1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,250 - Tonight on The Proof is Out There. 2 00:00:03,375 --> 00:00:05,375 UFOs spotted near military aircraft again. 3 00:00:05,542 --> 00:00:08,042 Are alien sizing up our fighting force? 4 00:00:08,208 --> 00:00:12,208 - There have been a lot of UFOs seen around military locations. 5 00:00:12,333 --> 00:00:15,125 - [Tony] Some of the most famous Bigfoot footage ever recorded. 6 00:00:15,250 --> 00:00:17,500 Is this conclusive proof? 7 00:00:17,708 --> 00:00:19,250 - [Paul] Oh, there he goes. 8 00:00:19,375 --> 00:00:21,542 [Tony] This man claims he found a sunken city 9 00:00:21,667 --> 00:00:23,167 off the coast of Louisiana. 10 00:00:23,292 --> 00:00:26,625 - An ancient culture that nobody knew was there. 11 00:00:26,708 --> 00:00:29,750 - [Tony] And what the heck is that going behind the moon? 12 00:00:29,875 --> 00:00:33,375 - I have absolutely no idea what I am looking at right here. 13 00:00:36,042 --> 00:00:38,250 (dramatic music) 14 00:00:38,417 --> 00:00:39,833 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 15 00:00:39,958 --> 00:00:41,708 - [Witness] What the heck is this? 16 00:00:41,833 --> 00:00:43,417 - [Witness] It's moving. 17 00:00:43,542 --> 00:00:46,500 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 18 00:00:46,625 --> 00:00:48,542 (electric buzzing) 19 00:00:52,125 --> 00:00:54,292 - [Marc] Is it some kind of unidentified object? 20 00:00:54,375 --> 00:00:56,083 What's exciting is nobody really knows. 21 00:00:56,208 --> 00:00:57,500 (plane engine roaring) 22 00:00:57,708 --> 00:00:58,375 - [Tony] What are they? 23 00:00:58,625 --> 00:01:00,458 - [MJ] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 24 00:01:00,583 --> 00:01:03,625 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 25 00:01:05,625 --> 00:01:07,667 - I'm Tony Harris, and as a journalist 26 00:01:07,792 --> 00:01:09,167 for more than 30 years, 27 00:01:09,375 --> 00:01:12,000 I've followed the facts where they take me. 28 00:01:12,167 --> 00:01:14,375 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 29 00:01:14,542 --> 00:01:17,083 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 30 00:01:18,167 --> 00:01:20,958 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 31 00:01:21,042 --> 00:01:22,500 - It's a credible case. 32 00:01:22,625 --> 00:01:24,000 It's a credible video. 33 00:01:24,125 --> 00:01:26,833 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 34 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,875 - This video was clearly faked. 35 00:01:29,042 --> 00:01:31,125 - The proof starts now. 36 00:01:31,208 --> 00:01:33,833 (dramatic theme music) 37 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:42,917 Good evening and welcome to The Proof Is Out There. 38 00:01:43,042 --> 00:01:45,750 Folks, we have another UFO clip 39 00:01:45,917 --> 00:01:47,917 captured by a government camera 40 00:01:48,042 --> 00:01:50,500 and witnessed by military pilots. 41 00:01:50,625 --> 00:01:53,167 In the past year, these videos have spurred the Pentagon 42 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:54,792 to seriously investigate 43 00:01:54,917 --> 00:01:57,375 unidentified objects in our skies. 44 00:01:57,542 --> 00:01:59,917 So when this next one appeared on the scene 45 00:02:00,042 --> 00:02:02,083 and started raising questions, 46 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:05,625 we knew it was time for our team to take a look. 47 00:02:05,750 --> 00:02:08,292 November 6th, 2018, Arizona. 48 00:02:08,375 --> 00:02:11,250 A US Army AH-64 Apache attack helicopter 49 00:02:11,417 --> 00:02:13,333 is preparing for a training flight. 50 00:02:13,417 --> 00:02:17,083 - [Pilot] 2A1, taxi north to tower 2 west, (indistinct). 51 00:02:17,208 --> 00:02:18,333 - [Tony] The crew is just about to take off 52 00:02:18,750 --> 00:02:21,625 when suddenly, something moves directly in their flight path. 53 00:02:21,792 --> 00:02:22,750 Take a closer look. 54 00:02:25,042 --> 00:02:26,833 The helicopter's thermal imaging camera 55 00:02:26,958 --> 00:02:28,375 picks up three bright objects 56 00:02:28,542 --> 00:02:31,667 that appear to instantaneously circle each other. 57 00:02:31,792 --> 00:02:35,042 UFO Investigator, Andy Marcial, releases the video 58 00:02:35,208 --> 00:02:37,542 after receiving the footage from a secret source 59 00:02:37,667 --> 00:02:39,542 at the Department of Homeland Security. 60 00:02:39,625 --> 00:02:41,125 - One of the things that stood out the most 61 00:02:41,208 --> 00:02:43,833 was the maneuver that was captured 62 00:02:44,708 --> 00:02:46,792 where they kind of went around each other 63 00:02:46,917 --> 00:02:49,000 in this very weird fashion. 64 00:02:49,167 --> 00:02:51,125 There's just nothing I know that can pull 65 00:02:51,208 --> 00:02:54,625 some kind of maneuver like that off in mid-flight. 66 00:02:54,792 --> 00:02:55,917 That's the mystery. 67 00:02:57,292 --> 00:02:59,333 - [Tony] In an earlier episode, we brought you this video, 68 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:02,333 the mysterious UFO dubbed the Rubber Duck. 69 00:03:02,458 --> 00:03:05,250 Now we have another strange unidentified object, 70 00:03:05,417 --> 00:03:07,125 also captured in Arizona, 71 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:09,542 by Department of Homeland Security cameras. 72 00:03:09,708 --> 00:03:12,250 According to journalist, MJ Banias, when this video 73 00:03:12,417 --> 00:03:14,250 was examined at the science and tech website, 74 00:03:14,375 --> 00:03:16,542 The Debrief, they didn't know what to think. 75 00:03:16,708 --> 00:03:20,000 - We brought in several experts to look at the footage, 76 00:03:20,167 --> 00:03:22,833 to analyze the objects in this video, 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,375 to figure out what was going on, 78 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:27,333 and confirmed that the point in the video 79 00:03:27,458 --> 00:03:30,708 where the objects appear to rotate around one another 80 00:03:30,917 --> 00:03:32,417 is an impossible maneuver. 81 00:03:33,375 --> 00:03:35,000 - [Tony] We featured videos of UFOs 82 00:03:35,208 --> 00:03:37,250 in bizarre circling formations before, 83 00:03:37,375 --> 00:03:39,167 like these flaming objects captured 84 00:03:39,208 --> 00:03:40,583 in the skies over England. 85 00:03:40,708 --> 00:03:42,667 But the speed and rapid change of direction 86 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:45,167 with these craft are unlike anything we've ever seen. 87 00:03:45,292 --> 00:03:46,667 So what could they be? 88 00:03:46,792 --> 00:03:49,000 Well, Banias says, if you want an answer, 89 00:03:49,167 --> 00:03:50,875 don't ask the U.S. government. 90 00:03:51,042 --> 00:03:54,250 - When The Debrief published this video and the story, 91 00:03:54,375 --> 00:03:56,167 the Pentagon did not comment on it. 92 00:03:56,375 --> 00:03:58,833 The DHS did not respond to requests for comment. 93 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,750 Basically, the United States government did not respond 94 00:04:01,875 --> 00:04:04,250 to confirm the video. 95 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:09,292 - With the Rubber Duck UFO, this is the second leaked video 96 00:04:09,375 --> 00:04:11,458 from the Department of Homeland Security 97 00:04:11,583 --> 00:04:14,000 that Andy Marcial has brought to us. 98 00:04:14,125 --> 00:04:17,958 Clearly he's got a motivated source sending him this stuff, 99 00:04:18,125 --> 00:04:20,000 and we've got something unusual going on 100 00:04:20,125 --> 00:04:22,042 in the skies over Arizona. 101 00:04:22,208 --> 00:04:23,250 But what? 102 00:04:23,625 --> 00:04:27,125 According to Banias, the DHS wouldn't reveal any info, 103 00:04:27,250 --> 00:04:29,958 and maybe even doesn't want us to know. 104 00:04:30,083 --> 00:04:32,167 So can our experts solve this? 105 00:04:32,292 --> 00:04:33,167 Let's see. 106 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:35,583 (tense music) 107 00:04:37,708 --> 00:04:39,917 We begin with Rich Hoffman of the Scientific Coalition 108 00:04:40,042 --> 00:04:41,208 for UAP Studies. 109 00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:43,333 - When I first looked at it, I thought that the video 110 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:46,500 was quite interesting, and there have been a lot of UFOs 111 00:04:46,625 --> 00:04:49,208 seen around military locations. 112 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:50,917 - [Tony] But is this a UFO? 113 00:04:51,042 --> 00:04:52,333 Hoffman isn't so sure. 114 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:54,583 - UFOs have a tendency to hover, 115 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:56,375 and then they'll shoot either straight up, 116 00:04:56,542 --> 00:04:58,583 or they'll shoot off on an angle. 117 00:04:58,708 --> 00:05:01,542 Some are actually seen to flip on its side 118 00:05:01,708 --> 00:05:04,667 and actually shoot off in a specific direction. 119 00:05:04,833 --> 00:05:06,292 You don't see that here. 120 00:05:06,417 --> 00:05:07,458 - [Tony] The footage was captured 121 00:05:07,625 --> 00:05:08,667 at a military training ground, 122 00:05:08,875 --> 00:05:11,500 so could it be another military aircraft? 123 00:05:11,583 --> 00:05:13,458 That's what the pilots initially thought. 124 00:05:13,583 --> 00:05:14,333 - [Pilot] Wow, there's three, 125 00:05:14,583 --> 00:05:16,667 really fast flying jets up there. 126 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,417 - [Tony] But aviation expert Tim McMillan 127 00:05:18,542 --> 00:05:19,667 says not so fast. 128 00:05:20,083 --> 00:05:23,417 - So, let's take some of the fastest or best performance 129 00:05:23,542 --> 00:05:25,000 jets that we could think of that would be 130 00:05:25,208 --> 00:05:26,000 operating in this area. 131 00:05:26,292 --> 00:05:29,125 So, F-16s, F-18s, something like that. 132 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:32,000 They can't turn at such an extreme angle. 133 00:05:32,167 --> 00:05:35,500 They have to bank at a certain angle, at a certain speed. 134 00:05:35,667 --> 00:05:37,667 The human body, frankly, just cannot handle 135 00:05:37,833 --> 00:05:39,792 the amount of G-force, the amount of pressure 136 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,500 that it would take you. 137 00:05:41,625 --> 00:05:46,042 And so these objects actually change completely, 138 00:05:46,167 --> 00:05:51,500 in a 360 degree rotation, really, in under three seconds, 139 00:05:51,708 --> 00:05:53,167 you wouldn't see that from a jet. 140 00:05:53,292 --> 00:05:55,875 It's too extreme of an angle. 141 00:05:56,042 --> 00:05:57,167 - [Tony] So what could this be? 142 00:05:57,542 --> 00:06:00,458 Hoffman thinks an overhead view could yield some answers. 143 00:06:00,625 --> 00:06:02,667 - I went into Google Earth to be able to see 144 00:06:02,708 --> 00:06:05,292 the measure of the runway, and I determined 145 00:06:05,375 --> 00:06:06,500 it was 1,600 feet. 146 00:06:06,708 --> 00:06:09,375 And if you looked at that angle of the formation, 147 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:12,458 it was about, maybe 20 degrees above the horizon. 148 00:06:12,583 --> 00:06:14,417 So I'm able to take those and put it 149 00:06:14,542 --> 00:06:17,750 into a trigonometry tool that allows me to very quickly 150 00:06:17,958 --> 00:06:21,542 determine the object here is roughly about 300 feet 151 00:06:21,667 --> 00:06:23,833 in terms of the distance, and then you can come up 152 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 with the measures and you find out that the object 153 00:06:26,125 --> 00:06:31,667 is about less than one foot in terms of its total length. 154 00:06:31,792 --> 00:06:33,875 - [Tony] A foot long object that can make quick turns 155 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,542 while flying in a formation? 156 00:06:35,708 --> 00:06:37,833 It leads Hoffman to only one conclusion. 157 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,750 - When you saw the motion and the rotational pattern 158 00:06:40,875 --> 00:06:44,333 like that, it came to mind it's more than likely birds, 159 00:06:44,458 --> 00:06:46,500 because birds move like that. 160 00:06:46,583 --> 00:06:48,083 They do play with each other 161 00:06:48,292 --> 00:06:50,250 in a sense of flying around in circles. 162 00:06:50,375 --> 00:06:52,167 They typically can be moving as quickly 163 00:06:52,292 --> 00:06:55,292 as 85 to 100 miles an hour. 164 00:06:55,375 --> 00:07:00,333 An entire swarm can swivel and turn in less than a second. 165 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,667 (tense music) 166 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:07,083 - Our verdict? We're going with birds. 167 00:07:07,208 --> 00:07:10,000 We agree with Hoffman that the lightning fast movements 168 00:07:10,042 --> 00:07:13,667 and tight turns aren't examples of jets at mach speeds, 169 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:16,667 but instead aerobatic animals. 170 00:07:16,792 --> 00:07:18,917 But that doesn't mean pilots should stop speaking up 171 00:07:19,042 --> 00:07:21,000 when they see strange things out there. 172 00:07:22,708 --> 00:07:24,667 Now, from birds to Bigfoot. 173 00:07:24,792 --> 00:07:27,917 Researchers who take Bigfoot seriously 174 00:07:28,042 --> 00:07:31,500 don't take every alleged Bigfoot video seriously. 175 00:07:31,667 --> 00:07:35,500 In fact, they're often the first to call foul on the fakers. 176 00:07:35,667 --> 00:07:39,500 So when they tell us they've seen video they think is legit, 177 00:07:39,625 --> 00:07:41,250 we take a look, too. 178 00:07:41,375 --> 00:07:42,917 (tense music) 179 00:07:43,042 --> 00:07:46,000 August 20th, 1992, Blue Mountains, Oregon. 180 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,708 Paul Freeman, an experienced former US Forest Service 181 00:07:49,833 --> 00:07:52,333 patrolman, has been frequenting Deduct Spring 182 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:54,958 for a few weeks after seeing unusual footprints. 183 00:07:56,792 --> 00:07:58,667 - [Paul] Yeah, it looks like they've been here. 184 00:07:58,792 --> 00:08:00,333 Looks like he's pretty fresh. 185 00:08:00,542 --> 00:08:02,458 - [Tony] First, he discovers ample evidence 186 00:08:02,625 --> 00:08:05,500 of Bigfoot activity, including multiple tracks. 187 00:08:05,583 --> 00:08:07,042 - [Paul] Yeah, look there. 188 00:08:07,167 --> 00:08:09,000 - [Tony] Next, he hears something forging its way 189 00:08:09,167 --> 00:08:12,792 through the woods, and finally, he sees this. 190 00:08:12,958 --> 00:08:15,208 - [Paul] I hear the brush popping and stuff. 191 00:08:15,375 --> 00:08:17,917 (dramatic music) 192 00:08:18,083 --> 00:08:19,417 Oh, there he goes! 193 00:08:19,542 --> 00:08:21,917 (suspenseful music) 194 00:08:27,292 --> 00:08:28,250 - So there's a lot here 195 00:08:28,458 --> 00:08:30,333 that Bigfoot hunters find fascinating. 196 00:08:30,458 --> 00:08:31,625 One thing is the gait, 197 00:08:31,750 --> 00:08:33,917 especially the big strides, right? 198 00:08:34,042 --> 00:08:35,958 Big strides is spaced through here, 199 00:08:36,083 --> 00:08:39,000 and the low swinging arm movement. 200 00:08:39,083 --> 00:08:40,458 They say that's not human. 201 00:08:40,625 --> 00:08:43,250 Also the detail in the hair. 202 00:08:43,375 --> 00:08:46,000 They say it's too natural to be a costume. 203 00:08:46,208 --> 00:08:47,167 (tense music) 204 00:08:47,375 --> 00:08:48,833 Paul's son, Mike, was in the basement 205 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,708 the day his dad rushed home with the footage. 206 00:08:50,875 --> 00:08:53,083 - I kind of ran up the stairs, and here's my dad standing there 207 00:08:53,292 --> 00:08:55,333 and he's covered in sweat and dirt, 208 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:58,708 and he's pale in color, and he's shaking. 209 00:08:58,875 --> 00:09:01,708 I always tell people that that's the only time 210 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:05,708 in my entire life that I ever saw my dad scared of anything. 211 00:09:05,875 --> 00:09:07,333 - [Tony] Field researcher Cliff Barackman, 212 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:09,083 a close friend of the Freeman family, 213 00:09:09,208 --> 00:09:11,500 is impressed by the research that Paul conducted 214 00:09:11,667 --> 00:09:13,958 in the wake of his alleged Sasquatch encounter. 215 00:09:14,125 --> 00:09:17,000 - Paul had been collecting data on a series of maps 216 00:09:17,083 --> 00:09:18,542 for 10 years. 217 00:09:18,708 --> 00:09:20,125 Every time a sighting report came in, 218 00:09:20,250 --> 00:09:24,167 he would record the location and the date on a large map 219 00:09:24,292 --> 00:09:25,833 that was hanging in his basement. 220 00:09:25,958 --> 00:09:27,875 The evidence collected by Paul Freeman 221 00:09:28,042 --> 00:09:30,833 and his network of researchers in the Blue Mountains 222 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,125 has been closely examined by more PhDs and anthropologists 223 00:09:35,250 --> 00:09:38,958 than any other dataset in all Bigfoot history. 224 00:09:39,167 --> 00:09:40,833 - [Tony] But for Barackman, the Freeman footage 225 00:09:41,042 --> 00:09:43,250 speaks for itself, drawing compelling comparisons 226 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:47,208 with the famous Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot film of 1967. 227 00:09:47,375 --> 00:09:48,458 - There are a lot of similarities 228 00:09:48,875 --> 00:09:51,292 between the Patterson-Gimlin film and the Freeman footage. 229 00:09:51,375 --> 00:09:53,250 The subject does resemble the subject 230 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:54,542 in the Patterson-Gimlin film. 231 00:09:54,875 --> 00:09:57,083 The head is a little bit lower, the shoulders are higher, 232 00:09:57,208 --> 00:09:59,833 which is a very ape-like characteristic. 233 00:09:59,958 --> 00:10:03,000 The arms are quite long and they swing quite slowly. 234 00:10:03,083 --> 00:10:04,917 I think it's a Bigfoot, but whatever that is, 235 00:10:05,042 --> 00:10:07,042 it is quite large and quite massive. 236 00:10:09,375 --> 00:10:13,708 - In Freeman's Bigfooting career from 1982 to 1997, 237 00:10:13,875 --> 00:10:17,833 he found and casted anywhere between 50 and 75 238 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,667 Bigfoot prints in the Blue Mountains, 239 00:10:20,833 --> 00:10:23,000 many of which have been examined and verified 240 00:10:23,125 --> 00:10:25,833 as genuine by scientists all over the country. 241 00:10:25,958 --> 00:10:30,583 To find out if his 1992 sighting is actually a real Bigfoot, 242 00:10:30,792 --> 00:10:32,375 we turn to our experts. 243 00:10:32,542 --> 00:10:34,875 (tense music) 244 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:39,208 First, we turn to wildlife biologist, Floyd Hayes, 245 00:10:39,375 --> 00:10:42,333 to rule out any possible animal misidentification. 246 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:44,667 - A black bear can be large and black, 247 00:10:44,792 --> 00:10:47,833 and it can walk on its two hind legs, 248 00:10:47,958 --> 00:10:51,625 but this animal seems to be a fully functional quadruped 249 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:54,833 walking routinely on its hind legs, 250 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,667 and bears only walk short distances on their hind legs. 251 00:10:57,792 --> 00:11:00,500 This also seems to have a much flatter face than a bear, 252 00:11:00,583 --> 00:11:02,292 which has a much more pointed snout. 253 00:11:02,458 --> 00:11:04,500 So I don't think that is a bear. 254 00:11:04,583 --> 00:11:06,833 I cannot rule this out as being a Bigfoot. 255 00:11:07,042 --> 00:11:09,208 - [Tony] Next, we turn to anatomist and anthropologist 256 00:11:09,333 --> 00:11:12,167 Dr. Jeff Meldrum, who gained renown early in his career 257 00:11:12,292 --> 00:11:14,333 for his work with Paul Freeman's prints. 258 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:17,500 - As it walks across, one can't help but be struck 259 00:11:17,625 --> 00:11:20,667 by resemblances to the Patterson-Gimlin film. 260 00:11:20,833 --> 00:11:24,792 The massiveness of this figure is impressive. 261 00:11:24,958 --> 00:11:29,250 This smallish head set low down on the shoulders 262 00:11:29,375 --> 00:11:31,583 with the massive musculature, 263 00:11:31,708 --> 00:11:34,500 trapezius coming high up on the back of the head, 264 00:11:34,625 --> 00:11:35,542 is quite apparent. 265 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:37,667 The length of the arms is impressive, 266 00:11:37,833 --> 00:11:41,208 as it swings its arm back, the way the sunlight 267 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:45,083 plays across the hair has a very natural appearance, 268 00:11:45,208 --> 00:11:48,958 unlike the scattering effect of faux fur. 269 00:11:49,042 --> 00:11:51,667 I mean if this was a hoax, it would require 270 00:11:51,875 --> 00:11:54,958 very skilled knowledge of animal anatomy. 271 00:11:55,042 --> 00:11:56,625 - [Tony] It's not only the anatomy of the creature 272 00:11:56,833 --> 00:11:58,667 that works for Meldrum, it's the location. 273 00:11:58,833 --> 00:12:00,833 - It's actually ideal habitat. 274 00:12:00,958 --> 00:12:04,542 The evidence that has emerged from this region 275 00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:07,750 has been examined by more PhDs than from any other 276 00:12:07,875 --> 00:12:09,833 part of the country. 277 00:12:10,042 --> 00:12:14,167 The first evidence of skin ridge detail, 278 00:12:14,292 --> 00:12:17,667 which all primates have on the palms of their hands 279 00:12:17,792 --> 00:12:19,125 and soles of their feet, 280 00:12:19,250 --> 00:12:22,500 was evidenced in examples of footprints 281 00:12:22,625 --> 00:12:24,500 that come from this habitat. 282 00:12:24,625 --> 00:12:29,000 Southeastern Washington has extensive loess deposits. 283 00:12:29,167 --> 00:12:33,167 Loess is a very fine glacial sediment. 284 00:12:33,333 --> 00:12:36,667 As a result, that very fine textured soil 285 00:12:36,875 --> 00:12:40,542 picks up remarkable details in animal tracks. 286 00:12:40,708 --> 00:12:43,083 There's a very high likelihood 287 00:12:43,208 --> 00:12:48,250 that this is a genuine piece of video evidence of Sasquatch. 288 00:12:48,417 --> 00:12:50,792 (tense music) 289 00:12:52,583 --> 00:12:55,000 - Our verdict? Possible Bigfoot. 290 00:12:55,125 --> 00:12:57,667 In our expert's opinions, this could indeed be 291 00:12:57,792 --> 00:12:59,917 a true Sasquatch encounter. 292 00:13:00,042 --> 00:13:02,500 And it's important to note there were two creatures 293 00:13:02,625 --> 00:13:06,292 allegedly seen, even though only one was caught on camera. 294 00:13:06,375 --> 00:13:08,708 That seems to indicate there could be more 295 00:13:08,833 --> 00:13:10,292 where they came from. 296 00:13:10,375 --> 00:13:12,417 So we're gonna keep our ears to the ground 297 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:13,500 for further evidence. 298 00:13:17,208 --> 00:13:18,833 - We've all heard the legend of Atlantis, 299 00:13:18,958 --> 00:13:21,042 the supposed lost island paradise 300 00:13:21,208 --> 00:13:24,083 first mentioned by the Greek philosopher Plato. 301 00:13:24,250 --> 00:13:27,625 But what if there's actually a sunken civilization 302 00:13:27,792 --> 00:13:30,042 that most people have never heard of, 303 00:13:30,208 --> 00:13:32,875 right off the Gulf coast of the US? 304 00:13:33,875 --> 00:13:36,625 It's May, 2011 on the Chandelier Islands, 305 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:39,667 50 miles offshore from southeastern Louisiana. 306 00:13:39,875 --> 00:13:42,208 Architect and amateur archeologist, George Gele, 307 00:13:42,375 --> 00:13:44,708 has received permission to do exploration dives 308 00:13:44,875 --> 00:13:46,917 in the area with a remote operated vehicle. 309 00:13:47,042 --> 00:13:50,125 What his underwater videos reveal is astonishing. 310 00:13:52,833 --> 00:13:54,708 Scattered on the sea floor are what appear to be 311 00:13:54,875 --> 00:13:56,292 large granite blocks. 312 00:13:56,375 --> 00:13:59,000 The cubic stones don't seem to be at all natural 313 00:13:59,125 --> 00:14:01,333 since they all have 90 degree, squared edges 314 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,208 and some have carvings and cuts. 315 00:14:03,292 --> 00:14:05,500 Check out what they look like after he's brought them up 316 00:14:05,625 --> 00:14:06,708 and cleaned them off. 317 00:14:07,083 --> 00:14:09,792 Could they once have been part of a larger structure? 318 00:14:09,958 --> 00:14:11,875 George says he's certain this is the site 319 00:14:12,042 --> 00:14:15,458 of an ancient lost city that he has named Crescentus. 320 00:14:16,292 --> 00:14:18,083 - I'm an architect and a contractor, 321 00:14:18,208 --> 00:14:20,000 so I do know what buildings look like, 322 00:14:20,083 --> 00:14:22,375 even if they're underwater and covered up 323 00:14:22,542 --> 00:14:25,833 somewhat with sand, and that's what we have here. 324 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,833 An ancient culture that nobody knew that was there. 325 00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:31,042 - [Tony] George says the location 326 00:14:31,208 --> 00:14:32,833 of this submerged civilization 327 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,125 first came to him while sleeping one night in the 1960s. 328 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:37,958 - I had an incredibly vivid dream. 329 00:14:38,083 --> 00:14:40,250 I got up and I sketched it, and the dream 330 00:14:40,375 --> 00:14:43,500 was what I call the Star of David Diagram, 331 00:14:43,625 --> 00:14:48,667 and it showed, in that diagram, that if you start off 332 00:14:48,833 --> 00:14:51,042 at Giza, at the Great Pyramid, 333 00:14:51,167 --> 00:14:54,833 there were six cities at the same latitude as Giza, 334 00:14:55,042 --> 00:14:58,500 and one of them was in Louisiana. 335 00:14:58,667 --> 00:15:00,708 - [Tony] Journalist Erin McCarthy says George believes 336 00:15:00,875 --> 00:15:02,333 the block seen in this video could be 337 00:15:02,458 --> 00:15:05,542 at least 12,000 years old, predating the Incan, 338 00:15:05,708 --> 00:15:07,708 Mayan, and Aztec civilizations. 339 00:15:07,833 --> 00:15:10,250 - Granite is not natural to the area. 340 00:15:10,375 --> 00:15:12,417 His theory is that they were brought from somewhere 341 00:15:12,542 --> 00:15:15,625 that's not Louisiana and floated down the Mississippi 342 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:17,917 at some point before the last ice age, 343 00:15:18,125 --> 00:15:22,167 when this area of Louisiana would've been above water. 344 00:15:22,250 --> 00:15:23,750 - [Tony] And wait, there's more. 345 00:15:23,958 --> 00:15:26,042 George believes that just as we see in Giza, 346 00:15:26,208 --> 00:15:28,708 there was a 280 foot tall pyramid here, 347 00:15:28,875 --> 00:15:30,542 that is now buried in silt. 348 00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:32,292 - He claims that it produces 349 00:15:32,375 --> 00:15:34,958 a ton of electromagnetic activity, 350 00:15:35,083 --> 00:15:37,917 and fishermen who fish out near that area 351 00:15:38,042 --> 00:15:40,625 say that it actually affects their compasses. 352 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:44,000 - [Tony] George says this buildup of energy 353 00:15:44,125 --> 00:15:46,333 gives more credence to his pyramid theory. 354 00:15:46,458 --> 00:15:49,833 - I know that having done 50 years of research 355 00:15:49,958 --> 00:15:52,333 in how they produce energy, 356 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:56,167 the only architectural form that I'm aware of 357 00:15:56,292 --> 00:15:58,958 that can do that is a pyramidal structure. 358 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:00,750 - [TOny] At least one Russian study has found 359 00:16:00,875 --> 00:16:02,250 a pyramid's chambers can collect 360 00:16:02,417 --> 00:16:04,458 and concentrate electromagnetic energy. 361 00:16:07,583 --> 00:16:10,500 It seems clear these huge blots were placed here 362 00:16:10,625 --> 00:16:12,875 by someone or something. 363 00:16:13,042 --> 00:16:15,792 As glacial ice melted at the end of the ice age, 364 00:16:15,958 --> 00:16:17,875 it flowed down the Mississippi River 365 00:16:18,042 --> 00:16:21,208 into the Gulf of Mexico, submerging the coastline, 366 00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:23,667 and moving it 60 miles inland. 367 00:16:23,833 --> 00:16:26,875 So could these blocks have been deposited here by the river? 368 00:16:27,042 --> 00:16:29,167 Or could a lost Louisiana City, 369 00:16:29,333 --> 00:16:31,375 which George calls Crescentus, 370 00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:34,625 have been the ice age's greatest casualty? 371 00:16:34,750 --> 00:16:37,083 (tense music) 372 00:16:38,375 --> 00:16:40,833 Archeologist Dr. Ed Barnhardt says, 373 00:16:40,958 --> 00:16:42,417 if this site is really 12,000 years old, 374 00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:44,333 it would be from around the time of the emergence 375 00:16:44,375 --> 00:16:46,250 of the Clovis culture, thought by some to be 376 00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:48,250 the first inhabitants of the Americas. 377 00:16:48,375 --> 00:16:51,833 - Clovis was not a culture that gathered 378 00:16:52,042 --> 00:16:54,792 in large groups of people or in sedentary ways. 379 00:16:54,958 --> 00:16:56,333 They were hunter gatherers. 380 00:16:56,500 --> 00:17:01,375 They traveled, and that's how they survived. 381 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:04,000 - [Tony] So if it's unlikely the nomadic Clovis 382 00:17:04,125 --> 00:17:06,375 would build a permanent site like Crescentus, 383 00:17:06,542 --> 00:17:08,250 what about the humdrum explanation 384 00:17:08,458 --> 00:17:11,250 that this is just an artificial reef from more modern times 385 00:17:11,417 --> 00:17:13,500 built as a habitat for marine life? 386 00:17:13,708 --> 00:17:16,583 - Typically when we make reefs, 387 00:17:16,708 --> 00:17:19,042 we don't make them out of stone. 388 00:17:19,208 --> 00:17:23,167 We use things like tires and other lighter material 389 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:27,042 that works just as well for creating natural reefs. 390 00:17:27,208 --> 00:17:29,958 - [Tony] Physicist Matthew Szydagis weighs another theory. 391 00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:32,000 Could these granite blocks have been ballast 392 00:17:32,083 --> 00:17:33,292 dropped from European ships 393 00:17:33,375 --> 00:17:35,708 colonizing the area centuries ago? 394 00:17:35,833 --> 00:17:39,125 - At one point ballast blocks were needed on ships 395 00:17:39,208 --> 00:17:43,792 to lower their center of mass in order to increase 396 00:17:43,917 --> 00:17:45,250 the stability of the ship. 397 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:49,000 Then these rocks may get dumped. 398 00:17:49,167 --> 00:17:51,125 - [Tony] The ballast stones were normally discarded 399 00:17:51,333 --> 00:17:52,333 in order to keep the weight the same 400 00:17:52,625 --> 00:17:54,958 as ships pulled into port to pick up new cargo. 401 00:17:55,083 --> 00:17:57,333 - However, calculations have been done 402 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:01,167 that show you'd need at least three dozen ships or more 403 00:18:01,292 --> 00:18:04,667 to have dumped their ballast all in this one location. 404 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:06,708 It just doesn't make any sense. 405 00:18:06,875 --> 00:18:07,833 - [Tony] So what about the theory 406 00:18:08,083 --> 00:18:10,000 that the electromagnetic energy detected here 407 00:18:10,167 --> 00:18:12,167 is evidence of a lost pyramid? 408 00:18:12,292 --> 00:18:14,500 NASA geologist, Bob Anderson, investigates. 409 00:18:14,583 --> 00:18:18,333 - If you take a rock that has a magnetic field in it 410 00:18:18,542 --> 00:18:21,000 and you take it out of place and drop it, 411 00:18:21,125 --> 00:18:22,625 it still has the magnetic field in it. 412 00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:25,042 That magnetic field is frozen in those crystals. 413 00:18:25,208 --> 00:18:27,333 So it would not surprise me that if somebody 414 00:18:27,417 --> 00:18:29,750 took a magnetometer down there and looked at these rocks, 415 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:32,500 that they would have a very localized magnetic field 416 00:18:32,667 --> 00:18:35,625 from somewhere else where the magnetic field is strong. 417 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:37,917 - [Tony] Then could this actually be a lost city? 418 00:18:38,125 --> 00:18:40,333 - Sea level can change over time, 419 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:43,500 and so I think it makes sense that you may have a city 420 00:18:43,625 --> 00:18:47,083 that's farther than where the coast currently ends. 421 00:18:48,625 --> 00:18:50,625 (tense music) 422 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:55,958 - Our verdict? These are possible city ruins. 423 00:18:56,083 --> 00:18:58,083 We know these rocks don't belong there, 424 00:18:58,208 --> 00:19:00,667 and we don't think it's an artificial reef. 425 00:19:00,792 --> 00:19:04,208 And as Professor Szydagis said, sea levels have risen 426 00:19:04,375 --> 00:19:06,833 in the gulf dramatically over the millennia. 427 00:19:06,958 --> 00:19:08,625 But we also need to be cautious. 428 00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:11,167 More research needs to be done before we know for sure 429 00:19:11,375 --> 00:19:12,250 what we're looking at. 430 00:19:15,875 --> 00:19:18,542 - The first prototype of a handheld mobile phone 431 00:19:18,667 --> 00:19:21,833 was introduced in the 1970s, and as we know, 432 00:19:21,958 --> 00:19:25,500 the technology has advanced by leaps and bounds since. 433 00:19:25,625 --> 00:19:28,417 But what if we have found proof that time travelers 434 00:19:28,500 --> 00:19:31,042 from the future brought this technology 435 00:19:31,208 --> 00:19:34,000 to people of the past? 436 00:19:34,083 --> 00:19:37,042 In November 2017, just as people are clamoring 437 00:19:37,167 --> 00:19:38,542 to get their hands on the latest iPhone, 438 00:19:38,750 --> 00:19:41,000 the internet is sent into a frenzy, 439 00:19:41,167 --> 00:19:43,042 not by some viral dance craze, 440 00:19:43,208 --> 00:19:46,125 but by a 19th century Austrian painting. 441 00:19:46,292 --> 00:19:48,000 A photo of The Expected One 442 00:19:48,167 --> 00:19:50,250 by artist Ferdinand Georg Waldmuller 443 00:19:50,375 --> 00:19:52,375 starts getting a lot of attention on Twitter. 444 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,292 - A lot of people online point out 445 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:57,750 that in her hands there is something very strange 446 00:19:57,875 --> 00:19:58,958 and definitely out of place. 447 00:19:59,333 --> 00:20:03,542 It looks to be like she's checking her Instagram or TikTok 448 00:20:03,667 --> 00:20:04,625 on a smartphone. 449 00:20:05,042 --> 00:20:07,292 - [Tony] Keep in mind, this picture was painted in 1860. 450 00:20:07,458 --> 00:20:09,167 The girl's pose is unmistakably 451 00:20:09,250 --> 00:20:11,667 that of a distracted pedestrian from today 452 00:20:11,875 --> 00:20:13,333 staring at a handheld device. 453 00:20:13,458 --> 00:20:15,333 People online immediately speculated 454 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:17,333 this could be evidence someone in the future 455 00:20:17,417 --> 00:20:19,500 invented the ability to travel back centuries 456 00:20:19,667 --> 00:20:22,333 and brought back a sample of advanced technology. 457 00:20:22,542 --> 00:20:24,292 This is also not the first historic painting 458 00:20:24,417 --> 00:20:26,667 where 21st century technology was spotted. 459 00:20:26,833 --> 00:20:30,333 This 1937 mural by Umberto Romano seems to show 460 00:20:30,542 --> 00:20:33,667 a Native American staring into his own smartphone, 461 00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:36,500 and this depiction of God and Jesus in an Italian church 462 00:20:36,667 --> 00:20:38,792 fresco from the 1600s had people seeing 463 00:20:38,917 --> 00:20:40,083 something else from the heavens. 464 00:20:40,458 --> 00:20:44,500 - A lot of people online claim that this image of the earth 465 00:20:44,708 --> 00:20:49,500 with these antennae strongly resembles the Sputnik satellite 466 00:20:49,667 --> 00:20:52,667 launched by the Soviet Union in the late 1950s. 467 00:20:52,750 --> 00:20:54,375 - [Tony] But how would late Renaissance painter 468 00:20:54,542 --> 00:20:56,917 Ventura Salimbany, know what our early 469 00:20:57,125 --> 00:20:58,583 satellite technology looked like? 470 00:20:58,792 --> 00:21:00,500 Could he have been a visionary genius, 471 00:21:00,583 --> 00:21:02,958 like Leonardo da Vinci, who prefigured the airplane 472 00:21:03,125 --> 00:21:05,292 with this device called the ornithopter? 473 00:21:05,375 --> 00:21:07,875 Or did someone from the future really go back in time? 474 00:21:10,375 --> 00:21:13,667 We now know Michelangelo secretly painted anatomically 475 00:21:13,833 --> 00:21:15,500 accurate images of the human brain 476 00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:17,917 on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. 477 00:21:18,042 --> 00:21:21,458 So painters can sneak secret images into their work, 478 00:21:21,542 --> 00:21:24,333 but an artist hiding evidence of future time travelers 479 00:21:24,458 --> 00:21:26,625 would be even more mind blowing. 480 00:21:26,792 --> 00:21:28,750 So is that what we're seeing here? 481 00:21:28,875 --> 00:21:30,625 Our experts enlighten us. 482 00:21:30,750 --> 00:21:32,833 (tense music) 483 00:21:34,458 --> 00:21:37,417 First, we asked physicist Dr. Hakeem Oluseyi 484 00:21:37,583 --> 00:21:40,208 if time travel is even theoretically possible. 485 00:21:40,375 --> 00:21:42,833 - The laws of physics do allow for time travel 486 00:21:43,042 --> 00:21:44,375 under certain situations. 487 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:46,500 One of them is when you have a wormhole. 488 00:21:46,708 --> 00:21:49,000 If you move around one end of the wormhole 489 00:21:49,167 --> 00:21:50,667 at near the speed of light, 490 00:21:50,833 --> 00:21:53,458 someone could actually exit the wormhole 491 00:21:53,542 --> 00:21:56,917 before they entered it, meaning they went backwards in time. 492 00:21:57,917 --> 00:22:00,667 - [Tony] So it's theoretically possible, but is it probable? 493 00:22:00,833 --> 00:22:02,542 We showed the paintings to Mick West. 494 00:22:02,667 --> 00:22:04,500 He says these modern looking objects 495 00:22:04,583 --> 00:22:07,125 don't quite add up to clear proof some later generations 496 00:22:07,333 --> 00:22:09,500 solved the time travel equation. 497 00:22:09,583 --> 00:22:11,750 - If time travelers were coming from a thousand years 498 00:22:11,917 --> 00:22:14,667 in the future, they would bring things from their time. 499 00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:17,833 I don't think they would stop off in the early 21st century 500 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,292 and pick something up and then go back to the 18th century. 501 00:22:21,375 --> 00:22:23,167 - [Tony] So it seems likely the smartphones 502 00:22:23,333 --> 00:22:24,833 are being mistaken for something else. 503 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,333 But what? 504 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,208 - For the lady that's walking in the meadow, 505 00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:32,000 it was very common to have these little books 506 00:22:32,167 --> 00:22:37,167 that were devotions, or just little religious scriptures. 507 00:22:37,375 --> 00:22:40,042 We have those little hymnals in museums 508 00:22:40,208 --> 00:22:42,000 that are about roughly the same size 509 00:22:42,167 --> 00:22:44,167 the date from that same period. 510 00:22:44,292 --> 00:22:46,042 - [Tony] And as for the Sputnik satellite? 511 00:22:46,208 --> 00:22:48,375 - Between the Christ figure and God 512 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:52,292 is this huge sphere, which is called a creation globe. 513 00:22:52,375 --> 00:22:54,500 The antenna are actually scepters 514 00:22:54,625 --> 00:22:55,708 that God and Christ are holding. 515 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,958 The Renaissance artist artist was trying to envision 516 00:22:59,125 --> 00:23:03,667 this whole idea of creation with his artistic license. 517 00:23:03,875 --> 00:23:05,583 - [Tony] Clearly, a lot of internet users jumped 518 00:23:05,792 --> 00:23:07,333 to the same wrong conclusion, 519 00:23:07,417 --> 00:23:08,792 and there's a good reason for that. 520 00:23:08,958 --> 00:23:10,792 - When our children and grandchildren 521 00:23:10,958 --> 00:23:12,875 look back on the artwork that we've done, 522 00:23:13,042 --> 00:23:15,458 they may be scratching their heads and wondering 523 00:23:15,583 --> 00:23:18,208 what is that object he's holding in his hand? 524 00:23:18,375 --> 00:23:19,500 - [Tony] So by the time our descendants 525 00:23:19,875 --> 00:23:22,792 look at artwork from today, technology will have moved on 526 00:23:22,958 --> 00:23:25,333 and they may similarly confuse certain objects 527 00:23:25,458 --> 00:23:28,333 for newer technology that has since emerged. 528 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:30,625 (tense music) 529 00:23:32,542 --> 00:23:35,792 Our verdict? A collective case of misidentification. 530 00:23:35,958 --> 00:23:37,958 We can't rule out that somebody in the future 531 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:41,292 has unlocked the secret of traveling to the past, 532 00:23:41,375 --> 00:23:43,958 since even scientists of today say space and time 533 00:23:44,125 --> 00:23:45,292 are not absolutes. 534 00:23:45,708 --> 00:23:48,625 But these paintings are not proof of that being the case. 535 00:23:52,375 --> 00:23:54,083 - Over the years, we've heard a lot 536 00:23:54,208 --> 00:23:56,375 of different scenarios that describe how life on earth 537 00:23:56,542 --> 00:23:57,917 might one day end. 538 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,833 Disease, meteors, even deadly gamma rays, 539 00:24:01,958 --> 00:24:04,667 but a rogue planet slamming into Earth? 540 00:24:04,833 --> 00:24:06,500 Well, according to some, it was predicted 541 00:24:06,625 --> 00:24:08,250 thousands of years ago, 542 00:24:08,458 --> 00:24:10,167 and our next video might be evidence 543 00:24:10,375 --> 00:24:12,542 that it may happen sooner than we think. 544 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,458 September 30th, 2018. 545 00:24:15,583 --> 00:24:17,875 It's a sunny, blue sky day in the suburbs 546 00:24:18,042 --> 00:24:19,500 of Indianapolis, Indiana. 547 00:24:19,667 --> 00:24:21,375 After purchasing a brand new camera, 548 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:23,375 Scott Hansen steps into his backyard 549 00:24:23,500 --> 00:24:25,500 looking for something interesting to photograph, 550 00:24:25,667 --> 00:24:27,833 and glances up to see the daytime moon. 551 00:24:28,042 --> 00:24:30,042 He takes out his camera and points it skyward, 552 00:24:30,167 --> 00:24:33,500 but then, zooming in, is shocked to see this. 553 00:24:33,667 --> 00:24:35,500 An oval-shaped object appears to be hovering 554 00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:37,083 just above the moon. 555 00:24:37,167 --> 00:24:38,125 Look closely. 556 00:24:38,375 --> 00:24:39,833 You can see it has a bright white outline 557 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,333 with a darker interior. 558 00:24:41,542 --> 00:24:43,167 Then, as Scott continues to film, 559 00:24:43,292 --> 00:24:45,292 it slowly disappears behind the moon. 560 00:24:45,458 --> 00:24:47,375 - I posted it to YouTube immediately. 561 00:24:47,542 --> 00:24:49,875 I had a lot of people excited, 562 00:24:50,042 --> 00:24:52,875 and some people thought it might be from out of this world. 563 00:24:53,042 --> 00:24:54,333 - [Tony] So what is it? 564 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:55,625 According to writer Amy Teitel, 565 00:24:55,792 --> 00:24:57,167 some believe we may be witnessing 566 00:24:57,292 --> 00:24:59,000 an ancient prophecy coming true. 567 00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:01,583 - Some people watching this video theorized 568 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:05,500 that the object near the moon is the planet of Nibiru, 569 00:25:05,583 --> 00:25:08,375 which is part of a end of the world prophecy 570 00:25:08,542 --> 00:25:11,083 that said Earth and Nibiru would collide 571 00:25:11,208 --> 00:25:15,167 in a cataclysmic event, effectively ending the world. 572 00:25:15,333 --> 00:25:16,500 - [Tony] Believers will tell you 573 00:25:16,708 --> 00:25:18,167 the proof has been recorded in antiquity. 574 00:25:18,333 --> 00:25:19,833 - There are some modern writers 575 00:25:19,958 --> 00:25:22,083 who have pointed to Sumerian tablets 576 00:25:22,208 --> 00:25:25,000 as having record that Nibiru has an orbital period 577 00:25:25,208 --> 00:25:26,708 of 3,600 years. 578 00:25:26,833 --> 00:25:29,667 People who believe in Nibiru's existence 579 00:25:29,833 --> 00:25:32,083 generally believe that it orbits the sun, 580 00:25:32,250 --> 00:25:35,583 but that it can come very close to the moon's orbit 581 00:25:35,708 --> 00:25:37,500 with some regularity. 582 00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:44,208 - While the idea of an unknown planet may seem like fantasy, 583 00:25:44,375 --> 00:25:48,583 in 2015, researchers at Caltech found mathematical evidence 584 00:25:48,708 --> 00:25:53,167 suggesting there may be a Planet X deep in our solar system. 585 00:25:53,375 --> 00:25:57,625 It's hypothetically a gas giant in a highly elongated orbit 586 00:25:57,833 --> 00:26:00,667 and may take between 10,000 and 20,000 Earth years 587 00:26:00,833 --> 00:26:03,708 to make one revolution around the sun. 588 00:26:03,875 --> 00:26:07,833 Is this object some other type of previously unknown world? 589 00:26:07,917 --> 00:26:10,708 And if not, what the heck is it? 590 00:26:10,875 --> 00:26:12,625 Let's see what our experts think. 591 00:26:12,708 --> 00:26:15,042 (tense music) 592 00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:18,667 We begin with aviation expert, Tim McMillan. 593 00:26:18,833 --> 00:26:20,083 Could we just be seeing something 594 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:21,500 that is supposed to be up there, 595 00:26:21,625 --> 00:26:23,792 like, say, the International Space Station? 596 00:26:23,917 --> 00:26:24,792 - The International Space Station 597 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,000 moves around the earth relatively fast. 598 00:26:28,167 --> 00:26:31,833 It would appear to be just a small speck in the sky 599 00:26:31,958 --> 00:26:34,417 as it's traveling across, 600 00:26:34,542 --> 00:26:37,500 but this appears to be moving behind the moon, 601 00:26:37,625 --> 00:26:39,833 so that doesn't make sense. 602 00:26:39,917 --> 00:26:41,875 - [Tony] McMillan also points out an important clue 603 00:26:42,042 --> 00:26:44,667 which confirms it can't be any other human made object. 604 00:26:44,833 --> 00:26:46,333 - Now, it looks really tiny 605 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:47,750 when we're looking through this viewfinder, 606 00:26:47,875 --> 00:26:49,750 but if we were to put this comparatively 607 00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:53,833 of how big it would be to the moon, this is huge. 608 00:26:53,958 --> 00:26:55,917 - [Tony] In fact, as the moon has a circumference 609 00:26:56,042 --> 00:26:59,125 of almost 6,800 miles, this object would have to be 610 00:26:59,292 --> 00:27:01,292 about 100 miles across. 611 00:27:01,375 --> 00:27:04,125 So McMillan thinks there may be another possibility. 612 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:06,917 - But that perfect circle that you see here 613 00:27:07,042 --> 00:27:09,208 makes me question if we're looking at a artifact 614 00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:10,250 of the camera system. 615 00:27:10,542 --> 00:27:12,000 Something that's happening with the lens 616 00:27:12,167 --> 00:27:13,958 of the actual camera that's filming it. 617 00:27:14,083 --> 00:27:16,333 - [Tony] Could this just be a camera defect? 618 00:27:16,458 --> 00:27:17,333 We take that question 619 00:27:17,542 --> 00:27:19,208 to astrophotographer Andrew McCarthy. 620 00:27:19,375 --> 00:27:23,417 - I spend my entire life observing celestial objects. 621 00:27:23,542 --> 00:27:26,917 This doesn't really seem to be an artifact. 622 00:27:27,042 --> 00:27:30,208 That wouldn't make sense, because the movement appears 623 00:27:30,375 --> 00:27:32,208 to travel behind the moon. 624 00:27:32,375 --> 00:27:34,833 - [Tony] If it's not manmade or a camera artifact, 625 00:27:34,958 --> 00:27:36,042 could it be a planet? 626 00:27:36,375 --> 00:27:41,167 - This video was captured in September 30th, 2018, 627 00:27:41,292 --> 00:27:43,625 and we know, during this time, Venus was actually 628 00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:46,500 on the opposite side of the sky from the moon. 629 00:27:46,583 --> 00:27:49,000 So we can safely rule out Venus, 630 00:27:49,208 --> 00:27:51,958 but Jupiter and Saturn are both actually visible 631 00:27:52,125 --> 00:27:54,833 during the day, however those were also very far away 632 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,083 from the moon at the time this was taken. 633 00:27:57,250 --> 00:27:59,667 - [Tony] However, McCarthy does see a clue in the shadows, 634 00:27:59,833 --> 00:28:01,583 which he believes solves the mystery. 635 00:28:01,708 --> 00:28:04,000 - When photographing the moon during the day, 636 00:28:04,125 --> 00:28:07,167 the dark side of the moon is going to be invisible. 637 00:28:07,333 --> 00:28:09,792 But when you look at this video, 638 00:28:09,958 --> 00:28:12,875 you see almost like an increase in saturation 639 00:28:13,042 --> 00:28:15,083 right along the terminator line. 640 00:28:15,208 --> 00:28:17,167 - [Tony] The terminator is the line that divides 641 00:28:17,375 --> 00:28:20,708 the daylight side and dark night side of a planetary body. 642 00:28:21,625 --> 00:28:24,167 - That suggests to me that this video 643 00:28:24,333 --> 00:28:27,958 was potentially a photograph or a video of the moon 644 00:28:28,167 --> 00:28:33,167 taken at night and then superimposed onto a daytime sky. 645 00:28:33,333 --> 00:28:35,500 - [Tony] That leads us to our ace video forensic analyst, 646 00:28:35,667 --> 00:28:36,667 Michael Primeau. 647 00:28:36,917 --> 00:28:39,292 - So the first step is to look at the metadata 648 00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:42,583 and within the EXIF information, there are signatures 649 00:28:42,708 --> 00:28:45,292 from After Effects that indicate specific layers 650 00:28:45,417 --> 00:28:49,375 in After Effects, including precomps, spotlights, 651 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,000 other layers of footage. 652 00:28:51,167 --> 00:28:52,917 So there were a lot of different ingredients 653 00:28:53,042 --> 00:28:55,500 that went into this video, which leads us to 654 00:28:55,625 --> 00:28:58,000 that the video is is cooked. 655 00:28:58,125 --> 00:28:59,667 - [Tony] Once we presented the evidence to Scott, 656 00:28:59,833 --> 00:29:00,708 he came clean. 657 00:29:00,917 --> 00:29:02,667 - I like people to watch my videos 658 00:29:02,792 --> 00:29:04,333 and consider whether or not they're real or fake. 659 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:07,667 I really enjoy evoking that emotional response in people. 660 00:29:07,833 --> 00:29:10,083 (tense music) 661 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:12,958 - So there you have it. 662 00:29:13,250 --> 00:29:17,667 Our verdict? Just a classic YouTube hoax for clicks, 663 00:29:17,833 --> 00:29:20,042 but the next one might not be. 664 00:29:20,208 --> 00:29:22,417 With a recent launch of the James Webb telescope, 665 00:29:22,542 --> 00:29:25,458 we're hoping scientists are going to be on the lookout 666 00:29:25,583 --> 00:29:27,792 for that theoretical Planet X, 667 00:29:27,917 --> 00:29:29,833 which could lie way past Pluto. 668 00:29:33,542 --> 00:29:35,167 - Ancient Chinae may be best known 669 00:29:35,292 --> 00:29:38,000 for the 13,000 mile long Great Wall, 670 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:40,042 but some of the country's greatest treasures, 671 00:29:40,208 --> 00:29:43,167 like the terracotta warriors, were long hidden from view 672 00:29:43,375 --> 00:29:45,333 under the earth, and one of these amazing 673 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:49,250 subterranean sites seems to defy all explanation. 674 00:29:50,208 --> 00:29:52,542 It's March 2018 in Longyou, China, 675 00:29:52,708 --> 00:29:55,375 about 200 southwest of Shanghai. 676 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:58,250 Researcher Andrew Kuznetzov is visiting the area 677 00:29:58,375 --> 00:30:01,417 to see what some call the Ninth Wonder of the Ancient World. 678 00:30:02,875 --> 00:30:05,833 His footage reveals a gigantic cavern with huge pillars 679 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,500 supporting a 60 to 100 foot high sloped ceiling. 680 00:30:09,667 --> 00:30:11,042 The walls are covered in a series 681 00:30:11,167 --> 00:30:13,875 of parallel chiseled lines and symbols, 682 00:30:14,042 --> 00:30:16,125 including stone carvings of animals. 683 00:30:36,792 --> 00:30:38,500 - [Tony] Journalist Erin McCarthy says the caves 684 00:30:38,667 --> 00:30:40,833 were only recently discovered in 1992 685 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,625 when four farmers were trying to drain 686 00:30:43,792 --> 00:30:45,708 what legend said was a bottomless lake 687 00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:47,500 gifted from the gods. 688 00:30:47,667 --> 00:30:49,500 - When they drained the first pond, 689 00:30:49,667 --> 00:30:52,083 they discovered a huge cavern. 690 00:30:52,208 --> 00:30:53,958 They ended up draining a bunch more ponds, 691 00:30:54,083 --> 00:30:57,333 and in all, they discovered 24 caverns. 692 00:30:57,542 --> 00:31:01,000 But the average size of the caverns is 11,000 square feet, 693 00:31:01,208 --> 00:31:04,000 which is seven times bigger than the average American House. 694 00:31:04,167 --> 00:31:06,708 - [Tony] Archeologists believe these underground grottoes 695 00:31:06,875 --> 00:31:09,333 were carved by hand more than 2000 years ago 696 00:31:09,542 --> 00:31:10,583 during the Han Dynasty. 697 00:31:10,875 --> 00:31:12,833 And what's even more remarkable is that the walls 698 00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:15,750 and columns supporting the caves are relatively thin, 699 00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:17,792 yet they have remained intact for millennia, 700 00:31:17,958 --> 00:31:20,292 despite seismic activity in the area. 701 00:31:20,458 --> 00:31:23,250 Still, though this is considered a wonder of the world, 702 00:31:23,375 --> 00:31:25,500 unlike the Pyramids and the Colosseum, 703 00:31:25,708 --> 00:31:27,917 there's no universally accepted idea 704 00:31:28,083 --> 00:31:30,583 of what it was used for, which is rather bizarre. 705 00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:32,375 - Some have speculated that perhaps 706 00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:34,875 this is some kind of underground palace, 707 00:31:35,042 --> 00:31:36,667 or a tomb for an emperor. 708 00:31:36,792 --> 00:31:38,583 The first emperor of China was buried 709 00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:41,042 with 8,000 terracotta soldiers. 710 00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:43,250 Another theory is that this was always meant 711 00:31:43,417 --> 00:31:44,458 to be a reservoir. 712 00:31:44,708 --> 00:31:46,833 - [Tony] Whatever its purpose, the network of caves 713 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,875 is so massive and detailed that it seems it would be 714 00:31:49,042 --> 00:31:51,667 nearly impossible to construct with only the hand tools 715 00:31:51,833 --> 00:31:53,333 available back in ancient China. 716 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,167 - Experts have estimated that it would've taken 717 00:31:56,375 --> 00:32:00,667 1,000 people working 24 hours a day for six years 718 00:32:00,833 --> 00:32:02,917 to carve out all of these caverns. 719 00:32:03,125 --> 00:32:04,958 Workers would've had to remove nearly a million 720 00:32:05,125 --> 00:32:06,667 cubic meters of rock. 721 00:32:09,083 --> 00:32:11,958 - Some questions that add to the mystery, 722 00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:16,167 if workers excavated all that rock, then where did it go? 723 00:32:16,333 --> 00:32:20,042 And why were no tools found in or near the caverns? 724 00:32:20,167 --> 00:32:22,625 There's also no mention of the caves in any written records, 725 00:32:22,792 --> 00:32:26,667 so no one even knew they existed until 30 years ago. 726 00:32:26,833 --> 00:32:28,708 Let's see what our experts can unearth. 727 00:32:28,833 --> 00:32:30,917 (tense music) 728 00:32:32,833 --> 00:32:34,583 Archeologist Dr. Ed Barnhart considers 729 00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:37,083 whether this cave system could be an ancient palace. 730 00:32:37,292 --> 00:32:41,042 - A palace has a number of different functions 731 00:32:41,208 --> 00:32:45,042 and individual rooms for privacy. 732 00:32:45,208 --> 00:32:50,083 The kind of individual spaces that a palace needs 733 00:32:50,208 --> 00:32:53,125 to function are not indicated in these caverns. 734 00:32:53,250 --> 00:32:54,833 - [Tony] Then since they're so elaborate, 735 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,208 could they have been burial chambers, 736 00:32:56,375 --> 00:32:58,875 like with the emperor's terracotta warriors? 737 00:32:59,042 --> 00:33:01,750 Anthropologist Kathy Strain thinks it's unlikely. 738 00:33:01,875 --> 00:33:03,000 - They have to continually pump this 739 00:33:03,333 --> 00:33:07,000 because water keeps getting in it from natural sources. 740 00:33:07,167 --> 00:33:11,292 I would not assume that someone would wanna bury somebody 741 00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,542 in a constructed cave that continually filled with water. 742 00:33:16,583 --> 00:33:18,500 - [Tony] Others have wondered if the caves were used 743 00:33:18,583 --> 00:33:21,292 by miners to extract some valuable mineral. 744 00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:24,167 But no trace of mining equipment has ever been found. 745 00:33:24,333 --> 00:33:27,167 And since these spaces seem to fill naturally with water, 746 00:33:27,292 --> 00:33:28,833 Strain suggests they could have been 747 00:33:29,042 --> 00:33:31,167 originally created as reservoirs. 748 00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:34,875 - They were precisely built so that water coming down 749 00:33:35,042 --> 00:33:37,667 from rain or a monsoon would get captured 750 00:33:37,875 --> 00:33:39,750 into these caverns and that it'd be used 751 00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:41,917 by the local people for a water source. 752 00:33:42,083 --> 00:33:44,500 It's like a big gutter, and it's all focused 753 00:33:44,708 --> 00:33:46,250 to go into the caverns. 754 00:33:46,458 --> 00:33:48,125 - [Tony] Yet Barnhart isn't so sure. 755 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:51,083 - If these were reservoirs, why would they bother 756 00:33:51,208 --> 00:33:55,333 carving the walls in these nice linear formations? 757 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,417 - [Tony] Barnhart thinks there might be another explanation 758 00:33:57,583 --> 00:33:59,458 for why water was welcomed in this space. 759 00:33:59,625 --> 00:34:02,875 - The very few objects that that we have found 760 00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:07,000 in these caverns are from the Han Dynasty. 761 00:34:07,208 --> 00:34:13,000 The Han Dynasty was famous for its silk technology. 762 00:34:13,167 --> 00:34:17,250 The weaving of silk is best done 763 00:34:17,417 --> 00:34:19,458 in a very humid environment. 764 00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:22,125 With those parallel lines that are really 765 00:34:22,250 --> 00:34:25,958 kind of overhangs, each one of them creating places 766 00:34:26,125 --> 00:34:28,542 where the condensation would rise the humidity 767 00:34:28,708 --> 00:34:30,500 within this environment. 768 00:34:30,625 --> 00:34:32,000 - [Tony] For six weeks after they hatch, 769 00:34:32,125 --> 00:34:33,917 silkworms eat mulberry leaves, 770 00:34:34,083 --> 00:34:36,375 and then start spinning their silk cocoons. 771 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:40,125 Scientists have found around 75% humidity is ideal 772 00:34:40,292 --> 00:34:41,792 for silkworm growth. 773 00:34:41,958 --> 00:34:43,875 It helps keep the leaves from withering. 774 00:34:44,042 --> 00:34:45,875 Once the cocoons are ready, they are boiled 775 00:34:46,042 --> 00:34:47,667 to soften them into threads. 776 00:34:47,792 --> 00:34:51,167 The threads are dyed, spun, and woven into fabric, 777 00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:54,125 with humid air keeping the natural fibers more pliable. 778 00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:56,333 (tense music) 779 00:34:58,417 --> 00:34:59,333 Our verdict? 780 00:34:59,542 --> 00:35:02,000 The true purpose behind these mysterious caves 781 00:35:02,083 --> 00:35:03,708 remains unknown. 782 00:35:03,875 --> 00:35:07,042 Barnhart's theory about them being used for silk making 783 00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:09,833 is intriguing, but there's no smoking gun. 784 00:35:09,917 --> 00:35:13,458 Archeologists haven't found any artifacts like looms, 785 00:35:13,583 --> 00:35:17,750 silkworm cocoons, or minerals for dyes in or near the caves. 786 00:35:21,542 --> 00:35:24,167 - In a previous episode, we brought you a fascinating story 787 00:35:24,333 --> 00:35:28,417 about an alleged UFO caught on camera by the Chilean Navy. 788 00:35:28,583 --> 00:35:31,500 This image here not only stumped the Chilean military 789 00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:34,250 for years, but after examining it, 790 00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:37,375 we couldn't find a definitive answer either. 791 00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:40,000 However, one of our experts, Mick West, 792 00:35:40,167 --> 00:35:42,833 wasn't satisfied with that explanation, 793 00:35:42,958 --> 00:35:44,750 and he decided to dig deeper. 794 00:35:46,125 --> 00:35:48,167 November 11th, 2014. 795 00:35:48,292 --> 00:35:50,458 A Chilean Navy helicopter is on a routine patrol 796 00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:53,167 off the coast near the capitol of Santiago. 797 00:35:53,292 --> 00:35:54,750 They're testing out a FLIR camera, 798 00:35:54,875 --> 00:35:57,375 which stands for forward-looking infrared, 799 00:35:57,542 --> 00:35:59,500 when the pilot suddenly observes this. 800 00:36:02,083 --> 00:36:04,333 Two large orbs appear to overlap each other, 801 00:36:04,458 --> 00:36:07,333 then seem to release a plume of gas. 802 00:36:07,458 --> 00:36:10,458 The helicopter hails the craft by radio with no response, 803 00:36:10,542 --> 00:36:12,500 and it doesn't show up on their radar. 804 00:36:12,625 --> 00:36:14,833 The Chilean military spent two years bringing in 805 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,667 an array of different experts to try to figure out 806 00:36:16,875 --> 00:36:17,833 what this was. 807 00:36:18,208 --> 00:36:20,083 - They went through all the possibilities 808 00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:21,500 that they thought it might be, 809 00:36:21,708 --> 00:36:23,833 and one by one, they eliminated them. 810 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,958 Ultimately, they weren't able to identify 811 00:36:26,125 --> 00:36:27,250 what was in the video. 812 00:36:27,708 --> 00:36:30,208 - [Tony] Chile has been a well known UFO hotspot for decades. 813 00:36:30,333 --> 00:36:32,833 In one report from May 2018, 814 00:36:33,042 --> 00:36:34,417 the crew of six commercial aircraft 815 00:36:34,542 --> 00:36:36,667 independently and simultaneously spotted 816 00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:40,167 three triangular light sources flying in the skies. 817 00:36:40,375 --> 00:36:42,875 So when this video stumped the Chilean military, 818 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,417 our team took on the challenge, 819 00:36:44,583 --> 00:36:45,875 but didn't have enough information 820 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,667 to come to a definitive conclusion. 821 00:36:47,792 --> 00:36:50,667 - The Chilean video has an object that has 822 00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:52,500 all the appearances of being something 823 00:36:52,583 --> 00:36:55,375 that we would think of as being an aircraft, 824 00:36:55,542 --> 00:36:57,125 but we just don't know for sure. 825 00:36:57,250 --> 00:36:59,375 (dramatic music) 826 00:37:00,333 --> 00:37:02,708 - While our original analysis indicated 827 00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:06,417 this mysterious object was possibly an aircraft, 828 00:37:06,542 --> 00:37:08,333 in the end, without hard evidence, 829 00:37:08,417 --> 00:37:11,333 we classified it as a genuine UFO, 830 00:37:11,458 --> 00:37:14,500 at least until we could get more information. 831 00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:16,792 But video analyst and science writer Mick West 832 00:37:16,875 --> 00:37:19,625 told us later, he'd done his own investigation 833 00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:22,458 with his team at the website Metabunk. 834 00:37:22,625 --> 00:37:24,167 They may have solved in four days 835 00:37:24,292 --> 00:37:27,583 what the Chilean government couldn't in two years. 836 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:29,875 (tense music) 837 00:37:31,375 --> 00:37:34,250 First, West says that the original analysis was right 838 00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:35,917 to suspect an airplane, 839 00:37:36,125 --> 00:37:37,292 and that the plume behind the object 840 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:38,542 is a distinctive hallmark. 841 00:37:38,958 --> 00:37:42,292 - I recognized what was coming out of the back of the plane 842 00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:46,167 was probably what's called an aerodynamic contrail, 843 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:49,167 which is a trail left behind a plane 844 00:37:49,208 --> 00:37:52,125 that usually appears at lower altitudes. 845 00:37:52,208 --> 00:37:53,875 - [Tony] Aerodynamic contrails are formed 846 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,583 because when a wing decreases the air pressure around it, 847 00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:58,458 it also lowers the air temperature. 848 00:37:58,625 --> 00:37:59,958 If there is high humidity, 849 00:38:00,083 --> 00:38:01,333 the drop in temperature and pressure 850 00:38:01,542 --> 00:38:03,333 can form a contrail cloud. 851 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:04,917 Then, as the plane continues on, 852 00:38:05,042 --> 00:38:07,792 we see the contrail disappear, likely because of a lack 853 00:38:07,875 --> 00:38:10,542 of available water vapor in the atmosphere. 854 00:38:10,625 --> 00:38:12,750 But why aren't we seeing the shape of a plane? 855 00:38:12,917 --> 00:38:14,042 West explains. 856 00:38:14,375 --> 00:38:17,375 - You'd expect to see a clear outline of a plane, 857 00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,500 but what we're actually seeing here 858 00:38:19,667 --> 00:38:23,208 is the infrared glare of the engines. 859 00:38:23,375 --> 00:38:25,500 Jet engines are very, very hot, 860 00:38:25,667 --> 00:38:27,333 especially when you're looking at them 861 00:38:27,458 --> 00:38:29,333 from almost directly behind. 862 00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:31,333 So what we're looking at here 863 00:38:31,458 --> 00:38:34,042 is glare from the engines obscuring the plane. 864 00:38:34,167 --> 00:38:35,500 - [Tony] But how can he prove it? 865 00:38:35,625 --> 00:38:37,417 - We have so much information on the screen. 866 00:38:37,625 --> 00:38:40,333 Right here, we have the date, 11th of November, 2014. 867 00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,792 We have the time. 868 00:38:41,917 --> 00:38:43,292 We have a compass heading. 869 00:38:43,458 --> 00:38:45,750 The aircraft's latitude and longitude. 870 00:38:45,875 --> 00:38:47,667 - [Tony] Mick creates the path of the helicopter, 871 00:38:47,833 --> 00:38:49,708 which as it turns out, runs alongside 872 00:38:49,875 --> 00:38:50,833 Santiago's main airport. 873 00:38:51,167 --> 00:38:53,750 - [Mick] So we looked up in the flight tracking software 874 00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:56,500 that was available, what planes were in that area, 875 00:38:56,667 --> 00:39:00,333 and we found Iberia Dixie A-30. 876 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:03,417 - Mick plots the coordinates of Iberia 68-30 on the map, 877 00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:05,292 along with the location of the helicopter. 878 00:39:05,417 --> 00:39:07,583 - Now, if we take the camera, 879 00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:10,417 where the helicopter actually is, 880 00:39:10,542 --> 00:39:13,875 we can actually take some of the images 881 00:39:14,042 --> 00:39:16,833 from the video, and we can actually fit them 882 00:39:16,917 --> 00:39:18,250 to what we're seeing here. 883 00:39:18,417 --> 00:39:21,792 We can see right here, the shape of the bay 884 00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:26,458 matches perfectly, and we can see right in the middle 885 00:39:27,542 --> 00:39:32,042 where the crosshairs are is exactly where Iberian 68-30 was. 886 00:39:32,167 --> 00:39:35,500 If you take a 3D model of a plane 887 00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:38,833 in the orientation for that path, it matches up 888 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,750 in size and in shape. 889 00:39:40,875 --> 00:39:44,417 So I'm 100% sure that this is the right plane. 890 00:39:44,542 --> 00:39:47,042 - [Tony] So after two years, why didn't the Chilean military 891 00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:48,667 come up with the same conclusion? 892 00:39:48,833 --> 00:39:51,542 Mick explains it began with the helicopter pilots. 893 00:39:51,708 --> 00:39:54,333 - They thought that this was about 20 miles 894 00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:56,667 in front of them, and so they looked in the radar 895 00:39:56,833 --> 00:39:59,167 on that area, and of course they didn't see the plane. 896 00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:00,208 The reason they didn't see the plane 897 00:40:00,417 --> 00:40:02,750 was that the plane was actually 40 miles away, 898 00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:04,333 not 20 miles away. 899 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:06,000 And in fact, at the end of the video, 900 00:40:06,208 --> 00:40:09,375 the plane is 100 miles away, because it has traveled 901 00:40:09,542 --> 00:40:12,458 such a long distance in that time. 902 00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:15,458 But all this time, they were looking in the wrong place. 903 00:40:16,375 --> 00:40:18,625 (tense music) 904 00:40:20,542 --> 00:40:24,125 - Our revised verdict? This is a commercial airplane. 905 00:40:24,292 --> 00:40:26,875 Thanks to Mick West and his team for solving that one, 906 00:40:27,042 --> 00:40:30,333 but what about all the other mysterious sightings over Chile? 907 00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:31,667 Well, maybe their official agency, 908 00:40:31,958 --> 00:40:35,000 the Committee for Studies of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena, 909 00:40:35,125 --> 00:40:38,083 should go to Mick the next time something unusual 910 00:40:38,208 --> 00:40:40,125 pops up in their skies. 911 00:40:40,250 --> 00:40:41,083 And that's our show for tonight. 912 00:40:41,375 --> 00:40:44,542 Send us your most unexplainable videos, 913 00:40:44,708 --> 00:40:46,917 and remember to keep those cameras rolling. 914 00:40:47,042 --> 00:40:49,625 (dramatic theme music)