1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,625 - Tonight, on "The Proof Is Out There", 2 00:00:03,625 --> 00:00:05,542 a worm shaped UFO in the sky. 3 00:00:05,542 --> 00:00:08,417 - The way this thing spins around in the sky 4 00:00:08,417 --> 00:00:11,625 is unlike any aircraft I've ever heard of. 5 00:00:11,625 --> 00:00:15,000 - [Tony] It's no fluke, but is this lake monster 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,667 the world's biggest goldfish? 7 00:00:16,667 --> 00:00:18,875 - You've heard of big fish in small ponds. 8 00:00:18,875 --> 00:00:20,792 Well, this is it. 9 00:00:20,792 --> 00:00:24,042 - [Tony] Strange subterranean sounds in an ancient city. 10 00:00:24,042 --> 00:00:25,750 - [Erin] Maybe someone is digging 11 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:27,958 secret underground tunnels. 12 00:00:27,958 --> 00:00:30,542 - [Tony] And does this mysterious inscription 13 00:00:30,542 --> 00:00:34,125 point the way to one of the holiest relics in history? 14 00:00:34,125 --> 00:00:37,208 - The theory goes that the Shugborough Hall inscription 15 00:00:37,208 --> 00:00:39,542 leads to the location of that lost treasure. 16 00:00:40,667 --> 00:00:43,000 (dramatic music) 17 00:00:44,917 --> 00:00:46,375 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 18 00:00:46,375 --> 00:00:48,208 - [Witness] What are those things? 19 00:00:48,208 --> 00:00:49,542 - [Witness] It's moving. 20 00:00:49,542 --> 00:00:53,375 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 21 00:00:53,375 --> 00:00:55,500 (static buzzing) 22 00:00:58,375 --> 00:01:00,375 - [Kathy] We don't know where they come from, 23 00:01:00,375 --> 00:01:01,958 who made them, or how they operate. 24 00:01:01,958 --> 00:01:03,208 - [Tony] What are they? 25 00:01:03,208 --> 00:01:05,167 - [MJ] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 26 00:01:05,167 --> 00:01:07,125 - [Marc] What's exciting is nobody really knows. 27 00:01:07,125 --> 00:01:10,208 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,083 - I'm Tony Harris and as a journalist 29 00:01:14,083 --> 00:01:15,542 for more than 30 years, 30 00:01:15,542 --> 00:01:18,542 I've followed the facts where they take me. 31 00:01:18,542 --> 00:01:21,042 Now, I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 32 00:01:21,042 --> 00:01:23,458 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 33 00:01:24,542 --> 00:01:27,375 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 34 00:01:27,375 --> 00:01:30,542 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 35 00:01:30,542 --> 00:01:33,250 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 36 00:01:33,250 --> 00:01:35,250 - This video was clearly faked. 37 00:01:35,250 --> 00:01:37,625 - The proof starts now. 38 00:01:37,625 --> 00:01:39,708 (dramatic music) 39 00:01:45,583 --> 00:01:48,375 Good evening and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 40 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:50,792 Everyone knows how much I love our fans, 41 00:01:50,792 --> 00:01:53,542 so when one of them tweeted me a video of a UFO 42 00:01:53,542 --> 00:01:56,208 that interrupted their shopping trip, 43 00:01:56,208 --> 00:01:59,667 let's just say it really wormed its way into my heart. 44 00:01:59,667 --> 00:02:01,500 Take a look. 45 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:05,458 February 2022, Colorado Springs, Colorado. 46 00:02:05,458 --> 00:02:07,958 "Proof" viewer Bruce Lanni is picking up his son 47 00:02:07,958 --> 00:02:09,500 to go to the hardware store. 48 00:02:10,542 --> 00:02:13,417 Their outing gets put on hold when Bruce spots 49 00:02:13,417 --> 00:02:17,208 a long, dark shape hovering high in the sky above them. 50 00:02:17,208 --> 00:02:19,625 - We looked up in the sky and all of a sudden 51 00:02:19,625 --> 00:02:22,375 we saw this kind of anomalous feature 52 00:02:22,375 --> 00:02:24,625 and didn't know really what it is. 53 00:02:24,625 --> 00:02:26,833 - [Tony] Look closer. As Bruce starts filming, 54 00:02:26,833 --> 00:02:30,125 his son Christian provides the color commentary. 55 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:37,208 - I mean, it took us back, 56 00:02:37,208 --> 00:02:39,708 because at first it was horizontal, 57 00:02:39,708 --> 00:02:40,833 then it turned vertical. 58 00:02:42,750 --> 00:02:45,500 - [Bruce] And it looked between 40 and 60 feet long. 59 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:52,292 - It was definitely not anything that I have ever seen. 60 00:02:52,292 --> 00:02:54,833 - [Tony] Bruce was quick to reach out to us on Twitter 61 00:02:54,833 --> 00:02:56,542 because as a fan of the show, 62 00:02:56,542 --> 00:02:58,708 he believes there's something else up there. 63 00:02:58,708 --> 00:03:00,542 - Actually, I'm a pretty firm believer in that, 64 00:03:00,542 --> 00:03:02,667 because even if you go back throughout history, 65 00:03:02,667 --> 00:03:05,625 you can see two, three, 4,000 years ago 66 00:03:05,625 --> 00:03:10,208 depictions of objects in the sky that can't be explained. 67 00:03:10,208 --> 00:03:12,000 - [Tony] As author Amy Teitel points out, 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,375 almost every ancient culture has tales 69 00:03:14,375 --> 00:03:16,750 of strange, worm-like, flying objects. 70 00:03:16,750 --> 00:03:19,208 - There are a lot of myths in different cultures 71 00:03:19,208 --> 00:03:21,625 concerning worm-like beings, 72 00:03:21,625 --> 00:03:24,375 although sometimes they're more serpents or dragons 73 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:25,958 that can move through the sky. 74 00:03:25,958 --> 00:03:28,417 - [Tony] UFO investigators wonder if these legends 75 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:31,167 are how the ancients described UFOs. 76 00:03:31,167 --> 00:03:33,792 In 1561, observers in Nuremberg, Germany, 77 00:03:33,792 --> 00:03:36,208 described an assortment of these objects. 78 00:03:36,208 --> 00:03:39,792 Orbs, crosses, rods, and malleable strips. 79 00:03:39,792 --> 00:03:42,708 At the time, it was interpreted as a sign from God, 80 00:03:42,708 --> 00:03:45,333 but it's been speculated the objects may have been engaged 81 00:03:45,333 --> 00:03:47,875 in some kind of extraterrestrial battle. 82 00:03:48,958 --> 00:03:52,208 In our modern era, when people spot sky worms 83 00:03:52,208 --> 00:03:55,208 or other UAPs, they don't just pray, 84 00:03:55,208 --> 00:03:57,500 they often call the cops. 85 00:03:57,500 --> 00:04:00,542 - [Amy] In April 2022 above Lazy Mountain in Alaska, 86 00:04:00,542 --> 00:04:04,042 there was a sighting of a worm-like object in the sky. 87 00:04:04,042 --> 00:04:05,583 And there were enough eyewitnesses 88 00:04:05,583 --> 00:04:07,417 that police were dispatched to the area 89 00:04:07,417 --> 00:04:10,792 to see whether it was a UFO or a downed plane. 90 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:12,500 - [Tony] After finding no wreckage, 91 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:15,333 state officials blamed the phenomenon on the contrail 92 00:04:15,333 --> 00:04:18,000 from a New York bound jetliner. 93 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,542 But this strange object 94 00:04:19,542 --> 00:04:22,333 doesn't appear to have anything to do with a plane. 95 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:25,208 - The way this thing spins around in the sky 96 00:04:25,208 --> 00:04:27,875 is unlike any aircraft I've ever heard of. 97 00:04:29,375 --> 00:04:30,708 - Let's take a closer look 98 00:04:30,708 --> 00:04:32,917 at that sudden rotation of the object. 99 00:04:32,917 --> 00:04:36,583 It's this counterclockwise motion happening right here 100 00:04:36,583 --> 00:04:38,625 that is really intriguing to us. 101 00:04:38,625 --> 00:04:42,083 If we time it, that's about a 180 degree turn 102 00:04:42,083 --> 00:04:44,000 in less than 10 seconds. 103 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,708 So what kind of estimated 40 to 60 foot craft 104 00:04:46,708 --> 00:04:49,042 could make that speedy move? 105 00:04:49,042 --> 00:04:50,792 Let's see what our experts think. 106 00:04:50,792 --> 00:04:52,917 (tense music) 107 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:57,250 Aviation analyst Tim McMillan agrees, 108 00:04:57,250 --> 00:04:59,583 there's something strange on Bruce's video. 109 00:04:59,583 --> 00:05:01,875 - It's certainly odd. 110 00:05:01,875 --> 00:05:07,792 It doesn't readily resemble an aircraft, a helicopter, 111 00:05:07,792 --> 00:05:11,333 or any type of object that you would typically see 112 00:05:11,333 --> 00:05:13,125 traveling through the sky 113 00:05:13,125 --> 00:05:16,708 and there's no distinguishable pattern to its flight path. 114 00:05:16,708 --> 00:05:18,750 - [Tony] What McMillan doesn't see is evidence 115 00:05:18,750 --> 00:05:21,625 of any of the dazzling, possibly alien tech 116 00:05:21,625 --> 00:05:24,708 documented in other UFO sightings. 117 00:05:24,708 --> 00:05:27,083 - [Tim] You don't see any extreme speeds 118 00:05:27,083 --> 00:05:29,250 and then right angled turns, 119 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:31,167 you know, instantaneous acceleration, 120 00:05:31,167 --> 00:05:32,500 abrupt deceleration. 121 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,458 We don't see any of that. 122 00:05:34,458 --> 00:05:36,708 It moves very consistently with something 123 00:05:36,708 --> 00:05:38,375 that is either achieving lift, 124 00:05:38,375 --> 00:05:42,083 or being propelled solely on wind motion. 125 00:05:42,083 --> 00:05:45,292 - [Tony] If the object isn't controlled by aliens in space, 126 00:05:45,292 --> 00:05:49,583 is it possible it's controlled by a human holding a string? 127 00:05:49,583 --> 00:05:52,625 - Whatever this object is, it has a definite orientation 128 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:54,875 it wants to maintain towards the ground, 129 00:05:54,875 --> 00:05:57,125 so which would suggest there's something 130 00:05:57,125 --> 00:05:59,875 holding it down or a payload that's keeping it that way. 131 00:05:59,875 --> 00:06:03,625 So that would certainly be consistent with a kite. 132 00:06:03,625 --> 00:06:05,875 - If the apparent size of Blake's object 133 00:06:05,875 --> 00:06:09,375 makes the kite theory sound farfetched, consider this. 134 00:06:09,375 --> 00:06:10,833 The world's largest kite 135 00:06:10,833 --> 00:06:13,000 flown in the Middle Eastern nation of Qatar 136 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,708 stretches over 200 feet. 137 00:06:14,708 --> 00:06:16,750 That's large enough to potentially lift 138 00:06:16,750 --> 00:06:18,833 the kite flyer into the air. 139 00:06:18,833 --> 00:06:21,417 - [Tim] You certainly could have a kite 140 00:06:21,417 --> 00:06:23,542 that would be oddly shaped like this, 141 00:06:23,542 --> 00:06:26,833 or perhaps a more conventional kite that has a long tail 142 00:06:26,833 --> 00:06:28,708 that's giving us this appearance. 143 00:06:29,875 --> 00:06:32,417 - [Tony] Video effects designer and astronomer Marc D'Antonio 144 00:06:32,417 --> 00:06:34,958 agrees with many of McMillan's observations, 145 00:06:34,958 --> 00:06:37,667 but he does not agree with the kite theory. 146 00:06:37,667 --> 00:06:40,625 - This could very well be a solar balloon. 147 00:06:40,625 --> 00:06:44,375 Those are long and thin and black like we see here. 148 00:06:44,375 --> 00:06:45,875 And because they're black 149 00:06:45,875 --> 00:06:48,208 and they're absorbing the sun's radiation, 150 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:53,042 the air inside tends to get warm and it will start rising, 151 00:06:53,042 --> 00:06:55,583 the same principle as a hot air balloon. 152 00:06:55,583 --> 00:06:57,875 And so what people do with these solar balloons 153 00:06:57,875 --> 00:07:00,542 is they hold them out lengthwise, 154 00:07:00,542 --> 00:07:02,542 they let the sun heat it up, 155 00:07:02,542 --> 00:07:05,167 and eventually when it stands up, you kind of push it 156 00:07:05,167 --> 00:07:09,542 a little bit into the air and off it goes up into the sky. 157 00:07:09,542 --> 00:07:11,875 (tense music) 158 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:15,833 - Our verdict, solar balloon, 159 00:07:15,833 --> 00:07:18,417 or as Blake's son Christian would put it, 160 00:07:18,417 --> 00:07:20,375 "A bleeping solar balloon." 161 00:07:20,375 --> 00:07:24,708 The color, shape, and way it moves seems pretty conclusive. 162 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:27,542 Now, solar balloons can be dangerous to other aircraft, 163 00:07:27,542 --> 00:07:30,583 so always follow the FAA's guidelines 164 00:07:30,583 --> 00:07:32,458 if you plan to release one. 165 00:07:34,250 --> 00:07:38,042 The goldfish is known and beloved as a common first pet. 166 00:07:38,042 --> 00:07:40,708 Though they often don't live long without proper care 167 00:07:40,708 --> 00:07:42,667 and the right living conditions. 168 00:07:42,667 --> 00:07:44,708 But the creature you're about to see didn't just 169 00:07:44,708 --> 00:07:49,167 outlive the average goldfish, it outgrew them big time. 170 00:07:49,167 --> 00:07:52,208 We're not just gonna need a bigger fishbowl here, 171 00:07:52,208 --> 00:07:53,875 we're gonna need a bigger lake. 172 00:07:54,875 --> 00:07:58,167 It's November of 2022 in Putteville, France. 173 00:07:58,167 --> 00:08:01,042 A man from the UK is fishing at Blue Water Lakes 174 00:08:01,042 --> 00:08:02,333 in the Champagne region. 175 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:04,500 Fishery manager Jason Cowler is there 176 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:06,042 when he gets a big bite. 177 00:08:06,042 --> 00:08:07,708 - Hey! 178 00:08:07,708 --> 00:08:09,792 It was amazing, it was mind blowing. 179 00:08:09,792 --> 00:08:13,208 I kept calling it the carrot, it looks like a big carrot. 180 00:08:13,208 --> 00:08:15,542 - [Tony] One of the largest goldfish on record, 181 00:08:15,542 --> 00:08:19,250 found in South Carolina, weighs in at nine pounds, 182 00:08:19,250 --> 00:08:21,792 so this would be more than seven times the size. 183 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:23,958 - She's probably one of the biggest ones 184 00:08:23,958 --> 00:08:26,042 of her color and size out there. 185 00:08:26,042 --> 00:08:29,208 It is just one of those things, freak of nature. 186 00:08:29,208 --> 00:08:30,875 Yeah, it is quite exciting. 187 00:08:30,875 --> 00:08:32,792 - [Tony] Though we think of goldfish as 188 00:08:32,792 --> 00:08:34,208 small, everyday pets, 189 00:08:34,208 --> 00:08:36,875 bigger versions have been bred throughout East Asia 190 00:08:36,875 --> 00:08:38,958 since around the 9th or 10th century. 191 00:08:38,958 --> 00:08:40,875 And field researcher Ken Gerhard 192 00:08:40,875 --> 00:08:43,958 says the largest specimens became objects of wonder. 193 00:08:43,958 --> 00:08:45,583 - One legend in fact stated 194 00:08:45,583 --> 00:08:47,500 that they were a gift from the gods 195 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:49,958 and because of this remarkable gold color, 196 00:08:49,958 --> 00:08:51,875 they were often viewed as a sign 197 00:08:51,875 --> 00:08:54,125 of prosperity and great wealth. 198 00:08:54,125 --> 00:08:56,792 - [Tony] Mutant goldfish with unusual characteristics 199 00:08:56,792 --> 00:08:58,750 were so prized that they weren't killed 200 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:00,500 or eaten when they were caught, 201 00:09:00,500 --> 00:09:02,708 but were instead shown mercy. 202 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:05,167 - Ancient Buddhist monks would introduce goldfish 203 00:09:05,167 --> 00:09:08,750 into mercy ponds and this was viewed as a good deed 204 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:12,708 or an act of self purification, called fang sheng. 205 00:09:12,708 --> 00:09:15,167 - [Tony] So while this may not be an act of mercy, 206 00:09:15,167 --> 00:09:18,208 could it be an instance where a pet goldfish was released 207 00:09:18,208 --> 00:09:21,875 into the wild when it outgrew its owner's expectations? 208 00:09:21,875 --> 00:09:24,875 In South Florida, the non-native Burmese python 209 00:09:24,875 --> 00:09:27,875 has become an invasive species ever since pet owners 210 00:09:27,875 --> 00:09:31,167 began releasing them when they got too big. 211 00:09:31,167 --> 00:09:35,917 In fact, in July 2023, a record 19 foot long snake, 212 00:09:35,917 --> 00:09:38,583 that's as long as a giraffe is tall, 213 00:09:38,583 --> 00:09:41,833 was captured in Big Cyprus National Preserve. 214 00:09:41,833 --> 00:09:44,708 But yet another theory is that this giant fish 215 00:09:44,708 --> 00:09:47,500 could be a product of human manipulation. 216 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:49,917 Consider this. In 2015, 217 00:09:49,917 --> 00:09:53,958 the FDA approved a brand new manmade species of fish 218 00:09:53,958 --> 00:09:56,125 called the AquAdvantage Salmon. 219 00:09:56,125 --> 00:09:58,917 - [Ken] These salmon are genetically engineered 220 00:09:58,917 --> 00:10:03,250 and this is done by introducing super, hyper proteins 221 00:10:03,250 --> 00:10:05,250 into their genetic code. 222 00:10:05,250 --> 00:10:09,708 And the AquaAdvantage Salmon are said to grow twice as fast 223 00:10:09,708 --> 00:10:12,125 as standard farm fed salmon. 224 00:10:12,125 --> 00:10:14,833 So it's not impossible that we could be dealing 225 00:10:14,833 --> 00:10:16,958 with a similar situation here, 226 00:10:16,958 --> 00:10:18,750 where this fish has been exposed 227 00:10:18,750 --> 00:10:20,958 to some type of genetic manipulation. 228 00:10:22,792 --> 00:10:25,042 - Researchers have been able to increase the size 229 00:10:25,042 --> 00:10:28,625 of various fish by transferring a growth hormone gene 230 00:10:28,625 --> 00:10:30,625 from one species to another. 231 00:10:30,625 --> 00:10:33,583 For example, a mud loach developed in Korea 232 00:10:33,583 --> 00:10:37,542 is able to grow 35 times faster than normal. 233 00:10:37,542 --> 00:10:39,375 So what's up with the carrot? 234 00:10:39,375 --> 00:10:40,792 Let's turn to our experts 235 00:10:40,792 --> 00:10:43,708 to filet down this overgrown fish tail. 236 00:10:43,708 --> 00:10:46,042 (tense music) 237 00:10:47,833 --> 00:10:50,208 First forensic video analyst Michael Primeau 238 00:10:50,208 --> 00:10:53,333 determines if this fish story is too good to be true, 239 00:10:53,333 --> 00:10:54,833 despite the digital evidence. 240 00:10:54,833 --> 00:10:56,833 - A high degree of sophistication would be needed 241 00:10:56,833 --> 00:10:59,208 to fabricate these images to recreate 242 00:10:59,208 --> 00:11:02,292 the translucence of this object in the water, 243 00:11:02,292 --> 00:11:03,542 as well as the shadow. 244 00:11:03,542 --> 00:11:06,125 You see the shadow of the individual that's holding it 245 00:11:06,125 --> 00:11:09,875 and as the water changes position as the fish enters, 246 00:11:09,875 --> 00:11:12,042 characteristically, this would be incredibly difficult 247 00:11:12,042 --> 00:11:14,917 to fake, so these images are real. 248 00:11:14,917 --> 00:11:17,333 - [Tony] Marine biologist Dr. Shea Steingass 249 00:11:17,333 --> 00:11:20,708 says released goldfish can be pretty large, 250 00:11:20,708 --> 00:11:22,667 because it's the size of their tank 251 00:11:22,667 --> 00:11:25,042 that limits how big they can get as pets. 252 00:11:25,042 --> 00:11:27,125 They'll keep growing in the wild as long 253 00:11:27,125 --> 00:11:29,000 as they have the right water temperature 254 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,958 and enough food and space. 255 00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:33,792 But Steingass still isn't sure this fish 256 00:11:33,792 --> 00:11:35,250 is a goldfish at all, 257 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:38,875 because it has other traits that are uncharacteristic. 258 00:11:38,875 --> 00:11:42,875 - Its dorsal fins extend all the way down its back, 259 00:11:42,875 --> 00:11:45,375 whereas goldfish don't really have this feature. 260 00:11:45,375 --> 00:11:49,292 And you see that it has a little feature on its mouth 261 00:11:49,292 --> 00:11:51,750 that looks a little bit like an antenna, 262 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:53,542 and that's called a barbel. 263 00:11:53,542 --> 00:11:57,125 If this were just a large goldfish, we wouldn't actually 264 00:11:57,125 --> 00:11:59,875 see that particular organ, so we can narrow down 265 00:11:59,875 --> 00:12:01,542 that this is in fact a carp. 266 00:12:01,542 --> 00:12:05,375 - [Tony] The carrot may not be a genetically engineered mutant, 267 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:09,208 but Steingass says this is a selectively bred hybrid. 268 00:12:09,208 --> 00:12:13,792 - This is actually a hybrid of a leather carp and a koi carp 269 00:12:13,792 --> 00:12:16,750 and both of these species are bred selectively, 270 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:18,708 and in some cases, koi can sell 271 00:12:18,708 --> 00:12:21,625 for over a million dollars per fish. 272 00:12:21,625 --> 00:12:24,250 - [Tony] Once we tracked down Jason, the fishery manager, 273 00:12:24,250 --> 00:12:26,292 he explained that the fish are stocked 274 00:12:26,292 --> 00:12:29,375 and fed in the pond where the carrot comes from. 275 00:12:29,375 --> 00:12:31,750 So she's been able to grow this large 276 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:34,708 thanks to the absence of any natural predators. 277 00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:37,000 (tense music) 278 00:12:37,458 --> 00:12:40,333 Our verdict, we're going to say this massive fish 279 00:12:40,333 --> 00:12:42,917 is the product of selective breeding. 280 00:12:42,917 --> 00:12:46,375 It's a hybrid carp rather than an oversized goldfish. 281 00:12:46,375 --> 00:12:48,250 As for whether she has spiritual properties 282 00:12:48,250 --> 00:12:51,375 as the ninth century Chinese monks believed, 283 00:12:51,375 --> 00:12:52,708 we can only say that 284 00:12:52,708 --> 00:12:54,708 the fishermen who caught this mega fish 285 00:12:54,708 --> 00:12:58,167 had enough reverence for her to let her live another day. 286 00:13:02,875 --> 00:13:05,292 (dramatic music) 287 00:13:07,625 --> 00:13:11,333 - The city of Thessaloniki in Greece is more than a town 288 00:13:11,333 --> 00:13:14,875 full of beautiful old buildings and colorful sunsets. 289 00:13:14,875 --> 00:13:18,500 The city also has secret sites, underground networks, 290 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:22,792 and more than its fair share of allegedly haunted locations. 291 00:13:22,792 --> 00:13:25,042 Did any of that cause the nightly disturbances 292 00:13:25,042 --> 00:13:27,583 that terrified its citizens for over a month? 293 00:13:28,875 --> 00:13:32,042 It's after midnight in early December 2021 294 00:13:32,042 --> 00:13:34,875 and the residents of the Meteora Polichni area 295 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:37,042 in Thessaloniki, Greece are awakened 296 00:13:37,042 --> 00:13:39,042 by a strange and booming noise. 297 00:13:39,042 --> 00:13:41,250 (rhythmic deep thumping) - (speaking Greek) 298 00:13:42,667 --> 00:13:44,375 (dog barking) 299 00:13:46,417 --> 00:13:48,667 - [Tony] Take a listen to that sound again. 300 00:13:48,667 --> 00:13:52,292 (rhythmic deep thumping) 301 00:13:52,292 --> 00:13:55,250 Residents have described it as deafening and otherworldly 302 00:13:55,250 --> 00:13:57,375 and it can be heard from over a mile away 303 00:13:57,375 --> 00:13:59,875 as it makes the ground shake and tremble. 304 00:13:59,875 --> 00:14:02,417 - (speaking Greek) (rhythmic deep thumping) 305 00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:09,417 - [Tony] Representatives from the Thessaloniki 306 00:14:09,417 --> 00:14:11,500 Water Supply Authority quickly said 307 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:14,750 the sounds weren't emanating from any sewer system. 308 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:16,167 Journalist Erin McCarthy says 309 00:14:16,167 --> 00:14:18,542 that's when the citizens began to speculate. 310 00:14:18,542 --> 00:14:20,208 - There are a lot of theories 311 00:14:20,208 --> 00:14:22,250 as to what these sounds could be. 312 00:14:22,250 --> 00:14:25,625 Some have suggested that maybe someone is digging 313 00:14:25,625 --> 00:14:28,042 secret underground tunnels. 314 00:14:28,042 --> 00:14:31,167 - [Tony] You see, 16.5 feet below street level 315 00:14:31,167 --> 00:14:33,333 are the catacombs of St. John, 316 00:14:33,333 --> 00:14:35,167 a vast array of underground tunnels 317 00:14:35,167 --> 00:14:36,958 that many believe are only part 318 00:14:36,958 --> 00:14:39,542 of a huge hidden subterranean network 319 00:14:39,542 --> 00:14:41,750 that's still being extended. 320 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:44,250 Then, there's the supernatural theory. 321 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:46,208 McCarthy says that Thessaloniki 322 00:14:46,208 --> 00:14:48,417 is frequently called the City Of Ghosts, 323 00:14:48,417 --> 00:14:51,583 known for its many allegedly haunted locations. 324 00:14:51,583 --> 00:14:52,500 - Some have even wondered, 325 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:55,667 could this be a ghostly, tortured spirit? 326 00:14:56,708 --> 00:14:59,792 The area actually became one of the most visited spots 327 00:14:59,792 --> 00:15:01,875 for paranormal enthusiasts. 328 00:15:01,875 --> 00:15:04,250 - [Tony] There may be no bigger draw for ghost hunters 329 00:15:04,250 --> 00:15:06,792 than the legendary Longos Mansion, 330 00:15:06,792 --> 00:15:08,708 also known as the Red House. 331 00:15:08,708 --> 00:15:11,750 - It's a huge mansion that was built in 1926 332 00:15:11,750 --> 00:15:14,375 for local industrialist Ioannis Longos. 333 00:15:14,375 --> 00:15:17,167 Almost immediately, really weird things 334 00:15:17,167 --> 00:15:19,250 started happening at the Red House. 335 00:15:19,250 --> 00:15:21,500 Part of the building was destroyed in a fire 336 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:25,208 and there were reports of paranormal activity. 337 00:15:25,208 --> 00:15:27,292 - [Tony] Many residents have reported strange sounds 338 00:15:27,292 --> 00:15:29,375 and noises from the Red House. 339 00:15:29,375 --> 00:15:33,042 Rumors even spread that it was housing a crypt of vampires. 340 00:15:33,042 --> 00:15:35,542 Perhaps that's the origin of these strange sounds, 341 00:15:35,542 --> 00:15:39,375 or perhaps there's a simple seismological explanation. 342 00:15:39,375 --> 00:15:42,208 - Others have suggested that maybe it's an earthquake. 343 00:15:44,083 --> 00:15:47,708 - So, strange noises in an ancient Greek city. 344 00:15:47,708 --> 00:15:49,208 We've got ghosts, earthquakes, 345 00:15:49,208 --> 00:15:52,333 and secret tunneling as competing theories. 346 00:15:52,333 --> 00:15:55,208 To find out what's really responsible for all the ruckus, 347 00:15:55,208 --> 00:15:57,792 we need our experts to sound off. 348 00:15:57,792 --> 00:16:00,125 (tense music) 349 00:16:01,792 --> 00:16:04,333 First up, geologist Dr. Bob Anderson 350 00:16:04,333 --> 00:16:06,167 considers the seismic theory. 351 00:16:06,167 --> 00:16:07,833 (rhythmic deep thumping) 352 00:16:07,833 --> 00:16:10,208 - Well, the most common sounds that you would get in nature 353 00:16:10,208 --> 00:16:13,208 would be earthquakes or faults or something breaking, 354 00:16:13,208 --> 00:16:15,375 but those kinds of sounds that you hear, 355 00:16:15,375 --> 00:16:17,250 it's very short lived, very quick. 356 00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:20,292 (rhythmic deep thumping) (people speaking Greek) 357 00:16:22,542 --> 00:16:25,583 - This sound is very rhythmic, it's very constant. 358 00:16:25,583 --> 00:16:28,333 It doesn't actually vary very much at all, 359 00:16:28,333 --> 00:16:31,042 which leads me to believe that it's some machinery 360 00:16:31,042 --> 00:16:34,375 down below, whether they are digging tunnels, 361 00:16:34,375 --> 00:16:37,667 or running pipe, or whether there is a power station 362 00:16:37,667 --> 00:16:39,042 or something nearby. 363 00:16:39,042 --> 00:16:41,375 - [Tony] Forensic Audio Analyst, Dr. Rob Maher, 364 00:16:41,375 --> 00:16:43,208 agrees with Anderson that the noises 365 00:16:43,208 --> 00:16:45,125 seem to be mechanical in nature. 366 00:16:45,125 --> 00:16:47,375 - When we look at the time waveform 367 00:16:47,375 --> 00:16:49,583 and the spectrogram for the sound... 368 00:16:49,583 --> 00:16:52,375 (rhythmic deep thumping) 369 00:16:53,375 --> 00:16:56,333 The time between the different sounds varies a little bit, 370 00:16:56,333 --> 00:17:00,167 but they have that relatively rhythmic quality to them. 371 00:17:00,167 --> 00:17:03,458 The fact that they're relatively loud and low frequency 372 00:17:03,458 --> 00:17:06,708 indicates to me there's some mechanical aspect to this. 373 00:17:06,708 --> 00:17:09,250 - [Tony] But what's making the mechanical pounding? 374 00:17:09,250 --> 00:17:12,333 Troubled ghosts, secret excavators? 375 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:13,792 Maher has his own theory. 376 00:17:13,792 --> 00:17:16,708 - One of the sources of a rhythmic sound like this 377 00:17:16,708 --> 00:17:20,875 could be a plumbing phenomenon known as a water hammer. 378 00:17:20,875 --> 00:17:23,583 (water hammer thumping) 379 00:17:24,542 --> 00:17:27,125 Anyone who might have steam radiators 380 00:17:27,125 --> 00:17:30,292 is familiar with this "whump" sound that happens 381 00:17:30,292 --> 00:17:32,083 due to the flow of those liquids 382 00:17:32,083 --> 00:17:34,333 in the thermal system of the pipe. 383 00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:37,000 - [Tony] When a valve of running water is quickly closed, 384 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,167 the stream slams into the valve 385 00:17:39,167 --> 00:17:41,208 at nearly eight times the pressure, 386 00:17:41,208 --> 00:17:43,125 creating a shock wave through the pipes 387 00:17:43,125 --> 00:17:45,417 that makes the water hammer sound. 388 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:48,125 And the bigger the pipes, the bigger the sound. 389 00:17:48,125 --> 00:17:50,542 - So that type of sound is what we're hearing here, 390 00:17:50,542 --> 00:17:52,625 but on a much larger scale. 391 00:17:52,625 --> 00:17:54,208 - [Tony] He puts the theory to the test 392 00:17:54,208 --> 00:17:55,875 when he runs a comparative analysis 393 00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:57,875 of the Thessaloniki mystery sounds 394 00:17:57,875 --> 00:17:59,125 and the sounds made 395 00:17:59,125 --> 00:18:01,417 by a residential water hammer in action. 396 00:18:01,417 --> 00:18:04,250 - When we look at this recording of a water hammer 397 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:06,333 situation in a residence... 398 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:10,375 (water hammer thumping) 399 00:18:10,375 --> 00:18:12,250 We can see that there is a lot of energy 400 00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:15,625 in this low frequency range down around 100 hertz. 401 00:18:15,625 --> 00:18:18,667 So that mechanical source of the sound is very similar. 402 00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:23,083 (rhythmic deep thumping) 403 00:18:23,083 --> 00:18:26,417 (water hammer thumping) 404 00:18:27,708 --> 00:18:29,792 The characteristics of the frequency range 405 00:18:29,792 --> 00:18:32,042 and the repetition are both consistent 406 00:18:32,042 --> 00:18:34,333 between those two types of sounds. 407 00:18:34,333 --> 00:18:36,750 (tense music) 408 00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:39,125 - Our verdict, water hammer. 409 00:18:39,125 --> 00:18:41,292 Incidentally, we did some more digging 410 00:18:41,292 --> 00:18:43,625 and it turns out that even though representatives 411 00:18:43,625 --> 00:18:47,333 from Thessaloniki Water Supply originally denied 412 00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:48,958 the noise was coming from them, 413 00:18:48,958 --> 00:18:50,542 the president of the Water Authority 414 00:18:50,542 --> 00:18:52,500 later made an announcement that the sound 415 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:56,583 was coming from routine tuning of the water supply. 416 00:18:56,583 --> 00:19:00,708 So for now, let's just call this water under the bridge. 417 00:19:05,833 --> 00:19:07,958 (dramatic music) 418 00:19:10,708 --> 00:19:13,042 - The imagery of the creature from the "Black Lagoon" 419 00:19:13,042 --> 00:19:17,333 has captivated our imaginations for almost 75 years. 420 00:19:17,333 --> 00:19:20,042 But what if I told you there was a real creature 421 00:19:20,042 --> 00:19:21,583 from a mud lagoon? 422 00:19:22,667 --> 00:19:26,500 August 8th, 2017, north Queensland, Australia. 423 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:28,542 David White, who runs cruises 424 00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:31,375 in the Daintree River Wildlife Preserve, 425 00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:33,542 is hoping to capture footage of a crocodile 426 00:19:33,542 --> 00:19:35,458 he had spotted earlier in the day, 427 00:19:35,458 --> 00:19:38,708 but instead, he captures something much more disturbing. 428 00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:43,042 A tide pool sits undisturbed, 429 00:19:43,042 --> 00:19:45,000 something sticks out of the water. 430 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,292 Still, it could almost be a rock, 431 00:19:47,292 --> 00:19:50,875 but then, slowly, it begins to descend 432 00:19:50,875 --> 00:19:52,833 straight down into the pool. 433 00:19:52,833 --> 00:19:56,208 It goes down, down, down, 434 00:19:56,208 --> 00:19:58,708 until eventually it sinks under the surface 435 00:19:58,708 --> 00:20:02,542 and out of view, leaving only a tiny bubble in its wake. 436 00:20:03,875 --> 00:20:07,708 Is this a creature, a rock, or something else entirely? 437 00:20:07,708 --> 00:20:09,542 Field researcher Ken Gerhard believes 438 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:11,875 we could be looking at a famed monstrosity 439 00:20:11,875 --> 00:20:13,375 from the land down under. 440 00:20:13,375 --> 00:20:16,917 - When I think of Australia, I think of the bunyip. 441 00:20:16,917 --> 00:20:18,417 Like many legendary creatures, 442 00:20:18,417 --> 00:20:20,875 the bunyip has various interpretations, 443 00:20:20,875 --> 00:20:24,792 but the most common one is that it is an aquatic creature, 444 00:20:24,792 --> 00:20:28,250 covered in hair with a head like a dog, 445 00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:30,417 very large and powerful. 446 00:20:30,417 --> 00:20:33,708 And the Aboriginal people greatly fear the bunyip 447 00:20:33,708 --> 00:20:36,542 because it's said to come onto the land at night, 448 00:20:36,542 --> 00:20:39,625 and drag its unwilling victims back into the swamp. 449 00:20:39,625 --> 00:20:41,500 - [Tony] Bunyip sightings were reported 450 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,458 in Australia newspapers throughout the 19th 451 00:20:43,458 --> 00:20:47,458 and 20th centuries, dating as far back as 1851, 452 00:20:47,458 --> 00:20:48,667 where it was reported 453 00:20:48,667 --> 00:20:51,292 that a bunyip had killed an Aboriginal man 454 00:20:51,292 --> 00:20:53,333 and had to be speared to death. 455 00:20:53,333 --> 00:20:54,875 - Being that the bunyip legend 456 00:20:54,875 --> 00:20:57,667 is so prevalent throughout Australia, 457 00:20:57,667 --> 00:20:59,750 I think we have to stop and consider the possibility 458 00:20:59,750 --> 00:21:01,708 that what we could be looking at here 459 00:21:01,708 --> 00:21:04,542 might be at the root of this bunyip mythology. 460 00:21:07,208 --> 00:21:09,500 - So the theory suggests that this is in fact 461 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,333 some kind of living thing. 462 00:21:11,333 --> 00:21:13,792 Is it possibly a new discovery? 463 00:21:13,792 --> 00:21:17,542 Australian taxonomists name an average of 1,000 new species 464 00:21:17,542 --> 00:21:20,500 each year, and its estimated that two thirds 465 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:23,875 of the continent's total species remain undocumented. 466 00:21:23,875 --> 00:21:26,000 Let's see what our experts can discover. 467 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,292 (tense music) 468 00:21:29,667 --> 00:21:32,333 Some have guessed that we're looking at the front tip 469 00:21:32,333 --> 00:21:34,208 of an Indo-Pacific crocodile. 470 00:21:34,208 --> 00:21:35,792 A species prevalent in this region, 471 00:21:35,792 --> 00:21:38,292 but our marine biologist is skeptical. 472 00:21:38,292 --> 00:21:40,542 - I can rule this out entirely as a crocodile, 473 00:21:40,542 --> 00:21:43,375 because I don't see any of the body, 474 00:21:43,375 --> 00:21:46,292 or head features of a crocodilian. 475 00:21:46,292 --> 00:21:48,250 It's not behaving like a crocodile. 476 00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:50,792 It's coming vertically up out of the water. 477 00:21:50,792 --> 00:21:53,208 And we have a little bit of size reference here 478 00:21:53,208 --> 00:21:56,208 when we see the bubble on the surface of the water, 479 00:21:56,208 --> 00:21:59,667 which means whatever this is, it's actually pretty small. 480 00:21:59,667 --> 00:22:03,708 And in addition to that, it actually has pretty smooth skin. 481 00:22:03,708 --> 00:22:06,875 - [Tony] For those same reasons, both size and smoothness, 482 00:22:06,875 --> 00:22:10,083 Steingass thinks this creature contradicts reports 483 00:22:10,083 --> 00:22:11,708 of the legendary bunyip. 484 00:22:11,708 --> 00:22:14,625 - I would probably rule out that this is a bunyip, 485 00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:17,542 especially because the bunyip is said to hunt at night 486 00:22:17,542 --> 00:22:19,708 and this footage was taken during the day. 487 00:22:19,708 --> 00:22:21,208 - [Tony] Then what is it? 488 00:22:21,208 --> 00:22:24,375 - Based on this video and looking at the environment, 489 00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:26,500 I think this is actually a mudskipper. 490 00:22:27,583 --> 00:22:29,542 - [Tony] The mudskipper is a fish 491 00:22:29,542 --> 00:22:32,792 that can spend as much time in air as in the water. 492 00:22:32,792 --> 00:22:35,000 It can grow up to 12 inches in length, 493 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,708 breathes through its skin, 494 00:22:36,708 --> 00:22:40,042 and uses its fins like legs to walk. 495 00:22:40,042 --> 00:22:41,917 But NASA geologist Bob Anderson 496 00:22:41,917 --> 00:22:44,583 says that can't be, because the environment 497 00:22:44,583 --> 00:22:47,667 is just too harsh for most known animals. 498 00:22:47,667 --> 00:22:50,417 - The environment around it, it's very carbonaceous. 499 00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:51,917 There's probably a lot of sulfate, 500 00:22:51,917 --> 00:22:54,583 because the landscape is white, so it's very toxic. 501 00:22:54,583 --> 00:22:56,750 It's not where a reptile, an alligator, 502 00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:58,042 or anything would want to live 503 00:22:58,042 --> 00:22:59,833 because there's no food source for them. 504 00:22:59,833 --> 00:23:02,500 - [Tony] So does that rule out any living organism? 505 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:03,708 Not exactly. 506 00:23:03,708 --> 00:23:06,375 - If you notice, there's a slight green tint 507 00:23:06,375 --> 00:23:08,375 to the creature, 508 00:23:08,375 --> 00:23:11,583 and so most likely that is a living organism. 509 00:23:11,583 --> 00:23:13,875 That's what we call an algal mat. 510 00:23:13,875 --> 00:23:16,500 - [Tony] An algal mat is a mat of algae 511 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,708 that may grow in water or on rocks in both toxic 512 00:23:19,708 --> 00:23:21,292 and non-toxic environments, 513 00:23:21,292 --> 00:23:24,708 which can balloon up and float to the surface while forming. 514 00:23:24,708 --> 00:23:26,875 - [Bob] In a fish tank, you'll see algae build up 515 00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:28,708 and if you have a pump in there, 516 00:23:28,708 --> 00:23:30,667 you'll see that the algae literally starts to rise, 517 00:23:30,667 --> 00:23:32,875 because the air bubbles get trapped underneath 518 00:23:32,875 --> 00:23:35,625 to lift that mat into the air, release it, 519 00:23:35,625 --> 00:23:37,625 and then the mat goes back down to the bottom. 520 00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:38,917 - [Tony] Makes sense in theory, 521 00:23:38,917 --> 00:23:42,792 but algal mats tend to look like, well, mats. 522 00:23:42,792 --> 00:23:45,375 This thing has a completely different shape. 523 00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:47,042 So what gives? 524 00:23:47,042 --> 00:23:49,167 (tense music) 525 00:23:49,875 --> 00:23:53,500 Our verdict, unknown organic specimen. 526 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,125 While our experts disagree on 527 00:23:55,125 --> 00:23:58,708 what this mysterious mud creature is, they both concur 528 00:23:58,708 --> 00:24:02,042 that it is in fact an organic life form of some sort. 529 00:24:02,042 --> 00:24:05,042 Proving that even in the harshest of environments, 530 00:24:05,042 --> 00:24:06,583 life finds a way. 531 00:24:10,958 --> 00:24:12,833 (dramatic music) 532 00:24:13,875 --> 00:24:16,458 - The relationship between space, time, and motion 533 00:24:16,458 --> 00:24:18,083 is a complex matter. 534 00:24:18,083 --> 00:24:20,917 Astrophysicists say many of these concepts 535 00:24:20,917 --> 00:24:25,042 can be explained with Einstein's theory of relativity, 536 00:24:25,042 --> 00:24:28,500 but this next clip seems to ignore all laws of physics. 537 00:24:29,833 --> 00:24:34,375 It's January 2023 in Port Colborne, Ontario, Canada. 538 00:24:34,375 --> 00:24:37,875 A woman and her young daughter are driving down Lakeshore Road 539 00:24:37,875 --> 00:24:40,875 when the mom sees something strange on the horizon. 540 00:24:40,875 --> 00:24:43,250 A video that they record from their dashboard 541 00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:46,542 shows a large white building straight ahead in the distance. 542 00:24:46,542 --> 00:24:48,000 But check this out. 543 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,625 As they drive closer, all of the trees and houses 544 00:24:50,625 --> 00:24:52,792 along the roadside stay the same size, 545 00:24:52,792 --> 00:24:55,250 while the big building seems to shrink 546 00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:56,667 right before our eyes. 547 00:24:56,667 --> 00:24:58,208 - [Driver] It's getting smaller. 548 00:25:00,583 --> 00:25:02,250 Why was that building so big? 549 00:25:03,208 --> 00:25:05,542 - [Tony] Look, as the car gets even closer 550 00:25:05,542 --> 00:25:07,875 and then rounds the bend in front of Lake Erie, 551 00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:11,417 the mill structure gets so small it nearly disappears 552 00:25:11,417 --> 00:25:13,375 below the top of the guardrail. 553 00:25:13,375 --> 00:25:17,000 Journalist Erin McCarthy believes the real world is real, 554 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,208 but she can see why phenomena like this make people wonder. 555 00:25:20,208 --> 00:25:23,958 - You would assume that the building would get bigger, 556 00:25:23,958 --> 00:25:26,875 not smaller as we approach. 557 00:25:26,875 --> 00:25:30,167 So there's definitely something very strange happening here. 558 00:25:30,167 --> 00:25:32,375 - [Tony] The comment section on this video 559 00:25:32,375 --> 00:25:34,250 is chock full of wild ideas. 560 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:37,542 Perhaps the most intriguing is that what we are seeing here 561 00:25:37,542 --> 00:25:39,708 is a glitch in the matrix. 562 00:25:39,708 --> 00:25:41,917 - There's a group called the Church of Simulation 563 00:25:41,917 --> 00:25:45,042 and they believe that the entirety of reality 564 00:25:45,042 --> 00:25:48,500 is a simulation that was created by super intelligent beings 565 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,583 and kicked off by the Big Bang. 566 00:25:50,583 --> 00:25:52,667 (explosion booming) 567 00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:55,875 - [Tony] The theory that we are living in a simulation 568 00:25:55,875 --> 00:25:58,042 has gained traction in modern times, 569 00:25:58,042 --> 00:26:00,583 thanks to Swedish philosopher, Nick Bostrom. 570 00:26:00,583 --> 00:26:03,167 Bostrom has proposed that we have simulated 571 00:26:03,167 --> 00:26:06,542 rather than biological minds, created by future advanced, 572 00:26:06,542 --> 00:26:08,500 or perhaps even alien civilizations 573 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:11,750 who have access to large enough amounts of computing power 574 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:13,958 to run many detailed simulations. 575 00:26:13,958 --> 00:26:16,083 - [Erin] This has led some people to suggest 576 00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:18,042 that the building getting smaller 577 00:26:18,042 --> 00:26:19,917 as we approach rather than larger 578 00:26:19,917 --> 00:26:22,125 is a glitch in the simulation. 579 00:26:24,250 --> 00:26:28,042 - So, could this strange, shrinking mill on Lakeshore Road 580 00:26:28,042 --> 00:26:31,208 be evidence we're living in a computer simulation? 581 00:26:31,208 --> 00:26:34,792 Is there something especially eerie about Lake Erie? 582 00:26:34,792 --> 00:26:36,708 Let's let our experts take the wheel 583 00:26:36,708 --> 00:26:38,375 and drive this one home. 584 00:26:38,375 --> 00:26:40,625 (tense music) 585 00:26:42,250 --> 00:26:44,708 We check in first with forensic video analyst 586 00:26:44,708 --> 00:26:46,833 Michael Primeau, who runs some tests. 587 00:26:46,833 --> 00:26:49,042 - Through analysis of the metadata. 588 00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:51,042 We know that this is an original camera file, 589 00:26:51,042 --> 00:26:54,750 thus we're able to authenticate the structure of this recording. 590 00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:58,042 Furthermore, additional testing of the specific pixels 591 00:26:58,042 --> 00:27:02,042 in this region did not report any significant changes 592 00:27:02,042 --> 00:27:04,083 in that center area of the image. 593 00:27:04,083 --> 00:27:06,958 - [Tony] So since this recording is the real deal, 594 00:27:06,958 --> 00:27:10,042 could this clip be showing an imperfect simulation 595 00:27:10,042 --> 00:27:11,625 that we're actually living in? 596 00:27:11,625 --> 00:27:14,875 - The whole idea that physical reality itself 597 00:27:14,875 --> 00:27:17,458 is an illusion created by a computer program 598 00:27:17,458 --> 00:27:19,042 is so fantastic. 599 00:27:19,042 --> 00:27:22,292 Think of what it would cost to maintain such a matrix. 600 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:26,167 Not just one person, but all of reality, all of space time. 601 00:27:26,167 --> 00:27:28,875 All the universe would have to be simulated 602 00:27:28,875 --> 00:27:31,917 in the memory of the matrix, not possible. 603 00:27:31,917 --> 00:27:34,417 - [Tony] At least not possible given the current state 604 00:27:34,417 --> 00:27:37,917 of our abilities, but give AI a million years 605 00:27:37,917 --> 00:27:41,125 of exponential machine learning, and who knows? 606 00:27:41,125 --> 00:27:43,458 Still, Kaku believes it's more likely 607 00:27:43,458 --> 00:27:46,583 that what we're really seeing is not a glitch in the matrix, 608 00:27:46,583 --> 00:27:49,042 but rather a glitch in our brains. 609 00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:51,083 - Our brain automatically assumes 610 00:27:51,083 --> 00:27:54,042 the observer is stationary, is constant, 611 00:27:54,042 --> 00:27:56,375 and reality stems from that fact. 612 00:27:56,375 --> 00:27:59,542 But if you are moving, then you begin to realize, no, 613 00:27:59,542 --> 00:28:01,875 reality as you know it is distorted. 614 00:28:01,875 --> 00:28:04,083 The trees fool you. 615 00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:07,167 If you remove the trees by putting your fingers like this, 616 00:28:07,167 --> 00:28:09,833 then everything is back to normal again. 617 00:28:09,833 --> 00:28:12,167 You begin to realize that that object in the back 618 00:28:12,167 --> 00:28:15,208 is getting larger, not smaller. 619 00:28:15,208 --> 00:28:18,833 And this is nothing but an optical illusion. 620 00:28:18,833 --> 00:28:20,833 - [Tony] Kaku says it has everything to do 621 00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:22,708 with your ability to see the horizon line, 622 00:28:22,708 --> 00:28:24,542 which, when first approaching the mill, 623 00:28:24,542 --> 00:28:26,750 is obscured by the surrounding trees. 624 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:28,708 As one drives closer to the bay, 625 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:31,083 more of the surrounding horizon is revealed, 626 00:28:31,083 --> 00:28:34,000 causing one's perception to constantly readjust 627 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,792 and give one the feeling that the mill is shrinking. 628 00:28:36,792 --> 00:28:39,792 And Primeau confirms, the proof is in the pixels. 629 00:28:39,792 --> 00:28:41,833 - When we highlight this area, 630 00:28:41,833 --> 00:28:45,125 this pixel region of width and height on the image, 631 00:28:45,125 --> 00:28:48,292 and travel using the same pixel region 632 00:28:48,292 --> 00:28:51,292 to the end of the recording where the mill is more revealed, 633 00:28:51,292 --> 00:28:54,875 there's less information around it from the landscape. 634 00:28:54,875 --> 00:28:58,167 The box actually fits in a similar size 635 00:28:58,167 --> 00:29:00,958 to what was captured originally at the beginning of the video. 636 00:29:00,958 --> 00:29:04,292 So the optical illusion that the mill is shrinking 637 00:29:04,292 --> 00:29:08,375 is from all of the information around the mill. 638 00:29:08,375 --> 00:29:10,583 (tense music) 639 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:15,500 - Our verdict, this is a size contrast optical illusion. 640 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,375 The mind is tricked about how big the building is, 641 00:29:18,375 --> 00:29:21,000 because of the comparative size of the objects 642 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,417 that surround it as the car moves closer. 643 00:29:27,875 --> 00:29:29,917 (dramatic music) 644 00:29:30,875 --> 00:29:32,542 - Since the days of King Arthur 645 00:29:32,542 --> 00:29:34,042 and the Knights of the Round Table, 646 00:29:34,042 --> 00:29:35,833 treasure hunters have been on a quest 647 00:29:35,833 --> 00:29:38,500 to find the long lost Holy Grail, 648 00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,625 but could a mysterious structure in England 649 00:29:40,625 --> 00:29:43,125 hold the secrets to its hiding place? 650 00:29:43,125 --> 00:29:44,792 See if you can crack this code. 651 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:49,000 2020, Staffordshire, England. 652 00:29:49,958 --> 00:29:52,125 Historical researcher Andrew Baker 653 00:29:52,125 --> 00:29:56,042 is visiting Shugborough Hall, a centuries old country house 654 00:29:56,042 --> 00:29:58,542 with numerous neoclassical monuments, 655 00:29:58,542 --> 00:30:00,792 but he's here to see just one. 656 00:30:00,792 --> 00:30:05,375 Framed by a pair of columns sits an enigma carved in stone, 657 00:30:05,375 --> 00:30:06,875 The Shepherd's Monument. 658 00:30:06,875 --> 00:30:08,292 - The monument stands by the river 659 00:30:08,292 --> 00:30:12,250 surrounded by trees and by dark shrubs. 660 00:30:12,250 --> 00:30:14,750 So it's eerie and mysterious. 661 00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:16,375 - [Tony] Footage of the marble relief 662 00:30:16,375 --> 00:30:19,833 shows four people gathered around a tomb that reads 663 00:30:19,833 --> 00:30:22,667 "Et In Arcadia Ego." 664 00:30:22,667 --> 00:30:25,042 Below the carb scene is a stone plaque 665 00:30:25,042 --> 00:30:30,583 bearing only the cryptic letters O-U-O-S-V-A-V-V, 666 00:30:30,583 --> 00:30:32,750 flanked by a D and an M. 667 00:30:32,750 --> 00:30:34,125 Andrew says its meaning 668 00:30:34,125 --> 00:30:36,458 is one of the most enduring puzzles in England. 669 00:30:36,458 --> 00:30:38,333 - The idea that there was something 670 00:30:38,333 --> 00:30:40,542 in England that had a coded message on it 671 00:30:40,542 --> 00:30:43,375 might be to do with secret societies treasurer, 672 00:30:43,375 --> 00:30:44,708 who knows what? 673 00:30:44,708 --> 00:30:47,958 It's as if it's been planted there for us to read today. 674 00:30:49,208 --> 00:30:51,042 - [Tony] Historians believe the Shepherd's Monument 675 00:30:51,042 --> 00:30:52,708 was commissioned by the estate's owner, 676 00:30:52,708 --> 00:30:56,667 Thomas Anson, and that it was built sometime around the 1750s. 677 00:30:56,667 --> 00:30:58,833 Beyond that, the details get murky. 678 00:30:58,833 --> 00:31:02,042 - The theory goes that Thomas Anson's brother, 679 00:31:02,042 --> 00:31:06,417 Royal Navy Admiral George Anson, circumnavigated the globe 680 00:31:06,417 --> 00:31:09,375 collecting treasure that was hidden away somewhere. 681 00:31:09,375 --> 00:31:11,542 And that the Shugborough Hall inscription 682 00:31:11,542 --> 00:31:14,667 leads to the location of that lost treasure. 683 00:31:14,667 --> 00:31:17,750 - [Tony] Yet some believe the inscription leads to treasure 684 00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:19,875 even more precious than gold. 685 00:31:19,875 --> 00:31:22,375 - Another theory goes that the Anson family 686 00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:25,958 were members of an organization known as the Priory of Sion, 687 00:31:25,958 --> 00:31:27,875 descendants of the Knight's Templar, 688 00:31:27,875 --> 00:31:30,708 who were rumored to originally be charged 689 00:31:30,708 --> 00:31:32,875 with protecting The Holy Grail. 690 00:31:32,875 --> 00:31:34,875 The Holy Grail is said to be the cup 691 00:31:34,875 --> 00:31:37,542 that was used to serve wine at the last supper, 692 00:31:37,542 --> 00:31:41,083 and collected blood from Jesus during the crucifixion. 693 00:31:41,083 --> 00:31:43,917 - [Tony] Or could the Holy Grail be something else? 694 00:31:43,917 --> 00:31:46,625 According to legend, the Priory of Sion 695 00:31:46,625 --> 00:31:48,750 claimed that Jesus Christ was an earthly, 696 00:31:48,750 --> 00:31:52,000 not a heavenly king whose bloodline traced itself 697 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,417 to ancient France's Merovingian dynasty. 698 00:31:55,417 --> 00:31:58,958 So some believe the Holy Grail is not actually a physical cup, 699 00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:01,208 but rather the Priory's secret knowledge 700 00:32:01,208 --> 00:32:03,542 that Jesus married Mary Magdalene 701 00:32:03,542 --> 00:32:05,375 and had children with her. 702 00:32:05,375 --> 00:32:08,417 One codebreaker has suggested the Shugborough inscription 703 00:32:08,417 --> 00:32:11,542 stands for "Jesus, as deity defy," 704 00:32:11,542 --> 00:32:14,375 which has been linked to these controversial beliefs. 705 00:32:16,542 --> 00:32:18,792 Many of these theories laid the groundwork 706 00:32:18,792 --> 00:32:22,875 for Dan Brown's wildly popular "Da Vinci Code" franchise. 707 00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:24,500 Professional scholars have dismissed 708 00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:26,833 many of those claims is pseudo history, 709 00:32:26,833 --> 00:32:30,250 but the idea of a secret society protecting a holy bloodline 710 00:32:30,250 --> 00:32:32,417 retains a grip on popular culture. 711 00:32:32,417 --> 00:32:34,208 So it's time to see if our experts 712 00:32:34,208 --> 00:32:36,042 can chisel out the truth. 713 00:32:36,042 --> 00:32:38,375 (tense music) 714 00:32:40,667 --> 00:32:43,708 Archeologist Dr. Ed Barnhart begins with the theory 715 00:32:43,708 --> 00:32:46,625 that George Anson collected treasures from around the world 716 00:32:46,625 --> 00:32:49,125 and that the code is a way to find them. 717 00:32:49,125 --> 00:32:52,917 - What George Anson collected in today's money 718 00:32:52,917 --> 00:32:55,292 would be millions of dollars of wealth. 719 00:32:55,292 --> 00:33:00,000 But if we look at the Shugborough Hall property, 720 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,708 and all of these amazing monuments, 721 00:33:02,708 --> 00:33:05,750 it would appear that most of George's wealth 722 00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:08,833 went into the estate itself. 723 00:33:08,833 --> 00:33:11,792 - [Tony] If Anson spent the lion's share of his fortune, 724 00:33:11,792 --> 00:33:13,000 which seems to be the case, 725 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,208 since his family fell out of prominence, 726 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,625 then maybe this isn't a literal treasure map, 727 00:33:17,625 --> 00:33:20,792 but rather a clue to how the Ansons hid the truth 728 00:33:20,792 --> 00:33:24,542 about the Holy Grail as members of the Priory of Sion. 729 00:33:24,542 --> 00:33:27,000 Catholic miracle researcher Michael O'Neill 730 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,708 says the main problem with that theory 731 00:33:28,708 --> 00:33:32,625 is this supposed secret society didn't actually exist. 732 00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:36,917 - In the 1950s, a French man named Pierre Plantard 733 00:33:36,917 --> 00:33:39,292 started this Priory of Sion 734 00:33:39,292 --> 00:33:41,250 and he attempted to draw a connection 735 00:33:41,250 --> 00:33:45,000 between that secret society and the Knights Templar. 736 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,500 Unfortunately, there was no such connection. 737 00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:51,292 And then in 1993, we see a raid of the apartment of Plantard 738 00:33:51,292 --> 00:33:53,000 where they find all these documentation 739 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,250 and letters between Plantard and his friends 740 00:33:55,250 --> 00:33:57,000 talking about their intentions 741 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,875 to perpetrate this great hoax. 742 00:33:58,875 --> 00:34:02,417 so ah the proof is in the puddin 743 00:34:02,417 --> 00:34:04,625 - [Tony] So if the Priory of Sion 744 00:34:04,625 --> 00:34:08,250 and its connection to the holy grail is completely made up, 745 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:10,875 then what does this inscription mean? 746 00:34:10,875 --> 00:34:12,708 Barnhart thinks he's found a clue. 747 00:34:12,708 --> 00:34:17,000 - The inscription itself is clearly the initials, 748 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,208 the first letters of a longer statement. 749 00:34:20,208 --> 00:34:24,375 This D and this M are typically on Roman tombs, 750 00:34:24,375 --> 00:34:26,583 and it means Dis Manibus, 751 00:34:26,583 --> 00:34:29,375 which means dedicated to the venerated dead. 752 00:34:29,375 --> 00:34:32,625 So this may be some sort of monument 753 00:34:32,625 --> 00:34:36,417 dedicated to someone who's passed away. 754 00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:39,667 (tense music) 755 00:34:39,917 --> 00:34:42,125 - For us, many unanswered questions 756 00:34:42,125 --> 00:34:44,292 about this inscription remain. 757 00:34:44,292 --> 00:34:48,250 Our verdict is that it's a memorial dedication to someone, 758 00:34:48,250 --> 00:34:50,250 though we're still not really sure who. 759 00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:52,042 We may have to accept that the message 760 00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:54,000 was meant to be kept private 761 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,792 and may stay that way forever. 762 00:35:01,125 --> 00:35:03,250 (dramatic music) 763 00:35:04,208 --> 00:35:05,958 - If a tree falls in a forest 764 00:35:05,958 --> 00:35:09,500 and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? 765 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,542 Maybe not, but what about a hundred trees? 766 00:35:12,542 --> 00:35:14,250 And what if they could have been knocked down 767 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:15,792 by a raging Bigfoot? 768 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,500 It's January 27th, 2018, 769 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:21,875 in Olympic National Park, Washington. 770 00:35:21,875 --> 00:35:22,917 During the middle of the night, 771 00:35:22,917 --> 00:35:24,750 seismic monitors pick up an event 772 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,875 that registers as a small earthquake. 773 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,500 In the morning, park rangers head out to the location 774 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,208 where the readings took place near Lake Quinalt. 775 00:35:32,208 --> 00:35:34,167 And that's where they find this. 776 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:37,708 Toppled and snapped trees litter the landscape, 777 00:35:37,708 --> 00:35:41,042 blocking the road and damaging utility lines. 778 00:35:41,042 --> 00:35:42,542 Field researcher Cliff Barackman 779 00:35:42,542 --> 00:35:46,375 says park rangers witnessed about 100 trees torn apart 780 00:35:46,375 --> 00:35:49,583 over an area that extends nearly half a mile long. 781 00:35:49,583 --> 00:35:52,708 - This example of one of the snapped trees is staggering. 782 00:35:52,708 --> 00:35:54,667 It is a very large tree. 783 00:35:54,667 --> 00:35:57,000 This trunk is probably four or five feet 784 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,750 in diameter, or more. 785 00:35:58,750 --> 00:36:01,792 Many of these splinters are literally the size 786 00:36:01,792 --> 00:36:03,708 of two by fours. 787 00:36:03,708 --> 00:36:06,542 - [Tony] This tree fall quickly became a local mystery. 788 00:36:06,542 --> 00:36:09,333 What could have caused such awesome damage? 789 00:36:09,333 --> 00:36:12,333 Of course, weather is the most obvious explanation. 790 00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:15,333 - Many believe if the circumstances here 791 00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,542 point to some sort of weather pattern. 792 00:36:17,542 --> 00:36:21,542 There are microcosms of unique weather patterns 793 00:36:21,542 --> 00:36:24,292 that are very highly destructive. 794 00:36:24,292 --> 00:36:26,292 - [Tony] Barackman notes that after these pictures 795 00:36:26,292 --> 00:36:28,875 were released, speculation heated up on the internet 796 00:36:28,875 --> 00:36:31,208 that this destruction was the work of a creature 797 00:36:31,208 --> 00:36:33,875 believed to roam the area for centuries, 798 00:36:33,875 --> 00:36:35,167 the Sasquatch. 799 00:36:35,167 --> 00:36:37,083 - Sasquatches, like all other apes, 800 00:36:37,083 --> 00:36:39,792 are known to break and twist trees. 801 00:36:39,792 --> 00:36:43,042 Why would a Sasquatch be breaking trees? 802 00:36:43,042 --> 00:36:46,708 Apes might break things to show how big and strong they are. 803 00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:49,708 - [Tony] And a Bigfoot might show how big 804 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:52,375 and strong he is to protect his territory. 805 00:36:52,375 --> 00:36:54,875 At least, that's how one story tells it. 806 00:36:54,875 --> 00:36:58,458 In 1924, gold prospectors on Mount St. Helens 807 00:36:58,458 --> 00:36:59,875 allegedly encountered a group 808 00:36:59,875 --> 00:37:02,542 of seven foot tall, ape-like creatures. 809 00:37:02,542 --> 00:37:05,417 They say they shot at the creatures, injuring one, 810 00:37:05,417 --> 00:37:07,917 but that night, they say they paid for it. 811 00:37:07,917 --> 00:37:10,917 The ape men descended on the prospectors' cabin. 812 00:37:10,917 --> 00:37:13,667 throwing boulders and ripping holes in the roof 813 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:15,042 until daybreak. 814 00:37:15,042 --> 00:37:18,708 So perhaps these territorial Bigfoots are back in action. 815 00:37:18,708 --> 00:37:20,875 But by Barackman's own admission, 816 00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:23,833 nobody has ever seen a bigfoot this angry. 817 00:37:23,833 --> 00:37:26,667 - Something like this would be unheard of. 818 00:37:29,292 --> 00:37:31,583 - Now, Olympic National Park is well known 819 00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:34,375 for strange and paranormal occurrences. 820 00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:37,792 Some say the area is haunted by the Lady of the Lake. 821 00:37:37,792 --> 00:37:40,542 The spirit of a young woman whose oddly preserved body 822 00:37:40,542 --> 00:37:43,375 was found floating in the park's Lake Crescent 823 00:37:43,375 --> 00:37:45,667 three years after she disappeared. 824 00:37:45,667 --> 00:37:48,167 Is what we're seeing here something supernatural, 825 00:37:48,167 --> 00:37:50,542 or is there a more earthly explanation? 826 00:37:50,542 --> 00:37:52,792 Let's see what our experts think. 827 00:37:52,792 --> 00:37:54,833 (tense music) 828 00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:57,875 Could this damage be the work 829 00:37:57,875 --> 00:38:00,917 of one of America's most elusive creatures? 830 00:38:00,917 --> 00:38:03,792 People are often drawn to the bigfoot theory. 831 00:38:03,792 --> 00:38:06,708 And even though anthropology and anatomy professor 832 00:38:06,708 --> 00:38:09,625 Jeff Meldrum is convinced Bigfoot exists, 833 00:38:09,625 --> 00:38:12,000 he's just as convinced these photos 834 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,917 are not proof of the creature's handiwork. 835 00:38:13,917 --> 00:38:17,917 - I do not think these trees were knocked down by Bigfoot. 836 00:38:17,917 --> 00:38:21,833 You look at behavior of animals, they're very goal-oriented. 837 00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:25,458 They don't have a surplus of calories to expend 838 00:38:25,458 --> 00:38:29,417 on frivolous activities like pushing down trees, 839 00:38:29,417 --> 00:38:32,000 even if they were capable of doing that. 840 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,250 Unless there was some motivation or some return, 841 00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:36,917 I don't think attributing this 842 00:38:36,917 --> 00:38:40,417 to Bigfoot activity would be reasonable at all. 843 00:38:40,417 --> 00:38:42,375 - [Tony] Okay, so Dr. Meldrum says 844 00:38:42,375 --> 00:38:43,917 we can rule out a Sasquatch, 845 00:38:43,917 --> 00:38:46,250 but meteorologist Juan Hernandez says 846 00:38:46,250 --> 00:38:48,500 the weather theory has its own challenges. 847 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:50,542 A microburst is typically accompanied 848 00:38:50,542 --> 00:38:52,000 by heavy thunderstorms, 849 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,042 but radar from that day shows nothing of a kind. 850 00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:57,167 - The storms were not there. 851 00:38:57,167 --> 00:39:00,500 We had what we call stratiform rain that was ongoing. 852 00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:03,500 - [Tony] Microbursts also scatter broken trees 853 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:07,208 in every direction, these trees fell in one direction. 854 00:39:07,208 --> 00:39:08,542 - That is one of the reasons 855 00:39:08,542 --> 00:39:11,708 that I believe this was not a microburst. 856 00:39:11,708 --> 00:39:14,333 - [Tony] Of course, strong winds can knock down trees 857 00:39:14,333 --> 00:39:15,875 even when there's no rain. 858 00:39:15,875 --> 00:39:17,667 But Hernandez notes that the winds 859 00:39:17,667 --> 00:39:19,958 were coming out of the south and the trees were knocked down 860 00:39:19,958 --> 00:39:22,875 in the opposite direction, so what gives? 861 00:39:22,875 --> 00:39:25,917 - Now, when we compare wind damage, 862 00:39:25,917 --> 00:39:28,125 it could potentially be two different sources. 863 00:39:28,125 --> 00:39:32,083 It could be straight line winds or it can be tornadic winds. 864 00:39:32,083 --> 00:39:35,583 When we're looking for tornado damage, a lot of the trees, 865 00:39:35,583 --> 00:39:39,542 oftentimes they fall in a criss-cross pattern. 866 00:39:39,542 --> 00:39:40,667 Here, we don't have that, 867 00:39:40,667 --> 00:39:43,083 they're all laying down in one direction. 868 00:39:43,083 --> 00:39:45,667 - [Tony] The answer, one of those quirks of science 869 00:39:45,667 --> 00:39:47,875 we love so much on this show. 870 00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:49,667 - There are specific weather patterns 871 00:39:49,667 --> 00:39:53,833 that oftentimes lead to something that is fairly common 872 00:39:53,833 --> 00:39:56,875 in mountainous terrain, and that is rotor circulations. 873 00:39:56,875 --> 00:40:00,250 - [Tony] A rotor circulation is a turbulent airflow pattern 874 00:40:00,250 --> 00:40:03,792 that occurs near mountains or large topographic features. 875 00:40:03,792 --> 00:40:06,750 As stable horizontal airflow encounters a mountain, 876 00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:09,333 it is forced to ascend on the windward side 877 00:40:09,333 --> 00:40:11,833 and descend on the leeward side. 878 00:40:11,833 --> 00:40:14,000 The interaction between the descending air 879 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,750 and the updraft creates a turbulent region 880 00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:19,542 known as the rotor, characterized by 881 00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,125 rapidly changing winds and severe turbulence. 882 00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:25,250 Hernandez says that's what knocked the trees down 883 00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:26,625 and the force of those falling trees 884 00:40:26,625 --> 00:40:28,542 was ultimately so powerful, 885 00:40:28,542 --> 00:40:31,542 that's what registered on the park's seismic monitors. 886 00:40:31,542 --> 00:40:33,375 - The conditions were ripe 887 00:40:33,375 --> 00:40:35,875 for the occurrence of a rotor circulation. 888 00:40:35,875 --> 00:40:38,583 We had a stable layer around the peak, 889 00:40:38,583 --> 00:40:41,417 meaning the wind would come up the mountain 890 00:40:41,417 --> 00:40:44,875 and quickly descend because of that stable layer on top. 891 00:40:44,875 --> 00:40:47,583 That wind was allowed to rotate in a valley 892 00:40:47,583 --> 00:40:49,542 where the damage occurred. 893 00:40:49,542 --> 00:40:52,792 It does check all the boxes for conditions 894 00:40:52,792 --> 00:40:54,417 that would promote the development 895 00:40:54,417 --> 00:40:56,667 of a rotor circulation. 896 00:40:56,667 --> 00:40:58,875 (tense music) 897 00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:03,417 - Our verdict, rotor circulation. 898 00:41:03,417 --> 00:41:06,125 Hernandez's analysis has us convinced 899 00:41:06,125 --> 00:41:08,375 that we are looking at a weather event, 900 00:41:08,375 --> 00:41:09,792 but we're still on the hunt 901 00:41:09,792 --> 00:41:11,667 for that definitive evidence of Bigfoot. 902 00:41:11,667 --> 00:41:13,750 So send us anything you have. 903 00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:16,875 And that's our show for tonight, thank you so much for watching. 904 00:41:16,875 --> 00:41:20,208 And as always, keep those cameras rolling. 905 00:41:20,208 --> 00:41:22,625 (dramatic music)