1 00:00:01,958 --> 00:00:03,542 - Tonight, on The Proof Is Out There. 2 00:00:03,542 --> 00:00:05,167 A 50-year-old UFO mystery. 3 00:00:05,167 --> 00:00:08,417 What did a teenager photograph in the Swedish sky? 4 00:00:08,417 --> 00:00:10,042 - We've never heard of an aircraft 5 00:00:10,042 --> 00:00:11,542 that can do things like this. 6 00:00:11,542 --> 00:00:14,167 - [Tony] It's not a bird, it's not a plane. 7 00:00:14,167 --> 00:00:16,833 Is it really a dinosaur out west? 8 00:00:16,833 --> 00:00:21,542 - Could a long lost species of reptile be hidden in Idaho? 9 00:00:21,542 --> 00:00:23,750 - [Tony] A southern fried horror story, 10 00:00:23,750 --> 00:00:26,917 headless goats sacrificed in a Georgia River. 11 00:00:26,917 --> 00:00:29,125 - Who is doing this and why are they doing it? 12 00:00:29,125 --> 00:00:32,667 - [Tony] And a woman bleeding from her hands and head. 13 00:00:32,667 --> 00:00:34,417 Is it a sign from God? 14 00:00:34,417 --> 00:00:37,042 - This mystical phenomena has been said to be miraculous. 15 00:00:37,042 --> 00:00:39,417 [dramatic music] 16 00:00:41,333 --> 00:00:43,292 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 17 00:00:43,292 --> 00:00:45,042 - [Witness] What are those things? 18 00:00:45,042 --> 00:00:46,417 - [Witness] It's moving. 19 00:00:46,417 --> 00:00:50,042 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 20 00:00:50,042 --> 00:00:52,125 [electric static] 21 00:00:55,083 --> 00:00:57,333 - [Kathy] We don't know where they come from, 22 00:00:57,333 --> 00:00:58,875 who made them, or how they operate. 23 00:00:58,875 --> 00:01:00,042 - [Tony] What are they? 24 00:01:00,042 --> 00:01:02,083 - [MJ] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 25 00:01:02,083 --> 00:01:03,708 - [Marc] What's exciting is nobody really knows. 26 00:01:03,708 --> 00:01:07,042 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 27 00:01:08,417 --> 00:01:10,750 - I'm Tony Harris, and as a journalist 28 00:01:10,750 --> 00:01:12,083 for more than 30 years, 29 00:01:12,083 --> 00:01:15,333 I've followed the facts where they take me. 30 00:01:15,333 --> 00:01:17,625 Now, I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 31 00:01:17,625 --> 00:01:20,708 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 32 00:01:20,708 --> 00:01:24,000 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,375 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 34 00:01:27,375 --> 00:01:29,833 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 35 00:01:29,833 --> 00:01:32,000 - This video was clearly faked. 36 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,667 - The proof starts now. 37 00:01:34,667 --> 00:01:36,833 [dramatic music] 38 00:01:41,458 --> 00:01:44,875 Good evening and welcome to The Proof Is Out There. 39 00:01:44,875 --> 00:01:47,917 When you think of Sweden, I bet the first thing 40 00:01:47,917 --> 00:01:50,208 that comes to mind isn't UFOs, 41 00:01:50,208 --> 00:01:52,250 but the country has a small 42 00:01:52,250 --> 00:01:55,042 yet intensely dedicated UFO community. 43 00:01:55,042 --> 00:01:57,833 We open tonight with one of their most enduring 44 00:01:57,833 --> 00:01:59,833 and perplexing cases. 45 00:01:59,833 --> 00:02:01,042 Ta en titt. 46 00:02:01,042 --> 00:02:03,250 That means "take a look" in Swedish. 47 00:02:03,250 --> 00:02:05,333 At least I sure hope it does. 48 00:02:06,542 --> 00:02:10,208 It's November 11th, 1973, in the rural village 49 00:02:10,208 --> 00:02:12,292 of Penttäjä, Sweden. 50 00:02:12,292 --> 00:02:16,208 14-year-old Åke Lejon is roaming the countryside 51 00:02:16,208 --> 00:02:18,375 with his niece's Instamatic camera 52 00:02:18,375 --> 00:02:21,667 when he sees a group of strange objects in the sky 53 00:02:21,667 --> 00:02:24,375 and he's able to capture one of them on film. 54 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:29,292 In a series of images, Åke captures a small black speck 55 00:02:29,292 --> 00:02:31,542 moving slowly across the sky. 56 00:02:31,542 --> 00:02:33,917 He has described it as a loaf of bread, 57 00:02:33,917 --> 00:02:36,000 but with more pronounced edges. 58 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,542 It had a dark spot on top 59 00:02:37,542 --> 00:02:39,875 and continued to turn and become flatter. 60 00:02:39,875 --> 00:02:43,208 The rest of the body, he says, had a steel gray color 61 00:02:43,208 --> 00:02:46,833 and seemingly a slight yellow glow underneath it, 62 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:48,458 and all of a sudden, 63 00:02:48,458 --> 00:02:52,458 a triangular object ejects from the loaf UFO. 64 00:02:52,458 --> 00:02:54,250 As Åke would later illustrate, 65 00:02:54,250 --> 00:02:56,500 the triangular craft flies much faster 66 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:59,333 in an arched motion underneath the loaf 67 00:02:59,333 --> 00:03:01,208 and in the opposite direction. 68 00:03:01,208 --> 00:03:03,958 Åke claims it was a silver white color 69 00:03:03,958 --> 00:03:05,667 and seemed like it was glowing. 70 00:03:05,667 --> 00:03:08,958 Author and historian Amy Teitel says Åke's incident 71 00:03:08,958 --> 00:03:11,583 wasn't as isolated as it may seem. 72 00:03:11,583 --> 00:03:14,083 - This sighting ties in with a large number 73 00:03:14,083 --> 00:03:17,000 of triangular shaped UFO sightings in Sweden 74 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,750 in the early 1970s. 75 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:21,542 In the summer of 1970, triangular phenomena 76 00:03:21,542 --> 00:03:24,375 were seen and photographed over Jämtland. 77 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:26,542 A triangular object was also seen 78 00:03:26,542 --> 00:03:30,500 and followed by a Lansen aircraft in June of 1971. 79 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:32,417 - [Tony] But out of all of these, 80 00:03:32,417 --> 00:03:35,542 Åke's sighting in particular drew special attention 81 00:03:35,542 --> 00:03:38,208 from Sweden's burgeoning UFO community. 82 00:03:38,208 --> 00:03:40,375 - Åke's case was thoroughly investigated 83 00:03:40,375 --> 00:03:42,458 by Gutenberg's Information Center 84 00:03:42,458 --> 00:03:44,375 for Unidentified Flying Objects. 85 00:03:44,375 --> 00:03:47,542 Their member magazine was known for its meticulous 86 00:03:47,542 --> 00:03:50,250 investigation of aerial phenomena. 87 00:03:50,250 --> 00:03:52,917 The investigation revealed that the negatives 88 00:03:52,917 --> 00:03:54,542 hadn't been tampered with. 89 00:03:54,542 --> 00:03:58,500 The images were authentic and the UFO was a genuine mystery. 90 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:00,250 - [Tony] In the 50 years since, 91 00:04:00,250 --> 00:04:02,542 ufologists have spent decades trying 92 00:04:02,542 --> 00:04:04,542 to figure out what Åke saw. 93 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:07,583 - Because the sighting was in such a remote location, 94 00:04:07,583 --> 00:04:09,708 it's very possible that what Åke saw 95 00:04:09,708 --> 00:04:12,917 was actually a secret military aircraft being tested. 96 00:04:12,917 --> 00:04:15,708 Other militaries have also tested their aircraft 97 00:04:15,708 --> 00:04:19,000 in the same region above the Norwegian Sea. 98 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,667 It's possible that what this is is actually a Russian aircraft. 99 00:04:22,667 --> 00:04:25,667 Åke is 14 years old when this happens, 100 00:04:25,667 --> 00:04:29,875 so it's also possible that Åke didn't understand what he saw. 101 00:04:29,875 --> 00:04:33,167 Or it's possible Åke saw something more mysterious 102 00:04:33,167 --> 00:04:34,917 and we don't know what it is. 103 00:04:36,417 --> 00:04:39,792 - What is so compelling about these blurry photos 104 00:04:39,792 --> 00:04:42,708 that we're still talking about them 50 years later? 105 00:04:42,708 --> 00:04:45,125 Let's look at the loaf of bread photos first. 106 00:04:45,125 --> 00:04:47,042 Each one is a bit different. 107 00:04:47,042 --> 00:04:50,083 The lighting is different, the coloring is different. 108 00:04:50,083 --> 00:04:53,375 You'd expect to see some of that in a moving object. 109 00:04:53,375 --> 00:04:56,208 And then there's the triangle image here. 110 00:04:56,208 --> 00:05:00,000 Much harder edges, more aerodynamic, 111 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,542 almost more menacing. 112 00:05:01,542 --> 00:05:05,375 Let's see how our experts take on this 50 year mystery. 113 00:05:05,375 --> 00:05:07,750 [tense music] 114 00:05:09,208 --> 00:05:10,875 First, we asked Rich Hoffman 115 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:13,417 of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies 116 00:05:13,417 --> 00:05:15,583 if Åke could have stumbled upon a remote test 117 00:05:15,583 --> 00:05:17,833 by a secret military aircraft. 118 00:05:17,833 --> 00:05:20,833 He's uncertain if we're looking at a human aircraft at all. 119 00:05:20,833 --> 00:05:24,583 - You can't really make out any kind of propulsion. 120 00:05:24,583 --> 00:05:27,583 No engines, no nothing that's keeping it up in the air. 121 00:05:27,583 --> 00:05:30,500 It's the lack of clarity on the actual photos 122 00:05:30,500 --> 00:05:33,792 that makes it very hard for us to determine anything about it. 123 00:05:33,792 --> 00:05:35,417 - [Tony] One thing that could add clarity 124 00:05:35,417 --> 00:05:37,583 to the grainy photos is this collection 125 00:05:37,583 --> 00:05:39,792 of sketches from the witness himself. 126 00:05:39,792 --> 00:05:42,583 Some have pointed out that the triangular silhouette 127 00:05:42,583 --> 00:05:44,917 and the triangle craft he drew 128 00:05:44,917 --> 00:05:47,875 both resembled the Saab 37 Viggen jet, 129 00:05:47,875 --> 00:05:51,625 a Swedish combat aircraft developed in the 1960s. 130 00:05:51,625 --> 00:05:53,875 - And that could have explained this 131 00:05:53,875 --> 00:05:55,958 triangular shaped object if they were 132 00:05:55,958 --> 00:05:57,875 flying around in that area. 133 00:05:57,875 --> 00:06:00,583 That was very much a double delta winged aircraft, 134 00:06:00,583 --> 00:06:02,125 very much like this. 135 00:06:02,125 --> 00:06:05,125 - [Tony] But that wouldn't explain the object's ability 136 00:06:05,125 --> 00:06:06,792 to morph into different shapes, 137 00:06:06,792 --> 00:06:10,042 as shown by both Åke's drawings and photos. 138 00:06:10,042 --> 00:06:13,750 Could we be looking at a speck of dust inside the camera? 139 00:06:13,750 --> 00:06:15,542 Well, those would create the same 140 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:17,250 shape of artifact on each photo, 141 00:06:17,250 --> 00:06:20,875 and in these images, the object is clearly changing shape. 142 00:06:20,875 --> 00:06:23,167 So maybe the speck was something like a gnat 143 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:26,792 that was so close to the camera that it appeared out of focus. 144 00:06:26,792 --> 00:06:29,625 But our photo expert, Andrew McCarthy, doesn't think so. 145 00:06:29,625 --> 00:06:31,708 - Åke was using an Instamatic, 146 00:06:31,708 --> 00:06:33,542 which was a very popular point and shoot 147 00:06:33,542 --> 00:06:35,083 film camera at the time. 148 00:06:35,083 --> 00:06:38,042 This point and shoot camera had a very small aperture lens. 149 00:06:38,042 --> 00:06:40,042 It was designed to be able to shoot at infinity 150 00:06:40,042 --> 00:06:43,292 easily without requiring any kind of manual focus. 151 00:06:43,292 --> 00:06:44,750 If this object is more out of focus, 152 00:06:44,750 --> 00:06:47,583 it'd be more transparent and have less contrast. 153 00:06:47,583 --> 00:06:50,792 So since this is as dark and as defined as it is, 154 00:06:50,792 --> 00:06:52,792 we know that any blur that we're seeing from this object 155 00:06:52,792 --> 00:06:55,583 is most likely caused by motion blur. 156 00:06:55,583 --> 00:06:57,875 - [Tony] So what could we possibly be seeing? 157 00:06:57,875 --> 00:07:00,042 - While I don't think these photos are a hoax, 158 00:07:00,042 --> 00:07:02,667 there is no plausible explanation for them. 159 00:07:02,667 --> 00:07:05,458 We have no explanation for why this loaf shaped UFO 160 00:07:05,458 --> 00:07:06,917 just hovered for a few minutes 161 00:07:06,917 --> 00:07:10,542 and why this triangular shaped UFO was ejected from it. 162 00:07:10,542 --> 00:07:12,583 There's just not enough information in this story 163 00:07:12,583 --> 00:07:14,167 to make a conclusion. 164 00:07:14,167 --> 00:07:16,583 This photo is a true UFO. 165 00:07:17,458 --> 00:07:19,750 [tense music] 166 00:07:21,458 --> 00:07:22,750 - Our verdict? 167 00:07:22,750 --> 00:07:25,417 We're calling this a genuine UFO. 168 00:07:25,417 --> 00:07:27,792 The journalist who documented Åke's sighting 169 00:07:27,792 --> 00:07:30,625 concluded there was no reason to doubt his information. 170 00:07:30,625 --> 00:07:33,375 He left it to his readers to decide 171 00:07:33,375 --> 00:07:35,958 and we leave it to you, the viewers. 172 00:07:38,042 --> 00:07:42,333 Now we pivot, from an old UFO to a new UFA, 173 00:07:42,333 --> 00:07:45,042 an unidentified flying animal. 174 00:07:45,042 --> 00:07:47,375 The fossil records show that at least 175 00:07:47,375 --> 00:07:49,458 six different dinosaurs lived in Idaho 176 00:07:49,458 --> 00:07:50,833 millions of years ago, 177 00:07:50,833 --> 00:07:53,708 and this video suggests that one creature 178 00:07:53,708 --> 00:07:57,500 from the Cretaceous age might still be living there today. 179 00:07:58,458 --> 00:08:00,625 September 4th, 2015. 180 00:08:00,625 --> 00:08:02,042 Boise, Idaho. 181 00:08:02,042 --> 00:08:04,875 A pedestrian is walking on a crisp gray day 182 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:07,208 when they notice something alarming overhead 183 00:08:07,208 --> 00:08:09,542 and record this. 184 00:08:09,542 --> 00:08:11,708 A large pterodactyl like creature 185 00:08:11,708 --> 00:08:14,583 with a massive wingspan glides overhead. 186 00:08:14,583 --> 00:08:17,542 The wings pull back then flap several times 187 00:08:17,542 --> 00:08:20,125 before the animal soars out of view. 188 00:08:20,125 --> 00:08:21,625 Let's watch that again. 189 00:08:21,625 --> 00:08:23,875 There's a notable triangle shaped face 190 00:08:23,875 --> 00:08:26,250 leading to a point on the back of the skull. 191 00:08:26,250 --> 00:08:27,750 And beyond the massive wings, 192 00:08:27,750 --> 00:08:29,792 there appear to be two legs. 193 00:08:29,792 --> 00:08:32,042 We can clearly see the brownish skin 194 00:08:32,042 --> 00:08:35,458 as the creature dives then glides past the trees. 195 00:08:35,458 --> 00:08:38,958 Field researcher Ken Gerhard is excited to see such footage. 196 00:08:38,958 --> 00:08:41,708 - So this clip is really near and dear to my heart 197 00:08:41,708 --> 00:08:44,958 because for decades I have been actively researching 198 00:08:44,958 --> 00:08:48,917 accounts of living pterosaurs or pterodactyls. 199 00:08:48,917 --> 00:08:51,542 I've interviewed dozens of people that swear 200 00:08:51,542 --> 00:08:54,333 that they've seen these giant flying reptiles, 201 00:08:54,333 --> 00:08:55,708 not birds. 202 00:08:55,708 --> 00:08:58,292 - [Tony] The pterosaurs, who supposedly went extinct 203 00:08:58,292 --> 00:08:59,625 65 million years ago, 204 00:08:59,625 --> 00:09:02,667 were neither bird nor dinosaur. 205 00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:05,208 - 70 million years before birds came on the scene, 206 00:09:05,208 --> 00:09:08,458 the first flying vertebrates were the pterosaurs. 207 00:09:08,458 --> 00:09:11,000 And they were a highly specialized form 208 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,542 of flying reptiles. 209 00:09:12,542 --> 00:09:14,958 They evolved into these massive pterodactyls 210 00:09:14,958 --> 00:09:17,667 with wingspans up to 36 feet long, 211 00:09:17,667 --> 00:09:21,042 making them the largest flying animals ever. 212 00:09:21,042 --> 00:09:22,875 - [Tony] Pterosaur fossils have been found 213 00:09:22,875 --> 00:09:25,375 on every continent including Antarctica. 214 00:09:25,375 --> 00:09:29,125 But how the heck could one be flying around Idaho today? 215 00:09:29,125 --> 00:09:31,708 Gerhardt is reminded of another sighting, 216 00:09:31,708 --> 00:09:35,375 one that became famous in the days of the Wild West. 217 00:09:35,375 --> 00:09:37,875 - There's a famous story from 1890. 218 00:09:37,875 --> 00:09:41,208 Cowboys riding in the Whetstone Mountains 219 00:09:41,208 --> 00:09:42,875 sighted this giant creature. 220 00:09:42,875 --> 00:09:44,458 They'd supposedly shoot this thing 221 00:09:44,458 --> 00:09:46,375 with their rifles and kill it, 222 00:09:46,375 --> 00:09:48,125 and they brought it back to town. 223 00:09:48,125 --> 00:09:50,042 There was a photograph which appeared 224 00:09:50,042 --> 00:09:53,375 in the Tombstone Arizona Epitaph newspaper, 225 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:57,375 and this photograph purportedly shows something 226 00:09:57,375 --> 00:09:59,125 that looks exactly like this animal. 227 00:09:59,125 --> 00:10:01,417 What's really strange though is that the photograph 228 00:10:01,417 --> 00:10:03,542 seems to have disappeared. 229 00:10:03,542 --> 00:10:04,958 - [Tony] While hundreds of people claim 230 00:10:04,958 --> 00:10:06,958 to remember seeing this photo, 231 00:10:06,958 --> 00:10:09,833 there's still no physical evidence of it to this day. 232 00:10:09,833 --> 00:10:13,708 However, a number of strange photos featuring cowboys 233 00:10:13,708 --> 00:10:16,708 and winged creatures have surfaced over the years. 234 00:10:16,708 --> 00:10:20,583 Although most, like this one, were easily proven fake. 235 00:10:20,583 --> 00:10:24,042 - If the famous Tombstone photograph does exist, 236 00:10:24,042 --> 00:10:26,458 it actually does prove that these animals 237 00:10:26,458 --> 00:10:28,250 did survive in the modern times. 238 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:30,917 - [Tony] Gerhardt points to another possible theory, 239 00:10:30,917 --> 00:10:34,417 not from the Old West, but from a dystopian future. 240 00:10:34,417 --> 00:10:35,708 - There are some people that have 241 00:10:35,708 --> 00:10:38,375 actually tried to construct drones 242 00:10:38,375 --> 00:10:40,792 that have a very organic appearance, 243 00:10:40,792 --> 00:10:43,208 resembling birds or other animals. 244 00:10:43,208 --> 00:10:46,375 In fact, technicians at New Mexico State University 245 00:10:46,375 --> 00:10:48,292 have been actively working to build 246 00:10:48,292 --> 00:10:50,083 what's called an ornithopter, 247 00:10:50,083 --> 00:10:53,000 which is essentially a mechanical flying device 248 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,083 which utilizes wings like birds and pterosaurs 249 00:10:56,083 --> 00:10:57,458 and other animals. 250 00:10:57,458 --> 00:10:59,167 - [Tony] These ornithopters are using 251 00:10:59,167 --> 00:11:02,708 actual bird carcasses for the casings of their machines 252 00:11:02,708 --> 00:11:05,708 as a way to blend in and monitor wildlife. 253 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:07,708 Could we be looking at similar tech? 254 00:11:07,708 --> 00:11:09,625 - I think we can't discount the possibility 255 00:11:09,625 --> 00:11:12,292 that this is in fact a modified 256 00:11:12,292 --> 00:11:14,625 and actually a very cool looking drone. 257 00:11:15,625 --> 00:11:17,750 - Idaho isn't the only place 258 00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:20,083 where sightings like this have been reported. 259 00:11:20,083 --> 00:11:22,583 In a prior season, we investigated a supposed 260 00:11:22,583 --> 00:11:24,542 raptor running around Florida, 261 00:11:24,542 --> 00:11:27,833 and a living pterosaur has allegedly been seen 262 00:11:27,833 --> 00:11:30,917 flying above Papua New Guinea and its surrounding islands. 263 00:11:30,917 --> 00:11:32,958 As for this Idaho footage, 264 00:11:32,958 --> 00:11:37,458 let's let our experts swoop in and do their thing. 265 00:11:37,458 --> 00:11:39,708 [tense music] 266 00:11:40,708 --> 00:11:43,083 Wildlife biologist Stephanie Manka 267 00:11:43,083 --> 00:11:45,125 is skeptical that what we're seeing here 268 00:11:45,125 --> 00:11:47,792 is a 65 million year old creature. 269 00:11:47,792 --> 00:11:50,708 - If a creature this large were able to survive, 270 00:11:50,708 --> 00:11:53,250 it would need prey to survive on, 271 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:56,042 like cows or calves, sheep or goats. 272 00:11:56,042 --> 00:12:00,000 Because it would need to hunt for food across a large area, 273 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,375 it would most likely be seen by humans 274 00:12:02,375 --> 00:12:04,875 before this one video. 275 00:12:04,875 --> 00:12:07,625 - [Tony] Manka also suggests that some of these 276 00:12:07,625 --> 00:12:10,542 creatures movements are anything but organic. 277 00:12:10,542 --> 00:12:13,250 - So here it looks like this pterosaur 278 00:12:13,250 --> 00:12:16,208 is going to dive down, 279 00:12:16,208 --> 00:12:19,625 but then it lifts its head back again 280 00:12:19,625 --> 00:12:23,625 without really being able to recover. 281 00:12:23,625 --> 00:12:26,292 It would need more distance from the ground 282 00:12:26,292 --> 00:12:27,917 to go back up again. 283 00:12:27,917 --> 00:12:30,458 They're not able to defy gravity, 284 00:12:30,458 --> 00:12:33,750 and it definitely makes me question if this is real. 285 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:36,583 - [Tony] So could this be a taxidermied drone, 286 00:12:36,583 --> 00:12:40,250 like the ones being created at New Mexico State University? 287 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:43,458 - The idea of using real birds as drones is enthralling, 288 00:12:43,458 --> 00:12:47,708 but although birds do have a hinge right here, 289 00:12:47,708 --> 00:12:51,083 their wings don't bend upwards like that. 290 00:12:51,083 --> 00:12:55,708 That would be like me being able to bend my elbow backwards. 291 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:58,375 This is not anatomically correct. 292 00:12:58,375 --> 00:13:03,083 This isn't a drone and a taxidermied bird. 293 00:13:03,083 --> 00:13:04,375 - [Tony] Our next stop was to see 294 00:13:04,375 --> 00:13:07,000 what video forensic analyst Michael Primeau 295 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,292 could tell us about this aerial enigma. 296 00:13:09,292 --> 00:13:11,042 - A software program created this file, 297 00:13:11,042 --> 00:13:12,958 not a digital video camera. 298 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:14,750 This video definitely appears to be processed. 299 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:17,125 There's no direct source of light 300 00:13:17,125 --> 00:13:20,667 that in theory would produce these tonal values 301 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:22,042 underneath the wings. 302 00:13:22,042 --> 00:13:24,125 So that would be more of an indication 303 00:13:24,125 --> 00:13:27,042 that something was changed on the underside of those wings. 304 00:13:27,042 --> 00:13:29,000 - [Tony] Although Primeau thinks this is a fake, 305 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,417 even he has to admit it's a pretty impressive one. 306 00:13:32,417 --> 00:13:34,708 - The metadata and structural analysis doesn't give us 307 00:13:34,708 --> 00:13:37,667 any kinda indication as to what program may have done this 308 00:13:37,667 --> 00:13:39,000 or how it was done. 309 00:13:39,167 --> 00:13:41,875 This could very well be one of the best CGI videos 310 00:13:41,875 --> 00:13:43,417 that I have ever analyzed. 311 00:13:44,667 --> 00:13:47,000 [tense music] 312 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,583 - Our verdict, based on Manka's observations 313 00:13:49,583 --> 00:13:51,167 and Primeau's video analysis, 314 00:13:51,167 --> 00:13:53,083 we're calling this a hoax. 315 00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:55,708 But be warned, now that AI has entered 316 00:13:55,708 --> 00:13:57,833 the field of photo manipulation, 317 00:13:57,833 --> 00:14:00,583 generating fakes like this will soon be as easy 318 00:14:00,583 --> 00:14:02,375 as typing a sentence. 319 00:14:02,375 --> 00:14:06,417 We'll do our best to stay one step ahead of the charlatans. 320 00:14:10,875 --> 00:14:13,292 - Our next story is a strange one, 321 00:14:13,292 --> 00:14:16,458 and it includes graphic images of mutilated animals 322 00:14:16,458 --> 00:14:18,417 some might find disturbing. 323 00:14:18,417 --> 00:14:20,625 Viewer discretion is certainly advised, 324 00:14:20,625 --> 00:14:23,500 but viewer attention is encouraged. 325 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:24,250 2018. 326 00:14:24,417 --> 00:14:26,208 We are in my home state of Georgia 327 00:14:26,208 --> 00:14:28,875 in the town of Austell, just outside Atlanta. 328 00:14:28,875 --> 00:14:30,875 This is the area where the Chattahoochee River 329 00:14:30,875 --> 00:14:33,167 runs underneath the I-20 Interstate. 330 00:14:33,167 --> 00:14:36,042 Jason Ulseth, the Chattahoochee River keeper, 331 00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:38,708 documents anything that doesn't belong here. 332 00:14:38,708 --> 00:14:41,125 This certainly qualifies. 333 00:14:41,125 --> 00:14:44,167 There's not one, not two, not three, 334 00:14:44,167 --> 00:14:47,542 but many, many dead goats floating downstream 335 00:14:47,542 --> 00:14:49,167 or washed up on riverbeds. 336 00:14:49,167 --> 00:14:51,167 And take a closer look, if you can. 337 00:14:51,167 --> 00:14:54,083 They're all missing their heads. 338 00:14:54,083 --> 00:14:57,458 - This was something that was clearly decapitated 339 00:14:57,458 --> 00:14:59,250 and then purposely put in the Chattahoochee, 340 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:01,708 which we've never ever seen that before. 341 00:15:01,708 --> 00:15:03,250 Knowing that somebody had brutally 342 00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:05,875 cut the head off of this animal and purposely 343 00:15:05,875 --> 00:15:08,375 dumped it in the river is pretty unsettling. 344 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:10,083 - [Tony] And this wasn't a one-time thing. 345 00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:12,083 It's become a nearly daily occurrence. 346 00:15:12,083 --> 00:15:13,792 - [Jason] Now, I've seen it thousands 347 00:15:13,792 --> 00:15:15,333 and thousands of times. 348 00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:17,375 I mean, I see so many of 'em, I don't even slow the boat down. 349 00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:19,042 - [Tony] Anthropologist Kathy Strain 350 00:15:19,042 --> 00:15:21,750 says some suggested a large local predator 351 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:23,292 could be to blame. 352 00:15:23,292 --> 00:15:28,042 - In 2019, a 13 foot alligator was found near Atlanta. 353 00:15:28,042 --> 00:15:31,000 It was so large that people thought it was a hoax, 354 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,542 but after the Georgia Department of Natural Resources 355 00:15:33,542 --> 00:15:37,042 came in, they verified that it was a real alligator. 356 00:15:37,042 --> 00:15:39,958 It's very likely that if a goat was there on the shoreline 357 00:15:39,958 --> 00:15:42,250 and they were hungry, they would clearly go for it. 358 00:15:42,250 --> 00:15:44,750 - [Tony] Others on the internet are reminded 359 00:15:44,750 --> 00:15:46,875 of other similar livestock mutilations, 360 00:15:46,875 --> 00:15:50,000 an alleged hallmark of alien activity. 361 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,667 - In 2016 in Brazelton, which is near Atlanta, 362 00:15:53,667 --> 00:15:55,042 cows were found bloodless, 363 00:15:55,042 --> 00:15:57,083 but they had these neat little circles 364 00:15:57,083 --> 00:15:59,417 carved into their rear ends. 365 00:15:59,417 --> 00:16:02,458 Usually aliens are the ones that are blamed for this. 366 00:16:02,458 --> 00:16:05,833 That might explain what it is that we are seeing here. 367 00:16:05,833 --> 00:16:08,125 - [Tony] Journalist MJ Banias discusses 368 00:16:08,125 --> 00:16:10,042 another theory circulating the web 369 00:16:10,042 --> 00:16:11,917 about who could be responsible, 370 00:16:11,917 --> 00:16:14,292 practitioners of Santería. 371 00:16:14,292 --> 00:16:17,000 - Santería originates in the Afro-Caribbean, 372 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,708 Latin American part of the world 373 00:16:18,708 --> 00:16:22,125 and essentially involves the sacrifice of animals 374 00:16:22,125 --> 00:16:23,958 for various mystical reasons, 375 00:16:23,958 --> 00:16:26,042 like bringing good luck. 376 00:16:26,042 --> 00:16:29,083 - [Tony] Down in Florida, similar incidents 377 00:16:29,083 --> 00:16:32,333 have occurred wherein supposed practitioners of Santería 378 00:16:32,333 --> 00:16:35,250 left the remnants of sacrificed animals 379 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:37,542 along railroad tracks for good luck. 380 00:16:37,542 --> 00:16:40,417 - Whoever is doing this needs a significant amount of luck 381 00:16:40,417 --> 00:16:42,542 if they have to sacrifice this many goats. 382 00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:46,583 So who would have the ability to fund the purchase 383 00:16:46,583 --> 00:16:48,042 or theft of these goats? 384 00:16:48,042 --> 00:16:50,833 A lot of local press and a lot of investigators 385 00:16:50,833 --> 00:16:52,917 have pointed to potential drug cartels 386 00:16:52,917 --> 00:16:55,292 that are engaging in this practice. 387 00:16:55,292 --> 00:16:58,875 It's no secret that Pablo Escobar would run drugs 388 00:16:58,875 --> 00:17:01,292 from Miami, Florida into Atlanta, Georgia. 389 00:17:01,292 --> 00:17:04,000 So if there are drug cartels vying 390 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,917 for territorial dominance, 391 00:17:05,917 --> 00:17:07,375 any little bit of luck can help. 392 00:17:09,917 --> 00:17:12,708 - Whatever is going on, it needs to stop. 393 00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:15,625 This river is drinking water for 5 million people. 394 00:17:15,625 --> 00:17:18,542 The water is much less polluted than it used to be, 395 00:17:18,542 --> 00:17:21,250 thanks in part to the river keepers organization. 396 00:17:21,250 --> 00:17:23,917 But this has the potential to turn things back around, 397 00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,167 both environmentally and socially. 398 00:17:26,167 --> 00:17:28,167 No one wants to see a headless goat 399 00:17:28,167 --> 00:17:30,125 while they're paddling down the river. 400 00:17:30,125 --> 00:17:32,208 Let's see if our experts have any ideas. 401 00:17:32,208 --> 00:17:34,417 [tense music] 402 00:17:35,667 --> 00:17:38,500 First, wildlife biologist Stephanie Manka 403 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:41,667 considers if this could be the work of a killer alligator. 404 00:17:41,667 --> 00:17:42,958 - From the way these goats look, 405 00:17:42,958 --> 00:17:45,708 it doesn't really look like they're taken by a predator. 406 00:17:45,708 --> 00:17:48,417 It just seems like the head has been cut off. 407 00:17:48,417 --> 00:17:51,833 It doesn't seem like it's been ripped or torn. 408 00:17:51,833 --> 00:17:53,792 Also, if it were an alligator, 409 00:17:53,792 --> 00:17:56,833 I would expect there to be tears across the body, 410 00:17:56,833 --> 00:17:59,083 like tearing from pulling the fur 411 00:17:59,083 --> 00:18:01,542 as it tried to consume the animal. 412 00:18:01,542 --> 00:18:05,167 And why would a predator only take their heads? 413 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:07,125 - [Tony] So if it's not a gator, 414 00:18:07,125 --> 00:18:10,375 could alien activity explain these creepy corpses? 415 00:18:10,375 --> 00:18:12,500 - I have a hard time believing 416 00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:15,208 that this was caused by aliens. 417 00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:17,250 It doesn't seem like there was any 418 00:18:17,250 --> 00:18:20,083 sort of advanced technology or lasers 419 00:18:20,083 --> 00:18:22,167 to make a precise cut. 420 00:18:22,167 --> 00:18:24,375 To me this cut looks like it could have been 421 00:18:24,375 --> 00:18:27,042 easily done by a human with a knife. 422 00:18:27,042 --> 00:18:29,208 The heads were almost, like, hacked away. 423 00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:31,208 - [Tony] As for Santería, 424 00:18:31,208 --> 00:18:33,708 we consulted with professor of social ethics, 425 00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:35,208 Miguel De La Torre, 426 00:18:35,208 --> 00:18:37,542 whose parents were practitioners of Santería. 427 00:18:37,542 --> 00:18:41,417 - This, I don't believe is part of a traditional way 428 00:18:41,417 --> 00:18:44,333 of sacrificing animals in Santería. 429 00:18:44,333 --> 00:18:46,958 Whoever was doing this really didn't know 430 00:18:46,958 --> 00:18:48,417 what they were doing. 431 00:18:48,417 --> 00:18:52,333 It's not really the way the religion operates. 432 00:18:52,333 --> 00:18:55,000 You may do a sacrifice once in your life 433 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,417 when you have a specific problem, 434 00:18:57,417 --> 00:18:59,375 but you shouldn't be killing a goat 435 00:18:59,375 --> 00:19:01,458 a couple of times a week. 436 00:19:01,458 --> 00:19:03,417 - [Tony] De La Torre says these headless goats 437 00:19:03,417 --> 00:19:06,417 are just the latest in a long line of animal mutilations 438 00:19:06,417 --> 00:19:09,417 mistakenly blamed on Santería culture. 439 00:19:09,417 --> 00:19:14,208 - You see movies that stereotype an entire Caribbean people 440 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:17,167 as being less than, when in fact, 441 00:19:17,167 --> 00:19:19,000 this is a religious tradition 442 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,208 that have lasted for centuries. 443 00:19:21,208 --> 00:19:24,250 This has nothing to do with Santería at all. 444 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,542 I have no idea what it could be. 445 00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:28,542 [tense music] 446 00:19:30,333 --> 00:19:33,458 - Our verdict, unexplained animal slaughter. 447 00:19:34,083 --> 00:19:34,833 We're not totally sure why these goats 448 00:19:35,125 --> 00:19:35,958 We're not totally sure why these goats 449 00:19:36,208 --> 00:19:38,083 keep ending up headless in the river, 450 00:19:38,083 --> 00:19:40,000 but we agree with our experts 451 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,958 that these cuts appear to be performed 452 00:19:41,958 --> 00:19:44,250 by some untrained human hand. 453 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:47,917 Whatever's going on, we can only pray it stops. 454 00:19:53,083 --> 00:19:55,833 - We've never done a story on stigmata, 455 00:19:55,833 --> 00:19:57,625 the alleged appearance of wounds 456 00:19:57,625 --> 00:20:00,458 on the bodies of devout Christians that correspond 457 00:20:00,458 --> 00:20:03,167 to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ. 458 00:20:03,167 --> 00:20:05,542 While the phenomenon has been a central part 459 00:20:05,542 --> 00:20:07,583 of Christian mysticism for centuries, 460 00:20:07,583 --> 00:20:11,875 we just never saw any footage of it worth investigating. 461 00:20:11,875 --> 00:20:13,375 Until now. 462 00:20:13,375 --> 00:20:16,500 It's 1987 in a suburb of Damascus, Syria, 463 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:19,375 23-year-old Myrna Nazzour is experiencing 464 00:20:19,375 --> 00:20:21,042 a strange affliction. 465 00:20:21,042 --> 00:20:22,375 If you're squeamish about blood, 466 00:20:22,375 --> 00:20:25,375 you might want to cover your eyes. 467 00:20:25,375 --> 00:20:28,083 With the cameras rolling, Myrna lies in bed 468 00:20:28,083 --> 00:20:30,583 as blood pours out in a cross shape 469 00:20:30,583 --> 00:20:33,042 across her forehead and down her nose. 470 00:20:33,042 --> 00:20:37,042 There are also painful bloody cuts on the palms of her hands 471 00:20:37,042 --> 00:20:38,708 and the tops of her feet. 472 00:20:38,708 --> 00:20:42,708 Myrna says these mysterious marks first appeared in 1983 473 00:20:42,708 --> 00:20:45,333 when she was 19 years old and a new bride. 474 00:20:59,333 --> 00:21:01,625 - [Tony] Myrna says that after this first incident, 475 00:21:01,625 --> 00:21:04,000 these strange wounds appeared again 476 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 on the next four Holy Thursdays, 477 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,208 when the Orthodox and Catholic Easters lined up, 478 00:21:09,208 --> 00:21:11,875 each time lasting for only about three hours. 479 00:21:27,583 --> 00:21:29,792 - [Tony] Author Alexis Brooks says many believe 480 00:21:29,792 --> 00:21:32,542 that what Myrna has experienced over the years 481 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:34,917 is an example of stigmata. 482 00:21:34,917 --> 00:21:38,792 - The term stigmata basically is a process 483 00:21:38,792 --> 00:21:44,583 in which individuals can exude blood from their hands, 484 00:21:44,583 --> 00:21:47,542 the crown of their head or forehead. 485 00:21:47,542 --> 00:21:49,500 - [Tony] These wounds correspond with the wounds 486 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:52,000 Christ received from being nailed to the cross 487 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,375 by his hands and feet, 488 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:56,208 and being forced to wear a crown of thorns on his head, 489 00:21:56,208 --> 00:21:57,708 according to the Bible. 490 00:21:57,708 --> 00:22:00,125 The phenomenon has been noted throughout history. 491 00:22:00,125 --> 00:22:04,292 - Probably one of the most famous is St. Francis of Assisi, 492 00:22:04,292 --> 00:22:06,083 who was said to exude blood 493 00:22:06,083 --> 00:22:08,500 from the palms of his hands as well. 494 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:10,375 - [Tony] A more recent reported case 495 00:22:10,375 --> 00:22:12,708 is from the 20th century in Italy. 496 00:22:12,708 --> 00:22:16,417 - In 1918, an Italian priest by the name of Padre Pio 497 00:22:16,417 --> 00:22:20,042 was said to have blood emerge from his hands and feet. 498 00:22:20,042 --> 00:22:23,250 Interestingly, it's said that the blood that emerged 499 00:22:23,250 --> 00:22:25,792 from his hands smelled of roses. 500 00:22:25,792 --> 00:22:28,833 The smell of roses is the odor of sanctity. 501 00:22:30,542 --> 00:22:33,250 - As the debate continues on the miraculous 502 00:22:33,250 --> 00:22:35,000 nature of these events, 503 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,917 the Vatican has announced a new dedicated commission 504 00:22:37,917 --> 00:22:41,458 that will investigate mystical phenomena around the world. 505 00:22:41,458 --> 00:22:43,875 The center will look into weeping statues 506 00:22:43,875 --> 00:22:47,833 of the Virgin Mary, stigmata, and other apparitions. 507 00:22:47,833 --> 00:22:50,375 For now, let's see what our experts conclude 508 00:22:50,375 --> 00:22:52,500 about Myrna's recurring wounds. 509 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:54,750 [tense music] 510 00:22:55,917 --> 00:22:59,292 First, Dr. Ed Hope considers if Myrna's condition 511 00:22:59,292 --> 00:23:00,708 could be psychosomatic. 512 00:23:00,708 --> 00:23:03,208 - Psychosomatic medicine deals with medicine 513 00:23:03,208 --> 00:23:04,792 where the symptoms turn out to be 514 00:23:04,792 --> 00:23:06,708 to do with something psychological. 515 00:23:06,708 --> 00:23:10,417 It certainly could cause the symptoms of pain, 516 00:23:10,417 --> 00:23:14,125 but what it's not gonna cause is this bleeding here. 517 00:23:14,125 --> 00:23:16,625 That would not be possible just from 518 00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,833 a psychological problem. 519 00:23:18,833 --> 00:23:20,875 - [Tony] So since her condition is clearly physical, 520 00:23:20,875 --> 00:23:23,875 could Myrna be suffering from a rare medical condition? 521 00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:26,333 - One disease that can cause blood 522 00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:30,125 to come out of nowhere is hematohidrosis, 523 00:23:30,125 --> 00:23:33,875 which basically means blood coming from the sweat glands. 524 00:23:33,875 --> 00:23:36,875 The tiny blood vessels around the sweat ducts 525 00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:39,292 end up breaking open and the blood ends up 526 00:23:39,292 --> 00:23:41,458 coming out on the surface of the skin. 527 00:23:41,458 --> 00:23:43,417 I don't think it's what's going on here 528 00:23:43,417 --> 00:23:45,958 because we can see a direct area 529 00:23:45,958 --> 00:23:49,500 that the blood's coming from rather than a diffused area 530 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,042 that you'd get if you are bleeding from your sweat. 531 00:23:52,042 --> 00:23:54,542 - [Tony] So since Myrna has visible wounds, 532 00:23:54,542 --> 00:23:57,208 is it possible they were self-inflicted? 533 00:23:57,208 --> 00:23:59,500 - We have to think of the possibility 534 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:02,875 of a factitious disorder imposed on oneself. 535 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:06,042 This is where people feign medical conditions 536 00:24:06,042 --> 00:24:10,250 in order to get the intention of medical professionals 537 00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:11,750 and medical care. 538 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:15,500 - Hope says that can be pulled off using carbolic acid. 539 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,292 - There's a highly caustic and corrosive substance 540 00:24:18,292 --> 00:24:21,542 that would burn the skin and cause death of the skin tissue. 541 00:24:21,542 --> 00:24:24,208 - [Tony] And Dr. Hope sees some notable differences 542 00:24:24,208 --> 00:24:27,708 between Myrna's wounds and those of Christ on the cross. 543 00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:29,500 - When we really think about 544 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:31,625 what Jesus would've actually experienced, 545 00:24:31,625 --> 00:24:33,458 it would've been a puncture wound. 546 00:24:33,458 --> 00:24:36,042 He had nails driven through his hands 547 00:24:36,042 --> 00:24:39,542 rather than this very thin laceration here, 548 00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:41,625 which looks like it's been created 549 00:24:41,625 --> 00:24:43,875 by a very small and sharp blade. 550 00:24:43,875 --> 00:24:46,542 And this practice actually happens in pro wrestling, 551 00:24:46,542 --> 00:24:48,375 called blading or juicing, 552 00:24:48,375 --> 00:24:52,167 where they create very fine nicks using concealed blades 553 00:24:52,167 --> 00:24:54,125 that create a large blood flow. 554 00:24:54,125 --> 00:24:55,667 - [Tony] But Catholic miracle researcher 555 00:24:55,667 --> 00:24:58,375 Michael O'Neill points out that all the evidence 556 00:24:58,375 --> 00:25:00,250 is caught on camera. 557 00:25:00,250 --> 00:25:03,583 - Because they know exactly the dates when it will happen, 558 00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:05,667 and scientists and doctors have been able to test 559 00:25:05,667 --> 00:25:07,708 and videotape these occurrences, 560 00:25:07,708 --> 00:25:09,750 they can see that there is no wound 561 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:12,500 and then the camera shows the wound appearing 562 00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:14,375 and the wound closing. 563 00:25:14,375 --> 00:25:16,125 There's absolutely no chance 564 00:25:16,125 --> 00:25:18,917 that this is her inflicting the wounds on her own body. 565 00:25:18,917 --> 00:25:22,042 This seems to be an authentic case of stigmata. 566 00:25:22,042 --> 00:25:24,167 [tense music] 567 00:25:24,625 --> 00:25:26,042 - Our verdict. 568 00:25:26,042 --> 00:25:29,000 The Vatican has thus far made no official judgment, 569 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,875 but based on the film documentation 570 00:25:31,875 --> 00:25:34,625 and eyewitness accounts of Myrna's experiences, 571 00:25:34,625 --> 00:25:37,208 we're deeming this a possible miracle. 572 00:25:37,208 --> 00:25:40,958 Yet there is still not quite enough irrefutable evidence 573 00:25:40,958 --> 00:25:45,500 to confirm Myrna's claims of being marked by God. 574 00:25:50,208 --> 00:25:54,042 - Many people continue to wonder if there could be life on Mars. 575 00:25:54,042 --> 00:25:56,542 But for the red planet to support life as we know it, 576 00:25:56,542 --> 00:25:59,542 there would need to be some sort of water source. 577 00:25:59,542 --> 00:26:01,750 Could this next photo prove 578 00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:04,417 that our planetary neighbor not only has water, 579 00:26:04,417 --> 00:26:06,583 but a whole plumbing system? 580 00:26:06,583 --> 00:26:08,000 It's May 2000 on Mars. 581 00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:11,750 NASA's Mars global surveyor probe is sending back photos 582 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:13,708 from its mission to study and map 583 00:26:13,708 --> 00:26:16,125 the whole surface of the red planet. 584 00:26:16,125 --> 00:26:18,208 But as researchers are going through the pictures, 585 00:26:18,208 --> 00:26:22,208 one image is nothing like anyone could have expected. 586 00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:25,375 In the right corner of the black and white photo 587 00:26:25,375 --> 00:26:27,083 are what appear to be several long 588 00:26:27,083 --> 00:26:30,417 tube-like objects embedded in the sand or rock. 589 00:26:30,417 --> 00:26:32,042 Let's take a closer look. 590 00:26:32,042 --> 00:26:34,958 They feature a series of parallel ridges 591 00:26:34,958 --> 00:26:37,708 almost like a massive corrugated pipe. 592 00:26:37,708 --> 00:26:40,667 Former aerospace engineer Mike Bara, 593 00:26:40,667 --> 00:26:43,708 who has been studying Mars for more than two decades, 594 00:26:43,708 --> 00:26:46,292 thinks this anomaly merits further attention. 595 00:26:46,292 --> 00:26:47,875 - As a structural engineer, 596 00:26:47,875 --> 00:26:51,625 what I saw was what looked like a series of repeating, 597 00:26:51,625 --> 00:26:53,708 supporting structural objects 598 00:26:53,708 --> 00:26:56,375 that don't look entirely natural. 599 00:26:56,375 --> 00:26:59,208 - [Tony] Mike thinks it might be proof of the existence 600 00:26:59,208 --> 00:27:02,333 of some sort of past Martian civilization. 601 00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:05,500 - It could have been some sort of hydraulic tube. 602 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,625 It could be a way of moving water 603 00:27:07,625 --> 00:27:10,208 around the very barren Martian surface, 604 00:27:10,208 --> 00:27:13,042 or it could have even been a transport tube. 605 00:27:13,042 --> 00:27:15,083 And when you look at this as a glass tube, 606 00:27:15,083 --> 00:27:17,167 you see that there's like a compartment there, 607 00:27:17,167 --> 00:27:20,375 almost like a little train that got stuck in this corner 608 00:27:20,375 --> 00:27:22,042 and couldn't make the turn 609 00:27:22,042 --> 00:27:24,833 and now it's sort of encased there forever. 610 00:27:24,833 --> 00:27:27,500 - [Tony] Corrugated pipes can twist and turn. 611 00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,667 So author Jason Martell says some suggest 612 00:27:30,667 --> 00:27:32,917 this could have been an ancient aqueduct 613 00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:35,833 that used gravity to divert water. 614 00:27:35,833 --> 00:27:38,583 - NASA recently amazed the UFO community 615 00:27:38,583 --> 00:27:40,792 with the announcement that there's evidence 616 00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:43,167 for a contemporary liquid water movement 617 00:27:43,167 --> 00:27:44,875 on the Martian surface. 618 00:27:44,875 --> 00:27:48,833 - [Tony] NASA says it seems some dark streaks on Mars 619 00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:51,708 are actually running water flowing downhill. 620 00:27:51,708 --> 00:27:54,875 Still, others claim these formations aren't pipes, 621 00:27:54,875 --> 00:27:57,375 but an entirely different sort of structure. 622 00:27:57,375 --> 00:28:00,083 - Could these have been some type of a transport tube, 623 00:28:00,083 --> 00:28:02,917 also known as pneumatic tubes? 624 00:28:02,917 --> 00:28:06,042 Pressure is used to move objects through a network of tubes, 625 00:28:06,042 --> 00:28:09,083 possibly from some type of sentient aliens 626 00:28:09,083 --> 00:28:11,667 that had other worldly machine parts, 627 00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:14,792 which now lay embedded in the red planet's dirt. 628 00:28:16,208 --> 00:28:19,833 - NASA has been monitoring Mars since the 1960s, 629 00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:22,208 yet thus far they haven't been able 630 00:28:22,208 --> 00:28:25,542 to detect any indisputable signs of life. 631 00:28:25,542 --> 00:28:28,458 Are their cameras missing the big picture? 632 00:28:28,458 --> 00:28:30,792 Or is the idea of life on Mars 633 00:28:30,792 --> 00:28:33,208 better suited for comic books? 634 00:28:33,208 --> 00:28:36,375 Let's get a better read from our experts. 635 00:28:36,375 --> 00:28:38,667 [tense music] 636 00:28:39,792 --> 00:28:42,083 To kick us off, could these be broken 637 00:28:42,083 --> 00:28:46,083 and ancient pneumatic tubes from an alien transport system? 638 00:28:46,083 --> 00:28:49,292 NASA geologist Dr. Bob Anderson doubts it. 639 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:52,208 He says this design would be needlessly complex. 640 00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:54,208 - If you look at modern transport systems 641 00:28:54,208 --> 00:28:56,375 on Earth today, hyper trains and stuff, 642 00:28:56,375 --> 00:28:58,792 you don't find these kind of injunctions here. 643 00:28:58,792 --> 00:29:01,958 Why don't you just run it directly from A to B? 644 00:29:01,958 --> 00:29:04,375 - [Tony] To be fair, if these are ancient tubes, 645 00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,750 we may only be seeing fragments of them, 646 00:29:06,750 --> 00:29:09,375 but why haven't they been seen elsewhere on Mars? 647 00:29:09,375 --> 00:29:12,333 This likely also rules out them being something 648 00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:13,792 like an aqueduct system. 649 00:29:13,792 --> 00:29:16,333 - If this was created by an alien technology, 650 00:29:16,333 --> 00:29:18,875 I would expect to find something that dug the hole up. 651 00:29:18,875 --> 00:29:20,917 Any kind of a pumping system 652 00:29:20,917 --> 00:29:22,792 to get the water to go anywhere. 653 00:29:22,792 --> 00:29:25,042 But there's no parts laid anywhere 654 00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:26,583 that could be in the image. 655 00:29:26,583 --> 00:29:28,292 And also it's located in an area 656 00:29:28,292 --> 00:29:30,083 where you're not near the polar caps 657 00:29:30,083 --> 00:29:31,667 where most of the water is on Mars. 658 00:29:31,667 --> 00:29:34,833 Therefore it doesn't even seem to be in an ideal location. 659 00:29:34,833 --> 00:29:37,042 - [Tony] Yet astrophotographer Andrew McCarthy 660 00:29:37,042 --> 00:29:39,042 believes that water does have something 661 00:29:39,042 --> 00:29:40,625 to do with the solution. 662 00:29:40,625 --> 00:29:43,917 - I think what we're looking at here is an ancient riverbed, 663 00:29:43,917 --> 00:29:46,833 either formed from flowing water or flowing lava, 664 00:29:46,833 --> 00:29:49,375 that carved out this shape in the Martian terrain. 665 00:29:49,375 --> 00:29:52,208 Meanwhile, these lines were formed by sand 666 00:29:52,208 --> 00:29:54,333 being brought in by the Martian atmosphere, 667 00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:58,000 depositing it, much like sand dunes here on Earth. 668 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,208 - [Tony] And Anderson confirms this is not the only place 669 00:30:00,208 --> 00:30:02,458 where we see this on the red planet. 670 00:30:02,458 --> 00:30:04,792 - We do know that about maybe 3 billion years ago, 671 00:30:04,792 --> 00:30:07,792 Mars had a very valid hydrologic cycle. 672 00:30:07,792 --> 00:30:09,542 We had an ocean, we had streams. 673 00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:12,708 But since Mars has dried up about 2 billion years ago, 674 00:30:12,708 --> 00:30:14,667 what happens is that these channels 675 00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:16,250 or these cracks are left behind 676 00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:17,750 and because of the depression there, 677 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:19,667 the winds are flowing down those channels, 678 00:30:19,667 --> 00:30:21,417 forming these beautiful lines. 679 00:30:21,417 --> 00:30:24,708 So we've seen this all over the surface of Mars. 680 00:30:24,708 --> 00:30:27,042 [tense music] 681 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:30,042 - We have more than scratched the surface on this one. 682 00:30:30,042 --> 00:30:33,875 And although ancient aqueducts do sound interesting, 683 00:30:33,875 --> 00:30:36,208 we're going to flow in a different direction 684 00:30:36,208 --> 00:30:38,083 with our verdict and say that these 685 00:30:38,083 --> 00:30:40,833 are windblown ripples in sand dunes. 686 00:30:40,833 --> 00:30:44,000 Well, who knows? In another 2 billion years, 687 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,625 advanced plumbing systems may end up on Mars. 688 00:30:47,625 --> 00:30:48,458 Stay tuned. 689 00:30:53,708 --> 00:30:56,708 - Minnesota is home to some large attractions. 690 00:30:56,708 --> 00:30:58,750 Lake Superior, the Mall of America, 691 00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:01,042 and the legendary Paul Bunion. 692 00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:05,375 But this next local hero is the most impressive Minnesotan 693 00:31:05,375 --> 00:31:07,583 we have ever featured on the show. 694 00:31:07,583 --> 00:31:09,042 Hands down. 695 00:31:09,042 --> 00:31:10,792 It's August 2015 in Stacy, Minnesota. 696 00:31:10,792 --> 00:31:12,667 It's August 2015 in Stacy, Minnesota. 697 00:31:12,667 --> 00:31:16,000 52-year-old Jeff Dabe is at home being interviewed 698 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,125 about the unique feature that sets him apart. 699 00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:21,833 - It's nothing new to me, I mean, it was from birth. 700 00:31:21,833 --> 00:31:23,083 - [Tony] He looks like an ordinary guy, 701 00:31:23,083 --> 00:31:25,708 5'8", 260 pounds, 702 00:31:25,708 --> 00:31:28,375 until you see his arms and hands. 703 00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:32,208 Jeff's hands are a massive 14 inches round 704 00:31:32,208 --> 00:31:35,750 and his forearms measure 19 inches in circumference. 705 00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:37,875 It's no wonder he's known as the real life 706 00:31:37,875 --> 00:31:39,833 Popeye the Sailor Man. 707 00:31:39,833 --> 00:31:42,083 Jeff swears he doesn't take growth hormones 708 00:31:42,083 --> 00:31:44,292 and that his strength and size are all his own. 709 00:31:44,292 --> 00:31:46,750 It's something he's been able to take advantage of 710 00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:47,542 since he was young. 711 00:32:01,875 --> 00:32:03,583 - [Tony] Jeff also picked up arm wrestling 712 00:32:03,583 --> 00:32:04,917 and still competes today. 713 00:32:04,917 --> 00:32:07,750 In 2021, he became a world champion. 714 00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:09,917 So how does Jeff have these strong, 715 00:32:09,917 --> 00:32:12,417 massive forearms and hands? 716 00:32:12,417 --> 00:32:15,500 Some suspect he might have symptoms of gigantism 717 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,042 or acromegaly. 718 00:32:17,042 --> 00:32:19,250 - Gigantism is caused by excessive production 719 00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:21,292 of the growth hormone in childhood, 720 00:32:21,292 --> 00:32:23,458 whereas acromegaly is characterized by 721 00:32:23,458 --> 00:32:26,708 excessive production of the hormone in adulthood. 722 00:32:26,708 --> 00:32:28,917 Both conditions are typically caused 723 00:32:28,917 --> 00:32:31,458 by a tumor on the pituitary gland. 724 00:32:31,458 --> 00:32:35,208 - Most people will recognize this next real life Colossus 725 00:32:35,208 --> 00:32:37,292 who had one of these conditions. 726 00:32:37,292 --> 00:32:41,042 - Andre Renee Roussimoff, better known as Andre the Giant, 727 00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:43,958 was diagnosed with acromegaly in adulthood. 728 00:32:43,958 --> 00:32:46,208 He was so big and so strong 729 00:32:46,208 --> 00:32:50,208 that he actually used to move cars around as a prank. 730 00:32:50,208 --> 00:32:53,375 - [Tony] Not only that, but Andre's fingers were so large 731 00:32:53,375 --> 00:32:56,250 that he supposedly couldn't fit them into the holes 732 00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:59,458 on rotary phones and had to use a pen to dial. 733 00:32:59,458 --> 00:33:01,042 Jeff can surely relate, 734 00:33:01,042 --> 00:33:03,208 but some wonder if he could have a different 735 00:33:03,208 --> 00:33:05,042 rare congenital disorder. 736 00:33:05,042 --> 00:33:08,083 Klippel Trenaunay Syndrome, or KTS. 737 00:33:08,083 --> 00:33:11,667 - KTS affects the development of bones, blood vessels, 738 00:33:11,667 --> 00:33:16,125 skin, muscles, and sometimes the lymphatic system. 739 00:33:16,125 --> 00:33:19,500 It's characterized by a port wine birthmark, 740 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:22,625 a malformed limb, typically one of the legs, 741 00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,583 but sometimes the arms as well, 742 00:33:24,583 --> 00:33:26,542 and vein malformations. 743 00:33:26,542 --> 00:33:29,500 - [Tony] And another theory, growing up on a farm, 744 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,625 it's possible Jeff may have been exposed 745 00:33:31,625 --> 00:33:33,583 to radiation out in the fields. 746 00:33:33,583 --> 00:33:35,000 The reason? 747 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,583 Radio isotopes and radiation have been used 748 00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:39,167 in agriculture for decades, 749 00:33:39,167 --> 00:33:41,208 fertilizers and pest control. 750 00:33:41,208 --> 00:33:45,333 - Radiation exposure can cause congenital disabilities. 751 00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:49,208 Azamat Kazizov was born in Mailuu-Suu, Kyrgyzstan. 752 00:33:49,208 --> 00:33:52,542 It's essentially built on radioactive waste. 753 00:33:52,542 --> 00:33:57,125 Kazizov has 12 fingers and 12 toes as a result of exposure 754 00:33:57,125 --> 00:33:59,583 to this radioactive pollution. 755 00:34:01,083 --> 00:34:05,000 - On top of using his oversized limbs to his advantage, 756 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,083 Jeff says he can do pretty much anything 757 00:34:07,083 --> 00:34:08,458 a regular guy can do, 758 00:34:08,458 --> 00:34:11,125 though he prefers using a flip phone 759 00:34:11,125 --> 00:34:14,125 since it's easier for him to operate. 760 00:34:14,125 --> 00:34:17,208 So how did Jeff get his huge forearms and hands? 761 00:34:17,208 --> 00:34:19,375 Let's see what our experts have to say. 762 00:34:19,375 --> 00:34:21,625 [tense music] 763 00:34:22,542 --> 00:34:25,458 We first asked anatomy and anthropology professor 764 00:34:25,458 --> 00:34:28,167 Dr. Jeff Meldrum if Jeff Dabe suffers 765 00:34:28,167 --> 00:34:30,500 from gigantism or acromegaly. 766 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:33,167 - Oftentimes, this kind of a condition 767 00:34:33,167 --> 00:34:35,292 will affect a single limb, 768 00:34:35,292 --> 00:34:40,208 but not both limbs in such a symmetrical fashion. 769 00:34:40,208 --> 00:34:43,958 And tests showed Jeff did not suffer from 770 00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:47,458 a pituitary form of gigantism. 771 00:34:47,458 --> 00:34:50,917 He has not displayed any excessive growth 772 00:34:50,917 --> 00:34:53,708 in overall stature and size. 773 00:34:53,708 --> 00:34:56,792 There's only this disproportionate growth 774 00:34:56,792 --> 00:34:59,500 of just his forearms and hands. 775 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:03,042 - [Tony] So since it's not a pituitary gland issue, 776 00:35:03,042 --> 00:35:05,792 Dr. Ed Hope weighs in on the possibility 777 00:35:05,792 --> 00:35:09,958 this could be Klippel Trenaunay Syndrome, or KTS. 778 00:35:09,958 --> 00:35:14,375 - KTS syndrome as a diagnosis for Jeff is not a bad one 779 00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:17,042 because he also has some port wine stains, 780 00:35:17,042 --> 00:35:20,542 but for me, he doesn't fit some of the other things going on 781 00:35:20,542 --> 00:35:22,583 because he has both limbs affected 782 00:35:22,583 --> 00:35:25,708 and also he doesn't have any kind of pain 783 00:35:25,708 --> 00:35:27,375 or loss of function. 784 00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:29,750 - [Tony] Then what about those environmental factors, 785 00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:31,833 such as exposure to radiation? 786 00:35:31,833 --> 00:35:35,500 - Radiation is something that can damage your DNA, 787 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:38,542 cause mutation and therefore lead to excess growth. 788 00:35:38,542 --> 00:35:40,958 But it's not like the comic books. 789 00:35:40,958 --> 00:35:44,583 You don't get this lovely perfect structured growth. 790 00:35:44,583 --> 00:35:49,417 You get dysregulated disorder growth, you get cancers. 791 00:35:49,417 --> 00:35:52,708 Jeff's had no history of radiation exposure 792 00:35:52,708 --> 00:35:55,583 or any history of acute radiation syndromes. 793 00:35:55,583 --> 00:35:58,875 He's also got no history of cancers or cataracts, 794 00:35:58,875 --> 00:36:02,792 which also can be associated with radiation exposure. 795 00:36:04,042 --> 00:36:06,500 [tense music] 796 00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:10,000 - Our verdict, there's no known scientific explanation 797 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,500 for Jeff's condition. 798 00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:13,583 It's possible he has KTS, 799 00:36:13,583 --> 00:36:16,375 since he's never been tested for this syndrome, 800 00:36:16,375 --> 00:36:19,292 though he doesn't have all of the symptoms. 801 00:36:19,292 --> 00:36:21,750 So it seems just as likely he was simply blessed 802 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:26,042 with superhuman-like forearms and hands from birth. 803 00:36:26,042 --> 00:36:28,500 But hey, if you've got it, flaunt it. 804 00:36:33,125 --> 00:36:34,583 - Finally tonight, 805 00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:37,458 our boss said we shouldn't have done this piece, 806 00:36:37,458 --> 00:36:39,250 but we just couldn't resist. 807 00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:41,375 It's out of Alaska, which is notorious 808 00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:43,375 for anomalous occurrences. 809 00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:45,875 In this case, a body of water appears 810 00:36:45,875 --> 00:36:47,792 to have a mind of its own. 811 00:36:47,792 --> 00:36:50,667 Or is your mind playing tricks on you? 812 00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:54,708 It's December 2022, in Anchorage, Alaska. 813 00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:57,667 A family is driving down the scenic Seward highway 814 00:36:57,667 --> 00:37:00,125 along the Turnagain Arm of the cook inlet. 815 00:37:00,125 --> 00:37:01,875 The car is paused for a moment, 816 00:37:01,875 --> 00:37:05,458 but once it accelerates, something inexplicable happens. 817 00:37:05,458 --> 00:37:07,500 - [Witness] When we start moving, it looks like 818 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:11,500 it's still, and then you can tell it's moving again. 819 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:13,667 - [Tony] Whenever the car goes forward, 820 00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:16,542 the waves in the water seem to freeze. 821 00:37:16,542 --> 00:37:19,292 If it weren't for the brush going past in the foreground, 822 00:37:19,292 --> 00:37:21,792 it would look almost like a still photo. 823 00:37:21,792 --> 00:37:22,917 - [Witness] So crazy. 824 00:37:22,917 --> 00:37:24,667 - [Tony] It's probably just a trick of the eye, 825 00:37:24,667 --> 00:37:26,625 but journalist Erin McCarthy says 826 00:37:26,625 --> 00:37:29,375 some observers online have commented 827 00:37:29,375 --> 00:37:33,375 that it looks like the water is buffering in real life. 828 00:37:33,375 --> 00:37:36,125 - Some have theorized that what we're seeing here 829 00:37:36,125 --> 00:37:38,417 is actually a rendering problem. 830 00:37:38,417 --> 00:37:41,333 Think about when you're playing a video game 831 00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:43,542 or you're trying to watch a movie on streaming 832 00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:45,500 and you don't have enough memory. 833 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:49,042 And so what you're looking at kind of buffers, 834 00:37:49,042 --> 00:37:50,667 or struggles to load. 835 00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:52,875 - [Tony] McCarthy says some speculate that 836 00:37:52,875 --> 00:37:54,417 if that's what we're seeing, 837 00:37:54,417 --> 00:37:56,875 it could be because we're living in a computer simulation 838 00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:58,542 rather than a 3D reality. 839 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:01,583 - So in video games, the environment renders 840 00:38:01,583 --> 00:38:03,667 around the characters as they play. 841 00:38:03,667 --> 00:38:06,167 The theory goes that the waves are lagging 842 00:38:06,167 --> 00:38:08,375 because we live in a simulation 843 00:38:08,375 --> 00:38:11,417 and the computer program running the simulation 844 00:38:11,417 --> 00:38:13,583 doesn't have enough memory. 845 00:38:13,583 --> 00:38:15,250 So it's struggling to render the environment 846 00:38:15,250 --> 00:38:16,667 around the family. 847 00:38:17,292 --> 00:38:19,375 - Here's what's blowing my mind. 848 00:38:19,375 --> 00:38:21,208 If the water is moving to the right 849 00:38:21,208 --> 00:38:23,250 and the camera is moving to the left, 850 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:25,375 you'd think it would appear that the water 851 00:38:25,375 --> 00:38:28,542 is moving faster instead of becoming still. 852 00:38:28,542 --> 00:38:30,833 But instead of getting our eyes checked, 853 00:38:30,833 --> 00:38:33,833 I think we should check with our experts. 854 00:38:33,833 --> 00:38:35,917 [tense music] 855 00:38:36,917 --> 00:38:38,833 Forensic video analyst Michael Primeau 856 00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:41,875 takes a closer look at the video to see if it's even real. 857 00:38:41,875 --> 00:38:44,083 - I have no concerns as to whether or not 858 00:38:44,083 --> 00:38:45,500 it was altered or manipulated 859 00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:47,708 because there was sufficient metadata 860 00:38:47,708 --> 00:38:50,000 as well as structural information about the file 861 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,500 to identify as well as verify the device that produced it. 862 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,583 Throughout that analysis of the metadata, 863 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:57,542 we also noted the GPS information 864 00:38:57,542 --> 00:39:00,375 and what we've determined is this particular location 865 00:39:00,375 --> 00:39:02,542 is at a lookout in Anchorage, Alaska. 866 00:39:02,542 --> 00:39:04,375 - [Tony] So what this cell phone captured 867 00:39:04,375 --> 00:39:06,792 and where appears to be accurate. 868 00:39:06,792 --> 00:39:09,417 Does this mean we're in a matrix-like simulation 869 00:39:09,417 --> 00:39:11,042 that's buffering? 870 00:39:11,042 --> 00:39:14,167 Theoretical physicist Dr. Michio Kaku investigates. 871 00:39:14,167 --> 00:39:18,500 - The simulation necessary to create the world of the matrix 872 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:22,708 far exceeds anything imaginable with the laws of physics. 873 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:27,542 Every molecule, every atom has to be choreographed exactly 874 00:39:27,542 --> 00:39:29,667 to create the world of the matrix. 875 00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:32,333 And that is far beyond anything 876 00:39:32,333 --> 00:39:34,417 that we can imagine on the planet Earth. 877 00:39:34,417 --> 00:39:36,750 - So physicist Dr. Matthew Szydagis considers 878 00:39:36,750 --> 00:39:39,500 if this is just an optical illusion. 879 00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:42,417 - In this video, we see effects caused by 880 00:39:42,417 --> 00:39:45,375 the fact that motion is relative. 881 00:39:45,375 --> 00:39:48,958 Our brain is going to assume 882 00:39:48,958 --> 00:39:53,875 that the ground is not moving when the vehicle's not moving, 883 00:39:53,875 --> 00:39:56,667 but will appear to move when the vehicle 884 00:39:56,667 --> 00:39:59,792 of the person who's shooting this starts to move. 885 00:39:59,792 --> 00:40:01,333 - [Tony] Primeau says what we're seeing 886 00:40:01,333 --> 00:40:03,500 is what's known as the parallax effect, 887 00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,708 something we've seen before with alleged cases 888 00:40:05,708 --> 00:40:07,417 of islands moving through the water 889 00:40:07,417 --> 00:40:09,167 and planes frozen in the sky. 890 00:40:09,167 --> 00:40:12,417 - In order for the parallax effect to be dramatic, 891 00:40:12,417 --> 00:40:13,792 which is essentially what we're seeing here, 892 00:40:13,792 --> 00:40:16,583 the speed of the vehicle has to be almost identical 893 00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:18,625 to the movement of that water. 894 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:22,125 What we can do here to eliminate this confusion to the mind 895 00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:23,542 and the perception of motion 896 00:40:23,542 --> 00:40:26,083 is to crop out the foreground area. 897 00:40:26,083 --> 00:40:28,917 And that's where the human brain is focusing its attention. 898 00:40:28,917 --> 00:40:31,000 And then we can see that the body of water 899 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,167 is actually still moving. 900 00:40:32,167 --> 00:40:34,000 It actually never stops moving. 901 00:40:35,042 --> 00:40:37,125 [tense music] 902 00:40:38,875 --> 00:40:41,625 - Our verdict, this may look way cool, 903 00:40:41,625 --> 00:40:44,667 but this is the handy work of our old friend, 904 00:40:44,667 --> 00:40:46,833 the parallax effect. 905 00:40:46,833 --> 00:40:47,708 Sorry, boss. 906 00:40:47,708 --> 00:40:49,542 And that's our show for tonight. 907 00:40:49,542 --> 00:40:52,167 If you have any cool videos for us to analyze, 908 00:40:52,167 --> 00:40:53,583 please send them our way 909 00:40:53,583 --> 00:40:57,042 and remember to keep those cameras rolling. 910 00:40:57,042 --> 00:40:59,167 [dramatic music]