30,307 --> 00:06:33,369 when they were entering in 30-year mortgages. 130 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:37,373 The closing date of the mortgage is in the year 2000. 131 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:41,836 The computer didn't take kindly to that. 132 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:44,338 Still the standard phrase was, 133 00:06:44,362 --> 00:06:48,426 "Someone else will fix this by then." 134 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:51,470 -Of course, no one does. 135 00:06:51,494 --> 00:06:54,265 And as the world begins to explore cyberspace, 136 00:06:54,289 --> 00:06:57,810 the issue becomes even more urgent. 137 00:06:57,834 --> 00:07:03,649 -In 1989, Sir Tim Berners-Lee... He's a British scientist... 138 00:07:03,673 --> 00:07:05,610 He invented the World Wide Web, 139 00:07:05,634 --> 00:07:08,237 and that set the stage for the '90s. 140 00:07:08,261 --> 00:07:10,114 [ Dial-up modems screeching ] 141 00:07:10,138 --> 00:07:13,159 {\an8}I'm Steve Morgan, founder of Cyber Security Ventures 142 00:07:13,183 --> 00:07:17,580 {\an8}and Editor in Chief at Cybercrime magazine. 143 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:22,501 So we enter the '90s and it's a whole new world. 144 00:07:22,525 --> 00:07:26,505 It's an online world. Everybody was living differently. 145 00:07:26,529 --> 00:07:28,507 {\an8}♪♪ 146 00:07:28,531 --> 00:07:31,344 -In the early 1990s, our personal computers, 147 00:07:31,368 --> 00:07:35,348 the high-end ones, had 640K of memory. 148 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:41,562 High-density storage was 360K on a large floppy drive. 149 00:07:41,586 --> 00:07:45,066 I mean, this was the stone age of computer time. 150 00:07:45,090 --> 00:07:47,026 {\an8}♪♪ 151 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:50,196 -And as '90s PC makers try to change that. 152 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:54,200 {\an8}-Featuring the SLC processor... The fastest in its class. 153 00:07:54,224 --> 00:07:57,036 -By enthusiastically introducing faster models 154 00:07:57,060 --> 00:07:58,287 with even more memory to. 155 00:07:58,311 --> 00:08:01,123 -The PS2 SLC. 156 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:03,250 -Peter's becoming increasingly passionate 157 00:08:03,274 --> 00:08:06,921 about repairing the looming Y2K bug. 158 00:08:06,945 --> 00:08:11,342 -Truth of the matter is, Y2K offended me. 159 00:08:11,366 --> 00:08:18,849 It was a stupid, silly problem, and no one is paying attention. 160 00:08:18,873 --> 00:08:22,561 -Peter's compelled to go public with his concerns. 161 00:08:22,585 --> 00:08:24,939 -Back in 1993, I wrote the article 162 00:08:24,963 --> 00:08:30,486 that kicked all of this off... "Doomsday 2000." 163 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:33,406 It wasn't my first article on Y2K. 164 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:36,450 I had written another one called "Tick Tock, Tick Tock, 165 00:08:36,474 --> 00:08:38,119 Time's a-Wasting." 166 00:08:38,143 --> 00:08:41,288 Well, that got no attention at all, 167 00:08:41,312 --> 00:08:43,499 except from one or two journalists who said, 168 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:46,877 "Ha ha, silly little programmer is trying to scare the world. 169 00:08:46,901 --> 00:08:49,338 Isn't this funny? Ha ha ha." 170 00:08:49,362 --> 00:08:51,507 Computer World, at the time, was the magazine 171 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:54,260 for the IT industry, out to more than 172 00:08:54,284 --> 00:08:59,932 300,000 people in the US every single week. 173 00:08:59,956 --> 00:09:02,309 -Peter's "Doomsday 2000" article 174 00:09:02,333 --> 00:09:05,688 finally grabs the attention of the computer community. 175 00:09:05,712 --> 00:09:09,108 -Someone would ask, "Well, how bad could it be, Peter?" 176 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:13,320 And the honest answer of that is pretty bad. 177 00:09:13,344 --> 00:09:16,741 It could happen that planes fall out of the sky, 178 00:09:16,765 --> 00:09:18,451 elevators go into the ground. 179 00:09:18,475 --> 00:09:21,078 Pharmaceutical companies have expiry problems, 180 00:09:21,102 --> 00:09:24,623 inventory control problems. 181 00:09:24,647 --> 00:09:26,292 ATM machines. 182 00:09:26,316 --> 00:09:29,128 All computer systems, especially financial systems. 183 00:09:29,152 --> 00:09:33,215 Wherever you have a computer controlling something, 184 00:09:33,239 --> 00:09:35,176 there was a possibility 185 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,304 the computer wouldn't be able to do its job. 186 00:09:38,328 --> 00:09:40,973 -It means every bank, institution, corporation, 187 00:09:40,997 --> 00:09:42,391 and government in the world 188 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:44,852 could suffer massive operational failures 189 00:09:44,876 --> 00:09:47,188 at the turn of the century. 190 00:09:47,212 --> 00:09:49,482 But while some insiders are listening, 191 00:09:49,506 --> 00:09:52,067 convincing organizations to take action 192 00:09:52,091 --> 00:09:55,654 against the millennium bug is nearly impossible. 193 00:09:55,678 --> 00:10:02,161 -In the early 1990s, people at the top really didn't understand 194 00:10:02,185 --> 00:10:06,665 how much they depended upon their computer systems. 195 00:10:06,689 --> 00:10:09,251 And then along come people like myself. 196 00:10:09,275 --> 00:10:13,756 And we have to have this fixed by the year 2000. 197 00:10:13,780 --> 00:10:18,469 And, oh, by the way, it's going to cost a truckload of money. 198 00:10:18,493 --> 00:10:21,555 They're going to be very, very reluctant to believe you. 199 00:10:21,579 --> 00:10:25,267 -But Peter's underlying message of impending doom and gloom 200 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:27,353 does find a receptive audience 201 00:10:27,377 --> 00:10:30,189 in America's rising right wing militia groups, 202 00:10:30,213 --> 00:10:32,107 who increasingly believe they're at war 203 00:10:32,131 --> 00:10:34,610 with the government over their freedoms. 204 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:37,112 {\an8}♪♪ 205 00:10:37,136 --> 00:10:40,658 Eight months after the standoff with Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, 206 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:44,912 a compound outside Waco, Texas, explodes with bloodshed, 207 00:10:44,936 --> 00:10:47,998 igniting even more anti-government sentiment. 208 00:10:48,022 --> 00:10:50,501 -The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms 209 00:10:50,525 --> 00:10:54,672 launched a raid on the compound 210 00:10:54,696 --> 00:10:58,926 of a small religious sect called the Branch Davidians, 211 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:03,013 who have a sort of an apocalyptic mindset. 212 00:11:03,037 --> 00:11:06,350 The ATF had information that they had illegal weapons, 213 00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:08,477 which they did. 214 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:10,938 [ Gunfire ] 215 00:11:10,962 --> 00:11:13,274 - Get out of here! - Alright, calm down. 216 00:11:13,298 --> 00:11:14,608 Let me tell you what they're doing. 217 00:11:14,632 --> 00:11:16,318 Ceasefire. They're ceasefiring. 218 00:11:16,342 --> 00:11:20,656 They want to move their injured troops out of there. 219 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,157 -Four agents are killed. 220 00:11:22,181 --> 00:11:23,826 A number of Davidians are killed or wounded. 221 00:11:23,850 --> 00:11:29,540 This precipitates a 51-day standoff. 222 00:11:29,564 --> 00:11:32,001 {\an8}I'm Mark Pitcavage, and I'm a senior research fellow 223 00:11:32,025 --> 00:11:35,838 {\an8}with the Anti-Defamation League Center on Extremism. 224 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:37,590 [ Police radio chatter ] 225 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:39,675 [ Clattering ] 226 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:41,760 The FBI comes in and takes over, 227 00:11:41,784 --> 00:11:45,431 and they basically try to force an end to the standoff, 228 00:11:45,455 --> 00:11:47,391 which goes horribly awry. 229 00:11:47,415 --> 00:11:51,187 [ Sirens wailing ] 230 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:55,774 The Davidians start setting fires on the compound. 231 00:11:55,798 --> 00:11:58,861 Large numbers of them are burned to death. 232 00:11:58,885 --> 00:12:01,155 -Along with their leader, David Koresh, 233 00:12:01,179 --> 00:12:04,909 76 Branch Davidians die in the siege. 234 00:12:04,933 --> 00:12:07,828 -America was shocked. Both the ATF and the FBI 235 00:12:07,852 --> 00:12:10,748 come under considerable criticism, 236 00:12:10,772 --> 00:12:15,127 but especially, it agitated the far right. 237 00:12:15,151 --> 00:12:19,215 In Ruby Ridge, Idaho, in 1992, and Waco, Texas in 1993, 238 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:23,302 federal agents killed multiple people, including children. 239 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:25,304 {\an8}♪♪ 240 00:12:25,328 --> 00:12:29,099 Both those incidents really riled up the extreme right, 241 00:12:29,123 --> 00:12:31,852 and in fact, helped generate a whole new extremist movement 242 00:12:31,876 --> 00:12:34,063 in the United States, the militia movement. 243 00:12:34,087 --> 00:12:36,899 -And soon, followers of America's militia movement 244 00:12:36,923 --> 00:12:39,151 will commit previously-unthinkable acts 245 00:12:39,175 --> 00:12:41,362 to further their anti-government agenda. 246 00:12:41,386 --> 00:12:44,573 -That was a big wake up call to people in the United States. 247 00:12:44,597 --> 00:12:47,934 [ Indistinct shouting ] 248 00:12:52,188 --> 00:12:53,499 -In the mid-'90s, Peter de Jager 249 00:12:53,523 --> 00:12:54,833 and a group of computer programmers 250 00:12:54,857 --> 00:12:56,585 are attempting and failing 251 00:12:56,609 --> 00:13:00,130 to save the world's computers from the Millennium Bug. 252 00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:01,924 -As I continued to beat the drum, 253 00:13:01,948 --> 00:13:06,887 {\an8}I became known as the Paul Revere of Y2K 254 00:13:06,911 --> 00:13:10,224 {\an8}or the doomsayer or the fear monger, 255 00:13:10,248 --> 00:13:12,101 {\an8}or however you want to phrase it. 256 00:13:12,125 --> 00:13:13,519 I was that guy. 257 00:13:13,543 --> 00:13:15,938 That was difficult and that was frustrating. 258 00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:18,482 While Peter and others struggle to be heard, 259 00:13:18,506 --> 00:13:19,984 another, more sinister group 260 00:13:20,008 --> 00:13:22,361 with their own end of the world concerns 261 00:13:22,385 --> 00:13:25,948 is making its mark, sparked by anti-government standoffs 262 00:13:25,972 --> 00:13:28,534 at both Ruby Ridge and Waco. 263 00:13:28,558 --> 00:13:31,537 America's militia movement is expanding. 264 00:13:31,561 --> 00:13:34,373 {\an8}-The first militia group emerges beginning 265 00:13:34,397 --> 00:13:36,959 {\an8}in '94 with the Militia of Montana, 266 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:40,421 {\an8}and numerous other groups start popping up 267 00:13:40,445 --> 00:13:44,633 {\an8}all around the country within the next few months. 268 00:13:44,657 --> 00:13:47,886 The militia movement believed that the rest of the world 269 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:51,515 was essentially controlled by a global, tyrannical, 270 00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:55,269 socialist One World government. 271 00:13:55,293 --> 00:13:58,355 -They called it the New World Order. 272 00:13:58,379 --> 00:14:00,649 -They believe our own government 273 00:14:00,673 --> 00:14:03,527 was actually collaborating with the New World Order 274 00:14:03,551 --> 00:14:06,363 to slowly strip us of our rights and freedoms, 275 00:14:06,387 --> 00:14:09,867 starting with our right to keep and bear arms. 276 00:14:09,891 --> 00:14:12,161 Because once we're rendered defenseless, 277 00:14:12,185 --> 00:14:13,662 we too will be absorbed 278 00:14:13,686 --> 00:14:16,457 essentially as slaves into the New World Order, 279 00:14:16,481 --> 00:14:19,752 and that is what Americans have to fight against. 280 00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:22,504 -The militia movement, Spear of a New World Order, 281 00:14:22,528 --> 00:14:27,092 becomes a rallying cry for many right wing Americans. 282 00:14:27,116 --> 00:14:31,180 -God bless America and death to the New World Order! 283 00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:33,807 [ Cheers and applause ] 284 00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:36,226 -Their distrust is fueled by Bill Clinton, 285 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:40,564 who signs the federal assault weapons ban into law in 1994, 286 00:14:40,588 --> 00:14:44,443 providing more ammunition for the militia movement's rage. 287 00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:47,321 -The people of the United States must keep their arms. 288 00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:49,656 It's the only way to stop tyranny. 289 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,743 -It grew remarkably rapidly and spread across the whole country, 290 00:14:52,767 --> 00:14:56,121 and it brought in a bunch of new blood to the far right... 291 00:14:56,145 --> 00:14:58,374 A bunch of newly radicalized people. 292 00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:02,419 {\an8}-It felt like the Lord is saying "This is the army of the Lord 293 00:15:02,443 --> 00:15:05,506 {\an8}in the United States for this moment." 294 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:08,217 -The members see themselves as patriots. 295 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:11,553 -Like the American revolutionaries in the 1770s, 296 00:15:11,577 --> 00:15:14,431 who took up arms against the tyrannical British, 297 00:15:14,455 --> 00:15:16,433 modern Americans would have to take up arms 298 00:15:16,457 --> 00:15:21,605 against their own government and against the New World Order. 299 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:24,024 -As PCs connect people in cyberspace, 300 00:15:24,048 --> 00:15:27,069 militia organizers use online bulletin board systems 301 00:15:27,093 --> 00:15:29,947 and chat rooms to recruit new members. 302 00:15:29,971 --> 00:15:31,698 [ Dial-up modems screeching ] 303 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:33,742 {\an8}♪♪ 304 00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:36,078 Meanwhile, Canadian Peter de Jager, 305 00:15:36,102 --> 00:15:38,914 working out of his basement in Brampton, Ontario, 306 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:42,501 uses the same resources to warn the world about a problem. 307 00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:44,920 It's about to earn its catchy name. 308 00:15:44,944 --> 00:15:47,548 {\an8}♪♪ 309 00:15:47,572 --> 00:15:52,511 {\an8}-The term Y2K came out of a shorthand used in a chat room. 310 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:54,638 {\an8}♪♪ 311 00:15:54,662 --> 00:15:57,433 Y2K sort of has this ring to it of, 312 00:15:57,457 --> 00:16:00,435 you know... it's like R2D2, and it kind of added, I think, 313 00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:04,481 to sort of the ominous or catchy ring, if nothing else. 314 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:06,191 {\an8}♪♪ 315 00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:08,527 -Despite its easy-to-remember name, 316 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:10,737 convincing folks to spend time and money 317 00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:13,824 to fix Y2K is a hard sell. 318 00:16:13,848 --> 00:16:17,661 -People are reluctant to listen to bad news. 319 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:20,038 They go, "Is it working now?" "Yes." 320 00:16:20,062 --> 00:16:21,832 "Is it fine?" "Yes." 321 00:16:21,856 --> 00:16:23,417 "Then don't waste any money on that. 322 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:25,919 We have other stuff to do." 323 00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:30,215 -While Peter agonizes over the government doing too little, 324 00:16:30,239 --> 00:16:33,427 the '90s militia movement continues to sign up members 325 00:16:33,451 --> 00:16:37,639 by arguing the government is doing too much. 326 00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,099 The movement grows to an estimated 327 00:16:39,123 --> 00:16:43,020 60,000 members nationwide. 328 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:45,564 Aided by anti-government propaganda 329 00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:47,149 passed around at gun shows, 330 00:16:47,173 --> 00:16:51,028 including the infamous videotape "Waco, The Big Lie." 331 00:16:51,052 --> 00:16:53,280 Produced by attorney Linda Thompson, 332 00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:56,700 the documentary helped sow the seeds of a catastrophe 333 00:16:56,724 --> 00:16:59,328 in the mind of a young Gulf War veteran. 334 00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:01,580 - On property they called the Mt. Carmel Center. 335 00:17:01,604 --> 00:17:05,417 -Timothy McVeigh was an anti-government extremist, 336 00:17:05,441 --> 00:17:09,755 but what triggered him was the standoff at Waco. 337 00:17:09,779 --> 00:17:11,548 He actually drove his pickup truck 338 00:17:11,572 --> 00:17:13,926 to the site of the standoff 339 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:17,054 to give away or sell extremist bumper stickers 340 00:17:17,078 --> 00:17:19,514 and other paraphernalia. 341 00:17:19,538 --> 00:17:21,475 And after the end of the standoff, 342 00:17:21,499 --> 00:17:24,353 he obsesses over Waco conspiracy theories, 343 00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:27,648 and in particular, the conspiracy videotape 344 00:17:27,672 --> 00:17:29,691 on Waco by Linda Thompson, 345 00:17:29,715 --> 00:17:31,944 who became one of the pioneers of the militia movement. 346 00:17:31,968 --> 00:17:33,904 - The ATF... - Thompson claims 347 00:17:33,928 --> 00:17:35,948 in "The Big Lie" that the Branch Davidians 348 00:17:35,972 --> 00:17:38,951 didn't start the fire that killed 76 people. 349 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:42,454 It was a false flag operation, where government agents 350 00:17:42,478 --> 00:17:45,123 framed the members of the apocalyptic cult. 351 00:17:45,147 --> 00:17:46,833 -Now they're finishing off the job right now. 352 00:17:46,857 --> 00:17:48,710 They're destroying the crime scene. 353 00:17:48,734 --> 00:17:51,380 America, this is the biggest lie that's ever been put 354 00:17:51,404 --> 00:17:53,799 before the American public ever. 355 00:17:53,823 --> 00:17:57,219 -And Timothy McVeigh watched it over and over again 356 00:17:57,243 --> 00:18:00,180 and, you know, became outraged 357 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:02,808 at the federal government, and, you know, 358 00:18:02,832 --> 00:18:04,851 eventually got the idea that he wanted to attack. 359 00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:07,562 -And on the second anniversary of what extremists call 360 00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:09,231 the Waco Massacre... 361 00:18:09,255 --> 00:18:12,109 -Here, tanks methodically push what remains of the house 362 00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:14,611 and evidence into the fire. 363 00:18:14,635 --> 00:18:18,073 -Timothy McVeigh, along with Army buddy Terry Nichols, 364 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:20,742 execute their monstrous plan. 365 00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:23,578 -The Oklahoma City bombing, which happened on April 19th, 366 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:26,915 1995, was a huge fertilizer bomb in a truck. 367 00:18:26,939 --> 00:18:30,002 Tim McVeigh drives it to the Bureau Federal Building 368 00:18:30,026 --> 00:18:31,753 and sets it off. 369 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:34,881 [ Indistinct shouting ] 370 00:18:34,905 --> 00:18:39,594 {\an8}♪♪ 371 00:18:39,618 --> 00:18:41,054 It becomes the worst act 372 00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:42,973 of domestic terrorism in United States history 373 00:18:42,997 --> 00:18:46,268 and the second worst act of terrorism, period, 374 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:49,479 in our country's history, second only to the 9/11 attacks. 375 00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:53,025 -The bombing in Oklahoma City was an attack 376 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:58,947 on innocent children and defenseless citizens. 377 00:18:58,971 --> 00:19:03,660 -The Oklahoma City bombing kills 168 innocent people, 378 00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:06,038 including 19 children. 379 00:19:06,062 --> 00:19:09,791 -Oklahoma City was hard for us to process. 380 00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:11,793 You're looking at that at a young age 381 00:19:11,817 --> 00:19:15,714 and saying, "What would drive somebody to do that?" 382 00:19:15,738 --> 00:19:19,551 {\an8}♪♪ 383 00:19:19,575 --> 00:19:21,595 -It shocked the whole country 384 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:24,139 and the images of firefighters 385 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:27,184 cradling the bodies of bloody infants, 386 00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:29,353 you know, that they had taken out of the rubble 387 00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:32,564 had just a tremendous effect on everybody. 388 00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:35,692 -But not everyone responds in the same way. 389 00:19:35,716 --> 00:19:38,570 Despite the carnage being aired on live TV, 390 00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:41,156 right wing extremists believe McVeigh is a patsy 391 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:44,076 taking the fall in another big lie. 392 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,911 They credit the government with the attack 393 00:19:45,935 --> 00:19:48,914 and accuse the media of engineering a cover up... 394 00:19:48,938 --> 00:19:50,415 All of it to convince Americans 395 00:19:50,439 --> 00:19:54,044 to go along with the New World Order. 396 00:19:54,068 --> 00:19:57,464 -They killed 86 people in Waco. 397 00:19:57,488 --> 00:20:01,676 I don't see why they'd have a problem with killing 168 more. 398 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:03,845 -In the summer of 1995, just a couple of months 399 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:05,597 after the Oklahoma City bombing. 400 00:20:05,621 --> 00:20:09,559 I actually created a website about right wing extremism. 401 00:20:09,583 --> 00:20:13,814 And this was at a time when the World Wide Web was so tiny, 402 00:20:13,838 --> 00:20:16,692 that I literally could and did look at every mention 403 00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:18,944 of the word "militia" on the entire Internet. 404 00:20:18,968 --> 00:20:21,113 When these groups first started popping up 405 00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:24,574 and claiming to be descended from the original historical, 406 00:20:24,598 --> 00:20:27,744 legitimate militia, the historian in me was like, 407 00:20:27,768 --> 00:20:30,956 "What? That's totally bogus." 408 00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:32,874 When the U.S. Justice Department creates 409 00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:35,335 an anti-domestic terrorism program, 410 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,254 they hire Mark Pitcavage, 411 00:20:37,278 --> 00:20:40,132 who quickly identifies a new possible trigger 412 00:20:40,156 --> 00:20:43,051 for right wing extremist attacks... 413 00:20:43,075 --> 00:20:45,095 Y2K. 414 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,139 -For anti-government extremists 415 00:20:47,163 --> 00:20:49,641 who think that the United States government is collaborating 416 00:20:49,665 --> 00:20:51,601 with the New World Order to take over, 417 00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:53,603 Y2K is like a perfect scenario for that. 418 00:20:53,627 --> 00:20:55,522 There could be, you know, a significant collapse 419 00:20:55,546 --> 00:20:58,650 of society, and the government would use that as an excuse 420 00:20:58,674 --> 00:21:01,361 to do everything on its nefarious agenda. 421 00:21:01,385 --> 00:21:03,530 -Militia members look for any opportunity 422 00:21:03,554 --> 00:21:05,073 to spread their message, 423 00:21:05,097 --> 00:21:07,325 including a surprising appearance on "Donahue" 424 00:21:07,349 --> 00:21:09,494 before millions of Americans. 425 00:21:09,518 --> 00:21:12,164 -Do you think that the feds are coming, 426 00:21:12,188 --> 00:21:14,332 they're going to suspend the Constitution, 427 00:21:14,356 --> 00:21:16,251 they're going to take your guns away. 428 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:17,794 -The government comes for my gun, I'm simply going 429 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:19,171 to let them have it. - You'd pull the trigger 430 00:21:19,195 --> 00:21:20,672 on a federal agent coming up to your place? 431 00:21:20,696 --> 00:21:22,215 -I will. A man's home is his castle. 432 00:21:22,239 --> 00:21:24,342 If I had to die proving that, so be it. 433 00:21:24,366 --> 00:21:26,386 {\an8}♪♪ 434 00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,430 -Concern that confusion over Y2K 435 00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:31,349 will be the catalyst for more extremist violence, 436 00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:33,977 Congress calls a hearing to lay out the facts 437 00:21:34,001 --> 00:21:36,605 and invites the Paul Revere of Y2K, 438 00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,523 Peter de Jager. 439 00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:44,029 -I was a nobody... you know, Y2K person without portfolio. 440 00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:46,615 And then finally, governments were beginning to wake up, 441 00:21:46,639 --> 00:21:54,372 and I testified before the U.S.. I testified in Australia. 442 00:21:54,396 --> 00:21:59,377 I did some work with Tony Blair and them over in the U.K.. 443 00:21:59,401 --> 00:22:03,340 -As international governments wake up to the perils of Y2K, 444 00:22:03,364 --> 00:22:05,800 so do media outlets around the world. 445 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:08,136 -The government is not a little behind, 446 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,305 but way behind. - Tremendously behind. 447 00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:12,933 The wake-up call is now. 448 00:22:12,957 --> 00:22:15,101 -With pressure mounting on the U.S. government, 449 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:16,645 the need arises for someone 450 00:22:16,669 --> 00:22:19,648 to lead the bureaucratic charge for Y2K. 451 00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:21,358 The question is who. 452 00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:23,610 Having spent 20 years in the private sector 453 00:22:23,634 --> 00:22:25,570 and 25 in the public sector, 454 00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:30,575 I've, as they say, spent my life dealing with crises. 455 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:32,994 So one night, the president called. 456 00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:34,830 So we talked for about 10 or 15 minutes. 457 00:22:34,854 --> 00:22:36,498 Then the next night, the vice president, 458 00:22:36,522 --> 00:22:38,041 Al Gore, called me, and I said, "You know, 459 00:22:38,065 --> 00:22:39,668 if you get the pope to call me tomorrow night, 460 00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:42,504 I might take this job." 461 00:22:42,528 --> 00:22:44,506 {\an8}I'm John Koskinen. I was the chair 462 00:22:44,530 --> 00:22:47,467 {\an8}of the president's council on year 2000 conversion. 463 00:22:47,491 --> 00:22:49,010 I'm responsible for coordinating 464 00:22:49,034 --> 00:22:50,845 the federal government's role 465 00:22:50,869 --> 00:22:54,182 in ultimately 170 countries around the world. 466 00:22:54,206 --> 00:22:56,226 {\an8}♪♪ 467 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:57,852 So, needless to say, 468 00:22:57,876 --> 00:23:01,690 I signed up to take on the responsibility for Y2K. 469 00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,733 -But is it too little, too late? 470 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:06,027 With only two years until the year 2000, 471 00:23:06,051 --> 00:23:09,447 people fear Koskinen won't be able to avert disaster. 472 00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:13,368 We went from, "This is silly. This is nonsense." 473 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:16,288 To, "Oh, my God, we're not going to have enough time to fix it." 474 00:23:16,312 --> 00:23:19,982 [ Indistinct shouting ] 475 00:23:23,777 --> 00:23:25,046 -There he is. 476 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:26,298 -These things that you're talking about... 477 00:23:26,322 --> 00:23:27,549 You did them to Jerry.. 478 00:23:27,573 --> 00:23:28,800 -Jerry is very is very dangerous. 479 00:23:28,824 --> 00:23:30,844 -By 1998, even as Hollywood turns 480 00:23:30,868 --> 00:23:32,554 right wing conspiracy theories 481 00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:36,141 into a movie storyline, far right talk radio hosts 482 00:23:36,165 --> 00:23:39,352 are claiming Y2K is a legitimate government plot. 483 00:23:39,376 --> 00:23:41,438 -You're the children, and the government's 484 00:23:41,462 --> 00:23:44,399 your mommy and daddy. Big brother. 485 00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:46,359 Let me tell you something. 486 00:23:46,383 --> 00:23:48,236 Let me tell you something right now... 487 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:49,904 They're going to do this. 488 00:23:49,928 --> 00:23:52,574 {\an8}-Y2K has a very significant impact on the far right 489 00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:56,202 {\an8}in the United States in the late 1990s. 490 00:23:56,226 --> 00:24:00,123 {\an8}-You had so many people who truly believed 491 00:24:00,147 --> 00:24:02,167 {\an8}that these events were connected 492 00:24:02,191 --> 00:24:05,128 {\an8}and part of something larger and more nefarious. 493 00:24:05,152 --> 00:24:08,298 I remember in the '90s, driving around and seeing, 494 00:24:08,322 --> 00:24:09,966 you know, the bumper stickers on the truck, 495 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:13,303 "I love my country, but I fear my government." 496 00:24:13,327 --> 00:24:14,804 -But behind the scenes, 497 00:24:14,828 --> 00:24:16,848 despite the potentially huge cost of failure 498 00:24:16,872 --> 00:24:19,100 and his exceptionally late start, 499 00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:22,354 John Koskinen's work as the new man in charge of Y2K 500 00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:25,106 is much more mundane than nefarious. 501 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:27,525 -The president gave me the job and an office and said, 502 00:24:27,549 --> 00:24:30,403 "Don't let the world stop." 503 00:24:30,427 --> 00:24:33,198 So I show up in the old executive office building 504 00:24:33,222 --> 00:24:35,533 and I flip on the light switch. 505 00:24:35,557 --> 00:24:39,204 {\an8}And it occurred to me what happens on January 1st, 2000 506 00:24:39,228 --> 00:24:43,124 {\an8}if you flip the switch and there's no power. 507 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:46,503 Stoplights don't work. Phones don't work. 508 00:24:46,527 --> 00:24:49,089 You know, criminals can run wild. 509 00:24:49,113 --> 00:24:51,549 So the art form was to get everybody 510 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:55,261 who had a system worried enough to pay attention to it 511 00:24:55,285 --> 00:25:00,058 without panicking everybody who depended on those systems. 512 00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:01,643 -Ultimately, Koskinen has to get 513 00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:03,436 tens of thousands of organizations 514 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:06,564 to fix their systems by changing two-digit dates 515 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:11,778 to four-digit dates in millions of lines of computer code. 516 00:25:11,802 --> 00:25:15,156 -Social Security had 52 million lines of code. 517 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,825 So there were thoughtful people who thought, 518 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:20,704 "You're never going to get it done. It's impossible." 519 00:25:20,728 --> 00:25:22,914 -With the Y2K clock counting down, 520 00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:25,208 Peter de Jager steps up his speaking engagements 521 00:25:25,232 --> 00:25:28,128 to help spread the word. 522 00:25:28,152 --> 00:25:29,838 {\an8}-The vibe was John the Baptist. 523 00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:32,799 {\an8}A cartoonist for one of the newspapers over in the UK, 524 00:25:32,823 --> 00:25:35,135 {\an8}drew a caricature of me in robes, 525 00:25:35,159 --> 00:25:36,928 {\an8}you know, ringing a bell type of thing. 526 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:40,181 We certainly played into that. 527 00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:42,934 My ties always had clocks on them. 528 00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:45,687 {\an8}♪♪ 529 00:25:45,711 --> 00:25:47,355 -When he's not on the road, 530 00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:51,067 Peter's focused on his burgeoning website traffic. 531 00:25:51,091 --> 00:25:54,070 -We had an online mailing list, and at one point, 532 00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:58,324 we had 80,000 subscribers. 533 00:25:58,348 --> 00:26:02,495 We used to get 4-500 emails to the mail list every single day. 534 00:26:02,519 --> 00:26:05,498 Well, this was me working out of my office in the basement, 535 00:26:05,522 --> 00:26:10,587 organizing this global communications network. 536 00:26:10,611 --> 00:26:13,173 {\an8}♪♪ 537 00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:15,425 -Peter also teams up with John Koskinen 538 00:26:15,449 --> 00:26:17,802 to coordinate their efforts. 539 00:26:17,826 --> 00:26:20,847 -One of my strategies was to talk to people 540 00:26:20,871 --> 00:26:22,724 to see what they knew. 541 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,768 Peter de Jager was, to his great credit, 542 00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:29,105 one of the early warners about the risk of Y2K. 543 00:26:29,129 --> 00:26:34,027 -We would keep in regular communications, which was key. 544 00:26:34,051 --> 00:26:37,655 John Koskinen approached it from an organizational issue. 545 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,992 We started at programmer level and raised the threat 546 00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:44,078 of lawyers getting involved so that directors 547 00:26:44,102 --> 00:26:48,166 would open up the purse strings and get this done. 548 00:26:48,190 --> 00:26:50,960 -But the downside to successful Y2K messaging 549 00:26:50,984 --> 00:26:53,505 is how easily those messages get distorted 550 00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:56,591 in the new '90s Internet age. 551 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,928 {\an8}-When you create enough noise and the media gets on... 552 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:01,763 {\an8}-And more and more experts are warning 553 00:27:01,787 --> 00:27:04,766 {\an8}that the year 2000 could bring a date with disaster. 554 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:08,520 Then people who know nothing about the problem, 555 00:27:08,544 --> 00:27:12,273 all they hear is this fear mongering that's going on... 556 00:27:12,297 --> 00:27:14,734 And there was a tremendous amount of it. 557 00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:18,029 -And there won't be any elections in the year 2000. 558 00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:20,740 There will be a declaration of martial law. 559 00:27:20,764 --> 00:27:23,660 You must teach your children 560 00:27:23,684 --> 00:27:26,371 to use a weapon and use it well. 561 00:27:26,395 --> 00:27:29,124 -Many people on the far right became convinced that Y2K 562 00:27:29,148 --> 00:27:32,210 could cause the collapse of society. 563 00:27:32,234 --> 00:27:34,212 So, for example, for white supremacists, 564 00:27:34,236 --> 00:27:37,715 they are concerned about society collapsing. 565 00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:40,134 [ Sirens wailing ] 566 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:42,971 And all the non-whites coming out of the cities 567 00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:44,389 into the countryside, 568 00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:46,474 and that this could start a race war. 569 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,060 -The far right's fear of a collapse of society 570 00:27:49,084 --> 00:27:52,272 helps revive survivalism across America. 571 00:27:52,296 --> 00:27:55,984 -We have about a year's supply of food here for Y2K. 572 00:27:56,008 --> 00:27:58,319 -You have to stockpile food, weapons, 573 00:27:58,343 --> 00:28:00,029 survival goods, and gear. 574 00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:04,158 -If it's a case of my family or some other one, 575 00:28:04,182 --> 00:28:08,162 then I'm going to opt for protecting my family. 576 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:10,707 -And as you get closer to the end of the decade, 577 00:28:10,731 --> 00:28:13,334 you have a lot of survival expos more explicitly, 578 00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:18,131 call themselves, like, Y2K survival expos. 579 00:28:18,155 --> 00:28:20,592 -As these events flourish, they give militia groups 580 00:28:20,616 --> 00:28:22,927 the opportunity to meet in the real world 581 00:28:22,951 --> 00:28:27,348 and exchange their incendiary government beliefs. 582 00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:29,058 -It becomes one of the core beliefs 583 00:28:29,082 --> 00:28:31,352 of the militia movement of the 1990s, 584 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,439 that there are actually 600-800 concentration camps 585 00:28:34,463 --> 00:28:37,358 already built in the United States, fully manned, 586 00:28:37,382 --> 00:28:42,280 but empty, but ready for people to be rounded up when Y2K occurs 587 00:28:42,304 --> 00:28:44,324 and the government steps in 588 00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:48,119 to do all of its nefarious things. 589 00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:51,456 And so they go to look for evidence of these camps, 590 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,082 get over fences and take photographs 591 00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:55,668 of federal facilities that they think have been turned 592 00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:58,046 into a concentration camp or are scheduled to be turned 593 00:28:58,070 --> 00:29:00,381 into a concentration camp. 594 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,508 -The militia movement's suspicion triggers 595 00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:04,427 a deadly plan in Texas. 596 00:29:04,451 --> 00:29:06,804 -A militia cell with members from a variety 597 00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:10,642 of different states plotted to attack U.S. military bases 598 00:29:10,666 --> 00:29:12,852 that they thought were housing "New World Order" 599 00:29:12,876 --> 00:29:16,648 foreign soldiers, and settled upon Fort Hood in Texas. 600 00:29:16,672 --> 00:29:19,817 They wanted to attack on the 4th of July. 601 00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:21,778 And if it weren't for some undercover officers 602 00:29:21,802 --> 00:29:24,197 on the Missouri State Highway Patrol, 603 00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:25,990 they might have been successful. 604 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:29,702 -Instead, the FBI arrests Kansas militia leader Bradley Glover 605 00:29:29,726 --> 00:29:32,997 and accomplice Michael Dorsett in a Texas campground 606 00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:36,793 with a lethal cache of weapons. 607 00:29:36,817 --> 00:29:41,422 In late '90s America, with the specter of Y2K looming, 608 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:45,051 extremist threats of all kinds are increasing. 609 00:29:45,075 --> 00:29:49,222 1999 arrives with a cacophony of doomsday predictions 610 00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:52,308 about the end times. 611 00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:56,813 -The doomsday preppers started to get involved. 612 00:29:56,837 --> 00:29:59,691 They were basically saying, "We're all going to die." 613 00:29:59,715 --> 00:30:02,384 {\an8}♪♪ 614 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:07,907 -Our island in space. Our civilization. 615 00:30:07,931 --> 00:30:10,702 -As the one-year countdown to the millennium begins, 616 00:30:10,726 --> 00:30:14,247 Leonard Nimoy goes where no one has gone before, 617 00:30:14,271 --> 00:30:17,959 delivering the Y2K Family Survival Guide. 618 00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:21,254 -How could the omission of two simple digits 619 00:30:21,278 --> 00:30:24,632 affect the destiny of all humankind? 620 00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:27,468 -The New Year ushers in a heightened level of anxiety 621 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,345 from the spiritual realm. 622 00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:35,101 -I believe that Y2K may be God's instrument to shake this nation, 623 00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,353 humble this nation, start revival 624 00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:39,272 that spreads the face of the earth 625 00:30:39,296 --> 00:30:41,190 before the rapture of the church. 626 00:30:41,214 --> 00:30:44,027 {\an8}-Some fringe religious groups become convinced 627 00:30:44,051 --> 00:30:46,946 {\an8}that the end of the world is near 628 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:50,616 {\an8}or some other cataclysmic event is coming soon. 629 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,120 -One such apocalyptic cult is Colorado's Concerned Christians, 630 00:30:54,144 --> 00:30:55,788 led by Monte Kim Miller, 631 00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:58,458 a former pharmaceutical executive. 632 00:30:58,482 --> 00:31:01,002 America is Satan's kingdom, counterfeiting 633 00:31:01,026 --> 00:31:04,213 the true earthly kingdom of God to come from Israel. 634 00:31:04,237 --> 00:31:05,798 -Miller believes the U.S. president 635 00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,217 and the Antichrist are one and the same, 636 00:31:08,241 --> 00:31:11,637 and that Y2K will bring the second coming of Christ. 637 00:31:11,661 --> 00:31:13,806 {\an8}♪♪ 638 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,808 He even moves his Concerned Christians 639 00:31:15,832 --> 00:31:18,227 to Jerusalem to prepare for it. 640 00:31:18,251 --> 00:31:20,605 -In what form did God speak to you about this? 641 00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:22,440 -He speaks through my mouth. 642 00:31:22,464 --> 00:31:25,193 {\an8}♪♪ 643 00:31:25,217 --> 00:31:28,321 -Just months later, on January 3rd, 1999, 644 00:31:28,345 --> 00:31:30,531 police in Israel arrest and deport Miller 645 00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:32,742 and 13 other cult members. 646 00:31:32,766 --> 00:31:35,661 -Police suspect they plan to carry out violent acts 647 00:31:35,685 --> 00:31:39,082 to bring about an apocalypse in the year 2000. 648 00:31:39,106 --> 00:31:43,544 -While America's doomsday cults are stirring up trouble abroad, 649 00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:48,174 on U.S. soil, survivalism is on the rise. 650 00:31:48,198 --> 00:31:49,801 -The number of patriots for profit, 651 00:31:49,825 --> 00:31:51,636 so to speak, really were huge... 652 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:53,179 People trying to make a buck 653 00:31:53,203 --> 00:31:55,807 by selling you a year's supply of dried beans, 654 00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:59,644 by selling you 40,000 rounds of ammunition. 655 00:31:59,668 --> 00:32:02,438 They would have like these big, underground, 656 00:32:02,462 --> 00:32:04,273 like, plastic bomb shelters... 657 00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:05,858 Like, they looked like septic tanks, 658 00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:07,485 except you're supposed to live in them. 659 00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:09,237 You know, bury it underground, fill it full 660 00:32:09,261 --> 00:32:10,613 of supplies and stuff. 661 00:32:10,637 --> 00:32:14,200 "And we got a sale this Sunday!" You know? 662 00:32:14,224 --> 00:32:16,119 "Conveniently just for you." 663 00:32:16,143 --> 00:32:19,205 {\an8}-Call now and order your ultimate Y2K survival kit. 664 00:32:19,229 --> 00:32:23,292 {\an8}-Y2K survivalist goods are in high demand across America. 665 00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:26,879 John Koskinen and Peter de Jager are forced to do damage control 666 00:32:26,903 --> 00:32:28,756 to stave off the public panic 667 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:32,009 that could cause desperate runs on the nation's supply chain. 668 00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:34,637 -Are you really confident that you were all ready? 669 00:32:34,661 --> 00:32:36,430 -We're confident that the basic infrastructure 670 00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:38,474 of the United States is going to function effectively. 671 00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:41,978 {\an8}-I did more than 2000 media interviews. 672 00:32:42,002 --> 00:32:44,021 -Everywhere where there's a computer program, 673 00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:45,481 you are affected. 674 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:48,234 -The noise level got very, very high. 675 00:32:48,258 --> 00:32:50,987 I remember one conference where the speaker in front of me 676 00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:52,905 was actually telling the audience 677 00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:57,034 that nuclear weapons were going to launch... 678 00:32:57,058 --> 00:33:01,080 That there is a nuclear holocaust going to happen. 679 00:33:01,104 --> 00:33:03,875 I got up and said, "The speaker you just heard... 680 00:33:03,899 --> 00:33:06,752 That's absolute B.S.. It's nonsense." 681 00:33:06,776 --> 00:33:08,421 [ Crowd cheering ] 682 00:33:08,445 --> 00:33:10,923 -But end-of-the-world paranoia is reaching a fever pitch 683 00:33:10,947 --> 00:33:12,800 in mainstream media. 684 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,887 -100 day countdown to Y2K begins. 685 00:33:15,911 --> 00:33:18,097 Gentlemen, caulk your bunkers. 686 00:33:18,121 --> 00:33:20,433 [ Explosion ] 687 00:33:20,457 --> 00:33:22,518 {\an8}♪♪ 688 00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:24,395 -To prevent an international crisis, 689 00:33:24,419 --> 00:33:28,858 Koskinen organizes an emergency meeting of the United Nations. 690 00:33:28,882 --> 00:33:32,403 {\an8}-We had 170 countries gathered at the United Nations, 691 00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:34,155 {\an8}which was the largest meeting in history, 692 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:37,533 {\an8}other than the General Assembly meeting at the U.N.. 693 00:33:37,557 --> 00:33:39,493 -But despite Koskinen's best efforts, 694 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:42,079 anxiety and doom continue to spread. 695 00:33:42,103 --> 00:33:43,873 -People thought that this was going to be 696 00:33:43,897 --> 00:33:46,125 a disaster for everybody. 697 00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:48,669 - What if they're right? - My gosh. 698 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,881 -The survival of millions hangs in the balance. 699 00:33:51,905 --> 00:33:55,468 "Y2K: The Movie." 700 00:33:55,492 --> 00:33:58,429 -In November of '99, an internal FBI report 701 00:33:58,453 --> 00:34:01,307 detailing the threats of Y2K domestic terrorism 702 00:34:01,331 --> 00:34:02,934 is leaked to the public. 703 00:34:02,958 --> 00:34:05,102 -We did have a concern of terrorist groups 704 00:34:05,126 --> 00:34:07,980 would try to take advantage of any chaos that happened, 705 00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:11,234 because you're going to have huge crowds. 706 00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:17,573 One of my concerns also was people hacking into systems. 707 00:34:17,597 --> 00:34:19,492 -Towards the end of 1999, 708 00:34:19,516 --> 00:34:22,495 there's inside information about the hackers of the world 709 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:28,584 putting together a Y2K virus that will strike at midnight. 710 00:34:28,608 --> 00:34:30,670 -There are also threats to disrupt or destroy 711 00:34:30,694 --> 00:34:33,381 some of the nation's critical infrastructure. 712 00:34:33,405 --> 00:34:35,383 In the days leading up to the millennium, 713 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:37,843 the Feds move against the far right extremists 714 00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:40,888 they consider most dangerous. 715 00:34:40,912 --> 00:34:43,641 -There were members of a militia cell in California 716 00:34:43,665 --> 00:34:47,895 arrested, plotting to blow up energy-related facilities, 717 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:50,439 and a militia leader in Florida 718 00:34:50,463 --> 00:34:53,693 who were plotting to attack a nuclear power plant. 719 00:34:53,717 --> 00:34:56,862 -Border police in Washington state also catch a fugitive, 720 00:34:56,886 --> 00:34:59,615 Ahmed Ressam, sneaking in from Canada 721 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,910 with £130 of explosives in his car. 722 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:06,289 His plan? To detonate a suitcase bomb at LAX 723 00:35:06,313 --> 00:35:08,374 on New Year's Day 2000. 724 00:35:08,398 --> 00:35:11,669 Despite his arrest, U.S. authorities are forced to wonder 725 00:35:11,693 --> 00:35:14,714 how many more terrorists are still out there. 726 00:35:14,738 --> 00:35:17,008 {\an8}♪♪ 727 00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:20,803 The last day of 1999 finally arrives. 728 00:35:20,827 --> 00:35:22,805 {\an8}♪♪ 729 00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:25,141 At 8 a.m. in Washington DC., 730 00:35:25,165 --> 00:35:27,059 Auckland, New Zealand will be the first city 731 00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:28,894 to meet the year 2000. 732 00:35:28,918 --> 00:35:30,938 John Koskinen is anxiously watching 733 00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:35,901 from the Y2K command post two blocks from the White House. 734 00:35:35,925 --> 00:35:37,737 -We've got a control center, and then we have 735 00:35:37,761 --> 00:35:39,363 a couple of hundred workstations. 736 00:35:39,387 --> 00:35:40,656 We got Mexico and Canada. 737 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,074 We've got all the federal agencies, 738 00:35:42,098 --> 00:35:43,492 some industry groups. 739 00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:46,329 -7... 6... 5... 740 00:35:46,353 --> 00:35:49,457 4... 3... 2... 741 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:50,750 1! 742 00:35:50,774 --> 00:35:52,835 [ Fireworks explode, crowd cheers ] 743 00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:56,005 -And so as we started monitoring New Zealand, 744 00:35:56,029 --> 00:35:57,548 we're watching the world turn, 745 00:35:57,572 --> 00:36:00,092 and you can see these celebrations, 746 00:36:00,116 --> 00:36:03,554 and nobody is, you know, dying or nothing's blowing up. 747 00:36:03,578 --> 00:36:07,892 -While we are encouraged by the positive reports thus far, 748 00:36:07,916 --> 00:36:09,435 we should all remember 749 00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:12,855 that we have many miles to go before we sleep. 750 00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,149 -With half the world still in 1999, 751 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,109 Koskinen has devised a special way 752 00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:21,614 to demonstrate his confidence in America's Y2K preparations. 753 00:36:21,638 --> 00:36:23,574 {\an8}♪♪ 754 00:36:23,598 --> 00:36:24,867 -People were saying, "Hey, you know, 755 00:36:24,891 --> 00:36:26,994 planes are going to drop out of the sky." 756 00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:30,081 -So at 6:30 p.m., Koskinen boards a commuter flight 757 00:36:30,105 --> 00:36:33,334 from Washington to New York, so he can be in the air 758 00:36:33,358 --> 00:36:35,169 for London's New Year's celebration 759 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:37,254 at midnight Greenwich Mean Time. 760 00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:40,299 -I needed to demonstrate, if we were confident at 7:00, 761 00:36:40,323 --> 00:36:42,134 we were going to be okay. 762 00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:50,158 {\an8}♪♪ 763 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:52,228 While Mark Pitcavage is attending 764 00:36:52,252 --> 00:36:54,855 a New Year's House party, 765 00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:57,733 he's also on standby for ABC News 766 00:36:57,757 --> 00:37:02,696 so he can respond in case there's a terrorist attack. 767 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:03,989 -And I said, "You know, look, 768 00:37:04,013 --> 00:37:05,991 if all the computers do collapse, 769 00:37:06,015 --> 00:37:08,577 I'm not sure you're really going to be able to air your program. 770 00:37:08,601 --> 00:37:11,956 But if something happens and extremists do something, 771 00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:13,582 I'm going to be at a friend's house 772 00:37:13,606 --> 00:37:18,003 celebrating New Year's Eve. Here's their number." 773 00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:20,089 -So I'm on the plane. Virtually and nobody's flying... 774 00:37:20,113 --> 00:37:23,843 13 people, and four or five of whom are reporters. 775 00:37:23,867 --> 00:37:26,137 And a young reporter from The New York Times 776 00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:28,806 says, "The guy in the tux in the first row 777 00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:30,975 is now very nervous because he didn't realize 778 00:37:30,999 --> 00:37:37,148 he was flying to New York during the transition period of Y2K." 779 00:37:37,172 --> 00:37:40,776 -When the new millennium arrives in London without incident, 780 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,155 it marks another Y2K milestone, 781 00:37:44,179 --> 00:37:47,616 but America still awaits its arrival. 782 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,285 Not even the hosts of late night 783 00:37:49,309 --> 00:37:51,704 are joking about the potential dangers. 784 00:37:51,728 --> 00:37:53,622 -This terrorism thing is kind of frightening. 785 00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:55,708 - And no one knows. - Right. 786 00:37:55,732 --> 00:37:58,210 -Well, one of them is. 787 00:37:58,234 --> 00:38:02,506 -Top ten effects of Y2K, here we go. 788 00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:04,216 Number 10... 789 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,552 -Stuff's gonna 'splode. 790 00:38:06,576 --> 00:38:09,221 {\an8}♪♪ 791 00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:12,767 -With the millennium just seconds away, the countdown 792 00:38:12,791 --> 00:38:14,560 in Times Square begins. 793 00:38:14,584 --> 00:38:16,020 -Are you ready? 794 00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:17,396 -Of course, everybody's counting off. 795 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:18,981 You know, it's not often you get to count... 796 00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:20,983 Count down to a new millennium, right? 797 00:38:21,007 --> 00:38:25,112 -In 10, 9, 8, 7... 798 00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:27,698 {\an8}-There were all of these predictions of doom and gloom. 799 00:38:27,722 --> 00:38:31,827 {\an8}-5, 4, 3, 2, 1... 800 00:38:31,851 --> 00:38:33,078 -And what happened? 801 00:38:33,102 --> 00:38:36,105 -Happy 2000! 802 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:41,921 -What a sight in New York City... 803 00:38:41,945 --> 00:38:45,799 Ringing in the new millennium on Times Square. 804 00:38:45,823 --> 00:38:48,636 -After years of anticipation and anxiety, 805 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:51,597 Y2K has arrived in America. 806 00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:54,099 -It was 12:01 a.m., 807 00:38:54,123 --> 00:38:56,644 and the ball had dropped in New York 808 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,437 and all the TVs were still on 809 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,106 and people were checking their microwave ovens. 810 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,067 They're checking their phones. All the phones work. 811 00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:08,405 You know, by and large, everything worked. 812 00:39:08,429 --> 00:39:11,992 -Sure enough, there were no viruses. 813 00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,453 No planes fell out of the sky. 814 00:39:14,477 --> 00:39:17,206 Elevators didn't plummet to the ground. 815 00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:19,750 -It was nothing but just a big yawner. 816 00:39:19,774 --> 00:39:21,627 -No major problems to report, 817 00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:23,921 not only in the United States, but in fact, 818 00:39:23,945 --> 00:39:25,589 throughout the world. 819 00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:28,300 -Now, the reality is that there were tens of thousands 820 00:39:28,324 --> 00:39:30,052 of Y2K problems, but the thing is, 821 00:39:30,076 --> 00:39:31,637 you didn't hear about them. 822 00:39:31,661 --> 00:39:34,431 -It's true. Behind the scenes in Washington, 823 00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:37,434 Koskinen's been putting out fires all night. 824 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:41,480 -The Japanese reported that the computer safety systems 825 00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:46,026 monitoring their nuclear plants wasn't functioning well. 826 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:49,029 The Department of Transportation is saying the low-level 827 00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:50,948 wind shear detectors at all the airports 828 00:39:50,972 --> 00:39:52,700 in the United States failed. 829 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:54,285 And I sent them a note back saying, 830 00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:55,786 "Well, you're kidding, right?" And he said no. 831 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:57,830 [ Clears throat ] "When you landed at LaGuardia, 832 00:39:57,854 --> 00:39:59,999 there were no low-level wind shear detectors 833 00:40:00,023 --> 00:40:04,003 and the defense intelligence satellite system has gone down." 834 00:40:04,027 --> 00:40:05,879 So I had a conference with the Defense Department, 835 00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:08,924 the State Department, and the CIA, 836 00:40:08,948 --> 00:40:10,843 and sure enough, it went well. 837 00:40:10,867 --> 00:40:14,972 There were things that didn't work, but nothing systemic. 838 00:40:14,996 --> 00:40:17,558 -One bomb does go off, but it's in Russia... 839 00:40:17,582 --> 00:40:21,437 When President Boris Yeltsin announces he's stepping down, 840 00:40:21,461 --> 00:40:23,188 the Vladimir Putin era begins 841 00:40:23,212 --> 00:40:26,066 in the midst of millennium celebrations. 842 00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:29,820 {\an8}-[ Speaking in Russian ] 843 00:40:29,844 --> 00:40:32,281 {\an8}♪♪ 844 00:40:32,305 --> 00:40:34,074 -Koskinen has been working two years 845 00:40:34,098 --> 00:40:37,077 to prevent a catastrophe in the U.S., 846 00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:40,372 but as they say, no good deed goes unpunished. 847 00:40:40,396 --> 00:40:44,084 -Only took about 6 hours before the media began 848 00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:46,045 to be full of stories saying, 849 00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:48,380 "Well, that was a hoax. What a waste of money." 850 00:40:48,404 --> 00:40:51,300 -Things couldn't be going more smoothly... so smoothly, 851 00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:54,094 some are even asking if all that preparing was necessary. 852 00:40:54,118 --> 00:40:58,098 -So at midnight, I took a big cake up to the reporters, 853 00:40:58,122 --> 00:41:01,018 and Sam Donaldson of ABC was there and he said, 854 00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:03,270 "Well, this is all a big waste of time." 855 00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:04,688 And I told him, I said, "Sam, 856 00:41:04,712 --> 00:41:06,482 you all don't care because nobody died." 857 00:41:06,506 --> 00:41:08,233 I said, "If there's not blood in the street, 858 00:41:08,257 --> 00:41:10,653 you think it's not a problem." 859 00:41:10,677 --> 00:41:13,906 -The public backlash against the two faces of Y2K 860 00:41:13,930 --> 00:41:15,366 is harsh and immediate. 861 00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:17,368 -So the guy who wrote the Paul Revere story... 862 00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:20,954 I would have loved to have seen him having coffee 863 00:41:20,978 --> 00:41:23,082 the next morning and, you know, 864 00:41:23,106 --> 00:41:27,920 like everything's okay. Like, how do you live with that? 865 00:41:27,944 --> 00:41:30,214 -Peter struggled as a result of having been 866 00:41:30,238 --> 00:41:34,134 so visibly associated with Y2K, 867 00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:36,845 which was a great shame, because he did a wonderful job 868 00:41:36,869 --> 00:41:39,223 and was very responsible about it. 869 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:41,433 -The year 2000 was difficult. 870 00:41:41,457 --> 00:41:43,852 I'm bipolar, okay? 871 00:41:43,876 --> 00:41:48,774 And basically, I was in a one-decade-long manic stage. 872 00:41:48,798 --> 00:41:50,317 And then when I came down, 873 00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:53,904 I stopped doing media interviews at all. 874 00:41:53,928 --> 00:41:56,490 We received death threats. 875 00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:58,534 People were upset. 876 00:41:58,558 --> 00:42:02,454 The reality is, Y2K was an issue. 877 00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:03,997 We know it was an issue because we went 878 00:42:04,021 --> 00:42:06,583 and tested, systems failed, 879 00:42:06,607 --> 00:42:10,921 and rather than have them fail, we spent money to fix them. 880 00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:12,798 -Those Y2K fixes cost 881 00:42:12,822 --> 00:42:16,343 an estimated $400 billion worldwide. 882 00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:20,264 {\an8}♪♪ 883 00:42:20,288 --> 00:42:23,517 -It was the first time the world came together 884 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:25,269 on a single project. 885 00:42:25,293 --> 00:42:28,981 If John Koskinen had had not been appointed to that position, 886 00:42:29,005 --> 00:42:31,692 I do not believe the US government would have 887 00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:34,236 gotten its act together in time. 888 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:36,613 -Couple of months later, I'm renting a car 889 00:42:36,637 --> 00:42:39,199 from a local company in Raleigh Durham Airport, 890 00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:42,619 and I get charged $10 for underage driver. 891 00:42:42,643 --> 00:42:44,079 And I said, "What's that?" 892 00:42:44,103 --> 00:42:45,998 And the guy said, "Oh, that's our Y2K problem. 893 00:42:46,022 --> 00:42:50,669 It keeps thinking you were born in 1839 or 1939 894 00:42:50,693 --> 00:42:54,131 and it's now 1900 and you're actually -39 years old." 895 00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:58,218 And I said, "Where were you guys when I needed you?" 896 00:42:58,242 --> 00:43:01,472 -Surprisingly, over the last year or two, 897 00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:06,226 there's a growing realization that we did dodged a bullet, 898 00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:11,482 and I think that has been exacerbated by COVID. 899 00:43:11,506 --> 00:43:16,028 If we ran Y2K like we were running COVID, 900 00:43:16,052 --> 00:43:18,363 we would have failed. 901 00:43:18,387 --> 00:43:20,449 Y2K had a single message. 902 00:43:20,473 --> 00:43:21,992 -In allegiance to the Constitution 903 00:43:22,016 --> 00:43:23,285 of the United States... 904 00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:25,829 -If Y2K happened today, 905 00:43:25,853 --> 00:43:28,457 you would have everybody cherry-picking 906 00:43:28,481 --> 00:43:32,169 and getting their information from their own sources. 907 00:43:32,193 --> 00:43:35,380 It's not that misinformation is new. 908 00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:39,009 It's that it wasn't as easy and it wasn't as prevalent. 909 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:43,680 {\an8}♪♪ 910 00:43:43,704 --> 00:43:46,642 {\an8}We truly were that '90s generation. 911 00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:50,062 {\an8}We were the last ones that really kind of remember 912 00:43:50,086 --> 00:43:53,607 {\an8}growing up without technology. 913 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:56,360 {\an8}From a historic lens, it's a seismic shift. 914 00:43:56,384 --> 00:43:58,070 {\an8}And I think in 100 years, they'll be talking 915 00:43:58,094 --> 00:44:01,657 {\an8}about the '90s as the era where everything went, 916 00:44:01,681 --> 00:44:07,621 {\an8}you know, digital and became this whole technological world 917 00:44:07,645 --> 00:44:09,814 {\an8}Kind of crazy.