1 00:00:01,963 --> 00:00:03,380 - Tonight on "The Proof Is Out There". 2 00:00:03,505 --> 00:00:04,463 Spooky stuff. 3 00:00:04,547 --> 00:00:06,005 Is that a witch's broomstick hovering in mid-air? 4 00:00:06,130 --> 00:00:07,755 - [Lucca] Look, it's just floating. 5 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,338 - [Tony] We continue our investigation 6 00:00:09,505 --> 00:00:12,422 into the connection between UFOs and volcanoes. 7 00:00:12,547 --> 00:00:14,880 - Some people believe they use the volcano 8 00:00:15,005 --> 00:00:17,338 as a sort of base of operations. 9 00:00:17,463 --> 00:00:19,547 - [Tony] A strange sound over Slovakia. 10 00:00:19,713 --> 00:00:21,338 (otherworldly echoing) 11 00:00:21,463 --> 00:00:23,255 - [Amy] One theory was that it was the sound 12 00:00:23,380 --> 00:00:24,380 of the earth's heartbeat. 13 00:00:24,547 --> 00:00:27,130 - [Tony] And dinosaur tracks and human tracks 14 00:00:27,255 --> 00:00:28,922 literally crossing paths. 15 00:00:29,047 --> 00:00:31,088 Did the two walk the earth together? 16 00:00:31,213 --> 00:00:33,755 (dramatic music) 17 00:00:35,047 --> 00:00:36,672 Around the globe are videos. 18 00:00:36,838 --> 00:00:38,505 - [Witness] What the heck is this? 19 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:40,088 - [Witness] It's moving. 20 00:00:40,213 --> 00:00:43,005 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 21 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:46,172 (electric buzzing) 22 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:51,047 - [Marc] Is it some kind of unidentified object? 23 00:00:51,213 --> 00:00:53,755 What's exciting is nobody really knows. 24 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,588 - [Tony] What are they? 25 00:00:54,713 --> 00:00:57,297 - [MJ] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 26 00:00:57,422 --> 00:01:00,463 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 27 00:01:02,338 --> 00:01:03,338 - I'm Tony Harris, 28 00:01:03,505 --> 00:01:05,755 and as a journalist for more than 30 years, 29 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,588 I've followed the facts where they take me. 30 00:01:08,713 --> 00:01:11,172 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 31 00:01:11,255 --> 00:01:13,672 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 32 00:01:14,838 --> 00:01:17,547 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 33 00:01:17,713 --> 00:01:20,630 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 34 00:01:20,755 --> 00:01:23,380 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 35 00:01:23,547 --> 00:01:25,588 - This video was clearly faked. 36 00:01:25,713 --> 00:01:27,588 - The proof starts now. 37 00:01:27,713 --> 00:01:30,297 (dramatic theme music) 38 00:01:35,547 --> 00:01:38,797 Good evening and welcome to "The Proof Is Out There". 39 00:01:38,922 --> 00:01:41,005 Do you believe in witches? 40 00:01:41,130 --> 00:01:42,588 Let's take it a step farther. 41 00:01:42,713 --> 00:01:45,505 Do you believe in witches riding brooms? 42 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:48,963 What about witches riding brooms in Tennessee? 43 00:01:49,088 --> 00:01:50,088 No? 44 00:01:50,213 --> 00:01:51,838 Well, considering the time of year 45 00:01:52,005 --> 00:01:53,713 this next video was recorded, 46 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,713 you have permission to suspend your disbelief. 47 00:01:58,338 --> 00:02:01,255 It's November 2nd, 2021, two days after Halloween. 48 00:02:01,380 --> 00:02:03,255 Lucca Botta is driving his delivery truck 49 00:02:03,380 --> 00:02:05,047 down a residential street in the suburbs 50 00:02:05,172 --> 00:02:06,422 of Nashville, Tennessee. 51 00:02:06,547 --> 00:02:08,880 Suddenly he sees something that makes him pump the brakes, 52 00:02:09,047 --> 00:02:11,672 take out his smartphone, and film this. 53 00:02:11,755 --> 00:02:14,297 - Hey, so, out making deliveries and what is this? 54 00:02:14,380 --> 00:02:16,172 Look, it's just floating. 55 00:02:16,297 --> 00:02:18,047 - [Tony] Something appears to be floating 30 feet 56 00:02:18,172 --> 00:02:19,797 in the air all by itself. 57 00:02:19,922 --> 00:02:21,130 And take a closer look. 58 00:02:21,213 --> 00:02:22,255 Is that a broom? 59 00:02:22,380 --> 00:02:24,422 Lucca gets out of his car to investigate. 60 00:02:25,588 --> 00:02:28,005 - [Lucca] Seriously, it's just floating. 61 00:02:28,088 --> 00:02:30,047 - [Tony] What could this be? 62 00:02:30,213 --> 00:02:33,047 Lucca soon uploads his video to TikTok searching for answers. 63 00:02:33,213 --> 00:02:34,922 And according to author Alexis Brooks, 64 00:02:35,047 --> 00:02:36,463 everybody has an opinion. 65 00:02:36,588 --> 00:02:38,130 - There were plenty of comments. 66 00:02:38,255 --> 00:02:41,547 Everything from amazement to, "This was a hoax", 67 00:02:41,672 --> 00:02:44,963 but Lucca maintains that this was an authentic video. 68 00:02:45,088 --> 00:02:48,213 It had no Photoshopping or whatever. 69 00:02:48,380 --> 00:02:49,672 - [Tony] Could it be the time of year 70 00:02:49,797 --> 00:02:51,838 that explains this strange phenomenon? 71 00:02:51,963 --> 00:02:54,338 - There are many people who believe very strongly 72 00:02:54,422 --> 00:02:55,963 in ritualistic practices. 73 00:02:56,047 --> 00:02:58,005 And this is right around Halloween. 74 00:02:58,130 --> 00:03:00,547 It wouldn't surprise me necessarily 75 00:03:00,713 --> 00:03:03,255 if maybe there was some, let's just call them experiments 76 00:03:03,380 --> 00:03:06,505 going on with those that practice witchcraft. 77 00:03:06,588 --> 00:03:08,672 - [Tony] The earliest known image of a witch on a broom 78 00:03:08,838 --> 00:03:11,297 dates to 1451 in a French manuscript 79 00:03:11,422 --> 00:03:13,088 and some anthropologists theorized 80 00:03:13,213 --> 00:03:14,672 the link between witches and brooms 81 00:03:14,755 --> 00:03:17,338 could be rooted in Pagan fertility ritual. 82 00:03:17,463 --> 00:03:19,130 - So this is something that is quite common, 83 00:03:19,255 --> 00:03:20,130 though it's not talked about, 84 00:03:20,255 --> 00:03:22,380 that doesn't mean it's not practiced. 85 00:03:23,838 --> 00:03:26,005 - In the Wiccan religion, a besom, 86 00:03:26,172 --> 00:03:29,630 which is a broom made out of twigs tied around a stick, 87 00:03:29,713 --> 00:03:32,547 is said to be used as an instrument of purification 88 00:03:32,672 --> 00:03:35,172 to cleanse a space for rituals. 89 00:03:35,338 --> 00:03:37,338 Now whether or not any spells were used 90 00:03:37,463 --> 00:03:40,213 to keep this broomstick in our video afloat, 91 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:42,255 that's for our experts to decide. 92 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:44,963 (tense music) 93 00:03:46,755 --> 00:03:49,505 We begin with forensic video analyst Michael Primeau. 94 00:03:49,588 --> 00:03:52,005 Though Lucca denies it, could this video be faked? 95 00:03:52,172 --> 00:03:54,672 - When the user zooms into this object 96 00:03:54,838 --> 00:03:57,213 from inside of his vehicle, the depth 97 00:03:57,338 --> 00:04:00,505 of field between the smudging on the windshield 98 00:04:00,672 --> 00:04:02,713 and the object is significantly different 99 00:04:02,838 --> 00:04:06,338 and thus is not a result of some sort of camera artifacting. 100 00:04:06,505 --> 00:04:08,338 So the object is there, no evidence of any kind 101 00:04:08,463 --> 00:04:10,797 of Photoshopping or CGI was detected. 102 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,088 - [Tony] Next, we take the video to meteorologist Juan Hernandez. 103 00:04:14,213 --> 00:04:16,172 Perhaps the weather is a key factor. 104 00:04:16,297 --> 00:04:17,672 Are we really looking at a kite? 105 00:04:17,755 --> 00:04:18,797 - The way that the solar radiation 106 00:04:18,922 --> 00:04:21,922 comes into the earth drives a lot of the processes 107 00:04:22,047 --> 00:04:24,797 in the atmosphere that could potentially lead 108 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,172 to some minor changes in weather. 109 00:04:27,338 --> 00:04:29,047 Potential geomagnetic storms 110 00:04:29,213 --> 00:04:32,047 that can create enough electromagnetism 111 00:04:32,213 --> 00:04:34,297 to cause power outages. 112 00:04:34,422 --> 00:04:37,588 So the sun does cause different kinds of phenomena 113 00:04:37,713 --> 00:04:39,797 but not this floating broomstick. 114 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,130 Taking a look at the wind observations from Nashville 115 00:04:42,255 --> 00:04:47,505 that day, winds generally were between 5 to 10 miles an hour. 116 00:04:47,672 --> 00:04:49,338 - [Tony] The average kite can take flight in winds 117 00:04:49,463 --> 00:04:51,672 of at least five miles per hour. 118 00:04:51,755 --> 00:04:54,338 But Hernandez says despite the optimal conditions, 119 00:04:54,463 --> 00:04:55,172 he sees a problem. 120 00:04:55,338 --> 00:04:57,963 - When we look at a flying kite, 121 00:04:58,088 --> 00:05:00,797 you'll see that kite move to the left, move to the right, 122 00:05:00,922 --> 00:05:02,213 descend or ascend. 123 00:05:02,380 --> 00:05:04,630 The witch's broomstick is stationary. 124 00:05:04,755 --> 00:05:08,005 There's no movement which rules out the presence of a kite. 125 00:05:08,088 --> 00:05:10,172 - [Tony] But wait, is it possible for an object 126 00:05:10,338 --> 00:05:12,547 to float by itself in midair? 127 00:05:12,713 --> 00:05:15,797 Believe it or not, physicist Matthew Szydagis says it is. 128 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,713 - So, levitation does exist in real life. 129 00:05:19,838 --> 00:05:23,338 It relies on something called superconductivity 130 00:05:23,463 --> 00:05:25,588 and we do it all the time in laboratories. 131 00:05:25,713 --> 00:05:28,172 And you can find all kinds of videos online. 132 00:05:28,255 --> 00:05:30,047 People using superconductors 133 00:05:30,213 --> 00:05:32,880 and levitating them over a track. 134 00:05:33,005 --> 00:05:35,505 - [Tony] But Szydagis also says there's a catch. 135 00:05:35,630 --> 00:05:38,713 - Superconductors need to be near the magnetic surface. 136 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,797 We're talking a few inches away, 137 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,713 not tens of feet as in this video. 138 00:05:43,838 --> 00:05:47,005 And it only works at cold temperatures. 139 00:05:47,130 --> 00:05:49,213 Liquid nitrogen temperatures. 140 00:05:49,338 --> 00:05:53,338 It's definitely not more than a hundred degrees below zero 141 00:05:53,422 --> 00:05:54,297 in this video. 142 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:55,880 - [Tony] So what do we have here? 143 00:05:56,005 --> 00:05:56,838 Szydagis has a theory. 144 00:05:57,005 --> 00:05:59,547 - The fact that Lucca drove under the broom 145 00:05:59,713 --> 00:06:02,505 and it continued to float tells me it's not supported 146 00:06:02,630 --> 00:06:05,672 then, from below, but probably horizontal. 147 00:06:05,755 --> 00:06:07,422 - [Tony] And Szydagis believes that support 148 00:06:07,547 --> 00:06:08,755 came from a fishing line. 149 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,255 - A fishing line is very thin and very hard to see, 150 00:06:12,380 --> 00:06:14,005 especially from a great distance. 151 00:06:14,172 --> 00:06:17,588 You can use fishing line to suspend objects 152 00:06:17,713 --> 00:06:20,380 and that's how special effects in fact 153 00:06:20,505 --> 00:06:24,338 were done in Hollywood movies before we had CGI 154 00:06:24,505 --> 00:06:27,755 and it was only a few days after Halloween. 155 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,630 Therefore I imagine this was just a Halloween prank 156 00:06:31,755 --> 00:06:35,005 and a very good one at that I would say. 157 00:06:35,172 --> 00:06:37,713 (tense music) 158 00:06:39,005 --> 00:06:41,630 - Now interestingly, we called Lucca 159 00:06:41,713 --> 00:06:44,463 and he told us there were trees around but none of them 160 00:06:44,547 --> 00:06:47,255 were tall enough to attach a fishing line to 161 00:06:47,380 --> 00:06:50,213 and he didn't see any light or telephone poles either. 162 00:06:50,338 --> 00:06:53,547 So, our verdict, we're gonna say hoax. 163 00:06:53,713 --> 00:06:55,422 But a pretty clever one. 164 00:06:55,547 --> 00:06:57,838 In fact, Lucca said the broom later disappeared 165 00:06:57,963 --> 00:07:01,588 suggesting someone moved on to Thanksgiving decorations. 166 00:07:03,130 --> 00:07:06,755 Now for another video with a touch of the supernatural. 167 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,838 We often search for signs and symbols 168 00:07:09,005 --> 00:07:12,172 that loved ones are still with us after they pass away. 169 00:07:12,297 --> 00:07:15,630 But can spirits really return from beyond the grave? 170 00:07:15,713 --> 00:07:18,255 This next video made one mother a believer. 171 00:07:18,380 --> 00:07:19,505 How about you? 172 00:07:20,755 --> 00:07:24,505 It's September 2016 in Legazpi City in the Philippines. 173 00:07:24,630 --> 00:07:27,005 Grieving mother, Joy Alamares is attending the wake 174 00:07:27,130 --> 00:07:29,755 of her seven-year-old son Trevi, who has just died. 175 00:07:31,088 --> 00:07:33,172 Suddenly a white balloon starts moving towards her 176 00:07:33,297 --> 00:07:36,338 from behind the coffin as if it has a life of its own. 177 00:07:36,463 --> 00:07:37,713 You can see from the video that the balloon 178 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,630 gets all the way to Joy and then 179 00:07:39,713 --> 00:07:42,880 rather than moving past her, it suddenly stops. 180 00:07:43,047 --> 00:07:44,005 Now watch. 181 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:46,880 It starts rubbing up against her as if in a caress, 182 00:07:47,005 --> 00:07:49,547 leaving the bereaved mother even more emotional. 183 00:07:49,672 --> 00:07:53,338 - I felt that he was there to comfort me 184 00:07:53,463 --> 00:07:55,463 'cause I was really crying that night. 185 00:07:55,588 --> 00:07:58,130 It's like he hugged me and that's what I felt. 186 00:07:58,213 --> 00:08:02,838 I had goosebumps and I kept on crying out loud more 187 00:08:03,005 --> 00:08:05,297 'cause I felt him and I know that's him 188 00:08:05,422 --> 00:08:09,755 'cause he's like that when he's alive. 189 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,880 - [Tony] Joy believes this is a miraculous sign 190 00:08:12,005 --> 00:08:13,922 her son is sending from the other side, 191 00:08:14,047 --> 00:08:16,963 since he always had a special connection with balloons. 192 00:08:17,088 --> 00:08:20,255 - He really loved balloons since he was really small. 193 00:08:20,380 --> 00:08:25,255 Since it's a funeral, I thought it would be good if it's white. 194 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,588 I thought of him as angel. 195 00:08:27,713 --> 00:08:31,922 - The idea that the mother feels intently 196 00:08:32,047 --> 00:08:34,963 that this child was communicating with her 197 00:08:35,088 --> 00:08:39,630 is known to research in parapsychology, there's a term 198 00:08:39,713 --> 00:08:43,380 called after-death communication or ADC. 199 00:08:43,505 --> 00:08:46,588 There are a variety of ways in which these ADCs can occur, 200 00:08:46,713 --> 00:08:49,213 not the least of which are physical or symbolic ADCs. 201 00:08:50,505 --> 00:08:51,838 - [Tony] According to psychology today, 202 00:08:51,922 --> 00:08:54,005 up to three-quarters of people grieving a loss 203 00:08:54,172 --> 00:08:56,672 report some form of after-death communication. 204 00:08:56,755 --> 00:08:59,005 This communication can include seeing the presence 205 00:08:59,172 --> 00:09:00,172 of a deceased person, 206 00:09:00,297 --> 00:09:02,672 smelling or hearing something associated with them, 207 00:09:02,797 --> 00:09:06,005 or more indirectly, encountering a symbol or animal 208 00:09:06,130 --> 00:09:08,088 with some significance to their lives. 209 00:09:09,505 --> 00:09:12,838 One-fifth of these ADCs are backed by some sort of evidence 210 00:09:12,922 --> 00:09:16,338 such as sensing a death before knowing it's happened 211 00:09:16,463 --> 00:09:17,838 or multiple people sharing 212 00:09:18,005 --> 00:09:20,088 the same experience independently. 213 00:09:20,213 --> 00:09:23,588 So is this balloon really a sign from beyond 214 00:09:23,713 --> 00:09:25,838 or is there some earthly explanation 215 00:09:25,963 --> 00:09:27,297 for what's happening? 216 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:29,130 Let's ask the experts. 217 00:09:29,255 --> 00:09:31,838 (tense music) 218 00:09:33,297 --> 00:09:35,630 Visual engineer and Catholic miracle historian 219 00:09:35,713 --> 00:09:37,630 Michael O'Neill has examined the video 220 00:09:37,713 --> 00:09:39,380 to assess its authenticity. 221 00:09:40,505 --> 00:09:42,213 - We selected this image because we have a variety 222 00:09:42,338 --> 00:09:46,880 of backgrounds so we can see any kind of surface effects, 223 00:09:47,047 --> 00:09:49,338 edge effects where we might see a blend 224 00:09:49,463 --> 00:09:51,338 if it was done imprecisely. 225 00:09:52,547 --> 00:09:53,755 We don't see a lot. 226 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,672 Of course, a balloon is a three-dimensional object, 227 00:09:56,755 --> 00:09:59,505 so, easy in a 3D modeling software to 228 00:09:59,630 --> 00:10:03,047 pick the light source of being off to the left-hand corner. 229 00:10:04,338 --> 00:10:06,838 - [Tony] O'Neill detects no surface or edge effects 230 00:10:06,963 --> 00:10:09,630 indicating the balloon was digitally added, 231 00:10:09,713 --> 00:10:11,505 but has it been physically manipulated? 232 00:10:13,505 --> 00:10:15,922 - One other possibility is that if this balloon 233 00:10:16,047 --> 00:10:18,297 were being dragged around the room, perhaps 234 00:10:18,380 --> 00:10:21,630 by strings at the top, strings at the side, 235 00:10:21,713 --> 00:10:24,505 strings to the back, strings out this way 236 00:10:24,672 --> 00:10:27,838 and the pixels would be duplicated 237 00:10:27,922 --> 00:10:30,880 or drop down to cover that string. 238 00:10:31,047 --> 00:10:33,547 We see no reflections here of any strings, 239 00:10:33,672 --> 00:10:36,088 so we assume that there are no strings. 240 00:10:36,213 --> 00:10:37,838 - [Tony] Then could it simply be air currents 241 00:10:37,963 --> 00:10:39,297 that are moving the balloon through the room? 242 00:10:39,380 --> 00:10:41,838 Astrophysicist, Dr. Hakeem Oluseyi admits 243 00:10:41,963 --> 00:10:44,672 that the balloon does seem to move somewhat erratically. 244 00:10:44,797 --> 00:10:46,838 - For what's visible, it doesn't seem like there 245 00:10:46,963 --> 00:10:49,880 is a really strong source of air current anyway 246 00:10:50,047 --> 00:10:52,130 because if you look at the mother, you look at hair, 247 00:10:52,255 --> 00:10:53,672 you look at things other than the balloon, 248 00:10:53,838 --> 00:10:56,005 you don't see the effect of a wind 249 00:10:56,088 --> 00:10:58,463 that would make the balloon move at that velocity 250 00:10:58,547 --> 00:11:00,588 in that very directed way. 251 00:11:00,713 --> 00:11:01,713 - [Tony] If it's not air movement, 252 00:11:01,838 --> 00:11:04,922 could static electricity be causing this effect? 253 00:11:05,047 --> 00:11:06,255 - You can imagine someone thinking 254 00:11:06,380 --> 00:11:09,422 if I'm on the opposite side of a room from a balloon 255 00:11:09,547 --> 00:11:12,088 and my hair has the opposite electric charge, 256 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:15,380 could I pull that balloon across the room to my hair? 257 00:11:15,505 --> 00:11:18,005 And the answer is a definite no. 258 00:11:18,088 --> 00:11:20,672 If there was that much static electricity built up 259 00:11:20,797 --> 00:11:21,838 between you and the balloon, 260 00:11:21,922 --> 00:11:23,672 you'd probably have a big lightning bolt 261 00:11:23,838 --> 00:11:25,338 between the two of you. 262 00:11:26,422 --> 00:11:28,297 - [Tony] Oluseyi adds that larger objects 263 00:11:28,422 --> 00:11:31,713 store more energy during a buildup of static electricity, 264 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,172 so a balloon's charge would be relatively weak. 265 00:11:34,297 --> 00:11:36,588 So we certainly can't rule out coincidence. 266 00:11:36,713 --> 00:11:38,588 A barely perceptible movement of air 267 00:11:38,713 --> 00:11:40,005 plus some level of static attraction 268 00:11:40,172 --> 00:11:42,088 as the balloon gets closer to the mother 269 00:11:42,213 --> 00:11:43,880 but it's open to interpretation. 270 00:11:45,213 --> 00:11:48,005 - The balloon is moving in a way that we would not expect. 271 00:11:48,172 --> 00:11:50,505 So that implies something is going on. 272 00:11:50,672 --> 00:11:52,672 My natural explanation would be, 273 00:11:52,755 --> 00:11:56,463 of course it's a fake, of course, but I can't prove it. 274 00:11:56,588 --> 00:11:57,672 Is it divine intervention? 275 00:11:57,755 --> 00:11:59,463 Is it somehow the soul hanging on 276 00:11:59,588 --> 00:12:02,672 for some extra time before going to heaven? 277 00:12:02,797 --> 00:12:03,922 Anything's possible. 278 00:12:04,047 --> 00:12:05,755 - [Tony] And as for Joy. 279 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,922 - That made me believe that there's so much more 280 00:12:08,047 --> 00:12:09,213 in this world. 281 00:12:09,380 --> 00:12:12,422 There's really spirits and they're just here with us. 282 00:12:12,547 --> 00:12:15,255 (tense music) 283 00:12:16,672 --> 00:12:17,797 - Our verdict here, 284 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,380 this is an unexplained phenomenon. 285 00:12:20,547 --> 00:12:22,838 Though there is a chance this is all staged, 286 00:12:22,922 --> 00:12:25,672 there is no proof of that from the forensics 287 00:12:25,797 --> 00:12:27,672 and if a balloon can ease the suffering 288 00:12:27,838 --> 00:12:30,297 of a grieving mother, that just might be 289 00:12:30,422 --> 00:12:31,880 a miracle in itself. 290 00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:37,005 - You've heard about it raining cats and dogs, 291 00:12:37,130 --> 00:12:39,213 but what about blobs? 292 00:12:39,338 --> 00:12:41,880 Our next story is probably the weirdest weather report 293 00:12:42,047 --> 00:12:43,172 you've ever seen. 294 00:12:44,047 --> 00:12:46,005 August 7th, 1994. 295 00:12:46,172 --> 00:12:49,005 A storm unlike any other descends upon the small city 296 00:12:49,130 --> 00:12:50,838 of Oakville, Washington. 297 00:12:50,963 --> 00:12:53,797 But hold up, this is no conventional rainstorm. 298 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,338 Instead of pouring down raindrops, 299 00:12:55,422 --> 00:12:57,130 something else falls from the sky. 300 00:12:58,505 --> 00:13:00,047 (uneasy music) 301 00:13:00,213 --> 00:13:02,922 Oakville resident Sunny Barclift takes these photos 302 00:13:03,047 --> 00:13:05,505 of what can only be described as blobbering. 303 00:13:05,630 --> 00:13:06,172 It's not water. 304 00:13:06,338 --> 00:13:08,338 The blobs appear to be comprised 305 00:13:08,422 --> 00:13:11,047 of a translucent gelatinous substance 306 00:13:11,213 --> 00:13:13,672 and in some photos, wait for it, 307 00:13:13,755 --> 00:13:15,588 they're accompanied by dead frogs. 308 00:13:15,713 --> 00:13:16,838 Can it get any stranger? 309 00:13:17,005 --> 00:13:18,255 Yes it can. 310 00:13:18,380 --> 00:13:20,880 Just after the blob rain, Sunny's mother falls ill, 311 00:13:21,047 --> 00:13:22,838 prompting Sunny to send a sample of the blobs 312 00:13:22,963 --> 00:13:24,880 to Dr. Dave Little and the lab findings 313 00:13:25,047 --> 00:13:26,213 only add to the mystery. 314 00:13:26,380 --> 00:13:29,255 - The specimen was like fresh gelatin. 315 00:13:29,380 --> 00:13:32,797 It was handed over to our laboratory 316 00:13:32,922 --> 00:13:35,213 and viewed under a microscope, 317 00:13:35,338 --> 00:13:37,838 but my laboratory was not equipped 318 00:13:38,005 --> 00:13:41,338 to ascertain the exact chemical nature. 319 00:13:41,463 --> 00:13:44,463 - [Tony] This rain of blobs blankets a 20-square-mile area 320 00:13:44,588 --> 00:13:47,130 and falls a total of six times over three weeks. 321 00:13:47,213 --> 00:13:51,630 It falls on trees, grass, cars, and of course people. 322 00:13:51,755 --> 00:13:55,172 - Within days people were reporting vomiting, nausea, 323 00:13:55,297 --> 00:13:57,422 disorientation, trouble thinking. 324 00:13:57,547 --> 00:13:59,297 It was almost like they had the flu, 325 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:02,005 but symptoms persisted for two to three months. 326 00:14:02,088 --> 00:14:05,172 And animals like cats and dogs that came into contact 327 00:14:05,338 --> 00:14:08,213 with the goo ended up getting sick and dying. 328 00:14:08,380 --> 00:14:10,297 - [Tony] But further lab tests of the blobs 329 00:14:10,422 --> 00:14:11,338 do reveal a clue. 330 00:14:11,463 --> 00:14:13,505 - They found that the blobs contained cells 331 00:14:13,588 --> 00:14:17,213 with nuclei saying that they were biological material 332 00:14:17,338 --> 00:14:20,338 and found two very harmful types of bacteria. 333 00:14:20,463 --> 00:14:22,547 One is a food spoiler and the other 334 00:14:22,713 --> 00:14:24,963 is found in the human gut. 335 00:14:25,088 --> 00:14:26,088 - [Tony] So what could have caused 336 00:14:26,213 --> 00:14:29,088 such an inexplicable form of precipitation? 337 00:14:29,213 --> 00:14:32,047 - [Amy] The Bible talks a lot about rains and storms. 338 00:14:32,172 --> 00:14:33,463 Sometimes it's a prophecy 339 00:14:33,547 --> 00:14:36,130 bringing something deeply negative. 340 00:14:36,255 --> 00:14:40,338 One Bible verse, in particular, Ezekiel 38:22 341 00:14:40,505 --> 00:14:45,213 talks about a plague of blood by torrents of rain and hail. 342 00:14:45,380 --> 00:14:47,172 - [Tony] Another theory goes that this may have been 343 00:14:47,297 --> 00:14:49,172 the doing of a more earthly power. 344 00:14:49,297 --> 00:14:51,463 - Some thought that weather over the ocean 345 00:14:51,588 --> 00:14:54,380 had somehow stirred up enough living beings 346 00:14:54,505 --> 00:14:57,130 like jellyfish that were shot out of the water 347 00:14:57,213 --> 00:14:59,213 and sucked up into clouds where they were able 348 00:14:59,380 --> 00:15:02,838 to rain back down on residents. 349 00:15:02,922 --> 00:15:04,505 But no one's been able to figure out 350 00:15:04,588 --> 00:15:06,297 exactly what happened in Oakville. 351 00:15:08,630 --> 00:15:11,922 - Prior to the blob storm, Oakville residents noticed 352 00:15:12,047 --> 00:15:13,838 that there were military aircraft 353 00:15:13,922 --> 00:15:15,963 in their skies almost daily. 354 00:15:16,088 --> 00:15:18,172 Many began to wonder if the U.S. Government 355 00:15:18,297 --> 00:15:20,505 had anything to do with what happened. 356 00:15:20,672 --> 00:15:23,172 The Air Force denied knowledge of the incident, 357 00:15:23,255 --> 00:15:26,963 so the townspeople had to explore other explanations. 358 00:15:27,088 --> 00:15:28,797 Our experts are here to help. 359 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,463 (tense music) 360 00:15:32,713 --> 00:15:35,213 First, we turn to physicist Matthew Szydagis. 361 00:15:35,380 --> 00:15:37,255 Is it possible these are jellyfish brought 362 00:15:37,380 --> 00:15:39,380 to land by some freak event? 363 00:15:39,547 --> 00:15:43,130 - Oakville is not that far from the ocean. 364 00:15:43,255 --> 00:15:46,713 Maybe a water spout could have picked up some material 365 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,797 from the ocean and deposited it as precipitation. 366 00:15:50,922 --> 00:15:53,213 - [Tony] Water spouts are tornado-like vortices 367 00:15:53,380 --> 00:15:55,213 that occur over bodies of water. 368 00:15:55,380 --> 00:15:58,130 In theory, they can bring sea life like jellyfish, ashore 369 00:15:58,255 --> 00:16:00,422 but the evidence doesn't harmonize with that theory. 370 00:16:00,547 --> 00:16:04,338 - I don't believe anyone found any pieces of jellyfish 371 00:16:04,463 --> 00:16:07,630 and that wouldn't explain why the particular cells 372 00:16:07,755 --> 00:16:09,963 and bacteria were found in the blobs. 373 00:16:10,088 --> 00:16:12,213 - [Tony] Okay, now for a grosser theory, 374 00:16:12,338 --> 00:16:14,713 and it may explain the human gut bacteria 375 00:16:14,838 --> 00:16:16,172 that was found in the blobs. 376 00:16:16,338 --> 00:16:18,005 Could it be from an airplane restroom? 377 00:16:18,172 --> 00:16:19,672 Don't think it hasn't happened. 378 00:16:19,797 --> 00:16:22,672 As recently as 2021, a man standing in his garden 379 00:16:22,797 --> 00:16:24,922 in Windsor, England was accidentally splattered 380 00:16:25,047 --> 00:16:28,547 in human waste as an airplane approached Heathrow airport. 381 00:16:28,713 --> 00:16:30,672 But in Oakville, the evidence doesn't line up 382 00:16:30,797 --> 00:16:31,838 with that theory. 383 00:16:32,005 --> 00:16:36,505 - The FAA has tremendously denied that we had human waste 384 00:16:36,630 --> 00:16:39,213 that had been dropped from airplanes. 385 00:16:39,380 --> 00:16:43,005 Furthermore, airlines will have the bluish tint 386 00:16:43,130 --> 00:16:45,963 to the fluid used in the waste system. 387 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:47,213 - [Tony] Blue dye is routinely added 388 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:49,297 to airplane toilets as a disinfectant, 389 00:16:49,422 --> 00:16:51,672 but no blue was seen in the Oakville blobs. 390 00:16:51,797 --> 00:16:52,838 - [Matthew] We saw white in the photos. 391 00:16:52,963 --> 00:16:56,672 So not only would it have been unethical, illegal, 392 00:16:56,797 --> 00:16:57,672 it's the wrong color. 393 00:16:57,797 --> 00:16:59,713 - [Tony] So could this be a weather phenomenon? 394 00:16:59,838 --> 00:17:03,005 Not exactly, according to meteorologist Juan Hernandez. 395 00:17:03,088 --> 00:17:04,172 But he thinks it's related. 396 00:17:04,297 --> 00:17:07,838 - Before there was any research done on this substance, 397 00:17:07,922 --> 00:17:10,338 this was actually called star jelly. 398 00:17:10,505 --> 00:17:15,255 When any animal eats a spawn of a toad or a frog, 399 00:17:15,380 --> 00:17:17,672 there's always some sort of jelly 400 00:17:17,838 --> 00:17:19,755 that is attached to those eggs. 401 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,672 - [Tony] The next part of the puzzle is moisture. 402 00:17:21,797 --> 00:17:24,005 When enough rainfall combines with the jelly attached 403 00:17:24,172 --> 00:17:25,755 to the eggs, it expands. 404 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,630 - [Juan] There was about a quarter of an inch of rain 405 00:17:28,755 --> 00:17:30,505 in this specific location. 406 00:17:30,672 --> 00:17:33,172 A quarter of an inch of rain should be enough 407 00:17:33,338 --> 00:17:35,963 to allow for the jelly to expand. 408 00:17:36,088 --> 00:17:38,380 - [Tony] So the theory is that animals ate frog eggs, 409 00:17:38,547 --> 00:17:41,213 vomited them up, and then the rain expanded them. 410 00:17:41,380 --> 00:17:44,713 Though that would explain the frogs, Szydagis isn't sold. 411 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,880 - We have numerous witnesses including credible witnesses 412 00:17:49,005 --> 00:17:52,380 like police officers from Oakville saying 413 00:17:52,547 --> 00:17:54,505 that this rained down from the sky, 414 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:56,297 hitting their windshields. 415 00:17:56,422 --> 00:17:58,838 - [Tony] And Szydagis also notes that frogs don't explain 416 00:17:58,963 --> 00:18:00,880 the human connection found in the samples. 417 00:18:01,047 --> 00:18:03,797 - I would also like to know how animals manage 418 00:18:03,922 --> 00:18:07,255 to swallow human gut bacteria. 419 00:18:07,380 --> 00:18:09,547 And if that was the case, how do you get 420 00:18:09,713 --> 00:18:13,672 so many animals sick at the same time, 421 00:18:13,797 --> 00:18:16,297 multiple times in the same area? 422 00:18:16,422 --> 00:18:19,047 (tense music) 423 00:18:21,213 --> 00:18:24,838 - Our verdict, unidentified living substance. 424 00:18:25,005 --> 00:18:28,380 We explored theories like jellyfish, star jelly, 425 00:18:28,505 --> 00:18:30,838 and airplane waste, but that doesn't explain 426 00:18:30,922 --> 00:18:33,713 what eyewitnesses saw coming directly out of the sky. 427 00:18:37,297 --> 00:18:39,672 - Of our five senses, hearing is the fastest. 428 00:18:39,797 --> 00:18:41,755 While it takes the human brain at least one-quarter 429 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,463 of a second to process visual recognition, 430 00:18:44,588 --> 00:18:48,422 we can perceive a sound five times quicker than that. 431 00:18:48,547 --> 00:18:51,797 But identifying strange sounds is another matter. 432 00:18:51,922 --> 00:18:54,672 That's what makes our next story so intriguing. 433 00:18:55,713 --> 00:18:58,672 April 3rd, 2020 in Bratislava, Slovakia. 434 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,755 A local man is on his balcony overlooking a park 435 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,505 with the skyline in the distance 436 00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:06,338 when he records this mysterious sound. 437 00:19:06,463 --> 00:19:09,797 (otherworldly echoing) 438 00:19:11,797 --> 00:19:14,130 (otherworldly echoing) 439 00:19:14,213 --> 00:19:17,088 It's a menacing noise coming from off in the distance. 440 00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:21,380 It almost sounds like a deep, raspy, mechanical breathing. 441 00:19:21,547 --> 00:19:24,713 (otherworldly echoing) 442 00:19:26,297 --> 00:19:27,713 It's repetitive and each breath 443 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,672 is approximately two seconds long. 444 00:19:31,463 --> 00:19:34,838 (otherworldly echoing) 445 00:19:36,713 --> 00:19:38,713 Science journalist Amy Teitel says the sound 446 00:19:38,838 --> 00:19:41,672 may come from Earth's electromagnetic fields. 447 00:19:41,838 --> 00:19:44,672 First discovered in 1820, we know these fields proliferate 448 00:19:44,838 --> 00:19:46,838 at the speed of light and interact with charges 449 00:19:46,963 --> 00:19:49,672 and currents in a way that distributes energy. 450 00:19:51,088 --> 00:19:54,172 But Teitel sets a theory that they do more than that. 451 00:19:54,255 --> 00:19:57,005 - Some people believe that the electromagnetic fields 452 00:19:57,088 --> 00:19:59,672 that occur on the earth naturally interact 453 00:19:59,797 --> 00:20:01,922 and cycle and that these cycles ultimately 454 00:20:02,047 --> 00:20:04,922 produce thunderstorms, lightning strikes, 455 00:20:05,047 --> 00:20:07,963 and the big weather that we experience. 456 00:20:08,088 --> 00:20:10,588 - [Tony] The theory is known as Schumann resonances 457 00:20:10,713 --> 00:20:12,963 and Teitel cites an even more out-there theory. 458 00:20:14,088 --> 00:20:16,088 - One theory was that it was the sound 459 00:20:16,213 --> 00:20:17,422 of the earth's heartbeat. 460 00:20:17,547 --> 00:20:19,172 (otherworldly echoing) 461 00:20:19,255 --> 00:20:21,672 This video is those electromagnetic fields 462 00:20:21,838 --> 00:20:25,172 oscillating and crossing over the planet's surface. 463 00:20:25,255 --> 00:20:27,005 - [Tony] Investigative journalist MJ Banias 464 00:20:27,088 --> 00:20:29,547 says the idea that earth is a living being 465 00:20:29,713 --> 00:20:31,755 is something humans have long pondered. 466 00:20:33,172 --> 00:20:36,422 - A lot of cultures believe that the earth itself 467 00:20:36,547 --> 00:20:39,380 is somehow alive and at times it attempts 468 00:20:39,547 --> 00:20:40,880 to communicate with us. 469 00:20:41,005 --> 00:20:43,463 There are sort of weird occurrences. 470 00:20:43,547 --> 00:20:45,922 In 2018, scientific instruments 471 00:20:46,047 --> 00:20:48,922 picked up this bizarre seismic activity. 472 00:20:49,047 --> 00:20:52,880 Associated with the seismic activity were testimonies 473 00:20:53,047 --> 00:20:56,838 that the earth rang like a bell as if signaling something. 474 00:20:57,005 --> 00:20:58,755 Some people believe the planet is trying 475 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,713 to communicate on its own behalf to tell us 476 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,755 to pollute less, to be less destructive. 477 00:21:05,713 --> 00:21:06,880 - [Tony] Or on a more practical note, 478 00:21:07,047 --> 00:21:10,130 perhaps the phenomenon was caused by some mechanical force 479 00:21:10,213 --> 00:21:11,172 like an aircraft. 480 00:21:11,297 --> 00:21:13,755 - Some aircraft fly at incredibly high altitudes, 481 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,297 80,000 feet in the air and could travel at speeds 482 00:21:17,422 --> 00:21:18,463 as high as Mach 3. 483 00:21:18,547 --> 00:21:21,880 What occurs is this phenomenon known as the sonic boom. 484 00:21:22,047 --> 00:21:24,838 As the aircraft goes faster than the speed of sound, 485 00:21:24,922 --> 00:21:27,297 it's breaking literally the barrier of sound. 486 00:21:29,297 --> 00:21:31,588 - What makes this event even more anomalous 487 00:21:31,713 --> 00:21:36,130 is that it was a clear sunny day with no signs of extreme weather 488 00:21:36,255 --> 00:21:39,005 or strange activity in the skies above. 489 00:21:39,130 --> 00:21:41,672 So what could be causing these sounds? 490 00:21:41,797 --> 00:21:45,422 Is the earth really breathing audibly? 491 00:21:45,547 --> 00:21:47,213 Let's listen to our experts. 492 00:21:47,380 --> 00:21:49,130 (tense music) 493 00:21:49,255 --> 00:21:51,172 Soundscape ecologist Ben Gottesman starts 494 00:21:51,297 --> 00:21:53,630 by addressing the sonic boom theory. 495 00:21:53,755 --> 00:21:55,088 (sonic static) 496 00:21:55,213 --> 00:21:58,047 - We have energy up to five kilohertz, 497 00:21:58,213 --> 00:22:01,838 but really most of that energy is below 300 hertz. 498 00:22:01,963 --> 00:22:04,172 So, low-frequency. 499 00:22:04,338 --> 00:22:06,755 Contrast that with what we have in Slovakia. 500 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,005 (otherworldly echoing) 501 00:22:09,172 --> 00:22:10,838 You have a slightly longer signal. 502 00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,755 It doesn't have that double boom. 503 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,005 - [Tony] The reason for the double boom 504 00:22:14,088 --> 00:22:17,297 is that aircraft generate two shockwaves called cones, 505 00:22:17,422 --> 00:22:19,463 one at its nose and another at its tail. 506 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:22,005 This can sometimes result in a slight time lapse 507 00:22:22,172 --> 00:22:24,172 occurring between the two cone sounds 508 00:22:24,297 --> 00:22:26,755 as the noise reaches the human ear. 509 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,963 (sonic boom static) 510 00:22:28,047 --> 00:22:31,047 - And with the sonic boom as a plane passes, 511 00:22:31,213 --> 00:22:34,255 you've got that one low-frequency boom. 512 00:22:35,047 --> 00:22:37,130 (sonic boom crackling) 513 00:22:38,047 --> 00:22:41,005 (otherworldly echoing) 514 00:22:42,172 --> 00:22:44,588 But here we see this sound repeated five times. 515 00:22:44,713 --> 00:22:48,838 So for those reasons, we can say that the Slovakia sound 516 00:22:48,922 --> 00:22:50,338 is not a sonic boom. 517 00:22:50,463 --> 00:22:52,172 - [Tony] Gottesman then digs into the idea 518 00:22:52,255 --> 00:22:54,047 of the planet having some sort of heartbeat. 519 00:22:54,213 --> 00:22:56,130 - We have thousands of lightning storms 520 00:22:56,255 --> 00:23:00,130 happening all around us that bounce from the earth's surface 521 00:23:00,255 --> 00:23:03,380 to some part of the ionosphere and back again. 522 00:23:03,547 --> 00:23:07,880 Those sound waves create this low-frequency resonance 523 00:23:08,005 --> 00:23:09,505 that's coined the Schumann resonance. 524 00:23:09,672 --> 00:23:12,338 While that is a really interesting phenomenon, 525 00:23:12,505 --> 00:23:15,338 it doesn't really come into play here 526 00:23:15,505 --> 00:23:20,338 because the sounds in Slovakia are much too high 527 00:23:20,505 --> 00:23:23,338 and have very different characteristics 528 00:23:23,505 --> 00:23:25,380 in terms of their temporal patterns. 529 00:23:25,547 --> 00:23:27,505 - [Tony] Gottesman then uses sonic comparisons 530 00:23:27,630 --> 00:23:29,838 to explore the possibility that this sound 531 00:23:29,963 --> 00:23:31,713 came from inside the earth, 532 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,713 not in the form of a mystical heartbeat, 533 00:23:33,838 --> 00:23:35,713 but rather as seismic activity. 534 00:23:35,838 --> 00:23:37,297 - There's earthquakes. 535 00:23:37,380 --> 00:23:40,172 (ground rumbling) 536 00:23:42,380 --> 00:23:45,463 Almost all the energy is below 200 hertz. 537 00:23:45,547 --> 00:23:48,422 This is a low-frequency rumble continuous. 538 00:23:48,547 --> 00:23:50,588 That is very different than what we see here. 539 00:23:50,713 --> 00:23:51,672 (otherworldly echoing) 540 00:23:51,755 --> 00:23:52,797 - [Tony] What could this be then? 541 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,463 Gottesman tries a number of comparisons 542 00:23:54,547 --> 00:23:56,547 until he comes upon something that works. 543 00:23:56,713 --> 00:23:59,213 He runs an experiment comparing the Slovakia sound 544 00:23:59,338 --> 00:24:01,380 to this recording of a metal bowl being struck 545 00:24:01,547 --> 00:24:02,255 with a hammer. 546 00:24:02,380 --> 00:24:05,172 (hammer and metal clanging) 547 00:24:05,297 --> 00:24:08,088 - What I'm going to do is speed down the sound 548 00:24:08,213 --> 00:24:11,130 and we can see how that changes the frequency 549 00:24:11,213 --> 00:24:14,713 of the sound and also the temporal aspects. 550 00:24:15,630 --> 00:24:16,380 (hammer clanging) 551 00:24:16,505 --> 00:24:19,172 And now it's low-frequency dominated. 552 00:24:19,297 --> 00:24:21,255 We lost all the high-frequency stuff. 553 00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:24,338 But what if we take that and speed it up? 554 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,838 (hammer clanging) 555 00:24:26,922 --> 00:24:28,505 That sounds remarkably similar 556 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:32,380 to somebody just hitting something with a hammer. 557 00:24:33,213 --> 00:24:35,922 (hammer clanging) 558 00:24:36,047 --> 00:24:39,922 (otherworldly echoing) 559 00:24:40,047 --> 00:24:41,130 I think it's a fake video. 560 00:24:41,255 --> 00:24:45,005 This person created some sound by hitting a hammer 561 00:24:45,130 --> 00:24:48,713 on a piece of metal and then slowed it down. 562 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,297 (tense music) 563 00:24:52,963 --> 00:24:55,672 - Our verdict, this video was faked. 564 00:24:55,797 --> 00:24:58,338 The strange sounds heard in Bratislava had less 565 00:24:58,505 --> 00:25:01,338 to do with Schumann resonances and more 566 00:25:01,505 --> 00:25:03,588 to do with slowing down a recording of a hammer 567 00:25:03,713 --> 00:25:07,005 or other object to make it sound otherworldly. 568 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,838 But there are still plenty of sounds on the planet 569 00:25:09,963 --> 00:25:11,880 that remain a complete mystery 570 00:25:12,005 --> 00:25:13,713 and we'll keep searching for clues. 571 00:25:17,547 --> 00:25:20,505 - In a previous episode, we explored the phenomenon 572 00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:23,255 of UFO sightings near active volcanoes. 573 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:25,505 In that instance, it was this volcano in Iceland, 574 00:25:25,630 --> 00:25:27,463 but the real hotspot for such sightings 575 00:25:27,588 --> 00:25:31,797 is over here in North America, just south of the Rio Grande. 576 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,755 And this latest video caused an internet eruption 577 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,130 of its own. 578 00:25:37,005 --> 00:25:39,297 January 24th, 2017. 579 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:41,922 It's early evening in the skies over Mexico City. 580 00:25:42,047 --> 00:25:44,338 Webcams around the country livestream images 581 00:25:44,422 --> 00:25:47,672 of Mexico's national monuments and cultural treasures. 582 00:25:47,797 --> 00:25:50,755 But no one ever expected them to capture this. 583 00:25:52,505 --> 00:25:54,047 A small light appears to launch 584 00:25:54,213 --> 00:25:56,547 from the top of Popocatepetl volcano 585 00:25:56,713 --> 00:25:58,422 known locally as El Popo. 586 00:25:58,547 --> 00:26:00,505 But look closely, the light flies closer 587 00:26:00,672 --> 00:26:02,755 and closer to the camera when suddenly, 588 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:06,422 it explodes into a glowing orb 589 00:26:06,547 --> 00:26:09,005 and climbs up into the atmosphere. 590 00:26:09,088 --> 00:26:11,713 (intense music) 591 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,255 And look at this. 592 00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:17,255 The second camera facing El Popo on a different day. 593 00:26:17,380 --> 00:26:19,172 What are these glowing orbs we're seeing 594 00:26:19,297 --> 00:26:21,088 at different times around the volcano? 595 00:26:21,213 --> 00:26:22,255 And are they related? 596 00:26:24,088 --> 00:26:26,297 Paty Contreras, director of digital strategy 597 00:26:26,422 --> 00:26:28,672 for webcams in Mexico, says she wasn't even sure 598 00:26:28,797 --> 00:26:30,130 what was going on. 599 00:26:33,005 --> 00:26:34,505 what is happening here? 600 00:26:35,672 --> 00:26:38,088 This is not a plane, this is not a drone, 601 00:26:38,213 --> 00:26:42,463 what is this thing exploding in the sky? 602 00:26:51,588 --> 00:26:53,338 - [Tony] In fact, Mexico is seventh in the world 603 00:26:53,505 --> 00:26:54,713 when it comes to UFO sightings 604 00:26:54,838 --> 00:26:57,547 with several reported near El Popo each year. 605 00:26:57,713 --> 00:26:59,672 But why do these unidentified objects seem 606 00:26:59,838 --> 00:27:01,630 to be attracted to volcanoes? 607 00:27:02,672 --> 00:27:04,672 According to journalist MJ Banias, it may be 608 00:27:04,797 --> 00:27:07,963 because UFOs need volcanoes for camouflage and energy. 609 00:27:08,047 --> 00:27:10,838 - [MJ] Some people believe that the UFOs are attracted 610 00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:13,672 because of all the heat it emits. 611 00:27:13,797 --> 00:27:16,172 - [Tony] Banias says some believe UFOs are using cracks 612 00:27:16,338 --> 00:27:18,505 in the volcano to hide and refuel. 613 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:22,338 - On one side of the volcano is a large vent 614 00:27:22,463 --> 00:27:27,047 that often is spewing hot ash and lava 615 00:27:27,172 --> 00:27:29,213 and some people believe this is 616 00:27:29,338 --> 00:27:32,297 the point of entry and exit for UFOs. 617 00:27:32,422 --> 00:27:36,297 They use the volcano as a sort of base of operations. 618 00:27:37,422 --> 00:27:40,255 - From March to May 2021, state cameras 619 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:43,922 over El Popo captured at least five instances 620 00:27:44,047 --> 00:27:46,255 of lights flashing above the volcano. 621 00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:49,005 Are the lights a product of Mother Earth 622 00:27:49,088 --> 00:27:52,255 or are they from mother someplace else? 623 00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:55,255 We turn the footage over to our experts to decide. 624 00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:57,880 (tense music) 625 00:27:59,380 --> 00:28:01,713 First, we ask Rich Hoffman to examine the video 626 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,797 of the bright light seen over Mexico City. 627 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,505 Could it be a real UFO? 628 00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:07,463 In this case, Hoffman is skeptical. 629 00:28:07,588 --> 00:28:08,755 - The brilliance of this light 630 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,630 going over a major city should have yielded all kinds 631 00:28:12,713 --> 00:28:15,672 of reports about this huge ball of light. 632 00:28:15,797 --> 00:28:17,755 But then you look to see if there's any evidence 633 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,380 for any kind of an indication of UFO reports 634 00:28:20,505 --> 00:28:22,880 or sightings on that given day and there are none. 635 00:28:23,047 --> 00:28:25,338 It was a big ball of light that came from the volcano 636 00:28:25,422 --> 00:28:28,505 and none of the geologists are talking about it 637 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:30,588 and none of the people in the city? 638 00:28:30,713 --> 00:28:31,672 - [Tony] So what are we looking at? 639 00:28:31,838 --> 00:28:34,630 Hoffman says the location and the light itself 640 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:35,713 yields a clue. 641 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,672 - It just so happens that a little bit to the right 642 00:28:37,797 --> 00:28:40,297 of that camera over in the distance, 643 00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:43,338 there is Puebla International Airport. 644 00:28:43,463 --> 00:28:46,088 The aircraft are supposed to turn on their landing lights 645 00:28:46,213 --> 00:28:48,630 when they're below 10,000 feet. 646 00:28:48,713 --> 00:28:51,547 They don't use landing lights when they just are landing, 647 00:28:51,672 --> 00:28:53,880 they use 'em when they're also taking off 648 00:28:54,005 --> 00:28:56,838 or if they're also gonna be changing their altitude. 649 00:28:56,922 --> 00:28:58,338 - [Tony] By looking at a map of the city 650 00:28:58,505 --> 00:29:00,130 and using a little math, Hoffman 651 00:29:00,213 --> 00:29:01,505 has more evidence for his theory. 652 00:29:01,630 --> 00:29:05,005 - I also did a thing to compute the speed. 653 00:29:05,172 --> 00:29:06,755 If it would be coming from the airport, 654 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,672 it would be about six and a half miles away. 655 00:29:09,755 --> 00:29:12,588 You put that in terms of the fact that it took 55 seconds 656 00:29:12,713 --> 00:29:16,505 before it came just directly above the web camera 657 00:29:16,672 --> 00:29:17,672 and you come up with the fact 658 00:29:17,755 --> 00:29:22,047 that it's within about 425 miles per hour, 659 00:29:22,172 --> 00:29:25,922 which is typically about the speed of a commercial aircraft. 660 00:29:26,047 --> 00:29:29,463 I also used flight radar to be able to see the air traffic 661 00:29:29,588 --> 00:29:32,297 coming out of that particular airport 662 00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:35,338 and I was able to actually look at the actual type of aircraft. 663 00:29:35,463 --> 00:29:38,963 It's an Airbus 321 that takes off from there, 664 00:29:39,047 --> 00:29:40,588 that heads over to Cancun. 665 00:29:41,755 --> 00:29:43,047 - [Tony] But what about the video 666 00:29:43,172 --> 00:29:45,005 with the floating, glowing orbs? 667 00:29:45,088 --> 00:29:47,672 Next, we go to astronomer and video effects designer, 668 00:29:47,755 --> 00:29:48,797 Marc D'Antonio. 669 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,672 Could the objects have come from the volcano itself? 670 00:29:51,755 --> 00:29:53,672 - One of the things that I thought about when trying 671 00:29:53,797 --> 00:29:56,047 to look at these objects, I was trying to say, 672 00:29:56,213 --> 00:29:58,047 are those embers? 673 00:29:58,213 --> 00:30:00,672 And the problem is if they're embers, 674 00:30:00,755 --> 00:30:02,547 they seem to stay the same brightness 675 00:30:02,713 --> 00:30:04,672 for quite a long period of time, 676 00:30:04,797 --> 00:30:06,797 and that's the problem I have with it. 677 00:30:06,922 --> 00:30:08,505 - [Tony] What if the camera is simply capturing 678 00:30:08,672 --> 00:30:11,255 a light source from the natural world up close? 679 00:30:11,380 --> 00:30:13,088 Namely the insect variety. 680 00:30:13,213 --> 00:30:14,172 - One would think that these 681 00:30:14,255 --> 00:30:16,922 could also be fireflies except that fireflies, 682 00:30:17,047 --> 00:30:19,505 they're not like a constant light flying around. 683 00:30:19,672 --> 00:30:22,630 They actually flash their light and then that's it. 684 00:30:22,755 --> 00:30:24,713 You see a bright dot followed by a trail 685 00:30:24,838 --> 00:30:27,213 and that's not what we see here. 686 00:30:27,380 --> 00:30:28,838 So I don't think they're fireflies at all. 687 00:30:29,005 --> 00:30:30,838 - [Tony] In fact, D'Antonio isn't sure 688 00:30:30,963 --> 00:30:32,630 if they're from the natural world at all. 689 00:30:32,713 --> 00:30:33,755 - [Marc] If they're real, 690 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,380 they're acting unlike anything I've seen. 691 00:30:36,505 --> 00:30:39,838 (tense music) 692 00:30:39,963 --> 00:30:43,047 - Our verdict, we're going with a mixed decision here. 693 00:30:43,213 --> 00:30:45,963 While Hoffman makes a solid case for the exploding light 694 00:30:46,088 --> 00:30:49,005 being an airplane, we're still not sure what we're seeing 695 00:30:49,172 --> 00:30:50,005 in the other video. 696 00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:53,005 But one thing is for sure, strange objects 697 00:30:53,088 --> 00:30:55,422 near volcanoes appear to be a real phenomenon 698 00:30:55,547 --> 00:30:56,880 around the world. 699 00:30:57,005 --> 00:30:59,588 So while some strange sightings near El Popo 700 00:30:59,713 --> 00:31:02,630 can be explained, we're still on the lookout 701 00:31:02,713 --> 00:31:04,047 and you should be too. 702 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,088 - Have you ever woken up from a deep slumber 703 00:31:10,213 --> 00:31:12,505 and not known where you were for a second or two? 704 00:31:12,672 --> 00:31:14,880 Well, the woman in our next clip certainly had cause 705 00:31:15,047 --> 00:31:17,422 for confusion after she woke up in what appeared 706 00:31:17,547 --> 00:31:20,963 to be a completely different dimension. 707 00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:22,005 (tense music) 708 00:31:22,088 --> 00:31:25,338 It's late September 2019 in the coastal town 709 00:31:25,505 --> 00:31:27,505 of Weston-Super-Mare in England. 710 00:31:27,672 --> 00:31:29,672 One morning, a local woman wakes up bewildered 711 00:31:29,797 --> 00:31:31,463 at what's taking place in her bedroom. 712 00:31:31,547 --> 00:31:33,838 She grabs her phone and starts recording. 713 00:31:35,088 --> 00:31:39,130 - [Witness] I'm in my bedroom and I'm looking at the wall. 714 00:31:39,213 --> 00:31:43,338 What is this sorcery that is happening? 715 00:31:43,505 --> 00:31:45,672 - [Tony] The woman holds up her hand in front of the wall 716 00:31:45,755 --> 00:31:46,880 in a state of utter shock. 717 00:31:47,005 --> 00:31:49,838 The image is blurry, but you can clearly see her pan 718 00:31:49,922 --> 00:31:53,130 the camera as a red car dries past a block of buildings. 719 00:31:54,338 --> 00:31:57,255 - [Witness] I am confused at how this is happening. 720 00:31:57,380 --> 00:31:58,922 - [Tony] It appears a row of white houses 721 00:31:59,047 --> 00:32:01,588 is being projected onto her bedroom wall. 722 00:32:01,713 --> 00:32:03,838 They look like perfectly normal residential buildings 723 00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:06,922 except for one thing, they are all upside down. 724 00:32:07,047 --> 00:32:09,588 Journalist Amy Teitel wonders if it's all an illusion. 725 00:32:09,713 --> 00:32:11,672 - What's really interesting is her curtains 726 00:32:11,838 --> 00:32:13,922 are pretty much completely closed, 727 00:32:14,047 --> 00:32:16,088 so it could just be a trick of the light. 728 00:32:16,213 --> 00:32:17,922 - [Tony] When the video gets posted and goes viral, 729 00:32:18,047 --> 00:32:20,713 some suggest the buildings are not of our world, 730 00:32:20,838 --> 00:32:22,588 but a nearly identical one. 731 00:32:22,713 --> 00:32:24,713 A glimpse into another dimension. 732 00:32:24,838 --> 00:32:26,755 Is such a portal even possible? 733 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,005 Consider that other dimensions might exist 734 00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:31,172 according to something called string theory. 735 00:32:31,255 --> 00:32:34,713 - String theory is a theory whereas instead 736 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,797 of having atoms as kind of the base layer 737 00:32:36,922 --> 00:32:39,172 that creates everything, that everything in the universe 738 00:32:39,297 --> 00:32:41,630 is created by one-dimensional strings. 739 00:32:41,755 --> 00:32:43,880 - [Tony] These one-dimensional strings or filaments 740 00:32:44,047 --> 00:32:46,297 of energy are the smallest objects in the universe 741 00:32:46,422 --> 00:32:49,172 and they're said to vibrate in different patterns. 742 00:32:49,255 --> 00:32:52,380 - [Amy] And these strings can vibrate against each other 743 00:32:52,547 --> 00:32:54,755 and create multiple dimensions. 744 00:32:56,297 --> 00:32:58,547 - Now, string theory tells us there could be up 745 00:32:58,713 --> 00:33:01,213 to 10 or 11 dimensions. 746 00:33:01,338 --> 00:33:03,963 So has this woman discovered something big 747 00:33:04,047 --> 00:33:07,838 or is it just another example of other freaky physics? 748 00:33:08,005 --> 00:33:11,255 Our experts untangle what's going on. 749 00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:14,422 (tense music) 750 00:33:14,547 --> 00:33:16,797 - We have a scene from another universe 751 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,838 right in someone's bedroom. 752 00:33:18,963 --> 00:33:20,047 How is that possible? 753 00:33:20,213 --> 00:33:22,963 - Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku says something 754 00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:26,172 kind of like this is possible theoretically with a wormhole, 755 00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:28,797 where two black holes in different universes connect, 756 00:33:28,922 --> 00:33:30,838 establishing a doorway between them. 757 00:33:31,005 --> 00:33:33,297 But the proof wouldn't look like this. 758 00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:36,005 - Now of course, if a black hole or wormhole 759 00:33:36,172 --> 00:33:38,713 would open up in somebody's bedroom, 760 00:33:38,838 --> 00:33:41,880 the energy is so great that anyone's bedroom 761 00:33:42,005 --> 00:33:44,838 would be sucked inside, never to be seen again. 762 00:33:44,922 --> 00:33:46,963 - [Tony] If it's not a bedroom black hole, 763 00:33:47,088 --> 00:33:49,255 maybe there's a projector hidden in the room. 764 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:51,005 Video analyst Mick West takes a look. 765 00:33:51,172 --> 00:33:52,838 - [Mick] These images are a bit blurry. 766 00:33:52,963 --> 00:33:54,505 I think if someone was trying to fake some kind 767 00:33:54,588 --> 00:33:58,338 of alternate reality, they would've used a clearer image. 768 00:33:58,505 --> 00:34:00,130 We can see that it is actually a projection 769 00:34:00,255 --> 00:34:02,130 because she waves her hand and leaves a shadow. 770 00:34:02,213 --> 00:34:05,380 So it's not actually something that's added 771 00:34:05,505 --> 00:34:07,713 to the video afterwards. 772 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,172 - [Tony] So it's not CGI. 773 00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:11,172 But could it be a bit of movie magic 774 00:34:11,255 --> 00:34:13,797 coming from an electronic projector? 775 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,713 That doesn't explain why the image appears upside down 776 00:34:16,838 --> 00:34:18,255 and West says it doesn't match 777 00:34:18,380 --> 00:34:20,255 what he sees from the woman's shadow. 778 00:34:20,380 --> 00:34:22,047 - The projector would have to be behind her 779 00:34:22,213 --> 00:34:24,255 for her to cast a shadow on the wall. 780 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:27,880 And what's behind her from that perspective is the window. 781 00:34:28,047 --> 00:34:31,005 So the projector would have to be 782 00:34:31,088 --> 00:34:32,672 basically where the window is. 783 00:34:32,755 --> 00:34:34,630 - [Tony] In the clip, we don't see a projector, 784 00:34:34,713 --> 00:34:37,380 but we do see tiny gaps in the curtain. 785 00:34:37,547 --> 00:34:41,505 - There's just this one small thin rectangle, 786 00:34:41,630 --> 00:34:43,588 a hole, an aperture. 787 00:34:43,713 --> 00:34:47,172 And because this is the only way that light can get in, 788 00:34:47,297 --> 00:34:51,297 it's acting as what's called a pinhole camera. 789 00:34:51,422 --> 00:34:54,838 The term we use for that is camera obscura. 790 00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:56,172 - [Tony] As light rays hit an object 791 00:34:56,297 --> 00:34:59,505 and then travel through the aperture of a pinhole camera, 792 00:34:59,588 --> 00:35:02,172 they project the image of an object upside down. 793 00:35:02,297 --> 00:35:04,963 This creates the camera obscura effect. 794 00:35:05,088 --> 00:35:06,755 And just to prove it conclusively, 795 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,005 West has been able to recreate it. 796 00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:13,422 - I took this plastic sheet here, I put it over the window 797 00:35:14,755 --> 00:35:16,130 and it has this little hole in here. 798 00:35:16,255 --> 00:35:18,505 And then when I turned the camera around, 799 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:22,547 I could see that there was a projection of my backyard 800 00:35:22,713 --> 00:35:26,630 onto the back wall of my garage. 801 00:35:26,755 --> 00:35:29,755 And like in the video we saw, I can cast a shadow on it. 802 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,463 And here's an image of me walking around 803 00:35:32,588 --> 00:35:34,088 waving this umbrella around, 804 00:35:34,213 --> 00:35:37,505 projected onto the back wall of my garage. 805 00:35:37,672 --> 00:35:40,255 (tense music) 806 00:35:41,672 --> 00:35:45,880 - Our verdict, this is an example of camera obscura 807 00:35:46,005 --> 00:35:47,672 from a pinhole camera 808 00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:50,088 accidentally made by the window shade. 809 00:35:50,213 --> 00:35:52,463 The buildings we see in the image 810 00:35:52,588 --> 00:35:54,047 are actually the neighbor's houses 811 00:35:54,172 --> 00:35:55,963 from right across the street. 812 00:35:56,088 --> 00:35:58,255 We might not have traveled to a new universe, 813 00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:01,338 but we got a good lesson in the science of optics. 814 00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:02,672 You passed. 815 00:36:02,838 --> 00:36:04,005 Class dismissed. 816 00:36:07,755 --> 00:36:09,838 - Remember the most terrifying scenes in "Jurassic Park" 817 00:36:09,922 --> 00:36:11,963 when the dinosaurs were chasing people down? 818 00:36:12,088 --> 00:36:13,672 Well, there are some who believe 819 00:36:13,797 --> 00:36:16,005 that idea isn't just made for Hollywood 820 00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:19,088 and that the proof lies deep in the heart of Texas. 821 00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:23,547 It's 1980 by the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas. 822 00:36:23,672 --> 00:36:26,297 Amateur paleontologist, Glen Kuban is on a mission 823 00:36:26,422 --> 00:36:28,172 to document a site that became famous 824 00:36:28,338 --> 00:36:30,422 since it was first discovered in 1908. 825 00:36:30,547 --> 00:36:31,630 This is why. 826 00:36:31,713 --> 00:36:34,297 (tense music) 827 00:36:34,422 --> 00:36:35,338 Take a closer look. 828 00:36:35,463 --> 00:36:37,922 These are two trails of fossilized footprints 829 00:36:38,047 --> 00:36:40,422 that cross each other in the riverbank. 830 00:36:40,547 --> 00:36:43,088 But while one set of prints belongs to a dinosaur, 831 00:36:43,213 --> 00:36:46,005 Glen says some believe the others are human. 832 00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:48,088 - They didn't find any distinct human toes 833 00:36:48,213 --> 00:36:52,172 but did find these oblong tracks in striding sequences 834 00:36:52,338 --> 00:36:54,130 that were larger than normal human feet 835 00:36:54,255 --> 00:36:56,797 but were not obviously typical dinosaur tracks. 836 00:36:56,922 --> 00:36:58,172 And they roughly resemble human tracks. 837 00:36:58,297 --> 00:37:01,505 - [Tony] Wait a minute, humans and dinosaurs side by side? 838 00:37:01,588 --> 00:37:04,130 Author Eric Grundhauser says, according to believers 839 00:37:04,255 --> 00:37:07,005 of the Young Earth Theory, the answer is yes. 840 00:37:07,088 --> 00:37:09,922 - They believe in a biblical foundation 841 00:37:10,047 --> 00:37:11,838 that the earth was only created 842 00:37:11,922 --> 00:37:14,838 between four and 10,000 years ago. 843 00:37:15,005 --> 00:37:17,005 Now, many people who have observed this site 844 00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:20,213 have taken this as evidence that humans 845 00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:25,005 and dinosaurs actually lived at the same time. 846 00:37:25,172 --> 00:37:28,630 And in a very literal sense, they crossed paths. 847 00:37:30,213 --> 00:37:32,213 - [Tony] Young Earthers or Creationists also point 848 00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:34,213 to depictions in other cultures around the world 849 00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:36,672 that supposedly confirm their beliefs 850 00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:39,713 like this prehistoric cave drawing in Kutaisi, Georgia 851 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,505 that supposedly shows men hunting next to a dinosaur. 852 00:37:42,672 --> 00:37:44,672 But take a look at the size of these prints. 853 00:37:44,755 --> 00:37:46,005 They're huge! 854 00:37:46,088 --> 00:37:48,713 - They are much, much larger than any recorded human 855 00:37:48,838 --> 00:37:50,297 that we know of. 856 00:37:50,422 --> 00:37:54,380 Could they point to a lost species of human? 857 00:37:54,547 --> 00:37:55,630 A giant? 858 00:37:55,755 --> 00:37:57,755 - [Tony] The mystery is complicated by this other set 859 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,672 of prints found nearby. 860 00:37:59,838 --> 00:38:03,463 They seem to have normal human shape in size, don't they? 861 00:38:03,547 --> 00:38:05,130 How did those get here? 862 00:38:06,713 --> 00:38:10,672 In 2020, evidence of stone tools found in Mexico 863 00:38:10,755 --> 00:38:14,297 led anthropologists to theorize that the first humans 864 00:38:14,422 --> 00:38:17,672 may have come to North America 30,000 years ago, 865 00:38:17,755 --> 00:38:21,463 almost 20,000 years earlier than previously thought. 866 00:38:21,588 --> 00:38:24,213 So our natural history is continuously changing 867 00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:26,297 when new facts come to light. 868 00:38:26,422 --> 00:38:28,088 But what are the facts when it comes 869 00:38:28,213 --> 00:38:31,172 to these alleged human footprints? 870 00:38:31,338 --> 00:38:34,422 We let our experts dip their feet in for answers. 871 00:38:34,547 --> 00:38:37,005 (tense music) 872 00:38:38,463 --> 00:38:40,588 Archeologist Ed Barnhart says these prints 873 00:38:40,713 --> 00:38:43,755 aren't just too big to be human, they're size 35. 874 00:38:45,213 --> 00:38:48,130 And even if there were giant humans in our ancient history, 875 00:38:48,255 --> 00:38:49,338 they didn't make these prints. 876 00:38:49,463 --> 00:38:54,213 - Humans have an arch and toes and we have a heel. 877 00:38:54,380 --> 00:38:57,463 When you really look at this footprint in the way 878 00:38:57,588 --> 00:39:01,172 that a scientific investigation does, 879 00:39:01,297 --> 00:39:04,630 it lacks those basic elements. 880 00:39:04,755 --> 00:39:06,922 - [Tony] Humans have five metatarsal foot bones 881 00:39:07,047 --> 00:39:08,297 that connect to their toes. 882 00:39:09,922 --> 00:39:11,338 On the other hand, the reptile foot 883 00:39:11,463 --> 00:39:13,255 has three metatarsal foot bones 884 00:39:13,380 --> 00:39:16,213 characteristically splayed out from the base. 885 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:18,380 So these are the footprints of a reptile 886 00:39:18,505 --> 00:39:21,172 and NASA geologist, Dr. Bob Anderson thinks he knows 887 00:39:21,255 --> 00:39:24,338 what made these mysterious fossilized impressions. 888 00:39:24,505 --> 00:39:28,088 - What we have here is an ancient stream channel 889 00:39:28,213 --> 00:39:30,630 where multiple dinosaurs have walked through. 890 00:39:30,755 --> 00:39:33,338 - [Tony] But if both sets of tracks are dinosaurs, 891 00:39:33,463 --> 00:39:35,297 why does one look so human? 892 00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:36,880 - It's just the way the dinosaur itself 893 00:39:37,047 --> 00:39:38,297 was walking across the ground. 894 00:39:38,422 --> 00:39:40,755 - [Tony] Anderson says it's likely one of the dinosaurs 895 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,213 was walking with its weight on the back of its feet, 896 00:39:43,338 --> 00:39:45,588 so the toes didn't have much contact with the mud. 897 00:39:45,713 --> 00:39:49,130 That's why it's less clear the feet only had three toes 898 00:39:49,255 --> 00:39:51,172 and in some cases, erosion wore away 899 00:39:51,338 --> 00:39:53,005 the toe imprints even further, 900 00:39:53,130 --> 00:39:55,172 making the track look almost like it was made 901 00:39:55,338 --> 00:39:57,422 by a person wearing a shoe. 902 00:39:57,547 --> 00:40:00,422 That still leaves these other photos of prints from nearby 903 00:40:00,547 --> 00:40:02,880 where the human toe, arch, and heel markings 904 00:40:03,005 --> 00:40:03,963 are clearly delineated. 905 00:40:04,047 --> 00:40:05,255 What about them? 906 00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:08,505 - There have been people who have an agenda supporting 907 00:40:08,672 --> 00:40:13,088 the idea of creationism and carved the tracks 908 00:40:13,213 --> 00:40:15,297 to look like human tracks. 909 00:40:15,422 --> 00:40:17,047 - [Tony] Turns out Barnhart's right. 910 00:40:17,172 --> 00:40:19,297 Research reveals that most of the fake prints 911 00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:22,297 were carved by a man named George Adams in the 1930s, 912 00:40:22,422 --> 00:40:24,213 as his family later acknowledged. 913 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,338 Adams decided to create better examples 914 00:40:26,463 --> 00:40:28,713 of the alleged giant human tracks in order 915 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,130 to sell tickets to tourists during the Great Depression. 916 00:40:31,213 --> 00:40:33,630 (tense music) 917 00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:39,297 The verdict, none of these are prehistoric human tracks. 918 00:40:39,422 --> 00:40:41,505 Our experts have laid out explanations 919 00:40:41,630 --> 00:40:45,297 for all three types of phenomena seen in Glen's photos. 920 00:40:45,422 --> 00:40:48,255 Dinosaur metatarsal tracks, erosion, 921 00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:50,297 and intentional carvings. 922 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:53,922 There's no evidence that humans ever walked with dinosaurs. 923 00:40:54,047 --> 00:40:56,338 So keep enjoying "The Flintstones", 924 00:40:56,463 --> 00:40:58,380 just take them with a grain of salt. 925 00:40:58,547 --> 00:40:59,672 And that's our show for tonight. 926 00:40:59,838 --> 00:41:02,838 If you have any videos you think we should investigate, 927 00:41:03,005 --> 00:41:04,505 please reach out to us 928 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:07,172 and remember to keep those cameras rolling.