1 00:00:01,958 --> 00:00:03,582 - Tonight on "The Proof Is Out there," 2 00:00:03,583 --> 00:00:06,499 did a UFO buzz the 2024 solar eclipse? 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:08,625 - Now don't blink or you'll miss the coolest part. 4 00:00:10,042 --> 00:00:11,749 - [Tony] What did this train passenger see 5 00:00:11,750 --> 00:00:13,207 in a Canadian River? 6 00:00:13,208 --> 00:00:16,666 - It's not every day you wake up to a sea monster. 7 00:00:16,667 --> 00:00:19,624 - Archelon is the largest turtle that ever lived. 8 00:00:19,625 --> 00:00:22,207 It was about 12 to 13-feet long, 9 00:00:22,208 --> 00:00:25,291 and maybe as wide as 15-feet across. 10 00:00:25,292 --> 00:00:27,291 - [Tony] Is this moving metallic sphere 11 00:00:27,292 --> 00:00:29,791 a piece of alien technology? 12 00:00:29,792 --> 00:00:31,166 - He would place it on the floor, 13 00:00:31,167 --> 00:00:34,374 and it would follow members of the house around. 14 00:00:34,375 --> 00:00:36,707 - [Tony] And does this medieval cathedral prove 15 00:00:36,708 --> 00:00:40,457 it's possible for 300 years to simply vanish? 16 00:00:40,458 --> 00:00:43,874 - According to this theory, Charlemagne never even existed. 17 00:00:43,875 --> 00:00:48,041 [air whooshing] [pensive dramatic music] 18 00:00:48,042 --> 00:00:50,207 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos... 19 00:00:50,208 --> 00:00:51,791 - Oh my God! [witness shrieking] 20 00:00:51,792 --> 00:00:52,458 - [Tony] Photos, 21 00:00:53,708 --> 00:00:54,666 [enigmatic blaring] and sounds 22 00:00:54,667 --> 00:00:56,041 that defy explanation. 23 00:00:56,042 --> 00:00:58,707 [enigmatic screeching] 24 00:00:58,708 --> 00:01:01,541 [pensive dramatic music] 25 00:01:01,542 --> 00:01:03,374 - [Guest] We don't know where they come from, 26 00:01:03,375 --> 00:01:05,082 who made them, or how they operate. 27 00:01:05,083 --> 00:01:06,416 - [Tony] What are they? 28 00:01:06,417 --> 00:01:08,291 - [Guest 2] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 29 00:01:08,292 --> 00:01:10,166 - [Guest 3] What's exciting is nobody really knows. 30 00:01:10,167 --> 00:01:13,292 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 31 00:01:15,208 --> 00:01:16,416 - I'm Tony Harris, 32 00:01:16,417 --> 00:01:18,666 and as a journalist for more than 30 years, 33 00:01:18,667 --> 00:01:21,249 I've followed the facts where they take me. 34 00:01:21,250 --> 00:01:23,707 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 35 00:01:23,708 --> 00:01:26,207 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 36 00:01:26,208 --> 00:01:27,582 - [Camera Operator] It's coming towards us. 37 00:01:27,583 --> 00:01:29,874 - [Tony] We'll analyze each one with top experts. 38 00:01:29,875 --> 00:01:31,207 [enigmatic shrieking] [car thudding] 39 00:01:31,208 --> 00:01:33,541 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 40 00:01:33,542 --> 00:01:36,332 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 41 00:01:36,333 --> 00:01:38,374 - This video was clearly faked. 42 00:01:38,375 --> 00:01:40,707 - The proof starts now. 43 00:01:40,708 --> 00:01:44,250 [intriguing dramatic music] 44 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:49,666 Good evening, everyone, 45 00:01:49,667 --> 00:01:51,874 and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 46 00:01:51,875 --> 00:01:56,792 Total solar eclipses actually happen every 18 months or so, 47 00:01:57,833 --> 00:01:59,041 but they usually go unseen 48 00:01:59,042 --> 00:02:01,332 as they're only visible from the ocean. 49 00:02:01,333 --> 00:02:04,249 April, 2024 was a rare exception. 50 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:07,624 Sky watchers put on special eclipse glasses 51 00:02:07,625 --> 00:02:11,541 across North America to witness this cosmic event. 52 00:02:11,542 --> 00:02:14,166 But did this eclipse also attract attention 53 00:02:14,167 --> 00:02:15,457 from out of this world? 54 00:02:15,458 --> 00:02:17,041 [air whooshing] [intriguing orchestral music] 55 00:02:17,042 --> 00:02:20,375 April 8th, 2024, Arlington, Texas. 56 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:25,207 It's mid-afternoon, and all eyes are trained on the sky 57 00:02:25,208 --> 00:02:28,249 as the eclipse makes its way across Texas. 58 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:31,124 Everyone in the neighborhood is watching and recording, 59 00:02:31,125 --> 00:02:33,666 when all of a sudden this happens. 60 00:02:33,667 --> 00:02:35,082 - This is so cool. [spectators chattering] 61 00:02:35,083 --> 00:02:36,499 - What was that? [spectators chattering] 62 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:38,374 - What is that? - What was that? 63 00:02:38,375 --> 00:02:39,416 - What was that? [air whooshing] 64 00:02:39,417 --> 00:02:40,541 - [Tony] Did you see that? 65 00:02:40,542 --> 00:02:42,457 Let's play it back in slow motion. 66 00:02:42,458 --> 00:02:43,874 - What was that? [spectators chattering] 67 00:02:43,875 --> 00:02:45,874 - What is that? - What was that? 68 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:47,249 - [Bystander] What was that? 69 00:02:47,250 --> 00:02:49,041 - [Tony] As the sky watcher zooms in and out 70 00:02:49,042 --> 00:02:50,624 to better capture the eclipse, 71 00:02:50,625 --> 00:02:53,916 a cigar-shaped object emerges from the darkened clouds, 72 00:02:53,917 --> 00:02:57,666 darts across the sky, and disappears just as quickly. 73 00:02:57,667 --> 00:02:59,707 - What is that? - What was that? 74 00:02:59,708 --> 00:03:01,999 - [Tony] These spectators weren't the only ones 75 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,249 asking that question. 76 00:03:03,250 --> 00:03:04,707 - This video has gone viral 77 00:03:04,708 --> 00:03:07,499 and been viewed over eight million times. 78 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:10,750 It's very exciting, it's a very close encounter. 79 00:03:12,333 --> 00:03:14,457 - [Tony] News outlets around the world pick up the story, 80 00:03:14,458 --> 00:03:15,875 leaving everyone astounded. 81 00:03:17,083 --> 00:03:19,416 But perhaps we shouldn't be surprised. 82 00:03:19,417 --> 00:03:22,207 Legends of strange and supernatural events 83 00:03:22,208 --> 00:03:25,374 tied to eclipses go back millennia. 84 00:03:25,375 --> 00:03:27,332 - In ancient Mesopotamia 85 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:29,832 a solar eclipse was deep cause for concern. 86 00:03:29,833 --> 00:03:32,207 Many people thought that a solar eclipse 87 00:03:32,208 --> 00:03:34,832 meant great danger for their king. 88 00:03:34,833 --> 00:03:36,207 So what they would do 89 00:03:36,208 --> 00:03:40,207 is they would appoint a temporary king to rule 90 00:03:40,208 --> 00:03:42,666 until their solar eclipse had subsided, 91 00:03:42,667 --> 00:03:45,583 and then they would put their original king back in place. 92 00:03:46,708 --> 00:03:48,707 - [Tony] There's a theory that UFOs 93 00:03:48,708 --> 00:03:51,874 are more likely to appear during eclipses. 94 00:03:51,875 --> 00:03:57,124 Take, for instance, a mass sighting in July, 1991, 95 00:03:57,125 --> 00:03:59,707 when thousands of Mexico City residents 96 00:03:59,708 --> 00:04:03,667 witnessed this UFO during the total eclipse. 97 00:04:05,042 --> 00:04:08,374 Or, the July, 2009, eclipse, 98 00:04:08,375 --> 00:04:11,874 when Chinese scientists recorded an unidentified object 99 00:04:11,875 --> 00:04:15,707 behind the sun for more than 40 minutes. 100 00:04:15,708 --> 00:04:19,291 Or, the earliest known recorded eclipse 101 00:04:19,292 --> 00:04:21,916 carved 5,000 years ago in Ireland, 102 00:04:21,917 --> 00:04:26,291 which appears to be surrounded by unidentified objects. 103 00:04:26,292 --> 00:04:29,041 - I think aliens would be interested 104 00:04:29,042 --> 00:04:31,874 in how we react to a solar eclipse. 105 00:04:31,875 --> 00:04:34,916 We're no longer making sacrifices to our gods 106 00:04:34,917 --> 00:04:36,041 because of the eclipse, 107 00:04:36,042 --> 00:04:37,249 we're actually looking at it 108 00:04:37,250 --> 00:04:40,499 as a scientific event of importance. 109 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:41,707 - What was that? [spectators chattering] 110 00:04:41,708 --> 00:04:43,416 [static crackling] 111 00:04:43,417 --> 00:04:45,874 - We won't see another total solar eclipse 112 00:04:45,875 --> 00:04:50,582 over the contiguous United States until August, 2044. 113 00:04:50,583 --> 00:04:55,041 Could this video be proof that eclipses are linked to UFOs, 114 00:04:55,042 --> 00:04:58,416 or will we have to wait two more decades to find out? 115 00:04:58,417 --> 00:05:00,374 Let's see what our experts think. 116 00:05:00,375 --> 00:05:04,124 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 117 00:05:04,125 --> 00:05:05,624 First, we need to ask, 118 00:05:05,625 --> 00:05:08,749 are there really more UFOs during eclipses, 119 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:11,207 or just more potential eyewitnesses? 120 00:05:11,208 --> 00:05:13,166 - During an eclipse, what's everybody doing? 121 00:05:13,167 --> 00:05:14,332 They're looking up. 122 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:16,374 So, the chances of seeing something 123 00:05:16,375 --> 00:05:18,124 are higher, statistically, 124 00:05:18,125 --> 00:05:20,666 when you've got hundreds of thousands or millions of people 125 00:05:20,667 --> 00:05:22,582 looking up in the sky at once. 126 00:05:22,583 --> 00:05:24,916 - They many times will see things 127 00:05:24,917 --> 00:05:27,707 that they're not used to seeing in the sky, 128 00:05:27,708 --> 00:05:29,791 but when we actually go and investigate, 129 00:05:29,792 --> 00:05:33,916 we're usually able to explain all those reported UFOs. 130 00:05:33,917 --> 00:05:35,707 - [Tony] Then what is this? 131 00:05:35,708 --> 00:05:38,749 - You can make out the fact that it's fuselage shape, 132 00:05:38,750 --> 00:05:41,666 and then if you get down into the pixel, the closer look, 133 00:05:41,667 --> 00:05:43,207 you can actually see that it does have 134 00:05:43,208 --> 00:05:45,416 some sort of wing structure to it. 135 00:05:45,417 --> 00:05:48,749 This typically matches up with being an aircraft 136 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:51,207 flying above the cloud layer. 137 00:05:51,208 --> 00:05:52,958 - Wait, wings? 138 00:05:54,042 --> 00:05:56,749 We slow down and magnify the video, 139 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:59,124 and look for the wings in question. 140 00:05:59,125 --> 00:06:00,707 And we're just not seeing them. 141 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:03,541 But that's not the only proof of a plane. 142 00:06:03,542 --> 00:06:05,166 - [Rich] It's near an airport, 143 00:06:05,167 --> 00:06:09,374 and so, there's gonna be a lot of aircraft activity. 144 00:06:09,375 --> 00:06:11,041 - [Tony] And given these conditions, 145 00:06:11,042 --> 00:06:14,750 a passing plane's shadow could look just like this. 146 00:06:15,750 --> 00:06:16,999 - [Rich] These are cumulus clouds 147 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,416 that are roughly at 3000-feet altitude. 148 00:06:19,417 --> 00:06:20,874 So somewhere above that, 149 00:06:20,875 --> 00:06:22,874 you potentially have got something moving along, 150 00:06:22,875 --> 00:06:26,624 and you would also have the sun in the background. 151 00:06:26,625 --> 00:06:28,332 - [Tony] During an eclipse, 152 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:30,791 anything running parallel with the crescent sun, 153 00:06:30,792 --> 00:06:34,166 like the plane's fuselage, will have sharp shadows, 154 00:06:34,167 --> 00:06:36,541 while anything running perpendicular, 155 00:06:36,542 --> 00:06:39,582 like the plane's wings, will have fuzzier shadows. 156 00:06:39,583 --> 00:06:42,874 That could explain why the wings aren't visible here. 157 00:06:42,875 --> 00:06:44,582 - Potentially, what you're seeing then 158 00:06:44,583 --> 00:06:46,750 would be the shadow of an aircraft. 159 00:06:48,458 --> 00:06:52,332 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 160 00:06:52,333 --> 00:06:53,916 - Our verdict; 161 00:06:53,917 --> 00:06:57,124 this is likely a plane casting one ominous looking shadow 162 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:58,624 down on the clouds. 163 00:06:58,625 --> 00:07:00,957 During the April, 2024, eclipse, 164 00:07:00,958 --> 00:07:04,832 some airlines even offered special eclipse flights 165 00:07:04,833 --> 00:07:08,874 that offered an extra-long view of this celestial sight. 166 00:07:08,875 --> 00:07:10,291 [intriguing ominous music] [air whooshing] 167 00:07:10,292 --> 00:07:13,541 But now, let's talk about a different kind of tourism: 168 00:07:13,542 --> 00:07:15,207 train travel. 169 00:07:15,208 --> 00:07:18,166 Recently, we profiled a couple of vacationers on a train 170 00:07:18,167 --> 00:07:21,874 who thought they caught a passing glimpse of a Bigfoot. 171 00:07:21,875 --> 00:07:24,541 Well, now, a couple of train passengers 172 00:07:24,542 --> 00:07:28,624 think their video captured a real-life river monster. 173 00:07:28,625 --> 00:07:29,874 [air whooshing] [suspenseful dramatic music] 174 00:07:29,875 --> 00:07:34,207 July, 2022, Kamloops, British Columbia. 175 00:07:34,208 --> 00:07:36,207 Arti Rani is taking a scenic 176 00:07:36,208 --> 00:07:38,499 Canadian train ride with her family, 177 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,457 when she decides to capture some video 178 00:07:40,458 --> 00:07:42,542 of the picturesque Thompson River. 179 00:07:43,750 --> 00:07:46,041 And that's when she captures this. 180 00:07:46,042 --> 00:07:47,374 [dramatic ominous music] [water murmuring] 181 00:07:47,375 --> 00:07:49,707 Look at the waters churning 182 00:07:49,708 --> 00:07:51,416 apparently because of something massive 183 00:07:51,417 --> 00:07:53,541 just beneath the surface. 184 00:07:53,542 --> 00:07:55,041 - I just opened the window and said 185 00:07:55,042 --> 00:07:58,624 "Something is very big there, really big." 186 00:07:58,625 --> 00:08:00,832 And when I saw that, I couldn't take off my eyes, 187 00:08:00,833 --> 00:08:03,291 I said "It's something there." 188 00:08:03,292 --> 00:08:04,874 And I was waiting, 189 00:08:04,875 --> 00:08:07,624 because I thought "Maybe, I'll see something else too." 190 00:08:07,625 --> 00:08:09,082 - [Tony] Unfortunately for Arti, 191 00:08:09,083 --> 00:08:12,707 whatever it was never fully revealed itself. 192 00:08:12,708 --> 00:08:14,957 But some believe that this could be evidence 193 00:08:14,958 --> 00:08:17,624 of a creature we've covered in the past. 194 00:08:17,625 --> 00:08:19,082 - Looking at this footage, I'm reminded 195 00:08:19,083 --> 00:08:21,916 of one of the most famous sea monsters of all time: 196 00:08:21,917 --> 00:08:25,332 the Cadborosaurus, also known as Caddy. 197 00:08:25,333 --> 00:08:26,874 [dramatic ominous music] 198 00:08:26,875 --> 00:08:28,916 - [Tony] Named after Cadboro Bay, 199 00:08:28,917 --> 00:08:32,791 located just 200-miles from where Arti's video was shot, 200 00:08:32,792 --> 00:08:34,874 the Cadborosaurus is thought to be 201 00:08:34,875 --> 00:08:37,874 a massive serpentine-like creature 202 00:08:37,875 --> 00:08:40,291 that can reach nearly 60-feet in length. 203 00:08:40,292 --> 00:08:41,791 And according to some reports, 204 00:08:41,792 --> 00:08:43,332 there could be more than one. 205 00:08:43,333 --> 00:08:44,874 - There's a very famous sighting 206 00:08:44,875 --> 00:08:48,582 that evolved two float plane pilots in the 1990s. 207 00:08:48,583 --> 00:08:51,082 They were performing maneuvers off the coast, 208 00:08:51,083 --> 00:08:55,541 and they suddenly saw these two 30-foot serpentine animals 209 00:08:55,542 --> 00:08:57,207 swimming in unison through the surf, 210 00:08:57,208 --> 00:09:01,624 and leaving giant wakes in the water with their bodies. 211 00:09:01,625 --> 00:09:04,207 - [Tony] While normally spotted along the ocean, 212 00:09:04,208 --> 00:09:07,499 some have theorized that Caddy could have made its way 213 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:10,707 up through the numerous connecting rivers. 214 00:09:10,708 --> 00:09:12,332 Meanwhile, others have wondered 215 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:15,916 if the giant circular shell shape inside this wave 216 00:09:15,917 --> 00:09:19,250 is reminiscent of something like a giant circular shell. 217 00:09:20,583 --> 00:09:22,791 - We can kind of see the scutes, the plates 218 00:09:22,792 --> 00:09:25,542 that we would expect to see on a turtle's shell. 219 00:09:26,792 --> 00:09:30,416 There have been accounts of massive turtles 220 00:09:30,417 --> 00:09:31,707 in the world's oceans, 221 00:09:31,708 --> 00:09:34,707 often described as being up to 12-feet long. 222 00:09:34,708 --> 00:09:36,041 [ominous whooshing] 223 00:09:36,042 --> 00:09:37,749 - [Tony] And one such prehistoric monster 224 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:39,582 could be linked to this area. 225 00:09:39,583 --> 00:09:42,624 - Archelon is the largest turtle that ever lived. 226 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:46,499 It was around about 65, 66 million years ago. 227 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:48,457 It lived in the shallow Cretaceous seas 228 00:09:48,458 --> 00:09:50,207 that once covered North America, 229 00:09:50,208 --> 00:09:52,749 it was about 12 to 13-feet long, 230 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:55,874 and maybe as wide as 15-feet across. 231 00:09:55,875 --> 00:09:57,499 Certainly one could make an argument 232 00:09:57,500 --> 00:09:59,666 that it's not impossible 233 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:02,124 that something like the Archelon still exists. 234 00:10:02,125 --> 00:10:03,582 [dramatic thud] [static crackling] 235 00:10:03,583 --> 00:10:04,874 - Now perhaps you're thinking 236 00:10:04,875 --> 00:10:06,916 what many people on the internet thought 237 00:10:06,917 --> 00:10:09,541 when they first saw this video; 238 00:10:09,542 --> 00:10:11,749 this is just a rock or some object 239 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:15,832 creating, what looks like, a creature moving underwater, 240 00:10:15,833 --> 00:10:18,541 because the video is shot from a moving train. 241 00:10:18,542 --> 00:10:20,707 We've seen cases like that before. 242 00:10:20,708 --> 00:10:22,707 But when we showed this to our experts, 243 00:10:22,708 --> 00:10:24,416 they had another opinion. 244 00:10:24,417 --> 00:10:28,291 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 245 00:10:28,292 --> 00:10:30,374 [water murmuring] 246 00:10:30,375 --> 00:10:33,249 - Some people have proposed that what we see here 247 00:10:33,250 --> 00:10:36,041 is just a stationary rock in the water. 248 00:10:36,042 --> 00:10:37,707 I don't think that's the case, 249 00:10:37,708 --> 00:10:41,249 because this wave is propagating at a fairly high velocity 250 00:10:41,250 --> 00:10:42,707 with a lot of force 251 00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:45,416 going towards the left side of the camera. 252 00:10:45,417 --> 00:10:48,624 In fact, it looks like it could be some kind of animal. 253 00:10:48,625 --> 00:10:50,249 - [Tony] If it's biological, 254 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:53,791 could this be Canada's infamous Cadborosaurus? 255 00:10:53,792 --> 00:10:56,749 - What we see here doesn't match the Cadborosaurus. 256 00:10:56,750 --> 00:11:00,124 If a long, sinuous body is moving through water, 257 00:11:00,125 --> 00:11:02,707 you wouldn't expect very much disturbance at all. 258 00:11:02,708 --> 00:11:06,041 Animals in the water are shaped in very specific ways 259 00:11:06,042 --> 00:11:08,957 to preserve energy and retain body heat. 260 00:11:08,958 --> 00:11:10,249 I don't think this is the wake 261 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:13,041 from a really long snake-like creature, 262 00:11:13,042 --> 00:11:15,707 I would expect a much different wake pattern. 263 00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:17,832 - When we're looking at reportings 264 00:11:17,833 --> 00:11:21,749 of Caddy, or Cadborosaurus, in the wild, 265 00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:25,999 typically people are misiding oarfish, seals. 266 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,749 So even if it was some sort of misidentification like that, 267 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:32,457 again, I would expect to see part of the animal 268 00:11:32,458 --> 00:11:34,791 to be visible on the surface. 269 00:11:34,792 --> 00:11:37,249 - And as far as it being an archaic turtle, 270 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:38,749 like the Archelon, 271 00:11:38,750 --> 00:11:40,374 we're not buying that one either. 272 00:11:40,375 --> 00:11:43,207 - There's a few reasons why I wouldn't lean that way. 273 00:11:43,208 --> 00:11:46,041 One, turtles do have to surface to breathe. 274 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:48,999 So if we are looking at a big sea turtle like that, 275 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,957 you would see a nose coming up. 276 00:11:50,958 --> 00:11:53,124 And also, in the lake Cretaceous, 277 00:11:53,125 --> 00:11:55,041 temperatures in the seas over here 278 00:11:55,042 --> 00:11:57,999 used to be a lot warmer than they are now. 279 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,999 Due to the changes in climate, 280 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,042 that sea turtle could no longer exist in this region today. 281 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,249 I've taken into account the location 282 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:08,749 and all the possible animals this could be, 283 00:12:08,750 --> 00:12:10,874 and I think it's safe to say, 284 00:12:10,875 --> 00:12:13,374 I don't actually know what this is, 285 00:12:13,375 --> 00:12:14,582 or what's causing the wake, 286 00:12:14,583 --> 00:12:16,707 but I know it's very large. 287 00:12:16,708 --> 00:12:19,457 - What we're seeing is some kind of large animal 288 00:12:19,458 --> 00:12:21,124 that is creating this wake. 289 00:12:21,125 --> 00:12:22,457 That being said, 290 00:12:22,458 --> 00:12:25,207 I don't see a lot of defining physical features 291 00:12:25,208 --> 00:12:27,874 that would tell me what kind of animal this is. 292 00:12:27,875 --> 00:12:29,749 So it's kind of a mystery. 293 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:33,916 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 294 00:12:33,917 --> 00:12:37,207 - Our verdict; unidentified creature. 295 00:12:37,208 --> 00:12:38,332 Our experts agree 296 00:12:38,333 --> 00:12:40,874 that whatever this thing is, it's biological, 297 00:12:40,875 --> 00:12:42,624 and it's definitely large. 298 00:12:42,625 --> 00:12:45,082 However, without further evidence, 299 00:12:45,083 --> 00:12:47,500 our investigation is dead in the water. 300 00:12:51,375 --> 00:12:51,500 - A question for you. 301 00:12:52,875 --> 00:12:54,832 What's the wildest thing you found lying on the ground? 302 00:12:54,833 --> 00:12:58,207 Maybe some money, some jewelry, a phone? 303 00:12:58,208 --> 00:13:02,041 Well, one family came upon a curious sphere 304 00:13:02,042 --> 00:13:04,666 that appeared to move on its own, 305 00:13:04,667 --> 00:13:06,166 and then it vanished. 306 00:13:06,167 --> 00:13:07,457 What was it? 307 00:13:07,458 --> 00:13:10,207 A mystery that's lasted 50 years. 308 00:13:10,208 --> 00:13:11,374 [air whooshing] [intriguing ominous music] 309 00:13:11,375 --> 00:13:16,167 March 27th, 1974, Fort George Island, Florida, 310 00:13:17,375 --> 00:13:20,207 Jerri and Antoine Betz, along with their son Terry, 311 00:13:20,208 --> 00:13:22,707 are walking in a wooded area near their home 312 00:13:22,708 --> 00:13:24,291 when they find something on the ground 313 00:13:24,292 --> 00:13:26,917 that looks like it's from another planet. 314 00:13:27,667 --> 00:13:29,957 It's a strange metallic sphere, 315 00:13:29,958 --> 00:13:32,041 approximately eight-inches in diameter, 316 00:13:32,042 --> 00:13:34,666 and weighing nearly 22-pounds. 317 00:13:34,667 --> 00:13:37,874 As you can see in this local news footage from the time, 318 00:13:37,875 --> 00:13:41,707 the shiny artifact has no seams or weld marks, 319 00:13:41,708 --> 00:13:44,291 there's nothing to indicate its provenance. 320 00:13:44,292 --> 00:13:47,916 - When the Betz family brought this round object home, 321 00:13:47,917 --> 00:13:50,916 they realized it began to behave in some unusual ways. 322 00:13:50,917 --> 00:13:52,582 They would place it on the table, 323 00:13:52,583 --> 00:13:56,082 and it would just randomly roll around and not fall off, 324 00:13:56,083 --> 00:13:57,957 or they would place it on the floor 325 00:13:57,958 --> 00:14:00,999 and it would follow members of the house around. 326 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,082 - [Tony] As word about this sphere began to spread, 327 00:14:04,083 --> 00:14:07,041 scientists conducted a series of tests. 328 00:14:07,042 --> 00:14:08,874 - They made a few interesting discoveries. 329 00:14:08,875 --> 00:14:12,166 First, the ball could withstand extreme heat. 330 00:14:12,167 --> 00:14:14,249 It was made out of a stainless steel alloy, 331 00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:18,041 so it was clearly designed to take on a lot of pressure, 332 00:14:18,042 --> 00:14:20,791 about 120,000-pounds per square inch. 333 00:14:20,792 --> 00:14:23,582 So we're dealing with a heavy industrial 334 00:14:23,583 --> 00:14:25,166 piece of metal here. 335 00:14:25,167 --> 00:14:26,707 - [Tony] Could we looking at something 336 00:14:26,708 --> 00:14:28,875 as simple as a massive ball bearing? 337 00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:33,374 A peek inside the sphere only deepens the mystery. 338 00:14:33,375 --> 00:14:36,082 - [MJ] Scientists later performed X-ray of the sphere, 339 00:14:36,083 --> 00:14:37,791 and they discovered that inside 340 00:14:37,792 --> 00:14:40,332 were actually two smaller magnetic spheres 341 00:14:40,333 --> 00:14:43,374 that had four magnetic poles total, 342 00:14:43,375 --> 00:14:45,457 so two positives and two negatives. 343 00:14:45,458 --> 00:14:46,666 [ominous whooshing] 344 00:14:46,667 --> 00:14:48,041 - [Tony] Not long after its discovery, 345 00:14:48,042 --> 00:14:50,207 the sphere was examined by a panel of experts, 346 00:14:50,208 --> 00:14:52,707 including astronomer J. Allen Hynek, 347 00:14:52,708 --> 00:14:54,582 the man who was Chief Scientific Advisor 348 00:14:54,583 --> 00:14:56,082 for Project Blue Book, 349 00:14:56,083 --> 00:14:57,916 the Air Force's top secret effort 350 00:14:57,917 --> 00:15:00,541 to investigate suspected UFOs. 351 00:15:00,542 --> 00:15:02,166 [ominous whooshing] 352 00:15:02,167 --> 00:15:05,125 Hynek didn't observe anything unusual about the sphere, 353 00:15:06,750 --> 00:15:08,624 but an engineer on the panel revealed 354 00:15:08,625 --> 00:15:12,916 that its magnetic field is over 1000 times more powerful 355 00:15:12,917 --> 00:15:15,416 than that of any known substance. 356 00:15:15,417 --> 00:15:18,832 Could it be some kind of extraterrestrial probe? 357 00:15:18,833 --> 00:15:21,749 If that sounds like a far-fetched theory, 358 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:23,374 consider a recent discovery 359 00:15:23,375 --> 00:15:26,958 that some believe could be proof of alien tech. 360 00:15:28,042 --> 00:15:30,874 - [MJ] In 2023, Harvard Professor Avi Loeb 361 00:15:30,875 --> 00:15:34,707 went on an expedition to find and recover 50 or so pieces 362 00:15:34,708 --> 00:15:38,874 of these very tiny round kind of granules of meteorite 363 00:15:38,875 --> 00:15:40,041 that came from outer space. 364 00:15:40,042 --> 00:15:42,999 Dr. Loeb's belief is that this meteorite 365 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,041 is perhaps a probe from an intelligent species 366 00:15:46,042 --> 00:15:48,791 that made its way to Earth and crash landed. 367 00:15:48,792 --> 00:15:50,582 [explosion booming] [water splashing] 368 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:51,957 [static crackling] 369 00:15:51,958 --> 00:15:53,291 - According to the Betz family, 370 00:15:53,292 --> 00:15:55,041 while examining the sphere, 371 00:15:55,042 --> 00:15:57,666 a researcher discovered that it was emitting 372 00:15:57,667 --> 00:16:00,082 some sort of radio signal. 373 00:16:00,083 --> 00:16:01,874 This led some to theorize that the object 374 00:16:01,875 --> 00:16:04,374 could be an alien listening device. 375 00:16:04,375 --> 00:16:06,082 To find out if they were right, 376 00:16:06,083 --> 00:16:07,874 we turn to our experts. 377 00:16:07,875 --> 00:16:11,874 [intriguing dramatic music] [text clacking] 378 00:16:11,875 --> 00:16:14,374 Why did this orb move erratically 379 00:16:14,375 --> 00:16:17,291 when the Betz family placed it on a flat surface? 380 00:16:17,292 --> 00:16:20,749 - We know that the Betz house was an older house, 381 00:16:20,750 --> 00:16:25,832 and most old houses do have some corner that sunk 382 00:16:25,833 --> 00:16:29,291 a little faster than the other, and the floors are uneven. 383 00:16:29,292 --> 00:16:31,207 That would be a simple explanation 384 00:16:31,208 --> 00:16:34,999 of why the Betz's ball rolled across their old floor. 385 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,416 [air whooshing] 386 00:16:36,417 --> 00:16:37,791 - What about the idea that the Betz sphere 387 00:16:37,792 --> 00:16:41,832 was either an alien probe or part of a spacecraft? 388 00:16:41,833 --> 00:16:43,374 - If it had been part of a spacecraft, 389 00:16:43,375 --> 00:16:45,707 you would expect to see some marks on it 390 00:16:45,708 --> 00:16:47,582 from through the atmosphere, 391 00:16:47,583 --> 00:16:49,207 and there's no marks on it. 392 00:16:49,208 --> 00:16:51,249 There's no burn marks, or what's called a fusion crust 393 00:16:51,250 --> 00:16:53,041 on meteorites when they come in. 394 00:16:53,042 --> 00:16:55,166 We don't see anything like that. 395 00:16:55,167 --> 00:16:58,499 Also, you can rule out the idea that it's extraterrestrial, 396 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:01,166 because most of the studies that have been done 397 00:17:01,167 --> 00:17:03,957 shows that all the materials that make up the ball 398 00:17:03,958 --> 00:17:05,582 are found on Earth. 399 00:17:05,583 --> 00:17:07,332 But the question is why would you wanna make 400 00:17:07,333 --> 00:17:09,999 something this big and out of stainless steel? 401 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,874 - [Tony] There could be one explanation. 402 00:17:11,875 --> 00:17:13,999 - We know that tiny ball bearings 403 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,957 are in all sorts of machines today, 404 00:17:16,958 --> 00:17:20,707 and larger machines need larger ball bearings. 405 00:17:20,708 --> 00:17:24,457 So, you know, in terms of human technology, 406 00:17:24,458 --> 00:17:28,374 balls made of metal of all sorts of diameters 407 00:17:28,375 --> 00:17:33,041 are relatively common in the machine world. 408 00:17:33,042 --> 00:17:35,082 - [Tony] And as for those strange radio signals 409 00:17:35,083 --> 00:17:37,207 the sphere was emitting, 410 00:17:37,208 --> 00:17:38,999 maybe they weren't so strange. 411 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,249 - The idea that it emitted radio signals, 412 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:42,791 that wouldn't surprise me 413 00:17:42,792 --> 00:17:45,541 since it's really just a huge hunk of stainless steel. 414 00:17:45,542 --> 00:17:48,249 If it had some impurities in that metal, 415 00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:50,749 then it might be able to act like an antenna 416 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:53,083 and pick up some minor stuff once in a while. 417 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:56,707 Unfortunately, there's no way to be able to identify 418 00:17:56,708 --> 00:17:59,249 and actually look inside and see what's there, 419 00:17:59,250 --> 00:18:00,792 because the ball disappeared. 420 00:18:01,833 --> 00:18:02,791 - [Tony] That's right. 421 00:18:02,792 --> 00:18:04,832 For years, the sphere seen here 422 00:18:04,833 --> 00:18:07,416 at a panel of UFO investigators 423 00:18:07,417 --> 00:18:10,207 changed hands between different researchers 424 00:18:10,208 --> 00:18:12,124 and institutions, 425 00:18:12,125 --> 00:18:15,832 then it vanished without a trace. 426 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:20,249 - It's not available for study, which is a big red flag 427 00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:22,374 from the scientific point of view. 428 00:18:22,375 --> 00:18:25,249 As a person who looks into these kind of phenomenon, 429 00:18:25,250 --> 00:18:29,957 its non-existence alone makes me suspicious of its origin. 430 00:18:29,958 --> 00:18:33,957 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 431 00:18:33,958 --> 00:18:36,499 - Our verdict; unexplained. 432 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:40,624 The Betz sphere might just be an industrial ball bearing, 433 00:18:40,625 --> 00:18:44,249 but why the mysterious magnetic charges inside it? 434 00:18:44,250 --> 00:18:46,999 And where on Earth is this thing? 435 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,166 As of now, it's lost to history, 436 00:18:49,167 --> 00:18:51,749 leaving us with more questions than answers. 437 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:54,833 In other words, this ball's up in the air. 438 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,208 - We've heard of moon truthers 439 00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:02,207 who think the lunar landings were hoaxes, 440 00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:05,457 but did you know there are also time truthers out there 441 00:19:05,458 --> 00:19:10,375 who claim we're actually closer to the year 1725 than 2025? 442 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,166 What's their proof? 443 00:19:12,167 --> 00:19:13,332 Take a look. 444 00:19:13,333 --> 00:19:15,457 We're in Aachen, Germany, for this one, 445 00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:18,082 specifically at the city's historic Cathedral 446 00:19:18,083 --> 00:19:20,999 constructed around the late eighth century. 447 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,541 Its chapel is where the great King Charlemagne was buried. 448 00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:29,542 He ruled much of the continent from 768 to 814 AD. 449 00:19:30,708 --> 00:19:33,749 But for some, that last part about Charlemagne's rule 450 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:35,374 is a complete fiction. 451 00:19:35,375 --> 00:19:37,291 - When some people look at this Cathedral, 452 00:19:37,292 --> 00:19:39,291 they see the impossible 453 00:19:39,292 --> 00:19:42,916 that it could not have been built in the year 800. 454 00:19:42,917 --> 00:19:44,332 And they're trying to prove 455 00:19:44,333 --> 00:19:46,957 that important historical figures like Charlemagne 456 00:19:46,958 --> 00:19:48,957 never actually existed. 457 00:19:48,958 --> 00:19:50,207 - [Tony] Excuse me? 458 00:19:50,208 --> 00:19:52,041 We've heard of rewriting history, 459 00:19:52,042 --> 00:19:54,874 but fabricating it, centuries worth? 460 00:19:54,875 --> 00:19:58,291 The idea is known as the Phantom Time Hypothesis. 461 00:19:58,292 --> 00:20:00,832 - The Phantom Time Hypothesis was first floated 462 00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:04,416 by German historian, Heribert Illig, in 1991. 463 00:20:04,417 --> 00:20:05,874 According to this theory, 464 00:20:05,875 --> 00:20:10,750 the years between 614 and 911 simply didn't exist. 465 00:20:11,833 --> 00:20:13,082 - [Tony] Okay, this is tricky, 466 00:20:13,083 --> 00:20:16,082 so please pay attention as we explain. 467 00:20:16,083 --> 00:20:18,707 The Phantom Time Hypothesis posits 468 00:20:18,708 --> 00:20:22,457 that Pope Sylvester II and Emperor Otto III, 469 00:20:22,458 --> 00:20:27,458 who ruled in about 1000 AD actually lived back in the 700s. 470 00:20:29,375 --> 00:20:31,916 And they forged historical documents 471 00:20:31,917 --> 00:20:35,082 to add 300 years to the timeline. 472 00:20:35,083 --> 00:20:37,249 But why would they go to this trouble? 473 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:39,374 - The idea is they wanted to align their reigns 474 00:20:39,375 --> 00:20:41,041 with the year 1000, 475 00:20:41,042 --> 00:20:44,291 exactly one millennium after the birth of Jesus Christ, 476 00:20:44,292 --> 00:20:46,249 which they believed would've made their reigns 477 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:48,457 more historically significant. 478 00:20:48,458 --> 00:20:49,707 - [Tony] An interesting story. 479 00:20:49,708 --> 00:20:52,416 Who doesn't love a good papal conspiracy? 480 00:20:52,417 --> 00:20:53,874 But where's the proof? 481 00:20:53,875 --> 00:20:57,332 Inter German Researcher, Dr. Hans-Ulrich Niemitz, 482 00:20:57,333 --> 00:21:00,749 he pointed to several forged documents from the era, 483 00:21:00,750 --> 00:21:03,624 and believes the church faked these documents, 484 00:21:03,625 --> 00:21:06,457 deeds for land and other trivial papers. 485 00:21:06,458 --> 00:21:08,707 To make it look like things have been happening 486 00:21:08,708 --> 00:21:11,832 in those years, they fast-forwarded over. 487 00:21:11,833 --> 00:21:13,416 - And there are others who claim to have found 488 00:21:13,417 --> 00:21:14,707 forged documents from that era, 489 00:21:14,708 --> 00:21:17,332 including a professor at Exeter University. 490 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:20,249 He discovered 17 forged documents 491 00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:21,916 by monks at a monastery 492 00:21:21,917 --> 00:21:23,999 from the early 1000s. 493 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,624 - [Tony] How does Aachen Cathedral fit into all this? 494 00:21:27,625 --> 00:21:30,041 Niemitz said it was another example 495 00:21:30,042 --> 00:21:34,957 of the church fudging records to backfill missing centuries. 496 00:21:34,958 --> 00:21:36,457 He said the church 497 00:21:36,458 --> 00:21:40,041 was too architecturally advanced for the year 800, 498 00:21:40,042 --> 00:21:41,374 and was built later. 499 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:42,749 - According to Dr. Niemitz, 500 00:21:42,750 --> 00:21:46,374 there are no other cathedrals within 150 years 501 00:21:46,375 --> 00:21:49,124 of when Aachen Cathedral was said to have been built 502 00:21:49,125 --> 00:21:50,666 that have similar features. 503 00:21:50,667 --> 00:21:53,291 The cupola was built of stone, 504 00:21:53,292 --> 00:21:55,707 and the Franks at the time were building with wood. 505 00:21:55,708 --> 00:21:58,249 There were also more than 20 other features 506 00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:01,207 that he said he had not found in cathedrals 507 00:22:01,208 --> 00:22:04,625 built immediately before or after this one. 508 00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:07,374 [static crackling] 509 00:22:07,375 --> 00:22:11,207 - Now, powerful people changing history to suit them 510 00:22:11,208 --> 00:22:12,707 is nothing new. 511 00:22:12,708 --> 00:22:16,166 In ancient Egypt, after the death of King Tutankhamun, 512 00:22:16,167 --> 00:22:17,541 court officials tried their best 513 00:22:17,542 --> 00:22:20,874 to erase any historical reference to the former pharaoh, 514 00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:24,291 but did a powerful cabal really fast forward the calendar 515 00:22:24,292 --> 00:22:26,291 and make up three centuries? 516 00:22:26,292 --> 00:22:29,124 Putting it mildly, we need some proof. 517 00:22:29,125 --> 00:22:33,166 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 518 00:22:33,167 --> 00:22:35,916 One part of the theory is fact. 519 00:22:35,917 --> 00:22:39,541 Forgeries by clergy in the Middle Ages were widespread, 520 00:22:39,542 --> 00:22:41,707 especially when it came to land deeds. 521 00:22:41,708 --> 00:22:43,999 - The best conspiracy theories 522 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,999 always have at their heart a grain of truth. 523 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,457 And, in this case, it is absolutely true 524 00:22:50,458 --> 00:22:53,624 that documents were being forged left and right 525 00:22:53,625 --> 00:22:55,291 in the medieval times. 526 00:22:55,292 --> 00:22:59,666 The priests were doing this for, sometimes, simple reasons, 527 00:22:59,667 --> 00:23:02,707 these forgeries were kind of precautions 528 00:23:02,708 --> 00:23:07,667 against the growingly powerful aristocracy 529 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,707 and their claims that they in fact owned the land, 530 00:23:10,708 --> 00:23:12,332 not the church. 531 00:23:12,333 --> 00:23:14,582 - The missing time theory is extremely flawed. 532 00:23:14,583 --> 00:23:17,624 How can one pope in one country on one continent 533 00:23:17,625 --> 00:23:19,791 convince the entire planet, 534 00:23:19,792 --> 00:23:23,874 including people in Africa, Asia, and Australia, 535 00:23:23,875 --> 00:23:26,124 to all just make up a few hundred years 536 00:23:26,125 --> 00:23:29,249 in their history books and make up fictional people? 537 00:23:29,250 --> 00:23:31,666 - The Phantom Time Hypothesis 538 00:23:31,667 --> 00:23:36,541 uses purely European historical examples 539 00:23:36,542 --> 00:23:37,957 to build its argument. 540 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:42,332 We have probably thousands of documents from China 541 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:45,874 that talk about a very verifiable narrative 542 00:23:45,875 --> 00:23:47,999 of history happening at that time. 543 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,374 We also have Maya writing 544 00:23:50,375 --> 00:23:52,499 that goes right through that time period, 545 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:55,707 and we connect those historical events 546 00:23:55,708 --> 00:23:58,124 through carbon-14 dates. 547 00:23:58,125 --> 00:24:02,666 - [Tony] So no other culture seems to be missing 300 years. 548 00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:06,207 Then why did Aachen Cathedral look so advanced for its time? 549 00:24:06,208 --> 00:24:09,832 - When we look at what it is and what it represented, 550 00:24:09,833 --> 00:24:12,291 I think it makes sense in its context. 551 00:24:12,292 --> 00:24:16,874 Charlemagne had resources from the entire area of Europe. 552 00:24:16,875 --> 00:24:18,624 So even though there wasn't a tradition 553 00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:20,457 of this kind of architecture here, 554 00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:22,874 he took people from far, far away, 555 00:24:22,875 --> 00:24:25,707 and ideas and architecture from far away, 556 00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:28,749 and established his new kingdom there. 557 00:24:28,750 --> 00:24:32,832 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 558 00:24:32,833 --> 00:24:35,582 - Our verdict; debunked theory. 559 00:24:35,583 --> 00:24:36,874 Those three centuries 560 00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:40,041 are staying right where they've always been. 561 00:24:40,042 --> 00:24:42,249 So the old adage is true, 562 00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:44,083 none of us is getting any younger. 563 00:24:47,958 --> 00:24:48,042 - UFO cloaking. 564 00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:51,707 The idea that UFOs can hide or disappear to avoid detection 565 00:24:51,708 --> 00:24:55,041 has been a hot topic among believers for years. 566 00:24:55,042 --> 00:24:57,707 Is alien tech lurking in plain sight? 567 00:24:57,708 --> 00:25:01,708 And do two classic UFO photos provide the proof? 568 00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:04,957 March 22nd, 1966. 569 00:25:04,958 --> 00:25:08,832 It's a clear morning on Chalk Mountain in Climax, Colorado, 570 00:25:08,833 --> 00:25:11,541 and technicians Robert Rinker and Wilbur Johnson 571 00:25:11,542 --> 00:25:13,457 are taking the snowcat for a spin, 572 00:25:13,458 --> 00:25:15,124 [camera shutter snapping] snapping photographs 573 00:25:15,125 --> 00:25:17,082 around their weather station. 574 00:25:17,083 --> 00:25:20,041 As far as they remember, it's an uneventful morning, 575 00:25:20,042 --> 00:25:23,750 but when Rinker develops the film, he discovers this. 576 00:25:24,833 --> 00:25:26,957 An enormous saucer-shaped object 577 00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:29,499 appears to hover above the mountains. 578 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:31,166 It has two distinct parts, 579 00:25:31,167 --> 00:25:35,416 a wide-domed top and a ridge wrapping around the bottom. 580 00:25:35,417 --> 00:25:37,582 What's most peculiar about the object 581 00:25:37,583 --> 00:25:39,874 is that it appears to be translucent. 582 00:25:39,875 --> 00:25:42,791 - Coincidentally, this wasn't the only picture 583 00:25:42,792 --> 00:25:44,624 that was taken that year 584 00:25:44,625 --> 00:25:48,791 that showed some sort of translucent or transparent UFO. 585 00:25:48,792 --> 00:25:51,749 In fact, in Hillsdale County, Michigan, 586 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:55,124 there's another photograph of something similar. 587 00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:58,207 - [Tony] Just one day before the Colorado photo is snapped, 588 00:25:58,208 --> 00:26:01,041 the Hillsdale County Civil Defense Director, 589 00:26:01,042 --> 00:26:04,291 William van Horn, arrives at Hillsdale College 590 00:26:04,292 --> 00:26:06,291 to investigate strange lights 591 00:26:06,292 --> 00:26:08,541 spotted by a group of students. 592 00:26:08,542 --> 00:26:10,624 Their sighting is just the latest 593 00:26:10,625 --> 00:26:13,374 in a wave of sightings across Michigan. 594 00:26:13,375 --> 00:26:14,832 And when William arrives, 595 00:26:14,833 --> 00:26:18,207 he too sees the strange object in the sky. 596 00:26:18,208 --> 00:26:20,374 After that, it doesn't take long 597 00:26:20,375 --> 00:26:21,957 for the Air Force to get involved. 598 00:26:21,958 --> 00:26:24,457 - The Air Force conducted its own investigation. 599 00:26:24,458 --> 00:26:28,332 And surprise, surprise, they concluded it was swamp gas. 600 00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:30,624 So Mr. William van Horn 601 00:26:30,625 --> 00:26:33,374 decided to release this photograph 602 00:26:33,375 --> 00:26:37,041 in order to challenge the Air Force's official position. 603 00:26:37,042 --> 00:26:41,541 Van Horn's UFO picture was also translucent 604 00:26:41,542 --> 00:26:42,874 and saucer-shaped. 605 00:26:42,875 --> 00:26:44,041 [air whooshing] [enigmatic whirring] 606 00:26:44,042 --> 00:26:45,749 - [Tony] Could these translucent saucers 607 00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:49,625 be proof of a theory popular among UFO believers? 608 00:26:50,667 --> 00:26:51,916 - There was discussion whether or not 609 00:26:51,917 --> 00:26:53,666 this was evidence of cloaking, 610 00:26:53,667 --> 00:26:56,666 whether an alien was using some technology 611 00:26:56,667 --> 00:26:59,207 to camouflage itself within its surroundings. 612 00:26:59,208 --> 00:27:02,374 - [Tony] The idea is that UFOs have the technology 613 00:27:02,375 --> 00:27:06,832 to turn invisible, or cloak, to evade detection, 614 00:27:06,833 --> 00:27:08,207 which would explain 615 00:27:08,208 --> 00:27:10,874 why there are so few clear photos of them. 616 00:27:10,875 --> 00:27:13,624 - Could this be evidence that aliens have been hiding 617 00:27:13,625 --> 00:27:15,708 in plain sight this whole time? 618 00:27:16,375 --> 00:27:17,874 [air whooshing] 619 00:27:17,875 --> 00:27:20,541 - If aliens invisible to the human eye 620 00:27:20,542 --> 00:27:22,249 really are living among us, 621 00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:26,125 does that mean there could be one here or here? 622 00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:30,874 And do these photos offer proof that they've arrived? 623 00:27:30,875 --> 00:27:33,082 Our experts look into it. 624 00:27:33,083 --> 00:27:36,999 [enigmatic whirring] [text clacking] 625 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,707 Before we stampede towards some exotic theory, 626 00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:43,749 we ask if this UFO could just be a cloud. 627 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:45,582 - My first thought when I first saw this image 628 00:27:45,583 --> 00:27:48,416 is that we're looking at a lenticular cloud. 629 00:27:48,417 --> 00:27:51,374 Lenticular clouds often look like a contact lens, 630 00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:53,083 a concave shape. 631 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:56,082 - [Tony] Lenticular clouds form 632 00:27:56,083 --> 00:27:59,999 when wind pushes moist air up onto a mountaintop, 633 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,957 then, as the air cools, it forms a cloud. 634 00:28:03,958 --> 00:28:08,041 - Interestingly enough, the weather on March 22nd, 1966, 635 00:28:08,042 --> 00:28:11,707 showed that the lowest wind speeds across the country 636 00:28:11,708 --> 00:28:13,874 were right over Chalk Mountain. 637 00:28:13,875 --> 00:28:16,707 So I don't think the conditions were right 638 00:28:16,708 --> 00:28:18,667 for a lenticular cloud to form. 639 00:28:19,833 --> 00:28:21,832 - [Tony] Plus, a cloud would've been plain to see 640 00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:23,124 for the two eyewitnesses. 641 00:28:23,125 --> 00:28:26,207 So, could it be that an invisible UFO 642 00:28:26,208 --> 00:28:28,707 was hiding right before their very eyes 643 00:28:28,708 --> 00:28:30,541 only to be captured on film? 644 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:31,749 [camera shutter snapping] 645 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:34,541 - If a UFO is visible only in the UV, 646 00:28:34,542 --> 00:28:35,791 the ultraviolet spectrum, 647 00:28:35,792 --> 00:28:37,582 then we wouldn't see it with our eyes, 648 00:28:37,583 --> 00:28:39,166 we would only see it with a camera 649 00:28:39,167 --> 00:28:41,374 that can look at ultraviolet spectrum. 650 00:28:41,375 --> 00:28:44,957 But this photo was taken with a Zeiss Ikon camera, 651 00:28:44,958 --> 00:28:47,374 which wasn't any such type. 652 00:28:47,375 --> 00:28:49,624 - [Tony] Then what the heck is that thing 653 00:28:49,625 --> 00:28:52,541 hovering just outside the snowcat? 654 00:28:52,542 --> 00:28:55,332 Well, maybe it was inside. 655 00:28:55,333 --> 00:28:58,541 - This is very likely a reflection in the window 656 00:28:58,542 --> 00:29:00,041 through which the photo was taken. 657 00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:02,541 And if he's in a close-quarters cockpit 658 00:29:02,542 --> 00:29:04,332 of a snowcat or something, 659 00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:07,416 that dome light fixture is gonna be right over his head. 660 00:29:07,417 --> 00:29:09,082 And so, he's gonna probably take that picture 661 00:29:09,083 --> 00:29:11,624 through the window, lean toward the window, 662 00:29:11,625 --> 00:29:14,082 and then you're gonna see the virtual image of the cockpit, 663 00:29:14,083 --> 00:29:16,791 of light, in the background. 664 00:29:16,792 --> 00:29:19,249 - And we think something similar happened 665 00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:20,582 in the Michigan photo. 666 00:29:20,583 --> 00:29:21,791 - One thing that tells you 667 00:29:21,792 --> 00:29:24,082 that it's not something in the sky 668 00:29:24,083 --> 00:29:26,999 is the fact that the sun is exactly as far away 669 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,457 from the center as this is away from the center. 670 00:29:29,458 --> 00:29:33,624 That is one of the hallmarks of the photo artifact 671 00:29:33,625 --> 00:29:35,207 we call a lens flare, 672 00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:37,000 and that's what we're seeing here. 673 00:29:38,833 --> 00:29:42,874 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 674 00:29:42,875 --> 00:29:46,707 - Our verdict; a reflection and a lens flare. 675 00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:50,041 These weren't UFOs in hidden light spectrums, 676 00:29:50,042 --> 00:29:52,875 they were tricks of light in the spectrum we do see. 677 00:29:57,083 --> 00:29:58,541 We know whales are one of the smartest species 678 00:29:58,542 --> 00:29:59,874 on the planet, 679 00:29:59,875 --> 00:30:01,666 and they communicate with each other, 680 00:30:01,667 --> 00:30:05,166 but are they also trying to talk to us? 681 00:30:05,167 --> 00:30:08,000 And if so, are they doing it with math? 682 00:30:09,292 --> 00:30:11,166 January, 2024, 683 00:30:11,167 --> 00:30:14,166 wildlife photographer Piet van den Bemd 684 00:30:14,167 --> 00:30:17,166 is flying a drone over the dark Antarctic waters 685 00:30:17,167 --> 00:30:19,082 filming some humpback whales, 686 00:30:19,083 --> 00:30:21,791 when he captures something stunning. 687 00:30:21,792 --> 00:30:23,249 [intriguing dramatic music] 688 00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:27,041 Two formations of a spiral pattern emerge in the water 689 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:28,416 made up of little bubbles, 690 00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:31,874 slowly rising and then bursting at the surface. 691 00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:36,041 Then, in the center, the two aquatic artists emerge, 692 00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:38,916 breaching from the water and disrupting the pattern, 693 00:30:38,917 --> 00:30:39,917 before moving on. 694 00:30:41,208 --> 00:30:42,707 - I started to follow particular whales, 695 00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:45,707 and you can see the dive sequences, 696 00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:47,374 and then they blow bubbles. 697 00:30:47,375 --> 00:30:50,041 So these bubbles, they created that spiral. 698 00:30:50,042 --> 00:30:52,291 There were only two whales involved, 699 00:30:52,292 --> 00:30:54,832 and they just synchronized perfectly. 700 00:30:54,833 --> 00:30:56,166 And they did it only once, 701 00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:58,499 and I was lucky enough to be there. 702 00:30:58,500 --> 00:30:59,874 - Some have speculated 703 00:30:59,875 --> 00:31:02,082 the whales were trying to communicate 704 00:31:02,083 --> 00:31:04,624 using a mysterious mathematical formula 705 00:31:04,625 --> 00:31:06,916 called the Fibonacci sequence. 706 00:31:06,917 --> 00:31:09,707 It's named after the 13th century mathematician, 707 00:31:09,708 --> 00:31:14,457 Leonardo Fibonacci, who first noticed it, well, everywhere. 708 00:31:14,458 --> 00:31:16,291 [intriguing dramatic music] 709 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:21,333 - The sequence is often found in nature where each number 710 00:31:22,458 --> 00:31:24,332 is the sum of the two digits proceeding it. 711 00:31:24,333 --> 00:31:28,874 Imagine a tree branch splitting into two, 712 00:31:28,875 --> 00:31:32,874 and then into three, and then into five. 713 00:31:32,875 --> 00:31:34,207 - [Tony] And if you build a table 714 00:31:34,208 --> 00:31:36,416 with all these numbers in sequence, 715 00:31:36,417 --> 00:31:39,707 and draw a line through them, it forms a shape 716 00:31:39,708 --> 00:31:40,791 you'll recognize. 717 00:31:40,792 --> 00:31:42,791 - [Ken] The Fibonacci sequence 718 00:31:42,792 --> 00:31:44,832 looks very much like a spiral. 719 00:31:44,833 --> 00:31:47,041 These types of spirals are well represented 720 00:31:47,042 --> 00:31:48,374 in the natural world. 721 00:31:48,375 --> 00:31:51,041 We can see them in the shells of the nautilus, 722 00:31:51,042 --> 00:31:53,207 in certain types of snails, 723 00:31:53,208 --> 00:31:56,374 and most certainly in different types of plant life. 724 00:31:56,375 --> 00:31:58,249 - [Tony] This has led people to speculate 725 00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:00,957 that the Fibonacci sequence is a sign 726 00:32:00,958 --> 00:32:02,666 that the universe is connected, 727 00:32:02,667 --> 00:32:06,749 and that God or some other divine force is behind it. 728 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:09,082 Are the whales tapped into that, 729 00:32:09,083 --> 00:32:10,332 and trying to tell us something? 730 00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:12,541 - It really begs the question, 731 00:32:12,542 --> 00:32:15,332 are these animals trying to communicate with us? 732 00:32:15,333 --> 00:32:16,999 Perhaps they're trying to warn us 733 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,041 about pollution in the Earth's oceans 734 00:32:19,042 --> 00:32:21,374 or other natural catastrophes. 735 00:32:21,375 --> 00:32:23,999 Certainly, the Fibonacci sequence 736 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,791 would be recognized by all life forms 737 00:32:26,792 --> 00:32:28,916 as a universal code or language. 738 00:32:28,917 --> 00:32:31,374 [water splashing] 739 00:32:31,375 --> 00:32:32,791 [static crackling] 740 00:32:32,792 --> 00:32:34,374 - Right before the disastrous 741 00:32:34,375 --> 00:32:37,291 Indian ocean tsunami hit in 2004, 742 00:32:37,292 --> 00:32:41,082 several elephants in Sri Lanka refused to go near the shore, 743 00:32:41,083 --> 00:32:43,541 and some even fled to higher ground. 744 00:32:43,542 --> 00:32:45,707 Locals believe that they actually sensed 745 00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:47,416 the devastation to come. 746 00:32:47,417 --> 00:32:50,249 Could these whales be sensing something too? 747 00:32:50,250 --> 00:32:53,374 And are they trying to warn us? 748 00:32:53,375 --> 00:32:55,249 Let's see what our experts think. 749 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:59,624 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 750 00:32:59,625 --> 00:33:03,624 First things first, can whales actually talk to us? 751 00:33:03,625 --> 00:33:06,041 The answer is, sort of. 752 00:33:06,042 --> 00:33:07,499 - A recent study has shown 753 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:09,916 that there is potential for some kind of dialogue 754 00:33:09,917 --> 00:33:12,541 between humans and whales. 755 00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,624 That being said, we initiated that conversation... 756 00:33:15,625 --> 00:33:16,832 - Hello. [orca whistling] 757 00:33:16,833 --> 00:33:18,499 - [Orca] Hello. 758 00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:19,874 - And they responded. 759 00:33:19,875 --> 00:33:22,082 We don't know at what level 760 00:33:22,083 --> 00:33:26,082 that was actually a conversation versus mimicry. 761 00:33:26,083 --> 00:33:27,374 - [Tony] What about the idea 762 00:33:27,375 --> 00:33:29,874 that they're using the Fibonacci sequence here 763 00:33:29,875 --> 00:33:31,333 to communicate through math? 764 00:33:32,083 --> 00:33:33,707 Well, it turns out 765 00:33:33,708 --> 00:33:37,041 this may not be a Fibonacci spiral after all. 766 00:33:37,042 --> 00:33:40,207 - The Fibonacci spiral is nonlinear, 767 00:33:40,208 --> 00:33:42,207 it's a logarithmic spiral. 768 00:33:42,208 --> 00:33:46,707 That means it keeps expanding more with each turn. 769 00:33:46,708 --> 00:33:48,374 If we look at the spiral 770 00:33:48,375 --> 00:33:52,374 that's being generated by these whales here, 771 00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:56,332 the bubbles are approximately equally spaced. 772 00:33:56,333 --> 00:33:59,041 While this is a beautiful spiral, 773 00:33:59,042 --> 00:34:01,874 it is not a Fibonacci spiral. 774 00:34:01,875 --> 00:34:04,416 - [Tony] So what are we looking at? 775 00:34:04,417 --> 00:34:07,707 - What we're seeing here is known as bubble net feeding. 776 00:34:07,708 --> 00:34:09,166 What the animals are doing 777 00:34:09,167 --> 00:34:12,207 are creating an increasingly narrow set of circles 778 00:34:12,208 --> 00:34:14,541 that herd a group of fish together 779 00:34:14,542 --> 00:34:17,416 so that when they reach the surface of the water, 780 00:34:17,417 --> 00:34:20,166 they can essentially engulf all of them at once, 781 00:34:20,167 --> 00:34:22,291 multiple whales work together 782 00:34:22,292 --> 00:34:24,624 to create a net out of bubbles. 783 00:34:24,625 --> 00:34:27,499 And the net that they're creating looks like a spiral 784 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,207 on the surface. 785 00:34:29,208 --> 00:34:31,041 This footage is pretty incredible 786 00:34:31,042 --> 00:34:33,207 in the marine biology world. 787 00:34:33,208 --> 00:34:35,041 It's only in the last decade or so 788 00:34:35,042 --> 00:34:37,374 that our technology, like drones, 789 00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:41,082 have been able to actually capture above ground shots 790 00:34:41,083 --> 00:34:43,874 of these animals in doing these behaviors. 791 00:34:43,875 --> 00:34:45,499 [water splashing] 792 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:49,541 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 793 00:34:49,542 --> 00:34:52,499 - Our verdict; we agree with Shea Steingass. 794 00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:56,374 What we are seeing here are bubble net formations. 795 00:34:56,375 --> 00:34:59,291 One study found that humpbacks even tailor their nets 796 00:34:59,292 --> 00:35:01,416 depending on the type of food they're eating. 797 00:35:01,417 --> 00:35:05,291 And while not as extraordinary as sending a coded message, 798 00:35:05,292 --> 00:35:08,458 this is a phenomenon that's extremely rare to see. 799 00:35:12,208 --> 00:35:13,541 - What if there were an extraterrestrial technology 800 00:35:13,542 --> 00:35:16,499 that could harness the power of a star? 801 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,791 In 1960, Physicist Freeman Dyson theorized 802 00:35:19,792 --> 00:35:23,707 that advanced aliens might create mega structures 803 00:35:23,708 --> 00:35:27,374 to surround stars and capture their energy. 804 00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:31,208 Are a set of deep space photos proof it's already happened? 805 00:35:32,208 --> 00:35:35,375 May, 2024, London, England, 806 00:35:36,375 --> 00:35:38,207 an international team of scientists 807 00:35:38,208 --> 00:35:40,249 releases a groundbreaking study 808 00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:42,332 in the Royal Astronomical Journal 809 00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:45,332 naming their endeavor Project Hephaistos. 810 00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:48,707 They sifted through decades of research on millions of stars 811 00:35:48,708 --> 00:35:52,374 in search of evidence to prove Dyson's theory. 812 00:35:52,375 --> 00:35:54,332 And they found this. 813 00:35:54,333 --> 00:35:56,957 You're looking at infrared readings 814 00:35:56,958 --> 00:35:59,166 from deep space telescopes. 815 00:35:59,167 --> 00:36:01,332 The dense black dots stand out, 816 00:36:01,333 --> 00:36:05,249 because they are giving off massive amounts of infrared heat 817 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:06,667 from an unknown source. 818 00:36:07,792 --> 00:36:09,707 The researchers say that heat 819 00:36:09,708 --> 00:36:12,249 could be one of these Dyson spheres 820 00:36:12,250 --> 00:36:15,041 harvesting the power of a star. 821 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:17,041 - Freeman Dyson initially proposed 822 00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:20,041 that it was a large structure 823 00:36:20,042 --> 00:36:22,332 that a very advanced civilization 824 00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:25,541 could build around their host star. 825 00:36:25,542 --> 00:36:28,749 But as his theory developed and progressed, 826 00:36:28,750 --> 00:36:31,249 Dyson postulated that perhaps a Dyson sphere 827 00:36:31,250 --> 00:36:34,166 doesn't necessarily need to be one structure, 828 00:36:34,167 --> 00:36:39,249 but rather a series of smaller objects that surround the sun 829 00:36:39,250 --> 00:36:41,707 that are connected via some sort of network, 830 00:36:41,708 --> 00:36:45,707 and are able to collect energy from that sun. 831 00:36:45,708 --> 00:36:49,499 - [Tony] Now the sun emits as much energy in 15 minutes 832 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:52,749 as the entire Earth consumes in a year. 833 00:36:52,750 --> 00:36:56,332 And any technology that could harness such energy 834 00:36:56,333 --> 00:36:59,458 would leave telltale clues in the infrared spectrum. 835 00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:02,707 - These are what scientists call technosignatures. 836 00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:04,457 They're not really sure what they are, 837 00:37:04,458 --> 00:37:06,291 but the reason why they look 838 00:37:06,292 --> 00:37:08,374 for these excessive infrared emissions 839 00:37:08,375 --> 00:37:11,041 is because any Dyson sphere 840 00:37:11,042 --> 00:37:12,541 is gonna start generating a lot of heat, 841 00:37:12,542 --> 00:37:14,249 because it's soaking up solar energy. 842 00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:16,249 Think of it like a car engine. 843 00:37:16,250 --> 00:37:18,499 The harder you run a car engine, 844 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:21,041 it's gonna generate more heat. 845 00:37:21,042 --> 00:37:22,458 [static crackling] 846 00:37:22,583 --> 00:37:24,874 - Fresh off the groundbreaking discovery from England, 847 00:37:24,875 --> 00:37:29,291 a second study from Italy found a whopping 53 stars 848 00:37:29,292 --> 00:37:32,582 showing similar potential technosignatures. 849 00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:35,207 Did this new research reveal definitive proof 850 00:37:35,208 --> 00:37:39,374 of Dyson spheres and advanced alien life? 851 00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:41,707 We turned to our experts to find out. 852 00:37:41,708 --> 00:37:45,832 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 853 00:37:45,833 --> 00:37:49,582 First, is something natural heating up around these stars 854 00:37:49,583 --> 00:37:52,541 that would explain this extreme heat signature? 855 00:37:52,542 --> 00:37:56,249 - It's possible that we are observing 856 00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:58,707 an excess infrared radiation 857 00:37:58,708 --> 00:38:02,624 because of discs of dust and debris. 858 00:38:02,625 --> 00:38:04,874 These discs form around stars 859 00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:08,124 when stars are forming planetary systems. 860 00:38:08,125 --> 00:38:09,291 And they're disc-shaped, 861 00:38:09,292 --> 00:38:11,624 because they tend to get flattened 862 00:38:11,625 --> 00:38:16,457 because of the angular momentum of stars as they rotate. 863 00:38:16,458 --> 00:38:21,458 This can cause a heating that generates infrared radiation 864 00:38:22,542 --> 00:38:24,791 that we can observe with our infrared telescopes. 865 00:38:24,792 --> 00:38:26,916 - [Tony] But there's a problem with that theory, 866 00:38:26,917 --> 00:38:29,291 because the stars in this study 867 00:38:29,292 --> 00:38:32,291 are identified as red dwarf stars. 868 00:38:32,292 --> 00:38:35,207 And that's key, because red dwarf stars 869 00:38:35,208 --> 00:38:38,082 rarely exhibit the kind of debris discs. 870 00:38:38,083 --> 00:38:40,457 Professor Szydagis described. 871 00:38:40,458 --> 00:38:42,874 But there may be another explanation. 872 00:38:42,875 --> 00:38:46,082 - Maybe we're looking at a galaxy 873 00:38:46,083 --> 00:38:49,374 that is hiding behind this star, 874 00:38:49,375 --> 00:38:52,374 and the infrared radiation that we're picking up 875 00:38:52,375 --> 00:38:53,916 is from a galaxy. 876 00:38:53,917 --> 00:38:57,541 It gets confusing because a picture is flat, 877 00:38:57,542 --> 00:39:01,707 a picture is two-dimensional, reality is three-dimensional, 878 00:39:01,708 --> 00:39:06,625 and therefore what could be masquerading as a Dyson sphere 879 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:11,958 is really a galaxy hiding behind your star. 880 00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:14,666 - [Tony] Researchers 881 00:39:14,667 --> 00:39:17,166 at the American Astronomical Society agree, 882 00:39:17,167 --> 00:39:20,082 arguing that the heat in these images are a false positive 883 00:39:20,083 --> 00:39:23,042 resulting from the star's alignment with distant galaxies. 884 00:39:24,292 --> 00:39:27,707 In other words, it's all a matter of perspective. 885 00:39:27,708 --> 00:39:31,499 The telescope that's picking up a so-called Dyson sphere 886 00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:33,666 might actually be looking at a star 887 00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:37,207 with a galaxy way out in the distance behind it. 888 00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:38,749 When they're aligned, 889 00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:41,749 the telescope reads it as just one very bright signature. 890 00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:43,916 - And maybe this could explain 891 00:39:43,917 --> 00:39:48,249 why we're seeing some excess amount of infrared radiation 892 00:39:48,250 --> 00:39:49,791 in the data. 893 00:39:49,792 --> 00:39:53,291 - [Tony] Does that mean that these aren't Dyson spheres? 894 00:39:53,292 --> 00:39:56,082 - I think even from a theoretical perspective, 895 00:39:56,083 --> 00:39:58,957 the concept of a Dyson sphere is very shaky. 896 00:39:58,958 --> 00:40:02,832 If a Dyson sphere is going to be measurable at a distance, 897 00:40:02,833 --> 00:40:04,499 because of its infrared signature 898 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:06,582 from the other side of the Dyson sphere, 899 00:40:06,583 --> 00:40:09,249 that means it's probably not very efficient then 900 00:40:09,250 --> 00:40:10,874 at holding all that energy. 901 00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:12,707 And even if there are civilizations out there 902 00:40:12,708 --> 00:40:14,874 millions and billions of years older than us, 903 00:40:14,875 --> 00:40:19,041 I can think of a lot better ways of harnessing energy 904 00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:21,375 than the construction of a Dyson sphere. 905 00:40:22,417 --> 00:40:23,707 - [Tony] But despite some skepticism, 906 00:40:23,708 --> 00:40:26,249 Dyson spheres remain on NASA's list 907 00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:28,374 of potential technosignatures 908 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:32,332 to help identify extraterrestrial civilizations. 909 00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:36,582 [enigmatic wailing] [text clacking] 910 00:40:36,583 --> 00:40:38,999 Our verdict; galaxies. 911 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,874 Professor Szydagis and Kaku both say these infrared readings 912 00:40:42,875 --> 00:40:46,499 are probably not catching a Dyson sphere in action. 913 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:48,666 So, for now, the search for intelligent life 914 00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:51,582 and unlimited energy continues, 915 00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:54,791 tonight's show, however, has come to an end. 916 00:40:54,792 --> 00:40:56,374 Thank you so much for watching, 917 00:40:56,375 --> 00:40:59,291 and remember to keep those cameras rolling. 918 00:40:59,292 --> 00:41:02,875 [intriguing dramatic music]