1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,526 (film rolling sound) 2 00:00:07,864 --> 00:00:13,911 (dramatic flute music) 3 00:00:17,039 --> 00:00:19,709 (ominous music) 4 00:00:27,008 --> 00:00:29,010 (ominous music) 5 00:00:43,232 --> 00:00:47,278 - [Simon] Never in my wildest dreams 6 00:00:47,278 --> 00:00:51,991 did I think when I told Gary something bad is gonna happen, 7 00:00:54,327 --> 00:00:56,537 did I think it was gonna be this. 8 00:00:59,791 --> 00:01:01,125 - [Gal] I can't imagine 9 00:01:01,125 --> 00:01:03,753 what Gary must have been going through 10 00:01:03,753 --> 00:01:05,254 and how he must have felt 11 00:01:05,254 --> 00:01:08,925 being so alone and so far out there. 12 00:01:12,637 --> 00:01:15,098 - [Beverly] He said that the longer he stood 13 00:01:15,098 --> 00:01:16,265 and looked at it, 14 00:01:18,226 --> 00:01:22,480 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 15 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,942 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 16 00:01:25,942 --> 00:01:28,778 (thunder roaring) 17 00:02:09,652 --> 00:02:11,154 (thunder roars) 18 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:22,206 (thunder roaring) 19 00:02:23,791 --> 00:02:25,793 (dramatic music) 20 00:02:55,656 --> 00:02:56,991 - I first knew something was wrong 21 00:02:56,991 --> 00:03:00,161 when I was on the phone with my publisher, 22 00:03:00,161 --> 00:03:03,080 and Simon kept trying to call in. 23 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,375 And so once I was off the phone with my publisher, 24 00:03:06,375 --> 00:03:10,087 I called Simon who's Gary's roommate. 25 00:03:10,087 --> 00:03:13,925 And he told me that Gary was two days late. 26 00:03:13,925 --> 00:03:16,761 That's not Gary, 27 00:03:16,761 --> 00:03:17,929 you know, Gary, 28 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:21,349 would never leave Tuca that long, 29 00:03:21,349 --> 00:03:24,435 especially knowing that Simon had to go out of town. 30 00:03:24,435 --> 00:03:26,437 That's when I knew that there was something wrong, 31 00:03:26,437 --> 00:03:27,563 and I needed to get there. 32 00:03:27,563 --> 00:03:32,401 So I packed up and left Panaca and headed straight to Ruth. 33 00:03:32,401 --> 00:03:34,654 I needed to see what was going on 34 00:03:34,654 --> 00:03:37,031 and make sure that my brother was okay. 35 00:03:37,031 --> 00:03:39,492 And to take care of Tuca until he could get back. 36 00:03:42,536 --> 00:03:44,205 I really thought he would be back. 37 00:03:45,623 --> 00:03:50,127 - I first met Gary when they were having an event 38 00:03:50,127 --> 00:03:52,463 at the Nevada Northern Railway. 39 00:03:52,463 --> 00:03:57,426 And we both just kind of, wandered in each other's paths, 40 00:03:57,426 --> 00:03:59,971 and started talking about trains, 41 00:03:59,971 --> 00:04:04,809 and, we were both looking for a place to stay. 42 00:04:04,809 --> 00:04:06,352 I was trying to find a place for work, 43 00:04:06,352 --> 00:04:08,354 he was in between places, 44 00:04:08,354 --> 00:04:12,233 and we kind of just happened upon this place. 45 00:04:14,235 --> 00:04:17,446 - The first time I heard the name, Gary Hinge, 46 00:04:17,446 --> 00:04:22,285 I believe was when I was working for the radio station NNN, 47 00:04:22,285 --> 00:04:23,411 It was um.. 48 00:04:23,411 --> 00:04:24,954 I was an investigative reporter, 49 00:04:24,954 --> 00:04:26,789 it was my first job right out of the gate, 50 00:04:26,789 --> 00:04:28,874 and my producer came to me and he was like, 51 00:04:28,874 --> 00:04:30,459 we have to cover this, 52 00:04:30,459 --> 00:04:32,712 I think it's a good idea for us to do this, 53 00:04:32,712 --> 00:04:35,631 because the TV stations, the news, 54 00:04:35,631 --> 00:04:36,966 had stopped recording on it. 55 00:04:36,966 --> 00:04:39,301 And so this was a way for us to get exclusives 56 00:04:39,301 --> 00:04:40,511 and to keep the story going. 57 00:04:40,511 --> 00:04:43,639 Because according to everyone else that was hearing about it 58 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:47,435 and reporting about it, it had just gone cold. 59 00:04:47,435 --> 00:04:50,146 - If you want me to describe my brother Gary, 60 00:04:50,146 --> 00:04:54,525 the best way to describe him is, 61 00:04:55,651 --> 00:04:57,445 if there was a little lady that said, 62 00:04:57,445 --> 00:04:59,488 can you please watch my purse, 63 00:05:00,573 --> 00:05:02,700 no matter where they were at, 64 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:06,787 Gary would sit there and he would watch her purse 65 00:05:06,787 --> 00:05:10,124 and make sure that it was safe until she came back. 66 00:05:10,124 --> 00:05:12,418 That was just the type of person that he was, 67 00:05:12,418 --> 00:05:17,423 he was trustworthy and amazing. 68 00:05:18,966 --> 00:05:19,842 Amazing. 69 00:05:21,635 --> 00:05:23,262 - So Gary loved the outdoors, 70 00:05:23,262 --> 00:05:26,974 I mean, he was the king of outdoors. 71 00:05:26,974 --> 00:05:28,017 Let's just say that. 72 00:05:28,017 --> 00:05:31,395 And I think a lot of people were really envious of him. 73 00:05:31,395 --> 00:05:34,273 Like he lived this beautiful adventurous life, 74 00:05:34,273 --> 00:05:39,028 that I think, those who have the nine to five job, 75 00:05:39,028 --> 00:05:40,237 stuck behind a desk, 76 00:05:40,237 --> 00:05:44,075 I think, really admired that about him. 77 00:05:45,284 --> 00:05:48,788 - Super smart, but definitely private, 78 00:05:48,788 --> 00:05:51,207 he kind of just kept to himself. 79 00:05:51,207 --> 00:05:56,212 If he wasn't in his room on his computer, 80 00:05:56,545 --> 00:05:59,340 then he was working on his model railroad. 81 00:06:01,550 --> 00:06:02,385 But other than that, 82 00:06:02,385 --> 00:06:05,012 yeah, just really kept to himself in his room 83 00:06:05,012 --> 00:06:06,222 making his videos. 84 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:09,975 Super funny, though (chuckles slightly) 85 00:06:09,975 --> 00:06:11,894 definitely could make you laugh 86 00:06:11,894 --> 00:06:13,896 with a couple of his one liners. 87 00:06:15,064 --> 00:06:17,066 (uplifting music) 88 00:06:17,525 --> 00:06:21,070 - I started to learn more about who Gary was. 89 00:06:21,070 --> 00:06:21,904 And I found out 90 00:06:21,904 --> 00:06:25,157 that he was an extremely highly intelligent man. 91 00:06:26,075 --> 00:06:28,536 He's one of those people that was so smart 92 00:06:28,536 --> 00:06:32,414 that kind of had a hard time connecting with other people. 93 00:06:33,374 --> 00:06:37,545 So he mostly just kind of was more, solitude, 94 00:06:37,545 --> 00:06:41,799 and yeah, fascinating. 95 00:06:41,799 --> 00:06:43,175 The more I found out about him, 96 00:06:43,175 --> 00:06:48,180 the more I wanted to keep finding out about, who is Gary? 97 00:06:50,349 --> 00:06:52,351 (uplifting music) 98 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,030 Gary had found his dream job, 99 00:07:05,030 --> 00:07:07,324 being such an avid outdoors man, 100 00:07:07,324 --> 00:07:11,829 he started to work for a startup company called Map Nevada. 101 00:07:11,829 --> 00:07:13,831 Now what they do is, 102 00:07:13,831 --> 00:07:17,918 they map out really remote locations for hunters. 103 00:07:17,918 --> 00:07:22,923 So they track wildlife, weather, terrain, 104 00:07:23,048 --> 00:07:26,886 and I mean, Gary was in heaven doing this. 105 00:07:26,886 --> 00:07:31,891 - He loved to be by himself out in the wilderness, 106 00:07:34,643 --> 00:07:36,562 he loved hiking, 107 00:07:36,562 --> 00:07:40,357 and being adventurous, 108 00:07:41,442 --> 00:07:46,447 any train, he was drawn to, he loved trains. 109 00:07:47,615 --> 00:07:50,618 (ballast clattering) 110 00:07:50,618 --> 00:07:54,622 - [Gary] Hey guys filming another little YouTube video, 111 00:07:54,622 --> 00:07:57,374 at one of my favorite places. 112 00:07:57,374 --> 00:08:01,629 If I had more time I would become one of the volunteers, 113 00:08:01,629 --> 00:08:06,592 but this is the Nevada Northern Railway Museum, here in Ely. 114 00:08:06,592 --> 00:08:09,553 And it's kind of an old little copper mine 115 00:08:09,553 --> 00:08:11,847 just preserved and left. 116 00:08:11,847 --> 00:08:13,098 They do some cool stuff, though, 117 00:08:13,098 --> 00:08:17,811 like you can sleep in this old caboose from Kennecott, 118 00:08:17,811 --> 00:08:20,314 the big copper mine in the area, 119 00:08:20,314 --> 00:08:21,982 right outside my home in Ruth. 120 00:08:23,317 --> 00:08:25,653 It's kind of a neat little railroad museum, 121 00:08:25,653 --> 00:08:27,696 they just kind of let you walk around. 122 00:08:29,740 --> 00:08:33,202 And you know how much I love trains on top of hiking, 123 00:08:33,202 --> 00:08:34,662 gotta do something in the winter time 124 00:08:34,662 --> 00:08:37,748 and you can't be outside as much. 125 00:08:37,748 --> 00:08:40,376 - So I was really excited to take on this story, 126 00:08:40,376 --> 00:08:42,336 seeing that it was my first story. 127 00:08:42,336 --> 00:08:43,837 And it also took place 128 00:08:43,837 --> 00:08:46,257 in this tiny little town called Ruth. 129 00:08:46,257 --> 00:08:49,176 And so I grabbed the phone book, and I just started calling. 130 00:08:49,176 --> 00:08:51,136 And I wanted to talk to anybody and everybody 131 00:08:51,136 --> 00:08:52,221 that would talk to me. 132 00:08:54,473 --> 00:08:56,642 - I first knew something was off 133 00:08:56,642 --> 00:08:59,478 when he asked me to watch his dog Tuca 134 00:08:59,478 --> 00:09:02,731 before he went out on one of his trips. 135 00:09:02,731 --> 00:09:05,067 And he never leaves Tuca. 136 00:09:05,067 --> 00:09:07,236 He always takes the dog with him, 137 00:09:07,236 --> 00:09:09,196 so I thought that was kind of weird. 138 00:09:09,196 --> 00:09:11,407 And he was acting super stressed out 139 00:09:11,407 --> 00:09:14,201 even keeping to himself even more. 140 00:09:14,201 --> 00:09:17,997 When he didn't come back after two days, 141 00:09:19,540 --> 00:09:21,709 I thought that was really strange. 142 00:09:21,709 --> 00:09:23,085 I had a flight to catch, 143 00:09:23,085 --> 00:09:26,505 so I just called Beverly to get the dog. 144 00:09:26,505 --> 00:09:29,049 - After I got off the phone with Simon, 145 00:09:29,049 --> 00:09:32,219 I tried Gary, and there was no answer, 146 00:09:32,219 --> 00:09:36,307 so I hurried and left and I went to Ruth from Panaca. 147 00:09:36,307 --> 00:09:40,352 And it's only a couple hours away, 148 00:09:40,352 --> 00:09:42,229 so when I got there, 149 00:09:42,229 --> 00:09:45,566 Simon and Tuca were waiting on the front steps. 150 00:09:45,566 --> 00:09:48,235 Simon really needed to get to the airport in Las Vegas, 151 00:09:48,235 --> 00:09:51,655 so I asked him where Gary had gone to, 152 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,703 and Simon didn't know, his roommate didn't even know, 153 00:09:57,703 --> 00:10:00,247 he just knew that he was on an expedition. 154 00:10:00,247 --> 00:10:01,582 To me that wasn't right, 155 00:10:01,582 --> 00:10:03,792 so I tried Gary a couple of more times, 156 00:10:03,792 --> 00:10:05,502 and all it did was go to voicemail 157 00:10:05,502 --> 00:10:10,090 and something was definitely wrong. 158 00:10:10,090 --> 00:10:12,843 And so I called the police and waited. 159 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:16,472 (mysterious music) 160 00:10:22,061 --> 00:10:23,771 - So I got Beverley's phone number, 161 00:10:23,771 --> 00:10:26,690 and this is the only time that I ever talked to her. 162 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:30,819 And she was pretty angry with me, 163 00:10:30,819 --> 00:10:32,946 once I told her that I was a reporter. 164 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:36,492 And she did not want to have anything to do with me 165 00:10:36,492 --> 00:10:39,370 or our show, which I thought was really unfortunate, 166 00:10:39,370 --> 00:10:41,789 because, the news stations, 167 00:10:41,789 --> 00:10:43,707 they had stopped recording on this, 168 00:10:43,707 --> 00:10:45,834 and we were the only ones doing anything, 169 00:10:45,834 --> 00:10:48,295 and I thought this is a way to help find your brother, 170 00:10:48,295 --> 00:10:49,630 I don't understand why 171 00:10:49,630 --> 00:10:51,173 you don't want to give me the time or day, 172 00:10:51,173 --> 00:10:53,592 but she didn't, and she quickly hung up. 173 00:10:53,592 --> 00:10:56,512 And that was the only time that I spoke to Beverly. 174 00:10:57,721 --> 00:11:01,892 - Gary became so obsessed with survivalism, 175 00:11:01,892 --> 00:11:04,853 he would watch the Discovery Channel, 176 00:11:04,853 --> 00:11:07,731 he would watch YouTube, 177 00:11:07,731 --> 00:11:12,236 he would study it and find the most remote places, 178 00:11:12,236 --> 00:11:16,407 no cell service, no provisions of any kind 179 00:11:16,407 --> 00:11:18,534 other than what he took. 180 00:11:18,534 --> 00:11:23,497 And it used to scare the heavens out of me. 181 00:11:23,664 --> 00:11:26,208 I mean, I was petrified for him, 182 00:11:26,208 --> 00:11:27,918 and I would worry so much. 183 00:11:27,918 --> 00:11:30,212 But after a while, 184 00:11:31,839 --> 00:11:33,048 it was Gary. 185 00:11:34,675 --> 00:11:37,845 - [Gary] So guys, I'm here hiking around, 186 00:11:37,845 --> 00:11:41,140 and this is one of the cool secrets 187 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:42,850 I have in the wilds in Nevada 188 00:11:42,850 --> 00:11:47,813 is this cemetery from the late 1800s old mining camp, 189 00:11:49,565 --> 00:11:54,445 but I won't disclose the name for safety reasons. 190 00:11:54,445 --> 00:11:56,155 Don't want anyone getting lost out here, 191 00:11:56,155 --> 00:12:01,160 but you can see all these old graves, wood stones, 192 00:12:01,910 --> 00:12:04,997 unmarked graves with no names now. 193 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:08,375 Give you an idea of where I had to hike from 194 00:12:08,375 --> 00:12:11,712 is that mountain way over there 195 00:12:11,712 --> 00:12:14,965 is my truck's on the other side of it. 196 00:12:14,965 --> 00:12:17,718 So hiked over that mountain 197 00:12:17,718 --> 00:12:22,681 and I'm way out this way now, hiking around. 198 00:12:22,681 --> 00:12:27,686 - I wouldn't say what Gary was doing was hiking. 199 00:12:28,312 --> 00:12:33,275 These were multiple day, like survival excursions. 200 00:12:35,319 --> 00:12:36,945 - In the beginning, what gave me hope 201 00:12:36,945 --> 00:12:41,950 was the fact that when Gary was much younger, 202 00:12:43,619 --> 00:12:46,163 much, much younger, like second grade, 203 00:12:46,163 --> 00:12:51,168 we all went camping, and Gary disappeared from the campsite. 204 00:12:52,461 --> 00:12:56,089 And we searched for him and searched for him, 205 00:12:56,089 --> 00:12:59,593 and we were all so worried, mom and dad were just terrified, 206 00:12:59,593 --> 00:13:01,553 I was terrified. 207 00:13:01,553 --> 00:13:02,763 We didn't wanna leave the mountain 208 00:13:02,763 --> 00:13:04,723 to go and get cell service or anything, 209 00:13:04,723 --> 00:13:07,684 we just went looking for him. 210 00:13:07,684 --> 00:13:11,522 And we looked for him all night. 211 00:13:11,522 --> 00:13:16,485 And the next morning we came up to a sheep herders camp, 212 00:13:16,652 --> 00:13:18,821 thinking, we're gonna tell them look, 213 00:13:18,821 --> 00:13:20,948 keep an eye out for this second grader, 214 00:13:20,948 --> 00:13:25,327 this second grader that was missing 215 00:13:25,327 --> 00:13:30,249 and we walk up and there is my little brother Gary, 216 00:13:31,291 --> 00:13:33,961 playing with the animals. 217 00:13:33,961 --> 00:13:37,089 He'd known that if he got to the sheep herders camp, 218 00:13:37,089 --> 00:13:37,923 he would be okay, 219 00:13:37,923 --> 00:13:40,551 that mom and dad would come and look for him. 220 00:13:40,551 --> 00:13:45,556 And he was so resilient, it was in him, second nature. 221 00:13:47,891 --> 00:13:49,977 - So after speaking to a bunch of people in Ruth, 222 00:13:49,977 --> 00:13:53,063 I started to learn a little bit more about Beverly 223 00:13:53,063 --> 00:13:57,484 and Beverly's relationship with Gary in the past. 224 00:13:57,484 --> 00:14:01,446 So she had a lot of anger towards Gary. 225 00:14:02,614 --> 00:14:06,660 She really blamed him for their parents' death. 226 00:14:06,660 --> 00:14:09,371 And then when their parents did pass away, 227 00:14:09,371 --> 00:14:12,082 she was stuck, still raising Gary 228 00:14:12,082 --> 00:14:16,211 and so she held quite a lot of resentment against him. 229 00:14:17,838 --> 00:14:21,133 - Well, I was mad at Gary when mom dad died, 230 00:14:22,593 --> 00:14:24,344 they were out on a fishing trip 231 00:14:24,344 --> 00:14:27,472 and mom and dad liked to do some night fishing. 232 00:14:28,348 --> 00:14:32,311 And so they went out and did hang the lantern 233 00:14:32,311 --> 00:14:33,228 where they could see it, 234 00:14:33,228 --> 00:14:35,063 so they could get back to shore safely, 235 00:14:35,063 --> 00:14:37,816 back to camp without hitting any rocks. 236 00:14:38,734 --> 00:14:39,818 Old Gary decided 237 00:14:39,818 --> 00:14:42,446 that he was gonna go hunting frogs and everything 238 00:14:42,446 --> 00:14:45,449 and so, and he went exploring. 239 00:14:45,449 --> 00:14:48,744 And while he's out there he hung the lantern up, 240 00:14:48,744 --> 00:14:51,288 so that he could see what he was doing. 241 00:14:51,288 --> 00:14:52,497 Meanwhile, mom and dad 242 00:14:52,497 --> 00:14:54,583 decided that they were gonna come back in 243 00:14:54,583 --> 00:14:56,293 and call it a night. 244 00:14:56,293 --> 00:14:58,170 So they headed for the lantern. 245 00:14:59,254 --> 00:15:04,259 Not knowing that Gary had moved it while he was exploring 246 00:15:05,427 --> 00:15:08,096 and so they followed the light. 247 00:15:08,096 --> 00:15:13,101 And, it was the wrong spot. 248 00:15:13,810 --> 00:15:18,523 They didn't make it back because they hit the rocks, 249 00:15:18,523 --> 00:15:23,528 and had Gary not hang the lantern up where he was at 250 00:15:24,154 --> 00:15:26,281 and left it where it needed to be, 251 00:15:28,158 --> 00:15:30,077 there wouldn't have been any problems. 252 00:15:33,121 --> 00:15:38,126 - I just felt super bad for Beverly. 253 00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:44,675 You know, I could just hear her 254 00:15:44,675 --> 00:15:48,053 inside Gary's room, sobbing. 255 00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:53,809 - You know, you're really making me miss my brother, Gary. 256 00:15:55,936 --> 00:15:57,938 (sentimental music) 257 00:16:11,576 --> 00:16:14,830 - [Gal] Kept hearing people refer to Gary as a hiker. 258 00:16:14,830 --> 00:16:18,583 And in my opinion, I don't really think that's correct. 259 00:16:18,583 --> 00:16:22,170 Because, to me, Gary's more of a survivalist, 260 00:16:22,170 --> 00:16:27,175 he would go out into the wilderness for a week or two on end 261 00:16:27,384 --> 00:16:29,219 with just a backpack. 262 00:16:29,219 --> 00:16:32,597 He's kind of like the MacGyver of the wilderness, 263 00:16:32,597 --> 00:16:37,269 just to survive and live off of the land, 264 00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:39,771 and filter his on water. 265 00:16:39,771 --> 00:16:42,065 So, to hear them just be like, 266 00:16:42,065 --> 00:16:44,359 oh, he's just a hiker gone missing. 267 00:16:44,359 --> 00:16:45,485 He's not. 268 00:16:45,485 --> 00:16:47,571 - When Gary and I first started living together, 269 00:16:47,571 --> 00:16:50,949 I actually went out with him on one of these things. 270 00:16:50,949 --> 00:16:55,787 And I just kept telling myself the entire time, never again. 271 00:16:56,830 --> 00:16:59,332 Gary wouldn't let us bring enough food or water, 272 00:16:59,332 --> 00:17:02,544 and it was the most miserable experience. 273 00:17:02,544 --> 00:17:05,005 The one thing I did like about it 274 00:17:05,005 --> 00:17:08,884 was we kept on finding these 1800's 275 00:17:08,884 --> 00:17:11,720 abandoned mining kind of structures, 276 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,763 which was super cool. 277 00:17:14,639 --> 00:17:18,060 - This wasn't a normal search and rescue. 278 00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:23,064 Because, Gary didn't tell anybody where he was going 279 00:17:23,523 --> 00:17:25,067 on his excursion. 280 00:17:25,067 --> 00:17:27,861 And he would go really deep into the wilderness, 281 00:17:27,861 --> 00:17:31,323 and he'd be gone for a week or so, 282 00:17:31,323 --> 00:17:35,952 so no one had any idea where to even start looking. 283 00:17:35,952 --> 00:17:40,540 And so police decided the best way, 284 00:17:40,540 --> 00:17:41,875 or the only thing they could think of 285 00:17:41,875 --> 00:17:44,961 was to maybe check his cell phone, 286 00:17:44,961 --> 00:17:48,340 and his cell phone pings in which tower. 287 00:17:48,340 --> 00:17:51,635 And it looked to be as he had turned his cell phone off 288 00:17:51,635 --> 00:17:54,012 shortly after leaving his home. 289 00:17:54,971 --> 00:17:56,973 - When Beverly showed up to get the dog. 290 00:17:58,225 --> 00:18:02,145 Yeah, I regret that now, I kind of lashed out at her. 291 00:18:04,523 --> 00:18:07,150 - I was so put off when I got to town, 292 00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:11,363 and he was so antsy to get out of there. 293 00:18:11,363 --> 00:18:14,991 And, being my brother's roommate, 294 00:18:14,991 --> 00:18:17,327 not even asking where he was gonna be, 295 00:18:17,327 --> 00:18:19,913 or, if there was gonna, 296 00:18:19,913 --> 00:18:23,166 you know any issue that might set up a red flag 297 00:18:23,166 --> 00:18:25,502 if he didn't come home. 298 00:18:25,502 --> 00:18:26,419 He had his dog and everything, 299 00:18:26,419 --> 00:18:28,964 and he knew he needed to be out of town. 300 00:18:29,965 --> 00:18:33,093 I just didn't, 301 00:18:33,093 --> 00:18:34,636 I didn't feel right about it, 302 00:18:34,636 --> 00:18:35,846 it just didn't feel right. 303 00:18:35,846 --> 00:18:39,224 And, a week or so before that, Gary had confided in me 304 00:18:39,224 --> 00:18:42,310 that him and Simon weren't getting along very well, 305 00:18:42,310 --> 00:18:45,438 and so he wanted to move out. 306 00:18:45,438 --> 00:18:49,776 And so I just, 307 00:18:49,776 --> 00:18:53,655 it just didn't feel right, so I let the cops know. 308 00:18:53,655 --> 00:18:56,199 You know, I just don't trust him, 309 00:18:56,199 --> 00:19:00,704 there's just something to not be concerned at all, 310 00:19:00,704 --> 00:19:02,747 where your roommate's gonna be. 311 00:19:02,747 --> 00:19:07,210 And more worried about getting on a plane, 312 00:19:07,210 --> 00:19:11,381 than somebody missing that's supposed to be your friend, 313 00:19:11,381 --> 00:19:12,549 close to you? 314 00:19:13,925 --> 00:19:14,759 No. 315 00:19:16,428 --> 00:19:17,470 - We never talked about that, 316 00:19:17,470 --> 00:19:19,639 he never told me where he went hiking, ever, 317 00:19:19,639 --> 00:19:21,183 he never mentioned it. 318 00:19:21,183 --> 00:19:23,143 And even if we did talk about it, 319 00:19:23,143 --> 00:19:27,397 I'm pretty sure he probably wouldn't have told me, so. 320 00:19:27,397 --> 00:19:29,691 But at the beginning, I understood 321 00:19:29,691 --> 00:19:31,610 she needed someone to point the finger at 322 00:19:31,610 --> 00:19:35,071 and she was super upset, understandably. 323 00:19:35,071 --> 00:19:39,367 But after some time, it just kind of got old, 324 00:19:39,367 --> 00:19:43,580 so I called her and I now told her that, 325 00:19:43,580 --> 00:19:47,000 there's no way I would have known and just by the way, 326 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,586 you're his sister, so why didn't you know? 327 00:19:50,921 --> 00:19:53,465 - When I first reported Gary missing, 328 00:19:53,465 --> 00:19:55,508 the police were wonderful, 329 00:19:55,508 --> 00:20:00,138 they were really on top of it, they did an APB, 330 00:20:00,138 --> 00:20:03,183 be on the lookout for his truck, himself, 331 00:20:04,017 --> 00:20:08,146 Park Rangers, Fish and Game, everything. 332 00:20:08,146 --> 00:20:09,564 You know, we live in a small town, 333 00:20:09,564 --> 00:20:11,650 people don't go missing all the time. 334 00:20:11,650 --> 00:20:14,027 And so this was a big deal, 335 00:20:14,027 --> 00:20:17,364 and they really took it seriously, 336 00:20:17,364 --> 00:20:19,366 they had it everywhere. 337 00:20:21,034 --> 00:20:23,078 I was embarrassed that I didn't know 338 00:20:23,078 --> 00:20:26,665 exactly where he was at, you know, I'm his sister, 339 00:20:28,208 --> 00:20:29,417 I should have known. 340 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:34,506 I should have known. 341 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,762 (sentimental music) 342 00:20:58,071 --> 00:21:02,784 - [Simon] My first thought when I heard he was missing was, 343 00:21:04,953 --> 00:21:08,999 oh, it'd be near impossible to find him. 344 00:21:10,875 --> 00:21:15,463 Either, he finally just injured himself, 345 00:21:15,463 --> 00:21:18,425 or maybe he had eaten something 346 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:22,512 that he didn't know was gonna make him so sick. 347 00:21:26,975 --> 00:21:29,227 - It'd been two days since I'd reported the missing 348 00:21:29,227 --> 00:21:33,440 and I hadn't slept more than 10 to 15 minutes at a time. 349 00:21:35,191 --> 00:21:38,611 I had people calling and were so concerned 350 00:21:38,611 --> 00:21:41,114 and wanted to know where to start looking for him. 351 00:21:42,157 --> 00:21:44,242 But not knowing where he was at, 352 00:21:44,242 --> 00:21:46,244 where would I have them look? 353 00:21:48,204 --> 00:21:52,375 And then the phone call came, they'd found Gary's truck. 354 00:21:53,543 --> 00:21:55,545 (ominous music) 355 00:22:14,689 --> 00:22:17,484 (thunder roaring) 356 00:22:23,323 --> 00:22:25,950 And I got such a sinking feeling, 357 00:22:25,950 --> 00:22:28,286 such a sick to my stomach feeling 358 00:22:28,286 --> 00:22:32,665 that this was now very real. 359 00:22:32,665 --> 00:22:35,335 (thunder roars) 360 00:22:39,756 --> 00:22:41,966 After the cops called in, 361 00:22:42,842 --> 00:22:44,177 and let me know that they'd found this truck, 362 00:22:44,177 --> 00:22:47,138 they came and picked me up and took me to it. 363 00:22:47,138 --> 00:22:50,558 It was about 55 miles out of town, 364 00:22:50,558 --> 00:22:53,937 and we got there and seeing his truck, 365 00:22:55,063 --> 00:22:58,316 I was so hopeful, you know, thinking, 366 00:22:59,776 --> 00:23:01,986 he probably fell, 367 00:23:01,986 --> 00:23:04,489 maybe broke an ankle, stuck in a ravine, 368 00:23:04,489 --> 00:23:05,740 can't get himself out. 369 00:23:05,740 --> 00:23:08,743 But I had hope. 370 00:23:08,743 --> 00:23:13,248 I really had hope that we were gonna find him okay. 371 00:23:13,248 --> 00:23:16,584 - It just wasn't in a place where Gary would have left it. 372 00:23:17,544 --> 00:23:19,587 Like it wasn't in a spot where he wanted, 373 00:23:19,587 --> 00:23:21,756 which he would wanna go to explore. 374 00:23:24,134 --> 00:23:25,760 - While I was sitting there, 375 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,972 watching them process Gary's truck, I was looking around, 376 00:23:31,975 --> 00:23:34,811 this wasn't Gary, 377 00:23:35,728 --> 00:23:40,733 he loved to explore vast forests, rocky hills, 378 00:23:43,111 --> 00:23:48,116 beauty, not just a rolling hill of dirt. 379 00:23:49,033 --> 00:23:53,705 It just, something wasn't right. 380 00:23:53,705 --> 00:23:56,457 (gunshot blasts) 381 00:24:02,172 --> 00:24:04,924 (gunshot blasts) 382 00:24:06,885 --> 00:24:09,846 (car engine roaring) 383 00:24:09,846 --> 00:24:11,848 - I'm a private investigator. 384 00:24:11,848 --> 00:24:15,602 I was hired by Beverly shortly after Gary's truck was found. 385 00:24:17,687 --> 00:24:20,440 The High Desert as you can see, 386 00:24:24,652 --> 00:24:26,571 it's very beautiful, 387 00:24:26,571 --> 00:24:31,576 it's very majestic, has mountains, valleys, plains, forests, 388 00:24:32,327 --> 00:24:34,078 it has it all. 389 00:24:34,078 --> 00:24:37,582 But it's also quite dangerous and very unforgiving. 390 00:24:37,582 --> 00:24:40,168 - So after Gary's truck was found, 391 00:24:41,503 --> 00:24:45,340 a search began and people really rallied. 392 00:24:45,882 --> 00:24:47,884 (upbeat music) 393 00:24:48,843 --> 00:24:49,761 - [Bill] Gary went missing 394 00:24:49,761 --> 00:24:52,263 in the hottest part of the summer. 395 00:24:52,263 --> 00:24:55,975 And what we see most of the time in disappearance like his 396 00:24:55,975 --> 00:25:00,813 is people suffering from heatstroke, 397 00:25:00,813 --> 00:25:04,359 dehydration, sometimes even injury. 398 00:25:06,819 --> 00:25:08,321 - [Beverly] People started showing up 399 00:25:08,321 --> 00:25:11,199 and then more people started showing up, 400 00:25:11,199 --> 00:25:14,285 and next thing I know, it's a whole whirlwind, 401 00:25:14,285 --> 00:25:18,915 there were people there that I didn't know, 402 00:25:20,375 --> 00:25:22,043 that Gary didn't know, 403 00:25:22,043 --> 00:25:24,963 there were people bringing drones, 404 00:25:24,963 --> 00:25:26,714 all kinds of search and rescue. 405 00:25:26,714 --> 00:25:30,051 It was the most humbling experience 406 00:25:30,051 --> 00:25:35,056 to know that these strangers were out there helping 407 00:25:35,265 --> 00:25:39,227 to try to find my brother and bring him home. 408 00:25:40,979 --> 00:25:42,981 (intense music) 409 00:25:52,031 --> 00:25:55,868 - So once Gary's truck was found, Beverly was, 410 00:25:57,287 --> 00:25:59,080 let's just say she was very vocal 411 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,583 about how the truck seemed to be parked 412 00:26:02,583 --> 00:26:04,294 in a suspicious location, 413 00:26:04,294 --> 00:26:05,628 like she was just convinced 414 00:26:05,628 --> 00:26:08,214 that her brother had not parked it there, 415 00:26:08,214 --> 00:26:10,008 her brother wouldn't park it there, 416 00:26:10,008 --> 00:26:12,802 and she would not stop talking about it. 417 00:26:13,761 --> 00:26:17,974 So the cops eventually looked into this. 418 00:26:17,974 --> 00:26:19,684 - The clock was ticking. 419 00:26:19,684 --> 00:26:22,979 They very much needed to find Gary as soon as possible. 420 00:26:23,855 --> 00:26:27,900 Beverly, on the other hand, was very much in their way. 421 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:32,905 She was in the way, and she was really messing things up. 422 00:26:33,531 --> 00:26:36,117 - Searching the high desert isn't easy, 423 00:26:36,117 --> 00:26:37,452 I mean, it's not an easy task. 424 00:26:37,452 --> 00:26:38,369 People think it is, 425 00:26:38,369 --> 00:26:40,955 people think you can just get up in the air in a helicopter 426 00:26:40,955 --> 00:26:45,960 and fly around and look at the ground and see someone, 427 00:26:46,586 --> 00:26:51,174 but once you're on the ground, there's abandoned mines, 428 00:26:51,174 --> 00:26:53,676 there's bushes and tree cover. 429 00:26:53,676 --> 00:26:56,262 And it's super difficult. 430 00:26:56,262 --> 00:27:00,141 So finding someone, it's not easy as people think it is. 431 00:27:01,517 --> 00:27:03,269 - [Gary] Oh my god, sheep. 432 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:04,103 (sheep bleating) 433 00:27:04,103 --> 00:27:05,647 Hi sheep. 434 00:27:05,647 --> 00:27:06,731 Look at all the sheep. 435 00:27:07,690 --> 00:27:09,400 Sheep are a lot nicer than people. 436 00:27:10,985 --> 00:27:11,819 (sheep bleating) 437 00:27:11,819 --> 00:27:13,154 (feet rustling) 438 00:27:13,154 --> 00:27:14,113 Hey little sheep, 439 00:27:15,698 --> 00:27:16,741 look at all you guys. 440 00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:19,869 (sheep bleating) 441 00:27:19,869 --> 00:27:23,956 Roaming the land, doing what you need to do. 442 00:27:23,956 --> 00:27:26,793 (ground rustling) 443 00:27:28,628 --> 00:27:30,713 Jeez, they all ran away from me. 444 00:27:30,713 --> 00:27:32,507 Can't even make friends with sheep. 445 00:27:32,507 --> 00:27:35,927 (sheep bleating) 446 00:27:35,927 --> 00:27:40,223 - The officers didn't want me to participate in the search. 447 00:27:43,017 --> 00:27:46,938 They thought it was best that I stay home at Gary's place 448 00:27:46,938 --> 00:27:51,943 in case he tried to contact me, call or show up. 449 00:27:52,902 --> 00:27:56,197 - I was very much familiar with the lead investigator. 450 00:27:56,197 --> 00:27:57,990 We had worked together before, 451 00:27:57,990 --> 00:28:00,410 and we were definitely familiar with each other. 452 00:28:01,661 --> 00:28:04,163 I called him to kind of check up on things 453 00:28:04,163 --> 00:28:08,042 and see where the investigation was headed, 454 00:28:08,042 --> 00:28:10,795 and if they had any new information. 455 00:28:10,795 --> 00:28:13,756 He told me that they had made a discovery in the truck. 456 00:28:14,257 --> 00:28:16,259 (ominous music) 457 00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:27,353 But since I was not formally hired by Beverley, 458 00:28:27,353 --> 00:28:30,064 I had to contact her first 459 00:28:30,064 --> 00:28:32,567 before they would discuss the matter with me. 460 00:28:34,193 --> 00:28:38,406 - I was hopeful that they had good news, 461 00:28:40,366 --> 00:28:45,371 that the officer asked me if Gary had any enemies, 462 00:28:45,913 --> 00:28:50,042 or if I knew anybody that may wanna hurt him. 463 00:28:52,628 --> 00:28:54,672 I asked the officer why, 464 00:28:56,215 --> 00:28:57,175 why would he, 465 00:28:58,050 --> 00:28:59,260 why would he ask that. 466 00:28:59,260 --> 00:29:04,265 And in confidence, they told me that they had evidence 467 00:29:07,852 --> 00:29:12,732 that Gary did not drive his truck out there. 468 00:29:14,609 --> 00:29:16,611 (droning music) 469 00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:28,706 - So I waited a couple of hours 470 00:29:28,706 --> 00:29:31,751 and went over to Gary's house where Beverly was staying, 471 00:29:31,751 --> 00:29:34,629 and she was absolutely hysterical. 472 00:29:34,629 --> 00:29:37,423 She told me that the police had informed her 473 00:29:37,423 --> 00:29:42,011 that in Gary's truck they had discovered prints 474 00:29:42,887 --> 00:29:47,892 on top of Gary's all over, on top of the steering wheel, 475 00:29:48,017 --> 00:29:50,728 the dashboard, the gear 476 00:29:50,728 --> 00:29:55,733 and what was most surprising or alarming 477 00:29:56,025 --> 00:30:01,030 was that they discovered footprints, bare footprints, 478 00:30:01,697 --> 00:30:06,702 and they were scarred and unidentifiable, 479 00:30:07,829 --> 00:30:10,540 which even added more to the mystery. 480 00:30:12,208 --> 00:30:14,210 (mystery music) 481 00:30:18,381 --> 00:30:19,799 - The footprint was, 482 00:30:22,468 --> 00:30:26,514 he said that it was barefoot. 483 00:30:35,189 --> 00:30:40,111 - So someone drove Gary's truck barefoot. 484 00:30:41,654 --> 00:30:44,156 And it just doesn't sit well with me, 485 00:30:44,156 --> 00:30:46,576 because it's like, what happened? 486 00:30:46,576 --> 00:30:49,161 Why was this person not wearing shoes? 487 00:30:50,746 --> 00:30:51,956 What was going on? 488 00:30:51,956 --> 00:30:54,083 Like, it's just odd, 489 00:30:54,083 --> 00:30:56,419 and it's very, 490 00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:59,213 I don't know, it's just, 491 00:31:00,256 --> 00:31:01,966 it made my skin crawl. 492 00:31:01,966 --> 00:31:03,843 (feet rustling) 493 00:31:03,843 --> 00:31:06,304 - [Gary] Oh, look at the little baby deer. 494 00:31:06,304 --> 00:31:09,181 That's kind of cool to see, you don't see that too often. 495 00:31:21,736 --> 00:31:24,989 (train engine roaring) 496 00:31:30,077 --> 00:31:33,164 (train hooting) 497 00:31:33,164 --> 00:31:36,417 (train engine roaring) 498 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,385 - You know, I hadn't been sleeping and everything, 499 00:31:46,385 --> 00:31:49,180 and my mind was just reeling, 500 00:31:50,681 --> 00:31:52,350 I had a lot of things going through my head, 501 00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:53,768 different scenarios. 502 00:31:55,186 --> 00:31:57,146 Maybe he picked up a friend? 503 00:31:58,939 --> 00:32:02,193 Maybe somebody stole his truck while he was out hiking? 504 00:32:03,152 --> 00:32:06,656 Or maybe he picked up a hitchhiker, 505 00:32:06,656 --> 00:32:11,661 and the hitchhiker had done something to him. 506 00:32:16,207 --> 00:32:17,500 I don't know, at this point, 507 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,086 so many things were just going through my head, 508 00:32:20,086 --> 00:32:24,215 just over and over again, 509 00:32:24,215 --> 00:32:28,803 which didn't help me try to get any sleep. 510 00:32:28,803 --> 00:32:33,808 (train engine roaring) (train hooting) 511 00:32:39,855 --> 00:32:43,442 - So Beverly, still wanted me to vet out Simon 512 00:32:43,442 --> 00:32:47,321 because she still thought he was very suspicious. 513 00:32:47,321 --> 00:32:48,531 And I did too. 514 00:32:48,531 --> 00:32:49,573 I looked into him again, 515 00:32:49,573 --> 00:32:54,161 and lo and behold, he was ruled out as a suspect. 516 00:32:55,413 --> 00:32:57,248 But through that process, 517 00:32:57,248 --> 00:33:01,085 I actually learned that Gary had been talking 518 00:33:01,085 --> 00:33:03,921 to someone that he met on a Facebook Messenger group. 519 00:33:05,214 --> 00:33:07,425 They had been corresponding with each other 520 00:33:07,425 --> 00:33:09,969 through a local sellers group, 521 00:33:09,969 --> 00:33:13,347 and I guess they had been commenting on each other's posts 522 00:33:13,347 --> 00:33:14,515 and one thing led to another 523 00:33:14,515 --> 00:33:18,227 and they became more than friends. 524 00:33:19,311 --> 00:33:24,275 When I confronted this person, he was very much terrified, 525 00:33:24,650 --> 00:33:25,735 didn't wanna talk to me, 526 00:33:25,735 --> 00:33:27,111 didn't wanna have anything to do with me 527 00:33:27,111 --> 00:33:28,112 or the investigation. 528 00:33:28,112 --> 00:33:29,864 And I told him, if you don't talk to me, 529 00:33:29,864 --> 00:33:31,490 you're gonna have to talk to the cops, 530 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:33,492 and they're gonna really bust your ass. 531 00:33:33,492 --> 00:33:35,327 And I think he was terrified 532 00:33:35,327 --> 00:33:37,038 of being outed in this community, 533 00:33:38,247 --> 00:33:42,960 because it's such a small town, not a lot of gay people. 534 00:33:43,836 --> 00:33:46,881 And so he did talk to me, he told me that, 535 00:33:46,881 --> 00:33:50,009 he didn't have anything to do with Gary's disappearance. 536 00:33:50,009 --> 00:33:54,555 He was sad and upset that Gary had disappeared, 537 00:33:54,555 --> 00:33:57,099 he didn't know what happened to him. 538 00:33:57,099 --> 00:33:58,559 I guess I did believe him. 539 00:33:59,769 --> 00:34:01,604 He really didn't wanna discuss it, 540 00:34:01,604 --> 00:34:04,398 but ultimately, when I did check out his alibi, 541 00:34:04,398 --> 00:34:07,234 he was cleared as a suspect. 542 00:34:07,234 --> 00:34:08,527 (sheep bleating) 543 00:34:08,527 --> 00:34:11,363 (ground rustling) 544 00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,659 - Hey guys, now that I'm done chasing sheep around 545 00:34:15,659 --> 00:34:17,745 like a crazy person in the mountains. 546 00:34:18,788 --> 00:34:21,248 I've seen a lot out here, mining camps, 547 00:34:21,248 --> 00:34:26,253 mines, abandoned towns, buildings, remnants of the past, 548 00:34:26,712 --> 00:34:29,256 but the coolest and my favorite personally, 549 00:34:29,256 --> 00:34:31,759 is all the Native American remnants, 550 00:34:31,759 --> 00:34:33,427 I love finding arrowheads 551 00:34:33,427 --> 00:34:36,764 and seeing petroglyphs on mountain sides. 552 00:34:36,764 --> 00:34:39,558 Just old writing from the native people 553 00:34:39,558 --> 00:34:43,145 who lived here long before any settlers moved in. 554 00:34:43,145 --> 00:34:45,272 To me, that's the coolest stuff to see. 555 00:34:45,272 --> 00:34:47,525 But it's getting dark now, the sun's setting 556 00:34:47,525 --> 00:34:50,444 I think I'm gonna call it a night and get settled in, 557 00:34:50,444 --> 00:34:51,403 in my camp. 558 00:34:51,403 --> 00:34:53,280 (ground rustling) 559 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,659 - They were still processing the crime scene and everything 560 00:34:56,659 --> 00:35:01,664 and they came across an envelope in his center console, 561 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:04,792 it had a (muffled speaking) money in it. 562 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,965 To me that said that whoever he was with, 563 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:15,177 wasn't there to take his money 564 00:35:15,177 --> 00:35:17,805 or anything that he might have had. 565 00:35:21,267 --> 00:35:23,269 (sentimental music) 566 00:35:35,698 --> 00:35:39,869 I woke to the police officers knocking on my door. 567 00:35:43,914 --> 00:35:47,001 And they were informing me that they called off the search. 568 00:35:48,252 --> 00:35:50,713 And while they're explaining things to me, 569 00:35:52,047 --> 00:35:53,424 I'm seeing them talking, 570 00:35:56,385 --> 00:35:58,178 I'm not comprehending any of the it, 571 00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:03,309 everything was just kind of flashing. 572 00:36:03,309 --> 00:36:07,897 And, I'm seeing their faces, and I'm seeing their lips move, 573 00:36:07,897 --> 00:36:10,774 and then they're looking at me like I'm crazy. 574 00:36:11,901 --> 00:36:15,654 And next thing I know, I'm on a stretcher. 575 00:36:15,654 --> 00:36:20,618 (heart throbbing) (beep sounds) 576 00:36:22,995 --> 00:36:28,000 And taken to the ER where they had to give me hydration 577 00:36:29,251 --> 00:36:34,256 and IV with fluids and medicine that helped me sleep, 578 00:36:36,383 --> 00:36:40,804 and for the first time since all of this started, 579 00:36:41,722 --> 00:36:43,807 I got 10 hours of sleep. 580 00:36:44,683 --> 00:36:47,478 - This was the largest search and rescue 581 00:36:47,478 --> 00:36:49,605 that Nevada had ever seen. 582 00:36:49,605 --> 00:36:53,609 And when they finally called it off, 583 00:36:53,609 --> 00:36:55,986 everyone was just so shocked. 584 00:36:55,986 --> 00:36:59,865 But, you mean, you can't search the entire state of Nevada, 585 00:36:59,865 --> 00:37:02,201 it's just too vast, it's too broad, 586 00:37:02,201 --> 00:37:07,164 and it had been so long that the chances of finding him 587 00:37:07,164 --> 00:37:11,293 and finding him alive were slim to none. 588 00:37:11,293 --> 00:37:13,587 - The investigation was dead in the water, 589 00:37:13,587 --> 00:37:15,589 we didn't have any leads, 590 00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:18,592 the fingerprints in the truck didn't match any database, 591 00:37:18,592 --> 00:37:20,844 so we didn't know what to do. 592 00:37:20,844 --> 00:37:21,679 But then. 593 00:37:22,721 --> 00:37:24,723 (intense music) 594 00:37:28,936 --> 00:37:30,688 Gary's followers started calling. 595 00:37:35,943 --> 00:37:38,320 And this whole thing was turned on its head. 596 00:37:40,781 --> 00:37:42,074 - So I'm at my desk, 597 00:37:42,074 --> 00:37:44,159 and I'm going through the show notes, 598 00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:45,494 I'm getting ready to go on air 599 00:37:45,494 --> 00:37:47,621 and my producer comes through my door, and he's like, 600 00:37:47,621 --> 00:37:50,958 you have a phone call, you have to take this phone call. 601 00:37:50,958 --> 00:37:54,795 And I get on the phone, and it's one of our listeners. 602 00:37:54,795 --> 00:37:59,341 And he's telling me that I have to look into Gary's blog. 603 00:37:59,341 --> 00:38:03,804 He's going on and on about this crazy story about Gary, 604 00:38:03,804 --> 00:38:08,058 and he's telling me that he thinks he knows where he is, 605 00:38:08,058 --> 00:38:11,270 he thinks he knows what happened to him. 606 00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:15,733 And that I have to go and look at this blog right now. 607 00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,360 - My friend Monica calls me 608 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,530 and tells me that it's all over the news 609 00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:26,535 that all these people are calling into the radio station. 610 00:38:26,910 --> 00:38:31,123 And she tells me that they're talking about Gary's blog 611 00:38:31,123 --> 00:38:34,001 and the fact that it needs to be read 612 00:38:34,001 --> 00:38:35,961 and that there's comments and everything. 613 00:38:35,961 --> 00:38:40,174 And so once I got discharged, 614 00:38:40,174 --> 00:38:41,675 I went straight to Gary's house, 615 00:38:41,675 --> 00:38:45,179 so I could read the blog and see what all this was 616 00:38:45,179 --> 00:38:47,181 that they were talking about. 617 00:38:47,181 --> 00:38:49,725 - Unfortunately, Beverly found out about Gary's blog 618 00:38:49,725 --> 00:38:53,270 hours before we did, and she went right over there, 619 00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:55,439 and really messed things up. 620 00:38:55,439 --> 00:38:57,983 - Hey guys, it's me again. 621 00:38:57,983 --> 00:38:59,818 A lot of people have been following the blog 622 00:38:59,818 --> 00:39:01,695 and new to the blog and been saying, 623 00:39:01,695 --> 00:39:04,782 I'm just trying to copy "Naked and Afraid". 624 00:39:04,782 --> 00:39:08,369 And as you can tell, I'm not naked or afraid out here, 625 00:39:08,369 --> 00:39:10,537 so I'm not trying to copy the show and, 626 00:39:11,663 --> 00:39:14,875 also my ex loved that show, so I'm sick of it, 627 00:39:14,875 --> 00:39:17,669 there's a reason why people are called exes. 628 00:39:17,669 --> 00:39:20,381 - So while I'm trying to navigate through everything 629 00:39:20,381 --> 00:39:22,424 on his blog, 630 00:39:22,424 --> 00:39:24,802 going through the operator stuff and everything 631 00:39:24,802 --> 00:39:31,183 and I finally get in there and I realize he has 50,000, 632 00:39:32,726 --> 00:39:34,394 50,000 viewers. 633 00:39:37,147 --> 00:39:39,066 I was shocked. 634 00:39:39,066 --> 00:39:42,653 - Not a single person in Gary's life knew about his blog, 635 00:39:42,653 --> 00:39:44,071 which was really shocking 636 00:39:44,071 --> 00:39:47,032 considering the fact that he had 50,000 followers. 637 00:39:48,951 --> 00:39:51,453 That really says something, if you think about it. 638 00:39:55,833 --> 00:39:59,336 - Of course, I immediately jump on my computer 639 00:39:59,336 --> 00:40:03,841 and I go to his blog, and I'll never forget the title, 640 00:40:03,841 --> 00:40:05,676 because I actually thought it was really clever. 641 00:40:05,676 --> 00:40:09,304 It was called "Don't Hike With Headphones". 642 00:40:09,304 --> 00:40:11,348 - Hey guys up here at the top of the mountain, 643 00:40:11,348 --> 00:40:15,394 as you can see, there's the great view behind me. 644 00:40:16,687 --> 00:40:19,982 One of the questions I've got asked on the blog a lot was, 645 00:40:19,982 --> 00:40:21,942 what dangers (muffled speaking), 646 00:40:21,942 --> 00:40:24,027 are there any threatening animals 647 00:40:24,027 --> 00:40:25,863 like rattlesnakes and mountain lions? 648 00:40:25,863 --> 00:40:29,658 And, yeah, there're rattlesnakes at the lower elevations, 649 00:40:29,658 --> 00:40:31,910 you might have noticed I don't hike with headphones 650 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:34,454 or anything on so I can listen for them. 651 00:40:34,454 --> 00:40:37,875 - And it's your basic, survivalist type blog, 652 00:40:37,875 --> 00:40:41,253 you know, how to build a fire, how to filter water, 653 00:40:41,253 --> 00:40:43,130 and I just start scrolling through 654 00:40:43,130 --> 00:40:45,090 and I scroll and scroll all the way to the, 655 00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:47,885 like the latest videos that he had posted. 656 00:40:47,885 --> 00:40:49,428 - I'm trying to navigate 657 00:40:49,428 --> 00:40:52,639 to find out where these notifications are coming from 658 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:56,101 because he is getting notification after notification, 659 00:40:56,101 --> 00:40:59,563 I mean, it's ding, ding, ding, ding. 660 00:40:59,563 --> 00:41:02,858 - So I was driving when I found out Gary had a blog, 661 00:41:02,858 --> 00:41:06,820 I pulled over and looked for it on my phone. 662 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:09,031 And the first thing that I noticed 663 00:41:09,031 --> 00:41:10,824 was that he didn't go by his real name, 664 00:41:10,824 --> 00:41:13,285 he went by Scorpion Sam. 665 00:41:13,285 --> 00:41:15,537 - My biggest thing I've ever ran into 666 00:41:15,537 --> 00:41:18,123 was I got stung by a scorpion, 667 00:41:18,123 --> 00:41:20,626 kicking over a rock once, 668 00:41:20,626 --> 00:41:25,214 had to go to the hospital once I got back to my truck, 669 00:41:25,214 --> 00:41:27,799 that was the day I hiked with a swelling up hand. 670 00:41:29,426 --> 00:41:32,179 - I'm finally able to get to the notifications 671 00:41:32,179 --> 00:41:34,431 and this notification pops up 672 00:41:34,431 --> 00:41:37,893 and they're saying, I bet he found it, 673 00:41:41,063 --> 00:41:42,648 and that something bad happened, 674 00:41:42,648 --> 00:41:47,653 and I'm thinking, they're saying he found it? 675 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,030 And something bad happened? 676 00:41:50,030 --> 00:41:51,406 Found what? 677 00:41:52,366 --> 00:41:55,869 - And then came Gary's now infamous video post. 678 00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,332 I have worked a lot of strange cases in my career, 679 00:42:00,332 --> 00:42:05,045 and Gary's by far was the most unusual, 680 00:42:05,963 --> 00:42:08,882 just the way that he described what he was looking at, 681 00:42:08,882 --> 00:42:13,011 what he saw, how terrified he was, 682 00:42:13,011 --> 00:42:18,016 it just really scares me. 683 00:42:20,978 --> 00:42:24,690 - So I started watching the second to last video 684 00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:25,941 on Gary's blog. 685 00:42:25,941 --> 00:42:28,694 And he's at his home and he's sitting there 686 00:42:28,694 --> 00:42:31,113 and he's telling his viewers 687 00:42:33,573 --> 00:42:37,327 basically what he came across on his last expedition. 688 00:42:37,327 --> 00:42:39,997 - I saw his last three videos 689 00:42:39,997 --> 00:42:40,872 and, 690 00:42:43,667 --> 00:42:44,835 what I saw, 691 00:42:47,921 --> 00:42:50,591 changed everything. 692 00:42:52,259 --> 00:42:54,261 (ominous music) 693 00:43:00,684 --> 00:43:03,395 - He's pretty worked up in this video, 694 00:43:03,395 --> 00:43:06,565 you can tell he's nervous, he's scared. 695 00:43:06,565 --> 00:43:08,734 - As soon as his video started, 696 00:43:11,194 --> 00:43:15,907 I could tell he was troubled by something, 697 00:43:15,907 --> 00:43:18,493 something had him so unnerved. 698 00:43:19,870 --> 00:43:22,873 He was three days into his expedition, 699 00:43:22,873 --> 00:43:27,294 and he started to smell smoke and that, 700 00:43:27,294 --> 00:43:29,379 and he was out in the middle of nowhere. 701 00:43:29,379 --> 00:43:34,301 So he got curious and started to look around. 702 00:43:35,177 --> 00:43:37,012 - He comes across this cabin, 703 00:43:37,012 --> 00:43:40,974 and it's not like a nice cabin, it's like a makeshift cabin, 704 00:43:40,974 --> 00:43:45,979 almost kind of like a homeless type of structure, 705 00:43:46,188 --> 00:43:47,522 sticks and twigs, 706 00:43:47,522 --> 00:43:50,901 and there's smoke coming out of the chimney. 707 00:43:52,235 --> 00:43:56,782 And Gary's not someone to be scared of someone else, 708 00:43:56,782 --> 00:43:57,783 out in the wilderness, 709 00:43:57,783 --> 00:44:02,788 but he said he was just like frozen in his tracks, 710 00:44:03,288 --> 00:44:07,000 and he just felt this like sixth sense 711 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,128 of basically impending doom. 712 00:44:11,004 --> 00:44:15,842 - It was the look on his face, that really got to me, 713 00:44:15,842 --> 00:44:19,137 when he described this cabin out in Nevada. 714 00:44:21,765 --> 00:44:25,352 - He said that the longer he stood and looked at it 715 00:44:27,396 --> 00:44:31,650 the more spooked that he got the feeling of dread, 716 00:44:31,650 --> 00:44:34,986 the sixth sense that he needed to get out of there. 717 00:44:34,986 --> 00:44:38,865 - And he wanted nothing to do with that place. 718 00:44:38,865 --> 00:44:42,369 And so, he hightails it out of there 719 00:44:42,369 --> 00:44:46,540 and he goes to sleep in his tent, 720 00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:51,128 I remember this because he talks about how he was so scared, 721 00:44:51,128 --> 00:44:54,047 he slept with his shoes on all night. 722 00:44:54,047 --> 00:44:55,590 You know, he didn't bring his firearms, 723 00:44:55,590 --> 00:45:00,595 so he was totally just vulnerable out there and terrified. 724 00:45:02,806 --> 00:45:07,811 And he wakes up the next morning, and there's footprints, 725 00:45:08,228 --> 00:45:11,273 and they're barefoot footprints. 726 00:45:11,273 --> 00:45:13,483 - These two things are now connected, 727 00:45:13,483 --> 00:45:14,776 we had something to go on. 728 00:45:16,361 --> 00:45:18,363 (ominous music) 729 00:45:24,953 --> 00:45:26,913 - [Beverly] The hike back to his track, 730 00:45:26,913 --> 00:45:28,790 which took three days, 731 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:32,210 he felt like somebody was following him. 732 00:45:32,586 --> 00:45:34,588 (ominous music) 733 00:45:35,172 --> 00:45:39,009 - So this was a really sad story to me, 734 00:45:39,009 --> 00:45:42,179 to see Gary's followers turn on him, 735 00:45:42,179 --> 00:45:44,931 that blog was everything to him. 736 00:45:44,931 --> 00:45:49,936 He really admired them, and their comments, 737 00:45:52,522 --> 00:45:54,858 it was something really special to him. 738 00:45:54,858 --> 00:45:59,863 And to see them go from loving him to bullying him, 739 00:46:00,530 --> 00:46:03,658 calling him a loser, a liar, 740 00:46:03,658 --> 00:46:07,579 and putting him down, it was really sad to see. 741 00:46:09,915 --> 00:46:12,250 - And the comments are like, 742 00:46:12,250 --> 00:46:15,921 everyone's kind of just like, well, go back, 743 00:46:16,755 --> 00:46:18,423 take video, show us this place, 744 00:46:18,423 --> 00:46:21,218 does this place even exist, is this even real? 745 00:46:21,218 --> 00:46:23,845 And he's getting like really hit by his followers, 746 00:46:23,845 --> 00:46:26,807 basically, they're kind of bullying him, 747 00:46:27,682 --> 00:46:30,352 they don't believe that he came across this, 748 00:46:30,352 --> 00:46:33,855 they go to his blog for a reason, 749 00:46:33,855 --> 00:46:35,690 and now they feel like he's just 750 00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:38,610 getting into ghost stories or something. 751 00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:39,444 And so they, 752 00:46:40,487 --> 00:46:45,283 I really feel like he fell into a bit of cyber bullying 753 00:46:45,283 --> 00:46:50,163 and the fact that they were not gonna be 754 00:46:50,163 --> 00:46:51,873 his faithful followers anymore, 755 00:46:51,873 --> 00:46:56,503 unless he goes back and proves that he saw this, 756 00:46:56,503 --> 00:46:58,421 he experienced this. 757 00:46:58,421 --> 00:47:01,091 (air whooshing) 758 00:47:04,094 --> 00:47:07,639 - You know, it broke my heart to read the comments 759 00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:12,644 that said that he was nothing but a lonely loser, 760 00:47:12,852 --> 00:47:16,439 and that all he was doing 761 00:47:16,439 --> 00:47:20,735 was trying to get attention by making shit up 762 00:47:20,735 --> 00:47:23,822 and that they didn't believe him. 763 00:47:25,615 --> 00:47:27,784 - I actually didn't know about the blog, 764 00:47:28,618 --> 00:47:31,371 but I knew he was doing something 765 00:47:31,371 --> 00:47:36,251 because he was always in the backyard making videos, 766 00:47:36,251 --> 00:47:38,461 telling the camera how to make a campfire, 767 00:47:39,921 --> 00:47:41,631 or I always heard him in his room 768 00:47:41,631 --> 00:47:43,717 like giving survival tips and things. 769 00:47:44,551 --> 00:47:47,262 - [Gary] Hey, guys, just walking through the woods here. 770 00:47:48,138 --> 00:47:50,765 It's a beautiful day in the backwoods in Nevada. 771 00:47:50,765 --> 00:47:52,684 But a lot of people asked what I would do 772 00:47:52,684 --> 00:47:54,102 if I got lost back here, 773 00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:59,524 I had to spends several more days than I planned on, 774 00:47:59,524 --> 00:48:00,859 I guess first thing I would do 775 00:48:00,859 --> 00:48:04,696 would be find a nice nutritious cow patty, 776 00:48:05,614 --> 00:48:07,782 because there're so yummy. 777 00:48:07,782 --> 00:48:11,077 I'm just kidding, you don't wanna eat cow shit. 778 00:48:11,077 --> 00:48:11,995 That will be bad. 779 00:48:12,829 --> 00:48:15,916 But there are ways you can scavenger for food out here. 780 00:48:17,334 --> 00:48:20,295 (train engine roaring) 781 00:48:20,295 --> 00:48:23,506 (train hooting) 782 00:48:23,506 --> 00:48:26,217 - I'm so upset by everything and, 783 00:48:27,135 --> 00:48:31,806 I wanted to download this 784 00:48:31,806 --> 00:48:35,518 and do what I could so that I could take it to the cops, 785 00:48:35,518 --> 00:48:40,523 and during all the frustration and the upset and everything, 786 00:48:42,817 --> 00:48:45,028 I accidentally deleted it. 787 00:48:47,656 --> 00:48:51,034 - Beverly really beat herself up about deleting the video, 788 00:48:51,034 --> 00:48:53,995 and I felt bad for her. 789 00:48:53,995 --> 00:48:57,707 I didn't wanna press it because I knew she felt terrible, 790 00:48:57,707 --> 00:48:59,959 her brother was missing. 791 00:48:59,959 --> 00:49:04,172 But it was a missed opportunity definitely, 792 00:49:04,172 --> 00:49:05,840 and a definite disappointment. 793 00:49:06,841 --> 00:49:11,805 - The last video of Gary on that blog, 794 00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:16,601 is him basically telling his followers, 795 00:49:16,601 --> 00:49:19,938 okay, here I go, I'll go back. 796 00:49:20,939 --> 00:49:22,607 And he doesn't look okay about it. 797 00:49:23,566 --> 00:49:27,988 - Gary's final video is truly haunting. 798 00:49:27,988 --> 00:49:32,450 And it is really the beginning of a bigger mystery. 799 00:49:35,286 --> 00:49:39,749 - Gary's last video that he posted to his blog 800 00:49:39,749 --> 00:49:43,753 said that he was gonna go back out 801 00:49:46,339 --> 00:49:50,969 and record everything and prove to everyone 802 00:49:50,969 --> 00:49:55,181 that this was real, that this really existed. 803 00:50:00,937 --> 00:50:04,983 It's the last time that he ever posted anything 804 00:50:04,983 --> 00:50:06,609 or anybody heard from him. 805 00:50:08,236 --> 00:50:10,238 (ominous music) 806 00:50:18,163 --> 00:50:20,832 (air whooshing) 807 00:50:29,424 --> 00:50:31,593 - Hey guys, I'm back. 808 00:50:31,593 --> 00:50:32,635 Wanted to make a video 809 00:50:32,635 --> 00:50:36,014 about the different comments people left on my last video. 810 00:50:38,057 --> 00:50:40,977 A lot of you were coming up with some crazy theories, 811 00:50:40,977 --> 00:50:44,314 what was out there, what I saw in the woods. 812 00:50:45,398 --> 00:50:47,484 Some of you don't believe it, 813 00:50:47,484 --> 00:50:49,360 some of you are asking for the location 814 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,071 and wanna find it yourself. 815 00:50:52,071 --> 00:50:53,782 I'm really against people going out 816 00:50:53,782 --> 00:50:57,035 in the backwoods in Nevada without experience, 817 00:50:57,035 --> 00:50:58,745 there's a lot dangers out there, 818 00:50:58,745 --> 00:51:02,207 from old mines to just random people 819 00:51:02,207 --> 00:51:04,459 and you can get lost easily, 820 00:51:04,459 --> 00:51:06,753 the scenery looks a lot the same, 821 00:51:06,753 --> 00:51:08,797 and if there's no trails, 822 00:51:08,797 --> 00:51:12,300 you can get lost and turn around and be out there for days. 823 00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,469 And if you don't bring enough food or water, 824 00:51:14,469 --> 00:51:15,553 you're in real danger. 825 00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:19,140 So I don't wanna give out the location 826 00:51:19,140 --> 00:51:23,102 and just be the one that causes a whole bunch of people 827 00:51:23,102 --> 00:51:25,063 to go out in the backwoods in Nevada. 828 00:51:26,147 --> 00:51:29,192 I'll go out there, find the shelter again. 829 00:51:29,192 --> 00:51:32,153 This time, I'll bring my camera and firearm, 830 00:51:32,153 --> 00:51:33,863 I have to do some work first, 831 00:51:33,863 --> 00:51:36,574 but I plan on leaving on the 22nd, 832 00:51:36,574 --> 00:51:39,410 and I'll need a good six days to be out there again. 833 00:51:40,453 --> 00:51:43,289 It's a good three days in, and three days back, 834 00:51:43,289 --> 00:51:45,708 but we're gonna find out what this is, 835 00:51:45,708 --> 00:51:49,587 and look forward to another video, 836 00:51:49,587 --> 00:51:51,256 once we finally get out there, 837 00:51:52,298 --> 00:51:54,300 I'll have something for you guys posted. 838 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,682 (ominous music) 839 00:52:01,349 --> 00:52:03,268 - He goes and that's it. 840 00:52:03,268 --> 00:52:04,561 And that's the last, 841 00:52:05,603 --> 00:52:08,064 that's the last video of Gary. 842 00:52:08,064 --> 00:52:11,568 And no one knows where he was going. 843 00:52:12,777 --> 00:52:17,198 So the search is so vast and Nevada is huge, 844 00:52:17,198 --> 00:52:20,451 and he could be anywhere. 845 00:52:21,744 --> 00:52:23,746 (ominous music) 846 00:52:34,883 --> 00:52:37,302 This place that he talks about could be anywhere. 847 00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:43,308 - This became a perfect storm 848 00:52:43,308 --> 00:52:46,895 because now we knew what Gary was doing, 849 00:52:46,895 --> 00:52:48,646 we just had no idea where. 850 00:52:49,898 --> 00:52:54,903 - I had no idea that he had this whole other life, 851 00:52:55,028 --> 00:52:57,989 this blog, all these followers and everything 852 00:52:57,989 --> 00:52:59,198 had I known that, 853 00:53:00,074 --> 00:53:04,621 I would have never, ever, let him go back out there. 854 00:53:05,914 --> 00:53:09,042 - This whole case turned from a missing persons 855 00:53:09,876 --> 00:53:12,921 to a huge mystery. 856 00:53:12,921 --> 00:53:14,422 Whose cabin was this? 857 00:53:14,422 --> 00:53:16,257 I mean, who lives out there? 858 00:53:16,257 --> 00:53:17,425 Where is this cabin? 859 00:53:17,425 --> 00:53:19,928 I mean, if it's in the middle of nowhere, 860 00:53:19,928 --> 00:53:23,348 what type of person lives in the middle of nowhere? 861 00:53:23,348 --> 00:53:27,268 And if you're about to go find that person, 862 00:53:27,268 --> 00:53:29,729 I don't know if they're gonna be too happy to be found. 863 00:53:29,729 --> 00:53:32,190 I mean, if they're out there that far, 864 00:53:32,190 --> 00:53:34,192 they're out there that far for a reason. 865 00:53:34,901 --> 00:53:36,903 (ominous music) 866 00:53:40,448 --> 00:53:43,868 - Once the radio station broadcasts about it, 867 00:53:43,868 --> 00:53:45,703 his blog and everything, 868 00:53:45,703 --> 00:53:47,956 everybody just went crazy 869 00:53:47,956 --> 00:53:50,291 before the cops could even take it down. 870 00:53:50,291 --> 00:53:55,296 The conspiracy theories were just everywhere, 871 00:53:55,505 --> 00:54:00,510 from witches to aliens, area 51, you name it. 872 00:54:02,345 --> 00:54:04,472 - People started coming out of the woodwork 873 00:54:04,472 --> 00:54:06,474 and everyone had a theory 874 00:54:06,474 --> 00:54:11,479 as to who the cabin belonged to, what was in the cabin. 875 00:54:12,522 --> 00:54:16,985 There were some comments about Gary had discovered a witch, 876 00:54:16,985 --> 00:54:19,696 and she was making secret potions 877 00:54:19,696 --> 00:54:22,073 and somehow he had gotten involved, 878 00:54:22,073 --> 00:54:26,244 and I mean it was crazy. 879 00:54:26,244 --> 00:54:28,079 Other people thought it was just a hermit, 880 00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,581 you know someone who just wanted to be left alone. 881 00:54:32,291 --> 00:54:34,711 People thought that maybe it was a government, 882 00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:39,132 secret government operation, aliens. 883 00:54:41,592 --> 00:54:42,760 I mean it's, 884 00:54:43,803 --> 00:54:44,971 I could go on and on 885 00:54:44,971 --> 00:54:47,557 about the many theories that people thought. 886 00:54:47,557 --> 00:54:49,976 - The only reasonable explanation I could come up with 887 00:54:49,976 --> 00:54:53,021 was maybe, Gary had stumbled upon 888 00:54:53,021 --> 00:54:56,107 an illegal marijuana growing operation 889 00:54:56,107 --> 00:54:58,318 out there in the middle of nowhere in Nevada 890 00:54:59,277 --> 00:55:03,072 and they killed him for it, it has happened before. 891 00:55:04,323 --> 00:55:05,158 But, 892 00:55:07,744 --> 00:55:08,828 I was wrong. 893 00:55:12,874 --> 00:55:17,879 - I just couldn't shake this sickening feeling. 894 00:55:19,422 --> 00:55:21,424 (ominous music) 895 00:55:28,431 --> 00:55:30,266 Before I knew it, the cops showed up 896 00:55:30,266 --> 00:55:32,643 and they had known all about his blog 897 00:55:32,643 --> 00:55:36,105 and I was actually on the computer when they got there. 898 00:55:36,105 --> 00:55:40,651 And they gathered everything up, seized everything, 899 00:55:40,651 --> 00:55:43,071 including his hard drives. 900 00:55:43,071 --> 00:55:44,697 - [Gary] Guys, 901 00:55:44,697 --> 00:55:46,157 another model train video here, 902 00:55:46,157 --> 00:55:48,785 I just got back from a flea market, 903 00:55:48,785 --> 00:55:51,120 and look what I picked up today. 904 00:55:52,622 --> 00:55:57,502 Got a nice little HO diesel locomotive, 905 00:55:57,502 --> 00:55:59,587 lettered for one of my favorite railroads, 906 00:55:59,587 --> 00:56:01,672 it's called the California Western, 907 00:56:02,757 --> 00:56:04,759 out of Northern California. 908 00:56:04,759 --> 00:56:07,762 (plastic train rattling) 909 00:56:07,762 --> 00:56:09,972 Set that down. 910 00:56:09,972 --> 00:56:14,977 Then got this brand new steam engine for the Santa Fe. 911 00:56:15,895 --> 00:56:17,897 (ominous music) 912 00:56:24,487 --> 00:56:27,698 - My private investigator called and said that, 913 00:56:27,698 --> 00:56:32,703 the detectives on the case wanted to meet with me. 914 00:56:32,745 --> 00:56:36,624 So I ended up going down to the precinct and, 915 00:56:39,585 --> 00:56:42,630 they kept asking me, is there anything you need? 916 00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:44,215 Have you eaten today? 917 00:56:45,341 --> 00:56:47,760 Just beating around the bush 918 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,765 and I finally asked them, what is going on? 919 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,434 - [Man] It's back on. 920 00:56:55,434 --> 00:56:58,271 (dramatic chase music) 921 00:56:58,271 --> 00:57:00,106 - We are back with a break in the case 922 00:57:00,106 --> 00:57:02,275 of missing hiker, Gary Hinge. 923 00:57:02,275 --> 00:57:04,277 Was made yesterday when his backpack 924 00:57:04,277 --> 00:57:08,406 was discovered by a couple camping in White Pine County. 925 00:57:08,406 --> 00:57:09,866 When they woke up in the morning, 926 00:57:09,866 --> 00:57:10,992 they found the backpack 927 00:57:10,992 --> 00:57:14,120 had been intentionally placed in their campsite. 928 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,663 What they found inside 929 00:57:15,663 --> 00:57:19,208 has sent a shockwave through the state of Nevada. 930 00:57:19,208 --> 00:57:23,254 Hinge's truck was found parked in Eureka earlier this month. 931 00:57:23,254 --> 00:57:25,465 But police now say they have evidence 932 00:57:25,465 --> 00:57:26,841 that it was parked there, 933 00:57:26,841 --> 00:57:29,844 to throw off investigators searching for him. 934 00:57:29,844 --> 00:57:34,223 - They woke up to find Gary's backpack 935 00:57:37,518 --> 00:57:40,188 draped on a shovel that they had there. 936 00:57:42,857 --> 00:57:44,358 And when they opened it, 937 00:57:46,861 --> 00:57:49,197 Gary's belongings were in there, 938 00:57:50,865 --> 00:57:52,867 (ominous music) 939 00:57:56,871 --> 00:57:58,873 as well as a severed hand, 940 00:58:01,292 --> 00:58:02,126 Gary's hand. 941 00:58:03,085 --> 00:58:06,005 (ominous music) 942 00:58:22,897 --> 00:58:25,274 - [Bill] The way that his hand was severed 943 00:58:25,274 --> 00:58:28,194 was incredibly violent. 944 00:58:28,194 --> 00:58:32,406 The way that it was chopped off, was just gruesome. 945 00:58:32,406 --> 00:58:34,200 - It was deliberately placed there, 946 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,579 because someone wanted it to be found. 947 00:58:38,579 --> 00:58:40,081 - The forensic showed, 948 00:58:41,374 --> 00:58:45,002 that his hand had been severed, 949 00:58:46,837 --> 00:58:49,674 for more than five weeks. 950 00:58:49,674 --> 00:58:52,927 - And it was still clutching a video camera. 951 00:58:53,803 --> 00:58:56,597 And what's even more crazy was, 952 00:58:58,349 --> 00:59:01,561 the hand wasn't like torn off from a body, 953 00:59:01,561 --> 00:59:03,980 it was a clean cut. 954 00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:05,273 - I was gutted, 955 00:59:07,817 --> 00:59:10,736 by the fact that he had suffered. 956 00:59:11,737 --> 00:59:13,739 - Once the camera was discovered, 957 00:59:13,739 --> 00:59:17,326 everybody wanted to know, is there a tape? 958 00:59:18,536 --> 00:59:20,288 And does the tape work? 959 00:59:20,288 --> 00:59:22,873 And what's on the tape? 960 00:59:22,873 --> 00:59:24,959 (camera shuttering) 961 00:59:24,959 --> 00:59:27,670 - We were very anxious for the crime lab 962 00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:29,171 to process the evidence. 963 00:59:29,171 --> 00:59:30,131 (camera shutters) 964 00:59:30,131 --> 00:59:33,801 And sure enough, when they did, 965 00:59:33,801 --> 00:59:36,095 the memory chip was still in the camera. 966 00:59:37,263 --> 00:59:40,099 (camera shutters) 967 00:59:40,891 --> 00:59:45,104 (ominous music intensifies) 968 00:59:52,653 --> 00:59:56,073 It was truly terrifying to watch 969 00:59:56,073 --> 01:00:01,078 and I can't even imagine the true horror 970 01:00:01,495 --> 01:00:03,164 that he faced out there. 971 01:00:04,332 --> 01:00:08,753 - Bill calls me and the forensic investigators 972 01:00:08,753 --> 01:00:13,716 have video of Gary's final moments 973 01:00:14,008 --> 01:00:17,803 and so they take us into a room. 974 01:00:19,263 --> 01:00:20,723 - The team thought it would be best 975 01:00:20,723 --> 01:00:25,102 if I sat down with Beverly and watched the videos with her, 976 01:00:25,102 --> 01:00:28,856 because I had a relationship with her 977 01:00:28,856 --> 01:00:31,609 and I had a kind of a special rapport. 978 01:00:31,609 --> 01:00:33,194 So they thought it would probably be best 979 01:00:33,194 --> 01:00:34,945 if maybe I sat down with her first. 980 01:00:36,989 --> 01:00:38,866 - Bill started the first video 981 01:00:38,866 --> 01:00:45,498 and there was Gary shining his light around, saying hello. 982 01:00:47,833 --> 01:00:52,004 And the innocence in his voice, 983 01:00:54,757 --> 01:00:56,550 I just, 984 01:00:58,636 --> 01:00:59,804 I couldn't do it. 985 01:01:00,930 --> 01:01:02,014 I 986 01:01:03,557 --> 01:01:04,767 I had to stop. 987 01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:11,482 And then Bill finished watching. 988 01:01:16,654 --> 01:01:18,656 (ominous music) 989 01:01:27,331 --> 01:01:29,917 - [Bill] The clips begin like all the other clips, 990 01:01:31,210 --> 01:01:32,753 Gary's even smiling, 991 01:01:33,963 --> 01:01:36,882 but he has no idea what's about to happen. 992 01:01:39,343 --> 01:01:41,762 - Hey guys, a little video update. 993 01:01:41,762 --> 01:01:43,139 I am. 994 01:01:43,139 --> 01:01:43,973 (thunder roars) 995 01:01:43,973 --> 01:01:44,974 Oh, there's thunder. 996 01:01:45,808 --> 01:01:48,602 Storm's coming in, I gotta make this quick. 997 01:01:48,602 --> 01:01:50,271 Got a whole nother ridge line to climb 998 01:01:50,271 --> 01:01:53,649 before I get to the spot where I saw that shelter 999 01:01:53,649 --> 01:01:57,111 but I'm about halfway there, a day and a half in. 1000 01:01:59,530 --> 01:02:00,865 We'll see what we find. 1001 01:02:02,116 --> 01:02:05,578 Climbed over one mountain range already, got one more to go. 1002 01:02:06,662 --> 01:02:08,122 And, better make it quick, 1003 01:02:08,122 --> 01:02:11,375 because that storm's coming in fast. 1004 01:02:11,375 --> 01:02:13,127 We'll see what's on the other side. 1005 01:02:14,044 --> 01:02:14,962 I got (muffled speaking) ways to go, 1006 01:02:14,962 --> 01:02:16,130 but, weird thing is, 1007 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:19,550 I'm already distinctly smelling the smoke, 1008 01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:21,385 like I smelled last time. 1009 01:02:21,385 --> 01:02:24,388 There's no fires around, there shouldn't be anyone out here, 1010 01:02:25,389 --> 01:02:28,267 but it's very faint but very distinct smell of smoke. 1011 01:02:29,643 --> 01:02:30,686 Kind of getting creeped out 1012 01:02:30,686 --> 01:02:33,647 but not as much as I was last time yet. 1013 01:02:33,647 --> 01:02:35,399 We'll see what happens. 1014 01:02:35,399 --> 01:02:37,401 Look for another video update soon. 1015 01:02:57,755 --> 01:02:59,340 (beep sound) 1016 01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:02,009 (air whooshing) 1017 01:03:36,794 --> 01:03:38,295 (beep sound) 1018 01:03:38,295 --> 01:03:40,214 (air whooshing) 1019 01:03:40,214 --> 01:03:43,050 (rattling sounds) 1020 01:03:44,260 --> 01:03:47,096 (rattling sounds) 1021 01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:07,575 (camera rattling) 1022 01:04:09,326 --> 01:04:10,786 (beep sound) 1023 01:04:10,786 --> 01:04:13,455 (air whooshing) 1024 01:04:18,627 --> 01:04:21,463 (camera rattling) 1025 01:04:23,549 --> 01:04:25,050 (beep sound) 1026 01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:27,720 (air whooshing) 1027 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,910 (air whooshing) 1028 01:04:58,667 --> 01:05:01,587 (gravel crunching) 1029 01:05:03,756 --> 01:05:06,383 (air whooshing) 1030 01:05:14,767 --> 01:05:16,310 (beep sound) 1031 01:05:16,310 --> 01:05:18,979 (air whooshing) 1032 01:05:29,281 --> 01:05:32,201 All right, here's the final marker. 1033 01:05:39,583 --> 01:05:43,170 (indistinct music playing) 1034 01:05:59,645 --> 01:06:03,232 (indistinct ominous music) 1035 01:06:34,888 --> 01:06:38,767 (gravel crunching sounds) 1036 01:06:38,767 --> 01:06:42,354 (indistinct ominous music) 1037 01:07:20,225 --> 01:07:21,059 (beep sound) 1038 01:07:21,059 --> 01:07:23,729 (air whooshing) 1039 01:07:29,234 --> 01:07:32,070 (rattling sounds) 1040 01:07:32,946 --> 01:07:33,781 (beep sound) 1041 01:07:33,781 --> 01:07:36,450 (air whooshing) 1042 01:07:42,664 --> 01:07:44,541 (rattling sounds) 1043 01:07:54,802 --> 01:07:57,471 (air whooshing) 1044 01:08:24,331 --> 01:08:27,167 (camera rattling) 1045 01:08:37,344 --> 01:08:40,097 (ominous sounds) 1046 01:08:49,356 --> 01:08:52,943 (indistinct ominous music) 1047 01:09:19,303 --> 01:09:22,181 (camera rattling) 1048 01:09:22,181 --> 01:09:25,767 (indistinct ominous music) 1049 01:09:33,525 --> 01:09:36,445 (fluttering sound) 1050 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,398 (gravel crunching) 1051 01:10:17,235 --> 01:10:20,530 (ticking sound) 1052 01:10:20,530 --> 01:10:23,450 (gravel crunching) 1053 01:10:49,643 --> 01:10:52,062 (beep sound) 1054 01:10:55,482 --> 01:10:58,151 (ticking sound) 1055 01:11:05,075 --> 01:11:07,369 (rattling sounds) 1056 01:11:07,369 --> 01:11:10,122 (gunshot blasts) 1057 01:11:13,625 --> 01:11:16,294 (ticking sound) 1058 01:11:17,754 --> 01:11:18,672 (groaning sounds) 1059 01:11:18,672 --> 01:11:22,259 (gunshot blasts) 1060 01:11:22,259 --> 01:11:25,012 (gunshot blasts) 1061 01:11:38,900 --> 01:11:40,152 (beep sound) 1062 01:11:40,152 --> 01:11:42,529 (gunshot blasts) 1063 01:11:42,529 --> 01:11:45,282 (gunshot blasts) 1064 01:11:52,164 --> 01:11:54,374 (air whooshing) 1065 01:11:54,374 --> 01:11:56,626 (beep sound) 1066 01:11:56,626 --> 01:11:59,379 (ticking sounds) 1067 01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:10,057 (beep sound) 1068 01:12:16,146 --> 01:12:18,732 (camera rattling) 1069 01:12:18,732 --> 01:12:21,485 (ticking sounds) 1070 01:12:29,034 --> 01:12:31,870 (camera rattling) 1071 01:12:47,511 --> 01:12:48,512 (beep sound) 1072 01:12:48,512 --> 01:12:50,764 (rattling sounds) 1073 01:12:50,764 --> 01:12:53,391 (ticking sound) 1074 01:12:54,935 --> 01:12:57,604 (air whooshing) 1075 01:13:03,902 --> 01:13:06,822 (stones crunching) 1076 01:13:33,265 --> 01:13:36,101 (camera rattling) 1077 01:13:43,984 --> 01:13:46,820 (camera rattling) 1078 01:13:53,827 --> 01:13:56,746 (crunching sounds) 1079 01:14:01,042 --> 01:14:04,129 (insects fluttering) 1080 01:14:57,307 --> 01:14:59,726 (Gary gasps) 1081 01:15:14,032 --> 01:15:16,701 (air whooshing) 1082 01:15:24,084 --> 01:15:27,546 - [Gal] From what you do see from the person in the video, 1083 01:15:27,546 --> 01:15:31,174 you can tell that they have a lot of physical deformities. 1084 01:15:31,174 --> 01:15:34,052 And it's probably one of the main reasons 1085 01:15:34,052 --> 01:15:38,932 why they chose to live where they lived, 1086 01:15:38,932 --> 01:15:42,227 they felt shunned by society. 1087 01:15:45,063 --> 01:15:48,566 - [Simon] When we found out what actually happened, 1088 01:15:51,069 --> 01:15:53,363 it was like this weight 1089 01:15:53,363 --> 01:15:57,784 had been taken off of Beverly and I's relationship. 1090 01:15:57,784 --> 01:16:02,080 And now we're actually really close. 1091 01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,000 And I actually consider her kind of a big sister. 1092 01:16:06,710 --> 01:16:08,712 (sentimental music) 1093 01:16:17,429 --> 01:16:18,263 (stones crunching) 1094 01:16:18,263 --> 01:16:22,434 - [Gary] I'm just hiking along, almost to the top. 1095 01:16:24,394 --> 01:16:25,812 Over that mountain side. 1096 01:16:29,357 --> 01:16:31,860 Still some thunder in the distance. 1097 01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:34,321 (ground crunching) 1098 01:16:34,321 --> 01:16:36,197 Amazing how far you can hike 1099 01:16:36,197 --> 01:16:39,534 and only seeing a couple of deer, 1100 01:16:39,534 --> 01:16:42,620 how much wildlife that I've seen, 1101 01:16:42,620 --> 01:16:45,165 I'm sure they see me, stay hidden. 1102 01:16:47,709 --> 01:16:52,714 But just a lot of sagebrush and trees and peaceful desert, 1103 01:16:56,635 --> 01:16:58,219 to walk. 1104 01:16:58,219 --> 01:17:01,931 The great thing about Nevada, wide open spaces. 1105 01:17:05,352 --> 01:17:08,563 - Everybody immediately wants to go and search 1106 01:17:08,563 --> 01:17:09,397 for the one thing 1107 01:17:09,397 --> 01:17:12,525 that they've been told not to go search for. 1108 01:17:12,525 --> 01:17:15,945 And so now there's this whole band of influencers 1109 01:17:15,945 --> 01:17:20,950 who are out there wanting to find this person 1110 01:17:22,994 --> 01:17:25,497 and post about it and blog about it 1111 01:17:25,497 --> 01:17:27,874 and make a video about it. 1112 01:17:27,874 --> 01:17:28,667 And, 1113 01:17:31,002 --> 01:17:32,128 to me that's, 1114 01:17:34,089 --> 01:17:35,590 I mean, that's terrifying. 1115 01:17:38,343 --> 01:17:40,345 (ominous music)