1 00:00:02,377 --> 00:00:03,497 - Tonight, on The Proof Is Out There. 2 00:00:03,587 --> 00:00:04,877 A UFO in broad daylight? 3 00:00:04,963 --> 00:00:07,343 Is it connected to this notorious island? 4 00:00:07,424 --> 00:00:10,804 - The longer I look at it, the less it makes any sense. 5 00:00:10,886 --> 00:00:13,216 - [Tony] Is this a dead preserved mermaid? 6 00:00:13,305 --> 00:00:15,975 - This animal is obviously very important 7 00:00:16,058 --> 00:00:19,848 because it’s been held onto for 300 years. 8 00:00:19,937 --> 00:00:21,857 - [Tony] What is this beast with glowing eyes 9 00:00:21,939 --> 00:00:23,189 chasing a boat? 10 00:00:23,273 --> 00:00:26,033 - There’s all sorts of crazy things living in the jungle 11 00:00:26,109 --> 00:00:28,649 and this, apparently, is one of those crazy things. 12 00:00:29,738 --> 00:00:32,278 - [Tony] And was this ancient artifact a tool 13 00:00:32,407 --> 00:00:34,407 to communicate with another world? 14 00:00:34,493 --> 00:00:37,753 - There is a long tradition in the ancient world of oracles 15 00:00:37,829 --> 00:00:39,709 who would receive messages from the gods 16 00:00:39,790 --> 00:00:41,370 to bring down to the humans. 17 00:00:44,002 --> 00:00:46,212 (dramatic music) 18 00:00:46,296 --> 00:00:47,916 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 19 00:00:48,006 --> 00:00:49,626 - [Witness] What the heck is this? 20 00:00:49,758 --> 00:00:51,378 - [Witness 2] It’s moving. 21 00:00:51,468 --> 00:00:54,388 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 22 00:00:54,471 --> 00:00:57,101 (electric buzzing) 23 00:01:00,018 --> 00:01:02,228 - [Marc] Is it some kind of unidentified object? 24 00:01:02,312 --> 00:01:04,272 What’s exciting is nobody really knows. 25 00:01:05,274 --> 00:01:06,614 - [Tony] What are they? 26 00:01:06,692 --> 00:01:08,402 - [MJ] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 27 00:01:08,485 --> 00:01:11,605 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 28 00:01:13,615 --> 00:01:14,565 - I’m Tony Harris, 29 00:01:14,658 --> 00:01:17,078 and as a journalist for more than 30 years, 30 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,910 I’ve followed the facts where they take me. 31 00:01:19,997 --> 00:01:22,287 Now, I’m bringing that spirit of investigation 32 00:01:22,374 --> 00:01:24,964 to the world’s strangest sounds and images. 33 00:01:25,961 --> 00:01:28,801 We’ll analyze each one with top experts. 34 00:01:28,922 --> 00:01:31,882 - It’s a credible case. It’s a credible video. 35 00:01:31,967 --> 00:01:34,797 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 36 00:01:34,886 --> 00:01:36,806 - This video was clearly faked. 37 00:01:36,888 --> 00:01:38,768 - The proof starts now. 38 00:01:39,725 --> 00:01:42,445 (dramatic theme music) 39 00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:49,647 Good evening and welcome to The Proof Is Out There. 40 00:01:49,735 --> 00:01:53,205 You may think that the best thing to do at a park is picnic, 41 00:01:53,322 --> 00:01:57,282 enjoy nature, and take the kids for a run on the playground. 42 00:01:57,367 --> 00:02:00,577 But our next video may add a new activity to that list: 43 00:02:00,662 --> 00:02:02,122 UFO watching. 44 00:02:02,205 --> 00:02:03,615 Don’t think so? 45 00:02:03,707 --> 00:02:05,077 Take a look at this. 46 00:02:06,168 --> 00:02:09,588 January 30th, 2022, Laguna Niguel, California, 47 00:02:09,671 --> 00:02:11,091 Steven Greenstreet and his family 48 00:02:11,173 --> 00:02:13,013 are spending the day at Ocean Breeze Park 49 00:02:13,091 --> 00:02:15,761 when his wife points out a mysterious object in the sky. 50 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:17,054 - [Steven] Man! 51 00:02:17,179 --> 00:02:19,009 - [Tony] As Steven pierces through the branches of a tree, 52 00:02:19,097 --> 00:02:20,767 he begins to record this. 53 00:02:20,849 --> 00:02:22,309 - [Steven] No idea what the heck this is. 54 00:02:22,392 --> 00:02:23,812 - [Tony] Take a closer look. 55 00:02:23,894 --> 00:02:26,354 Steven zooms into an elongated shiny object 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,020 hovering in the clear blue sky. 57 00:02:29,024 --> 00:02:31,324 Now, we’ve seen plenty of UFOs on this show, 58 00:02:31,401 --> 00:02:33,491 but this one is kind of different. 59 00:02:33,570 --> 00:02:37,530 Look here, it appears to be made up of three different 60 00:02:37,658 --> 00:02:41,658 sections of circular or possibly cylindrical parts 61 00:02:41,745 --> 00:02:42,915 on top of each other. 62 00:02:43,038 --> 00:02:45,708 I’m not seeing any wings or visible means of propulsion, 63 00:02:45,791 --> 00:02:47,631 at least not at this angle. 64 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:49,879 Stephen shot it from multiple angles around the park 65 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:53,093 and he admits he has no idea what he’s seeing. 66 00:02:53,215 --> 00:02:56,975 - The longer I look at it, the less it makes any sense. 67 00:02:57,052 --> 00:02:58,052 Because there was wind, 68 00:02:58,136 --> 00:03:01,056 but this object was stuck in the sky. 69 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:04,019 I was just baffled as to what the heck this could be. 70 00:03:04,101 --> 00:03:07,771 Yep, I swear to God it’s been there 20 minutes. 71 00:03:07,896 --> 00:03:08,976 - [Tony] Could it be a UFO? 72 00:03:09,064 --> 00:03:11,694 According to science writer Amy Teitel, in this town, 73 00:03:11,775 --> 00:03:13,325 it’s a definite possibility. 74 00:03:13,402 --> 00:03:16,202 - This isn’t the first time a local in Laguna Niguel 75 00:03:16,279 --> 00:03:18,569 has seen something strange in the sky. 76 00:03:18,657 --> 00:03:20,527 Most of the sightings in Laguna Niguel 77 00:03:20,617 --> 00:03:22,537 actually happened a decade ago, 78 00:03:22,619 --> 00:03:24,869 with residents seeing bright orange lights, 79 00:03:24,955 --> 00:03:26,585 white lights chasing red lights, 80 00:03:26,707 --> 00:03:29,577 and even bright green fireballs. 81 00:03:29,668 --> 00:03:30,958 - [Tony] In fact, some believe 82 00:03:31,086 --> 00:03:32,456 the evidence points to an alien presence 83 00:03:32,587 --> 00:03:35,087 in southern California dating back centuries. 84 00:03:35,173 --> 00:03:37,263 - [Amy] Some caves feature petroglyphs 85 00:03:37,342 --> 00:03:40,892 that some say are evidence of ancient civilizations 86 00:03:40,971 --> 00:03:42,561 visited by aliens. 87 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:45,179 The drawings on these cave walls depict shapes 88 00:03:45,267 --> 00:03:48,557 and some figures that many believe hint at aliens. 89 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:52,860 - Google UFO and Laguna Niguel 90 00:03:52,941 --> 00:03:54,441 and you’ll see multiple sightings 91 00:03:54,568 --> 00:03:56,568 that have been reported in recent years, 92 00:03:56,653 --> 00:03:59,453 but why all the sudden activity? 93 00:03:59,573 --> 00:04:01,163 Well, many think Catalina Island, 94 00:04:01,283 --> 00:04:04,163 just across from Laguna Niguel, might be a factor. 95 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:07,246 In 1967, two 12 year old boys were allegedly 96 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:11,080 abducted by aliens from a boat docked near the island. 97 00:04:11,168 --> 00:04:13,038 And even our own expert, Matthew Szydagis, 98 00:04:13,128 --> 00:04:14,958 has been studying strange phenomena 99 00:04:15,046 --> 00:04:18,876 over Catalina Island with the research group UAPX. 100 00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:21,887 But what do our experts think Steven saw? 101 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:23,510 Let’s find out. 102 00:04:23,638 --> 00:04:25,928 (tense music) 103 00:04:26,975 --> 00:04:29,185 We begin with aviation expert Tim McMillan. 104 00:04:29,311 --> 00:04:31,651 Could this floating object just be a balloon? 105 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:35,730 - Shape wise, a balloon would be our best fit, 106 00:04:35,817 --> 00:04:37,817 however, we should see it floating away. 107 00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:40,994 So whatever we’re looking at is able to maintain 108 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:43,124 a stationary position far longer 109 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,700 than a balloon would be able to. 110 00:04:44,826 --> 00:04:45,826 - [Tony] On the other hand, 111 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:48,622 there’s no telltale signs of UFO like movement. 112 00:04:48,705 --> 00:04:51,825 - We don’t see any of the behaviors that seem impossible. 113 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:52,828 When we think of UFOs, 114 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:56,919 extreme acceleration, right angle turns. 115 00:04:57,005 --> 00:04:59,295 Nothing that we see this object exhibiting 116 00:04:59,382 --> 00:05:02,012 is something that couldn’t technically be done. 117 00:05:02,928 --> 00:05:04,638 - [Tony] Taking McMillan’s advice to consider 118 00:05:04,721 --> 00:05:06,391 some more down to Earth possibilities, 119 00:05:06,515 --> 00:05:08,475 we turn to science writer Mick West. 120 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:10,348 He says the fact that Steven was so thorough 121 00:05:10,435 --> 00:05:13,015 in filming this object rules out one possibility. 122 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:15,444 - [Mick] One of the gold standards of UFO videos 123 00:05:15,524 --> 00:05:17,784 is to get multiple shots of the same thing 124 00:05:17,859 --> 00:05:19,359 from different locations. 125 00:05:19,444 --> 00:05:22,364 - [Steven] Again, using branches as reference. 126 00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:24,277 - So, this is definitely not a camera artifact 127 00:05:24,366 --> 00:05:28,156 because it appears in the right position in multiple videos. 128 00:05:28,245 --> 00:05:31,005 It’s definitely something that’s out there in the scene. 129 00:05:31,081 --> 00:05:32,171 - [Tony] What about a drone? 130 00:05:32,249 --> 00:05:34,539 We’re not seeing the standard quadcopter rotors, 131 00:05:34,668 --> 00:05:38,048 but West says, don’t be fooled by the slim vertical shape. 132 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:42,719 - [West] The only thing that is left is a coaxial drone. 133 00:05:42,801 --> 00:05:45,511 Now, a coaxial drone is a drone 134 00:05:45,595 --> 00:05:48,555 where all the propellers are in line, 135 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:49,602 one above the other. 136 00:05:49,724 --> 00:05:52,774 Some of them look like vertical cylinders. 137 00:05:52,894 --> 00:05:54,524 - [Tony] Coaxial drones are designed 138 00:05:54,604 --> 00:05:56,364 with two centrally positioned rotors 139 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:57,859 which provide more lift, 140 00:05:57,941 --> 00:05:59,861 allowing them to carry heavy payloads 141 00:05:59,943 --> 00:06:02,533 and also fly within tight spaces. 142 00:06:02,612 --> 00:06:05,242 And this object appears to have the same shape and design 143 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:07,445 seen in a coaxial drone. 144 00:06:07,576 --> 00:06:08,526 McMillan likes that theory, 145 00:06:08,618 --> 00:06:10,538 though he adds that if it’s a coaxial drone 146 00:06:10,620 --> 00:06:13,370 it would be something unusual to see in the sky. 147 00:06:14,291 --> 00:06:16,211 - [Tim] They’re not extremely common, 148 00:06:16,293 --> 00:06:19,093 but one of the things that coaxial drones have been 149 00:06:19,212 --> 00:06:23,262 developed for is the idea of delivery of goods or products. 150 00:06:23,341 --> 00:06:24,881 - [Tony] However, drone delivery 151 00:06:24,968 --> 00:06:26,928 is only available in a few test markets 152 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:29,432 and this one doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. 153 00:06:29,514 --> 00:06:32,394 So why else would a coaxial drone be hanging in the sky 154 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:33,885 above Laguna Niguel? 155 00:06:33,977 --> 00:06:35,187 Mick West has an idea. 156 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:36,940 - Traditionally, area surveillance 157 00:06:37,022 --> 00:06:38,732 has been done with a helicopter, 158 00:06:38,815 --> 00:06:41,225 but now police departments around the country 159 00:06:41,318 --> 00:06:44,108 are increasingly using drones, 160 00:06:44,195 --> 00:06:46,235 so I think that’s the most likely explanation 161 00:06:46,323 --> 00:06:48,663 based on what we see in these videos. 162 00:06:50,118 --> 00:06:52,288 (tense music) 163 00:06:53,788 --> 00:06:54,618 - Our verdict? 164 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:57,578 We think this is likely a coaxial drone. 165 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:00,587 Not only do the police use them to surveil, 166 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:02,090 but fire departments often use them 167 00:07:02,172 --> 00:07:04,262 to aid in wildfire prevention. 168 00:07:04,341 --> 00:07:07,221 However, the purpose of this apparent coaxial drone 169 00:07:07,302 --> 00:07:09,852 remains a mystery because when we contacted 170 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:11,971 the town of Laguna Niguel, 171 00:07:12,057 --> 00:07:14,767 they assured us they don’t use any such drones. 172 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:17,599 We’re going to hopscotch now 173 00:07:17,687 --> 00:07:20,107 to the other side of the Pacific Rim. 174 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:22,280 Centuries ago, mysterious sea serpents 175 00:07:22,359 --> 00:07:24,029 and mermaids were believed to be hidden 176 00:07:24,152 --> 00:07:25,992 in the world’s vast oceans. 177 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:28,952 They’ve captured the human imagination for ages, 178 00:07:29,032 --> 00:07:31,162 but in Japan, scientists now think 179 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,954 one of the alleged creatures may have been caught 180 00:07:34,037 --> 00:07:36,497 and preserved for generations, 181 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:39,293 and they’re taking x-rays to prove it. 182 00:07:40,251 --> 00:07:42,341 February 2nd, 2022, 183 00:07:42,420 --> 00:07:45,880 scientists in Japan open a box said to contain 184 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:48,047 a mythical creature captured by a fisherman 185 00:07:48,176 --> 00:07:50,796 in the Pacific Ocean in the 1700s. 186 00:07:50,887 --> 00:07:51,847 According to legend, 187 00:07:51,972 --> 00:07:54,182 the mummified body in this box was passed down 188 00:07:54,265 --> 00:07:56,975 from generation to generation until now. 189 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,310 Inside the box is a bizarre mummy 190 00:08:00,397 --> 00:08:01,807 that measures 12 inches long 191 00:08:01,898 --> 00:08:03,858 and leaves scientists baffled. 192 00:08:03,942 --> 00:08:06,362 Using a CT scan, paleontologists are now looking 193 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:08,776 into the 300 year old mummy’s origins. 194 00:08:08,863 --> 00:08:11,783 Researchers are also using DNA samples to identify 195 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:14,616 which known species, if any, the creature is made of. 196 00:08:14,703 --> 00:08:17,003 Take another look at this oddity. 197 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,870 It has hollowed out eye sockets, 198 00:08:18,957 --> 00:08:20,707 pointy fang-like teeth, hands, 199 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:23,212 and a fish like tail complete with scales 200 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:24,554 and a small flipper. 201 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:26,209 What is this thing? 202 00:08:26,339 --> 00:08:28,339 Field researcher Ken Gerhard says Japan 203 00:08:28,425 --> 00:08:30,225 has a long tradition of Merfolk. 204 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:32,513 Even though their folklore might be a bit different 205 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:33,675 than what we’re used to. 206 00:08:33,763 --> 00:08:34,723 - In Japanese culture, 207 00:08:34,848 --> 00:08:38,598 we have some very distinct types of mermaids. 208 00:08:38,727 --> 00:08:41,437 One in particular is known as the ningyo. 209 00:08:41,563 --> 00:08:44,653 Unlike the beautiful, glamorous, Western mermaid, 210 00:08:44,733 --> 00:08:47,693 the ningyo is described as being hideous, 211 00:08:47,777 --> 00:08:50,947 and frankly the stuff of otherworldly nightmares. 212 00:08:51,072 --> 00:08:54,122 It is usually depicted as being fish-like, 213 00:08:54,242 --> 00:08:57,082 but with varying degrees of humanoid features. 214 00:08:57,162 --> 00:09:01,542 The ningyo is often described as having a monkey-like mouth 215 00:09:01,624 --> 00:09:05,714 full of razor sharp teeth like we’re seeing here. 216 00:09:05,795 --> 00:09:07,165 - [Tony] The ningyo first appeared 217 00:09:07,255 --> 00:09:09,545 in ancient Japanese text 2,600 years ago 218 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:11,552 and it’s said that if one were to eat a ningyo, 219 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:13,264 you’d add centuries to your life. 220 00:09:13,386 --> 00:09:15,046 - [Ken] There’s one account of a woman 221 00:09:15,138 --> 00:09:18,308 who once ate a ningyo and lived for 800 years. 222 00:09:18,433 --> 00:09:21,063 Still others conjecture that this creature 223 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:23,404 could in fact be another type of Japanese mermaid 224 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,110 known as the amabie. 225 00:09:25,231 --> 00:09:28,571 Now, the amabie is said to have long flowing hair 226 00:09:28,651 --> 00:09:30,491 and it’s covered in scales. 227 00:09:30,612 --> 00:09:33,532 It is said that the amabie first appeared in relation 228 00:09:33,615 --> 00:09:36,665 to a pandemic that happened centuries ago, 229 00:09:36,785 --> 00:09:39,915 and that this light or glow that was omitted 230 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:42,456 from the amabie was sort of taken to be a warning 231 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,582 that this pandemic was coming. 232 00:09:46,836 --> 00:09:48,456 - [Tony] In the early part of 2020, 233 00:09:48,546 --> 00:09:50,206 when the worldwide pandemic hit, 234 00:09:50,298 --> 00:09:53,128 people in Japan began to sketch visions of the amabie 235 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:55,049 and post them online, 236 00:09:55,136 --> 00:09:57,506 because looking at a picture of an amabie 237 00:09:57,639 --> 00:09:59,099 is said to ward off disease. 238 00:09:59,182 --> 00:10:00,272 In other cultures, 239 00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:03,350 mermaids are said to possess four main powers: 240 00:10:03,478 --> 00:10:07,478 immortality, telepathy, hypnosis, and clairvoyance. 241 00:10:07,565 --> 00:10:09,895 For more clairvoyance on this mystery, 242 00:10:09,984 --> 00:10:11,494 we turn to our experts. 243 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:13,649 (tense music) 244 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:17,328 First, professor of anatomy and anthropology 245 00:10:17,408 --> 00:10:19,948 Dr. Jeff Meldrum dives into the ningyo theory. 246 00:10:20,036 --> 00:10:25,626 - A ningyo is described as being the size of a seal 247 00:10:25,708 --> 00:10:29,338 and has a face like a monkey. 248 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,382 So in those respects, 249 00:10:31,506 --> 00:10:36,386 this relic would seem to align with this identification. 250 00:10:36,511 --> 00:10:39,061 On the other hand, if you consume its flesh, 251 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:42,980 you will be endowed with everlasting life. 252 00:10:43,059 --> 00:10:44,689 That then begs the question, 253 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:48,151 why someone would preserve the remains 254 00:10:48,231 --> 00:10:50,481 of such a creature as a relic, 255 00:10:50,567 --> 00:10:52,987 as opposed to serving it up for dinner 256 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:57,029 and reaping the benefits of that immortality. 257 00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:58,867 - [Tony] Of course, maybe the person who found it 258 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:00,700 didn’t want to live for 800 years, 259 00:11:00,785 --> 00:11:02,695 or was saving it for someone who did. 260 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:05,209 Remember, it was preserved in a box by priests 261 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:07,001 like a kind of heirloom. 262 00:11:07,083 --> 00:11:09,133 Next, marine biologist Shea Conger 263 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:11,670 considers whether this could be the amabie. 264 00:11:11,754 --> 00:11:13,554 - The amabie is said to have 265 00:11:13,631 --> 00:11:16,681 some sort of transformative powers, 266 00:11:16,759 --> 00:11:21,559 and one of these is that it’s able to form legs 267 00:11:21,681 --> 00:11:22,561 to walk on the shore, 268 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:25,692 and it’s said to have three appendages. 269 00:11:25,768 --> 00:11:28,518 This creature doesn’t seem to have anything like that. 270 00:11:28,605 --> 00:11:32,865 It actually seems to just have a tail or a fin. 271 00:11:32,942 --> 00:11:34,862 - [Tony] Conger also points out that a mermaid 272 00:11:34,944 --> 00:11:35,904 with this body type 273 00:11:35,987 --> 00:11:38,237 would be unlikely to survive in the ocean. 274 00:11:38,323 --> 00:11:39,703 - Something like this would have 275 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:42,202 a really difficult time thermal regulating. 276 00:11:42,285 --> 00:11:45,255 The fact that a mermaid has long limbs and arms 277 00:11:45,371 --> 00:11:48,711 and usually a head situated on its neck 278 00:11:48,791 --> 00:11:51,251 wouldn’t be very advantageous 279 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:54,756 and that’s because living in an aquatic environment 280 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:57,549 sucks a lot of body heat away from you. 281 00:11:57,634 --> 00:12:01,764 Marine animals are actually fusiform in body shape, 282 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:04,428 meaning that they are oval shaped. 283 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:06,387 They don’t have a defined neck. 284 00:12:06,476 --> 00:12:10,266 Seals and sea lions and whales have a lot of blubber 285 00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:13,575 around their shoulders and neck 286 00:12:13,650 --> 00:12:15,280 because it keeps their head 287 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,900 and their central nervous system warm. 288 00:12:17,987 --> 00:12:21,067 So a creature that had a human head like this 289 00:12:21,157 --> 00:12:23,237 actually would be very cold. 290 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:26,286 - [Tony] So could this all be a hoax worthy of PT Barnum? 291 00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:29,332 - [Shea] Some objects, like for example, the Fiji mermaid, 292 00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:33,667 were determined to be a salmon taxidermied 293 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:35,255 with some kind of a primate 294 00:12:35,338 --> 00:12:37,758 and in some cases they were orangutans. 295 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,430 - [Tony] No evidence of sutures has been found, 296 00:12:40,510 --> 00:12:42,260 though a hidden stitch is commonly used 297 00:12:42,345 --> 00:12:44,265 in taxidermy for facial repair 298 00:12:44,347 --> 00:12:45,887 and in very short-haired areas 299 00:12:45,974 --> 00:12:49,484 like the one we see here between the belly and the fin. 300 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,100 - The fact that we don’t necessarily know 301 00:12:52,188 --> 00:12:55,228 if this is a real animal or if it ever lived, 302 00:12:55,316 --> 00:12:57,646 doesn’t diminish the cultural importance 303 00:12:57,735 --> 00:12:58,815 of what we’re looking at, 304 00:12:58,945 --> 00:13:02,575 because they directly reflect some really important 305 00:13:02,657 --> 00:13:07,407 nature-based religious aspects of Japanese culture. 306 00:13:07,495 --> 00:13:09,655 (tense music) 307 00:13:11,332 --> 00:13:14,172 - Our verdict? Unexplained object. 308 00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:17,002 The paleontologists will soon release their results 309 00:13:17,088 --> 00:13:19,838 and while Conger believes this is a hoax, 310 00:13:19,924 --> 00:13:22,474 until those DNA tests come back, 311 00:13:22,552 --> 00:13:24,012 we’re going to say we just don’t know. 312 00:13:28,933 --> 00:13:30,023 - [Tony] Many people believe there was 313 00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:33,153 a clear line linking UFOs and nuclear technology. 314 00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:36,979 In 2021, declassified US government documents 315 00:13:37,066 --> 00:13:38,816 and witness testimony from former 316 00:13:38,901 --> 00:13:41,451 and retired US Air Force personnel 317 00:13:41,529 --> 00:13:44,159 were presented at the National Press Club 318 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,120 as evidence of ongoing incursions 319 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,200 by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear missile sites 320 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:52,370 over several decades. 321 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:55,998 Could this next video be proof that we have a problem? 322 00:13:57,795 --> 00:14:01,335 March 2019, it’s evening in Two Creeks, Wisconsin. 323 00:14:01,424 --> 00:14:03,134 Marine Corp veteran Miles Panoche 324 00:14:03,217 --> 00:14:04,837 sees a bright light outside his window, 325 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:06,387 but he doesn’t have a camera 326 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:09,351 so he calls a neighbor who records this. 327 00:14:10,475 --> 00:14:13,315 A large glowing orange orb appears in the darkness, 328 00:14:13,394 --> 00:14:14,734 and take a closer look. 329 00:14:15,646 --> 00:14:17,856 Three smaller, dimmer lights are near it. 330 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:20,030 Miles says he is convinced about what he saw. 331 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:26,915 - [Tony] But writer MJ Banias explains 332 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:28,121 that what really got everyone’s attention 333 00:14:28,242 --> 00:14:31,912 isn’t just what these lights are, but where they are. 334 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:33,156 - According to the witness, 335 00:14:33,247 --> 00:14:36,877 this video was shot over Point Beach nuclear power plant. 336 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:40,249 - [Tony] Reports of UFOs at nuclear sites go back decades. 337 00:14:41,547 --> 00:14:44,757 - [MJ] There are ideas out there that these UFOs require 338 00:14:44,842 --> 00:14:48,642 our nuclear assets for the purpose of refueling. 339 00:14:48,763 --> 00:14:51,933 The other theory is that whatever is piloting the UFOs 340 00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:54,556 is monitoring our nuclear development, 341 00:14:54,644 --> 00:14:57,064 as if we are sort of animals in a zoo 342 00:14:57,146 --> 00:14:58,936 and the UFOs are keeping track 343 00:14:59,023 --> 00:15:01,533 of the technology level we are at. 344 00:15:01,609 --> 00:15:03,279 - [Tony] Galactic Zoo Theory would explain 345 00:15:03,403 --> 00:15:06,613 why UFOs might observe without fully revealing themselves, 346 00:15:06,697 --> 00:15:09,447 they don’t want to disturb their pet’s habitat. 347 00:15:09,534 --> 00:15:11,084 And it would explain their fascination 348 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,240 with nuclear facilities. 349 00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:15,408 They’re interested in how we use these new toys. 350 00:15:15,498 --> 00:15:18,078 In fact, Banias says the most infamous incident 351 00:15:18,167 --> 00:15:21,377 occurred in 1967 at Malmstrom Air Force base in Montana, 352 00:15:21,462 --> 00:15:23,762 a launch site for nuclear missiles. 353 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,090 - In the Malmstrom case, 354 00:15:25,174 --> 00:15:28,764 we have guards outside the facility. 355 00:15:28,845 --> 00:15:31,935 Suddenly this red light appears over the base, 356 00:15:32,014 --> 00:15:34,734 and one by one, the nuclear missiles 357 00:15:34,809 --> 00:15:35,769 start getting turned off. 358 00:15:35,852 --> 00:15:38,602 So the launch capability was removed 359 00:15:38,688 --> 00:15:40,978 and the entire system died. 360 00:15:41,065 --> 00:15:43,565 - [Tony] In fact, despite being nearly 50 years old, 361 00:15:43,651 --> 00:15:45,571 the Malmstrom incident became a hot topic 362 00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:48,913 during the May 2022 congressional hearings on UFOs. 363 00:15:48,990 --> 00:15:50,780 - A glowing red orb was observed overhead. 364 00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:52,077 I’m not commenting on the accuracy of this. 365 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,080 I’m simply asking you whether you’re aware of it, 366 00:15:55,163 --> 00:15:57,833 and whether you have any comment on the accuracy of that report. 367 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:58,867 - I have heard stories. 368 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,000 I have not seen the official data on that. 369 00:16:02,587 --> 00:16:06,127 - It’s that infamous 1967 Malmstrom incident 370 00:16:06,215 --> 00:16:09,125 that’s got so many people worried about UFOs and nukes, 371 00:16:09,218 --> 00:16:11,138 and now we have an orangeish light 372 00:16:11,220 --> 00:16:13,680 over the point beach nuclear facility. 373 00:16:13,764 --> 00:16:17,354 But what is it? Let’s see if our experts can decide. 374 00:16:17,435 --> 00:16:19,735 (tense music) 375 00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:22,895 Assuming the video is legitimate, 376 00:16:23,024 --> 00:16:25,484 could we be looking at some sort of aircraft? 377 00:16:25,568 --> 00:16:27,818 - Nuclear plants, nuclear facilities, 378 00:16:27,904 --> 00:16:29,244 they are protected airspace. 379 00:16:29,363 --> 00:16:31,533 These are for very obvious reasons, 380 00:16:31,616 --> 00:16:34,326 restricted areas where people aren’t supposed to fly. 381 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:37,500 You wouldn’t normally see a commercial airline 382 00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:39,370 flying over a nuclear facility 383 00:16:39,499 --> 00:16:41,499 as part of its conventional flight path. 384 00:16:41,584 --> 00:16:45,214 Drone and helicopter falls into that same category. 385 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:46,668 - [Tony] Okay, so if we’re not looking 386 00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:47,876 at a conventional aircraft, 387 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:50,335 could this be a genuine UFO? 388 00:16:50,426 --> 00:16:51,546 During the Malmstrom incident, 389 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:54,347 airmen did report light streaking directly above them, 390 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:57,560 which then stopped and changed directions at high speed. 391 00:16:57,683 --> 00:16:59,103 But McMillan sees a difference. 392 00:16:59,227 --> 00:17:02,397 - It certainly doesn’t fit in the category 393 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,030 of the exotic kind of UFO events 394 00:17:06,108 --> 00:17:08,238 that we’ve heard of or seen before. 395 00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:10,151 We’re also not seeing any type 396 00:17:10,238 --> 00:17:13,868 of extreme flight characteristics. 397 00:17:13,950 --> 00:17:15,120 You know, sudden acceleration, 398 00:17:15,243 --> 00:17:18,043 something that really makes me step back and go, "Whoa, 399 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,080 now this is really strange." 400 00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:21,866 - [Tony] So what could it be? 401 00:17:21,958 --> 00:17:24,748 Rich Hoffman of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies 402 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:26,797 believes he sees a smoking gun. 403 00:17:26,921 --> 00:17:29,051 - I saw a brief flash of what looked like 404 00:17:29,131 --> 00:17:30,471 a structure that was in front of 405 00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:33,341 or right below that orange light. 406 00:17:33,427 --> 00:17:35,257 There’s like an illumination of some sort 407 00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:36,598 of a building there. 408 00:17:36,681 --> 00:17:39,221 - [Tony] Hoffman believes that building changes everything. 409 00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:42,728 - It goes much higher than the actual lights 410 00:17:42,812 --> 00:17:44,442 that are out in the distance. 411 00:17:44,522 --> 00:17:46,572 In terms of its apparent height, 412 00:17:46,649 --> 00:17:48,279 to me, is very indicative of the fact 413 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,109 that the lights are relatively low in relationship 414 00:17:51,195 --> 00:17:53,525 to the building that’s off to the left. 415 00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:55,074 - [Tony] Hoffman is convinced these lights 416 00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:57,617 are not in the sky but instead on the ground. 417 00:17:57,702 --> 00:18:00,332 That fact would also explain their color. 418 00:18:00,454 --> 00:18:01,964 High pressure sodium vapor lights 419 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:03,959 are widely used in industrial buildings 420 00:18:04,041 --> 00:18:04,791 and street lights, 421 00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:07,335 and often emit an orange hue. 422 00:18:07,461 --> 00:18:10,211 - It’s very clear that the image is looking almost 423 00:18:10,298 --> 00:18:14,838 straight ahead at lights that are off in the distance. 424 00:18:14,969 --> 00:18:16,599 It’s not looking up at all. 425 00:18:16,679 --> 00:18:18,259 It’s looking straight ahead. 426 00:18:18,347 --> 00:18:19,307 They’re pretty much consistent 427 00:18:19,390 --> 00:18:21,600 with anything from the distant street light 428 00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:23,314 or building light. 429 00:18:23,394 --> 00:18:25,604 (tense music( 430 00:18:27,064 --> 00:18:28,154 - [Tony] Our verdict? 431 00:18:28,274 --> 00:18:31,284 We’re going with likely street or building lights 432 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,280 and we’ll add though, despite our conclusions, 433 00:18:34,363 --> 00:18:36,663 Miles insists he witnessed a real UFO 434 00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:38,331 that night up in the sky. 435 00:18:38,409 --> 00:18:40,329 As for Galactic Zoo Theory, 436 00:18:40,411 --> 00:18:42,701 it may sound humiliating at first, 437 00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:44,160 but consider this, 438 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:45,920 we take better care of our pets 439 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,460 than we do many of our own species. 440 00:18:48,544 --> 00:18:50,754 Maybe our benevolent alien masters 441 00:18:50,838 --> 00:18:52,048 could keep us from destroying ourselves. 442 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:59,014 - Earth’s waters are filled with awe inspiring wildlife, 443 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:00,218 but when an aquatic creature 444 00:19:00,348 --> 00:19:03,728 can keep pace with a motorboat and glow in the dark, 445 00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:07,061 we are inspired to investigate. 446 00:19:09,023 --> 00:19:10,443 February 2022. 447 00:19:10,524 --> 00:19:12,194 It is a warm winter night off the coast 448 00:19:12,318 --> 00:19:14,858 of Rio Grande Do Sul, Brazil, 449 00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:17,867 and a fisherman is cruising home after a long day on the water, 450 00:19:17,948 --> 00:19:21,198 but he soon notices he has some unexpected company. 451 00:19:21,285 --> 00:19:22,695 The boat speeds along, 452 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:24,867 it’s motor creating a wake behind, 453 00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,417 when out from the water emerges 454 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:28,380 a glowing yellow eyed creature. 455 00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:32,503 The creature appears to be following the boat. 456 00:19:32,588 --> 00:19:35,378 Again and again, it jumps from the waters 457 00:19:35,466 --> 00:19:36,716 revealing its piercing eyes 458 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:38,761 before diving into the craft’s wake. 459 00:19:40,054 --> 00:19:41,184 The pursuit is ominous. 460 00:19:41,263 --> 00:19:43,893 The fisherman even captures the video with the phrase 461 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:47,056 that translates as, "It wanted to attack me". 462 00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:48,064 Take another look. 463 00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:50,805 This thing’s glowing eyes are striking. 464 00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:53,728 - [Cliff] To see a five, six, seven, eight foot long 465 00:19:53,818 --> 00:19:57,398 thing coming outta the water with glowing eyes. 466 00:19:57,488 --> 00:19:59,738 I wouldn’t want to be on that boat. 467 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:01,235 - [Tony] Field researcher Cliff Barackman 468 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:03,235 says the creature could be a particular figure 469 00:20:03,369 --> 00:20:06,579 from Brazilian folklore, the Minhocão. 470 00:20:06,664 --> 00:20:08,424 - The Minhocão was reported to resemble 471 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:11,591 a giant worm covered in black scales, 472 00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:14,799 and two tentacles attached to its head. 473 00:20:14,922 --> 00:20:18,262 It’s said to drag cows and horses into the water 474 00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:21,514 and drown them before it devours them. 475 00:20:21,595 --> 00:20:23,925 - [Tony] Barackman then wonders if it could be a documented 476 00:20:24,014 --> 00:20:26,104 yet equally peculiar species. 477 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:29,975 - Another possible candidate is the Boto Cor-De-Rosa, 478 00:20:30,104 --> 00:20:32,524 or the Amazonian River dolphin. 479 00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:34,436 - [Tony] Since these mammals are unique to this region, 480 00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:36,567 they’ve become fodder for local myth. 481 00:20:36,652 --> 00:20:38,402 - [Barackman] One of the stories is that 482 00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:40,697 they can change into a man 483 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:45,451 and they find the unattended females, they seduce them. 484 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:49,118 And so when kids don’t know their father, 485 00:20:49,206 --> 00:20:52,416 they say they’re children of a river dolphin. 486 00:20:52,501 --> 00:20:54,501 - [Tony] But if we set aside the supernatural angle, 487 00:20:54,628 --> 00:20:57,298 is it possible this is one of these rare dolphins? 488 00:20:57,381 --> 00:21:00,341 And if so, why is it seemingly hungry for humans? 489 00:21:02,887 --> 00:21:04,637 Brazil is one of the most bio-diverse 490 00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,974 countries in the world, estimated to have 491 00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:09,807 about 4 million plant and animal species, 492 00:21:09,894 --> 00:21:12,814 about 20 times more than the United States. 493 00:21:12,897 --> 00:21:15,067 So it’s easy to see why there are so many 494 00:21:15,149 --> 00:21:17,689 possible explanations for this creature. 495 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:20,318 Let’s see if our experts have any ideas. 496 00:21:20,446 --> 00:21:22,566 (tense music) 497 00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:27,368 Biologist Floyd Hayes torpedoes the Minhocão theory 498 00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:28,915 because of speed. 499 00:21:28,996 --> 00:21:31,996 - The Minhocão allegedly has a worm-like 500 00:21:32,082 --> 00:21:33,832 or eel-like body, 501 00:21:33,918 --> 00:21:37,498 but this cannot be a Minhocão because eel-like creatures 502 00:21:37,588 --> 00:21:39,208 don’t swim very fast. 503 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:40,220 - [Tony] Hayes estimates this creature 504 00:21:40,341 --> 00:21:42,511 could be swimming at 15 miles per hour, 505 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:46,515 but eels max out at a measly 2.4 miles an hour. 506 00:21:46,639 --> 00:21:48,679 Electric eels can jump out of the water, 507 00:21:48,766 --> 00:21:50,676 but not in this undulating way. 508 00:21:50,768 --> 00:21:52,228 They only emerge from the waters 509 00:21:52,353 --> 00:21:54,193 to defend themselves against predators. 510 00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:57,233 They do not use this behavior as a means of hunting prey. 511 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,190 Marine biologist Dr. Shea Conger 512 00:22:00,277 --> 00:22:01,987 considers the river dolphin theory. 513 00:22:02,071 --> 00:22:05,991 - Amazonian river dolphins are actually very light in color. 514 00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:09,205 They’ve been described as bubble gum pink. 515 00:22:09,286 --> 00:22:11,366 This animal is very dark 516 00:22:11,455 --> 00:22:14,325 and also doesn’t have a beak like a dolphin, 517 00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:17,536 and I don’t see anything like a dorsal fin. 518 00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:20,918 So this is not some kind of a dolphin. 519 00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:23,468 - [Tony] Conger hits on another more feasible possibility. 520 00:22:23,551 --> 00:22:27,051 - [Conger] One possible species is a leopard seal. 521 00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:29,639 Leopard seals are known to be very aggressive. 522 00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:31,563 They’re top tier predators 523 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:34,354 that can swim at least 20 miles per hour, 524 00:22:34,436 --> 00:22:37,976 so it would easily be able to keep up with this little boat. 525 00:22:38,941 --> 00:22:40,731 - [Tony] You think of seals as lovable, 526 00:22:40,818 --> 00:22:42,898 but leopard seals are apex predators. 527 00:22:42,987 --> 00:22:45,027 They eat penguins, even sharks. 528 00:22:45,114 --> 00:22:47,414 Keep in mind, they weigh more than many bears 529 00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:50,413 and have teeth designed to shred blubber and crush bones. 530 00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:54,916 In 2003, one even tragically killed a marine biologist. 531 00:22:56,041 --> 00:22:58,671 So is this a leopard seal on the hunt for humans? 532 00:22:58,752 --> 00:23:00,922 And what about those glowing eyes? 533 00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:04,756 - [Conger] Leopard seals have the tapetum lucidum like a deer, 534 00:23:04,842 --> 00:23:07,262 the reflective membrane in their eye. 535 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:09,554 It maximizes the visible light 536 00:23:09,638 --> 00:23:12,098 because it reflects it into the front of the eyes. 537 00:23:12,182 --> 00:23:15,982 So it’s almost like a self-designed flashlight. 538 00:23:16,103 --> 00:23:19,273 Because seals spend time at depth in the ocean hunting prey, 539 00:23:19,356 --> 00:23:22,226 the better you can see in that type of environment, 540 00:23:22,318 --> 00:23:24,648 the more you can survive. 541 00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:28,948 So because of all of that, I think this is a leopard seal. 542 00:23:29,074 --> 00:23:30,534 - [Tony] Dr. Conger had us convinced, 543 00:23:30,618 --> 00:23:32,828 but we couldn’t resist sending the footage 544 00:23:32,953 --> 00:23:35,293 to our video forensic analyst, Michael Primeau, 545 00:23:35,372 --> 00:23:36,672 and he had a surprise. 546 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,420 - It’s clear that this area of the image 547 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,960 was different than the rest of the image, 548 00:23:41,045 --> 00:23:43,635 which is an indication that it was overlaid. 549 00:23:43,714 --> 00:23:47,134 There’s also a difference in this shadow area. 550 00:23:47,217 --> 00:23:49,137 The eyes are essentially moving away 551 00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:51,851 from that region at some points, 552 00:23:51,972 --> 00:23:55,142 like here is where we see the difference in the eyes. 553 00:23:55,225 --> 00:23:57,135 And if it was actually moving too fast 554 00:23:57,227 --> 00:23:58,477 for the camera to be able to interpret, 555 00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:00,154 I would expect to see some motion blur. 556 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:02,862 But this is a doubling effect where those frames 557 00:24:02,983 --> 00:24:05,493 are essentially being produced twice, 558 00:24:05,569 --> 00:24:07,449 which is not an accurate depiction 559 00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:09,279 from that original camera. 560 00:24:09,365 --> 00:24:12,165 If this was genuine and was recorded in real life, 561 00:24:12,284 --> 00:24:15,834 the macro block motion vectors would indicate that, 562 00:24:15,913 --> 00:24:18,543 and thus the verdict is that this is fake. 563 00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:22,035 (tense music) 564 00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:26,507 - Our verdict? This was a hoax. 565 00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:28,880 It’s possible the video overlaid footage 566 00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:30,219 of a real leopard seal. 567 00:24:30,344 --> 00:24:33,854 So Dr. Conger’s analysis might be spot on, 568 00:24:33,931 --> 00:24:37,101 but there’s definitely some video shenanigans involved here. 569 00:24:41,271 --> 00:24:41,901 - For centuries, there have been stories 570 00:24:42,022 --> 00:24:45,282 ities 571 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,609 Now as you’re about to see, 572 00:24:46,694 --> 00:24:51,284 a video of one mysterious man raises a startling question. 573 00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:54,035 Could these legends actually be true? 574 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:55,659 Check it out. 575 00:24:55,744 --> 00:24:58,544 2018. Rondonia, Brazil. 576 00:24:58,664 --> 00:24:59,874 Deep in the Amazon jungle, 577 00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:01,499 researchers from FUNAI, 578 00:25:01,583 --> 00:25:03,503 the Brazilian National Indian Foundation, 579 00:25:03,585 --> 00:25:06,375 are scouting when they come across this stunning scene. 580 00:25:07,923 --> 00:25:10,763 A lone indigenous man naked except for loin cloth, 581 00:25:10,884 --> 00:25:13,094 swings an ax and chops into a tree. 582 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:16,680 Who is this man and why is he out in the middle of nowhere? 583 00:25:16,765 --> 00:25:19,515 - Researchers have been tracking this man 584 00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:20,561 for quite some time 585 00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:23,404 and discovered several huts that he’s built 586 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,810 and in the middle of his huts, 587 00:25:24,898 --> 00:25:27,648 he digs a very deep six foot hole. 588 00:25:27,735 --> 00:25:28,865 - [Tony] The man lives as a hermit, 589 00:25:28,944 --> 00:25:32,324 and those holes are as much of a mystery as he is. 590 00:25:32,406 --> 00:25:34,366 But when researchers have tried to contact the man, 591 00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:36,870 he’s either fled or shot arrows at them. 592 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:39,752 - He clearly seems to be thriving well 593 00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:41,750 in the conditions that he’s living in 594 00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:42,834 and is definitely nervous 595 00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:45,666 when it comes to outsiders entering his area. 596 00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:46,753 - [Tony] Researchers believe the man 597 00:25:46,837 --> 00:25:48,917 has been the sole inhabitant of this territory 598 00:25:49,006 --> 00:25:50,796 for at least 26 years, 599 00:25:50,924 --> 00:25:53,344 but they still have no idea what language he speaks, 600 00:25:53,427 --> 00:25:56,007 his name, or what tribe he came from. 601 00:25:56,096 --> 00:25:57,886 - [MJ] We know that there are a lot 602 00:25:57,973 --> 00:26:01,943 of uncontacted tribes that still exist in the world today 603 00:26:02,019 --> 00:26:04,809 where no one is allowed to go near it. 604 00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:05,938 The reason being, 605 00:26:06,023 --> 00:26:08,823 every time any research team’s gotten too close, 606 00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:10,692 the people have acted quite aggressively 607 00:26:10,778 --> 00:26:12,448 in trying to scare them away. 608 00:26:12,529 --> 00:26:14,819 - [Tony] So an uncontacted tribe, yes, 609 00:26:14,948 --> 00:26:17,698 but one solitary man? That’s unheard of. 610 00:26:17,785 --> 00:26:19,705 And without any information on his origins, 611 00:26:19,787 --> 00:26:22,117 an intriguing possibility arises. 612 00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:24,207 Could he be the last surviving member 613 00:26:24,291 --> 00:26:26,211 of a lost civilization long rumored 614 00:26:26,293 --> 00:26:28,093 to lie hidden in the Amazon? 615 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:31,050 - So the first expedition down into the Amazon area 616 00:26:31,131 --> 00:26:33,551 happened around the 1500s. 617 00:26:33,634 --> 00:26:34,804 - [Tony] In the 16th century, 618 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,677 Spanish conquistadors ventured into the Amazon rainforest 619 00:26:37,805 --> 00:26:40,065 seeking a fabled lost city of gold. 620 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:42,060 Some referred to it as El Dorado, 621 00:26:42,142 --> 00:26:43,812 other times the city of Z. 622 00:26:43,894 --> 00:26:44,734 By the 19th century, 623 00:26:44,812 --> 00:26:46,612 most people dismissed the existence 624 00:26:46,688 --> 00:26:48,398 of a lost city as a myth, 625 00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:50,362 deeming the Amazon too inhospitable 626 00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:52,904 to support large scale populations. 627 00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:55,316 But that didn’t stop this man from looking. 628 00:26:55,405 --> 00:26:57,485 British Explorer, Percy Fawcett would conduct 629 00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,526 eight expeditions to find Z. 630 00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:02,330 He departed for his final voyage in 1925, 631 00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:05,332 and he and his two companions were never heard from again. 632 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,340 The questions, did Fawcett actually find the city of Z? 633 00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:13,343 Did its citizens kill him? 634 00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:15,433 And is our solitary man in the hole 635 00:27:15,509 --> 00:27:18,009 their sole, surviving descendant? 636 00:27:18,095 --> 00:27:19,475 There’s a lot to unpack here. 637 00:27:19,555 --> 00:27:20,685 To solve the riddle, 638 00:27:20,806 --> 00:27:23,386 we’re going to need our experts to do some digging. 639 00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:25,807 (tense music) 640 00:27:26,854 --> 00:27:29,614 Archeologist Ed Barnhart says that the lone man’s hut 641 00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:31,650 and garden are more modest than the cities 642 00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,283 of conquistador’s legend, 643 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:34,820 but he fits the physical description 644 00:27:34,903 --> 00:27:36,323 of ancient indigenous tribes, 645 00:27:36,405 --> 00:27:38,955 and he grows the same yucca and paw paw plants 646 00:27:39,032 --> 00:27:43,042 and hunts monkeys, wild pigs and birds in the same fashion. 647 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:44,700 - He’s barely clothed. 648 00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:47,288 Like most of the cultures in the Amazon, 649 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,174 he’s got the right haircut. 650 00:27:49,251 --> 00:27:52,421 This man obviously grew up in the Amazon 651 00:27:52,546 --> 00:27:54,376 and he knows how to survive there. 652 00:27:54,464 --> 00:27:55,674 - [Tony] Could he have some connection 653 00:27:55,757 --> 00:27:57,837 to the people mentioned in the legends? 654 00:27:59,052 --> 00:28:02,142 Thanks to a new cutting edge technology known as lidar, 655 00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:05,062 in 2022, archeologists discovered the remains 656 00:28:05,184 --> 00:28:06,644 of an urban settlement that spans 657 00:28:06,727 --> 00:28:10,057 more than 1,737 square miles 658 00:28:10,189 --> 00:28:12,229 in Bolivia’s Llanos De Moxos region, 659 00:28:12,316 --> 00:28:15,106 which isn’t that far from the Brazilian border. 660 00:28:15,235 --> 00:28:17,485 The city belonged to the Casarabe culture, 661 00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:20,411 and it is just the latest proof that large urban societies 662 00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:22,030 did exist in the Amazon. 663 00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:23,787 The Casarabe abandoned this city 664 00:28:23,911 --> 00:28:26,661 around 1400 AD for unknown reasons, 665 00:28:26,747 --> 00:28:29,917 and the jungle soon swallowed what was left behind. 666 00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:33,172 So clearly lost cities were real and they really were lost. 667 00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:34,503 For all we know, Z did exist 668 00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:37,668 and its remains are waiting to be discovered by lidar. 669 00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:40,838 And this man is the sole survivor of that civilization. 670 00:28:40,928 --> 00:28:44,308 - So we know that once societies collapse, 671 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,021 the people that were living there 672 00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:48,179 just disperse back into the environment 673 00:28:48,268 --> 00:28:49,638 that they’ve always lived in. 674 00:28:49,770 --> 00:28:51,690 So it is possible if the man in the hole 675 00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:54,192 is directly related to the people that lived 676 00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:55,484 in these great cities. 677 00:28:55,609 --> 00:28:56,569 - [Tony] Why is he alone? 678 00:28:56,652 --> 00:28:59,242 Barnhart says the likely solution to that mystery 679 00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:02,371 is a tragedy that’s befallen many uncontacted tribes. 680 00:29:02,449 --> 00:29:03,619 - [Ed] Unfortunately, 681 00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:09,872 a lot of them fall prey to loggers or miners or hunters, 682 00:29:09,957 --> 00:29:12,537 and without anybody ever realizing it, 683 00:29:12,626 --> 00:29:15,416 folks from the Western world come in 684 00:29:15,504 --> 00:29:18,014 and they eradicate these tribes. 685 00:29:18,131 --> 00:29:20,931 - [Tony] That’s also the most likely reason for those holes. 686 00:29:21,009 --> 00:29:23,009 Brazilian officials think it’s likely 687 00:29:23,136 --> 00:29:25,096 our man’s tribe was wiped out by attacks 688 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:28,140 and poisonings instigated by encroaching ranchers. 689 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:30,887 The holes are defenses against further attacks. 690 00:29:30,978 --> 00:29:32,898 - [Barnhart] This poor individual is probably 691 00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:35,980 the last member of his tribe. 692 00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:37,816 No one knows how to talk to him, 693 00:29:37,901 --> 00:29:40,111 and has no reason to think that the people 694 00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:43,065 that are contacting him aren’t trying to kill him. 695 00:29:43,156 --> 00:29:45,156 - [Tony] On August 23rd, 2022, 696 00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:48,622 his dead body was found in a hammock outside his straw hut. 697 00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:51,124 He is believed to have passed from natural causes. 698 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:53,666 The good news is that he didn’t die violently 699 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,342 as he logically feared. 700 00:29:55,419 --> 00:29:57,459 The bad news is that his language, culture, 701 00:29:57,546 --> 00:29:59,416 and religion all died with him. 702 00:29:59,506 --> 00:30:02,086 - He’s a tragic example of exactly 703 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:04,835 what’s going to happen to all these wonderful cultures 704 00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:07,810 unless we spend more time protecting them. 705 00:30:10,475 --> 00:30:12,685 (tense music) 706 00:30:14,229 --> 00:30:17,109 - So, sadly, much remains unanswered. 707 00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:19,030 Our verdict is that the mystery man 708 00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:21,401 was likely the last of his tribe, 709 00:30:21,528 --> 00:30:23,608 but we don’t know whether or not his people 710 00:30:23,697 --> 00:30:27,277 were connected to Z, or any other lost city. 711 00:30:27,367 --> 00:30:29,287 We do know that against all odds, 712 00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:31,449 he thrived in the jungle alone 713 00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:34,828 and hunted for over a quarter of a century. 714 00:30:34,916 --> 00:30:36,876 He truly was a living legend. 715 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,840 May he rest in peace. 716 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,760 - Most people see yard work as nothing but a tedious chore. 717 00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:48,265 But what if doing these chores uncovered mysterious, 718 00:30:48,388 --> 00:30:51,558 unexplained treasures from the ancient past? 719 00:30:51,641 --> 00:30:53,181 That’s just what happened one summer day 720 00:30:53,268 --> 00:30:54,888 to a lucky man in England. 721 00:30:56,271 --> 00:31:01,031 It’s August 1987 in the town of Romford in East London, UK. 722 00:31:02,486 --> 00:31:04,696 A local resident is filling a hole in his yard 723 00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:08,200 when suddenly his shovel hits something hard and metallic. 724 00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:10,493 In this photo, you can see the strange 12 sided 725 00:31:10,577 --> 00:31:13,537 hollow object that’s about the size of a tennis ball. 726 00:31:13,622 --> 00:31:15,372 Each side has a pentagonal face 727 00:31:15,457 --> 00:31:17,207 with a circular hole in the middle, 728 00:31:17,292 --> 00:31:20,042 and in each corner is a small, rounded knob. 729 00:31:20,128 --> 00:31:22,008 Writer Eric Grundhauser says, 730 00:31:22,089 --> 00:31:23,459 other mysterious devices like this 731 00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:25,720 were first discovered in the early 1700s 732 00:31:25,801 --> 00:31:27,721 and they’ve been baffling people ever since. 733 00:31:27,803 --> 00:31:30,513 - What you’re looking at in this image 734 00:31:30,597 --> 00:31:34,097 is one of the most unexplained mysteries 735 00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:36,556 of the ancient world. 736 00:31:36,645 --> 00:31:39,655 Even though we found over a hundred of them across Europe, 737 00:31:39,773 --> 00:31:43,783 no one is still clear on what exactly they are. 738 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:45,450 - [Tony] They’re known as dodecahedrons 739 00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:47,449 because of their 12 sided shape, 740 00:31:47,531 --> 00:31:50,581 but no one knows exactly how or why they were made. 741 00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:52,909 Grundhauser says some suspect the ancients 742 00:31:52,994 --> 00:31:55,584 may have used them for communing with the spiritual world. 743 00:31:55,664 --> 00:31:57,964 - One of the theories surrounding these dodecahedrons 744 00:31:58,083 --> 00:32:00,253 is that they were used as divining tools 745 00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:01,875 by augers or seers, 746 00:32:01,962 --> 00:32:05,672 some kind of dye, or rolling of the bones. 747 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,089 - [Tony] So perhaps these devices 748 00:32:07,175 --> 00:32:08,465 were used to predict the future. 749 00:32:08,552 --> 00:32:10,262 They have 12 faces that could correspond 750 00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:12,255 with the 12 celestial signs of the Zodiac 751 00:32:12,347 --> 00:32:14,177 creating a sort of horoscope. 752 00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:16,267 Perhaps they were related to the first century 753 00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:19,191 mystery religion known as Mithraism. 754 00:32:19,312 --> 00:32:21,652 This was a secretive cult centered on the God Mithras 755 00:32:21,773 --> 00:32:24,283 that drew heavily upon astrological symbolism. 756 00:32:25,569 --> 00:32:28,449 A similar connection to the star constellations was proposed 757 00:32:28,530 --> 00:32:30,620 by one of the greatest philosophers of all time. 758 00:32:30,699 --> 00:32:34,199 - [Eric] Plato had this idea of these shapes 759 00:32:34,327 --> 00:32:37,327 that were the ideal shapes of the universe. 760 00:32:37,456 --> 00:32:40,746 The dodecahedron was meant to represent the heavens, 761 00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:43,964 that the dodecahedron was itself a mirror 762 00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:46,505 of the shape of the universe. 763 00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:49,431 - [Tony] And what makes these objects even more enigmatic 764 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:51,429 is that though they’ve been found throughout Europe, 765 00:32:51,511 --> 00:32:53,471 they’re all precisely forged out of metal 766 00:32:53,555 --> 00:32:54,855 with the exact same design, 767 00:32:54,931 --> 00:32:56,891 though in a variety of small sizes. 768 00:32:57,017 --> 00:32:59,977 There’s no mention of them in any written records. 769 00:33:00,061 --> 00:33:01,691 - We don’t know who created 770 00:33:01,813 --> 00:33:04,983 these dodecahedrons or how they were even created, 771 00:33:05,066 --> 00:33:06,776 but it doesn’t look like it would’ve been easy, 772 00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:08,530 given ancient technology. 773 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:12,370 - These mysterious contraptions 774 00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:15,031 have been uncovered in ancient military camps, 775 00:33:15,118 --> 00:33:17,658 temples, and even public baths. 776 00:33:17,746 --> 00:33:21,166 So in addition to a fortune telling tool or religious totem, 777 00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:23,879 some have speculated they could be weapons, 778 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,340 money, or even just a game. 779 00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:27,921 But after centuries of study, 780 00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:30,468 we’re still no closer to the truth. 781 00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:33,720 So let’s see if our experts can define what this is. 782 00:33:33,803 --> 00:33:36,103 (tense music) 783 00:33:37,807 --> 00:33:39,807 Anthropologist Kathy Strain explores 784 00:33:39,893 --> 00:33:41,693 whether the bronze object could have some 785 00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:43,230 religious or spiritual purpose, 786 00:33:43,313 --> 00:33:45,063 perhaps related to Mithraism, 787 00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:46,518 which was seen as an early rival 788 00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:48,688 to Christianity in the Roman Empire. 789 00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,857 - Mithraism was a star cult. 790 00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:54,026 When you think about a star that is multifaceted, 791 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:56,655 multi edged, maybe this is something 792 00:33:56,743 --> 00:33:58,753 that that could represent a star. 793 00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:01,660 It could be something that you kept 794 00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:05,538 in order to practice your religious action. 795 00:34:05,627 --> 00:34:07,747 - [Tony] But Strain reiterates that what complicates 796 00:34:07,837 --> 00:34:10,127 this theory is that these objects haven’t just been found 797 00:34:10,257 --> 00:34:12,087 in temples and other religious sites. 798 00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:15,545 - [Strain] Knowing that they have been found in bathhouses, 799 00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:18,597 they’ve been found in Roman camps. 800 00:34:18,682 --> 00:34:20,432 We can’t use that as evidence 801 00:34:20,517 --> 00:34:23,227 to say that this is a religious object. 802 00:34:23,311 --> 00:34:24,901 - [Tony] Archeologist Dr. Ed Barnhart 803 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:26,940 says these objects have sometimes been uncovered 804 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,265 among caches of coins. 805 00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:31,608 Then perhaps this dodecahedron could be some form of money? 806 00:34:31,695 --> 00:34:35,535 - It’s very large, impractical for a currency. 807 00:34:35,615 --> 00:34:39,945 There aren’t any identifiable and repeating symbols. 808 00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:43,616 If an organized civilization is going to make a currency, 809 00:34:43,707 --> 00:34:48,537 it’s got the bust of a Roman emperor or something on it. 810 00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:50,758 - [Tony] So it may not be a type of coin, 811 00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:53,169 but perhaps it still had a valuable purpose. 812 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:57,970 - I think that it’s a survey object. 813 00:34:58,054 --> 00:35:01,524 I think that the balls on every corner 814 00:35:01,641 --> 00:35:05,811 let it securely attach to basically a tripod. 815 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:09,317 The locations where we find these objects 816 00:35:09,399 --> 00:35:14,149 are fairly neatly where the Roman empire 817 00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:17,907 expanded itself by building Roman roads. 818 00:35:17,991 --> 00:35:20,661 If you look through the hole on one side, 819 00:35:20,785 --> 00:35:23,825 whatever the other side you’re looking through 820 00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:26,623 is a different diameter hole, 821 00:35:26,708 --> 00:35:29,918 which means they are very functional 822 00:35:30,003 --> 00:35:35,013 in terms of judging both distance and size of things 823 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:37,183 out in front of you. 824 00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:39,220 - [Tony] The dodecahedron has six angles of view. 825 00:35:39,346 --> 00:35:41,006 And so if you know the size of an object, 826 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:43,179 you can calculate how far away it is. 827 00:35:43,308 --> 00:35:45,308 By looking at the object through the device, 828 00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:46,853 at a point where the two opposite 829 00:35:46,936 --> 00:35:49,186 circular holes are superimposed. 830 00:35:49,272 --> 00:35:50,362 You can determine the distance 831 00:35:50,482 --> 00:35:53,362 by plugging factors like the diameter of each hole, 832 00:35:53,443 --> 00:35:55,193 the distance between the two holes, 833 00:35:55,278 --> 00:35:56,568 and the height of the object 834 00:35:56,696 --> 00:35:59,366 into a simple geometric equation. 835 00:35:59,449 --> 00:36:01,529 (tense music) 836 00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:04,121 Our verdict, 837 00:36:04,204 --> 00:36:05,964 we’re gonna go with Barnhart on this one 838 00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,749 and say this was likely a surveying tool. 839 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:10,875 The need to be secured on a tripod 840 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,550 would explain why the device has 841 00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:15,209 the seemingly extraneous knobs. 842 00:36:15,298 --> 00:36:16,218 But remember, 843 00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:18,799 there is nothing about these dodecahedra 844 00:36:18,885 --> 00:36:20,045 in the written records, 845 00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:23,716 and no molds for making them have ever been found. 846 00:36:23,807 --> 00:36:25,177 So we’ll likely never know for sure. 847 00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:30,397 - Flash floods can happen within minutes. 848 00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:33,612 They lead to about 100 deaths in the US each year, 849 00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:35,693 and anyone who gets caught in one 850 00:36:35,777 --> 00:36:38,777 should only hope that the situation resolves itself 851 00:36:38,905 --> 00:36:41,695 as miraculously as what you’re about to see. 852 00:36:42,742 --> 00:36:43,702 Pueblo, Colorado. 853 00:36:43,785 --> 00:36:46,205 Physician Dr. Rocky Khosla and his family 854 00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:49,537 are on their way to dinner when they hit a bad rainstorm. 855 00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:50,584 As they seek shelter, 856 00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:52,417 they notice another car is being submerged 857 00:36:52,502 --> 00:36:55,422 by the water rapidly rising on a low lying road. 858 00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:57,925 Watch what happens next. 859 00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:00,049 - [Rocky] And I look, this car took off 860 00:37:00,135 --> 00:37:03,555 and started floating away way faster than I expected. 861 00:37:03,638 --> 00:37:05,638 - [Tony] By chance, a news crew is passing by. 862 00:37:05,765 --> 00:37:06,595 They roll cameras. 863 00:37:06,683 --> 00:37:09,103 Dr. Khosla and others jump into action 864 00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:12,395 and try to free 35 year old Charlene Herrera 865 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,230 from the 10 foot deep torrent. 866 00:37:14,315 --> 00:37:16,775 - I just saw a piece of wood floating 867 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:20,400 and so I grabbed it and I just started swimming out. 868 00:37:20,488 --> 00:37:22,068 - [Tony] The car is nearly submerged, 869 00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:23,567 the situation looks hopeless. 870 00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:25,738 - And I was really hammering away 871 00:37:25,827 --> 00:37:28,117 with this piece of wood and making absolutely no progress. 872 00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:30,456 - [Tony] Then it happens. Watch. 873 00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:32,422 Another rescuer reaches into the water 874 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,960 and somehow he’s able to grab Charlene’s arm. 875 00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:37,255 - Next thing I know, 876 00:37:37,338 --> 00:37:39,798 this person is popping out of there like a champagne cork. 877 00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:42,929 - [Tony] Charlene is pulled to safety. 878 00:37:43,011 --> 00:37:44,931 It’s a feel good rescue story. 879 00:37:45,013 --> 00:37:46,813 But here’s the amazing thing. 880 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:47,970 When the car is later recovered, 881 00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:51,937 all of the doors and windows are closed and intact. 882 00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:54,360 - At this point, I’m still mystified by the whole thing. 883 00:37:54,481 --> 00:37:57,441 She’d obviously been through a near death experience, 884 00:37:57,525 --> 00:37:58,935 but she was alive. 885 00:37:59,027 --> 00:38:00,647 You know, it was just incredible. 886 00:38:02,822 --> 00:38:04,992 - We tried to contact the woman in the car, 887 00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:06,526 but we never reached her. 888 00:38:06,659 --> 00:38:08,829 So much remains unanswered. 889 00:38:08,912 --> 00:38:11,662 How were the rescuers able to get a hold of her? 890 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:14,790 How does she escape when the windows and doors were shut? 891 00:38:14,876 --> 00:38:17,296 Could this be a case of divine intervention? 892 00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:19,298 Or something else? 893 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,090 Let’s check in with our experts. 894 00:38:21,174 --> 00:38:23,344 (tense music) 895 00:38:25,261 --> 00:38:28,851 Could a window have been rolled down then rolled back up? 896 00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:32,483 Physicist Dr. Hakeem Oluseyi says it’s unlikely. 897 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,520 - Most cars today, the windows aren’t manual. 898 00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:36,695 They’re powered windows, 899 00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:40,365 and we know that water and electricity don’t mix. 900 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:43,205 It’s gonna short out the electrical system eventually. 901 00:38:43,279 --> 00:38:45,109 So a person doesn’t have very much time 902 00:38:45,198 --> 00:38:49,578 to lower those windows before it’s impossible to lower them. 903 00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:51,162 - [Tony] Something else to consider. 904 00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:53,826 Could a door have been opened, then later shut? 905 00:38:53,915 --> 00:38:56,385 Dr. Oluseyi concludes that would’ve required 906 00:38:56,501 --> 00:38:57,591 a huge feat of strength. 907 00:38:57,710 --> 00:39:00,960 - [Hakeem] Physics works against allowing them to escape. 908 00:39:01,047 --> 00:39:05,677 The car feels a force pushing in on it on all sides. 909 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,760 So a person inside the car, 910 00:39:07,887 --> 00:39:10,507 when they’ll try to open that door, 911 00:39:10,598 --> 00:39:12,728 they’re working against that incredible force 912 00:39:12,851 --> 00:39:15,061 and there is no person strong enough 913 00:39:15,144 --> 00:39:17,064 to open such a car door. 914 00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:18,108 - [Tony] Oluseyi says, 915 00:39:18,231 --> 00:39:20,401 if you wait for the pressure to equalize, 916 00:39:20,483 --> 00:39:21,863 the car will be so full of water 917 00:39:21,943 --> 00:39:23,863 that there’s no air left to breathe. 918 00:39:23,945 --> 00:39:27,665 So we have to consider, was this a miracle? 919 00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:28,620 We ask Michael O’Neill, 920 00:39:28,741 --> 00:39:30,371 a trained engineer who researches 921 00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:32,751 claims of miracles in the Catholic church. 922 00:39:32,829 --> 00:39:35,079 All we know is there is not a clear explanation, 923 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:36,206 naturally speaking, 924 00:39:36,291 --> 00:39:38,501 of how that person was saved from the vehicle. 925 00:39:38,585 --> 00:39:40,675 Was one of the rescuers an angel, 926 00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:43,383 or some other divine presence that opened that door 927 00:39:43,464 --> 00:39:46,724 and got the person out in an inexplicable way? 928 00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:49,551 - So you look at all of the elements that are in play, 929 00:39:49,637 --> 00:39:52,597 the camera crew stopping just in time 930 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:54,104 to capture that footage 931 00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:56,063 as well as a physician being on site. 932 00:39:56,144 --> 00:39:57,274 And you have to ask yourself, 933 00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:59,475 is there something else at work here? 934 00:39:59,606 --> 00:40:02,436 It was meant, it seems for other people to witness 935 00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:06,105 that miracles occur and maybe happen every day. 936 00:40:08,031 --> 00:40:10,451 (tense music) 937 00:40:11,618 --> 00:40:14,948 - There is a gap of time between the driver being rescued 938 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:16,499 and the car being pulled out. 939 00:40:16,623 --> 00:40:18,923 So there’s a small chance an open window 940 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,550 or door could have closed somehow during that time. 941 00:40:22,629 --> 00:40:23,749 But I’m going with our physicist. 942 00:40:23,838 --> 00:40:27,378 That’s highly unlikely because of the water pressure. 943 00:40:27,467 --> 00:40:29,797 So until we get more information, 944 00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:32,806 our verdict is possible miracle. 945 00:40:32,889 --> 00:40:33,969 And that’s our show for tonight. 946 00:40:34,057 --> 00:40:36,137 Thank you so much for watching. 947 00:40:36,225 --> 00:40:39,975 And remember, keep those cameras rolling. 948 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:43,154 (dramatic theme music)