1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,375 - Tonight on The Proof is Out There. 2 00:00:03,542 --> 00:00:05,583 Is this a chupacabra making world news? 3 00:00:05,708 --> 00:00:09,667 - It appears to be a mixture of human and dog-like features, 4 00:00:09,792 --> 00:00:11,667 which is pretty darn strange. 5 00:00:11,750 --> 00:00:14,708 - [Tony] Is this the greatest UFO photo ever taken? 6 00:00:14,875 --> 00:00:17,000 - It's very rare I come across a photo 7 00:00:17,083 --> 00:00:19,208 that I can't easily explain away. 8 00:00:19,375 --> 00:00:22,333 - [Tony] Are monstrous creatures living down in the sewers? 9 00:00:22,458 --> 00:00:23,542 - You walk into creepy places at night, 10 00:00:23,708 --> 00:00:25,833 you're probably gonna run into something creepy 11 00:00:25,917 --> 00:00:27,458 and this fits the bill. 12 00:00:27,583 --> 00:00:29,917 - [Tony] And strange sounds of Mars. 13 00:00:30,042 --> 00:00:32,167 (hollow drone) (mettalic ding) 14 00:00:32,333 --> 00:00:34,500 Is this a message from an alien race? 15 00:00:34,625 --> 00:00:35,500 - There was a civilization 16 00:00:35,583 --> 00:00:38,083 that once lived there and is now extinct. 17 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:40,875 (dramatic music) 18 00:00:43,292 --> 00:00:44,958 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 19 00:00:45,042 --> 00:00:46,667 - [Witness] What the heck is this? 20 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:48,333 - [Witness] It's moving. 21 00:00:48,458 --> 00:00:51,042 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 22 00:00:51,208 --> 00:00:53,500 (electrical whirring) 23 00:00:57,208 --> 00:00:59,250 - [Marc] Is it some kind of unidentified object? 24 00:00:59,375 --> 00:01:01,333 What's exciting is nobody really knows. 25 00:01:02,333 --> 00:01:03,167 - [Tony] What are they? 26 00:01:03,333 --> 00:01:05,333 - [MJ] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 27 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:08,625 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 28 00:01:10,542 --> 00:01:12,625 - I'm Tony Harris and as a journalist 29 00:01:12,708 --> 00:01:14,167 for more than 30 years, 30 00:01:14,250 --> 00:01:17,000 I've followed the facts where they take me. 31 00:01:17,167 --> 00:01:19,375 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 32 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:21,917 to the world's strangers sounds and images. 33 00:01:23,042 --> 00:01:25,542 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 34 00:01:25,708 --> 00:01:29,000 - It's a credible case. It's a credible video. 35 00:01:29,125 --> 00:01:31,875 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 36 00:01:32,042 --> 00:01:33,792 - This video was clearly faked. 37 00:01:33,875 --> 00:01:35,875 - The proof starts now. 38 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,542 (dramatic theme music) 39 00:01:44,208 --> 00:01:47,292 Good evening and welcome to The Proof Is Out There. 40 00:01:47,375 --> 00:01:50,125 America's first zoo opened in Philadelphia 41 00:01:50,250 --> 00:01:52,875 on July 1st, 1874. 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,375 Today, there are well over 400 zoos operating in this country 43 00:01:57,542 --> 00:02:01,625 welcoming about 180 million visitors each year. 44 00:02:01,750 --> 00:02:03,583 But as you'll see in our next story, 45 00:02:03,708 --> 00:02:05,750 maybe humans are not the only ones 46 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:08,167 coming to observe what's inside. 47 00:02:09,042 --> 00:02:12,625 May 21st, 2022, Amarillo, Texas. 48 00:02:12,750 --> 00:02:14,917 (ominous music) 49 00:02:15,042 --> 00:02:18,167 It's around 1:25 AM and the zoo's security cameras 50 00:02:18,292 --> 00:02:20,917 are keeping their sleepless eyes on its animals 51 00:02:21,042 --> 00:02:23,583 when they capture this. 52 00:02:23,708 --> 00:02:26,000 A strange figure just outside the zoo's perimeter 53 00:02:26,167 --> 00:02:27,333 lurks in the darkness. 54 00:02:27,417 --> 00:02:29,000 As we push in, the figure appears 55 00:02:29,083 --> 00:02:30,292 to be standing on two legs 56 00:02:30,375 --> 00:02:33,667 just on the other side of the fence looking inside. 57 00:02:33,833 --> 00:02:35,208 Shocked by the size of the creature 58 00:02:35,375 --> 00:02:37,208 and its rather wolf-like head, 59 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:40,000 the Amarillo Zoo has begun asking the general public 60 00:02:40,125 --> 00:02:42,667 for help figuring out what this UAO, 61 00:02:42,792 --> 00:02:45,792 unidentified Amarillo object, could be. 62 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:46,708 Take another look. 63 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:49,667 This bipedal creature is quite puzzling. 64 00:02:49,792 --> 00:02:52,583 The image goes viral with thousands of people viewing it. 65 00:02:53,625 --> 00:02:55,625 Now let's take a closer look at this image. 66 00:02:55,708 --> 00:02:58,333 A lot of folks have said they can discern fur 67 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:02,167 on this thing's arms and pointed ears on its head. 68 00:03:02,250 --> 00:03:03,167 On the other hand, 69 00:03:03,292 --> 00:03:05,500 some people say it's standing like a human 70 00:03:05,625 --> 00:03:07,208 and it looks like it's wearing pants 71 00:03:07,375 --> 00:03:11,000 and they see this as a jacket. 72 00:03:11,125 --> 00:03:14,000 As for me, I have no idea. 73 00:03:14,125 --> 00:03:16,667 Field researcher Ken Gerhard cites the figure's resemblance 74 00:03:16,792 --> 00:03:19,083 to an infamous creature from folklore. 75 00:03:19,208 --> 00:03:20,208 - One of the theories 76 00:03:20,375 --> 00:03:23,375 is that it could in fact be a chupacabra, 77 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:26,333 a famous creature that has been talked about 78 00:03:26,458 --> 00:03:29,167 throughout Latin American culture since the 1990s 79 00:03:29,292 --> 00:03:32,833 and is a blood sucking type of creature. 80 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,333 The name chupacabra actually means goat sucker 81 00:03:36,458 --> 00:03:38,000 because it's been alleged that these creatures 82 00:03:38,083 --> 00:03:41,708 will drink the blood of goats and other small farm animals. 83 00:03:41,833 --> 00:03:44,792 I've examined the remains of several creatures 84 00:03:44,875 --> 00:03:46,917 that have been called chupacabras, 85 00:03:47,042 --> 00:03:48,333 and all of those animals 86 00:03:48,458 --> 00:03:51,583 displayed very dog-like features, 87 00:03:51,708 --> 00:03:57,375 pointy ears, long snouts, strange skin, long fangs, 88 00:03:57,500 --> 00:03:59,917 other physical abnormalities. 89 00:04:00,042 --> 00:04:02,167 (ominous music) 90 00:04:02,292 --> 00:04:04,458 - During a two month period in 2010, 91 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:08,167 more than 300 goats were slaughtered in rural Mexico. 92 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:11,458 Ranchers believe these deaths resulted from a chupacabra 93 00:04:11,542 --> 00:04:13,458 stalking their livestock. 94 00:04:13,542 --> 00:04:17,833 So could this image be a chupacabra stalking the zoo? 95 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,458 Our experts investigate. 96 00:04:19,542 --> 00:04:21,917 (ominous music) 97 00:04:23,792 --> 00:04:25,500 Professor of biology, Floyd Hayes, 98 00:04:25,625 --> 00:04:28,167 begins by estimating the size of the creature. 99 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:30,542 - To me, it looks like the fence itself 100 00:04:30,708 --> 00:04:31,875 may be 12 feet high. 101 00:04:32,042 --> 00:04:35,500 The animal looks like it's maybe six feet behind the fence, 102 00:04:35,625 --> 00:04:36,708 which would make it smaller. 103 00:04:36,833 --> 00:04:39,500 It appears to be about half the height of the fence. 104 00:04:39,583 --> 00:04:41,667 It's maybe about seven and a half feet tall. 105 00:04:41,833 --> 00:04:42,667 - [Tony] That's much bigger 106 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:45,000 than the alleged size of a chupacabra. 107 00:04:45,083 --> 00:04:46,000 And there's another issue. 108 00:04:46,167 --> 00:04:50,167 - The chupacabra is allegedly a quadrupedal 109 00:04:50,292 --> 00:04:51,833 or four-legged animal, 110 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:55,500 but this appears to be bipedal rather than quadrupedal. 111 00:04:55,625 --> 00:04:57,667 Bipedal means it's walking on two legs. 112 00:04:57,750 --> 00:05:00,167 - [Tony] Next, wildlife biologist Stephanie Schuttler 113 00:05:00,292 --> 00:05:01,708 examines the creature's hair. 114 00:05:01,833 --> 00:05:05,250 - Chupacabras are described as being more hairless 115 00:05:05,375 --> 00:05:07,625 with gray and scaly skin. 116 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:11,333 In this image, it seems to be more shaggy. 117 00:05:11,458 --> 00:05:14,458 It seems to have long hair, especially on top, 118 00:05:14,542 --> 00:05:17,208 so it doesn't fit the description. 119 00:05:17,333 --> 00:05:18,042 - [Tony] And even though sightings 120 00:05:18,208 --> 00:05:19,500 of the creature have been reported, 121 00:05:19,667 --> 00:05:22,667 Schuttler says the proof has yet to be discovered. 122 00:05:22,750 --> 00:05:24,542 - Any evidence of animals 123 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:26,542 that were thought to be chupacabras, 124 00:05:26,667 --> 00:05:29,500 it always ended up being a canid species 125 00:05:29,625 --> 00:05:33,250 like a coyote, dog, or fox with mange. 126 00:05:33,375 --> 00:05:36,083 - [Tony] Demodectic mange is caused by a parasitic mite 127 00:05:36,208 --> 00:05:38,667 that lives in the hair follicles of canines. 128 00:05:38,792 --> 00:05:40,083 To rid themselves of the parasites, 129 00:05:40,208 --> 00:05:43,875 canines will scratch their fur and skin until it falls off. 130 00:05:44,042 --> 00:05:45,667 But the biggest red flag of all, 131 00:05:45,792 --> 00:05:47,667 why the zoo only released one image 132 00:05:47,792 --> 00:05:49,750 of such a startling discovery. 133 00:05:49,875 --> 00:05:51,875 - Camera traps, when they're triggered, 134 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,208 they usually take multiple photos, 135 00:05:54,375 --> 00:05:57,167 so I would love to see the photos before and after. 136 00:05:57,250 --> 00:06:00,500 There's rarely a singular photo of an animal 137 00:06:00,625 --> 00:06:01,833 when the cameras are triggered. 138 00:06:01,917 --> 00:06:07,292 I suspect this was a publicity stunt by the Amarillo Zoo. 139 00:06:07,417 --> 00:06:11,083 If they really wanted to figure out what this animal was, 140 00:06:11,208 --> 00:06:13,750 there would definitely be more photos of it. 141 00:06:13,875 --> 00:06:16,167 (ominous music) 142 00:06:17,667 --> 00:06:18,792 - Now hold on a second. 143 00:06:18,875 --> 00:06:22,333 If this is a hoax, then the zoo has been keeping up 144 00:06:22,417 --> 00:06:24,417 the deception for months. 145 00:06:24,542 --> 00:06:27,417 Our verdict, unidentified creature. 146 00:06:27,542 --> 00:06:30,667 A Seattle-based company specializing in wireless cameras 147 00:06:30,750 --> 00:06:33,042 donated 80 color night vision cameras 148 00:06:33,208 --> 00:06:36,625 to the Amarillo Zoo after this image went viral. 149 00:06:36,708 --> 00:06:38,417 So should this creature reappear, 150 00:06:38,542 --> 00:06:42,167 there should be plenty of proof to determine what it is. 151 00:06:42,250 --> 00:06:43,750 (ominous music) 152 00:06:43,875 --> 00:06:46,083 Our next story goes back more than 50 years 153 00:06:46,208 --> 00:06:48,875 and despite that, wouldn't you know it? 154 00:06:49,042 --> 00:06:50,833 It's received newfound attention 155 00:06:50,958 --> 00:06:54,958 and is now being called the best UFO photo ever. 156 00:06:56,208 --> 00:06:59,833 It's September 1971 and Sergio Loaiza is flying over 157 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,833 Costa Rica's Lake Cote photographing the terrain 158 00:07:02,958 --> 00:07:04,833 for the creation of a map. 159 00:07:04,917 --> 00:07:07,292 But once he lands and begins developing the pictures, 160 00:07:07,417 --> 00:07:10,458 one snapshot captures something at 10,000 feet 161 00:07:10,583 --> 00:07:12,708 that appears to be extra terrestrial. 162 00:07:14,083 --> 00:07:16,917 Take a closer look, at the edge of the frame above the lake 163 00:07:17,042 --> 00:07:19,875 is a shiny disc like object bearing a striking resemblance 164 00:07:20,042 --> 00:07:22,167 to the quintessential flying saucer. 165 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:25,917 Sergio recalls discovering the startling object. 166 00:07:40,042 --> 00:07:41,667 - [Tony] The photo was examined by researchers 167 00:07:41,833 --> 00:07:43,167 who deemed it authentic, 168 00:07:43,292 --> 00:07:45,667 but it wasn't until 2021 when attorney 169 00:07:45,792 --> 00:07:47,958 and UFO enthusiast Esteban Carranza 170 00:07:48,042 --> 00:07:49,042 got a hold of the photo 171 00:07:49,167 --> 00:07:52,083 that the story got really interesting. 172 00:07:52,208 --> 00:07:54,917 - My uncle, he managed to obtain a copy of the negative 173 00:07:55,042 --> 00:07:58,833 and let's say, "Aha, I got a final way to produce 174 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,292 a really high quality scan." 175 00:08:01,375 --> 00:08:03,167 What it is, we don't know, 176 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:07,875 but we know it's real and that's where we need serious 177 00:08:08,042 --> 00:08:10,958 scientific and open analysis. 178 00:08:11,083 --> 00:08:12,667 - [Tony] Esteban releases the photo on Twitter 179 00:08:12,792 --> 00:08:15,500 and the internet explodes. 180 00:08:15,667 --> 00:08:17,500 According to journalist MJ Banias, 181 00:08:17,583 --> 00:08:21,167 the photo may reveal this object has extraordinary capabilities. 182 00:08:21,333 --> 00:08:22,917 - What's interesting about this photo 183 00:08:23,042 --> 00:08:27,625 is that the frame prior to this shot 184 00:08:27,750 --> 00:08:29,958 and the frame after this shot 185 00:08:30,042 --> 00:08:31,833 does not show this object. 186 00:08:31,958 --> 00:08:34,083 Some people believe that it's evidence 187 00:08:34,208 --> 00:08:37,458 that this object can cloak and become invisible. 188 00:08:37,583 --> 00:08:38,583 Some people believe 189 00:08:38,708 --> 00:08:40,500 that it's able to move incredibly quickly 190 00:08:40,583 --> 00:08:43,167 and some people believe that it's inter-dimensional 191 00:08:43,292 --> 00:08:45,583 in that it was able to leave our dimension 192 00:08:45,708 --> 00:08:47,333 and go somewhere else. 193 00:08:47,458 --> 00:08:50,042 So there's a lot of speculation around this photograph. 194 00:08:51,208 --> 00:08:54,000 - In previous episodes, we've shown you UFOs cited 195 00:08:54,083 --> 00:08:57,333 near volcanoes, as there's a belief among ufologists 196 00:08:57,417 --> 00:09:00,000 that alien craft are attracted to volcanoes 197 00:09:00,167 --> 00:09:03,417 and other high energy sites for the purpose of refueling. 198 00:09:03,542 --> 00:09:07,208 Well, this photo was taken right next to the Arenal Volcano, 199 00:09:07,375 --> 00:09:10,917 which was Costa Rica's most active until 2010. 200 00:09:11,042 --> 00:09:13,042 So could there be a connection? 201 00:09:13,167 --> 00:09:17,042 Before we spent too long on the why let's confirm the what. 202 00:09:17,208 --> 00:09:20,375 More specifically, what is this disc? 203 00:09:20,542 --> 00:09:21,667 Our experts weigh in. 204 00:09:21,792 --> 00:09:24,208 (ominous music) 205 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,833 First, we take the photo to astronomer 206 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,042 and video effects designer Marc D'Antonio. 207 00:09:30,167 --> 00:09:31,750 Despite all the recent hype, 208 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:34,375 is this simply a 50 year old hoax? 209 00:09:34,500 --> 00:09:38,000 - I've seen the photo ever since I was a young kid 210 00:09:38,125 --> 00:09:40,333 and so I know if it was hoax, 211 00:09:40,417 --> 00:09:43,042 it would have to have been done with older technology. 212 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:46,333 I don't see how it actually could have been done back then 213 00:09:46,458 --> 00:09:48,958 'cause all the attempts back then to do that 214 00:09:49,083 --> 00:09:52,417 had some giveaways that we could detect, now. 215 00:09:52,542 --> 00:09:53,708 - [Tony] If we're not calling it a hoax, 216 00:09:53,875 --> 00:09:56,750 did Sergio capture a real UFO phasing in and out 217 00:09:56,875 --> 00:09:58,125 of our dimension? 218 00:09:58,250 --> 00:10:01,083 - I looked at the way the light is hitting this thing 219 00:10:01,208 --> 00:10:04,917 and I compared it to the light hitting the trees down here. 220 00:10:05,042 --> 00:10:07,708 Look at the shadow angles. They're all the same. 221 00:10:07,833 --> 00:10:10,333 So this is the shadow angle for the sun. 222 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:14,167 Now if we go back to the UFO, this doesn't make any sense. 223 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:16,417 We wouldn't expect to see any light on this side 224 00:10:16,542 --> 00:10:17,333 at that angle. 225 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:19,333 So the lighting is entirely wrong for this 226 00:10:19,458 --> 00:10:21,500 being some type of physical object 227 00:10:21,625 --> 00:10:26,417 that is reminiscent of say UFO, entirely wrong. 228 00:10:27,458 --> 00:10:29,125 - [Tony] So if the shadows don't match, 229 00:10:29,208 --> 00:10:30,833 D'Antonio believes that rules out 230 00:10:30,958 --> 00:10:32,458 something like a piece of equipment 231 00:10:32,583 --> 00:10:34,333 that may be felt from the plane. 232 00:10:34,458 --> 00:10:36,458 But still, if the photo isn't faked, 233 00:10:36,583 --> 00:10:37,708 what does that leave us with? 234 00:10:37,833 --> 00:10:39,292 D'Antonio has a theory. 235 00:10:40,125 --> 00:10:41,875 - Aerial photographs were taken, 236 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,333 the cameras would be mounted looking down 237 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:49,958 and there might have been a glass cover over the camera 238 00:10:50,042 --> 00:10:51,333 to protect it. 239 00:10:51,417 --> 00:10:54,167 If your car gets hit by a piece of gravel from the road, 240 00:10:54,292 --> 00:10:56,500 you see that round fracture. 241 00:10:56,583 --> 00:10:58,500 - [Tony] Just like a chip in a car windshield, 242 00:10:58,583 --> 00:11:01,000 D'Antonio believes something may have struck the glass 243 00:11:01,125 --> 00:11:03,208 of the camera housing underneath the plane, 244 00:11:03,375 --> 00:11:05,458 but he admits his theory doesn't address 245 00:11:05,542 --> 00:11:07,500 one of the central mysteries in this case. 246 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:11,000 - A conical piece of glass that's been fractured 247 00:11:11,125 --> 00:11:12,792 matches this object, 248 00:11:12,875 --> 00:11:14,667 but I can't explain why they don't appear 249 00:11:14,792 --> 00:11:16,167 in the next photo frame. 250 00:11:16,292 --> 00:11:18,750 I would expect they would appear on many frames 251 00:11:18,875 --> 00:11:21,292 but only one frame and that's a mystery. 252 00:11:22,208 --> 00:11:23,958 - [Tony] Next, we turn to astrophotographer 253 00:11:24,042 --> 00:11:24,833 Andrew McCarthy. 254 00:11:24,958 --> 00:11:27,000 - The photograph in question here 255 00:11:27,125 --> 00:11:28,125 was captured at a focal length 256 00:11:28,208 --> 00:11:33,958 of about 150 millimeters, focal ratio F5.6. 257 00:11:34,042 --> 00:11:37,667 Since we know that the object was in focus 258 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:40,208 and the ground was also in focus, 259 00:11:40,333 --> 00:11:42,833 the minimal distance to that object from the plane 260 00:11:42,958 --> 00:11:46,542 had to be over 640 feet. 261 00:11:46,667 --> 00:11:47,792 So if it's something huge 262 00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:50,792 that happened to be passing under the aircraft at that time. 263 00:11:50,917 --> 00:11:52,292 - [Tony] By McCarthy's calculations, 264 00:11:52,417 --> 00:11:55,500 this object would be at a minimum, 48 feet long. 265 00:11:55,583 --> 00:11:58,167 If it's further away, it could be even bigger. 266 00:11:58,292 --> 00:12:00,833 So we have a large craft that only appears in one photo 267 00:12:00,958 --> 00:12:02,833 out of three taken seconds apart, 268 00:12:02,958 --> 00:12:06,000 meaning it must be capable of traveling at fast speeds. 269 00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:08,167 Could this simply be a conventional aircraft? 270 00:12:08,333 --> 00:12:11,000 - This was captured in 1971, 271 00:12:11,125 --> 00:12:13,958 long before any kind of drone existed. 272 00:12:14,042 --> 00:12:17,167 A helicopter or an airplane wouldn't have looked like this. 273 00:12:17,292 --> 00:12:19,167 So we can really easily rule out 274 00:12:19,333 --> 00:12:21,667 most existing aircraft at that time. 275 00:12:21,792 --> 00:12:22,708 - [Tony] For McCarthy, 276 00:12:22,833 --> 00:12:24,833 the lack of any conventional identifiable marks 277 00:12:24,958 --> 00:12:26,833 leaves him with only one conclusion. 278 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,000 - It's very rare I come across a photo 279 00:12:29,125 --> 00:12:31,167 that I can't easily explain away, 280 00:12:31,292 --> 00:12:33,250 and I think what we have here 281 00:12:33,375 --> 00:12:38,167 is a genuine unidentified flying object. 282 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:40,625 (ominous music) 283 00:12:42,792 --> 00:12:45,417 - Our verdict, genuine UFO. 284 00:12:45,542 --> 00:12:48,000 Our experts have put together some compelling theories 285 00:12:48,083 --> 00:12:50,667 and we agree it's not a chip in the glass, 286 00:12:50,792 --> 00:12:54,500 but as D'Antonio noted, if there is something real there, 287 00:12:54,667 --> 00:12:56,333 we still haven't accounted for the fact 288 00:12:56,458 --> 00:12:58,750 that the light and shadows don't match. 289 00:12:58,875 --> 00:13:03,500 Anyway, now we see why this photo is getting all the love. 290 00:13:07,250 --> 00:13:10,500 - The Mesopotamians introduced the world to sewer pipes 291 00:13:10,625 --> 00:13:13,833 around 4,000 BCE with the earliest examples found 292 00:13:13,917 --> 00:13:17,625 in the Temple of Bel at Nippur in present day Iraq. 293 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:19,750 Since then, these underground networks 294 00:13:19,875 --> 00:13:20,833 not only provide plumbing, 295 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,125 they also provide ecosystems for uncanny creatures. 296 00:13:25,208 --> 00:13:26,500 See for yourself. 297 00:13:27,417 --> 00:13:31,083 April 20th, 2022, Point Pleasant, West Virginia. 298 00:13:31,208 --> 00:13:33,292 Urban explorer Christopher Bryan Hill 299 00:13:33,375 --> 00:13:36,083 is documenting himself navigating a sewer tunnel system 300 00:13:36,208 --> 00:13:37,542 deep within the forest. 301 00:13:37,667 --> 00:13:39,500 He records an almost five mile trek 302 00:13:39,625 --> 00:13:42,167 when he comes across this. 303 00:13:42,292 --> 00:13:44,667 What looks like a glowing-eyed being emerges 304 00:13:44,792 --> 00:13:46,625 from alongside the tunnel's edge, 305 00:13:47,625 --> 00:13:49,417 the being seemingly stares at the camera. 306 00:13:49,542 --> 00:13:51,833 Then another smaller one steps further into the light, 307 00:13:51,917 --> 00:13:53,250 revealing its body. 308 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:55,583 The beings turn and flee. 309 00:13:55,708 --> 00:13:57,667 Christopher advances to where they were, 310 00:13:57,792 --> 00:14:00,500 but they've vanished deep into the darkness. 311 00:14:00,583 --> 00:14:02,417 Let's take a closer look. 312 00:14:02,542 --> 00:14:04,458 Note that when the second creature turns to run, 313 00:14:04,542 --> 00:14:06,917 its foot appears to make a splash in the water. 314 00:14:08,167 --> 00:14:11,833 - I heard what sounded like a slap, like smacking water. 315 00:14:11,917 --> 00:14:14,042 At the time I thought it was a deer. 316 00:14:14,167 --> 00:14:17,333 I really didn't think much of it until I played it back 317 00:14:17,417 --> 00:14:20,167 when I got home and I could see the outline. 318 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:21,875 - [Tony] Let's look at that being emerge 319 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,917 from the tunnel's edge again, 320 00:14:23,042 --> 00:14:25,708 the reflecting light reveals its odd body shape. 321 00:14:26,708 --> 00:14:28,083 Field researcher Cliff Barackman 322 00:14:28,208 --> 00:14:30,125 helps us understand what we just saw. 323 00:14:30,250 --> 00:14:31,667 - You walk into creepy places at night, 324 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:33,458 you're probably gonna run into something creepy 325 00:14:33,583 --> 00:14:34,833 and this fits the bill. 326 00:14:34,958 --> 00:14:37,333 It's long, it's lanky, it's the arms 327 00:14:37,417 --> 00:14:39,500 are touching the ground, it's got glowing eyes. 328 00:14:39,667 --> 00:14:40,708 - [Tony] Thousands have seen this video 329 00:14:40,833 --> 00:14:43,292 with many claiming it's proof of the lizard man 330 00:14:43,375 --> 00:14:45,667 first cited in the 1980s. 331 00:14:45,833 --> 00:14:47,417 The creature yielded a wave of newspaper, 332 00:14:47,542 --> 00:14:49,333 radio and television publicity, 333 00:14:49,417 --> 00:14:51,333 especially in South Carolina. 334 00:14:51,458 --> 00:14:52,500 - The lizard man, 335 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:55,167 it's often reported as being black and scaly 336 00:14:55,292 --> 00:14:58,000 with long claws and glowing eyes. 337 00:14:58,083 --> 00:14:59,375 One of the most famous sightings 338 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:00,833 of this so-called lizard man 339 00:15:00,958 --> 00:15:03,417 came from Bishopville, South Carolina. 340 00:15:03,542 --> 00:15:04,875 In late June of 1988, 341 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,667 a young man was driving home in the wee hours of the morning 342 00:15:08,750 --> 00:15:13,500 when he observed a seven foot tall, scaly creature in a swamp 343 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:16,917 and drew national attention and made it on the news 344 00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:18,500 with Dan Rather. 345 00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:20,833 This video, if authentic, 346 00:15:20,958 --> 00:15:25,000 shows something bipedal inside the sewers. 347 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:26,000 - [Tony] Barickman suggests 348 00:15:26,125 --> 00:15:28,625 there may be a more pedestrian explanation. 349 00:15:28,750 --> 00:15:30,667 - In the 1980s in New York City, 350 00:15:30,833 --> 00:15:33,333 a lot of people found themselves without homes. 351 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:35,208 Some of these people actually 352 00:15:35,333 --> 00:15:39,625 moved to the subterranean sewers and started living there 353 00:15:39,708 --> 00:15:43,000 and that is where the term mole people came from. 354 00:15:43,083 --> 00:15:45,458 Times are tough, maybe people are starting 355 00:15:45,542 --> 00:15:48,250 to take shelter underground there as well. 356 00:15:48,375 --> 00:15:50,333 (ominous music) 357 00:15:50,458 --> 00:15:53,417 - The mole people theory is truly heartbreaking 358 00:15:53,542 --> 00:15:56,333 and the lizard man theory is truly bizarre. 359 00:15:56,458 --> 00:15:57,625 According to the bystander 360 00:15:57,708 --> 00:16:01,417 who supposedly encountered the lizard man in 1988, 361 00:16:01,542 --> 00:16:03,708 the creature chased him down in his car, 362 00:16:03,875 --> 00:16:07,417 jumped on the roof, snapped the front fender and antenna 363 00:16:07,542 --> 00:16:09,833 and tore into the sides of the vehicle. 364 00:16:09,958 --> 00:16:12,833 Did Christopher narrowly avoid such aggression? 365 00:16:12,958 --> 00:16:15,083 Let's see what our experts have to say. 366 00:16:15,208 --> 00:16:17,500 (ominous music) 367 00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:21,083 Could the theory that these are desperate humans 368 00:16:21,208 --> 00:16:22,708 living in the sewers have legs? 369 00:16:22,833 --> 00:16:24,792 Conger says the eyes have it. 370 00:16:24,875 --> 00:16:27,000 - [Shea] These creatures look like they have 371 00:16:27,083 --> 00:16:29,875 kind of a white colored eye shine. 372 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,375 - [Tony] That white color is due to something 373 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:32,833 called the tapetum lucidum, 374 00:16:32,958 --> 00:16:34,708 which is a biologic reflector system 375 00:16:34,833 --> 00:16:35,792 that is a common feature 376 00:16:35,875 --> 00:16:38,333 in the eyes of many nocturnal vertebraes. 377 00:16:38,417 --> 00:16:42,708 - The tapetum lucidum is developed as an adaptive feature 378 00:16:42,833 --> 00:16:44,375 for dark environments. 379 00:16:44,542 --> 00:16:45,667 It actually reflects light 380 00:16:45,792 --> 00:16:48,708 and makes the environment easier to see for that animal. 381 00:16:48,833 --> 00:16:50,750 Humans don't have a tapetum lucidum, 382 00:16:50,875 --> 00:16:53,875 so I think it's very unlikely based on this footage 383 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,792 that we're looking at people. 384 00:16:55,917 --> 00:16:58,333 - [Tony] So what about that lizard man theory? 385 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:02,792 - Because reptiles are actually exothermic or cold-blooded, 386 00:17:02,875 --> 00:17:05,000 they often don't move a lot 387 00:17:05,083 --> 00:17:08,542 and spend a lot of time laying down on warm surfaces 388 00:17:08,667 --> 00:17:09,917 to regulate their body heat 389 00:17:10,042 --> 00:17:12,792 and they'd have very slow metabolisms. 390 00:17:12,875 --> 00:17:15,250 - [Tony] Conger further notes that most reptilian creatures 391 00:17:15,375 --> 00:17:16,250 walk on four legs 392 00:17:16,375 --> 00:17:18,292 due to the fact that the metabolic demands 393 00:17:18,417 --> 00:17:21,167 of walking on two legs would require more energy 394 00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:24,000 than a cold-blooded physiology can supply. 395 00:17:24,083 --> 00:17:27,042 So if it isn't human and it's unlikely that it's reptilian, 396 00:17:27,208 --> 00:17:28,083 then what is it? 397 00:17:28,208 --> 00:17:30,625 - Based on everything that I'm seeing here, 398 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:33,375 I think this is some sort of a hoax or CGI. 399 00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:36,333 - [Tony] Time to take the video to forensic video expert 400 00:17:36,458 --> 00:17:39,958 Michael Primeau to determine if this is indeed a fake. 401 00:17:40,083 --> 00:17:43,167 - When we adjust the intensities of these macro blocks, 402 00:17:43,292 --> 00:17:45,208 we can see clearly that these gradients 403 00:17:45,333 --> 00:17:48,667 around these pixel values have been smoothed. 404 00:17:48,792 --> 00:17:50,750 When we get to the point where these two eyes 405 00:17:50,875 --> 00:17:54,000 essentially travel back behind this edge, 406 00:17:54,125 --> 00:17:55,917 the compression changes completely. 407 00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:58,833 There's no smoothness to these gradients. 408 00:17:59,000 --> 00:17:59,875 The compression level 409 00:18:00,042 --> 00:18:02,000 shouldn't have changed that drastically. 410 00:18:02,125 --> 00:18:05,458 This video has been fabricated in some way, shape, or form. 411 00:18:05,583 --> 00:18:07,750 (ominous music) 412 00:18:09,667 --> 00:18:12,667 - The verdict, this is a hoax. 413 00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:16,375 While we didn't find anything hiding in the sewer this time, 414 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:20,000 the deepest urban sewage tunnel measures 551 feet 415 00:18:20,125 --> 00:18:22,958 below ground level in Hong Kong. 416 00:18:23,042 --> 00:18:25,292 So there's still plenty of exploring to do. 417 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 - Okay, picture this, 418 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:34,042 you're enjoying a westbound flight to Denver. 419 00:18:34,208 --> 00:18:36,583 You look out the window to soak in a view of the Great Lakes 420 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:39,708 when you see... something. 421 00:18:39,833 --> 00:18:42,708 And no, it's not a gremlin on the wing. 422 00:18:42,833 --> 00:18:44,542 It's even harder to explain. 423 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:50,167 October 17th, 2021, United flight 267 424 00:18:50,250 --> 00:18:52,208 is making its way from Boston, Massachusetts, 425 00:18:52,333 --> 00:18:54,250 to Denver, Colorado. 426 00:18:54,375 --> 00:18:55,875 At 8:50 AM local time, 427 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,833 the plane is about to cross over Lake Michigan 428 00:18:57,958 --> 00:18:59,667 when a passenger noticed something amiss 429 00:18:59,792 --> 00:19:01,167 in the morning sky. 430 00:19:02,167 --> 00:19:04,708 The cell phone video shows hazy fields below 431 00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:06,000 and in the center of the frame, 432 00:19:06,083 --> 00:19:09,000 a white Tic-Tac shaped object moving from left to right 433 00:19:09,083 --> 00:19:10,792 in a straight, steady path. 434 00:19:12,042 --> 00:19:14,542 Science writer Amy Teitel says it's the oblong shape 435 00:19:14,667 --> 00:19:16,583 that intrigues her the most. 436 00:19:16,708 --> 00:19:18,833 - One of the things that really jumps out in this video 437 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,708 is the shape of whatever this object is, 438 00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:24,292 that it has that kind of Tic-Tac shape 439 00:19:24,417 --> 00:19:27,708 is very reminiscent of other UAP or UFO 440 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:29,708 sightings in recent years. 441 00:19:29,833 --> 00:19:31,250 - [Tony] In fact, it's that odd shape 442 00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:33,833 that was also witnessed in what is now considered 443 00:19:33,917 --> 00:19:36,250 one of the most famous and important UFO videos 444 00:19:36,375 --> 00:19:37,375 ever recorded. 445 00:19:37,542 --> 00:19:40,667 - The first sighting came from pilot Chad Underwood, 446 00:19:40,750 --> 00:19:45,083 who was flying off the USS Nimitz on November 14th, 2004. 447 00:19:45,208 --> 00:19:48,042 What he saw was an object that he described 448 00:19:48,208 --> 00:19:50,333 as looking vaguely Tic-Tac shaped 449 00:19:50,458 --> 00:19:53,333 and he coined the term Tic-Tac UFO. 450 00:19:53,417 --> 00:19:55,375 And ever since that first sighting, 451 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:57,958 which has been released to the public from the Pentagon, 452 00:19:58,083 --> 00:19:59,750 there's been a slew of sightings 453 00:19:59,875 --> 00:20:02,250 of similarly Tic-Tac shaped UFOs. 454 00:20:04,167 --> 00:20:05,875 - [Tony] Teitel also points out that the location 455 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,917 where this video was allegedly recorded 456 00:20:08,042 --> 00:20:10,042 is in an area notorious for bizarre 457 00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:11,375 and mysterious events. 458 00:20:11,542 --> 00:20:14,958 - [Amy] The Michigan Triangle is drawn between the cities 459 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:17,500 of Luddington and Benton Harbor in Michigan 460 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:19,500 and Manitowoc in Wisconsin. 461 00:20:20,417 --> 00:20:22,708 The earliest instance of a ship disappearing 462 00:20:22,833 --> 00:20:27,458 was actually in 1891, when a schooner went across the lake 463 00:20:27,542 --> 00:20:31,167 and disappeared overnight with seven sailors on board. 464 00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:34,167 And then there was a Northwest Airlines flight 465 00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:37,375 that disappeared over Lake Michigan in 1950. 466 00:20:37,542 --> 00:20:40,167 And ever since, there have been theories 467 00:20:40,333 --> 00:20:43,542 that some disturbance or something over Lake Michigan 468 00:20:43,708 --> 00:20:46,042 causes strange things to happen. 469 00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:51,625 - So we've got the Michigan Triangle, the Bermuda Triangle, 470 00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:54,875 and there is another area known as the Alaska Triangle, 471 00:20:55,042 --> 00:20:58,500 which also lays claim to strange disappearances. 472 00:20:58,625 --> 00:20:59,833 What is it about these areas 473 00:20:59,917 --> 00:21:02,333 that wreak havoc on planes and ships? 474 00:21:02,458 --> 00:21:05,250 Some have theorized magnetic interference 475 00:21:05,375 --> 00:21:09,042 and in the case of Bermuda, even methane gas emissions 476 00:21:09,208 --> 00:21:11,000 from the ocean floor. 477 00:21:11,125 --> 00:21:13,167 But did one passenger capture a glimpse 478 00:21:13,250 --> 00:21:16,250 into the mystery surrounding the Michigan Triangle? 479 00:21:16,375 --> 00:21:18,667 We'll let our experts make the call. 480 00:21:18,792 --> 00:21:21,125 (ominous music) 481 00:21:22,875 --> 00:21:24,833 First up, physicist Matthew Szydagis 482 00:21:24,958 --> 00:21:26,250 compares the object seen in the video 483 00:21:26,375 --> 00:21:28,083 to what was seen in the Nimitz footage 484 00:21:28,208 --> 00:21:30,833 released by the Pentagon in 2020. 485 00:21:30,917 --> 00:21:32,958 - The coloration and shape, 486 00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:35,333 at least superficially appear to be similar, 487 00:21:35,458 --> 00:21:39,167 but it does not appear to exhibit any strange velocity 488 00:21:39,250 --> 00:21:42,250 or acceleration that are associated 489 00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:45,917 with the Nimitz Tic-Tac encounter 490 00:21:46,042 --> 00:21:50,458 and similar famous Navy UFO incidents. 491 00:21:50,542 --> 00:21:53,083 - [Tony] Szydagis is also warns that due to the low resolution 492 00:21:53,208 --> 00:21:56,000 and the limitations of modern digital zoom cameras, 493 00:21:56,125 --> 00:21:59,292 the object may not be exactly as it appears. 494 00:21:59,417 --> 00:22:03,000 - We cannot definitively say that the object is Tic-Tac 495 00:22:03,125 --> 00:22:04,833 or elliptically shaped 496 00:22:04,958 --> 00:22:09,042 given that we don't know whether it's even in perfect focus 497 00:22:09,208 --> 00:22:12,208 because it may not always be possible 498 00:22:12,375 --> 00:22:17,125 to have everything crystal clear with crisp edges 499 00:22:17,250 --> 00:22:19,333 in perfect focus. 500 00:22:19,417 --> 00:22:21,167 - [Tony] So if this isn't a Tic-Tac UFO, 501 00:22:21,292 --> 00:22:24,208 it may not even be Tic-Tac shaped, what is it? 502 00:22:24,333 --> 00:22:26,167 - We don't see a whole lot of detail, 503 00:22:26,292 --> 00:22:30,500 but we can surmise based on its speed 504 00:22:30,625 --> 00:22:34,000 and the potential direction that his aircraft is going, 505 00:22:34,167 --> 00:22:38,417 this was a passing by of another aircraft below them. 506 00:22:38,542 --> 00:22:40,208 - [Tony] But if it's just another aircraft, 507 00:22:40,375 --> 00:22:42,208 why doesn't it have wings, propellers, 508 00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:43,667 or any of the other standard features 509 00:22:43,792 --> 00:22:46,292 associated with any known flying machine? 510 00:22:46,417 --> 00:22:48,833 - My gut feeling is that because the resolution 511 00:22:48,917 --> 00:22:53,333 is not good and because the the wing color kind of blends in 512 00:22:53,417 --> 00:22:55,167 with the surrounding terrain, 513 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:57,000 there are some hints in the video. 514 00:22:57,125 --> 00:22:59,292 We can see a little notch below here, 515 00:22:59,417 --> 00:23:01,083 which might be part of a wing route 516 00:23:01,208 --> 00:23:02,333 of a commercial aircraft. 517 00:23:02,417 --> 00:23:06,250 So the back end could be where the tail of the plane is 518 00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:10,000 and this notch could be where the wing is coming away. 519 00:23:10,083 --> 00:23:11,375 - [Tony] So if it's just an airplane, 520 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,500 why does it look like a white Tic-Tac? 521 00:23:13,583 --> 00:23:15,542 - Many commercial aircraft are white 522 00:23:15,667 --> 00:23:18,292 and the reason they use that titanium white 523 00:23:18,375 --> 00:23:20,292 is because it reflects a lot of the sunlight back 524 00:23:20,417 --> 00:23:22,625 keeps the interior cool, climate control. 525 00:23:22,708 --> 00:23:25,333 So that is something we would expect to see. 526 00:23:25,458 --> 00:23:30,625 The wings are silver and that silver or aluminum color 527 00:23:30,708 --> 00:23:34,833 is many times not visible on days where the sun is not out. 528 00:23:34,958 --> 00:23:38,792 And this is one of those days that is somewhat overcast. 529 00:23:38,875 --> 00:23:41,458 - [Tony] But we try not to rely on hunches around here. 530 00:23:41,583 --> 00:23:43,375 So based on D'Antonio's conclusions, 531 00:23:43,542 --> 00:23:45,167 we checked out the flight data 532 00:23:45,333 --> 00:23:47,500 and there was indeed another plane, 533 00:23:47,625 --> 00:23:52,667 Delta 2474 passing United 267 in the opposite direction 534 00:23:52,750 --> 00:23:56,250 at the same time and place where this video was recorded. 535 00:23:56,375 --> 00:23:58,417 - We may not be seeing all the details. 536 00:23:58,542 --> 00:24:00,292 I don't see anything out of the ordinary 537 00:24:00,375 --> 00:24:02,292 for a passing commercial aircraft. 538 00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:04,667 (ominous music) 539 00:24:06,542 --> 00:24:07,833 - Our verdict, the evidence 540 00:24:07,917 --> 00:24:11,833 all points to the theory that this is a commercial airplane. 541 00:24:11,958 --> 00:24:15,042 It just looks like a Tic-Tac because of the camera lens, 542 00:24:15,167 --> 00:24:17,167 the sunlight and the color of the plane. 543 00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:23,708 - It's often said if you have your ear to the ground, 544 00:24:23,875 --> 00:24:25,542 you'll hear everything that people are saying and doing. 545 00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:28,167 But as you'll hear in our next piece, 546 00:24:28,333 --> 00:24:29,333 if you do that on Mars, 547 00:24:29,458 --> 00:24:32,417 you'll be confounded with a cacophony of sounds 548 00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:35,083 and mystified by their origins. 549 00:24:35,208 --> 00:24:37,917 Some people say that the origin of this next sound, 550 00:24:38,042 --> 00:24:41,792 recorded by NASA, was from a Martian civilization. 551 00:24:41,917 --> 00:24:45,375 We say it's something you've got to hear to believe. 552 00:24:46,458 --> 00:24:50,667 March 6th, 2019 around 2:00 PM local Mars time, 553 00:24:50,792 --> 00:24:53,250 the 98th Martian day or sol of the mission 554 00:24:53,375 --> 00:24:55,500 for NASA's InSight lander. 555 00:24:55,625 --> 00:24:57,958 The spacecraft is surveying its workspace. 556 00:24:58,042 --> 00:25:01,083 A camera on its robotic arm is moving and snapping pictures 557 00:25:01,208 --> 00:25:03,000 after placing a seismometer on the surface 558 00:25:03,167 --> 00:25:04,750 to study Mars quakes. 559 00:25:05,708 --> 00:25:09,167 While it finds many, it also detects this. 560 00:25:09,292 --> 00:25:10,750 First, an eerie, hollow noise 561 00:25:10,875 --> 00:25:13,500 followed by a series of dinks and donks. 562 00:25:13,625 --> 00:25:16,958 (hollow drone) (metallic dings) 563 00:25:18,917 --> 00:25:21,792 Then a howl right out of a science fiction film. 564 00:25:21,917 --> 00:25:24,000 (metallic ding) 565 00:25:25,208 --> 00:25:27,667 What could be making these strange sounds? 566 00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:30,583 George Haas is the director of the Cydonia Institute, 567 00:25:30,708 --> 00:25:33,833 which argues that ancient civilizations existed on Mars. 568 00:25:33,958 --> 00:25:36,750 - NASA's research with Mars found overwhelming evidence 569 00:25:36,875 --> 00:25:40,250 that Mars was a wet green planet, very similar to Earth, 570 00:25:40,375 --> 00:25:43,167 had water, breathable air. 571 00:25:43,292 --> 00:25:44,708 Many people think there was a civilization 572 00:25:44,875 --> 00:25:47,708 that once lived there and is now extinct. 573 00:25:47,875 --> 00:25:50,167 So perhaps we're hearing some type of signals 574 00:25:50,292 --> 00:25:53,250 being sent out from Mars from the distant past. 575 00:25:53,375 --> 00:25:55,792 Back in 1901, Nikola Tesla 576 00:25:55,875 --> 00:25:59,500 claims that he had received radio signals from Mars. 577 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:02,125 So possibly this is the remnant of that communication 578 00:26:02,208 --> 00:26:03,542 that we're hearing, now. 579 00:26:03,667 --> 00:26:07,250 (hollow drone) (metallic dings) 580 00:26:08,542 --> 00:26:11,000 - [Tony] Another possibility, and go with us for a minute, 581 00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:12,167 is that the sounds are emanating 582 00:26:12,333 --> 00:26:15,333 from within some large underground structure. 583 00:26:15,458 --> 00:26:19,417 - Some researchers believe that sound played a major role 584 00:26:19,542 --> 00:26:22,667 in the architecture in the building of the pyramids. 585 00:26:22,750 --> 00:26:24,000 - [Tony] A passage was discovered 586 00:26:24,125 --> 00:26:26,042 inside the great pyramid of Giza 587 00:26:26,208 --> 00:26:28,875 thought by some to function as an acoustic resonance tube, 588 00:26:29,042 --> 00:26:32,167 meaning it amplified sound vibrations from the air outside 589 00:26:32,333 --> 00:26:34,708 generating infrasounds that some claim 590 00:26:34,875 --> 00:26:37,000 can induce otherworldly sensations. 591 00:26:38,167 --> 00:26:39,917 Could this have been a deliberate part 592 00:26:40,042 --> 00:26:41,542 of the pyramid's design 593 00:26:41,667 --> 00:26:43,333 and could an alien race have constructed 594 00:26:43,458 --> 00:26:45,833 something similar on Mars? 595 00:26:45,917 --> 00:26:49,125 - There's no reason to think there couldn't have been 596 00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:50,875 an advanced culture on the planet 597 00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:53,417 that could produce structures that were similar. 598 00:26:53,542 --> 00:26:56,958 And what we're hearing with these odd sounds on Mars 599 00:26:57,083 --> 00:26:59,208 is the remnant of some structure 600 00:26:59,375 --> 00:27:01,333 that's been buried beneath the surface. 601 00:27:01,458 --> 00:27:04,708 (hollow drone) (metallic dings) 602 00:27:06,708 --> 00:27:08,500 - The nature of Mars' atmosphere 603 00:27:08,625 --> 00:27:11,333 means sound operates differently there. 604 00:27:11,458 --> 00:27:14,167 In fact, sound travels 100 meters per second 605 00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:17,042 slower on that planet than on earth. 606 00:27:17,167 --> 00:27:20,833 Additionally, there are two speeds of sound on Mars. 607 00:27:20,917 --> 00:27:25,708 One for high-pitched sounds and one for low pitched sounds. 608 00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:28,333 Let's see if our experts can pitch in 609 00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,667 and tell us what we're hearing here. 610 00:27:30,792 --> 00:27:32,958 (ominous music) 611 00:27:34,833 --> 00:27:36,958 First, audio forensic analyst Ed Primeau 612 00:27:37,042 --> 00:27:39,667 helps us determine if this sound could be a fake 613 00:27:39,792 --> 00:27:41,708 and he comes to a quick conclusion. 614 00:27:41,875 --> 00:27:45,333 - I found the recording in question on the NASA website, 615 00:27:45,417 --> 00:27:47,625 so I believe this is a genuine recording. 616 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,250 - [Tony] He proceeds to compare the sound 617 00:27:50,375 --> 00:27:52,375 to the first potential match, Mars quakes, 618 00:27:52,542 --> 00:27:54,625 which are frequent and well documented. 619 00:27:54,708 --> 00:27:58,458 - The frequency range on the quake is below 100 hertz 620 00:27:58,583 --> 00:27:59,958 across the board. 621 00:28:00,042 --> 00:28:03,000 (low frequency drone) 622 00:28:04,292 --> 00:28:07,292 The recording in question goes up much higher than that, 623 00:28:07,375 --> 00:28:10,667 about 400 to 1,000 hertz. 624 00:28:10,792 --> 00:28:12,708 (hollow drone) (metallic dings) 625 00:28:12,833 --> 00:28:17,250 So I can safely rule out this sound being a quake. 626 00:28:17,375 --> 00:28:19,125 - Next, physicist Matthew Szydagis 627 00:28:19,208 --> 00:28:22,375 digs into the extinct civilization signal theory. 628 00:28:22,542 --> 00:28:24,750 - Some people have hypothesized 629 00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:27,542 that this is some sort of alien we are hearing. 630 00:28:27,708 --> 00:28:30,583 However, Mars has not been 631 00:28:30,708 --> 00:28:34,333 what we would consider habitable for billions of years. 632 00:28:34,458 --> 00:28:36,875 The Martian atmosphere is extremely thin 633 00:28:37,042 --> 00:28:39,750 and it doesn't have significant quantities 634 00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:43,500 of atoms or molecules necessary for life. 635 00:28:43,625 --> 00:28:45,500 For example, oxygen, 636 00:28:45,667 --> 00:28:48,667 even if we consider life forms that don't require oxygen 637 00:28:48,750 --> 00:28:50,583 such as anaerobic bacteria, 638 00:28:50,708 --> 00:28:54,083 an advanced intelligence civilization existing on Mars 639 00:28:54,208 --> 00:28:55,500 is very unlikely. 640 00:28:55,625 --> 00:28:58,375 - [Tony] Szydagis says this also reduces the possibility 641 00:28:58,542 --> 00:29:00,667 of the sounds emanating from an ancient structure. 642 00:29:00,792 --> 00:29:03,333 It would just be too old to survive 'til now. 643 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,167 - It is possible there are structures buried 644 00:29:05,333 --> 00:29:09,458 under the surface of Mars, especially as it's a desert. 645 00:29:09,542 --> 00:29:11,750 But this just seems very farfetched to me 646 00:29:11,875 --> 00:29:14,042 and I think this is something else. 647 00:29:14,208 --> 00:29:16,917 (hollow drone) (metallic dings) 648 00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:19,458 - [Tony] So what are we hearing on Mars's surface here? 649 00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:21,500 NASA geologist Dr. Bob Anderson, 650 00:29:21,583 --> 00:29:24,458 who actually works on the Mars missions, has a theory. 651 00:29:24,583 --> 00:29:25,875 He thinks the sound was made 652 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,167 by NASA's InSight Mars Lander itself. 653 00:29:28,250 --> 00:29:31,292 - Because of the high technology of the seismometer, 654 00:29:31,375 --> 00:29:33,750 that's what we're actually picking up here. 655 00:29:33,875 --> 00:29:37,500 The vibration of the arm moving, wind blowing the sand around, 656 00:29:37,583 --> 00:29:41,875 the vibration of those particles pushing across the soil. 657 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,042 That's what you're hearing in this recording. 658 00:29:44,208 --> 00:29:46,458 (hollow drone) (metallic dings) 659 00:29:46,583 --> 00:29:48,875 (ominous music) 660 00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:52,625 - Our verdict, wind 661 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:55,667 and the movement of the spacecraft itself. 662 00:29:55,833 --> 00:29:58,792 While this NASA mission has provided great data 663 00:29:58,875 --> 00:30:02,250 for scientists and even greater fodder for ufologists, 664 00:30:02,375 --> 00:30:04,000 it is expected to cease functioning 665 00:30:04,083 --> 00:30:05,417 by the end of the year, 666 00:30:05,542 --> 00:30:06,667 but not us. 667 00:30:06,792 --> 00:30:10,458 We'll keep an eye and an ear and a seismometer out 668 00:30:10,542 --> 00:30:12,750 for any more Martian discoveries. 669 00:30:16,542 --> 00:30:19,833 - Brain surgery is famously complicated, right? 670 00:30:19,958 --> 00:30:22,167 Something only modern science could pull off. 671 00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:23,375 But as you're about to see, 672 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:25,167 it looks like some ancient societies 673 00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:30,375 may have something to teach us about how to operate in here. 674 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:34,000 It's February 2022 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. 675 00:30:34,125 --> 00:30:37,167 The Museum of Osteology, also known as the Bones Museum, 676 00:30:37,250 --> 00:30:39,667 makes a post about one of its newest artifacts 677 00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:42,667 and the photo of it has the comments section going wild. 678 00:30:43,958 --> 00:30:45,625 The image shows an elongated skull 679 00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:48,542 with a strange metal implant embedded inside it. 680 00:30:48,667 --> 00:30:50,792 The skull found in Peru appears to be human, 681 00:30:50,917 --> 00:30:53,583 but the odd stretched out shape of the bulbous cranial bones 682 00:30:53,708 --> 00:30:55,333 could suggest otherwise. 683 00:30:55,458 --> 00:30:57,250 The implant itself is coarse and bumpy 684 00:30:57,375 --> 00:30:59,833 and is clearly not an organic part of the skeleton. 685 00:30:59,958 --> 00:31:02,167 It appears to be composed of two parts, 686 00:31:02,250 --> 00:31:05,875 an eye-like shape on top and a circle at the bottom. 687 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,167 Forensic anthropologist Dr. John Verano, 688 00:31:08,250 --> 00:31:10,875 who studies prehistoric skulls like this for a living, 689 00:31:11,042 --> 00:31:13,000 was stumped when he first saw this image. 690 00:31:13,083 --> 00:31:14,833 - I've never seen anything like this. 691 00:31:14,958 --> 00:31:15,833 I looked at it and I said, 692 00:31:15,958 --> 00:31:18,292 "Well, it doesn't look genuine to me." 693 00:31:18,375 --> 00:31:20,708 - [Tony] Though this implant is rare, perhaps unique, 694 00:31:20,833 --> 00:31:22,833 author Heidi Hollis says There's a long history 695 00:31:22,958 --> 00:31:24,833 of elongated skulls in Peru. 696 00:31:24,958 --> 00:31:27,750 - For us to be able to find elongated skulls, 697 00:31:27,875 --> 00:31:29,542 that's not the rare element here. 698 00:31:29,708 --> 00:31:32,583 Finding an elongated skull with a metal plate in it, 699 00:31:32,708 --> 00:31:34,458 now that takes the cake. 700 00:31:34,542 --> 00:31:36,542 - [Tony] Peruvian archeologist Julio Teo 701 00:31:36,708 --> 00:31:39,833 discovered hundreds of elongated cone-shaped skulls 702 00:31:39,917 --> 00:31:42,833 buried in the Paracas region in the late 1920s. 703 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,000 And Hollis notes that their surprising appearance 704 00:31:45,125 --> 00:31:48,417 makes some wonder if they could have extraterrestrial origins. 705 00:31:48,542 --> 00:31:49,542 - In pop culture, 706 00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:52,542 we often do see aliens as being portrayed 707 00:31:52,667 --> 00:31:54,333 as having an elongated skull. 708 00:31:54,458 --> 00:31:56,792 From the popular Aliens movies 709 00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:59,042 to the gray aliens witnessed by people 710 00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:01,333 said to be abducted by alien beings. 711 00:32:01,458 --> 00:32:03,667 - [Tony] Recent genetic testing of the Peruvian skulls 712 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:06,000 apparently found they had mitochondrial DNA 713 00:32:06,125 --> 00:32:09,333 with mutations unknown to any human or animal on earth. 714 00:32:09,458 --> 00:32:12,125 And the metal in the skull adds another bizarre dimension. 715 00:32:12,208 --> 00:32:17,000 - It's highly unusual to see such perfection done 716 00:32:17,083 --> 00:32:20,167 on something so ancient, how and who did this? 717 00:32:20,250 --> 00:32:22,208 - [Tony] We often associate metallic objects 718 00:32:22,375 --> 00:32:23,333 with electronics, 719 00:32:23,458 --> 00:32:26,208 so maybe the skull implanted some sort of microchip 720 00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:27,750 or in this case, macrochip, 721 00:32:27,875 --> 00:32:30,208 for aliens to communicate with their home planet. 722 00:32:32,833 --> 00:32:35,000 We know people microchip their pets 723 00:32:35,125 --> 00:32:37,500 to help locate them when they go missing. 724 00:32:37,625 --> 00:32:39,375 In the case of dogs and cats, 725 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:43,083 a device the size of a grain of rice is implanted 726 00:32:43,208 --> 00:32:47,042 just under the skin over the shoulder blades. 727 00:32:47,167 --> 00:32:50,667 Could this cranial implant actually track aliens? 728 00:32:50,792 --> 00:32:53,042 Does it reveal other ancient secrets? 729 00:32:53,167 --> 00:32:57,500 Or is this just one big hoax taking us all for wild ride? 730 00:32:57,625 --> 00:32:59,417 Let's ask the experts. 731 00:32:59,542 --> 00:33:01,708 (ominous music) 732 00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:05,125 We turn first to anthropologist Kathy Strain 733 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:07,458 to disentangle fact from fiction. 734 00:33:07,583 --> 00:33:10,875 - There have been a lot of known hoaxes in archeology 735 00:33:11,042 --> 00:33:13,625 in particular with Peruvian skulls, 736 00:33:13,708 --> 00:33:16,417 crystal skulls that were found all over the world 737 00:33:16,542 --> 00:33:20,542 that were said to have been made by alien technology. 738 00:33:20,708 --> 00:33:21,792 Those were fakes. 739 00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:25,250 We know that they were cut by a jeweler's equipment 740 00:33:25,375 --> 00:33:29,417 and so it's always possible that something can be hoaxed. 741 00:33:29,542 --> 00:33:31,458 - [Tony] But Strain says there's reason to believe 742 00:33:31,583 --> 00:33:32,875 the skull is authentic. 743 00:33:33,042 --> 00:33:37,000 - We can see every element of what a human skull looks like. 744 00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:41,083 That is not easy to hoax, 'cause bone is bone. 745 00:33:41,208 --> 00:33:44,042 We can also date this using radiocarbon 746 00:33:44,167 --> 00:33:46,500 and so that would tell us for certain 747 00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,333 that it is 2,000 years old. 748 00:33:48,417 --> 00:33:50,167 - [Tony] So since this skull seems to be real, 749 00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:52,167 could it actually belong to an ancient alien 750 00:33:52,292 --> 00:33:54,375 who visited Earth from another planet? 751 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:56,167 Archeologist Dr. Ed Barnhart says 752 00:33:56,292 --> 00:33:59,208 that though we associate elongated skulls with aliens, 753 00:33:59,333 --> 00:34:02,292 there's historical evidence that they are in fact human. 754 00:34:02,375 --> 00:34:06,250 - This shows what we call cranial deformation 755 00:34:06,375 --> 00:34:09,250 and that means that probably when this individual 756 00:34:09,375 --> 00:34:13,542 was very young, boards were strapped to the skull 757 00:34:13,667 --> 00:34:17,083 so that it would elongate and change the shape of the skull. 758 00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:20,000 It was very prevalent in South America 759 00:34:20,125 --> 00:34:23,417 where this skull is believed to have come from. 760 00:34:23,542 --> 00:34:25,958 - [Tony] Barnhart says it was generally people of elite status 761 00:34:26,042 --> 00:34:27,833 from Andean cultures like the Paracas 762 00:34:27,917 --> 00:34:30,000 who underwent this practice. 763 00:34:30,083 --> 00:34:32,167 Yet we know some people who claim they've been abducted 764 00:34:32,292 --> 00:34:34,542 by aliens who say they had metal devices 765 00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:36,250 implanted into their bodies. 766 00:34:36,375 --> 00:34:38,875 So maybe these are actually alien implants 767 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,333 into human abductees who've undergone skull elongation. 768 00:34:42,458 --> 00:34:44,000 Or is it possible these South Americans 769 00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:45,167 were able to also carry out 770 00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:48,542 other complex skull modifications like this? 771 00:34:48,667 --> 00:34:51,333 - We have found other skulls 772 00:34:51,458 --> 00:34:55,208 that have what we call trepanation and repairs to them. 773 00:34:55,333 --> 00:34:59,208 Trepanation is the practice of drilling 774 00:34:59,333 --> 00:35:03,833 or removing bone from a head that has undergone trauma. 775 00:35:03,917 --> 00:35:05,958 We know we still use this today. 776 00:35:06,083 --> 00:35:07,708 Roy from Siegfried & Roy, 777 00:35:07,833 --> 00:35:09,375 after he was attacked by the tiger, 778 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:13,000 had to have this done because his brain swelled. 779 00:35:13,083 --> 00:35:15,125 - [Tony] Strain says a recent amazing discovery in Peru 780 00:35:15,250 --> 00:35:17,833 in late 2021 may solve the riddle. 781 00:35:17,917 --> 00:35:19,875 These are obsidian surgical tools 782 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,083 found in what's believed to be a doctor's grave. 783 00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:24,542 Strain says this proves ancient South Americans 784 00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:25,833 actually had the know-how 785 00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:27,167 to perform this dangerous procedure. 786 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,625 Yet even though trepanation is a recognized ancient practice, 787 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:32,333 John Verano still isn't convinced 788 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:33,500 this implant is authentic 789 00:35:33,625 --> 00:35:36,167 since he's never seen metal like this from that time. 790 00:35:36,250 --> 00:35:40,000 - If this skull with its metal implant is genuine 791 00:35:40,125 --> 00:35:43,000 and if it really reflects surgery and implant, 792 00:35:43,125 --> 00:35:47,542 of course it would be a significant historic discovery. 793 00:35:47,708 --> 00:35:50,250 But given that it that it doesn't look like 794 00:35:50,375 --> 00:35:52,833 anything I've ever seen in metallurgy in the Andes, 795 00:35:52,958 --> 00:35:54,583 that's why I have my doubts. 796 00:35:54,708 --> 00:35:56,917 - [Tony] So while John leans toward this being a hoax, 797 00:35:57,042 --> 00:35:58,333 there's plenty of other evidence 798 00:35:58,458 --> 00:36:01,042 to suggest this is the 2,000 year old skull 799 00:36:01,167 --> 00:36:03,667 of a human who survived a life-threatening surgery. 800 00:36:03,792 --> 00:36:05,958 (ominous music) 801 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:10,667 Our verdict, this skull is most likely 802 00:36:10,792 --> 00:36:13,125 an example of ancient trepanation, 803 00:36:13,208 --> 00:36:15,833 but until the skull is radiocarbon dated 804 00:36:15,958 --> 00:36:17,583 to confirm its age, 805 00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:20,500 concluding with absolute certainty that this artifact 806 00:36:20,625 --> 00:36:22,958 is authentic would be... 807 00:36:23,042 --> 00:36:24,625 getting a head of ourselves. 808 00:36:28,375 --> 00:36:29,750 - You may have heard or said the famous phrase, 809 00:36:29,875 --> 00:36:31,083 "The sky is falling," 810 00:36:31,208 --> 00:36:33,667 which comes from a fable about a chicken 811 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:35,667 who believes the sky is collapsing 812 00:36:35,792 --> 00:36:38,083 when an acorn hits him on the head, 813 00:36:38,208 --> 00:36:40,292 but can the sky actually fall? 814 00:36:40,417 --> 00:36:43,292 Watch this before you answer. 815 00:36:43,417 --> 00:36:44,333 December 2018. 816 00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:46,417 It's a hot day in the western Australian 817 00:36:46,542 --> 00:36:47,833 town of Kalgoorlie. 818 00:36:47,958 --> 00:36:50,000 (ominous music) 819 00:36:50,125 --> 00:36:52,208 As storm clouds begin to gather on the horizon, 820 00:36:52,333 --> 00:36:54,417 Leigh Stevens aims his camera at the menacing 821 00:36:54,542 --> 00:36:56,458 skies before him. 822 00:36:56,583 --> 00:36:59,292 Then suddenly out of nowhere, he sees this, 823 00:37:00,458 --> 00:37:02,500 an eerie, green specter appears in the clouds. 824 00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:04,958 It's slightly curved, almost like a crescent moon 825 00:37:05,042 --> 00:37:07,000 with a small spike towards one end. 826 00:37:07,125 --> 00:37:08,208 One thing is for sure, 827 00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:10,542 it's nothing like Leigh has ever seen before. 828 00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:13,208 - It was quite a night, lot of lightning and thunder around. 829 00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:14,500 I was like, "Oh, wow, look at that." 830 00:37:14,625 --> 00:37:17,167 And I'd looked into the phone and we saw the green light 831 00:37:17,333 --> 00:37:18,958 and we stood there watching it 832 00:37:19,042 --> 00:37:20,167 and it was changing shapes and things. 833 00:37:20,292 --> 00:37:22,167 - [Tony] But while many would assume lights in the sky 834 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:24,125 during a storm is the work of mother nature, 835 00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:25,667 according to writer Erin McCarthy, 836 00:37:25,792 --> 00:37:28,667 it's odd shape and pointed edges lead many to believe 837 00:37:28,792 --> 00:37:30,500 it's a glitch in the matrix. 838 00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:32,000 - It's a very old idea 839 00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:35,000 that perhaps reality is not reality. 840 00:37:35,167 --> 00:37:37,333 That we are actually living in a computer simulation 841 00:37:37,458 --> 00:37:41,000 that's run by a more advanced civilization than our own. 842 00:37:41,167 --> 00:37:43,750 - [Tony] In 1965, Gordon Moore, the founder of Intel, 843 00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:46,375 postulated that the speed and capability of computers 844 00:37:46,542 --> 00:37:48,917 can be expected to double every two years. 845 00:37:49,042 --> 00:37:51,917 Now picture human civilization millions of years in the future 846 00:37:52,042 --> 00:37:55,542 with computer processing power beyond anything we can imagine. 847 00:37:55,708 --> 00:37:57,542 What if they created a massive simulation 848 00:37:57,708 --> 00:38:01,083 to study their ancestors and that sim is us? 849 00:38:01,208 --> 00:38:03,083 Our now is actually far in the future 850 00:38:03,208 --> 00:38:05,458 and we are simply pixels in a program. 851 00:38:05,542 --> 00:38:07,875 Well, as with our own computer programs today, 852 00:38:08,042 --> 00:38:09,542 sometimes there's a bug. 853 00:38:09,667 --> 00:38:12,000 Could this strange anomaly in the sky be proof 854 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:14,583 of a glitch in a future civilization simulation? 855 00:38:14,708 --> 00:38:16,750 (ominous music) 856 00:38:17,792 --> 00:38:21,292 The idea that the world is actually an illusion 857 00:38:21,417 --> 00:38:23,208 has been discussed in philosophy 858 00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:26,000 and in cultures throughout history from ancient Greece 859 00:38:26,125 --> 00:38:28,500 to Indian to the Aztecs. 860 00:38:28,625 --> 00:38:30,333 In fact, it turns out some scientists 861 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:34,167 actually put the probability that we are in a simulation 862 00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:36,292 at around 50/50. 863 00:38:36,375 --> 00:38:38,833 So is this mysterious green anomaly evidence 864 00:38:38,958 --> 00:38:41,292 of a computer sim gone wrong? 865 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:44,250 Or could there be other factors at play? 866 00:38:44,375 --> 00:38:46,083 Our experts investigate. 867 00:38:46,208 --> 00:38:48,375 (ominous music) 868 00:38:49,542 --> 00:38:52,083 First, we go to meteorologist Juan Hernandez. 869 00:38:52,208 --> 00:38:53,625 Is it possible the weather that day 870 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:56,583 is responsible for this ominous green light? 871 00:38:56,708 --> 00:39:00,583 - The weather conditions during the thunderstorms, 872 00:39:00,708 --> 00:39:02,375 they were quite chaotic. 873 00:39:02,542 --> 00:39:06,500 We had wind speeds in excess of about 70 miles an hour 874 00:39:06,583 --> 00:39:09,167 when these thunderstorms were coming through. 875 00:39:09,292 --> 00:39:11,625 Now this here is fairly static. 876 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:15,458 We don't see any wiggle or any flashes. 877 00:39:15,542 --> 00:39:17,333 - [Tony] So then are we looking at a different kind 878 00:39:17,458 --> 00:39:19,167 of atmospheric phenomenon? 879 00:39:19,292 --> 00:39:21,000 Could this be the southern hemisphere's version 880 00:39:21,167 --> 00:39:22,458 of the Aurora Borealis? 881 00:39:22,542 --> 00:39:26,292 - When looking at the Southern lights, everything is moving. 882 00:39:26,417 --> 00:39:28,292 It's not stationary. 883 00:39:28,375 --> 00:39:30,958 It looks like flying ribbons in the sky 884 00:39:31,083 --> 00:39:32,500 and that's just not what we see here. 885 00:39:32,625 --> 00:39:35,917 This is a static light or a static net. 886 00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:38,000 - [Tony] If natural explanations can be discounted, 887 00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:39,000 then could we really be living 888 00:39:39,083 --> 00:39:41,500 in an advanced computer simulation? 889 00:39:41,667 --> 00:39:45,542 - Well, to be fair, we can't discount any theory. 890 00:39:45,667 --> 00:39:48,250 However, I believe that applications of science 891 00:39:48,375 --> 00:39:49,542 can tell us what we're seeing. 892 00:39:49,667 --> 00:39:51,833 - [Tony] Instead of computers controlling a simulation, 893 00:39:51,958 --> 00:39:54,667 D'Antonio begins by exploring the idea of computers 894 00:39:54,792 --> 00:39:55,500 controlling light. 895 00:39:55,625 --> 00:39:57,500 - Early in my analysis I thought, 896 00:39:57,583 --> 00:40:00,333 could this be a green laser pointing into the sky 897 00:40:00,458 --> 00:40:02,125 and playing back and forth? 898 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:04,625 Trouble was the projection of the laser 899 00:40:04,708 --> 00:40:08,958 isn't gonna work that way on these soft clouds 900 00:40:09,083 --> 00:40:10,667 and you won't get these hard edges. 901 00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:12,708 You'll get more of a diffused glow. 902 00:40:12,833 --> 00:40:14,375 - [Tony] But as D'Antonio digs deeper, 903 00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:16,833 he does find a very telling clue in the footage. 904 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,292 - I noticed that like this tree and everything, 905 00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:21,333 if you watch boom, goes out of focus right there. 906 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:23,083 Just as soon as that shows up. 907 00:40:23,208 --> 00:40:26,000 To me the evidence takes us more toward 908 00:40:26,167 --> 00:40:28,083 an ordinary water drop on the camera. 909 00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:30,000 We're looking at a hotspot point source 910 00:40:30,167 --> 00:40:33,375 that's refracting light off of the water drop on the camera, 911 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:34,500 and that's what we see here. 912 00:40:34,625 --> 00:40:37,333 In this reflection, the camera is saturated 913 00:40:37,417 --> 00:40:39,167 by this bright light out here. 914 00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:40,500 And so we're getting a reflection. 915 00:40:40,583 --> 00:40:44,000 I think that he was really excited by the thunderstorm 916 00:40:44,083 --> 00:40:46,833 that he was recording and then he saw the object in the sky. 917 00:40:46,958 --> 00:40:49,125 He's like, "Whoa, look at that. That's cool." 918 00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:51,000 You know, probably didn't realize 919 00:40:51,083 --> 00:40:52,667 that he had water on his lens. 920 00:40:52,792 --> 00:40:55,000 (ominous music) 921 00:40:56,875 --> 00:41:00,792 - Our verdict, we're going with a water droplet on the lens. 922 00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:03,458 We think D'Antonio's observation that the bottom 923 00:41:03,583 --> 00:41:06,333 of the picture loses focus at the same time 924 00:41:06,458 --> 00:41:08,667 the anomaly occurs is the key. 925 00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:11,250 But hey, it's not every day that a simple explanation 926 00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:14,167 leads to such spectacular video. 927 00:41:14,250 --> 00:41:15,292 And that's our show for tonight. 928 00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:17,417 Thank you so much for watching. 929 00:41:17,542 --> 00:41:21,208 Please send us any videos you'd like us to investigate 930 00:41:21,375 --> 00:41:23,292 and remember to keep those cameras rolling 931 00:41:23,375 --> 00:41:25,250 and those lenses clean. 932 00:41:25,375 --> 00:41:28,042 (dramatic theme music)