1 00:00:02,292 --> 00:00:03,792 - Tonight on "The Proof Is Out There." 2 00:00:03,917 --> 00:00:05,917 Another leaked government UFO video, 3 00:00:06,042 --> 00:00:07,792 this time from southern Arizona. 4 00:00:07,875 --> 00:00:09,958 - When I opened it I realized, wow, 5 00:00:10,042 --> 00:00:11,625 this is like the leak of all leaks. 6 00:00:11,750 --> 00:00:14,458 - [Tony] A strange winged animal caught on camera in Bali. 7 00:00:14,583 --> 00:00:16,875 - It has these tentacle-like structures 8 00:00:17,042 --> 00:00:19,667 coming off its body, as well as wings. 9 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:23,000 - [Tony] Is it connected to this legendary Indonesian creature? 10 00:00:23,083 --> 00:00:24,500 - That's pretty freaky. 11 00:00:24,625 --> 00:00:26,708 - [Tony] A man in India able to dip his hands 12 00:00:26,875 --> 00:00:28,500 in boiling oil and feel no pain. 13 00:00:28,625 --> 00:00:31,792 - The human can will himself to do something 14 00:00:31,917 --> 00:00:33,667 that seems almost superhuman. 15 00:00:33,792 --> 00:00:36,500 - [Tony] And meet the man who claimed he killed Bigfoot. 16 00:00:36,625 --> 00:00:39,958 - I jumped out of the tent with my firearm 17 00:00:40,083 --> 00:00:43,542 and I shot at him a couple of times. 18 00:00:45,208 --> 00:00:46,208 - [Tony] He says he has the proof, 19 00:00:46,333 --> 00:00:48,000 but what will our experts say? 20 00:00:52,792 --> 00:00:54,125 Around the globe are videos- 21 00:00:54,208 --> 00:00:56,208 - [Woman] What the heck is this? 22 00:00:56,333 --> 00:00:57,708 - [Man] It's moving. 23 00:00:57,833 --> 00:01:00,625 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 24 00:01:00,750 --> 00:01:03,042 (staticky buzzing) 25 00:01:06,375 --> 00:01:08,667 - [Man] Is it some kind of unidentified object? 26 00:01:08,792 --> 00:01:11,583 - [Woman] Are we looking at something that's CGI? 27 00:01:11,708 --> 00:01:12,500 - [Tony] What are they? 28 00:01:12,625 --> 00:01:14,667 - [Man] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 29 00:01:14,792 --> 00:01:18,042 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 30 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,875 - I'm Tony Harris and as a journalist 31 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,333 for more than 30 years, 32 00:01:23,458 --> 00:01:26,292 I've followed the facts where they take me. 33 00:01:26,417 --> 00:01:28,542 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 34 00:01:28,667 --> 00:01:31,333 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 35 00:01:32,375 --> 00:01:35,208 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 36 00:01:35,333 --> 00:01:38,292 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 37 00:01:38,417 --> 00:01:41,042 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 38 00:01:41,208 --> 00:01:43,167 - This video was clearly faked. 39 00:01:43,250 --> 00:01:45,208 - The proof starts now. 40 00:01:46,125 --> 00:01:49,542 (dramatic theme music) 41 00:01:53,375 --> 00:01:55,917 Good evening and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There." 42 00:01:56,042 --> 00:01:57,750 Last year, the Office of the Director 43 00:01:57,875 --> 00:02:00,667 of National Intelligence issued a much discussed report 44 00:02:00,833 --> 00:02:03,000 claiming that the US military has documented 45 00:02:03,167 --> 00:02:08,000 144 cases of UAPs, unidentified aerial phenomena. 46 00:02:08,167 --> 00:02:10,417 Since then, the UFO community has been searching 47 00:02:10,542 --> 00:02:12,500 for documentation of others 48 00:02:12,583 --> 00:02:15,542 and maybe, just maybe, they found some. 49 00:02:16,375 --> 00:02:18,875 It's November 23, 2019. 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,208 Not far from the southern border between Arizona and Mexico, 51 00:02:22,333 --> 00:02:24,083 Department of Homeland Security agents 52 00:02:24,208 --> 00:02:26,500 are flying an RC-26 surveillance aircraft 53 00:02:26,583 --> 00:02:28,500 on the hunt for drug smugglers 54 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:31,583 when suddenly their infrared cameras capture this. 55 00:02:34,333 --> 00:02:36,583 Let's zoom in for a closer look. 56 00:02:36,708 --> 00:02:39,833 The strange object has a solid body that tapers at one end 57 00:02:39,958 --> 00:02:43,083 with what looks like a smaller circle above the other end. 58 00:02:43,208 --> 00:02:45,333 Its odd shape has an uncanny resemblance 59 00:02:45,458 --> 00:02:47,792 to everyone's favorite bath toy 60 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:51,458 and instantly becomes known as the rubber duck UFO. 61 00:02:52,792 --> 00:02:56,042 In September 2021, UFO investigator Andy Marcial 62 00:02:56,167 --> 00:02:57,875 receives the footage from a secret source 63 00:02:58,042 --> 00:02:59,375 at the Department of Homeland Security. 64 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:01,792 - When I opened it, I realized, wow, 65 00:03:01,917 --> 00:03:03,583 this is like the leak of all leaks. 66 00:03:03,708 --> 00:03:05,875 I've seen many drawings, I've seen balloon footage. 67 00:03:06,042 --> 00:03:07,667 This is what I do for a living. 68 00:03:07,792 --> 00:03:09,000 I do my due diligence 69 00:03:09,125 --> 00:03:11,542 and I believe it's a legitimate UAP or UFO. 70 00:03:11,667 --> 00:03:13,542 - [Tony] Journalist MJ Banias says the video 71 00:03:13,708 --> 00:03:16,500 took everyone by surprise when it first landed online. 72 00:03:16,625 --> 00:03:18,083 - It is shaped like a rubber duck. 73 00:03:18,208 --> 00:03:19,417 This is definitely bizarre, 74 00:03:19,542 --> 00:03:21,667 but using the information on screen, 75 00:03:21,833 --> 00:03:25,500 we can deduce it seems to be around six feet in length, 76 00:03:25,625 --> 00:03:28,167 so it's quite a small object. 77 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:30,542 - [Tony] The video shows the rubber duck flying 78 00:03:30,708 --> 00:03:32,500 for nearly an hour and because the footage 79 00:03:32,625 --> 00:03:35,042 comes from an official federal agency, 80 00:03:35,208 --> 00:03:36,542 Banias says the UFO community 81 00:03:36,708 --> 00:03:40,292 is taking this rubber duck very seriously. 82 00:03:40,375 --> 00:03:41,708 - What's different about this video 83 00:03:41,833 --> 00:03:44,667 is the other videos that the United States government 84 00:03:44,750 --> 00:03:48,667 has released concerning unidentified aerial phenomena 85 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:49,417 is its length. 86 00:03:49,542 --> 00:03:51,542 It's much easier to pull data 87 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:54,333 out of an hour long video to figure out 88 00:03:54,458 --> 00:03:57,083 what we're looking at versus a very short video, 89 00:03:57,208 --> 00:03:59,875 for example, in the Tic Tac UFO video. 90 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,500 - But while no one knows yet what the rubber duck is, 91 00:04:02,667 --> 00:04:04,333 what we do know is that this footage 92 00:04:04,417 --> 00:04:06,750 was not meant for the public to see. 93 00:04:08,375 --> 00:04:10,042 There's another thing that distinguishes 94 00:04:10,208 --> 00:04:12,333 this government UFO video from all the other 95 00:04:12,458 --> 00:04:15,417 headline-making incidents of the recent past. 96 00:04:15,542 --> 00:04:18,708 Those military encounters all took place over water 97 00:04:18,875 --> 00:04:21,833 and were observed by navy planes or warships. 98 00:04:21,917 --> 00:04:25,667 This takes place over land, on the border no less. 99 00:04:25,792 --> 00:04:29,167 So does this signal a new wave of UFOs 100 00:04:29,292 --> 00:04:31,208 interacting with the government? 101 00:04:31,375 --> 00:04:32,792 We're gonna turn this over to our experts 102 00:04:32,875 --> 00:04:37,083 to see if this rubber duck UFO is all it's quacked up to be. 103 00:04:37,208 --> 00:04:39,625 (tense music) 104 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,750 First, we asked Rich Hoffman 105 00:04:42,875 --> 00:04:45,125 of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies 106 00:04:45,208 --> 00:04:46,667 to examine the footage. 107 00:04:46,750 --> 00:04:48,500 - But one of the things we're finding out 108 00:04:48,625 --> 00:04:51,292 about UFO study is that basically, 109 00:04:51,375 --> 00:04:54,250 shape doesn't really seem to matter much. 110 00:04:54,375 --> 00:04:56,458 We've had objects that are discs, some are triangles, 111 00:04:56,583 --> 00:04:59,250 some are cigar shaped, cylindrical. 112 00:04:59,375 --> 00:05:00,958 - [Tony] But while UFO shapes can be different, 113 00:05:01,042 --> 00:05:03,625 Hoffman notes that what typically defines a UFO 114 00:05:03,750 --> 00:05:06,000 are common behavioral characteristics, 115 00:05:06,167 --> 00:05:07,500 including hypersonic speed, 116 00:05:07,583 --> 00:05:09,875 cloaking and trans-medium travel. 117 00:05:11,042 --> 00:05:13,375 - This one didn't seem to make any pronounced 118 00:05:13,542 --> 00:05:14,833 types of beat changes, 119 00:05:14,958 --> 00:05:17,375 that we would say instantaneous acceleration. 120 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:19,542 It didn't stop in the air and hover. 121 00:05:19,667 --> 00:05:21,917 It didn't do the things that you might typically 122 00:05:22,042 --> 00:05:23,875 see in a lot of UFO cases. 123 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,375 - [Tony] So if the rubber duck is a conventional object, 124 00:05:26,542 --> 00:05:28,167 could it be an airplane? 125 00:05:28,250 --> 00:05:29,583 Hoffman says the shape of the object 126 00:05:29,708 --> 00:05:32,500 and the thermal nature of the camera offer clues. 127 00:05:33,625 --> 00:05:34,958 - The temperature of the aircraft 128 00:05:35,083 --> 00:05:37,792 would not be the solid white that you see on that image. 129 00:05:37,917 --> 00:05:40,208 You would see the variations in terms of color 130 00:05:40,375 --> 00:05:43,292 and in fact in the very beginning of the video, 131 00:05:43,417 --> 00:05:45,000 you could see where the heat is maybe coming out 132 00:05:45,083 --> 00:05:46,667 of an exhaust part of that engine 133 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:48,625 and that's what it would've looked. 134 00:05:48,708 --> 00:05:51,000 - [Tony] If a conventional aircraft is off the table, 135 00:05:51,125 --> 00:05:52,583 could it be another kind of machine? 136 00:05:52,708 --> 00:05:55,542 We take that question to aviation expert, Tim McMillan. 137 00:05:55,667 --> 00:05:57,917 - We know there's a lot of drone traffic 138 00:05:58,042 --> 00:06:00,250 that comes across the southern border in the United States, 139 00:06:00,375 --> 00:06:01,958 particularly with drug trafficking. 140 00:06:02,083 --> 00:06:03,500 Some type of illegal substance 141 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:06,333 that's being attached to a larger drone above it. 142 00:06:06,458 --> 00:06:08,208 - [Tony] The cheap cost and low skill level 143 00:06:08,333 --> 00:06:10,583 needed to operate makes drones a common tool 144 00:06:10,708 --> 00:06:13,917 used by cartel members to move drugs across the border. 145 00:06:14,042 --> 00:06:17,167 - We should be able to see the characteristics of a drone. 146 00:06:17,333 --> 00:06:18,792 If this is a quad copter drone, 147 00:06:18,917 --> 00:06:20,958 we should see those rotors spinning. 148 00:06:21,083 --> 00:06:22,208 We never see that. 149 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:24,667 Based on just the totality of the factors, 150 00:06:24,792 --> 00:06:26,542 I don't have a good answer. 151 00:06:26,708 --> 00:06:28,375 - [Tony] Next we ask science writer 152 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:29,667 Mick West to take a look. 153 00:06:29,833 --> 00:06:32,708 - We can use the data from this plane 154 00:06:32,875 --> 00:06:35,708 to measure how far it goes over the course of the video. 155 00:06:35,875 --> 00:06:38,500 It actually only moves about eight to 10 miles 156 00:06:38,625 --> 00:06:41,667 over the course of the entire 20, 30 minutes 157 00:06:41,792 --> 00:06:43,667 that it's tracking the object. 158 00:06:43,792 --> 00:06:46,875 It seemed like it was moving 120 miles per hour, 159 00:06:47,042 --> 00:06:49,875 but since it only moves around eight miles 160 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,667 in like 30 minutes, 161 00:06:51,792 --> 00:06:54,000 it really means it's moving less than 20 miles per hour. 162 00:06:54,167 --> 00:06:57,500 Which is, you know, not much faster than normal wind speed. 163 00:06:57,583 --> 00:07:00,375 So we know that this object 164 00:07:00,542 --> 00:07:02,417 probably isn't moving very fast at all. 165 00:07:02,542 --> 00:07:04,167 It doesn't change direction, 166 00:07:04,292 --> 00:07:06,375 it doesn't seem to change altitude. 167 00:07:06,500 --> 00:07:08,083 It's just flying in a straight line. 168 00:07:08,208 --> 00:07:10,417 - [Tony] Mick adds up all these individual factors 169 00:07:10,542 --> 00:07:12,750 and arrives at a hypothesis. 170 00:07:12,875 --> 00:07:15,167 - One possibility is this rubber duck shape 171 00:07:15,292 --> 00:07:17,500 is actually a bunch of balloons, 172 00:07:17,625 --> 00:07:19,375 with some of them at the bottom of the body 173 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:22,333 and then the upper one is the the head. 174 00:07:22,458 --> 00:07:24,542 It might just be some party somewhere 175 00:07:24,708 --> 00:07:25,750 and they just blew in the wind 176 00:07:25,875 --> 00:07:27,250 and this is what we ended up with. 177 00:07:27,375 --> 00:07:31,292 So I think it's probably not some kind of alien spaceship. 178 00:07:31,375 --> 00:07:32,833 - [Tony] Ultimately the video ends 179 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,625 with the rubber duck still flying, 180 00:07:34,708 --> 00:07:38,542 leaving Mick to admit that his theory is just that, a theory. 181 00:07:38,667 --> 00:07:40,667 - We don't know how this story ends. 182 00:07:40,792 --> 00:07:42,417 All we have is this section of the video. 183 00:07:42,542 --> 00:07:44,250 We don't know what happens after that. 184 00:07:44,375 --> 00:07:45,500 So there's still a mystery 185 00:07:45,625 --> 00:07:47,083 as to what happened after this video. 186 00:07:47,208 --> 00:07:49,417 (tense music) 187 00:07:50,542 --> 00:07:52,000 - Our verdict? 188 00:07:52,125 --> 00:07:55,042 While Mick's analysis of the balloon hypothesis has merit, 189 00:07:55,208 --> 00:07:57,292 the video doesn't give us a clear enough image 190 00:07:57,375 --> 00:07:59,083 to make that call with confidence. 191 00:07:59,208 --> 00:08:00,333 Whatever the image is, 192 00:08:00,417 --> 00:08:02,833 we know border patrol agents filmed it 193 00:08:02,958 --> 00:08:05,417 until their time in the air came to an end. 194 00:08:05,542 --> 00:08:06,667 They probably wouldn't have done that 195 00:08:06,750 --> 00:08:08,500 for something commonplace. 196 00:08:08,583 --> 00:08:10,792 So we're gonna call this a genuine UFO for now 197 00:08:10,875 --> 00:08:13,667 until it's properly identified. 198 00:08:13,833 --> 00:08:16,000 Meanwhile, if any other citizen journalists out there 199 00:08:16,125 --> 00:08:18,875 come in contact with more official government footage 200 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,792 of unidentified objects, please send it to us for analysis. 201 00:08:24,167 --> 00:08:27,708 Now let's hop scotch the globe from Arizona to Indonesia. 202 00:08:27,833 --> 00:08:29,708 Question for you, are you the person 203 00:08:29,833 --> 00:08:32,000 who needs help killing bugs or the person 204 00:08:32,125 --> 00:08:34,542 who gets called to do the dirty work? 205 00:08:34,667 --> 00:08:36,583 In my house, I'm usually that guy. 206 00:08:36,708 --> 00:08:38,667 But if I was called in to whack the thing 207 00:08:38,833 --> 00:08:41,542 in this next clip with a rolled up magazine, 208 00:08:42,708 --> 00:08:44,667 I might have to call for reinforcements. 209 00:08:46,375 --> 00:08:49,250 Bali, Indonesia, June 2019. 210 00:08:49,375 --> 00:08:52,292 Homeowner Hari Toae is relaxing one night with some guests 211 00:08:52,417 --> 00:08:54,167 when they receive an unexpected visit 212 00:08:54,292 --> 00:08:58,167 from something that appears to be absolutely monstrous. 213 00:09:04,250 --> 00:09:07,125 (indistinct audio from television) 214 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,208 - The footage shows a creature 215 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:14,000 as it hangs from a light fixture. 216 00:09:14,125 --> 00:09:16,375 It appears to have an insect-like abdomen 217 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:17,750 with small legs. 218 00:09:17,875 --> 00:09:20,375 As it clings to the rod, alien-like tentacles 219 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:22,667 slowly probe like searching fingers. 220 00:09:22,792 --> 00:09:24,333 Okay, we're gonna play a little show and tell 221 00:09:24,458 --> 00:09:25,458 with a telestrator here. 222 00:09:25,542 --> 00:09:26,708 What do we have here? 223 00:09:26,875 --> 00:09:30,583 Two, three, four, five, six, seven, 224 00:09:30,708 --> 00:09:31,833 there's a little one here. 225 00:09:31,958 --> 00:09:33,500 Legs? 226 00:09:33,625 --> 00:09:34,667 Tentacles? 227 00:09:34,792 --> 00:09:36,833 Is this the head here? 228 00:09:36,958 --> 00:09:38,375 Am I looking at the front of it? 229 00:09:38,542 --> 00:09:40,292 Am I looking at the back of it? 230 00:09:40,417 --> 00:09:42,542 What am I looking at here? 231 00:09:42,667 --> 00:09:45,583 Are these wings? Is it right side up? 232 00:09:45,708 --> 00:09:48,667 Is it upside down? I can't figure it out. 233 00:09:48,792 --> 00:09:52,667 The creature just hangs there, its tentacles pulsating. 234 00:09:52,833 --> 00:09:54,208 Field researcher Ken Gerhard 235 00:09:54,333 --> 00:09:56,917 helps us make sense of this off the wall creature. 236 00:09:57,042 --> 00:09:59,333 Could it be the stuff of local legend? 237 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:01,333 - I'm kind of shocked and freaked out. 238 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:05,167 It has these tentacle-like structures coming off its body 239 00:10:05,250 --> 00:10:06,708 as well as wings 240 00:10:06,875 --> 00:10:08,750 and I wouldn't expect to see any animal 241 00:10:08,875 --> 00:10:10,000 that would have both. 242 00:10:10,167 --> 00:10:11,417 That's pretty freaky. 243 00:10:11,542 --> 00:10:12,917 Well, according to the local folklore, 244 00:10:13,042 --> 00:10:16,167 the pelesit or palasik is described 245 00:10:16,250 --> 00:10:19,792 as a shape shifting spirit that often takes the form 246 00:10:19,875 --> 00:10:22,792 of a blood sucking cricket or grass hopper. 247 00:10:22,917 --> 00:10:24,833 Ominously, the pelesit is said to enter 248 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:27,583 the mouths of its victims tail first. 249 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,417 - [Tony] Gerhard also wonders if radioactivity 250 00:10:32,542 --> 00:10:34,875 could be the cause of this strange beast. 251 00:10:35,042 --> 00:10:38,000 - This bug could be the result of some type of mutation 252 00:10:38,083 --> 00:10:40,542 caused by radioactive contamination. 253 00:10:40,708 --> 00:10:42,583 And in fact, there was a property 254 00:10:42,708 --> 00:10:45,292 outside of Jakarta, Indonesia that was found 255 00:10:45,375 --> 00:10:46,958 to be contaminated 256 00:10:47,083 --> 00:10:50,833 by a radioactive isotope called Caesium-137, 257 00:10:50,958 --> 00:10:53,208 the same amount of radioactive contamination 258 00:10:53,375 --> 00:10:54,875 that was recorded at the site 259 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,083 of the Fukushima nuclear disaster. 260 00:10:58,250 --> 00:10:59,917 - [Tony] Gerhard then raises the possibility 261 00:11:00,042 --> 00:11:01,625 of another kind of mutation, 262 00:11:01,708 --> 00:11:04,167 this one hidden in a creature's genetic code. 263 00:11:04,292 --> 00:11:06,583 - So within every species on the planet, 264 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:08,750 there are exceptional individuals 265 00:11:08,875 --> 00:11:12,083 that are the result of different types of mutations, 266 00:11:12,208 --> 00:11:15,000 and one of these mutations is known as an atavism, 267 00:11:15,083 --> 00:11:18,000 which is essentially an ancient physical characteristic 268 00:11:18,125 --> 00:11:21,917 or trait that will resurface in a modern species. 269 00:11:22,042 --> 00:11:25,167 We know there were a lot of strange looking insects, 270 00:11:25,250 --> 00:11:28,292 hundreds, thousands, millions of years ago 271 00:11:28,375 --> 00:11:31,167 and perhaps somewhere locked in that genetic code 272 00:11:31,250 --> 00:11:33,000 was this strange mutation 273 00:11:33,125 --> 00:11:35,833 that has now come to life in modern times. 274 00:11:36,875 --> 00:11:38,875 - Atavisms are fascinating phenomena 275 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,625 that can result in oddities 276 00:11:40,750 --> 00:11:43,833 like a baby being born with a vestigial tail 277 00:11:43,917 --> 00:11:47,250 left in its genes from our primate ancestors. 278 00:11:47,375 --> 00:11:48,583 Could this be what we're seeing 279 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:51,667 in this strange hanging creature? 280 00:11:51,792 --> 00:11:54,000 Hopefully our experts have the answer. 281 00:11:54,083 --> 00:11:56,667 (tense music) 282 00:11:58,792 --> 00:12:00,667 Wildlife biologist Stephanie Schuttler 283 00:12:00,750 --> 00:12:03,250 weighs in on the radioactive mutation theory. 284 00:12:03,375 --> 00:12:06,458 - Radiation can definitely affect tissue. 285 00:12:06,583 --> 00:12:09,000 It can cause really bad burns 286 00:12:09,167 --> 00:12:12,667 and it's like melting your skin or your muscles. 287 00:12:12,792 --> 00:12:17,667 It definitely damages DNA which can cause cancer, 288 00:12:17,792 --> 00:12:23,500 so it does cause problems, but not these mutations. 289 00:12:23,625 --> 00:12:26,917 It's more of cancer tumors. 290 00:12:27,042 --> 00:12:29,250 - [Tony] Now as we said, there are atavisms, 291 00:12:29,375 --> 00:12:31,833 which is when an organism has a recurring trait 292 00:12:31,958 --> 00:12:34,042 that once belonged exclusively to its ancestors 293 00:12:34,167 --> 00:12:36,417 due to genetic recombination. 294 00:12:36,542 --> 00:12:37,958 The most extreme example 295 00:12:38,083 --> 00:12:40,833 might be be hind limbs on whales or sea cows. 296 00:12:40,958 --> 00:12:43,792 Other examples of this include extra toes on horses, 297 00:12:43,917 --> 00:12:46,750 vestigial claws, or dewclaws on dogs, 298 00:12:46,875 --> 00:12:48,375 or third nipples on humans. 299 00:12:48,542 --> 00:12:51,250 But in this case we checked and there's no fossil record 300 00:12:51,375 --> 00:12:53,667 of an ancient insect with tentacles. 301 00:12:53,792 --> 00:12:55,167 After analyzing the evidence, 302 00:12:55,292 --> 00:12:57,333 biologist Floyd Hayes says a creature like this 303 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,792 may have inspired the legend of the pelesit, 304 00:12:59,917 --> 00:13:01,250 but he's sure it's a real animal 305 00:13:01,375 --> 00:13:03,500 because he can identify those tentacles. 306 00:13:03,667 --> 00:13:05,583 They're actually scent glands. 307 00:13:05,708 --> 00:13:09,000 - We could tell this is an insect because it has six legs, 308 00:13:09,125 --> 00:13:11,250 it's got a rather thick body and it's got wings, 309 00:13:11,375 --> 00:13:13,375 so it looks like a moth 310 00:13:13,542 --> 00:13:17,833 with these long scent glands on the rear end. 311 00:13:17,917 --> 00:13:21,792 This is a clouded tiger moth which lives in Asia 312 00:13:21,917 --> 00:13:24,708 and and the western West Indies. 313 00:13:24,833 --> 00:13:26,500 It's a male that has these four 314 00:13:26,583 --> 00:13:31,375 elongated tubular scent glands called coremata 315 00:13:31,542 --> 00:13:32,667 and they release a pheromone, 316 00:13:32,792 --> 00:13:33,875 which is a chemical signal, 317 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,625 that attracts other males and females 318 00:13:36,708 --> 00:13:39,167 and they usually do this in the evening 319 00:13:39,250 --> 00:13:40,833 when they're in the mood to mate. 320 00:13:40,917 --> 00:13:43,250 (tense music) 321 00:13:45,042 --> 00:13:47,833 - The verdict? This thing's a clouded tiger moth. 322 00:13:47,917 --> 00:13:50,167 Our experts tell us that this is a normal feature 323 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:54,208 of all male lepidopterans, like butterflies and moths. 324 00:13:54,375 --> 00:13:56,167 It seems this particular creature's glands 325 00:13:56,250 --> 00:13:58,292 are enlarged with pheromones at that moment 326 00:13:58,417 --> 00:14:01,000 because he's on the lookout for procreation. 327 00:14:01,167 --> 00:14:03,375 As for why the guy is in a house and not outdoors? 328 00:14:03,542 --> 00:14:11,958 He's just looking for love in all the wrong places. 329 00:14:12,042 --> 00:14:14,583 - Boiling cooking oil is not something you want to touch. 330 00:14:14,708 --> 00:14:16,833 At 572 degrees Fahrenheit, 331 00:14:16,958 --> 00:14:19,083 it is much hotter than boiling water, 332 00:14:19,208 --> 00:14:21,667 which is only 212 degrees Fahrenheit. 333 00:14:21,792 --> 00:14:23,792 But video has emerged of one man 334 00:14:23,917 --> 00:14:25,792 whose seemingly superhuman hands are heat resistant. 335 00:14:25,875 --> 00:14:27,792 December 18, 2021. 336 00:14:27,875 --> 00:14:29,875 It's lunchtime in Jaipur, India 337 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,667 and like most days, a crowd is assembled 338 00:14:31,792 --> 00:14:33,333 in front of a popular restaurant. 339 00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:36,125 They're here to sample the fried fish and shishkabobs, 340 00:14:36,208 --> 00:14:39,375 but also to catch a glimpse of chef Abhey Sharma 341 00:14:39,542 --> 00:14:42,833 whose skills aren't just culinary, they're super sensory. 342 00:14:42,917 --> 00:14:45,208 Standing over a vat of boiling cooking oil, 343 00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:47,542 Abhey with no gloves, mitts or tongs 344 00:14:47,667 --> 00:14:49,333 reaches into the scalding liquid, 345 00:14:49,458 --> 00:14:50,542 and to the crowd's wonder, 346 00:14:50,667 --> 00:14:53,375 he continues to pass his fingers through the oil 347 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:55,958 as if performing his morning ablutions. 348 00:14:56,042 --> 00:14:57,417 As we zoom in and slow down, 349 00:14:57,542 --> 00:14:59,708 we see that he's not covering his fingers with anything. 350 00:14:59,833 --> 00:15:03,542 They're definitely going into the oil over and over again. 351 00:15:03,708 --> 00:15:05,542 Viewers, do not try this at home. 352 00:15:05,667 --> 00:15:08,667 - The chef here seems to be completely comfortable 353 00:15:08,792 --> 00:15:10,167 with dipping his hands in oil. 354 00:15:10,292 --> 00:15:12,917 One theory is that this chef is using a technique 355 00:15:13,042 --> 00:15:14,458 akin to fire walkers. 356 00:15:14,542 --> 00:15:16,833 Fire walking is a long standing tradition 357 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:18,000 in Indian cultures. 358 00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:20,292 It dates back to India's iron age. 359 00:15:20,375 --> 00:15:22,750 Fire walking was a rite of passage 360 00:15:22,875 --> 00:15:25,750 and a way for people to show strength. 361 00:15:25,875 --> 00:15:27,458 - [Tony] Pain immunity is not exclusive 362 00:15:27,542 --> 00:15:29,042 to Indian fire walkers. 363 00:15:29,167 --> 00:15:31,042 Jewish writer Jack Schwartz became known 364 00:15:31,167 --> 00:15:32,625 for his mind over matter abilities 365 00:15:32,708 --> 00:15:34,875 after being forced to develop them through prayer 366 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,292 and meditation while being imprisoned 367 00:15:36,375 --> 00:15:38,500 by the Germans during World War II. 368 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:41,042 After the war, he continued to show off his talents, 369 00:15:41,167 --> 00:15:43,000 being capable of pushing a needle through his arm 370 00:15:43,125 --> 00:15:45,167 without experiencing any pain. 371 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,583 Are we witnessing the same thing with Abhey? 372 00:15:47,708 --> 00:15:51,417 - His ability to put his hands in this hot vat of oil, 373 00:15:51,542 --> 00:15:54,958 which is about 575 degrees Fahrenheit, 374 00:15:55,042 --> 00:15:58,333 might be similar in that it's mind over matter. 375 00:15:58,458 --> 00:16:01,875 That the human can will himself to do something 376 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,125 that seems almost superhuman. 377 00:16:06,125 --> 00:16:08,583 - Walking on coals is no joke. 378 00:16:08,708 --> 00:16:12,333 At a 2016 self help seminar hosted by Tony Robbins, 379 00:16:12,458 --> 00:16:15,208 roughly 30 people were treated for burns 380 00:16:15,333 --> 00:16:18,125 after stepping through coals in an exercise. 381 00:16:18,208 --> 00:16:21,667 Though most of the 7,000 guests sustained no injuries, 382 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:24,792 there's always a risk when playing with fire. 383 00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:27,917 So does Abhey possess superhuman abilities 384 00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,458 or is there some sleight of hand at play? 385 00:16:30,542 --> 00:16:31,750 Let's ask our experts. 386 00:16:31,875 --> 00:16:34,500 (tense music) 387 00:16:35,875 --> 00:16:38,750 Professor of biology Floyd Hayes says acquired pain immunity 388 00:16:38,875 --> 00:16:40,208 is a real phenomenon 389 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:42,375 and that is indeed what we're seeing here. 390 00:16:42,500 --> 00:16:46,208 - I think this is a case of sensory adaptation 391 00:16:46,375 --> 00:16:48,333 where he has become accustomed to do this 392 00:16:48,458 --> 00:16:51,333 and his body has adapted to it. 393 00:16:51,458 --> 00:16:53,333 - [Tony] Humans can and have adapted 394 00:16:53,458 --> 00:16:55,208 to extreme conditions before. 395 00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:57,208 For example, in Tierra Del Fuego 396 00:16:57,333 --> 00:16:59,042 on the southern tip of South America, 397 00:16:59,208 --> 00:17:01,167 the early Yahgan people were able to wear 398 00:17:01,250 --> 00:17:04,042 very little clothing despite the ice cold climate. 399 00:17:04,167 --> 00:17:06,458 Among other reasons, scientists believed this was partly 400 00:17:06,583 --> 00:17:09,875 because they evolved higher metabolism over time. 401 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,958 - And I think that after repetitively 402 00:17:13,083 --> 00:17:16,375 placing his hands in this boiling hot oil, 403 00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:19,083 his body simply became adapted to it 404 00:17:19,208 --> 00:17:21,208 and it no longer affects him. 405 00:17:25,375 --> 00:17:27,083 - [Tony] World renowned physicist, Michio Kaku, 406 00:17:27,208 --> 00:17:28,583 respectfully disagrees. 407 00:17:28,708 --> 00:17:31,208 He thinks the chef is likely putting his hand in water 408 00:17:31,333 --> 00:17:34,583 before he puts it in the oil and that water turns to steam. 409 00:17:34,708 --> 00:17:38,417 - Steam is not a good conductor of heat. 410 00:17:38,542 --> 00:17:40,583 It has very low thermal conductivity. 411 00:17:40,708 --> 00:17:42,333 That's the Leidenfrost effect. 412 00:17:42,417 --> 00:17:45,958 If I get a hot skillet and put drops of water 413 00:17:46,042 --> 00:17:47,500 on top of the skillet, 414 00:17:47,583 --> 00:17:50,667 the water will skidder around because it's floating 415 00:17:50,792 --> 00:17:52,542 on a layer of steam. 416 00:17:52,667 --> 00:17:55,208 That's the same thing happening here. 417 00:17:55,333 --> 00:17:57,167 I think what we did not see is the fact 418 00:17:57,292 --> 00:18:00,750 that he probably put his hand in water first 419 00:18:00,875 --> 00:18:04,333 to get that layer of water so that when he stuck his hand 420 00:18:04,458 --> 00:18:08,250 inside the hot oil, the water turned to steam 421 00:18:08,375 --> 00:18:09,917 and steam protected him. 422 00:18:10,042 --> 00:18:11,417 That's the trick. 423 00:18:11,542 --> 00:18:14,083 And notice that he only did it for a second or so. 424 00:18:14,208 --> 00:18:16,458 If he left his hand there, 425 00:18:16,542 --> 00:18:18,750 the steam would've vaporized eventually 426 00:18:18,875 --> 00:18:21,500 and then of course you would burn your hand off. 427 00:18:21,625 --> 00:18:24,667 - By the way, this is the technique used by fire walkers. 428 00:18:24,792 --> 00:18:27,667 They wet their feet first and as long as they keep moving, 429 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:30,083 the steam protects them from the hot coals. 430 00:18:34,417 --> 00:18:36,917 So, two diverging expert opinions. 431 00:18:37,042 --> 00:18:38,667 The steam theory is intriguing, 432 00:18:38,750 --> 00:18:40,125 but Abhey has never admitted 433 00:18:40,250 --> 00:18:42,167 to putting his hands in cold water first 434 00:18:42,292 --> 00:18:44,917 and we don't see him doing that on the video. 435 00:18:45,042 --> 00:18:47,500 So for now we're going to go with Dr. Hayes 436 00:18:47,583 --> 00:18:50,708 and say that this is a real deal case 437 00:18:50,875 --> 00:18:52,458 of acquired pain immunity. 438 00:18:58,292 --> 00:19:00,333 - Did you know that there Uare more than 17 verses. 439 00:19:00,458 --> 00:19:03,083 in the Bible about fires in the sky? 440 00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:06,333 Perhaps most famously, the prophet Ezekiel 441 00:19:06,417 --> 00:19:08,792 wrote of a heavenly flaming wheel. 442 00:19:08,875 --> 00:19:12,042 Some feel these are ancient accounts of flaming UFOs. 443 00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:14,125 People today are still seeing them, 444 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:17,333 but unlike Ezekiel, they have video. 445 00:19:17,417 --> 00:19:19,500 September 19, 2019. 446 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:22,042 It's a clear night sky over Yuma, Arizona. 447 00:19:22,167 --> 00:19:23,292 A woman is out with friends 448 00:19:23,417 --> 00:19:24,667 when she notices something strange 449 00:19:24,833 --> 00:19:26,542 suddenly appear above the city 450 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:27,333 so she takes out her cell phone and captures this. 451 00:19:32,708 --> 00:19:34,833 - [Tony] Zooming in, we see four glowing lights 452 00:19:34,958 --> 00:19:36,375 that seem to float in the air, 453 00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:39,417 but wait, suddenly another group of lights appear. 454 00:19:42,917 --> 00:19:44,333 - [Tony] So what are they? 455 00:19:44,458 --> 00:19:47,333 Journalist Amy Teitel is equally curious. 456 00:19:47,458 --> 00:19:49,417 - There's nothing high in this city. 457 00:19:49,542 --> 00:19:51,583 It's not like they're Christmas lights on a balcony 458 00:19:51,708 --> 00:19:53,125 of a high rise building. 459 00:19:53,208 --> 00:19:56,458 They're clearly above some kind of settlement, 460 00:19:56,542 --> 00:19:59,667 some kind of housing development or something, 461 00:19:59,750 --> 00:20:00,833 but they're not moving. 462 00:20:02,167 --> 00:20:03,375 - [Tony] Teitel says these mysterious lights 463 00:20:03,542 --> 00:20:05,958 appear to be a new type of UFO phenomenon. 464 00:20:06,042 --> 00:20:08,125 Not an unidentified flying object, 465 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:10,417 but an unidentified fiery object. 466 00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,833 - The term unidentified fiery object 467 00:20:12,958 --> 00:20:15,167 is a new one in the UFO spheres, 468 00:20:15,250 --> 00:20:16,708 but it's becoming more common. 469 00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:19,167 It's a term used by the European Space Agency 470 00:20:19,333 --> 00:20:21,333 and the United States Weather Service. 471 00:20:21,458 --> 00:20:23,667 They're usually discs or circular 472 00:20:23,833 --> 00:20:26,917 and they kind of seem to glow as if they're on fire. 473 00:20:27,042 --> 00:20:28,708 They're also not solid. 474 00:20:28,875 --> 00:20:31,000 They kind of float off and on, 475 00:20:31,083 --> 00:20:33,000 almost as though they're light bulbs. 476 00:20:33,125 --> 00:20:35,458 - [Tony] Teitel explains that these strange fiery objects 477 00:20:35,583 --> 00:20:36,958 in the sky have been recorded 478 00:20:37,083 --> 00:20:38,875 in both ancient and modern history. 479 00:20:39,042 --> 00:20:41,792 - In 1440 BCE, there was a record 480 00:20:41,917 --> 00:20:44,042 in the Tulli Papyrus by scribes, 481 00:20:44,167 --> 00:20:46,500 of fiery discs seen in the sky. 482 00:20:46,625 --> 00:20:49,750 And in 2022, something similar was seen 483 00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:51,375 in Fresno, California. 484 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,458 A man in Fresno saw six glowing orbs in the sky. 485 00:20:54,583 --> 00:20:57,833 They appeared, they glowed and then they disappeared. 486 00:20:57,958 --> 00:20:59,375 When he alerted authorities, 487 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:01,417 no one could give him a satisfactory 488 00:21:01,542 --> 00:21:04,750 or any kind of answer about what these glowing orbs were. 489 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,167 - We also reported on this unidentified fiery object 490 00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:12,458 recently documented in Canada. 491 00:21:12,542 --> 00:21:14,750 That turned out to be a big Mylar balloon 492 00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:16,375 reflecting the sun. 493 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:18,667 But this is a group of UFOs. 494 00:21:18,833 --> 00:21:20,167 Could that be a clue? 495 00:21:20,292 --> 00:21:21,708 Let's ask the experts. 496 00:21:21,833 --> 00:21:23,792 (tense music) 497 00:21:25,833 --> 00:21:26,833 We begin our analysis 498 00:21:26,958 --> 00:21:29,042 with forensic video expert Michael Primeau. 499 00:21:29,208 --> 00:21:31,125 - From what I've reviewed thus far, 500 00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:33,583 I didn't detect any evidence of CGI 501 00:21:33,708 --> 00:21:36,042 or anything that was potentially overlaid 502 00:21:36,167 --> 00:21:37,542 into the recording to misrepresent 503 00:21:37,667 --> 00:21:39,708 that these lights weren't originally captured 504 00:21:39,875 --> 00:21:40,833 within the scene. 505 00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:43,333 They are consistent with the rest of the imagery 506 00:21:43,458 --> 00:21:45,333 as it's being encoded. 507 00:21:45,458 --> 00:21:47,042 - [Tony] So it appears the lights are part 508 00:21:47,208 --> 00:21:49,167 of the original video, but what are they? 509 00:21:49,292 --> 00:21:50,792 Could this be part of a celebration? 510 00:21:50,875 --> 00:21:53,625 - One phenomena that creates an illumination 511 00:21:53,708 --> 00:21:56,458 of being orange and moving through the sky 512 00:21:56,542 --> 00:21:58,542 are Chinese lanterns. 513 00:21:58,667 --> 00:22:01,167 But lanterns tend to go up in an angle. 514 00:22:01,292 --> 00:22:03,250 These are clearly coming straight down 515 00:22:03,375 --> 00:22:06,000 and so it doesn't match something like 516 00:22:06,125 --> 00:22:07,375 a Chinese lantern. 517 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:08,833 - [Tony] So if fiery objects 518 00:22:08,958 --> 00:22:10,708 have been linked to aliens throughout history, 519 00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:11,792 could it be a UFO? 520 00:22:11,917 --> 00:22:13,625 As he did before with the rubber duck UFO, 521 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:16,000 Hoffman looks for telltale characteristics. 522 00:22:16,125 --> 00:22:19,125 - They're able to do a lot of different maneuvers 523 00:22:19,208 --> 00:22:20,792 that we're not very familiar with. 524 00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:22,667 They can also go shoot straight up. 525 00:22:22,792 --> 00:22:24,500 But there's nothing characteristic 526 00:22:24,625 --> 00:22:26,458 or very significant about what you see 527 00:22:26,542 --> 00:22:28,542 in this particular video that would lead you to believe 528 00:22:28,667 --> 00:22:33,167 that it's anything alien or something from off planet. 529 00:22:33,333 --> 00:22:34,833 - [Tony] Astronomer and video effects designer 530 00:22:34,958 --> 00:22:37,875 Mark D'Antonio agrees that we're not looking at a UFO, 531 00:22:38,042 --> 00:22:40,333 but he does see a detail in the lights' behavior 532 00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:42,333 that he believes is a smoking gun. 533 00:22:42,458 --> 00:22:44,000 - There's a couple of qualities about the lights 534 00:22:44,125 --> 00:22:45,625 that you have to really notice, 535 00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:49,667 and that is that they're not just solid lights. 536 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:51,708 They flicker differently than these white lights 537 00:22:51,875 --> 00:22:53,125 down on the bottom. 538 00:22:53,208 --> 00:22:55,083 Also, they look like they're just floating in the sky. 539 00:22:55,208 --> 00:22:57,167 When you measure this here to that 540 00:22:57,292 --> 00:22:59,000 and you just look at how they're coming down, 541 00:22:59,167 --> 00:23:01,833 you see that they're actually coming down just a little bit. 542 00:23:01,958 --> 00:23:05,500 That's very important because it gives us a clue 543 00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:07,042 as to what's going on here. 544 00:23:07,167 --> 00:23:09,750 - [Tony] D'Antonio believes that slight downward motion 545 00:23:09,875 --> 00:23:11,458 is the key to solving this mystery. 546 00:23:11,583 --> 00:23:14,167 - This is near Yuma, Arizona. 547 00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:17,042 Well, in that area of Arizona, 548 00:23:17,208 --> 00:23:18,375 there's a Luke Air Force Base, 549 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:22,042 so what we're seeing here could very well be 550 00:23:22,167 --> 00:23:24,500 a exercise by the military. 551 00:23:24,583 --> 00:23:26,833 - [Tony] D'Antonio believes these are parachute flares 552 00:23:26,917 --> 00:23:29,000 and the motion is caused by the winds changing 553 00:23:29,167 --> 00:23:30,042 as they drift down. 554 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:34,500 - Parachute flares are very, very bright burning flares 555 00:23:34,625 --> 00:23:36,542 that drop slowly in the sky. 556 00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:40,667 And in my view, these look to me like parachute flares 557 00:23:40,792 --> 00:23:42,375 that are being dropped by the military. 558 00:23:42,542 --> 00:23:43,500 I've probably seen this 559 00:23:43,667 --> 00:23:47,250 probably 10 or 12 times directly live. 560 00:23:47,375 --> 00:23:49,708 They do these exercises all the time. 561 00:23:56,083 --> 00:23:58,625 - Our verdict? Parachute flares. 562 00:23:58,708 --> 00:24:01,500 It's their down and up motion that sealed it. 563 00:24:01,667 --> 00:24:04,875 A fun fact, the flares can reach a height of about 1,000 feet 564 00:24:05,042 --> 00:24:14,333 and can be seen on a clear night from about 28 miles away. 565 00:24:14,417 --> 00:24:15,500 U- It was the stuff ofs nightmares for some 566 00:24:15,583 --> 00:24:16,833 and a sign of the divine for others. 567 00:24:16,958 --> 00:24:19,417 This next story is sure to give you chills. 568 00:24:20,875 --> 00:24:24,500 It's January 2022 near Lake Erie in Dunnville, Ontario. 569 00:24:24,667 --> 00:24:27,000 A local lake house owner wakes up one wintry morning 570 00:24:27,167 --> 00:24:28,625 and looks out the window. 571 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:31,792 What greets him is a chilling site, in more ways than one. 572 00:24:33,750 --> 00:24:36,375 A tall, ominous figure seemingly carved from ice 573 00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:39,458 stands before him with deathly stillness. 574 00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:41,583 The icy form is slightly hunched over 575 00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:45,167 and appears to be wrapped in a long shawl or cloak. 576 00:24:45,292 --> 00:24:47,250 Journalist MJ Banias says it's a site 577 00:24:47,375 --> 00:24:49,167 that seems to freeze even time. 578 00:24:49,250 --> 00:24:52,875 - It has a very strange shape, looks very humanoid. 579 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,167 We have this sort of hood, cloak kind of situation. 580 00:24:56,250 --> 00:24:58,667 You know, obviously it resembles, to this man, 581 00:24:58,792 --> 00:25:00,875 sort of this image of death. 582 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 - [Tony] We're talking about the Grim Reaper. 583 00:25:03,083 --> 00:25:04,958 And what's even stranger, the man's daughter 584 00:25:05,042 --> 00:25:07,500 said she recognized the shrouded figure from her dreams, 585 00:25:07,625 --> 00:25:10,500 suggesting this might be some kind of deadly omen. 586 00:25:10,625 --> 00:25:13,542 - The daughter of the man who took this picture 587 00:25:13,667 --> 00:25:16,583 has said that prior to this, 588 00:25:16,708 --> 00:25:18,833 she was having very strange dreams. 589 00:25:18,958 --> 00:25:21,792 She was encountering figures, ghosts, 590 00:25:21,875 --> 00:25:26,417 sort of strange entities that she was scared about. 591 00:25:26,542 --> 00:25:28,083 - The Grim Reaper first appeared in Europe 592 00:25:28,208 --> 00:25:30,208 in the 14th century when the world was suffering 593 00:25:30,333 --> 00:25:31,500 through the Black Death plague 594 00:25:31,583 --> 00:25:33,542 that killed one third of Europeans. 595 00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:35,833 The robed figure was depicted carrying a scythe 596 00:25:35,958 --> 00:25:38,167 to reap crops that had been plucked from the the earth, 597 00:25:38,292 --> 00:25:39,667 like those who had died. 598 00:25:39,792 --> 00:25:42,167 But as recently as 2014, stories of the Grim Reaper 599 00:25:42,333 --> 00:25:46,000 stalking a Albuquerque, New Mexico cemetery made headlines. 600 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,708 And this is not the only example 601 00:25:50,833 --> 00:25:54,000 of a seemingly spectral figure frozen in ice. 602 00:25:54,083 --> 00:25:56,083 A drone video from near New Buffalo, Michigan 603 00:25:56,208 --> 00:25:58,917 shows what appears to be an angel standing guard 604 00:25:59,042 --> 00:26:02,125 over the frozen lake in February 2021. 605 00:26:02,208 --> 00:26:05,042 Some who watched the clip viewed it as a sign from God. 606 00:26:06,333 --> 00:26:08,792 Could these icebound figures somehow be related? 607 00:26:10,208 --> 00:26:12,833 Psychologists say dreams and visions of the Grim Reaper 608 00:26:12,917 --> 00:26:15,500 don't necessarily mean imminent death. 609 00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:17,667 They could represent the subconscious mind 610 00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:19,667 processing the end of something. 611 00:26:19,833 --> 00:26:24,583 A transition or just the feeling of missing something or someone. 612 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:27,750 Still, seeing an image like this in my front yard 613 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:31,000 would freak me out no matter how I slept. 614 00:26:31,125 --> 00:26:33,375 Let's let our experts tell us what it all means. 615 00:26:33,542 --> 00:26:35,958 (tense music) 616 00:26:37,542 --> 00:26:39,625 Today's ice sculptors are able to construct 617 00:26:39,708 --> 00:26:41,875 elaborate representations of various animals, 618 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,458 so making a Grim Reaper shouldn't be a huge challenge. 619 00:26:45,542 --> 00:26:47,500 But physicist Dr. Matthew Szydagis says 620 00:26:47,625 --> 00:26:49,000 if this was made by an artist, 621 00:26:49,083 --> 00:26:51,500 it would likely be much more precise. 622 00:26:51,625 --> 00:26:53,667 - If you're gonna fake something, 623 00:26:53,792 --> 00:26:55,708 I would do a much better job. 624 00:26:55,833 --> 00:26:58,333 This looks very random to me. 625 00:26:58,458 --> 00:26:59,583 If you look at it, 626 00:26:59,708 --> 00:27:01,833 you don't see a distinct face in the hood, 627 00:27:01,958 --> 00:27:03,958 you don't see a lot of symmetry here. 628 00:27:04,083 --> 00:27:06,833 Like you don't see an equal number of spikes left to right. 629 00:27:06,958 --> 00:27:08,583 So I really don't think this is a case 630 00:27:08,708 --> 00:27:10,500 of a manmade structure. 631 00:27:10,625 --> 00:27:12,667 - [Tony] Then if it's not an artist's sculpture, 632 00:27:12,750 --> 00:27:15,500 could this form be a result of the wintry weather? 633 00:27:15,583 --> 00:27:18,167 Meteorologist Juan Hernandez says the incident took place 634 00:27:18,292 --> 00:27:20,375 on the Grand River near the mouth of Lake Erie, 635 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,875 where the weather data shows a lot of freezing and thawing. 636 00:27:24,042 --> 00:27:25,708 - We can see that there were quite 637 00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:27,708 a bit of fluctuations in temperature. 638 00:27:27,833 --> 00:27:30,417 We saw two dips in the temperature 639 00:27:30,542 --> 00:27:32,167 where the temperature actually decreased 640 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:36,167 to about 10 to 15 degrees Fahrenheit. 641 00:27:36,292 --> 00:27:38,958 Because of those significant temperature drops, 642 00:27:39,083 --> 00:27:43,042 any kind of water that may be un-frozen in the river 643 00:27:43,167 --> 00:27:47,250 or a lake that splashes up will quickly become frozen. 644 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:49,667 - [Tony] And Hernandez says that below zero temperatures 645 00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:51,917 and strong wakes from a winter storm can quickly 646 00:27:52,042 --> 00:27:54,667 add up to something that looks like a sculpture. 647 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:57,500 - This is a perfect example of what happens 648 00:27:57,583 --> 00:28:00,958 when water sprays up into an object. 649 00:28:01,042 --> 00:28:05,500 In this case, it looks like the object is a lamp post 650 00:28:05,625 --> 00:28:09,625 that has been covered in ice over the course of many days 651 00:28:09,708 --> 00:28:11,542 and multiple storm systems. 652 00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:14,750 Because something like this doesn't just happen overnight. 653 00:28:14,875 --> 00:28:17,000 - The same effect likely happened with the ice angel, 654 00:28:17,125 --> 00:28:19,250 with water splashing onto this metal beacon 655 00:28:19,375 --> 00:28:21,583 at the end of a breakwater where the Galien River 656 00:28:21,708 --> 00:28:23,125 meets Lake Michigan. 657 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:25,583 And Szydagis adds that it's our familiarity 658 00:28:25,708 --> 00:28:27,500 with the human figure that makes our brain 659 00:28:27,625 --> 00:28:29,000 see the Grim Reaper in this form. 660 00:28:29,083 --> 00:28:32,125 - There's a well known psychological phenomenon 661 00:28:32,208 --> 00:28:36,208 known as pareidolia where we can see a pattern 662 00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:37,708 when there is none. 663 00:28:37,833 --> 00:28:40,375 I believe that this is an example of what we're seeing. 664 00:28:40,542 --> 00:28:42,833 (tense music) 665 00:28:44,792 --> 00:28:47,000 - Our verdict? Pareidolia. 666 00:28:47,125 --> 00:28:51,000 This is the same effect we also see with the ice angel, 667 00:28:51,083 --> 00:28:53,333 though some still see it as divine inspiration 668 00:28:53,458 --> 00:28:55,625 manifested through nature. 669 00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:57,833 Luckily for the lake house owner in Ontario, 670 00:28:57,958 --> 00:29:00,042 this representation of the Grim Reaper 671 00:29:00,167 --> 00:29:01,667 didn't turn out to be an omen 672 00:29:01,792 --> 00:29:04,375 of anything worse than cold weather. 673 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:05,875 We hear that he's alive and well 674 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:12,375 as is the human brain's capacity for seeing patterns. 675 00:29:13,417 --> 00:29:15,167 - Undoubtedly, one of the most 676 00:29:15,292 --> 00:29:17,208 frightening experiences imaginable 677 00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:19,333 is being caught in the middle of an earthquake. 678 00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,667 But what if the terror doesn't end once it's over? 679 00:29:22,792 --> 00:29:24,625 Well, we've got a video of a strange phenomenon 680 00:29:24,708 --> 00:29:26,833 seen in the aftermath of some tremors in Mexico 681 00:29:26,958 --> 00:29:28,792 that has some people wondering 682 00:29:28,875 --> 00:29:31,833 if Mother Nature just wasn't finished 683 00:29:31,917 --> 00:29:33,167 or if something more sinister was responsible. 684 00:29:33,250 --> 00:29:35,250 September 7, 2021. 685 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:40,250 A severe 7.1 magnitude earthquake strikes Acapulco. 686 00:29:41,542 --> 00:29:43,875 The tremors are so strong they reach Mexico City, 687 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,875 which is 200 miles away from the epicenter. 688 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,333 And unbeknownst to evacuees who have gathered 689 00:29:49,458 --> 00:29:50,875 in the streets of the capitol, 690 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,750 something in the sky is about to steal 691 00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:54,125 the earthquake's thunder. 692 00:29:55,583 --> 00:29:58,000 (dogs barking) 693 00:29:59,292 --> 00:30:00,458 - [Man] Wow. 694 00:30:00,542 --> 00:30:02,333 - [Tony] Take a closer look. 695 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:03,875 See those blue flashes? 696 00:30:05,333 --> 00:30:07,875 Davo Penaloza, who resides in the Condesa neighborhood 697 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,500 witnessed the eerie spectacle. 698 00:30:09,625 --> 00:30:12,208 - These lights start to appear. 699 00:30:12,333 --> 00:30:14,792 The only thing that you can hear at the moment 700 00:30:14,875 --> 00:30:18,500 are the people shouting because it is so scary. 701 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:20,333 - [Tony] Davo and his neighbors aren't the only ones 702 00:30:20,458 --> 00:30:21,833 in a state of shock. 703 00:30:21,917 --> 00:30:24,792 The hashtag apocolipsis, Spanish for apocalypse, 704 00:30:24,917 --> 00:30:26,958 begins to trend online, 705 00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:29,917 And in the streets, people feel an evil presence. 706 00:30:33,333 --> 00:30:35,083 - [Tony] Catholic miracle historian Michael O'Neill 707 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,833 says the connection between earthquakes 708 00:30:36,917 --> 00:30:39,125 and fears of the apocalypse is ancient. 709 00:30:40,917 --> 00:30:43,417 - When people see lights and thunder 710 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:44,833 and unexplained phenomena, 711 00:30:44,917 --> 00:30:47,417 they say this is clearly apocalyptic, 712 00:30:47,542 --> 00:30:50,208 perhaps hearkening back to the Book of Revelation. 713 00:30:50,333 --> 00:30:51,333 - [Tony] In the Book of Revelation, 714 00:30:51,458 --> 00:30:53,042 it's the four horsemen of the apocalypse 715 00:30:53,167 --> 00:30:54,833 who represent evil and disasters 716 00:30:54,958 --> 00:30:57,292 said to occur before the second coming of Jesus. 717 00:30:57,375 --> 00:31:00,000 But strangely, others point not to the work of the devil, 718 00:31:00,083 --> 00:31:02,542 but Jesus as Holy Mother Mary as a presence 719 00:31:02,708 --> 00:31:04,125 connected to catastrophes. 720 00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:07,833 - In Zeitoun, in Egypt, from 1968 to '71, 721 00:31:07,958 --> 00:31:10,583 the Virgin Mary was said to be visibly walking 722 00:31:10,708 --> 00:31:13,875 on the rooftop of St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Church. 723 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,667 She was surrounded by lights, glowing figures 724 00:31:16,750 --> 00:31:18,167 and orbs and doves. 725 00:31:18,292 --> 00:31:22,292 These were seen by Christians, Jews, atheists and Muslims 726 00:31:22,375 --> 00:31:24,917 and there were earthquakes happening in that region 727 00:31:25,042 --> 00:31:26,375 right before these events. 728 00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:28,375 So perhaps there's a connection there. 729 00:31:29,542 --> 00:31:31,250 - When it comes to divine intervention, 730 00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:33,875 believers in Mexico City have long looked 731 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,458 to the Virgin of Guadalupe for aid in times of trouble. 732 00:31:37,583 --> 00:31:39,917 She's credited with ending calamitous events 733 00:31:40,042 --> 00:31:44,625 like the flood of 1629 and the epidemic of 1736. 734 00:31:44,708 --> 00:31:48,000 In the meantime, let's see if our experts can determine 735 00:31:48,125 --> 00:31:50,833 if this footage captures something divine, 736 00:31:50,958 --> 00:31:53,667 demonic or just natural. 737 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:56,000 (tense music) 738 00:31:57,917 --> 00:31:59,917 So are these lights the work of the devil 739 00:32:00,042 --> 00:32:02,333 or signaling the appearance of the Virgin Mary? 740 00:32:02,458 --> 00:32:05,083 Physicists Matthew Szydagis won't go that far, 741 00:32:05,208 --> 00:32:06,792 but he does say the video might capture 742 00:32:06,875 --> 00:32:10,500 a rarely photographed phenomenon known as earthquake lights. 743 00:32:10,667 --> 00:32:13,625 - One potential explanation for earthquake lights 744 00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:17,083 is that they come from friction 745 00:32:17,208 --> 00:32:21,792 of the rubbing of tectonic plates within the earth's crust 746 00:32:21,875 --> 00:32:25,167 that may lead to a pyroelectric effect. 747 00:32:25,292 --> 00:32:27,000 - [Tony] The theory is that chemical elements 748 00:32:27,083 --> 00:32:29,583 travel up through the cracks made during an earthquake. 749 00:32:30,875 --> 00:32:32,083 When they reach the atmosphere, 750 00:32:32,208 --> 00:32:34,667 these ions can ionize pockets of air, 751 00:32:34,750 --> 00:32:37,167 forming plasma that emits light. 752 00:32:37,292 --> 00:32:40,625 - But earthquake lights could be, in my understanding, 753 00:32:40,708 --> 00:32:42,250 a multitude of different colors 754 00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:45,292 and the only colors I see in this video 755 00:32:45,375 --> 00:32:49,667 are ones that correspond with ordinary, boring lightning. 756 00:32:49,792 --> 00:32:51,333 - [Tony] Lightning makes sense. 757 00:32:51,458 --> 00:32:53,292 So we asked meteorologist Juan Hernandez 758 00:32:53,417 --> 00:32:55,792 to look into the weather conditions on September 7th, 759 00:32:55,875 --> 00:32:57,125 the day the lights were filmed. 760 00:32:57,208 --> 00:33:00,417 - We actually have a tropical depression 15, 761 00:33:00,542 --> 00:33:05,333 which had developed off to the southwest of Mexico City. 762 00:33:05,458 --> 00:33:09,375 All of this moisture led to a fairly stormy day 763 00:33:09,542 --> 00:33:10,833 across the city. 764 00:33:10,958 --> 00:33:13,167 We have plenty of lightning that was reported 765 00:33:13,292 --> 00:33:15,375 before the earthquake actually developed, 766 00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:19,167 but we see what appears to be just one explosion 767 00:33:19,292 --> 00:33:20,917 that illuminates the clouds. 768 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:22,167 If it were lightning, 769 00:33:22,333 --> 00:33:24,500 it would likely be occurring everywhere, 770 00:33:24,625 --> 00:33:26,208 not just along the streets. 771 00:33:26,375 --> 00:33:29,042 - [Tony] Instead, Hernandez suggests we may be seeing 772 00:33:29,208 --> 00:33:31,833 a mechanical failure mistaken for a natural event. 773 00:33:31,958 --> 00:33:34,542 - Mexico City, it has plenty of transformers 774 00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:35,917 that could fail. 775 00:33:36,042 --> 00:33:39,000 A failing transformer is oftentimes caused 776 00:33:39,125 --> 00:33:42,125 by shaking in the ground or something that gets loose. 777 00:33:42,208 --> 00:33:43,917 A lot of times, these transformers 778 00:33:44,042 --> 00:33:45,458 are full of coolant. 779 00:33:45,583 --> 00:33:48,167 It takes one failure for that transformer 780 00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:51,667 to quickly explode, causing the transformer to light up 781 00:33:51,792 --> 00:33:55,750 into that blue hue that we see in this video. 782 00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:57,167 - [Tony] But while there were reports 783 00:33:57,292 --> 00:34:00,208 of transformer explosions, NASA geologists Bob Anderson 784 00:34:00,375 --> 00:34:03,042 says we should still consider a natural explanation 785 00:34:03,167 --> 00:34:04,417 for what we're seeing. 786 00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:06,500 - When you have a massive earthquake like a seven, 787 00:34:06,625 --> 00:34:08,083 the rocks can crack and you get all kinds 788 00:34:08,208 --> 00:34:09,667 of natural gas escaping. 789 00:34:09,792 --> 00:34:11,333 You see these balls of light 790 00:34:11,458 --> 00:34:13,792 and what they are is gas escaping from the ground. 791 00:34:13,917 --> 00:34:17,042 And when it comes up, it sort of either static electrically 792 00:34:17,167 --> 00:34:19,708 or some other mechanism, kind of ignites 793 00:34:19,833 --> 00:34:21,250 and it forms what we call gas balls, 794 00:34:21,375 --> 00:34:22,917 or gas lightning kind of things. 795 00:34:23,042 --> 00:34:25,042 They'll float for a while and then they dissipate. 796 00:34:25,167 --> 00:34:26,625 - [Tony] And if this happens, the flickering 797 00:34:26,708 --> 00:34:29,167 that results will look very similar to heat lightning, 798 00:34:29,250 --> 00:34:30,833 which is cloud-to-ground lightning 799 00:34:30,958 --> 00:34:32,000 that occurs from a distance. 800 00:34:32,125 --> 00:34:34,000 - Lightning is basically from a storm 801 00:34:34,083 --> 00:34:35,500 when the charge comes down, 802 00:34:35,625 --> 00:34:38,208 then the lightning comes from the ground to the surface. 803 00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:39,375 If you think about it, 804 00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:41,625 the gas itself is rising from the ground, 805 00:34:41,708 --> 00:34:42,875 so it would give the effect 806 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,833 that it could have been a lightning. 807 00:34:43,958 --> 00:34:45,333 And sometimes both of those 808 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:47,750 can be confused with with one another. 809 00:34:47,875 --> 00:34:50,250 (tense music) 810 00:34:52,042 --> 00:34:54,875 - Our verdict? Unexplained phenomenon. 811 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,500 When our experts disagree like this, 812 00:34:56,667 --> 00:34:58,833 we can't come to a definitive conclusion, 813 00:34:58,917 --> 00:35:01,125 though I like Anderson's gas theory. 814 00:35:01,250 --> 00:35:03,667 And for those who believe the natural world 815 00:35:03,833 --> 00:35:07,583 is ultimately governed by divine or devilish forces, 816 00:35:07,708 --> 00:35:12,583 we're in no position to say otherwise. 817 00:35:14,542 --> 00:35:15,667 - Bigfoot is not just big in stature, 818 00:35:15,833 --> 00:35:17,000 for some it's also big business. 819 00:35:17,125 --> 00:35:18,875 There's long been a thriving economy 820 00:35:19,042 --> 00:35:20,333 built around the legend. 821 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,208 Of course, we're a part of that, 822 00:35:22,375 --> 00:35:24,000 but we try to get things right. 823 00:35:24,167 --> 00:35:25,542 So when we heard an account of a man 824 00:35:25,667 --> 00:35:29,083 who said he killed Bigfoot, we had to investigate. 825 00:35:29,208 --> 00:35:31,125 (dramatic music) 826 00:35:31,208 --> 00:35:34,917 September 6, 2012 in San Antonio, Texas. 827 00:35:35,042 --> 00:35:37,292 Rick Dyer, a self-proclaimed Bigfoot tracker, 828 00:35:37,417 --> 00:35:39,667 has set a trap for the elusive beast 829 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:41,333 after he heard of a 911 call 830 00:35:41,458 --> 00:35:43,708 reporting the sighting of a large, hairy animal 831 00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:46,667 devouring a deer in the woods. 832 00:35:46,750 --> 00:35:49,333 - I wanted to attract him 833 00:35:49,458 --> 00:35:54,333 so I went out and got deer urine and pork ribs 834 00:35:54,458 --> 00:35:57,167 and I hung the pork ribs on a tree. 835 00:35:57,250 --> 00:36:01,875 I scattered the deer urine all under the tree, 836 00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:04,083 because Bigfoot is attracted to deer. 837 00:36:04,208 --> 00:36:06,500 And in the middle of the night, 838 00:36:06,625 --> 00:36:09,625 Bigfoot came back to eat the pork ribs 839 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:13,500 and I jumped out of the tent with my firearm 840 00:36:13,625 --> 00:36:17,583 and I shot at him a couple of times. 841 00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:20,333 - Rick initially claims he shot and killed Bigfoot, 842 00:36:20,458 --> 00:36:22,167 and soon thereafter, he releases 843 00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:24,417 these shocking photos to prove it. 844 00:36:24,542 --> 00:36:26,667 The images appear to show a frozen body 845 00:36:26,792 --> 00:36:28,417 of a deceased adult Bigfoot. 846 00:36:28,542 --> 00:36:31,167 You can see a face, lips and in this wider shot, 847 00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:33,250 a full body covered in fur. 848 00:36:33,375 --> 00:36:35,167 Rick claims the animal is eight feet tall, 849 00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:37,875 four feet wide and weighs about 800 pounds. 850 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,292 One photo also purports to show a long, sternal scar 851 00:36:41,417 --> 00:36:43,417 allegedly made when the creature was autopsied 852 00:36:43,542 --> 00:36:46,250 at an undisclosed college in Washington state. 853 00:36:46,375 --> 00:36:48,083 Rick nicknames the creature Hank 854 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:50,208 and takes the corpse on a national tour, 855 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,833 charging people to view the body under plexiglass 856 00:36:52,917 --> 00:36:54,125 in a wooden coffin 857 00:36:54,250 --> 00:36:56,708 and eventually pulling in close to $50,000. 858 00:36:58,083 --> 00:36:59,500 Field researcher Cliff Barackman 859 00:36:59,583 --> 00:37:02,042 says that he's not surprised by where it all began. 860 00:37:02,167 --> 00:37:05,458 Apparently Bigfoot is really big in the lone star state. 861 00:37:05,583 --> 00:37:08,833 - Texas is not generally thought of as Bigfoot habitat, 862 00:37:08,958 --> 00:37:10,667 but it absolutely is. 863 00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:13,292 They have a distribution over the continent 864 00:37:13,417 --> 00:37:16,417 very similar to that of black bears. 865 00:37:16,542 --> 00:37:19,375 They have the same needs as Sasquatches do. 866 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:24,125 Eastern Texas gets a ton of rain 867 00:37:24,250 --> 00:37:26,333 from the Gulf of Mexico coming north. 868 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,542 The more rain an area gets, 869 00:37:28,708 --> 00:37:32,125 the more Bigfoot reports come out of that particular area. 870 00:37:32,208 --> 00:37:34,250 - [Tony] Reports date back to 1924 871 00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:36,625 when the state's Folklore Society published a story 872 00:37:36,708 --> 00:37:40,000 about the strange case of the wild woman of Navidad. 873 00:37:40,125 --> 00:37:42,000 - The indigenous people of the area 874 00:37:42,167 --> 00:37:43,875 certainly knew about the Sasquatches 875 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,333 that they lived among. 876 00:37:45,417 --> 00:37:47,917 When white settlers started coming into the area, 877 00:37:48,042 --> 00:37:50,167 they also ran across Sasquatches 878 00:37:50,292 --> 00:37:53,292 and they reported them as wild men or wild women. 879 00:37:53,375 --> 00:37:56,708 And you can read newspaper reports and from settlers 880 00:37:56,833 --> 00:38:01,542 from as early as the 1920s or even the late 1800s. 881 00:38:01,708 --> 00:38:03,792 - But as we know, there's a difference 882 00:38:03,875 --> 00:38:06,250 between reports and proof. 883 00:38:07,167 --> 00:38:08,542 There were red flags going up 884 00:38:08,667 --> 00:38:11,417 around Rick's claims almost immediately. 885 00:38:11,542 --> 00:38:14,917 Perhaps the biggest was that he has a history of hoaxing, 886 00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:17,167 most notoriously in a 2008 incident 887 00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:19,417 in which he and another man claimed to have found 888 00:38:19,542 --> 00:38:21,833 a Bigfoot corpse in Georgia. 889 00:38:21,958 --> 00:38:25,083 That turned out to be a frozen Halloween costume. 890 00:38:25,208 --> 00:38:26,500 The folks who consider themselves 891 00:38:26,625 --> 00:38:28,917 serious Bigfoot researchers take offense 892 00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:30,667 to that kind of fakery, 893 00:38:30,792 --> 00:38:32,917 so let's see what they have to say about this. 894 00:38:33,042 --> 00:38:35,292 (tense music) 895 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,208 Anthropologist Kathy Strain believes Bigfoot exists, 896 00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:41,625 but she's doubtful this is it. 897 00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:44,292 - What I find problematic is that 898 00:38:44,375 --> 00:38:47,292 he says he shot it with a shotgun several times 899 00:38:47,375 --> 00:38:50,750 and yet there's no evidence of that on the body. 900 00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:53,042 - [Tony] Wildlife biologist Stephanie Schuttler 901 00:38:53,208 --> 00:38:54,792 also notes that something about the face 902 00:38:54,917 --> 00:38:57,792 just doesn't add up under close examination. 903 00:38:57,917 --> 00:39:00,833 - I don't understand why there's all this, like, 904 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,167 chapping around the eyes 905 00:39:03,250 --> 00:39:05,417 and the lips look extremely chapped. 906 00:39:05,542 --> 00:39:08,958 It looks like it would live in a really cold area. 907 00:39:09,083 --> 00:39:11,083 The fact that this was supposedly 908 00:39:11,208 --> 00:39:12,500 shot in southern Texas, 909 00:39:12,625 --> 00:39:14,417 it's even stranger. 910 00:39:14,542 --> 00:39:16,167 - [Tony] But Schuttler has an even bigger issue 911 00:39:16,333 --> 00:39:17,667 with how it's been preserved. 912 00:39:17,833 --> 00:39:20,833 - It looks almost like the eyes are glued shut. 913 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,375 It just doesn't look like anything from the natural world. 914 00:39:24,542 --> 00:39:28,542 It reminds me of a Hollywood costume. 915 00:39:28,708 --> 00:39:30,458 - [Tony] Professor of anatomy and anthropology, 916 00:39:30,583 --> 00:39:32,750 Jeff Meldrum, perhaps the world's most famous 917 00:39:32,875 --> 00:39:34,833 Bigfoot believer, agrees with Schuttler 918 00:39:34,958 --> 00:39:37,500 about the discrepancies in the face, and then some. 919 00:39:37,583 --> 00:39:39,500 - The brow was quite high. 920 00:39:39,583 --> 00:39:41,500 It had a high forehead. 921 00:39:41,667 --> 00:39:45,250 These everted lips, this pug nose, 922 00:39:45,375 --> 00:39:47,708 these almost cherub cheeks. 923 00:39:47,875 --> 00:39:51,625 It was just such a funny looking depiction 924 00:39:51,708 --> 00:39:55,458 that did not seem in any way to comport 925 00:39:55,542 --> 00:39:58,375 with the many eyewitness descriptions 926 00:39:58,542 --> 00:40:01,958 and the sketches of Sasquatch. 927 00:40:02,042 --> 00:40:04,000 - [Tony] For Meldrum, it's clear that not only 928 00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:05,458 is this creature not Bigfoot, 929 00:40:05,583 --> 00:40:07,625 it's a fabrication that lacks any backbone. 930 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:10,958 - It was literally just a stuffed mannequin. 931 00:40:11,042 --> 00:40:13,375 (tense music) 932 00:40:15,375 --> 00:40:18,917 - Our verdict? This is just another hoax. 933 00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:22,083 Rick may have provided photos of his alleged creature, 934 00:40:22,208 --> 00:40:24,833 but he never produced the results of his autopsy. 935 00:40:24,917 --> 00:40:27,417 This may have netted him some quick cash, 936 00:40:27,542 --> 00:40:30,333 but serious researchers say it was also a setback 937 00:40:30,458 --> 00:40:32,083 for their work and the reputation 938 00:40:32,208 --> 00:40:34,542 of the entire community. 939 00:40:34,708 --> 00:40:36,208 And that's our show for tonight. 940 00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:37,875 Thank you so much for watching, 941 00:40:38,042 --> 00:40:40,917 and remember to keep those cameras rolling. 942 00:40:41,042 --> 00:40:43,792 (dramatic theme music)