1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:10,796 --> 00:00:14,379 (foreboding ominous music) 4 00:00:25,777 --> 00:00:28,128 - [Jessie] My name is Jessie. 5 00:00:28,170 --> 00:00:30,348 I'm a 26-year-old postgraduate student 6 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:32,718 from Iowa studying journalism. 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,210 But this documentary has nothing to do with that. 8 00:00:37,890 --> 00:00:39,978 This is a personal project about something 9 00:00:40,020 --> 00:00:41,868 that is happening in a place a couple of towns 10 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:44,758 from where I grew up, a town called Mitchin 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,933 in Arlin county, Iowa. 12 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:49,188 The town is situated on the other side 13 00:00:49,230 --> 00:00:52,218 of the Des Moines River, an area known 14 00:00:52,260 --> 00:00:56,328 for its surrounding farmlands and woodland, 15 00:00:56,370 --> 00:00:58,698 and is a sight to see from a distance. 16 00:00:58,740 --> 00:01:02,346 But if you look closely, there is something strange. 17 00:01:02,388 --> 00:01:03,296 (TV signal buzzing) 18 00:01:03,338 --> 00:01:05,288 (tense dramatic music) 19 00:01:05,330 --> 00:01:08,118 (TV signal buzzing) 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,058 Me and my ex-boyfriend are taking time off to film this 21 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:12,648 in the hope of finding some clarity 22 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:14,838 and maybe even to solve this strange 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,418 and disturbing case once and for all. 24 00:01:17,460 --> 00:01:20,388 It's something that is close to all of our hearts in Iowa. 25 00:01:20,430 --> 00:01:22,368 It all started four years ago, 26 00:01:22,410 --> 00:01:25,894 back when maybe I was a little too young to understand. 27 00:01:25,936 --> 00:01:29,342 (bright acoustic music) 28 00:01:29,384 --> 00:01:32,088 (dramatic music) 29 00:01:32,130 --> 00:01:33,588 - Homicide was confirmed tonight 30 00:01:33,630 --> 00:01:35,388 in the small town of Mitchin. 31 00:01:35,430 --> 00:01:37,758 The victim is believed to be 22-year-old waitress 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,473 and student, Shelley Harrison, from Arlin County. 33 00:01:41,490 --> 00:01:44,058 - There are no new leads at this point, 34 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:48,048 but we are working hard to get to the bottom of this. 35 00:01:48,090 --> 00:01:51,183 Our thoughts and prayers are with the family at this point. 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,048 - [Jessie] A local man was arrested in 1990 up on the hill. 37 00:01:57,090 --> 00:02:00,318 He was arrested for one murder, one attempted. 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,228 His name was Bruce Herber, a recluse that lived up 39 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:05,718 in a small wooden house in the rigid woodland area 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,178 between the town and the main highway. 41 00:02:08,220 --> 00:02:09,648 And he still does. 42 00:02:09,690 --> 00:02:12,768 Back in '90, the town was convinced it was him, 43 00:02:12,810 --> 00:02:15,138 that he was the one killing and attacking. 44 00:02:15,180 --> 00:02:18,018 - See, let me be, let me be. 45 00:02:18,060 --> 00:02:19,210 - [Jessie] You fucking. 46 00:02:20,790 --> 00:02:22,098 This was until four weeks 47 00:02:22,140 --> 00:02:24,468 after Bruce was arrested without bail 48 00:02:24,510 --> 00:02:25,878 and was in county jail. 49 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:29,178 April 30th, 1990 to be precise, another girl, 50 00:02:29,220 --> 00:02:32,658 Maisie Winters, was found with wounds in the same area 51 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:34,548 and with the same puncture marks 52 00:02:34,590 --> 00:02:36,540 that were similar to the other victims. 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,038 This and the fact that Bruce had an alibi 54 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,928 for when the other victims were attacked, 55 00:02:41,970 --> 00:02:44,820 led to Bruce's release with some protests surrounding it. 56 00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:49,488 Maisie Winters was one of the most famous cases. 57 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:52,353 She survived, by the way, as did Sarah O'Reilly. 58 00:02:53,248 --> 00:02:55,458 (gentle piano music) 59 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:58,398 So what do we know about this murderer so far? 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,878 The victims are mainly women, late teens to 20s. 61 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:03,633 But there is one discrepancy. 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,898 A guy, 25, who was murdered in the same way. 63 00:03:08,940 --> 00:03:11,418 He was a local musician who frequented the local bars 64 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:13,488 and sometimes toured around the state. 65 00:03:13,530 --> 00:03:15,618 Stabbed multiple times, as was the usual 66 00:03:15,660 --> 00:03:16,938 for the murder victims, 67 00:03:16,980 --> 00:03:19,698 as well as some strange puncture marks. 68 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:21,228 His name was Ben Holmes 69 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:24,888 and he was killed on May 23rd, 1990. 70 00:03:24,930 --> 00:03:27,333 The killer had left an even longer gap with him. 71 00:03:29,820 --> 00:03:33,438 In this town with a population of just over 20,000, 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,688 any murders and assaults are noticed, 73 00:03:35,730 --> 00:03:38,118 and the police and locals could never understand this break 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,445 in the killer's pattern when it comes to Ben. 75 00:03:40,487 --> 00:03:41,748 (guitar riff music) 76 00:03:41,790 --> 00:03:43,488 The police never caught the killer. 77 00:03:43,530 --> 00:03:45,528 Even though the FBI, local townsfolk 78 00:03:45,570 --> 00:03:47,598 and many others were involved, 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,698 even though there was a statewide search 80 00:03:49,740 --> 00:03:52,818 and they scoured the hills and surrounding woodland. 81 00:03:52,860 --> 00:03:55,140 Whoever it was, they were gone. 82 00:03:55,182 --> 00:03:57,558 (guitar riff music) 83 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,408 If I could ask you, in relation to Ben's murder, 84 00:04:00,450 --> 00:04:01,968 do you have any idea who may 85 00:04:02,010 --> 00:04:03,893 or may not have been involved with it? 86 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,753 - To be honest, nobody does. 87 00:04:08,190 --> 00:04:11,178 - [Jessie] The town seemed to go back to normality. 88 00:04:11,220 --> 00:04:13,308 Curfews were relaxed. 89 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:18,018 This was until 1994, another girl was murdered the same way 90 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:19,803 as how it happened four years ago. 91 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,938 Multiple stab wounds and a struggle, 92 00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:25,818 and they were taken towards the woodland area. 93 00:04:25,860 --> 00:04:27,573 Her name was Rochelle Harman. 94 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,878 This will be a project that mainly consists 95 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,294 of interviews of victims and other folk from this town. 96 00:04:35,336 --> 00:04:37,788 (gentle rock music) 97 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:39,018 This town that has been home, 98 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:41,688 at least in part, to a serial killer. 99 00:04:41,730 --> 00:04:43,848 But everybody is searching and wanting to know 100 00:04:43,890 --> 00:04:47,508 who is this mysterious person or even creature, 101 00:04:47,550 --> 00:04:49,908 a murderer, a myth that has been known 102 00:04:49,950 --> 00:04:51,603 to be called the boogeyman. 103 00:04:53,113 --> 00:04:55,946 (hard rock music) 104 00:05:02,454 --> 00:05:05,787 (serene acoustic music) 105 00:05:17,764 --> 00:05:22,764 ♪ What am I to do ♪ 106 00:05:24,225 --> 00:05:29,225 ♪ What am I to say ♪ 107 00:05:30,506 --> 00:05:35,506 ♪ My mind is all I got ♪ 108 00:05:37,124 --> 00:05:42,124 ♪ These dreams and all these thoughts ♪ 109 00:05:44,783 --> 00:05:49,783 ♪ An ocean of serpents are dancing in my skin ♪ 110 00:05:51,512 --> 00:05:56,512 ♪ My shadow eclipsed the sun ♪ 111 00:05:56,785 --> 00:06:00,868 ♪ And I sleep walk down the hill ♪ 112 00:06:02,384 --> 00:06:04,678 ♪ For miles and miles ♪ - Excuse me, excuse me. 113 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,638 - Okay, fun's over, get that camera out of here. 114 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:08,471 - [Jessie] Look, I was just wondering 115 00:06:08,513 --> 00:06:09,828 if I could ask you a few more questions 116 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:11,378 for my documentary about the murders here? 117 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:13,308 - Do you even have permission to film here? 118 00:06:13,350 --> 00:06:14,958 - [Jessie] Look, I'm filming a personal project. 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,941 I'm not sure what kind of permission I need. 120 00:06:16,983 --> 00:06:19,072 - Okay, well, the party is over. 121 00:06:19,114 --> 00:06:20,710 - Just one. - The party is over. 122 00:06:20,752 --> 00:06:22,872 - Please, sir. - Get that camera out of here. 123 00:06:22,914 --> 00:06:23,705 Okay? - I just need to ask you 124 00:06:23,747 --> 00:06:24,708 one question. - If you want 125 00:06:24,750 --> 00:06:26,688 any more information, I suggest 126 00:06:26,730 --> 00:06:28,128 that you apply for press pass. 127 00:06:28,170 --> 00:06:29,268 Now, I ain't gonna ask you again, 128 00:06:29,310 --> 00:06:30,648 get that camera out of here. - Okay, okay. 129 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:32,688 Just one, please! - Be about your business. 130 00:06:32,730 --> 00:06:35,328 - [Jessie] Were you the sheriff in 1990? 131 00:06:35,370 --> 00:06:37,920 I recognized your face from, from the news reports. 132 00:06:38,824 --> 00:06:43,824 (rain pattering) (gentle acoustic music) 133 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:52,073 ♪ Easy, easy, let me down easy ♪ 134 00:06:52,843 --> 00:06:55,678 ♪ Don't wanna be one of those girls ♪ 135 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,470 ♪ That gives you a hard time ♪ 136 00:07:01,231 --> 00:07:03,348 - So we are just assimilating data. 137 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:06,108 And it is high summer here in Mitchin, 138 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:10,946 but it is raining outside and it is coming down. 139 00:07:10,988 --> 00:07:13,008 (rain pattering) 140 00:07:13,050 --> 00:07:15,300 There's usually drought at this time of year, 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,838 as if that doesn't need to add to the amount 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,688 of weird things going on here in Mitchin. 143 00:07:20,730 --> 00:07:24,318 Anyway, I better get back to Jesse, left her on her own. 144 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,208 (rain pattering) 145 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:27,828 - [Jessie] Other than the unsuccessful visit 146 00:07:27,870 --> 00:07:28,968 to the law enforcement, 147 00:07:29,010 --> 00:07:31,938 my first interviewee is Maisie Winters. 148 00:07:31,980 --> 00:07:34,068 She was reluctant to interview at first. 149 00:07:34,110 --> 00:07:37,128 She was the woman who survived an attack four years ago, 150 00:07:37,170 --> 00:07:40,338 and it was the case that vindicated Bruce Herber. 151 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:42,580 - [Thomas] Hi, Maisie, thank you for coming. 152 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,513 - No problem. 153 00:07:45,408 --> 00:07:46,703 - [Thomas] Do you want a cigarette? 154 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,875 - Thank you, yeah. 155 00:07:49,917 --> 00:07:51,768 - [Jessie] She managed to break away from the killer 156 00:07:51,810 --> 00:07:53,838 and run down the hills to the town. 157 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,598 Eyewitnesses stated that she screamed for help. 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,628 She survived the boogeyman, but not without scars, 159 00:07:59,670 --> 00:08:01,353 both physical and mental. 160 00:08:02,408 --> 00:08:05,991 (foreboding ominous music) 161 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:16,518 - So what do you wanna know? 162 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,678 - [Thomas] Well, let's start with the basics. 163 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,273 That night, what happened back in 1990? 164 00:08:22,290 --> 00:08:26,118 - Okay, so it was April 30th, 1990. 165 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,348 I was working at this bar, Mazers, 166 00:08:27,390 --> 00:08:29,243 you know the one on the stretch? 167 00:08:29,285 --> 00:08:30,401 - Yeah, I know Mazers. - Yeah. 168 00:08:30,443 --> 00:08:32,067 - [Thomas] It's still here, right? (Maisie chuckles) 169 00:08:32,109 --> 00:08:32,958 - It sure is. 170 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,578 - [Jessie] Mazers is a drinking joint close 171 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:36,018 to the strip where the main shops 172 00:08:36,060 --> 00:08:38,358 and amenities are located in the town. 173 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,938 Some people find it bizarre that the attacker was so close 174 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:43,068 to the population when he attacked. 175 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:45,438 - So I was working at Mazers part-time, 176 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,730 collecting glasses, waiting tables, you know, 177 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:50,268 the usual shit to save money for college. 178 00:08:50,310 --> 00:08:53,028 And this one particular night, 179 00:08:53,070 --> 00:08:55,965 these guys were buying me tequila as a way of thanking me. 180 00:08:56,007 --> 00:08:58,248 And I mean, this wasn't the first time this had happened, 181 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:00,168 and I'm used to rowdy folks. 182 00:09:00,210 --> 00:09:02,178 So I got a little drunk 183 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:05,238 and I went out back to have a cigarette. 184 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,398 And you know how the main stretch backs onto the, 185 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,498 onto the hills, the ridge? 186 00:09:09,540 --> 00:09:11,598 - Yeah, okay. - All of a sudden 187 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,640 I-I sort of felt this uh, like this cold, and I've... 188 00:09:19,419 --> 00:09:22,548 (ominous music) 189 00:09:22,590 --> 00:09:24,318 - [Thomas] Hey, Maisie, you're doing really well. 190 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,842 If you wanna stop, that's- 191 00:09:25,884 --> 00:09:28,241 - No, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine. 192 00:09:28,283 --> 00:09:30,408 I just, I just haven't really spoken about it 193 00:09:30,450 --> 00:09:34,007 since the cops and everything, so um. 194 00:09:34,049 --> 00:09:36,198 So, so I felt this cold, 195 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,488 like this cold presence, 196 00:09:37,530 --> 00:09:39,618 like when you know someone's there. 197 00:09:39,660 --> 00:09:42,948 - Yeah, I think so. - And, and all of a sudden 198 00:09:42,990 --> 00:09:45,348 th-there was a hand over my mouth. 199 00:09:45,390 --> 00:09:48,468 And I just started getting dragged straight up this hill. 200 00:09:48,510 --> 00:09:50,028 And I mean, like, straight up. 201 00:09:50,070 --> 00:09:52,248 I mean, I-I struggled, but he was, like, strong, 202 00:09:52,290 --> 00:09:54,543 like really strong, like, 203 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:57,168 like, superman or some shit. 204 00:09:57,210 --> 00:09:59,821 And he dragged me for a while. 205 00:09:59,863 --> 00:10:01,068 I-I couldn't tell you how long. 206 00:10:01,110 --> 00:10:04,972 And then, and then we were in the woods. 207 00:10:05,014 --> 00:10:06,714 (ominous music) 208 00:10:06,756 --> 00:10:09,056 And, and then he started to whisper in my ear, 209 00:10:10,777 --> 00:10:12,453 "You've been a bad girl. 210 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,893 You've been a very bad girl, you need to be punished. 211 00:10:17,790 --> 00:10:19,917 You need to be cleansed of your sins." 212 00:10:21,060 --> 00:10:23,625 And then he started to claw at my shoulder really hard 213 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:26,598 and his fingernails were really weird. 214 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,368 And, and then I could feel him reaching 215 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:29,628 for something in his pocket. 216 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:30,948 And me all revved up, you know, like, 217 00:10:30,990 --> 00:10:33,592 I-I'd heard what had happened to the other one. 218 00:10:33,634 --> 00:10:36,828 So I-I just reached for this, this log to my left, 219 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:39,948 and I just swung it, you know, I just kept fucking swinging. 220 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:44,990 A-and then I-I heard this squeal and then I was free. 221 00:10:45,300 --> 00:10:48,498 And so I just started running, not back into the woods, 222 00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:50,508 fucking don't what's in there, you know? 223 00:10:50,550 --> 00:10:53,148 So I started like, running down the ridge. 224 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:56,148 And, and I just started screaming, 225 00:10:56,190 --> 00:10:58,263 you know, like, please help me. 226 00:11:01,170 --> 00:11:03,498 - [Thomas] Maisie, can I ask you a question? 227 00:11:03,540 --> 00:11:05,058 - Sure. 228 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:06,288 - [Thomas] The guys at the bar, do you, 229 00:11:06,330 --> 00:11:08,581 do you think they had anything to do with this? 230 00:11:08,623 --> 00:11:09,663 - I don't think so. 231 00:11:11,194 --> 00:11:12,708 'Cause when I got down the bottom of the ridge, 232 00:11:12,750 --> 00:11:15,588 they were still at the bar, you know? 233 00:11:15,630 --> 00:11:17,598 And, and they helped me. 234 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,458 They called the cops, they were questioned 235 00:11:19,500 --> 00:11:20,291 and they were cleared. 236 00:11:20,333 --> 00:11:22,875 And, and they did bloods and DNA and shit and everything. 237 00:11:22,917 --> 00:11:24,588 A-a-and they couldn't find a match. 238 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:28,248 And not even that weirdo in the woods was a match. 239 00:11:28,290 --> 00:11:29,898 - [[Thomas] Do you mean Bruce Herber? 240 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:31,581 Do you think he had anything to do with it? 241 00:11:31,623 --> 00:11:33,933 - I don't know, I don't know, dude. 242 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:36,633 Nobody knows. 243 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:40,128 All I know is that I was supposed to be 244 00:11:40,170 --> 00:11:45,063 at college at Drake's that year end. 245 00:11:45,990 --> 00:11:48,378 Instead, I spent three years 246 00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:50,870 just paralyzed by fear. (scoffs) 247 00:11:50,912 --> 00:11:54,031 (ominous music) 248 00:11:54,073 --> 00:11:54,906 The boogeyman. 249 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,893 - What do you mean? - That's what they call him. 250 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,628 'Cause he's here to cleanse you of your sins. 251 00:12:02,670 --> 00:12:04,578 - [Thomas] Do you think that's what the killer wants? 252 00:12:04,620 --> 00:12:07,123 Some sort of twisted retribution? 253 00:12:07,165 --> 00:12:09,453 - I don't know, I don't know. 254 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,523 We've all sinned, right? 255 00:12:13,170 --> 00:12:16,818 It's weird, but when he spoke to me, it's like he knew me. 256 00:12:16,860 --> 00:12:19,263 It's like he knew every bad thing I'd ever done. 257 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:22,733 Weird. 258 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,968 - [Jessie] Maisie Winters had 259 00:12:32,010 --> 00:12:34,788 a relatively affluent upbringing right here 260 00:12:34,830 --> 00:12:36,768 in the town of Mitchin. 261 00:12:36,810 --> 00:12:40,548 Her parents are still together, she was popular at school. 262 00:12:40,590 --> 00:12:43,068 She was what seems to be a healthy kid 263 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:44,463 in small town America. 264 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:47,538 I asked her if she knew of any grudges, 265 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:51,408 perhaps somebody was jealous or resentful of her existence. 266 00:12:51,450 --> 00:12:54,303 Perhaps the attacks are not opportunistic or random. 267 00:12:55,230 --> 00:12:56,823 She could think of no one. 268 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:00,138 Thomas was left a little perplexed 269 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:02,328 by the conversation with Maisie. 270 00:13:02,370 --> 00:13:04,008 We knew that we would have to speak to her again, 271 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:06,018 but I thought I would give her a little break 272 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:08,208 so she didn't get too upset. 273 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:10,323 We agreed to resume in a couple of days. 274 00:13:12,724 --> 00:13:14,744 (sad cello music) 275 00:13:14,786 --> 00:13:16,068 I managed to set up an interview 276 00:13:16,110 --> 00:13:18,588 with Sarah O'Reilly, the other survivor. 277 00:13:18,630 --> 00:13:21,288 Sarah suffered a similar experience to Maisie. 278 00:13:21,330 --> 00:13:24,513 She was dragged up the hill, but there was a strange twist. 279 00:13:27,132 --> 00:13:30,299 (bright guitar music) 280 00:13:54,303 --> 00:13:58,338 (energetic rock music) 281 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:01,068 - [Thomas] Make yourself comfortable, it's all good. 282 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:05,101 - So uh, like, are we gonna be on, like, TV or? 283 00:14:05,143 --> 00:14:05,963 (Thomas chuckles) 284 00:14:06,005 --> 00:14:08,298 - [Thomas] I'm not sure yet, but I'll be sure 285 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:10,623 to get your permission for any distribution. 286 00:14:11,460 --> 00:14:12,251 Thank you so much for coming. 287 00:14:12,293 --> 00:14:13,698 - Yeah. - I really appreciate it. 288 00:14:13,740 --> 00:14:14,531 - Yeah, of course. 289 00:14:14,573 --> 00:14:16,128 No, it's, yeah, it's, it's cool actually. 290 00:14:16,170 --> 00:14:18,078 I've done a, I've done a lot of interviews 291 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,798 about this already, but yeah, nothing televised. 292 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,688 - [Thomas] Okay, cool, well, let's jump straight in. 293 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:25,218 I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions 294 00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:27,138 about what happened that night, 295 00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:28,398 the night of the kidnapping, you know? 296 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,895 - Mm-hmm. 297 00:14:29,937 --> 00:14:32,604 (ominous music) 298 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,303 Yeah, I was at the bar. 299 00:14:43,620 --> 00:14:45,420 I don't know if you know it, Mazers. 300 00:14:46,356 --> 00:14:47,147 - Mazers? - Yeah, yeah. 301 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:48,528 I went outside for a cigarette 302 00:14:48,570 --> 00:14:50,928 and also to get away from Dobey Coleman 303 00:14:50,970 --> 00:14:54,093 trying to put his fat fingers on my ass every five. 304 00:14:54,990 --> 00:14:58,188 Not that he has anything to do with the murders. 305 00:14:58,230 --> 00:15:01,218 He's just your average local town idiot. 306 00:15:01,260 --> 00:15:03,978 You can ask Maisie that, she'll confirm. 307 00:15:04,020 --> 00:15:05,418 He is completely harmless. 308 00:15:05,460 --> 00:15:07,891 - [Thomas] How are you and Maisie close? 309 00:15:07,933 --> 00:15:10,098 - I wouldn't go that far. 310 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:13,188 I mean, we hung out, like a bit, after the event. 311 00:15:13,230 --> 00:15:16,278 You know, it gives you a bond, you know? 312 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,858 But uh, yeah, she got really freaked out, 313 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:22,368 like, about the whole thing, and well, she still is, right? 314 00:15:22,410 --> 00:15:26,838 She's, I don't know, traumatized 315 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,138 or, you know, and I-I-I kept telling her, 316 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:33,888 he is just some hillbilly loon, 317 00:15:33,930 --> 00:15:34,938 you know, don't get nightmares. 318 00:15:34,980 --> 00:15:36,580 But she wasn't having any of it, 319 00:15:37,770 --> 00:15:40,668 especially after that the guy died. 320 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:42,177 - [Thomas] Yeah, yeah, that's bad. 321 00:15:43,770 --> 00:15:45,948 So back to that night. 322 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:48,100 - Oh, yes, yeah. (chuckles) 323 00:15:48,142 --> 00:15:53,017 So yeah, the night, well, some asshole 324 00:15:56,370 --> 00:15:58,068 dragged me way on up the hill. 325 00:15:58,110 --> 00:16:02,688 And with such strength, I-I like, 326 00:16:02,730 --> 00:16:05,702 I kept trying to, like, pull him off me and, 327 00:16:05,744 --> 00:16:08,358 and well, no way, bro. 328 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,508 You know, at first, like, I thought that was a joke, 329 00:16:11,550 --> 00:16:13,998 but then like, he, he was really hurting. 330 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,040 And yeah, he was, like, pulling at my hair and, (chuckles) 331 00:16:19,085 --> 00:16:21,438 and well, I struggled, but I-I remember being 332 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,078 on top of the hill and, and thinking, 333 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:29,120 well, this is the moment when I die. (chuckles) 334 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,148 Yeah, and then um, yeah, then a gunshot went off 335 00:16:32,190 --> 00:16:34,084 to the right of us, you know, bang! 336 00:16:34,126 --> 00:16:37,518 And, and well, the loon, he must have ran into the woods 337 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,088 behind me, and I couldn't see anyone with a shotgun. 338 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:44,568 So I, I just scrambled all the way down the hill 339 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:47,988 into Mazers, and I told Dobey and the others, 340 00:16:48,030 --> 00:16:51,348 and yeah, they went and scanned the area. 341 00:16:51,390 --> 00:16:53,778 And they scanned, they didn't find nothing. 342 00:16:53,820 --> 00:16:56,205 You know, and then, then the cops came. 343 00:16:56,247 --> 00:16:57,228 (police siren wailing) 344 00:16:57,270 --> 00:16:59,763 Not, not even a footprint. 345 00:17:01,410 --> 00:17:02,448 - [Thomas] Do you think Bruce Herber 346 00:17:02,490 --> 00:17:04,023 had anything to do with this? 347 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,078 - Probably not. 348 00:17:06,120 --> 00:17:07,803 I-I kind of feel sorry for him. 349 00:17:10,140 --> 00:17:13,623 Yeah, anyway, so I've gotta go pick up my mom. 350 00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:17,538 Are we gonna get a copy of this tape? 351 00:17:17,580 --> 00:17:20,647 - I'd love... Yeah, of course, of course. 352 00:17:20,689 --> 00:17:22,188 - Yeah? - Do you think we might get 353 00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:24,963 a chance to speak to you again if we, if we need to? 354 00:17:27,027 --> 00:17:30,648 - Oh, uh, I don't know, maybe, yeah. 355 00:17:30,690 --> 00:17:34,128 We'll, let me just see how, see how it goes, you know? 356 00:17:34,170 --> 00:17:36,348 You can send me the tape and then we'll see. (chuckles) 357 00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:37,368 - [Thomas] Okay, sure thing. 358 00:17:37,410 --> 00:17:38,478 We'll make sure we get it to you. 359 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,351 - Yeah, awesome. - No problem. 360 00:17:40,393 --> 00:17:41,680 - Thanks, it was nice to meet you. 361 00:17:41,722 --> 00:17:42,960 - [Thomas] Thank you, nice to meet you too. 362 00:17:43,002 --> 00:17:44,207 Thank you so much for coming. 363 00:17:44,249 --> 00:17:45,058 (soft rock music) 364 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:48,618 - [Jessie] Sarah O'Reilly, the aspiring actress. 365 00:17:48,660 --> 00:17:51,648 She had upbringing not too dissimilar from Maisie. 366 00:17:51,690 --> 00:17:54,198 In fact, they went to the same high school. 367 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,418 Sarah is from the outskirts of the town, 368 00:17:56,460 --> 00:17:59,358 a section not known for affluence. 369 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,000 It looks as though this killer did not discriminate. 370 00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:04,668 She told us she used to drown out the noise 371 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:07,660 of her parents arguing by playing rock music on her stereo. 372 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:10,968 They divorced when she hit her early teens. 373 00:18:11,010 --> 00:18:14,268 She had always wanted to be on stage, on a platform, 374 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:15,663 ever since she was a child. 375 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,328 She was prominent in school plays and film projects. 376 00:18:20,370 --> 00:18:23,120 She also finds it hard to think of any low key enemies. 377 00:18:27,150 --> 00:18:29,328 Dobey Coleman is the local town idiot. 378 00:18:29,370 --> 00:18:32,270 He's still alive, but has since refused to be interviewed. 379 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:36,798 When talking to Sarah O'Reilly and Maisie Winters, 380 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,168 they both had similar experiences, 381 00:18:39,210 --> 00:18:41,568 but completely different outlooks. 382 00:18:41,610 --> 00:18:43,818 On the one hand, Maisie seems to have 383 00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:46,068 a lot of trauma from the experience. 384 00:18:46,110 --> 00:18:48,618 She seems moved, emotional. 385 00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:51,278 Sarah seems detached from it, using the interview 386 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,628 as a potential platform for an entertainment career 387 00:18:53,670 --> 00:18:55,570 she told me she's looking to get into. 388 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,128 Another thing crossed my mind. 389 00:18:58,170 --> 00:19:00,179 Sarah O'Reilly mentioned a gunshot 390 00:19:00,221 --> 00:19:01,012 (gunfire booms) 391 00:19:01,054 --> 00:19:03,318 up on the hill, which seemed to save her life. 392 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:05,268 I wondered who it could be. 393 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:08,628 It made me think one way or another I needed to try 394 00:19:08,670 --> 00:19:11,808 and interview the guy that everyone was talking about. 395 00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:14,178 The one they suspected to be the boogeyman. 396 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:15,794 Bruce Herber on the hill. 397 00:19:15,836 --> 00:19:17,058 (tense music) 398 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,098 We couldn't seem to get a number for the guy, 399 00:19:19,140 --> 00:19:22,158 or anybody who did have a number would not give it to us. 400 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,326 So we took matters into our own hands. 401 00:19:24,368 --> 00:19:26,418 (tense music) 402 00:19:26,460 --> 00:19:28,049 Mr. Herber? 403 00:19:28,091 --> 00:19:30,591 (tense music) 404 00:19:33,194 --> 00:19:35,898 Mr. Herber, we're doing a piece on the murders 405 00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:39,408 and we wondered if we could just have a minute of your time. 406 00:19:39,450 --> 00:19:40,623 - I'm not interested. 407 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:44,163 And you shouldn't be up here anyways. 408 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:46,518 Go back down the hill, girl. 409 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,199 - [Jessie] Please, Mr. Herber, 410 00:19:48,241 --> 00:19:49,398 it will just take a minute of your time 411 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,940 and it could give you a chance to clear your name. 412 00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:55,650 - Go back down the hill. 413 00:19:59,450 --> 00:20:00,558 - [Jessie] He was not receptive 414 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,868 and still declined to speak with us, 415 00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:05,658 but a week later we received a call. 416 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:06,888 He said he would talk to us, 417 00:20:06,930 --> 00:20:09,078 but stressed that it had to be brief 418 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,168 and that he was only doing it to clear his name. 419 00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:15,438 It seems that everybody is aware of this documentary now. 420 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,058 Having said that, I am surprised 421 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,053 that more people have not come forward. 422 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:23,658 - [Thomas] Hi, Bruce, thanks so much for taking the call. 423 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:25,458 We will keep it as brief as possible. 424 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:26,898 - [Bruce] Okay. 425 00:20:26,940 --> 00:20:27,978 - [Thomas] No doubt that you've heard 426 00:20:28,020 --> 00:20:29,298 about the boogeyman mystery, 427 00:20:29,340 --> 00:20:31,818 and that is why you're looking to clear your name. 428 00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:33,648 Many think that you may be a suspect, 429 00:20:33,690 --> 00:20:35,628 but others think differently. 430 00:20:35,670 --> 00:20:38,200 - [Bruce] I'm not no boogieman, okay? 431 00:20:38,242 --> 00:20:40,578 I'm, I haven't touched or killed anyone. 432 00:20:40,620 --> 00:20:42,378 - [Thomas] Bruce, we completely understand that. 433 00:20:42,420 --> 00:20:44,208 And sorry to offend, as said, 434 00:20:44,250 --> 00:20:46,338 a lot of people think differently of you. 435 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:48,138 They say you're a good character. 436 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:50,988 Do you remember a girl by the name of Sarah O'Reilly? 437 00:20:51,030 --> 00:20:53,883 - [Bruce] That's a girl who got dragged up the hill. 438 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:56,553 Yeah, I remember her. 439 00:20:58,528 --> 00:21:01,668 I, oh, look, I-I-I really have to go now, I- 440 00:21:01,710 --> 00:21:03,138 - [Thomas] Mr. Herber, thank you so much. 441 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:04,518 This helps a lot. 442 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,608 If I can ask you one question before you leave, 443 00:21:07,650 --> 00:21:09,378 what do you think of the latest developments, 444 00:21:09,420 --> 00:21:10,278 the new attacks? 445 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,020 Do you think it's the same person? 446 00:21:13,260 --> 00:21:14,838 - [Bruce] I-I don't know, and I, 447 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,758 I don't wanna be involved in it. 448 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,938 As I said, I only came here to clear my name 449 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:22,593 of the shit before you start poking around. 450 00:21:24,090 --> 00:21:27,409 Seems like you have more investigating to do son. 451 00:21:27,451 --> 00:21:28,994 (phone clicks) 452 00:21:29,036 --> 00:21:31,428 (phone beeping) 453 00:21:31,470 --> 00:21:33,978 - [Jessie] Thomas had a strange phone call with Bruce. 454 00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:37,578 He was understandably pensive and defensive 455 00:21:37,620 --> 00:21:38,943 and didn't give much away. 456 00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:42,228 Would I say that he's a suspect? 457 00:21:42,270 --> 00:21:46,068 I'm not sure, but something tells me probably not. 458 00:21:46,110 --> 00:21:48,777 (pensive music) 459 00:21:51,330 --> 00:21:54,048 The next interview on my list would be the police. 460 00:21:54,090 --> 00:21:57,018 But we have had no positive correspondence from them. 461 00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:59,010 In fact, they have told us to butt out. 462 00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:03,018 The next option I thought would be to interview relatives 463 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:05,778 of the most recent murder, Rochelle Hardmann. 464 00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:07,788 We managed to get her brother to speak. 465 00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:08,898 He did this on the pretext 466 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:11,490 that people may come forward to help with the case. 467 00:22:13,786 --> 00:22:15,348 Hi, everyone, so I just thought 468 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:16,638 I'd do a quick apartment tour for you all. 469 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,488 Just got here to Mitchin and just met the landlord. 470 00:22:19,530 --> 00:22:22,758 He's really weird, but the apartment's really cool. 471 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,218 Like, we've got some artwork over here, 472 00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:27,858 and oh, this is my favorite one. 473 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:29,268 Ready? 474 00:22:29,310 --> 00:22:32,403 Americana! (chuckles) 475 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,589 - [Thomas] So you pick the drive over here okay? 476 00:22:36,631 --> 00:22:38,508 - I know this place very well. 477 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:39,858 I was quite fine, thank you, 478 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:40,920 thank you. - This place is 479 00:22:40,962 --> 00:22:42,948 a bitch to find though, it took me ages. (chuckles) 480 00:22:42,990 --> 00:22:44,640 - Thank you very much for asking. 481 00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:47,178 And these, this is great. 482 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:48,708 So you make, this is, I feel, 483 00:22:48,750 --> 00:22:50,358 I feel like a film star right now. 484 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,968 - Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, we got a nice setup. 485 00:22:53,010 --> 00:22:55,788 You just needs on sound, just taking care of everything. 486 00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:57,468 You okay with those bikes? 487 00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:58,343 Yeah? 488 00:22:59,190 --> 00:23:00,138 Okay, cool. 489 00:23:00,180 --> 00:23:01,013 We good to go? 490 00:23:01,860 --> 00:23:03,429 Great. 491 00:23:03,471 --> 00:23:06,138 (ominous music) 492 00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:11,238 So Mr. Hardmann, thank you so much for coming today. 493 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,098 We really appreciate it. 494 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:15,888 - No problem. - Mr. Hardmann, when- 495 00:23:15,930 --> 00:23:19,590 - Drayse, please call me Drayse. 496 00:23:19,632 --> 00:23:21,528 - [Thomas] Drayse, okay, sorry. 497 00:23:21,570 --> 00:23:25,173 With regards to your sister, our deepest condolences, 498 00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:27,858 when liaising with the cops 499 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:30,351 or any other information on the case, 500 00:23:30,393 --> 00:23:32,208 have you found that you've got any close 501 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:33,738 to finding who may have done this? 502 00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:36,730 And do you think that it's connected to the murders at all? 503 00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:41,763 - Oh, shit, that is some intense question. 504 00:23:43,513 --> 00:23:45,763 I would say it looks like the other attached. 505 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,460 I don't even wanna think about it, 506 00:23:51,002 --> 00:23:54,048 but the cops aren't really sure what's going on. 507 00:23:54,090 --> 00:23:57,213 Ridge was, was steeped in mystery anyway, you know? 508 00:23:58,500 --> 00:23:59,898 - [Thomas] Okay, so you, you don't think 509 00:23:59,940 --> 00:24:01,848 that the cops really have any leads? 510 00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:05,418 - Well, they had that one old weird guy, 511 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:08,043 but they don't really know if he did it. 512 00:24:09,023 --> 00:24:11,568 To be honest, I don't think he had anything to do with it. 513 00:24:11,610 --> 00:24:13,878 - You don't? - Well, if I did, 514 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,848 I would've fucking done something by now, wouldn't I? 515 00:24:16,890 --> 00:24:21,768 That's a fucking sure, but he's still everywhere. 516 00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:24,834 I mean, he's parasite. 517 00:24:24,876 --> 00:24:27,078 (gentle music) 518 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,696 But no, I don't think he did it. 519 00:24:30,738 --> 00:24:32,778 (gentle sad music) 520 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:34,623 I don't think he's capable. 521 00:24:34,665 --> 00:24:37,142 (gentle pensive music) 522 00:24:37,184 --> 00:24:38,868 - [Thomas] Drayse, do you mind 523 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:40,668 if I pick your brain for a while? 524 00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:45,468 There seems to be sort of a, about this town of lives hell 525 00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:48,663 or more of an urban legend about the boogeyman. 526 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:51,768 Is this something that you know about? 527 00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:53,148 You know, people seem to think 528 00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:55,548 that it's already been here, that it's supernatural. 529 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:56,778 Do you know anything about this? 530 00:24:56,820 --> 00:24:59,221 - That shit ain't real. 531 00:24:59,263 --> 00:25:00,558 I mean, the old girls used 532 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,311 to hop on about that all the time. 533 00:25:02,353 --> 00:25:04,668 I mean, my Aunt Clara used to say when, 534 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:07,495 when I was playing up, she used to say, 535 00:25:07,537 --> 00:25:12,138 "Stop messing around or the boogeyman will get you. 536 00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:15,168 He will punish you for your sins." 537 00:25:15,210 --> 00:25:17,508 - [Thomas] Shit, punish you for your sins? 538 00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:20,268 Is your Aunt Clara still alive now? 539 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:21,408 - No. 540 00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:23,043 She's also dead. 541 00:25:24,570 --> 00:25:27,266 But if you did wanna talk to some of the old girls 542 00:25:27,308 --> 00:25:30,438 who believe that shit, you could try the old girls 543 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,198 down the Great Cafe on Broad Street. 544 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,088 Ask for Jennifer. 545 00:25:35,130 --> 00:25:36,108 - [Thomas] Jennifer on Broad Street. 546 00:25:36,150 --> 00:25:37,941 Thank you, Drayse, it's really helpful. 547 00:25:37,983 --> 00:25:39,543 - This shit ain't true though. 548 00:25:40,590 --> 00:25:42,918 They're just messing around all fucking crazy 549 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,313 when they say that shit. 550 00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:47,778 Maisie Winters' in the crew. 551 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:49,938 I mean, they used to get freaked out 552 00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:52,023 by this stuff before the killings. 553 00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:56,298 You know, going on about the, the boogeyman. 554 00:25:56,340 --> 00:26:00,093 They spent one Halloween camped up on that ridge. 555 00:26:01,015 --> 00:26:03,318 Oh, yeah, you know, our school was a pretty, 556 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,433 a pretty fucking boring place. 557 00:26:07,260 --> 00:26:09,184 I used to play football though. 558 00:26:09,226 --> 00:26:11,088 (gentle pensive music) 559 00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:14,343 - Oh, nice, nice. - First pick. 560 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,344 Line back. 561 00:26:16,386 --> 00:26:18,438 (gentle pensive music) 562 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,178 - [Thomas] Thank you, Drayse, um, for coming in. 563 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:21,378 We really appreciate it. 564 00:26:21,420 --> 00:26:22,908 If we need to contact you again, 565 00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:26,148 can we, if that's okay with you? 566 00:26:26,190 --> 00:26:27,891 - Sure, it's okay, 567 00:26:27,933 --> 00:26:29,754 (gentle pensive music) 568 00:26:29,796 --> 00:26:31,203 but try not to. 569 00:26:31,245 --> 00:26:33,648 (gentle sad music) 570 00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:37,023 I've already spent so much of my time on this, 571 00:26:37,065 --> 00:26:39,075 (gentle sad music) 572 00:26:39,117 --> 00:26:41,073 and time is everything, you know? 573 00:26:42,289 --> 00:26:45,168 (gentle sad music) 574 00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:47,110 I sure hope somebody comes forward 575 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,493 once this shit gets shown. 576 00:26:51,493 --> 00:26:54,410 (gentle sad music) 577 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,313 I really do. 578 00:26:57,214 --> 00:27:00,138 (gentle sad music) 579 00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:02,543 - [Thomas] Thank you so much, Drayse, we appreciate it. 580 00:27:06,030 --> 00:27:08,388 - [Jessie] Drayse's interview was interesting. 581 00:27:08,430 --> 00:27:11,448 He was understandably in some form of grief, 582 00:27:11,490 --> 00:27:12,618 trying to work his way out 583 00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:14,973 of what has undoubtedly been a difficult time. 584 00:27:15,930 --> 00:27:18,558 What he said about the boogeyman myth seemed to tie in 585 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,928 with what Maisie Winters mentioned. 586 00:27:20,970 --> 00:27:23,328 The idea of somebody punishing the wicked, 587 00:27:23,370 --> 00:27:27,153 cleansing their soul, an urban legend, if you will. 588 00:27:28,770 --> 00:27:30,648 My mind wandered. 589 00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:33,318 The bodies were so accessible when killed, 590 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:36,648 the murderer didn't even seem to try and hide the bodies. 591 00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:39,678 It's as if they wanted people to find them. 592 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,438 This is something more akin to wild animals, 593 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,183 but Maisie's account clearly states it is human. 594 00:27:49,290 --> 00:27:54,290 - Hey, so, um, today is my last day on, um, boogeyman. 595 00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:04,730 Jesse and I, back in college, we, we were an item 596 00:28:08,926 --> 00:28:10,308 and I did some things I regretted. 597 00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:12,858 And we were hoping that working on this together, 598 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,138 we could come back together as, as a pair. 599 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:19,278 But if anything it's, it's just made things worse 600 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,943 with the stress and everything that's been happening. 601 00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:26,778 We seem to have very different viewpoints 602 00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:30,438 on what is going on and the risks involved. 603 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,278 - [Jessie] I think we have to, 604 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,868 we, we have to check it out for ourselves. 605 00:28:32,910 --> 00:28:35,628 - Negative, it's gonna be crawling with cops. 606 00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:38,958 - [Jessie] Oh yeah, but I-I was thinking we could sneak in. 607 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,793 You know, I'm, I don't know. 608 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:44,733 Come on, what are we doing this for? 609 00:28:46,895 --> 00:28:47,686 - I don't know, Jesse. 610 00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:50,418 Honestly, I don't even fucking know sometimes. 611 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:52,083 This is some fucked up shit. 612 00:28:53,070 --> 00:28:56,373 So today I'm afraid it's becoming too much. 613 00:28:58,786 --> 00:29:00,078 And I will be leaving the documentary 614 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,818 from this point forward. 615 00:29:01,860 --> 00:29:04,308 - [Jessie] Come on, remember what we're doing here? 616 00:29:04,350 --> 00:29:05,688 Documentaries that tell the truth, 617 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:07,728 documentaries that change things. 618 00:29:07,770 --> 00:29:09,213 We have to take the risk. 619 00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:13,380 Listen, if you're not into this- 620 00:29:13,422 --> 00:29:16,068 - Don't, don't give me that 621 00:29:16,110 --> 00:29:18,498 not into this routine shit, okay? 622 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:20,493 I've put as much into this as you have. 623 00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:25,113 I mean, okay, fine, we'll go, just, 624 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:29,602 just make sure it's water tight. 625 00:29:29,644 --> 00:29:31,698 (gentle acoustic music) 626 00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:33,378 - Hi, everyone. 627 00:29:33,420 --> 00:29:37,143 I have a little, little update for you. 628 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,998 Thomas will no longer be working with me on this piece. 629 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,628 We had several disagreements over things like location 630 00:29:44,670 --> 00:29:47,178 of the filming and the danger that it, that it brings. 631 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:48,498 - Dude, you dragged me out here. 632 00:29:48,540 --> 00:29:51,018 You, it's in the middle of fucking nowhere. 633 00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:52,368 You want us, (chuckles) 634 00:29:52,410 --> 00:29:54,528 you want us to be searching down this wild goose chase 635 00:29:54,570 --> 00:29:56,058 for a hunt that's some fantasy 636 00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:56,891 that you... A fantasy? 637 00:29:56,933 --> 00:29:57,941 - Made up in your head. - You're the one 638 00:29:57,983 --> 00:29:59,326 that told me about it. 639 00:29:59,368 --> 00:30:02,418 Yeah, he's, he's decided not to go ahead, 640 00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:04,675 just not to go ahead and to leave, um, 641 00:30:04,717 --> 00:30:06,203 and to leave and go back home, 642 00:30:07,077 --> 00:30:11,448 which honestly, I, I'm not totally surprised by. 643 00:30:11,490 --> 00:30:12,408 We, we weren't getting along. 644 00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:14,346 Sneak in at my fault. - Do you understand 645 00:30:14,388 --> 00:30:16,778 what you're doing if you get caught? 646 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:18,408 Do you understand? 647 00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,100 It can affect your employability. 648 00:30:20,951 --> 00:30:25,608 - He, he, he slept with someone else 649 00:30:25,650 --> 00:30:26,778 over, over a year ago. 650 00:30:26,820 --> 00:30:28,848 But I, I don't think I realized just 651 00:30:28,890 --> 00:30:30,738 how damaging it was for the relationship. 652 00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:33,430 And we weren't working together the way we should be. 653 00:30:34,410 --> 00:30:37,248 So I, I wish him all the best, I really do. 654 00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:38,878 I wish him all the best. 655 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,853 And I'm gonna be alone from here on out, 656 00:30:42,930 --> 00:30:46,203 do the interviews by myself, try and find this thing. 657 00:30:47,709 --> 00:30:50,508 ♪ Sleep well till the moon ♪ 658 00:30:50,550 --> 00:30:53,710 - It's just becoming too much. 659 00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:56,479 ♪ Sleep well ♪ 660 00:30:56,521 --> 00:30:59,568 - So with that in mind, 661 00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:03,198 I am reluctantly stepping aside 662 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,483 and will be leaving boogeyman. 663 00:31:13,223 --> 00:31:15,258 - And for the purpose of the documentary, 664 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:17,268 I would like to talk about the surrounding hills 665 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:20,869 that surround the small town of Mitchin, Arlin County, Iowa. 666 00:31:20,911 --> 00:31:22,818 (bright acoustic music) 667 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,188 They overlook the town on two sides, 668 00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:29,268 actually to the east of the town and to the west. 669 00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:30,633 So the town is in a bowl. 670 00:31:31,650 --> 00:31:33,663 The hills look like one long ridge, 671 00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:36,918 each that gets steeper as you go up them. 672 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,243 And they are full of dense woodland and bush. 673 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,408 They used to be a prime spot for cougar hunters, 674 00:31:42,450 --> 00:31:44,454 which are now likely extinct up on those. 675 00:31:44,496 --> 00:31:45,708 (bright acoustic music) 676 00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:48,678 When you reach the top, they plateau into flat woodland 677 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,148 and are surprisingly large 678 00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:52,173 like squares and squares of miles. 679 00:31:53,010 --> 00:31:56,448 Really easy for people to hang out and even live up there. 680 00:31:56,490 --> 00:31:59,118 The hills have a longer descent on the other side 681 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,720 and they have heavy woodland there. 682 00:32:00,762 --> 00:32:03,078 (bright acoustic music) 683 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,058 The attacks took place on the western portion 684 00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,638 of these hills, which happen to be the largest 685 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,308 and the most dense of the hilly areas. 686 00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:12,858 There were many crater type holes at the top. 687 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,298 And because of these new attacks, 688 00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:17,748 a lot of it is cordoned off by the police as discussed. 689 00:32:17,790 --> 00:32:20,298 Last time, the police and the FBI scoured the area 690 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:22,038 trying to find evidence, 691 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,453 but did not seem to find anything. 692 00:32:24,495 --> 00:32:27,162 (ominous music) 693 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,611 - Okay, viewers, it's Jesse here. I made it to the hill, 694 00:32:33,653 --> 00:32:35,928 but we're not really supposed to be here. 695 00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:38,688 I just, I think it's essential for the documentary. 696 00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:40,608 I'm gonna try and keep the camera as steady as I can, 697 00:32:40,650 --> 00:32:42,899 but it's pretty steep. 698 00:32:42,941 --> 00:32:44,538 (footsteps crunching) 699 00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:45,551 I'm also gonna try and keep my voice down 700 00:32:45,593 --> 00:32:48,344 because the cops could come back here at any time. 701 00:32:48,386 --> 00:32:49,338 (footsteps crunching) 702 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:52,503 Okay, okay, what's that? 703 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,263 It looks like, is that police tape? 704 00:33:02,730 --> 00:33:04,325 Maybe this is where the last murder was. 705 00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:06,018 (object banging) 706 00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:08,598 Oh, my god, oh, my God, oh, my God. 707 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,473 What was that? 708 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,718 Okay, there's some weird noises coming from the ridge. 709 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,582 I'm just gonna, I'm gonna keep my voice down and get here. 710 00:33:17,624 --> 00:33:19,363 Okay, go, let's go. 711 00:33:19,405 --> 00:33:22,572 (footsteps crunching) 712 00:33:27,783 --> 00:33:31,211 (electric guitar music) 713 00:33:31,253 --> 00:33:32,268 The trip to the west side 714 00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:35,103 of the ridges was an unmitigated disaster. 715 00:33:36,330 --> 00:33:38,658 It was as if we were getting close to something, 716 00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:41,943 something important, but got spooked by a noise. 717 00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:44,598 There is definitely something up there 718 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,198 worth checking out for this doc, and for answers. 719 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,078 For now, we need to get back to the interviews 720 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,938 and dig deep into them. 721 00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:55,458 Ladies and gentlemen, this is our landlord. 722 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,258 He seems to come over whenever he wants, 723 00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,418 even when we're not in. 724 00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:01,488 - I needed to fix the pipe. 725 00:34:01,530 --> 00:34:03,078 - [Jessie] He needed to fix the pipe, 726 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,108 ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Mitchin. 727 00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:08,373 - Is that thing on? - What th-the camera? 728 00:34:09,240 --> 00:34:11,043 Yes, yes it is, I'm recording you. 729 00:34:12,189 --> 00:34:13,407 Where are you going? 730 00:34:13,449 --> 00:34:14,980 (door latch clicks) (door thuds) 731 00:34:15,022 --> 00:34:16,911 My God, he's so weird. 732 00:34:16,953 --> 00:34:20,120 (gentle guitar music) 733 00:34:32,669 --> 00:34:35,688 (people chattering) 734 00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:38,178 Excuse me, I'm, I'm looking for Jennifer. 735 00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:40,698 - And who might you be? - My name is Jessie Heigel. 736 00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:41,531 I'm making a documentary 737 00:34:41,573 --> 00:34:43,308 about the recent activity here in Mitchin. 738 00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:44,717 - That's one of those kids, the weird one 739 00:34:45,193 --> 00:34:46,248 that everyone's talking about. 740 00:34:46,290 --> 00:34:47,628 - What do you want with me? 741 00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:49,159 - [Jessie] Ma'am, we were sent by Drayse, 742 00:34:49,201 --> 00:34:51,108 Drayson Hardmann, the brother of Rochelle. 743 00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:52,298 He said you may be able to shed some light 744 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,078 in the midst and legends of the boogeyman. 745 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,208 You know the, the superstitions that this town has 746 00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:58,248 and help me relate to the (speaks faintly). 747 00:34:58,290 --> 00:35:00,918 - See, young lady, this town's always been strange. 748 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,368 - Yeah. - But it's our town. 749 00:35:02,410 --> 00:35:04,068 - Yeah. - So when some weird kid 750 00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:06,078 from out of town is butting her nose in, 751 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,698 we're gonna be defensive. 752 00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:08,898 - I-I understand. - Having said that, 753 00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:09,858 there hasn't been enough coverage 754 00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,198 of this case at all. - Yep, yep, that is right. 755 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:13,031 That is right. - People are too worried 756 00:35:13,073 --> 00:35:15,978 about that damn OJ Simpson and Los Angeles 757 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:18,078 and all that crap to give us any attention. 758 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,088 - He definitely, definitely did it, you know? 759 00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:22,098 - [Jessie] Oh, so, so you would say that there's 760 00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:24,018 a legend in this town about the boogeyman? 761 00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:26,718 - Oh, someone say it's real, not made up at all. 762 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,938 - [Jessie] So you would say there's something tangible then, 763 00:35:28,980 --> 00:35:30,924 something real? 764 00:35:30,966 --> 00:35:33,978 - Look at you hiding behind the camera there. 765 00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:35,778 You can ask anyone in this town. 766 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:37,218 - Are you ladies all okay? 767 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:38,093 - Yes, thanks. 768 00:35:39,368 --> 00:35:40,788 And they'll tell you. 769 00:35:40,830 --> 00:35:43,625 Our parents, their parents will say to us, 770 00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:46,481 if you are naughty, boogeyman's gonna get you. 771 00:35:46,523 --> 00:35:49,673 And I don't know any other town where they say that. 772 00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:50,688 - Nope, only here. - And I know people 773 00:35:50,730 --> 00:35:52,068 across all the town. - That's right. 774 00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:53,718 Only in the hills. 775 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,308 - The hills have always been strange. 776 00:35:55,350 --> 00:35:56,733 Very strange place. 777 00:35:57,606 --> 00:35:59,328 I think the general consensus, general idea 778 00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:03,146 is that something on those ridges has always been there. 779 00:36:03,188 --> 00:36:03,979 And that's the boogeyman. 780 00:36:04,021 --> 00:36:05,572 - [Jessie] That is, that is strange. 781 00:36:05,614 --> 00:36:07,818 - Well, I mean, people don't go up there to this day. 782 00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:08,943 That's a fact. 783 00:36:09,870 --> 00:36:12,004 Young generation think it's all bull crap. 784 00:36:12,046 --> 00:36:13,458 But if you've done your homework. 785 00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:16,038 - My homework? - Yes, homework, dear. 786 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,708 The killings way back when. 787 00:36:18,750 --> 00:36:20,358 I think you need to get to the library. 788 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,248 Oh, and by the way, the cops, the cops, the FBI, 789 00:36:24,290 --> 00:36:26,538 they've had everything up there, honey. 790 00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:29,088 And nobody found anything. 791 00:36:29,130 --> 00:36:30,918 - Nope, it's supernatural. 792 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,228 - It's supernatural. 793 00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:36,108 That's right, thank you, Colleen. 794 00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:38,298 Think of the marks on the victims. 795 00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:40,070 And that ain't human. 796 00:36:40,112 --> 00:36:42,430 Here to cleanse our sins, 797 00:36:42,472 --> 00:36:45,498 but we are naive. - Cleanse our sins. 798 00:36:45,540 --> 00:36:46,833 - Mostly women so far. 799 00:36:47,730 --> 00:36:49,548 I don't seem to care about men get up. 800 00:36:49,590 --> 00:36:50,628 - Cleanse our sins, that's right. 801 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:52,248 That's what my gramps used to say. 802 00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:54,468 - And we all know about since Sarah O'Reilly- 803 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:57,558 - Oh, Jennifer, no, don't! - Sarah O, sorry, 804 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,272 what do you mean by that? 805 00:36:59,314 --> 00:37:00,108 - About what? 806 00:37:00,150 --> 00:37:02,058 - [Jessie] About Sarah O'Reilly and, and her sins. 807 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,783 - Oh, nothing, don't mind me. 808 00:37:04,825 --> 00:37:06,231 Okay, I didn't say anything. 809 00:37:06,273 --> 00:37:07,458 - [Jessie] What do you think about it? 810 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,158 Excuse me, um, Kandy, is that, is that your name? 811 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,423 - I don't know. - You don't know? 812 00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:16,189 - Stop trying to get me involved. 813 00:37:16,231 --> 00:37:19,524 - Oh, come on, you know it, right? 814 00:37:19,566 --> 00:37:21,228 Oh, can I take a piece of apple pie? 815 00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:22,534 Thanks, Candy. 816 00:37:22,576 --> 00:37:24,888 (people chattering) 817 00:37:24,930 --> 00:37:25,725 - [Jessie] Really, thank you so much. 818 00:37:25,767 --> 00:37:28,488 - But I hope we've been some assistance. 819 00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:30,078 I mean that. 820 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,728 Hey, if you want a real ride, 821 00:37:31,770 --> 00:37:33,828 you should try the lady. 822 00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:35,403 Fortune teller Mystic Hannah, 823 00:37:36,270 --> 00:37:38,838 she'll tell you some real crazy theories. 824 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,918 - Yeah, she's down by the garage. 825 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:40,885 She has a, yeah, 826 00:37:40,927 --> 00:37:44,748 she has a weird old practice down by the garage. (laughs) 827 00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:46,746 Go see her if you want a good job. 828 00:37:46,788 --> 00:37:48,738 - [Jessie] Okay, I, well, thank you ladies so much 829 00:37:48,780 --> 00:37:51,648 for your time, I just have one last question. 830 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:54,416 Are you scared at all of the boogeyman? 831 00:37:54,458 --> 00:37:56,828 You know, that he might come after you. 832 00:37:56,870 --> 00:38:01,578 - Honey, when you get to my age, nothing scares you anymore. 833 00:38:01,620 --> 00:38:05,977 So many sins, they'd have to kill me three times over. 834 00:38:06,019 --> 00:38:11,019 (both laugh) (people chattering) 835 00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:12,738 - [Jessie] Meeting the ladies in the cafe 836 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:14,898 shed some new light on what the town's perception was 837 00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:16,578 in regards to the boogeyman. 838 00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:18,798 It also tied in with what Maisie Winters said, 839 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,478 and that voice that spoke to her. 840 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,948 This idea that the boogeyman is here 841 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:25,398 in this town should cleanse sins via punishment. 842 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,218 I decided to interview passers by in the town 843 00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:28,998 to try and get an idea of what they thought 844 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,706 the boogeyman was to them. 845 00:38:30,748 --> 00:38:33,138 - Yeah, well, that's probably what's killing them, 846 00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,878 that or a cougar. 847 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,518 My mom used to say to me when I was younger, 848 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,915 be a good girl or the boogeyman- 849 00:38:38,957 --> 00:38:40,728 - [Jessie] Or the boogeyman will come and get you. 850 00:38:40,770 --> 00:38:43,368 - Yeah, exactly, the boogeyman. 851 00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:44,958 - If you are a bad girl, you know? 852 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,458 - [Jessie] The, the boogeyman will get you. 853 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:48,825 - Yeah, exactly, the boogeyman will get you. 854 00:38:48,867 --> 00:38:51,558 - But you only hear that in Mitchin or maybe nearby. 855 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:52,968 But I don't think so, 856 00:38:53,010 --> 00:38:55,728 or just like, a Yeti. 857 00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:57,288 - I mean this town's always had a lot 858 00:38:57,330 --> 00:39:00,408 of crazy things going on, you know, over the years. 859 00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:01,968 We call it the boogeyman. 860 00:39:02,010 --> 00:39:05,328 - That's probably what's killing everyone around here. 861 00:39:05,370 --> 00:39:10,370 That or the cougars. 862 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,068 - Weird shit happens there. 863 00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:14,688 You should get out while you can. 864 00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:15,521 - It's freaking me out. 865 00:39:15,563 --> 00:39:16,758 It freaks a lot of people out 866 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,468 and we're all worried and we don't know. 867 00:39:18,510 --> 00:39:19,488 We don't know what's going on. 868 00:39:19,530 --> 00:39:20,778 We don't know who's doing it. 869 00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:22,428 - The ridges are weird. 870 00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:24,756 They gotta Agent Orange that shit, man. 871 00:39:24,798 --> 00:39:25,589 (Amy laughs) 872 00:39:25,631 --> 00:39:26,422 - Yeah. 873 00:39:26,464 --> 00:39:28,668 - Don't laugh, I'm serious. 874 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:30,168 The town's weird. 875 00:39:30,210 --> 00:39:32,538 You gotta get out, get out now. 876 00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:33,558 - When talking to the locals, 877 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,758 they seem to be quite well versed 878 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,948 on the boogeyman and its legend. 879 00:39:36,990 --> 00:39:38,718 Things I still need to do. 880 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,898 Find out what Jennifer meant about Sarah O'Reilly's sins. 881 00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:44,088 Try and get an interview with the police. 882 00:39:44,130 --> 00:39:45,438 Go to the library. 883 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,538 Interview with Maisie Winters again, 884 00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:48,903 maybe not in that order. 885 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:52,218 Okay, viewers, just to give you a heads up, 886 00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:55,293 I've been to the library and I may have found something. 887 00:39:56,154 --> 00:39:58,818 In 1924, a woman was attacked in the town of Mitchin, 888 00:39:58,860 --> 00:40:00,018 but she managed to flee. 889 00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:02,658 She had strange markings all over her body. 890 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,298 Some say were similar to raccoon bites. 891 00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:07,683 The attack happened here on the ridge. 892 00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,688 Maybe I should tell the police about this. 893 00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:13,680 It could help with their investigation. 894 00:40:15,078 --> 00:40:16,173 Oh, shit. 895 00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:19,968 Another attack in 1905. 896 00:40:20,010 --> 00:40:22,403 Strange markings but there, 897 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,470 there doesn't seem to be any other correlation. 898 00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:30,104 Maybe it passed over. 899 00:40:30,146 --> 00:40:32,813 (door pounding) 900 00:40:33,738 --> 00:40:36,138 What the hell is, who the hell is that? 901 00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:38,180 Okay, I'm, I'm gonna find out who it is. 902 00:40:39,626 --> 00:40:40,946 (camera buzzing) 903 00:40:40,988 --> 00:40:43,286 (door latch clicks) (door hinge squeaks) 904 00:40:43,328 --> 00:40:44,224 - Can I come in? 905 00:40:44,266 --> 00:40:45,581 - Uh, Sarah, okay. 906 00:40:45,623 --> 00:40:47,680 Do you, do you mind if I film you? 907 00:40:47,722 --> 00:40:48,918 - No, I'm, no, I don't mind. 908 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,448 It's, yeah, yeah, I like it. 909 00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:51,438 You know, I wanna be in the movies. 910 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,590 - [Jessie] In the movies, yeah, you... 911 00:40:53,632 --> 00:40:56,178 (ominous music) 912 00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:58,818 - I was walking down main street the other night, 913 00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:00,618 which should be cordoned off or, 914 00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:02,898 or there should be a curfew or something, by the way. 915 00:41:02,940 --> 00:41:04,158 And it was dark. 916 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,748 And I, fuck, I'm certain that someone was following me. 917 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:09,935 Like, it was dark and I turned around 918 00:41:09,977 --> 00:41:13,008 and I, I'm sure that I saw a dark shadow. 919 00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:16,128 And then I went back to my house and there was, 920 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:18,348 there was someone in my yard and the dog's barking. 921 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:19,758 And I'm, fuck, I'm freaking out, guys. 922 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,095 Like, is this thing back or, I mean, 923 00:41:21,137 --> 00:41:23,478 'cause I feel like they've come back to finish 924 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,621 what they didn't finish before. 925 00:41:24,663 --> 00:41:26,298 - [Jessie] I'm, I'm so sorry 926 00:41:26,340 --> 00:41:27,940 that you had to experience that. 927 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,908 There's, there's multiple things it could be. 928 00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:35,874 - Oh, yeah, like one of them being that I'm a nut job. 929 00:41:35,916 --> 00:41:38,028 - [Jessie] No, no, not at all. 930 00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:41,988 - I know I sound crazy, but don't you think it's weird 931 00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:43,630 that Kurt Cobain died this year? 932 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:47,028 - Kurt Cobain? - Yeah. 933 00:41:47,070 --> 00:41:48,948 Not, I mean, not a Nirvana fan. 934 00:41:48,990 --> 00:41:52,458 - I like hip hop. - Life is fucking meaningless. 935 00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,833 It's just, like, given and then just fucking taken away. 936 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,018 - [Jessie] We actually, we actually meant to contact you. 937 00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:01,158 We went down to the cafe. 938 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,228 And don't get offended when I say this, 939 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:04,990 but the ladies in there said that 940 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,718 you might be a sinful person. 941 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,008 Like, you might be a sinner or something. 942 00:42:10,050 --> 00:42:11,568 I mean, it was quite, it was quite funny 943 00:42:11,610 --> 00:42:13,868 when, when it happened at the time. 944 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:15,618 But, but do you know what they may have meant by that? 945 00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:17,448 - Yeah, wow, those damn ladies. 946 00:42:17,490 --> 00:42:20,748 Honestly, I mean, they've got nothing else better 947 00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:22,155 to do than just talk shit and, 948 00:42:22,197 --> 00:42:24,498 and drink coffee in that fucking place all day. 949 00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:25,818 I mean, yeah, I know what they're on about. 950 00:42:25,860 --> 00:42:27,798 You might as well know. 951 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,788 You know the musician guy who got killed? 952 00:42:31,830 --> 00:42:33,513 - Ben Holmes, right? - Yeah. 953 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:37,188 Well, I mean, yeah, they are correct, 954 00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:40,038 it's not exactly relevant. 955 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,648 I used to go to Mazers a lot 956 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:43,698 and that's where he played guitar. 957 00:42:43,740 --> 00:42:45,648 So we started seeing each other on the regular. 958 00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:47,140 - [Jessie] Seeing each other? 959 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,968 - Yeah, seeing each other, Jessie. 960 00:42:50,010 --> 00:42:51,948 Oh, do you want me to go into more? 961 00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:53,058 - [Jessie] Oh, no, no, no, no. 962 00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,158 Sorry, I-I understand. 963 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,500 Who else knows about this? 964 00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,755 - I mean, everyone seems to be talking about it. 965 00:42:59,797 --> 00:43:02,628 You know, I broke it off before the killings, 966 00:43:02,670 --> 00:43:04,278 but everyone keeps looking at me 967 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,438 like I'm some fucking whore of the town. 968 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,543 - [Jessie] Can I ask why you broke it off? 969 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,297 - Yeah, you can, but I don't like to speak ill of the dead. 970 00:43:15,339 --> 00:43:18,408 I mean, he's just, he's just a regular musician schmuck, 971 00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:21,018 you know, if you think that I was the only girl 972 00:43:21,060 --> 00:43:24,048 that he was with, you'd be wrong. 973 00:43:24,090 --> 00:43:26,958 I mean, he was with a list of girls as long as my arm, 974 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,878 and he is not even, he's not even hot. 975 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,145 He's just from out of town and, 976 00:43:32,187 --> 00:43:33,918 and I know he's older, so like, 977 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,153 we all swooned when he played the guitar. 978 00:43:37,158 --> 00:43:39,453 And well, he, he could get us pot, so. 979 00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:42,348 - [Jessie] Do you know anyone else that he was seeing? 980 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:44,615 Like, personally or? 981 00:43:44,657 --> 00:43:46,938 - I don't, I-I'm, I mean, I don't know. 982 00:43:46,980 --> 00:43:48,738 Everything is Chinese whispers. 983 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:51,018 Why do I feel like I'm being interrogated? 984 00:43:51,060 --> 00:43:52,793 - [Jessie] Oh, what makes you think that? 985 00:43:54,810 --> 00:43:55,968 - Oh, my God. 986 00:43:56,010 --> 00:43:58,758 You think, you think that I killed him? 987 00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,988 You think that I'm... No! 988 00:44:00,030 --> 00:44:01,098 - You think that I'm one of the killers? 989 00:44:01,140 --> 00:44:02,120 - [Jessie] Sarah, I never said that. 990 00:44:02,162 --> 00:44:03,168 - Well, okay, I, wow. 991 00:44:03,210 --> 00:44:05,298 I need to get out of here, you're fucking crazy. 992 00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:06,828 Bitch, you know I had your back 993 00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:09,070 when everyone in the town was hating on you. 994 00:44:09,952 --> 00:44:11,388 And I think I came here for, for help. 995 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:12,288 I mean, can you believe that? 996 00:44:12,330 --> 00:44:13,398 Fucking help! - Sarah! 997 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,718 I do not think that, Sarah, wait. 998 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,713 Oh, fuck, fuck. 999 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,168 Okay, everybody, those two fuckers 1000 00:44:24,210 --> 00:44:27,138 aren't the only people who can get shit to camera. 1001 00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:28,083 So here I am. 1002 00:44:32,820 --> 00:44:33,798 Okay, there is, 1003 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,513 there is definitely somebody following me here. 1004 00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:38,283 There's no doubt. 1005 00:44:39,201 --> 00:44:42,368 (footsteps crunching) 1006 00:44:43,278 --> 00:44:46,908 Okay, I've deliberately taken you around the ridges, 1007 00:44:46,950 --> 00:44:49,788 try and lure whatever it is that's following me here. 1008 00:44:49,830 --> 00:44:51,768 I assume it's home territory. 1009 00:44:51,810 --> 00:44:53,208 I am not scared! 1010 00:44:53,250 --> 00:44:55,417 Do you hear me? (gasping) 1011 00:44:55,459 --> 00:44:57,609 (Sarah screams) 1012 00:44:57,651 --> 00:45:00,401 (camera buzzing) 1013 00:45:01,642 --> 00:45:05,475 (Sarah whimpering and crying) 1014 00:45:16,277 --> 00:45:19,027 (knife stabbing) 1015 00:45:27,197 --> 00:45:30,780 (murderer breathes deeply) 1016 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:35,810 - [Jessie] This project, this place 1017 00:45:36,890 --> 00:45:39,798 is something that strikes a personal chord. 1018 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,540 I'm not just doing it to get away. 1019 00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:45,948 When I was nine years old, my cousin went missing. 1020 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:48,108 She was riding on her tricycle on the front lawn 1021 00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:51,423 and all of a sudden vanished. 1022 00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:54,727 I know you shouldn't have family favorites, 1023 00:45:54,769 --> 00:45:57,453 but, but she was just the cutest little thing. 1024 00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:00,738 We searched and searched 1025 00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:03,528 until they found her body half a mile away. 1026 00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:05,628 It's never been concluded what exactly happened to her, 1027 00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:08,598 but an autopsy stated that she had been hit 1028 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,818 by a large moving vehicle. 1029 00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:12,810 This is what the injuries aligned with. 1030 00:46:13,915 --> 00:46:16,608 It was as if the body was just taken there to dump it, 1031 00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:18,948 maybe a hit and run. 1032 00:46:18,990 --> 00:46:22,385 They tried to dispose of the evidence and got scared. 1033 00:46:22,427 --> 00:46:24,258 I don't know. 1034 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:25,698 I just want these sick fucks to realize 1035 00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:27,468 that they won't get away with it. 1036 00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:29,688 The truth will always come out. 1037 00:46:29,730 --> 00:46:31,518 In this mean world, it's always the vulnerable 1038 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,603 that get hurt first. 1039 00:46:35,328 --> 00:46:38,411 (intense rock music) 1040 00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:57,978 What I was saying about the potential 1041 00:46:58,020 --> 00:47:00,618 of there being two murderers is an interesting concept 1042 00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:02,868 and one that should not be overlooked. 1043 00:47:02,910 --> 00:47:04,008 One thing that is sure enough 1044 00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:05,538 is that the more I delve into this, 1045 00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:07,180 the more complicated it becomes. 1046 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,398 I've decided to go to the police with excerpts 1047 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,548 that I found about a similar case dating back a century. 1048 00:47:13,590 --> 00:47:16,458 Honestly, it's as if this is some kind of tradition. 1049 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:18,078 Why though is it only this decade 1050 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,703 that it has become so prevalent, so violent? 1051 00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:23,988 Maisie Winters has helpfully agreed to do another interview, 1052 00:47:24,030 --> 00:47:27,005 which I will also do once we hit the cops with this. 1053 00:47:27,047 --> 00:47:30,130 (intense rock music) 1054 00:47:32,454 --> 00:47:33,287 Sir, sir. 1055 00:47:34,686 --> 00:47:36,310 - Thank you, sheriff. - Okay. Yeah, no problem. 1056 00:47:36,352 --> 00:47:37,710 - Okay. - Good, good, thank you. 1057 00:47:39,122 --> 00:47:42,228 Oh my, what did I tell you people? 1058 00:47:42,270 --> 00:47:43,518 Get the hell out of here 1059 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,439 before I have to drag you out. 1060 00:47:45,481 --> 00:47:46,848 - [Jessie] I just need two minutes of your time, okay? 1061 00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:49,228 I have some information that might be relevant to the case. 1062 00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:53,271 - What, what could you possibly have to show me young lady? 1063 00:47:53,313 --> 00:47:54,378 - [Jessie] If you could just take a look at these, sir. 1064 00:47:54,420 --> 00:47:56,958 They're similar cases recorded from years ago. 1065 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,695 One from the '20s and one from the 19th century. 1066 00:47:59,737 --> 00:48:03,513 - How could they possibly be related, huh? 1067 00:48:05,070 --> 00:48:07,473 Give it, now, get out of here. 1068 00:48:08,340 --> 00:48:11,268 I'll hand it over to homicide. 1069 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:12,978 It's all external now. 1070 00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:14,118 - [Jessie] Thank you. 1071 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,598 - You be careful though, where you go around, 1072 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,863 homicide may come and find you instead. 1073 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,548 - [Jessie] Hey, everyone, as Thomas isn't with us anymore, 1074 00:48:25,590 --> 00:48:27,858 my sister has come to help out for the day. 1075 00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:29,478 - Hey, guys. - Are you excited? 1076 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,098 - Yeah, I can't wait. 1077 00:48:31,140 --> 00:48:32,644 Where do I put all the tapes? 1078 00:48:32,686 --> 00:48:34,389 - [Jessie] In the box. 1079 00:48:34,431 --> 00:48:37,098 (ominous music) 1080 00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:44,268 Thank you for joining us today. 1081 00:48:44,310 --> 00:48:45,858 - That's no problem. 1082 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:47,628 Oh, do you know where this is gonna be shown yet? 1083 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:49,737 Like on ABC or something? 1084 00:48:49,779 --> 00:48:50,778 - [Jessie] I don't know, we're, we're definitely trying 1085 00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:51,708 to get more traction with it, 1086 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:53,531 that's for sure. - Oh, okay. 1087 00:48:53,573 --> 00:48:56,628 Oh, don't mind me if my beeper goes off, my pager. 1088 00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:59,028 My parents got it for me for safety. 1089 00:48:59,070 --> 00:49:01,338 - [Jessie] Yeah, no, of course, it's absolutely fine. 1090 00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:02,171 - Yeah. 1091 00:49:02,213 --> 00:49:04,908 So what do you guys wanna ask me this time? 1092 00:49:04,950 --> 00:49:06,708 - Well, we, we basically just wanted 1093 00:49:06,750 --> 00:49:09,138 to ask you about the legend of the boogeyman itself. 1094 00:49:09,180 --> 00:49:10,698 You know, and since you're the first one 1095 00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:12,468 who brought our attention to it. 1096 00:49:12,510 --> 00:49:14,268 And just specifically 1097 00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:17,418 what your attacker actually said to you. 1098 00:49:17,460 --> 00:49:18,618 - Right. - We, we were talking 1099 00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:20,868 to one of the ladies down at the cafe, Jennifer, 1100 00:49:20,910 --> 00:49:22,698 and Rochelle's brother, Drayse. 1101 00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:24,108 - Well, first of all, Drayse is a psycho, 1102 00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:25,908 so I wouldn't listen to anything that he says. 1103 00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:27,141 I should know, I went to school with the guy. 1104 00:49:27,183 --> 00:49:28,608 - [Jessie] The, the local school? 1105 00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:29,441 - Yeah, Maryland. 1106 00:49:29,483 --> 00:49:31,218 Total shithole. 1107 00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:33,318 But anyway, like I was saying before, 1108 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,568 nobody really knows where the legend came from. 1109 00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:37,758 It's just one of those things where people say 1110 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,758 there's the boogeyman and it's gonna punish you 1111 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,853 for your sins or if you've sinned too much, or whatever. 1112 00:49:43,895 --> 00:49:44,868 But just like everything else 1113 00:49:44,910 --> 00:49:47,410 that people say in this town is probably bullshit. 1114 00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,928 - [Jessie] We also wanted to ask you about the ridges. 1115 00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:53,868 See, all the attacks just seem to happen on the one side. 1116 00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:54,828 - I know. 1117 00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:55,788 - [Jessie] Don't you think it's strange 1118 00:49:55,830 --> 00:49:57,730 that nobody's, like, tried to do more? 1119 00:49:58,595 --> 00:50:00,558 - What do you mean more? 1120 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,438 I mean it's, it's always been cordoned off. 1121 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,718 They've had curfews, FBI dogs, the works. 1122 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,398 I mean, whoever's doing up shit up there 1123 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,377 probably doesn't live there. 1124 00:50:08,419 --> 00:50:09,210 (camera buzzing) 1125 00:50:09,252 --> 00:50:10,788 - [Jessie] Well, except for Bruce. 1126 00:50:10,830 --> 00:50:11,988 Do you think he might know anything more 1127 00:50:12,030 --> 00:50:13,338 about the logistics of the killings 1128 00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:14,751 even if he's not the killer? 1129 00:50:14,793 --> 00:50:17,543 - I don't know, I mean, you'd have to ask him yourself. 1130 00:50:18,611 --> 00:50:21,111 (pager beeps) 1131 00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:25,158 Shit, my parents only beep like this when it's serious. 1132 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,473 Does that TV work? 1133 00:50:26,515 --> 00:50:27,883 - Yeah, it should. - Can we turn it on? 1134 00:50:27,925 --> 00:50:29,151 We need to watch the news. 1135 00:50:29,193 --> 00:50:31,428 - Okay. - No, not that channel. 1136 00:50:31,470 --> 00:50:33,383 We need a, a local news. 1137 00:50:33,425 --> 00:50:34,216 (camera buzzing) 1138 00:50:34,258 --> 00:50:35,492 - [Reporter] From the town of Mitchin. 1139 00:50:35,534 --> 00:50:36,948 A young woman has been found murdered 1140 00:50:36,990 --> 00:50:38,812 near the center of the town. 1141 00:50:38,854 --> 00:50:40,518 The town has confirmed that the victim 1142 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,078 is a woman in her '20s. 1143 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,508 Sarah O'Reilly. - Oh, my God. 1144 00:50:44,550 --> 00:50:45,341 - [Reporter] This is not the first- 1145 00:50:45,383 --> 00:50:46,174 - No! 1146 00:50:46,216 --> 00:50:47,501 - God, she warned us about this. 1147 00:50:47,543 --> 00:50:48,585 - [Reporter] Being another homicide 1148 00:50:48,627 --> 00:50:49,418 in February. - I can't believe 1149 00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:50,251 this is happening. 1150 00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:52,998 - [Reporter] Not to mention the cases four years prior. 1151 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,448 Daniel, what on earth is going on in that town? 1152 00:50:56,490 --> 00:50:57,738 - [Daniel] Good question, Cassie. 1153 00:50:57,780 --> 00:50:58,908 I don't know what's stranger? 1154 00:50:58,950 --> 00:51:01,158 The murders or the authorities' lack of ability 1155 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,178 to put a halt to it. 1156 00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:03,378 I'm wondering if the local police 1157 00:51:03,420 --> 00:51:05,252 are incompetent or indifferent. 1158 00:51:05,294 --> 00:51:06,974 - Oh, shit. 1159 00:51:07,016 --> 00:51:08,883 Camera's running out of battery. 1160 00:51:08,925 --> 00:51:10,230 We need to put it on something. 1161 00:51:10,272 --> 00:51:11,063 - Okay, I'll recharge. 1162 00:51:11,105 --> 00:51:12,108 - [Daniel] Has made it clear 1163 00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:14,358 that law enforcement agencies are not required 1164 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,458 to provide protection to the citizens 1165 00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,100 who are forced to pay the police for their services. 1166 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,753 - Is it on? 1167 00:51:25,710 --> 00:51:27,147 - Yeah, all good. 1168 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,743 Do you think we should go outside, see what's going on? 1169 00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:41,148 - I mean, that's not really advisable. 1170 00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:43,608 They'll already have an emergency curfew on and no offense, 1171 00:51:43,650 --> 00:51:45,738 but if they see you walking around with that camera kit, 1172 00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:47,155 they'll kick you out of Mitchin for good. 1173 00:51:47,197 --> 00:51:49,728 You know, I reckon you should just stay here. 1174 00:51:49,770 --> 00:51:51,828 If it's okay with you, I might stay here 1175 00:51:51,870 --> 00:51:53,148 until I get another beat, 1176 00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:54,468 because it might not be safe out there. 1177 00:51:54,510 --> 00:51:57,138 - Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, you can stay. 1178 00:51:57,180 --> 00:51:58,728 - Cool. 1179 00:51:58,770 --> 00:52:01,698 Well, hopefully this will all get sorted out soon. 1180 00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:05,718 But in the meantime, I come bearing gifts. 1181 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,098 Do you guys smoke? 1182 00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:08,523 - Very occasionally. 1183 00:52:09,570 --> 00:52:10,548 - Do you think that's a good idea 1184 00:52:10,590 --> 00:52:12,153 with all the, the cops around? 1185 00:52:13,366 --> 00:52:15,004 - I'm sure they have bigger things to worry about 1186 00:52:15,046 --> 00:52:16,935 than a little bit of pot. 1187 00:52:16,977 --> 00:52:18,918 I, I don't know about you guys, but I'm, 1188 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,314 now, this whole thing's making me really anxious. 1189 00:52:21,356 --> 00:52:22,548 So, and this is basically the only thing 1190 00:52:22,590 --> 00:52:24,468 that stops me from losing it. 1191 00:52:24,510 --> 00:52:26,508 We'd have to turn the camera off though. 1192 00:52:26,550 --> 00:52:28,503 - Oh, yeah, sure. 1193 00:52:33,450 --> 00:52:35,118 Okay, it's off. 1194 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,493 Okay, well, in that case, here we go. 1195 00:52:39,958 --> 00:52:41,212 (lighter clicks) 1196 00:52:41,254 --> 00:52:44,421 Mm. (exhales sharply) 1197 00:52:45,807 --> 00:52:46,640 So good. 1198 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,038 Are you sure you don't want some? 1199 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,598 - Yeah, no, I'm, I'm good. 1200 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,490 Thank you though. 1201 00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:55,053 - More for us. - Nice. 1202 00:52:56,310 --> 00:52:58,878 - So how do you guys like s-save all that shit, 1203 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,420 you know, the tapes and stuff? 1204 00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:04,548 - Well, I know, we basically make sure 1205 00:53:04,590 --> 00:53:07,278 that we have enough tapes to always go round, 1206 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,448 you know, in case you run out. 1207 00:53:08,490 --> 00:53:10,574 And we keep them in that box over there. 1208 00:53:10,616 --> 00:53:12,320 (Maisie laughs) And well, the same goes for batteries. 1209 00:53:12,362 --> 00:53:15,693 You know, you gotta, you gotta have batteries. 1210 00:53:18,450 --> 00:53:20,688 - Oh, my God, do you know what I wonder? 1211 00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:22,249 - Whoa! 1212 00:53:22,291 --> 00:53:24,408 That's, that's quite a strong grip you have there. 1213 00:53:24,450 --> 00:53:27,365 - Yeah, I mean, I used to play shot put in school. 1214 00:53:27,407 --> 00:53:29,081 (Maisie laughs) 1215 00:53:29,123 --> 00:53:30,078 You know, I wonder, 1216 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,288 what is the world gonna be like in the next millennia, 1217 00:53:33,330 --> 00:53:35,328 in the, in the, in the next century? 1218 00:53:35,370 --> 00:53:38,103 - Well, um, that can't be any worse than this, right? 1219 00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:40,791 - No, but seriously, like, I really hope 1220 00:53:40,833 --> 00:53:44,328 that we're all just so busy with our flying cars 1221 00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:47,695 and our skateboards from that, what's that film called? 1222 00:53:47,737 --> 00:53:48,678 - "Back to the Future?" 1223 00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,538 - It's the fucking one, "Back to the Future." 1224 00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:52,698 I love that film. So like, I hope we're all just super busy 1225 00:53:52,740 --> 00:53:54,798 with our flying cars and skateboards, 1226 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,998 or too busy to fight, 1227 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,684 and hopefully there'll be no wars, you know, and stuff. 1228 00:53:58,726 --> 00:53:59,752 - Yeah, I know. - We've gotta get there. 1229 00:53:59,794 --> 00:54:01,668 - No prejudice, opportunity for all. 1230 00:54:01,710 --> 00:54:03,408 - Yeah. - Ozone layer. 1231 00:54:03,450 --> 00:54:04,848 - Oh, my God, have you heard of Waco 1232 00:54:04,890 --> 00:54:07,188 or Wacko, whatever it is? 1233 00:54:07,230 --> 00:54:09,208 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have. 1234 00:54:09,250 --> 00:54:11,542 - Mm, interesting. 1235 00:54:11,584 --> 00:54:12,375 Oh! 1236 00:54:12,417 --> 00:54:15,292 (pager beeps) 1237 00:54:15,334 --> 00:54:18,281 Okay, no curfew's been called 1238 00:54:18,323 --> 00:54:21,918 so I should be getting home before it gets dark. 1239 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,798 I suggest you guys get your groceries before they, 1240 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,598 'cause they will call a curfew, so. 1241 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,473 - Oh, thank you. 1242 00:54:28,670 --> 00:54:31,428 - I, I hope I've been helpful. 1243 00:54:31,470 --> 00:54:32,508 If you have any more questions, 1244 00:54:32,550 --> 00:54:34,021 just, call me. - Yeah, will do. 1245 00:54:34,063 --> 00:54:36,168 Thank you, thank you so much, Maisie. 1246 00:54:36,210 --> 00:54:37,574 - No problem. - Thank you. 1247 00:54:37,616 --> 00:54:39,138 - You can keep that. 1248 00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:43,308 - So it's been a day since the murder of Sarah O'Reilly 1249 00:54:43,350 --> 00:54:46,278 and honestly, I'm just still trying 1250 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,118 to get my head around it. 1251 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,078 I mean, obviously I can't shake this feeling of guilt. 1252 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,838 She, she came to me asking for help 1253 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,443 and I-I didn't help her. 1254 00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:02,328 Anyway, the, the police have, they've been informed 1255 00:55:02,370 --> 00:55:05,478 that she was in touch with me, obviously prior to this. 1256 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,008 And I'm trying to be as cooperative as I can. 1257 00:55:10,050 --> 00:55:11,118 They asked for all of the footage 1258 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,198 from her interview with me, 1259 00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:15,318 and now I have to stay in Mitchin indefinitely, 1260 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,260 in case I'm called in for questioning. 1261 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,893 Honestly, it's as if I'm a suspect. 1262 00:55:21,630 --> 00:55:23,898 Sarah's parents won't talk to me 1263 00:55:23,940 --> 00:55:25,940 and apparently they want me out of town. 1264 00:55:27,210 --> 00:55:29,178 I don't know, it just feels like since I got here trying 1265 00:55:29,220 --> 00:55:30,648 to resolve a murder, I've ended up 1266 00:55:30,690 --> 00:55:32,883 making way more enemies than friends. 1267 00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:37,338 I just, I don't understand how anyone could think 1268 00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:38,838 I have anything to do with a murder 1269 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,818 that happened before I even got here. 1270 00:55:40,860 --> 00:55:42,260 I mean, I don't know. 1271 00:55:50,266 --> 00:55:51,545 (gentle piano music) 1272 00:55:51,587 --> 00:55:54,035 - I know I sound crazy. 1273 00:55:54,077 --> 00:55:56,358 (gentle piano music) 1274 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,868 So like, are we gonna be on, like, TV or? 1275 00:55:59,910 --> 00:56:01,788 Life is fucking meaningless. 1276 00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:05,427 It's just, like, given and then just fucking taken away. 1277 00:56:05,469 --> 00:56:08,552 (gentle piano music) 1278 00:56:10,647 --> 00:56:13,814 (gentle guitar music) 1279 00:56:15,767 --> 00:56:17,718 - So the police are now actually also saying 1280 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,238 that I'm not allowed to interview anyone anymore. 1281 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,908 Obviously, I don't think they have the power to do this. 1282 00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:24,048 They don't have the power to do it. 1283 00:56:24,090 --> 00:56:27,798 And I will still be carrying out the interviews. 1284 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,788 The next one, however, I am pretty hesitant about. 1285 00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:33,108 It's with this woman that Jennifer 1286 00:56:33,150 --> 00:56:36,033 from the cafe recommended, Mystic Hannah. 1287 00:56:37,290 --> 00:56:38,988 I don't know, I'm obviously still gonna do it, 1288 00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:41,748 but it's probably more just to humor myself 1289 00:56:41,790 --> 00:56:44,043 and add some dimension to the documentary. 1290 00:56:45,166 --> 00:56:47,208 I'm, I'm, I'm just gonna try 1291 00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:49,818 and interview as many people as possible 1292 00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:52,128 before the police literally out me from here. 1293 00:56:52,170 --> 00:56:54,738 I mean, I seem to be the only outlaw that anyone 1294 00:56:54,780 --> 00:56:57,858 is actually interested in prosecuting. (chuckles) 1295 00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:59,238 I also finally, 1296 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,788 after many, many, many attempts in the phone book, 1297 00:57:01,830 --> 00:57:04,548 I finally managed to get through to that musician's mother. 1298 00:57:04,590 --> 00:57:06,558 She doesn't actually live in Mitchin, 1299 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,968 but she's agreed to do an interview 1300 00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:10,158 at a confidential and neutral location. 1301 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,008 So I'm, I'm really hopeful that she's gonna help me, 1302 00:57:13,050 --> 00:57:16,548 you know, unpick the events of that day in 1990 1303 00:57:16,590 --> 00:57:19,683 and put some pieces of this convoluted puzzle back together. 1304 00:57:20,777 --> 00:57:24,027 (melodic guitar music) 1305 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,107 (ominous music) 1306 00:57:48,629 --> 00:57:50,298 Ms. Holmes, thank you so much for coming to the interview. 1307 00:57:50,340 --> 00:57:51,918 I really appreciate it. 1308 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,368 - Thank you. - If I could just ask you, 1309 00:57:55,410 --> 00:57:58,728 in relation to Ben's murder, do you have any idea 1310 00:57:58,770 --> 00:58:01,548 who may or may not have been involved with it? 1311 00:58:01,590 --> 00:58:04,293 - To be honest, nobody does. 1312 00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:07,293 Sorry, is, is that a, 1313 00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:10,188 am I answering these correctly? 1314 00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:11,148 - [Jessie] Oh, absolutely fine. 1315 00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:13,608 There are no right or wrong answers here. 1316 00:58:13,650 --> 00:58:15,978 I should also say, if you wanna stop at any time, 1317 00:58:16,020 --> 00:58:17,748 that is absolutely fine, Mrs. Holmes. 1318 00:58:17,790 --> 00:58:20,433 - Oh, you can call me Cassie, yeah. 1319 00:58:21,780 --> 00:58:25,960 Well, we've been trying to understand 1320 00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:30,573 to ascertain why our child was killed. 1321 00:58:31,950 --> 00:58:33,018 He was from out of town, 1322 00:58:33,060 --> 00:58:35,838 but he obviously had a connection with Mitchin 1323 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,628 due to his work and the people there. 1324 00:58:38,670 --> 00:58:40,908 - [Jessie] Would you, would you say he was close 1325 00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:42,935 with the people in Mitchin? 1326 00:58:42,977 --> 00:58:45,277 - He was close with a lot of people, you know? 1327 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,563 It seemed my son was a good looking child. 1328 00:58:51,899 --> 00:58:53,499 He was good with the ladies too. 1329 00:58:55,020 --> 00:58:57,978 And funnily enough, I know he was seeing that girl. 1330 00:58:58,020 --> 00:58:59,628 - [Jessie] Sarah O'Reilly. 1331 00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:01,623 - Yeah, that's correct. 1332 00:59:02,670 --> 00:59:04,263 And of course, the other girl. 1333 00:59:05,149 --> 00:59:07,188 - [Jessie] The other girl? 1334 00:59:07,230 --> 00:59:10,203 Yeah, was also attacked. 1335 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,573 Maisie, her name is Maisie, it was in the papers too. 1336 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,278 - [Jessie] Your son Ben was seeing Maisie Winters? 1337 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,153 - No. 1338 00:59:21,550 --> 00:59:25,818 I, I mean, yeah, I, goddammit. 1339 00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:28,128 He would've ha-hated me talking 1340 00:59:28,170 --> 00:59:29,943 about his personal life like this. 1341 00:59:31,350 --> 00:59:33,531 - [Jessie] So does that, does that mean 1342 00:59:33,573 --> 00:59:35,398 that you haven't told anyone else about this? 1343 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,833 - Well, I did, I didn't think it was relevant. 1344 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,458 - [Jessie] Cassie, do you know if Maisie knew 1345 00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,750 that your son was also seeing Sarah O'Reilly? 1346 00:59:46,620 --> 00:59:48,789 - I don't know, I'm sorry. 1347 00:59:48,831 --> 00:59:50,958 I-I-I really don't know. 1348 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:51,791 - [Jessie] It's, it's okay. 1349 00:59:51,833 --> 00:59:53,628 One, one last question. 1350 00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:57,543 Was your son ever, ever seeing Shelley Harrison? 1351 00:59:59,490 --> 01:00:00,933 - Shelley Harrison. 1352 01:00:02,762 --> 01:00:04,788 The girl who got killed? 1353 01:00:04,830 --> 01:00:07,051 - [Jessie] Yes, that's correct. 1354 01:00:07,093 --> 01:00:08,463 - I-I don't know, Jessie. 1355 01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:11,463 I'm sorry, I-I-I don't know. 1356 01:00:12,810 --> 01:00:15,323 - [Jessie] Thank you, thank you for your time, Cassie. 1357 01:00:17,340 --> 01:00:19,329 - Hello, hello, come in, don't be shy. 1358 01:00:19,371 --> 01:00:20,448 - [Jessie] Hi, thank you, um. 1359 01:00:20,490 --> 01:00:23,358 Thank you so much for allowing us to interview you. 1360 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,538 Do you prefer Mystic Hannah or, or just Hannah or? 1361 01:00:26,580 --> 01:00:28,848 - Hannah is just fine, darling. 1362 01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:31,728 Before we get too comfortable, before we start, 1363 01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:33,348 I will need to take my fee. 1364 01:00:33,390 --> 01:00:36,378 - Your fee? - That is correct, yes. 1365 01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:38,328 For you, I can do it for $25, 1366 01:00:38,370 --> 01:00:40,068 which is a deal, let me tell you. 1367 01:00:40,110 --> 01:00:40,901 - [Jessie] I'm really sorry, 1368 01:00:40,943 --> 01:00:43,158 I think there's been some kind of mistake. 1369 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,958 When I called, it was just for an interview. 1370 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,788 I-I won't require a reading. 1371 01:00:46,830 --> 01:00:48,978 - Well, honey, the reading will be the interview. 1372 01:00:49,020 --> 01:00:52,968 I can't do it otherwise, I don't have any answers for you. 1373 01:00:53,010 --> 01:00:55,958 - [Jessie] Okay, um, I'm not really sure what I have. 1374 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,498 Do you have change? 1375 01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:59,088 - Yes, definitely, thank you. 1376 01:00:59,130 --> 01:01:01,428 Okay, lady. - Jessie. 1377 01:01:01,470 --> 01:01:02,703 - Jessie, let's begin. 1378 01:01:04,140 --> 01:01:06,348 - [Jessie] Okay, well, basically, Hannah, 1379 01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:07,488 I just wanted to ask you 1380 01:01:07,530 --> 01:01:09,903 about the recent murders in the area. 1381 01:01:11,370 --> 01:01:12,618 What you think about them 1382 01:01:12,660 --> 01:01:15,438 and who you think the murderer might be? 1383 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,258 - So you want to know who the murderer is? 1384 01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:20,958 I have been asked this question a few times. 1385 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,473 Always the same answer. 1386 01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:32,658 They're close. 1387 01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:36,363 You and a man are also close. 1388 01:01:37,260 --> 01:01:38,051 - [Jessie] Oh, what do you mean? 1389 01:01:38,093 --> 01:01:39,948 Like, like, we're close to solving the case or, 1390 01:01:39,990 --> 01:01:41,298 or close to the murderer? 1391 01:01:41,340 --> 01:01:45,258 - Strength, surprising strength. 1392 01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:46,733 - [Jessie] What do you mean by that? 1393 01:01:48,214 --> 01:01:51,828 - Um, it's, it's residual. 1394 01:01:51,870 --> 01:01:55,338 What is, the clues of what is happening. 1395 01:01:55,380 --> 01:01:57,318 You're on the right path. 1396 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,748 - [Jessie] Residual, okay. 1397 01:01:59,790 --> 01:02:01,548 - Please, I'm trying to. 1398 01:02:01,590 --> 01:02:03,573 - [Jessie] Okay, sorry, yeah, sorry. 1399 01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:09,168 - Triangles, triangles of love. 1400 01:02:09,210 --> 01:02:10,758 - [Jessie] Oh, geez. 1401 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,203 - Please don't interrupt, it's very important. 1402 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:16,833 Triangles at the, 1403 01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:22,173 two triangles once attached but now separate. 1404 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,239 You are running from one of them, and the other. 1405 01:02:27,281 --> 01:02:29,948 - [Jessie] How do you know that? 1406 01:02:33,387 --> 01:02:35,103 - The other triangle. 1407 01:02:37,290 --> 01:02:39,873 The other triangle is, 1408 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,933 is what you're looking for. 1409 01:02:48,898 --> 01:02:49,689 (glass thuds) 1410 01:02:49,731 --> 01:02:51,801 - [Jessie] Shit, Hannah, are you okay? 1411 01:02:51,843 --> 01:02:53,808 You, you look kind of shocked there. 1412 01:02:53,850 --> 01:02:55,998 - Um, I'm okay. 1413 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,088 I just need to be alone for a little while to recalibrate. 1414 01:02:59,130 --> 01:03:00,888 - [Jessie] What, what about the reading? 1415 01:03:00,930 --> 01:03:02,020 What about the other terms? 1416 01:03:02,062 --> 01:03:03,438 - Look, I'm sorry, please leave, I'm sorry. 1417 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,148 Can you, can you just turn the camera off? 1418 01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:06,018 Thank you. 1419 01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:08,838 - [Jessie] Okay, but, okay, you, you take time, 1420 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,373 time to collaborate, but maybe another time? 1421 01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:19,173 - Be careful. 1422 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:23,853 - Okay, um, 1423 01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:26,508 okay, thank you. 1424 01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:29,523 Thank you, Hannah, you too. 1425 01:03:36,930 --> 01:03:40,158 Maisie Winters, I mean there's motive, 1426 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,018 obviously nothing set in stone, 1427 01:03:42,060 --> 01:03:46,353 but the triangle, the love triangle. 1428 01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:50,508 And I keep remembering how, how Sarah said 1429 01:03:50,550 --> 01:03:52,398 that her attacker was just dragging her up the hill. 1430 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,618 And I mean, obviously initially, I just, 1431 01:03:54,660 --> 01:03:58,248 I assumed it was a guy, but now I'm just remembering 1432 01:03:58,290 --> 01:04:00,318 how strong Maisie's grip was. 1433 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,208 I mean, obviously this is just me thinking out loud. 1434 01:04:02,250 --> 01:04:07,250 Maybe, maybe I'm going crazy. (chuckles nervously) 1435 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,098 Anyway, I-I'm gonna try and go to the forest tonight. 1436 01:04:10,140 --> 01:04:11,988 I just, I need to see the area for myself. 1437 01:04:12,030 --> 01:04:13,053 I need to scan it. 1438 01:04:14,130 --> 01:04:17,283 Obviously, just being careful with the whole curfew thing. 1439 01:04:19,364 --> 01:04:21,833 I just need to see the spot where Sarah was murdered. 1440 01:04:23,070 --> 01:04:25,968 Still can't believe how accessible the bodies were, 1441 01:04:26,010 --> 01:04:29,208 especially after, after everything that's happened. 1442 01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:34,250 I mean, God, people here are just, they're just assholes. 1443 01:04:37,050 --> 01:04:38,350 No one even wants to help. 1444 01:04:43,905 --> 01:04:45,378 (door knocking) 1445 01:04:45,420 --> 01:04:47,913 Who is it? - It's the landlord. 1446 01:04:50,276 --> 01:04:51,067 (door bangs) 1447 01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:53,257 - [Jessie] Okay, okay, I'm coming, I'm coming. 1448 01:04:53,299 --> 01:04:54,621 - [Landlord] You're gonna let me in? 1449 01:04:54,663 --> 01:04:56,268 - [Jessie] Yes, I'm sorry. 1450 01:04:56,310 --> 01:04:59,148 - God, would you stop pointing that thing at me? 1451 01:04:59,190 --> 01:05:01,878 - [Jessie] Look, I'm making a documentary, sorry. 1452 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,068 - Look, you guys, you can't stay here. 1453 01:05:04,110 --> 01:05:07,308 You, you gotta leave, the heat's too much. 1454 01:05:07,350 --> 01:05:08,141 - [Jessie] Yeah, I know. 1455 01:05:08,183 --> 01:05:09,375 The cops told me the same thing, but- 1456 01:05:09,417 --> 01:05:11,898 - You got two days. - Two days? 1457 01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:14,689 - I'll return your deposit and anything I'll owe. 1458 01:05:14,731 --> 01:05:18,153 - But no, I paid. - This isn't my problem. 1459 01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:20,900 - What? Excuse... 1460 01:05:21,941 --> 01:05:23,988 Oh, my! - That's why. 1461 01:05:24,030 --> 01:05:26,531 - Okay, so I decided to come into the woods on my way home. 1462 01:05:26,573 --> 01:05:28,368 I just, I wanna see the area for myself, 1463 01:05:28,410 --> 01:05:29,988 you know, scope it out a little bit. 1464 01:05:30,030 --> 01:05:32,568 I'm gonna do a kind of patrol and, okay, 1465 01:05:32,610 --> 01:05:36,348 okay, so I'm, I'm now in the area where the police tape was. 1466 01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:39,378 I still can't believe how accessible the bodies were. 1467 01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:41,843 I'm just gonna make sure that I'm home before curfew. 1468 01:05:44,370 --> 01:05:45,270 Did you hear that? 1469 01:05:47,620 --> 01:05:50,120 Okay, I heard something, I'm gonna pan the camera. 1470 01:05:53,528 --> 01:05:55,376 - [Sheriff] That's why I got the damn shotgun. 1471 01:05:55,418 --> 01:05:56,838 (Jessie gasps) 1472 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,713 - Oh, my God. 1473 01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:01,360 They were kissing. 1474 01:06:03,939 --> 01:06:04,730 Okay, I gotta get home. 1475 01:06:04,772 --> 01:06:06,303 I've, I've gotta get home right now. 1476 01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:11,478 Guys, my tapes, my fucking tapes have been stolen 1477 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,948 and so many items have been destroyed. 1478 01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:15,498 I don't know, I don't know how someone got in here, okay? 1479 01:06:15,540 --> 01:06:17,508 They must have access, because there's been no evidence 1480 01:06:17,550 --> 01:06:18,918 of breaking and entering. 1481 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,848 Also I saw Maisie Winters talking to the sheriff. 1482 01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:23,940 And now I think that, 1483 01:06:24,870 --> 01:06:27,888 I think she might have something to do with the murders. 1484 01:06:27,930 --> 01:06:30,048 Okay, there's motive, there's a lot of things. 1485 01:06:30,090 --> 01:06:33,888 And I think it was the sheriff that set that gun up. 1486 01:06:33,930 --> 01:06:35,280 I don't think it was Bruce. 1487 01:06:42,575 --> 01:06:45,408 Maisie was asking about the tapes. 1488 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,433 Shit. 1489 01:06:53,580 --> 01:06:54,783 Rochelle Hardmann. 1490 01:06:56,202 --> 01:06:56,993 Rochelle Hardmann. 1491 01:06:57,035 --> 01:07:01,248 We, we should have been asking Ben's mother about her, 1492 01:07:01,290 --> 01:07:05,249 not Shelly, because she must have been one of the ex-lovers. 1493 01:07:05,291 --> 01:07:06,258 (Maisie clapping) 1494 01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:10,383 - She was, well done! 1495 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,858 Sorry, I hope I'm not interrupting. 1496 01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:14,808 I've got a confession to make. 1497 01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:17,358 - Maisie, I should warn you, I'm, I'm taping this. 1498 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,848 - I can get in here whenever I like. 1499 01:07:19,890 --> 01:07:20,928 You probably haven't noticed, 1500 01:07:20,970 --> 01:07:23,568 'cause you're too busy making your shit doc. 1501 01:07:23,610 --> 01:07:25,488 You see, when I saw your ad for interviews 1502 01:07:25,530 --> 01:07:28,278 for the boogeyman, I made sure that Robert, the landlord, 1503 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,348 Robbie, come out, please. 1504 01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:32,778 - Look, guys, I don't, I-I don't want any trouble. 1505 01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:33,722 I just- 1506 01:07:33,764 --> 01:07:35,755 (Jessie screams) 1507 01:07:35,797 --> 01:07:37,793 - [Robert] Shut your fucking mouth, you little bitch! 1508 01:07:39,015 --> 01:07:42,318 (Jessie screams) 1509 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,610 - Is this thing still on? 1510 01:07:45,150 --> 01:07:46,588 Where was I? 1511 01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:49,098 Yeah, I made sure that Robert, the landlord here, 1512 01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:51,828 gave you the utmost hospitality. 1513 01:07:51,870 --> 01:07:53,370 Make sure she's tied up tight. 1514 01:08:04,232 --> 01:08:07,218 (Maisie exhales sharply) 1515 01:08:07,260 --> 01:08:08,373 Thank you, darling. 1516 01:08:09,210 --> 01:08:11,808 - Am I gonna see you later? 1517 01:08:11,850 --> 01:08:15,003 - Yeah, you're gonna have to help me clean up. 1518 01:08:15,856 --> 01:08:16,689 - Okay. - Okay. 1519 01:08:20,808 --> 01:08:21,798 (Maisie sighs) 1520 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,628 God, I love that guy. 1521 01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:27,243 Poor thing, he's besotted with me, he'd do anything for me. 1522 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,158 So some of the things 1523 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,843 that you've been saying are pretty accurate. 1524 01:08:35,250 --> 01:08:37,968 Although there were two attackers, 1525 01:08:38,010 --> 01:08:40,368 I was attacked, that's for sure. 1526 01:08:40,410 --> 01:08:42,198 Although I didn't attack Shelley or Sarah. 1527 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,568 Well, first time anyway, 1528 01:08:44,610 --> 01:08:48,168 but that son of a bitch man-slut Holmes. 1529 01:08:48,210 --> 01:08:49,260 Mm, that was my work. 1530 01:08:50,250 --> 01:08:52,293 I had to stop because of the heat. 1531 01:08:55,287 --> 01:08:58,204 (Jessie shrieking) 1532 01:08:59,347 --> 01:09:02,097 (camera buzzing) 1533 01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:06,708 (Jessie speaks indistinctly) 1534 01:09:06,750 --> 01:09:08,133 What, what was that? 1535 01:09:09,540 --> 01:09:11,118 Why did I do it? 1536 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,228 I don't know. 1537 01:09:12,270 --> 01:09:14,478 Call it PTSD from my attack 1538 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,653 or just taking advantage of the situation. 1539 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,548 This fucking world thinks it can attack women 1540 01:09:19,590 --> 01:09:21,018 wherever it wants. 1541 01:09:21,060 --> 01:09:24,063 Fucking assholes, yeah, exactly. 1542 01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:29,178 So after I killed Ben, then I had to leave it, 1543 01:09:29,220 --> 01:09:30,678 four years to be precise, 1544 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,418 or the tradition of the boogeyman, 1545 01:09:32,460 --> 01:09:33,978 or so the sheriff told me. 1546 01:09:34,020 --> 01:09:36,948 It was his ancestors who starred the killings. 1547 01:09:36,990 --> 01:09:38,628 They created the boogeyman. 1548 01:09:38,670 --> 01:09:41,388 It was him who fired the shot after Sarah got away. 1549 01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:46,430 So I knew that he knew who the killer was, or is. 1550 01:09:48,330 --> 01:09:49,383 Maybe it was himself. 1551 01:09:50,250 --> 01:09:52,818 Soon the town will know that the sheriff is also dead. 1552 01:09:52,860 --> 01:09:53,958 They'll blame that one on you as well. 1553 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,908 - No. - Yeah, he was in on it. 1554 01:09:58,950 --> 01:10:00,888 He helped me cover up the killing of Ben, 1555 01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:01,745 who he was jealous of. 1556 01:10:01,787 --> 01:10:04,518 Me and the sheriff had a bit of a thing. 1557 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,298 I didn't mean to kill Ben, honestly, I didn't plan it. 1558 01:10:07,340 --> 01:10:09,798 It was more like a fucking fit of rage. 1559 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,178 And then I had to cover it up 1560 01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:13,020 and make it look like the boogeyman. 1561 01:10:22,530 --> 01:10:27,213 So here we are, four years later. 1562 01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:31,843 I killed Rochelle because I knew 1563 01:10:31,885 --> 01:10:34,068 she was seeing Ben behind my back. 1564 01:10:34,110 --> 01:10:35,748 And then I finished Sarah off, 1565 01:10:35,790 --> 01:10:38,688 'cause she was just such a fucking cunt. 1566 01:10:38,730 --> 01:10:40,968 Oh, I do wonder who attacked her first. 1567 01:10:41,010 --> 01:10:44,388 It's so weird to think there's a real boogeyman out there, 1568 01:10:44,430 --> 01:10:46,053 you know, walking around. 1569 01:10:49,020 --> 01:10:52,365 It's funny how he tried to kill me 1570 01:10:52,407 --> 01:10:55,848 and he dragged me up that hill. (grins) 1571 01:10:55,890 --> 01:10:58,518 After a while, I sort of started admiring him. 1572 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,063 Oh, I made these. 1573 01:11:01,831 --> 01:11:04,851 (Jessie screams) 1574 01:11:04,893 --> 01:11:07,319 (Maisie hushing) 1575 01:11:07,361 --> 01:11:10,908 Oh, they're so cool, you're gonna love this. 1576 01:11:10,950 --> 01:11:11,973 Here, look. 1577 01:11:13,774 --> 01:11:17,928 Look, like the claws. 1578 01:11:17,970 --> 01:11:19,970 Like Freddy fucking Krueger, am I right? 1579 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:26,240 You have been very, very bad. (laughs maniacally) 1580 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,000 Oh, you're probably wondering why I'm still filming. 1581 01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:37,203 Don't worry, it's just for me for now. 1582 01:11:39,450 --> 01:11:40,503 Okay, time to die. 1583 01:11:41,818 --> 01:11:46,818 (Jessie screams) (knife stabbing) 1584 01:11:54,392 --> 01:11:57,498 (Maisie gasping) 1585 01:11:57,540 --> 01:11:59,043 Oh, yeah. 1586 01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:05,250 (Maisie gasping) 1587 01:12:16,740 --> 01:12:19,323 Over and out. (chuckles) 1588 01:12:26,370 --> 01:12:28,278 - Two documentarians have gone missing 1589 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,928 thought to be on the run for the murder 1590 01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:33,528 of a sheriff in Mitchin, Arlin County, as well as the murder 1591 01:12:33,570 --> 01:12:35,778 of up and coming actress, Sarah O'Reilly 1592 01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:38,088 and town local Rochelle Harmon. 1593 01:12:38,130 --> 01:12:40,728 Tell me what has been your experience? 1594 01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:43,818 - Well, they asked me loads of questions 1595 01:12:43,860 --> 01:12:47,148 and they mentioned Sarah O'Reilly a lot. 1596 01:12:47,190 --> 01:12:50,628 Um, really twisted how they left the bodies out 1597 01:12:50,670 --> 01:12:52,415 in the open for everyone to see. 1598 01:12:52,457 --> 01:12:54,618 That's some fucked up shit. 1599 01:12:54,660 --> 01:12:57,588 - Now, do you think these attackers are the same attackers 1600 01:12:57,630 --> 01:12:59,793 that attacked you four years ago? 1601 01:13:01,483 --> 01:13:03,273 - I-I don't know. 1602 01:13:04,585 --> 01:13:06,135 I mean, could there be another? 1603 01:13:07,980 --> 01:13:09,828 - Could there be another? 1604 01:13:09,870 --> 01:13:11,193 Back to you in the studio. 1605 01:13:13,650 --> 01:13:14,898 - Okay, so this is totally rad, 1606 01:13:14,940 --> 01:13:17,898 but we are actually headed towards the area 1607 01:13:17,940 --> 01:13:20,568 where a few of the murders happened 1608 01:13:20,610 --> 01:13:22,188 on the news here in Mitchin. 1609 01:13:22,230 --> 01:13:24,738 So a few documentarians have been on the case already, 1610 01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:28,038 but knowing me, I wanted to get in on the action. 1611 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,798 But I have to be super careful as I am female 1612 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,288 and I don't want to bait anything. 1613 01:13:33,330 --> 01:13:36,288 If not today, maybe another day, who knows? 1614 01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:41,330 So I think the murders happened around. 1615 01:13:41,394 --> 01:13:42,558 (animal grunting) 1616 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:43,915 Oh, my God! 1617 01:13:43,957 --> 01:13:45,933 Did, did, did you guys hear that? 1618 01:13:46,770 --> 01:13:49,983 It was probably some wildlife or something. 1619 01:13:50,850 --> 01:13:52,938 Anyway, as you can see, the woodland 1620 01:13:52,980 --> 01:13:54,738 is super dense around here, 1621 01:13:54,780 --> 01:13:56,464 which definitely cooperates with- 1622 01:13:56,506 --> 01:13:57,798 (animal growling) 1623 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,048 Oh my, my God! 1624 01:14:00,090 --> 01:14:02,288 Holy, holy fuck! 1625 01:14:02,330 --> 01:14:04,160 Oh, my God, oh, my God! 1626 01:14:04,202 --> 01:14:06,119 Oh, no, please, no, no! 1627 01:14:07,299 --> 01:14:11,799 (documentarian whimpering and crying) 1628 01:14:25,694 --> 01:14:30,694 (knife stabbing) (documentarian shrieking) 1629 01:14:37,764 --> 01:14:40,431 (ominous music) 1630 01:15:07,153 --> 01:15:09,903 (camera buzzing) 1631 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,018 - Breaking news today again in Mitchin. 1632 01:15:15,060 --> 01:15:18,678 Maisie Winters has been found murdered near the town center 1633 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,708 four years after she was initially attacked. 1634 01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:26,208 Just behind me, you can see there is police tape all around. 1635 01:15:26,250 --> 01:15:28,968 There are reports saying the two documentarians 1636 01:15:29,010 --> 01:15:32,568 are still suspects, and the police have managed to capture 1637 01:15:32,610 --> 01:15:36,228 and arrest Thomas Wajowski, who vows his innocence, 1638 01:15:36,270 --> 01:15:39,918 as well as the innocence of his partner, Jessie Heigel, 1639 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,773 whom he says he hasn't seen since he left the documentary. 1640 01:15:47,289 --> 01:15:49,956 (ominous music) 1641 01:16:02,545 --> 01:16:04,128 - I'm getting involved in this project 1642 01:16:04,170 --> 01:16:06,753 for the sole purpose of clearing my sister's name. 1643 01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:09,288 Maisie Winters does not know 1644 01:16:09,330 --> 01:16:10,973 that I made copies of the tapes. 1645 01:16:23,031 --> 01:16:25,781 (camera buzzing) 1646 01:16:26,864 --> 01:16:30,114 (bright melodic music) 1647 01:17:07,321 --> 01:17:11,404 (bright melodic music continues) 1648 01:17:45,708 --> 01:17:49,375 (bright melodic music ends)