1 00:00:01,369 --> 00:00:02,827 MIA FARROW: I didn't know the doctor had to report this. 2 00:00:02,911 --> 00:00:04,535 I went just to be sure she was all right, 3 00:00:04,619 --> 00:00:06,285 and she's not all right, Woody! 4 00:00:07,661 --> 00:00:09,118 FRANK MACO: I received a complaint 5 00:00:09,202 --> 00:00:12,035 about alleged sexual abuse on one Woody Allen. 6 00:00:12,285 --> 00:00:14,285 SPEAKER 2: Woody gave a press conference, 7 00:00:14,369 --> 00:00:15,993 and our jaws dropped. 8 00:00:16,202 --> 00:00:19,327 He's turned it all back and focused on his relationship 9 00:00:19,410 --> 00:00:20,202 with Soon-Yi. 10 00:00:20,410 --> 00:00:21,494 SPEAKER 2: This is a woman scorned. 11 00:00:21,577 --> 00:00:22,619 This is a unhinged woman. 12 00:00:22,869 --> 00:00:25,077 That's Woody's narrative. He's trying to distract. 13 00:00:25,452 --> 00:00:27,952 MIA: You brought charges against me as an unfit mother. 14 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,535 WOODY ALLEN: And I'm gonna make them stick. 15 00:00:29,619 --> 00:00:31,327 SPEAKER 3: There was no sense that the motivation 16 00:00:31,410 --> 00:00:32,993 was his deep love for these children. 17 00:00:33,202 --> 00:00:36,118 Every little idiosyncrasy was used against me. 18 00:00:36,202 --> 00:00:37,369 SPEAKER 4: Everybody wanted to know 19 00:00:37,452 --> 00:00:39,035 how this was going to end. 20 00:00:39,118 --> 00:00:41,452 MACO: I was confident there was probable cause, 21 00:00:41,535 --> 00:00:43,702 but this case hinged on the testimony 22 00:00:43,786 --> 00:00:45,160 of a seven-year-old girl. 23 00:01:00,035 --> 00:01:02,869 ♪ ♪ 24 00:01:02,952 --> 00:01:05,202 -(shutters snapping) -(reporters chattering) 25 00:01:05,285 --> 00:01:08,661 At this time, I'd like to read a written decision. 26 00:01:12,369 --> 00:01:16,410 This decision addresses certain sexual assault allegations 27 00:01:16,494 --> 00:01:19,744 surrounding events in Bridgewater, Connecticut, 28 00:01:19,827 --> 00:01:24,077 on August 4th, 1992, involving Mr. Woody Allen. 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,452 I consider the state police investigation 30 00:01:26,535 --> 00:01:28,744 to be thorough and complete, 31 00:01:28,827 --> 00:01:31,702 and I commend the investigator for their efforts 32 00:01:31,786 --> 00:01:35,494 performed in an atmosphere that was anything but conducive 33 00:01:35,577 --> 00:01:38,744 to a smooth-running investigation. 34 00:01:38,827 --> 00:01:40,619 As to the allegations contained 35 00:01:40,702 --> 00:01:44,327 in the submitted arrest warrant application, 36 00:01:44,410 --> 00:01:47,827 I find that probable cause exists. 37 00:01:49,452 --> 00:01:52,911 (current day): The option was clear-- Have Allen arrested, 38 00:01:52,993 --> 00:01:54,452 go to trial ultimately, 39 00:01:54,535 --> 00:01:58,827 and then put the child on the stand as my first witness. 40 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:03,744 But my concern was the further traumatization of the child. 41 00:02:03,827 --> 00:02:05,786 She had already been through so much. 42 00:02:05,869 --> 00:02:10,869 Was it truly in her best interest to put her on the stand? 43 00:02:13,077 --> 00:02:16,077 ♪ ♪ 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,202 Reporter 1: This is a story of two of the biggest stars in the world. 45 00:02:19,285 --> 00:02:22,452 Reporter 2: The father is Woody Allen-- writer, director, actor. 46 00:02:22,535 --> 00:02:25,410 The mother is Mia Farrow, his frequent costar 47 00:02:25,494 --> 00:02:28,869 and the mother of his three children, two of them adopted. 48 00:02:30,911 --> 00:02:33,118 Reporter 3: Woody and Mia have been together for 12 years, 49 00:02:33,202 --> 00:02:36,243 but never married and kept separate residences. 50 00:02:36,327 --> 00:02:38,410 ♪ ♪ 51 00:02:42,577 --> 00:02:44,577 Reporter 4: She reportedly has a video 52 00:02:44,661 --> 00:02:45,869 of their adopted daughter Dylan 53 00:02:45,952 --> 00:02:48,744 explaining how Allen molested her. 54 00:02:50,577 --> 00:02:53,243 Allen denies child abuse, but freely admits 55 00:02:53,327 --> 00:02:55,993 he's in love with another of Farrow's daughters, 56 00:02:56,077 --> 00:02:58,243 21-year-old Soon-Yi. 57 00:03:00,410 --> 00:03:02,619 Reporter 5: Allen said the newest allegations are 58 00:03:02,702 --> 00:03:05,911 the bizarre concoctions of a woman scorned. 59 00:03:07,911 --> 00:03:10,827 Woman: Ms. Farrow's only concern has been exclusively 60 00:03:10,911 --> 00:03:12,827 the protection of her children. 61 00:03:12,911 --> 00:03:15,035 ♪ ♪ 62 00:03:29,118 --> 00:03:32,243 ♪ ♪ 63 00:03:36,035 --> 00:03:38,285 Frank Maco: I met with Dylan Farrow 64 00:03:38,369 --> 00:03:41,869 in early September of 1993, 65 00:03:41,952 --> 00:03:45,160 in what we considered to be a child-friendly atmosphere. 66 00:03:47,786 --> 00:03:50,952 In my office, we had stuffed animal toys 67 00:03:51,035 --> 00:03:52,702 strewn around the library. 68 00:03:52,786 --> 00:03:56,285 The child was also there with a female state trooper 69 00:03:56,369 --> 00:04:00,993 that she had a fairly good relationship with. 70 00:04:01,077 --> 00:04:04,452 I'm on the floor with Dylan, playing with the toys. 71 00:04:04,535 --> 00:04:07,952 I'm telling her about my son. 72 00:04:08,035 --> 00:04:11,285 After some time, I start questioning her 73 00:04:11,369 --> 00:04:15,369 about her relationship with what I called "Daddy Woody." 74 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,077 She was totally unresponsive. 75 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,911 You could see a glazed look over her eyes. 76 00:04:23,993 --> 00:04:27,869 I said, "Tell me what-what-what, about Daddy Woody." 77 00:04:27,952 --> 00:04:29,661 Nothing. Nothing at all. 78 00:04:29,744 --> 00:04:32,327 Complete freezing at that point. 79 00:04:32,410 --> 00:04:34,619 ♪ ♪ 80 00:04:34,702 --> 00:04:37,744 The strongest proponents for prosecution just looked at me, 81 00:04:37,827 --> 00:04:39,744 and we all shrugged our shoulders. 82 00:04:39,827 --> 00:04:42,494 We weren't going anywhere with this child. 83 00:04:43,827 --> 00:04:45,744 (at press conference): I found probable cause. 84 00:04:45,827 --> 00:04:48,661 Yet despite meeting that standard, 85 00:04:48,744 --> 00:04:51,619 and because of the risk of exposing a child complainant 86 00:04:51,702 --> 00:04:54,118 to the rigors, uncertainties, 87 00:04:54,202 --> 00:04:57,327 and possible traumatization of such actions, 88 00:04:57,410 --> 00:05:00,535 accordingly, I am announcing my decision 89 00:05:00,619 --> 00:05:02,827 not to initiate a prosecution. 90 00:05:02,911 --> 00:05:05,452 (current day): The case, for all practical purposes, 91 00:05:05,535 --> 00:05:07,035 ended with my decision, 92 00:05:08,118 --> 00:05:10,410 September of '93. 93 00:05:10,494 --> 00:05:12,952 Reporter: Prosecutor says he will always be available 94 00:05:13,035 --> 00:05:14,285 to Dylan as she grows up 95 00:05:14,369 --> 00:05:17,952 to explain what happened and why he did not press charges. 96 00:05:18,035 --> 00:05:19,911 But one day, Dylan may certainly wonder 97 00:05:19,993 --> 00:05:22,035 if authorities made the right decision 98 00:05:22,118 --> 00:05:24,410 by excusing Woody's alleged behavior 99 00:05:24,494 --> 00:05:27,202 to spare her a public trial. 100 00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:29,494 ♪ ♪ 101 00:05:29,577 --> 00:05:31,410 Mia Farrow: I did not want more of this. 102 00:05:31,494 --> 00:05:35,577 I didn't want more press, more courts. 103 00:05:35,661 --> 00:05:37,619 I was just glad to have my children. 104 00:05:37,702 --> 00:05:40,077 I just wanted nothing more. 105 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,744 No punishment of Woody would be worth punishing Dylan. 106 00:05:44,827 --> 00:05:48,077 We just needed it to be peaceful again. 107 00:05:49,911 --> 00:05:51,535 (reporters chattering) 108 00:05:51,619 --> 00:05:52,535 -Here? -Woman: Yes. 109 00:05:52,619 --> 00:05:54,160 Is there-- is there a light? 110 00:05:54,243 --> 00:05:56,619 -(chatter continues) -Woody Allen: Okay. 111 00:05:58,744 --> 00:06:00,285 Well, here I go. 112 00:06:01,202 --> 00:06:02,577 While... 113 00:06:05,369 --> 00:06:08,285 While one might think that 114 00:06:08,369 --> 00:06:11,369 I would be happy or grateful 115 00:06:11,452 --> 00:06:14,702 over the decision to drop the investigation 116 00:06:14,786 --> 00:06:17,535 by the Connecticut authorities, 117 00:06:17,619 --> 00:06:20,744 I am merely disgusted 118 00:06:20,827 --> 00:06:24,952 that my children have been made to suffer unbearably 119 00:06:25,035 --> 00:06:29,202 by the unwholesome alliance between a vindictive mother 120 00:06:29,285 --> 00:06:31,993 and a cowardly, dishonest, irresponsible 121 00:06:32,077 --> 00:06:35,327 state's attorney and his police. 122 00:06:35,410 --> 00:06:38,786 I want to send this message to my little girl. 123 00:06:38,869 --> 00:06:42,661 Don't worry. The dark forces will not prevail. 124 00:06:45,285 --> 00:06:48,577 -(children chattering) -(birds chirping) 125 00:06:51,869 --> 00:06:56,452 Dylan Farrow: After the whole custody trial... 126 00:06:56,535 --> 00:06:59,661 my mom stopped having to go to court all the time, 127 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:04,494 and we moved away from the city. 128 00:07:05,619 --> 00:07:07,452 -(splash) -Mia: Woo! 129 00:07:07,535 --> 00:07:09,494 That was great! 130 00:07:09,577 --> 00:07:11,118 -It was? -Mia: Yes! 131 00:07:11,202 --> 00:07:13,577 -Woman: Hey, come and do your handstand! -Wait, Mama, 132 00:07:13,661 --> 00:07:15,410 -I want you to see something. -Mia: Okay. 133 00:07:15,494 --> 00:07:18,077 Dylan: And there was sort of a grace period 134 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,744 where I thought, "Okay. 135 00:07:19,827 --> 00:07:21,911 This is great. I can start over." 136 00:07:21,993 --> 00:07:24,285 (inaudible) 137 00:07:24,369 --> 00:07:28,285 We never talked about Soon-Yi or Woody. 138 00:07:28,369 --> 00:07:30,744 ♪ ♪ 139 00:07:30,827 --> 00:07:34,577 But, there was a long period of guilt for me. 140 00:07:38,369 --> 00:07:41,118 I felt like I had 141 00:07:41,202 --> 00:07:43,577 caused a rift in my family. 142 00:07:45,035 --> 00:07:50,118 I felt if I just, you know, kept, kept his secret that 143 00:07:50,202 --> 00:07:53,952 I could've spared my mom all this grief 144 00:07:54,035 --> 00:07:57,035 and my brothers and sisters, myself. 145 00:07:58,577 --> 00:08:00,535 I mean, 146 00:08:00,619 --> 00:08:03,744 none of my older siblings were ever the same. 147 00:08:05,869 --> 00:08:08,952 Mia: How you feeling, Daisy? 148 00:08:09,035 --> 00:08:12,160 Daisy Previn: I just remember my family was turned upside down. 149 00:08:13,035 --> 00:08:15,077 We were all devastated. 150 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,285 It was a sad time. 151 00:08:18,619 --> 00:08:20,786 I think most of us tried to just kinda 152 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:23,369 get through with our lives. 153 00:08:23,452 --> 00:08:26,494 Mia: Kids! Fletcher is leaving for college! 154 00:08:26,577 --> 00:08:28,993 Come say good-bye! 155 00:08:29,077 --> 00:08:30,993 Fletcher Previn: We were a tight family unit, 156 00:08:31,077 --> 00:08:32,577 and, um... 157 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,160 uh... 158 00:08:35,243 --> 00:08:38,327 that was much less so the case after this. 159 00:08:38,410 --> 00:08:41,619 People went into survival mode. 160 00:08:41,702 --> 00:08:44,035 It was just a really difficult time for everybody. 161 00:08:44,744 --> 00:08:46,786 Especially Dylan. 162 00:08:48,452 --> 00:08:50,952 Mia: Well, Santa didn't forget you, did he? 163 00:08:51,035 --> 00:08:52,911 -Nope! -Child: We used to have one of these. 164 00:08:52,993 --> 00:08:56,327 Quincy Farrow: When she was growing up, she was sullen 165 00:08:56,410 --> 00:09:00,327 and anxiety-riddled, like, riddled with anxiety. 166 00:09:00,410 --> 00:09:03,369 I mean, I was younger, but even then, 167 00:09:03,452 --> 00:09:07,035 the signs of her being depressed were obvious. 168 00:09:07,118 --> 00:09:08,702 What are you doing with that? 169 00:09:08,786 --> 00:09:10,827 Mia: Taking your picture. 170 00:09:10,911 --> 00:09:12,535 Minh Turnbull: She was always hidden away, 171 00:09:12,619 --> 00:09:15,993 writing her stories or she was drawing and... 172 00:09:16,077 --> 00:09:19,911 She kept to herself a lot. 173 00:09:19,993 --> 00:09:22,077 So I didn't feel the right to ask 174 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,452 or I didn't think it was my place, so... 175 00:09:26,911 --> 00:09:28,535 The only reason I even knew 176 00:09:28,619 --> 00:09:31,327 about anything that had happened is from 177 00:09:31,410 --> 00:09:34,702 the news and media and that's it. 178 00:09:34,786 --> 00:09:37,869 And it was kind of like a Voldemort situation. 179 00:09:37,993 --> 00:09:40,035 "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" situation. 180 00:09:40,118 --> 00:09:41,369 He was never brought up. 181 00:09:43,035 --> 00:09:45,118 Dylan: Growing up, I never spoke about it 182 00:09:45,202 --> 00:09:47,952 with any of my siblings. 183 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,535 None of them asked. 184 00:09:53,619 --> 00:09:56,577 ♪ ♪ 185 00:09:56,661 --> 00:09:59,744 You know, they all went through their own gauntlet 186 00:09:59,827 --> 00:10:02,243 of emotions over this. 187 00:10:02,327 --> 00:10:04,577 (indistinct chatter) 188 00:10:04,661 --> 00:10:06,619 Mia and children: Is she 7? Is she 8? 189 00:10:06,702 --> 00:10:08,869 Is she 9? Is she 10? 190 00:10:08,952 --> 00:10:12,243 Is she 11? Is she 12? Is she 13? 191 00:10:12,327 --> 00:10:15,202 Is she 14? Yay, 14! 192 00:10:15,285 --> 00:10:17,869 (clapping) 193 00:10:17,952 --> 00:10:20,077 Dylan: I spent a lot 194 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,327 of high school feeling like 195 00:10:23,410 --> 00:10:26,702 there was something fundamentally wrong with me. 196 00:10:26,786 --> 00:10:28,535 (blowing) 197 00:10:28,619 --> 00:10:31,035 I felt like I was the only person 198 00:10:31,118 --> 00:10:32,993 that this had ever happened to. 199 00:10:34,619 --> 00:10:37,327 I was completely isolated. 200 00:10:38,619 --> 00:10:42,327 You know, I was hiding a part of myself that... 201 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:48,160 um, I really should've been honest about. 202 00:10:48,243 --> 00:10:51,494 I could've had healthier relationships 203 00:10:51,577 --> 00:10:54,202 with friends, with men, 204 00:10:54,285 --> 00:10:57,285 with my siblings. 205 00:10:57,369 --> 00:11:00,577 I didn't even speak about it in any depth with my mom. 206 00:11:02,077 --> 00:11:04,118 Even with my therapist. 207 00:11:04,202 --> 00:11:06,327 ♪ ♪ 208 00:11:06,410 --> 00:11:09,827 I had literally one boyfriend 209 00:11:09,911 --> 00:11:11,160 in high school, 210 00:11:11,243 --> 00:11:14,410 and that lasted three weeks. 211 00:11:15,993 --> 00:11:18,661 I just remember listening to some of the other girls 212 00:11:18,744 --> 00:11:20,327 in my class talk about the things 213 00:11:20,410 --> 00:11:23,369 they were doing with boys, and thinking, 214 00:11:23,452 --> 00:11:25,911 "Oh my god. At some point... 215 00:11:27,118 --> 00:11:29,077 he's gonna want this." 216 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,744 And that was terrifying. 217 00:11:33,911 --> 00:11:35,202 So I broke up with him. 218 00:11:35,285 --> 00:11:38,494 And it was a relationship I wanted. 219 00:11:38,577 --> 00:11:41,993 -(laughs) Yes. -Mia: Breaking up with a certain person? 220 00:11:42,077 --> 00:11:45,118 -Is that what you were doing? -Yes. 221 00:11:45,202 --> 00:11:47,118 Mia: So how do you feel? 222 00:11:47,202 --> 00:11:49,827 -Very liberated. -Mia: Good for you. 223 00:11:49,911 --> 00:11:53,661 -Yeah. I feel kind of bad for him though. -Mia: Aw. 224 00:11:54,494 --> 00:11:56,452 What made you do it? 225 00:11:56,535 --> 00:11:59,619 I just needed more space, more time. 226 00:12:00,869 --> 00:12:02,702 Mia: So what's the next plan? 227 00:12:02,786 --> 00:12:04,410 What are your priorities? 228 00:12:16,827 --> 00:12:19,160 Michael Parkinson: Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Woody Allen. 229 00:12:19,243 --> 00:12:22,202 -(applause) -(music playing) 230 00:12:22,285 --> 00:12:24,452 (crowd cheering) 231 00:12:29,827 --> 00:12:32,993 (cheering continues) 232 00:12:34,035 --> 00:12:35,661 (music ends) 233 00:12:38,494 --> 00:12:40,369 -(applause continues) -Thank you. 234 00:12:40,452 --> 00:12:42,035 (coughs) 235 00:12:42,118 --> 00:12:44,786 Could I ask you about the crisis 236 00:12:44,869 --> 00:12:48,661 that you had recently in your life regarding your wife Soon-Yi 237 00:12:48,744 --> 00:12:51,911 and all the surrounding stories that were about that? 238 00:12:51,993 --> 00:12:56,452 Did that have an effect on your perception within America? 239 00:12:56,535 --> 00:12:58,202 I mean, did it make you less popular? 240 00:12:58,285 --> 00:13:00,410 Did it have an effect on your work? Did it affect your mood? 241 00:13:00,494 --> 00:13:02,577 No, it was an interesting thing. Um... 242 00:13:02,661 --> 00:13:05,786 I had always been unpopular. 243 00:13:05,869 --> 00:13:08,786 -(laughter) -And... 244 00:13:08,869 --> 00:13:12,202 when I was going through public, uh... 245 00:13:12,285 --> 00:13:15,410 talk about my life, my private life, 246 00:13:15,494 --> 00:13:19,327 all it did, those people that had never liked me 247 00:13:19,410 --> 00:13:20,952 reconfirmed it. They said, 248 00:13:21,035 --> 00:13:23,993 "I always knew he was a terrible little cockroach 249 00:13:24,077 --> 00:13:26,744 -and this proves it." -(laughter) 250 00:13:26,827 --> 00:13:30,285 Those people that like me continue to like me. 251 00:13:30,369 --> 00:13:32,619 You know, it was of no consequence. 252 00:13:32,702 --> 00:13:33,786 ♪ ♪ 253 00:13:33,869 --> 00:13:35,786 Woody: Apart from not going out in public 254 00:13:35,869 --> 00:13:37,535 without a fake nose and glasses, 255 00:13:37,619 --> 00:13:41,202 I simply went about my business and worked. 256 00:13:43,202 --> 00:13:46,077 Being innocent, I felt it's not my problem. 257 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,577 Let them carry on. 258 00:13:47,661 --> 00:13:50,077 I'm not gonna sacrifice precious work time 259 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,160 over a bad call. 260 00:13:52,243 --> 00:13:55,494 Their high-profile affair stunned the public 261 00:13:55,577 --> 00:13:57,661 and became grist for the tabloids. 262 00:13:57,744 --> 00:14:00,744 Now, actor and film director Woody Allen 263 00:14:00,827 --> 00:14:04,160 and his long-time girlfriend Soon-Yi Previn 264 00:14:04,243 --> 00:14:05,786 are husband and wife. 265 00:14:05,869 --> 00:14:09,535 The 62-year-old Allen and 27-year-old Previn 266 00:14:09,619 --> 00:14:10,786 were married Tuesday 267 00:14:10,869 --> 00:14:13,494 at a small, secret wedding in Venice, Italy. 268 00:14:13,577 --> 00:14:17,494 -(Soon-Yi laughing) -Woody: Yes, you're right. It's me. 269 00:14:17,577 --> 00:14:20,118 It's me. You've seen me in those films. I'm the guy. 270 00:14:20,202 --> 00:14:22,077 -(laughing) -(chatter, clapping) 271 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,160 -Woody: Hi, fellas. Don't get too excited. -(cheering) 272 00:14:24,243 --> 00:14:26,952 -I come here a few times a year. -(shutters snapping) 273 00:14:31,327 --> 00:14:34,452 (birds chirping) 274 00:14:37,285 --> 00:14:41,077 (Amy Ziering speaking) 275 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,952 -Mm-hmm. I did, um, but... -Yes. 276 00:14:45,035 --> 00:14:47,786 I never brought them home because... 277 00:14:48,786 --> 00:14:50,285 I just... 278 00:14:51,619 --> 00:14:54,285 didn't wanna risk anybody 279 00:14:54,369 --> 00:14:57,494 falling for one of my beautiful children or grandchildren. 280 00:14:57,577 --> 00:15:01,202 If I couldn't trust Woody after 12 years, 281 00:15:01,285 --> 00:15:02,452 how would I... 282 00:15:02,535 --> 00:15:06,035 I would never take another risk with anybody else. 283 00:15:06,118 --> 00:15:09,369 I don't know. I don't trust myself to know. 284 00:15:09,452 --> 00:15:11,410 How would you know? 285 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:14,619 I don't know. So I never brought them home. 286 00:15:14,702 --> 00:15:17,827 ♪ ♪ 287 00:15:17,911 --> 00:15:20,410 Mia: Want the box open, honey? 288 00:15:20,494 --> 00:15:23,327 Wow, his front tooth. 289 00:15:23,410 --> 00:15:25,911 He lost it. What do you have to say about it? 290 00:15:25,993 --> 00:15:29,243 -How does it feel? -Great! 291 00:15:29,327 --> 00:15:31,202 Ronan Farrow: My mother did such a good job 292 00:15:31,285 --> 00:15:32,786 of shielding us from all of this. 293 00:15:32,869 --> 00:15:35,952 She went above and beyond to never say 294 00:15:36,035 --> 00:15:39,577 anything that would be construed as critical of my father 295 00:15:39,661 --> 00:15:42,202 or pushing us to think or say one thing or another. 296 00:15:42,285 --> 00:15:47,369 She really just tried to distance us and shield us. 297 00:15:47,452 --> 00:15:49,786 But, for all of us growing up, 298 00:15:49,869 --> 00:15:51,952 there was always a lot of incentive 299 00:15:52,035 --> 00:15:54,786 to be drawn into Woody Allen's efforts 300 00:15:54,869 --> 00:15:58,160 to discredit my sister. 301 00:15:58,243 --> 00:16:02,077 For example, he made funding my college education 302 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,327 contingent on me 303 00:16:04,410 --> 00:16:07,410 speaking out in his support publicly. 304 00:16:07,494 --> 00:16:10,452 The offer always stood that if I were willing to publicly 305 00:16:10,535 --> 00:16:12,744 go against my mother and my sister, 306 00:16:12,827 --> 00:16:15,327 that he would offer financial support, 307 00:16:15,410 --> 00:16:16,952 support for my education, 308 00:16:17,035 --> 00:16:19,786 and perhaps, you know, a comfortable life 309 00:16:19,869 --> 00:16:24,035 with a powerful, influential guy. 310 00:16:25,869 --> 00:16:28,035 Fletcher: I think it was hugely derailing 311 00:16:28,118 --> 00:16:29,327 for my mom, 312 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:31,869 personally and professionally. 313 00:16:31,952 --> 00:16:34,619 I think it's pretty devastating if you build a life with somebody 314 00:16:34,702 --> 00:16:36,369 and have a large family, and then, 315 00:16:36,452 --> 00:16:39,702 turns out that everything you thought was true was not true. 316 00:16:39,786 --> 00:16:41,702 ♪ ♪ 317 00:16:41,786 --> 00:16:44,869 Mia: Nobody really wanted to hire me except in other countries. 318 00:16:44,952 --> 00:16:47,285 I think slightly this way, yeah. 319 00:16:47,369 --> 00:16:48,827 Mia: I got offered movies 320 00:16:48,911 --> 00:16:51,410 in Ireland and in France. 321 00:16:51,494 --> 00:16:53,661 So I took every job I could. 322 00:16:53,744 --> 00:16:56,410 Woody told me I would never work again in this country. 323 00:16:56,494 --> 00:16:58,619 I didn't know-- Yeah. He said, 324 00:16:58,702 --> 00:17:02,118 "No one will ever hire you again." 325 00:17:02,202 --> 00:17:05,661 But then, UNICEF invited me to come on board with them 326 00:17:05,744 --> 00:17:07,410 on the issue of polio. 327 00:17:07,494 --> 00:17:10,827 Mia (on video): Polio eradication means a lot to me personally. 328 00:17:10,911 --> 00:17:14,577 I was afflicted with polio as a child. 329 00:17:14,661 --> 00:17:16,744 And then, they made me an ambassador, 330 00:17:16,827 --> 00:17:18,243 and then I said I wanna go to Darfur 331 00:17:18,327 --> 00:17:20,577 because there was a genocide unfolding there. 332 00:17:20,661 --> 00:17:23,744 If you can leave people with one image of what you want people to know, 333 00:17:23,827 --> 00:17:25,744 -what would that be? -Two and a half million people 334 00:17:25,827 --> 00:17:27,786 have been driven out of their villages 335 00:17:27,869 --> 00:17:30,911 and are forced to live amidst deplorable conditions 336 00:17:30,993 --> 00:17:32,827 in these refugee camps. 337 00:17:32,911 --> 00:17:35,535 It was just deeply meaningful work. 338 00:17:35,619 --> 00:17:37,952 And that became completely consuming. 339 00:17:38,035 --> 00:17:41,160 (crowd cheering) 340 00:17:42,494 --> 00:17:46,243 We need the political will to act now. 341 00:17:46,327 --> 00:17:51,202 We need moral leadership to act now. 342 00:17:51,285 --> 00:17:54,535 Announcer: Live from the Kodak Theater at Hollywood and Highland... 343 00:17:54,619 --> 00:17:55,869 (applause) 344 00:17:55,952 --> 00:17:59,035 Welcome to the 74th Annual Academy Awards. 345 00:17:59,118 --> 00:18:02,160 -(crowd cheering) -(music playing) 346 00:18:09,993 --> 00:18:11,661 (cheering continues) 347 00:18:12,786 --> 00:18:15,911 Let me tell you why I'm here exactly. 348 00:18:15,993 --> 00:18:18,369 About four weeks ago, 349 00:18:18,452 --> 00:18:21,452 I was sitting home in my apartment in New York, 350 00:18:21,535 --> 00:18:25,452 and the phone rang, and a voice on the other end said, 351 00:18:25,535 --> 00:18:29,160 "This is the Motion Picture Academy of Arts and Sciences." 352 00:18:29,243 --> 00:18:32,160 And I panicked immediately 353 00:18:32,243 --> 00:18:36,035 because I thought that they wanted their Oscars back. 354 00:18:36,118 --> 00:18:38,535 -(laughter) -Charlie Rose: Tell me why we're all 355 00:18:38,619 --> 00:18:40,452 so fascinated by Woody Allen. 356 00:18:40,535 --> 00:18:43,619 Is it just talent or is it something else? 357 00:18:43,702 --> 00:18:45,369 -Good writing, good directing. -Right. 358 00:18:45,452 --> 00:18:48,452 -You usually get a really good movie at the end of it. -Yeah. 359 00:18:48,535 --> 00:18:51,118 -He has a mystique to him, you know? -Right. 360 00:18:51,202 --> 00:18:53,118 And actors love him because he trusts them. 361 00:18:53,202 --> 00:18:55,911 -(applause) -I'm in debt 362 00:18:55,993 --> 00:18:58,035 to my loyal friend 363 00:18:58,118 --> 00:19:00,911 and, uh, remarkable artist, Woody Allen. 364 00:19:00,993 --> 00:19:04,118 Thank you for having written over all these years 365 00:19:04,202 --> 00:19:07,619 some of the greatest characters for women. 366 00:19:07,702 --> 00:19:10,619 For any actor, it's always an extraordinary experience 367 00:19:10,702 --> 00:19:14,077 to have the chance to work those dialogues. 368 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,786 I feel very lucky to be sitting on this couch 369 00:19:17,869 --> 00:19:21,619 with, with a, a proven genius. 370 00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:25,327 Claire Dederer: We have this idea of the genius, 371 00:19:25,410 --> 00:19:28,160 the artist, the doer, the person who's making things happen 372 00:19:28,243 --> 00:19:30,077 and they're controlling the narrative, 373 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,035 and we wanna align with that and we wanna believe in it. 374 00:19:33,118 --> 00:19:35,410 We wanna identify with these characters. 375 00:19:35,494 --> 00:19:39,535 We spend our lives listening to their side of the story. 376 00:19:39,619 --> 00:19:43,661 We wanna be next to power. We wanna be next to the winner. 377 00:19:43,744 --> 00:19:45,744 PJ Grisar: Woody Allen is someone who 378 00:19:45,827 --> 00:19:49,035 we accept as kind of this philosopher. 379 00:19:49,118 --> 00:19:51,410 And if we hear anything troubling about a person 380 00:19:51,494 --> 00:19:53,702 that sort of might've, uh, 381 00:19:53,786 --> 00:19:55,869 informed our values at all, 382 00:19:55,952 --> 00:19:57,494 we're not gonna wanna believe it. 383 00:19:57,577 --> 00:19:59,911 I think so much of this is about our willingness 384 00:19:59,993 --> 00:20:04,369 to not know the things so that we don't have to deal with it. 385 00:20:04,452 --> 00:20:07,285 When you're forced to see, when you're forced to know... 386 00:20:08,786 --> 00:20:10,577 it's so dispiriting. 387 00:20:10,661 --> 00:20:12,869 It's so hopeless. It's so uncomfortable. 388 00:20:12,952 --> 00:20:15,243 It's just easier, right? 389 00:20:15,327 --> 00:20:17,702 To opt out and to go back. 390 00:20:17,786 --> 00:20:19,452 -What? -The movie, your movie? 391 00:20:19,535 --> 00:20:21,869 The French have seen your movie in Paris, 392 00:20:21,952 --> 00:20:25,661 and they say it's the greatest American film in 50 years! 393 00:20:25,744 --> 00:20:27,327 -You're kidding. -No, no, no! 394 00:20:27,410 --> 00:20:29,327 You're being hailed as a true artist! 395 00:20:29,410 --> 00:20:32,077 There's an additional layer of distortion 396 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,035 when this kind of an allegation is raised against someone who is 397 00:20:35,118 --> 00:20:38,035 not just beloved in a traditional sense, 398 00:20:38,118 --> 00:20:39,993 but beloved in a way where people 399 00:20:40,077 --> 00:20:42,369 have an identity association with it. 400 00:20:42,452 --> 00:20:46,077 Where it's existential to them that they grew up loving Woody Allen. 401 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,911 You see it with a lot of fans of individuals who are accused 402 00:20:49,993 --> 00:20:52,410 of terrible and serious things in a credible way. 403 00:20:52,494 --> 00:20:55,035 About two hours ago, Michael Jackson was arrested 404 00:20:55,118 --> 00:20:56,744 on child molestation charges. 405 00:20:56,827 --> 00:20:59,993 I think it's just all fabricated. It's lies. 406 00:21:00,077 --> 00:21:02,410 It makes me cross, makes me very angry. 407 00:21:02,494 --> 00:21:03,744 There have been a lot of people that, 408 00:21:03,827 --> 00:21:05,327 once they do research and they look into 409 00:21:05,410 --> 00:21:06,744 what the truth really was, 410 00:21:06,827 --> 00:21:09,327 they finally understand what happened to Michael Jackson. 411 00:21:09,410 --> 00:21:12,243 Anna Salter: I think the public has a great deal of trouble 412 00:21:12,327 --> 00:21:16,118 believing that someone they like 413 00:21:16,202 --> 00:21:17,452 could be a sex offender. 414 00:21:17,535 --> 00:21:20,827 The public is very harsh towards sex offenders, 415 00:21:20,911 --> 00:21:24,535 as long as they are over there and unlikable. 416 00:21:24,619 --> 00:21:26,535 Bill Cosby was my boyhood mentor. 417 00:21:26,619 --> 00:21:28,661 -There was no one bigger. -Woman: Mm-hmm. 418 00:21:28,744 --> 00:21:31,285 Wendy Williams: Over a dozen women have come forward, 419 00:21:31,369 --> 00:21:33,577 alleging that they've been raped by the legendary comic. 420 00:21:33,661 --> 00:21:35,827 Craig Melvin: So watching this play out over the last few years, 421 00:21:35,911 --> 00:21:38,952 -for a lot of folks, it's very, very difficult. -Woman: Mm-hmm. 422 00:21:39,035 --> 00:21:42,494 Anna: The kind of attachment that people get to celebrities, 423 00:21:42,577 --> 00:21:46,619 it's a little like the attachment they have to a family member, 424 00:21:46,702 --> 00:21:48,452 just projected on someone that 425 00:21:48,535 --> 00:21:50,786 they've never actually spoken to. 426 00:21:50,869 --> 00:21:52,577 Reporter: Roman Polanski became famous 427 00:21:52,661 --> 00:21:55,243 as the director of such classics as "Chinatown." 428 00:21:55,327 --> 00:21:57,619 He has been infamous for having sex 429 00:21:57,702 --> 00:21:58,869 with a 13-year-old girl. 430 00:21:58,952 --> 00:22:03,410 People get very invested in that person's persona, 431 00:22:03,494 --> 00:22:05,494 and they trust them. 432 00:22:05,577 --> 00:22:08,494 People don't give up trust easily. 433 00:22:08,577 --> 00:22:10,911 Howard Stern: This director who raped a 13-year-old. 434 00:22:10,993 --> 00:22:12,619 Quentin Tarantino: He didn't rape a 13-year-old. 435 00:22:12,702 --> 00:22:14,661 -It was statutory rape, alright? -Howard: Alright. 436 00:22:14,744 --> 00:22:17,035 Robin Quivers: Well so, why do you side with him? 437 00:22:17,118 --> 00:22:20,369 Quentin: Because I-- his version sounds more likely. 438 00:22:20,452 --> 00:22:23,911 ♪ ♪ 439 00:22:23,993 --> 00:22:26,786 She wasn't unschooled in sexual matters. 440 00:22:27,827 --> 00:22:30,702 She was consenting and willing. 441 00:22:30,786 --> 00:22:32,577 So then, you have sex against your will. 442 00:22:32,661 --> 00:22:36,077 -This is not consensual. -This is not consensual. I was, "No, no." 443 00:22:37,452 --> 00:22:39,410 Anna: If you are powerful, 444 00:22:39,494 --> 00:22:42,118 celebrities, rich men, 445 00:22:42,202 --> 00:22:45,327 people are more likely to believe your denials. 446 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:49,035 You are nearly impossible to prosecute. 447 00:22:49,118 --> 00:22:51,410 Interviewer: But what's the position now 448 00:22:51,494 --> 00:22:53,744 with regard to, to your children? 449 00:22:53,827 --> 00:22:55,494 Woody: I'm still-- I still don't 450 00:22:55,577 --> 00:22:58,077 -see my daughter. I... -Oh. 451 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,410 I left her. She threw her arms around me, 452 00:23:01,494 --> 00:23:03,993 uh, and gave me a list of presents to, 453 00:23:04,077 --> 00:23:06,452 to bring back to her the next day I was gonna see her, 454 00:23:06,535 --> 00:23:08,118 which was two days later, 455 00:23:08,202 --> 00:23:11,327 and she was 7 years old then. 456 00:23:11,410 --> 00:23:14,911 And we were, you know, close, and she was crazy about me, 457 00:23:14,993 --> 00:23:17,285 and I was crazy about her. Am, still, of course. 458 00:23:17,369 --> 00:23:20,285 And I have not been able to see her. 459 00:23:22,118 --> 00:23:25,243 (birds chirping) 460 00:23:28,786 --> 00:23:31,452 Luna! See this? 461 00:23:33,993 --> 00:23:36,619 -Go get it! -Sean: She going for it? 462 00:23:36,702 --> 00:23:38,410 -Nope. -(dogs panting) 463 00:23:38,494 --> 00:23:40,702 These dogs don't hunt. 464 00:23:40,786 --> 00:23:41,993 Dylan: She used to. 465 00:23:42,077 --> 00:23:43,702 She used to be more interested in toys, 466 00:23:43,786 --> 00:23:45,911 but now you're older and wiser. 467 00:23:45,993 --> 00:23:48,577 (panting continues) 468 00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:51,077 Sean: When we first met, we were both at like 469 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,535 pivotal dating moments in our lives where we were both 470 00:23:54,619 --> 00:23:56,952 looking for something serious at the same time. 471 00:23:57,035 --> 00:24:00,577 I was going on The Onion for satire purposes, 472 00:24:00,661 --> 00:24:03,494 and I saw they had a dating site 473 00:24:03,577 --> 00:24:06,077 powered by OKCupid, and I'm like, why not? 474 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Maybe I'll find someone funny. 475 00:24:08,243 --> 00:24:10,535 I put this ultra, 476 00:24:10,619 --> 00:24:13,952 very honest post up-- 477 00:24:14,035 --> 00:24:15,202 profile up there, 478 00:24:15,285 --> 00:24:17,327 saying I'm a geek, but you can take me out in public. 479 00:24:17,410 --> 00:24:19,619 I shower, I promise. You know? 480 00:24:19,702 --> 00:24:21,952 And within the first day, I got this 481 00:24:22,035 --> 00:24:24,827 really surprising message from this 482 00:24:24,911 --> 00:24:28,243 really smokin' hot girl with this burgundy bob, 483 00:24:28,327 --> 00:24:30,952 and this cute little chin, and I was like-- 484 00:24:31,035 --> 00:24:33,577 And it said, "You didn't mention you were a cute geek." 485 00:24:33,661 --> 00:24:36,619 And I'm like, oh. Oh my. (laughs) 486 00:24:36,702 --> 00:24:38,619 -Um... -It's like the first and last time 487 00:24:38,702 --> 00:24:40,702 I've ever flirted with someone. 488 00:24:40,786 --> 00:24:43,035 Yeah, but you knocked it out of the park. That's a win. 489 00:24:43,118 --> 00:24:45,911 Yeah, (stammers) it just, I felt... 490 00:24:45,993 --> 00:24:49,827 really, um, connected to him really quickly. 491 00:24:49,911 --> 00:24:52,702 I had never connected with anyone like that before. 492 00:24:56,911 --> 00:25:00,243 At first, when we first started dating and we first started, 493 00:25:00,327 --> 00:25:03,535 you know, going into the natural intimacies of dating, 494 00:25:03,619 --> 00:25:06,160 I had no idea about, uh, 495 00:25:06,243 --> 00:25:08,243 about her past in that way. 496 00:25:09,577 --> 00:25:12,535 It didn't really come up until, 497 00:25:12,619 --> 00:25:14,619 one day, um, 498 00:25:14,702 --> 00:25:16,327 we were just having some fun, 499 00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:19,619 and suddenly, 500 00:25:19,702 --> 00:25:20,993 uh, she tensed up. 501 00:25:21,077 --> 00:25:22,993 She just really tensed up. 502 00:25:23,077 --> 00:25:26,619 And then immediately just started crying uncontrollably. 503 00:25:26,702 --> 00:25:29,243 And it turned out that I had, 504 00:25:29,327 --> 00:25:32,202 inadvertently, triggered something. 505 00:25:32,285 --> 00:25:34,160 And a lot of it was based on actually 506 00:25:34,243 --> 00:25:35,702 her lying down on her stomach 507 00:25:35,786 --> 00:25:38,118 because it's the same position she was in in the attic. 508 00:25:38,202 --> 00:25:39,494 Yeah. 509 00:25:42,285 --> 00:25:45,619 I didn't think of myself as an incest survivor. 510 00:25:46,535 --> 00:25:47,661 Um... 511 00:25:49,786 --> 00:25:51,410 I... 512 00:25:51,494 --> 00:25:53,952 you know, I, I heard about... 513 00:25:55,285 --> 00:25:58,827 you know, like, rape in the news. 514 00:25:58,911 --> 00:26:01,702 And it was just something that... 515 00:26:01,786 --> 00:26:04,869 happened to other people, 516 00:26:04,952 --> 00:26:08,452 and it was much worse than what I'd been through. 517 00:26:08,535 --> 00:26:10,702 I really had no right to complain 518 00:26:10,786 --> 00:26:14,911 about anything that had happened to me because it wasn't... 519 00:26:14,993 --> 00:26:19,494 it didn't fall neatly into a specific category, um. 520 00:26:21,369 --> 00:26:23,702 I just, I mean... 521 00:26:23,786 --> 00:26:26,494 (sighs) I'm like shaking, talking about this. 522 00:26:27,494 --> 00:26:29,160 (exhales) 523 00:26:31,993 --> 00:26:33,661 (sighs) Um... 524 00:26:37,452 --> 00:26:40,118 Wow, that was weird. I got like... 525 00:26:40,202 --> 00:26:43,494 shaky for a second. (exhales) 526 00:26:46,452 --> 00:26:48,327 Yeah, I just need like a second. 527 00:26:48,410 --> 00:26:51,494 ♪ ♪ 528 00:26:58,452 --> 00:27:01,577 My jaw is shaking. I'm sorry. 529 00:27:04,369 --> 00:27:07,911 I don't know. I don't know, I'm just... 530 00:27:07,993 --> 00:27:09,702 -(shivering) -Sean: I think it's just 531 00:27:09,786 --> 00:27:12,827 -a physical reaction to the whole thing. -My jaw is chattering. 532 00:27:12,911 --> 00:27:15,869 (sighs) I'm not cold. I'm not cold, I just... 533 00:27:16,577 --> 00:27:18,577 (shivering) 534 00:27:20,869 --> 00:27:23,535 (shivering) 535 00:27:28,869 --> 00:27:30,494 (inaudible) 536 00:27:32,577 --> 00:27:33,702 (kiss) 537 00:27:42,702 --> 00:27:44,118 Ronan: There was a period of time 538 00:27:44,202 --> 00:27:45,661 in which my sister was saying, 539 00:27:45,744 --> 00:27:48,452 "Look, I have consistently told this story for years, 540 00:27:48,535 --> 00:27:50,035 "and no one is listening. 541 00:27:50,118 --> 00:27:51,827 And I wanna go public with it again." 542 00:27:51,911 --> 00:27:53,827 I said, "This is not worth it. 543 00:27:53,911 --> 00:27:56,535 "You are going to make your entire life an identity 544 00:27:56,619 --> 00:27:59,494 about this one thing that happened to you as a kid." 545 00:27:59,577 --> 00:28:01,535 I hadn't yet thoroughly interviewed her 546 00:28:01,619 --> 00:28:04,827 or looked at the facts. I just wanted to run away from this. 547 00:28:04,911 --> 00:28:07,077 By then, I was a public figure in the media, 548 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,327 and all I wanted was for it to go away. 549 00:28:09,410 --> 00:28:10,911 Reporter: Ronan Farrow spent several years 550 00:28:10,993 --> 00:28:12,327 working at the State Department, 551 00:28:12,410 --> 00:28:14,619 including in the Office of the Special Representative 552 00:28:14,702 --> 00:28:16,327 for Afghanistan and Pakistan. 553 00:28:16,410 --> 00:28:18,160 Ronan Farrow joins us at the table. 554 00:28:18,243 --> 00:28:19,619 Ronan, good morning. 555 00:28:19,702 --> 00:28:22,452 -Such a pleasure to be here, guys. -Great to have you. 556 00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:25,243 I spent years of my life trying to 557 00:28:25,327 --> 00:28:27,202 build my own career and reputation 558 00:28:27,285 --> 00:28:29,786 and do work that I cared about and believed in, 559 00:28:29,869 --> 00:28:33,369 and wanting to avoid questions about this. 560 00:28:33,452 --> 00:28:36,202 She and I had knock-down, drag-out fights 561 00:28:36,285 --> 00:28:37,869 where I essentially told her to shut up. 562 00:28:37,952 --> 00:28:40,869 Where I said, "We're just clearing 20 years out," 563 00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:42,869 or whatever it was at that point. 564 00:28:42,952 --> 00:28:45,035 "For God's sake, just leave it behind." 565 00:28:45,118 --> 00:28:47,327 He asked me, point blank for the first time, 566 00:28:47,410 --> 00:28:50,535 he said, "What, what happened to you?" 567 00:28:50,619 --> 00:28:53,744 And he was obviously very, um, 568 00:28:53,827 --> 00:28:55,535 he was very sensitive about it. He's like, 569 00:28:55,619 --> 00:28:57,869 "You don't have to tell me if you don't want to." 570 00:28:57,952 --> 00:29:00,661 But, um, he, he asked me and... 571 00:29:01,869 --> 00:29:04,577 and so I shared it with him. 572 00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,827 The whole-- everything. 573 00:29:08,327 --> 00:29:10,744 And, um... 574 00:29:10,827 --> 00:29:14,619 after I was done, there was a long silence, and... 575 00:29:16,202 --> 00:29:19,577 he just started crying. 576 00:29:19,661 --> 00:29:22,661 She was incredibly brave about saying, "No. 577 00:29:22,744 --> 00:29:25,577 "This is the truth. I have never changed my story. 578 00:29:25,661 --> 00:29:27,243 "There is evidence on my side. 579 00:29:27,327 --> 00:29:30,410 If you actually read these court documents, you'll see that." 580 00:29:30,494 --> 00:29:32,661 And I did, for the first time, as an adult, 581 00:29:32,744 --> 00:29:35,202 as a journalist, as an attorney. 582 00:29:35,285 --> 00:29:39,410 I read the court documents and my reaction was, 583 00:29:39,494 --> 00:29:41,327 well, holy shit. I've been turning away 584 00:29:41,410 --> 00:29:43,619 from a real miscarriage of justice here. 585 00:29:44,535 --> 00:29:45,952 (music playing) 586 00:29:46,035 --> 00:29:50,035 Announcer: And now, ladies and gentlemen, Diane Keaton. 587 00:29:50,118 --> 00:29:53,202 (applause, cheering) 588 00:29:55,285 --> 00:29:58,952 Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. 589 00:29:59,035 --> 00:30:00,535 (cheering) 590 00:30:00,619 --> 00:30:04,160 Well, I think it's safe to say that 591 00:30:04,243 --> 00:30:06,285 Woody Allen is an anomaly. 592 00:30:06,369 --> 00:30:09,786 He's made 74 movies in 48 years. 593 00:30:09,869 --> 00:30:12,494 He's directed them, he's starred in them, 594 00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:16,369 he's produced them, and, of course, he's written them. 595 00:30:16,452 --> 00:30:19,118 He's written all of them, every one. 596 00:30:19,202 --> 00:30:22,243 Dylan: I wasn't even watching the Golden Globes, 597 00:30:22,327 --> 00:30:24,452 and all of a sudden, my phone started blowing up, 598 00:30:24,535 --> 00:30:25,993 and people were saying, 599 00:30:26,077 --> 00:30:30,077 "I'm so sorry. You shouldn't have to go through this." 600 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,285 And then I saw what they were talking about. 601 00:30:33,369 --> 00:30:37,619 The feature, for me anyway, that sets Woody's writing apart 602 00:30:37,702 --> 00:30:40,619 are the voices of four decades 603 00:30:40,702 --> 00:30:42,827 of unforgettable female characters, 604 00:30:42,911 --> 00:30:46,077 -starting with la-dee-da Annie Hall... -Dylan: And, um... 605 00:30:49,619 --> 00:30:51,243 I had a panic attack, 606 00:30:52,369 --> 00:30:54,327 and I felt 607 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:57,786 so... small. 608 00:30:57,869 --> 00:31:01,494 A genius who takes chances and never compromises his vision. 609 00:31:01,577 --> 00:31:04,952 A filmmaker who fills his movies with wry observation, 610 00:31:05,035 --> 00:31:06,661 frequently painful truth, 611 00:31:06,744 --> 00:31:10,077 and some of the best one-liners in history. 612 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,077 Ronan: As I'm watching this, I was 613 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,786 reluctantly, grudgingly realizing that 614 00:31:14,869 --> 00:31:17,160 I, as a public person by then, 615 00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:18,869 had to make a decision about 616 00:31:18,952 --> 00:31:20,702 whether I was gonna turn away from this. 617 00:31:20,786 --> 00:31:22,577 And so, I tweeted about it 618 00:31:22,661 --> 00:31:25,911 in a much more direct way than I had before. 619 00:31:32,494 --> 00:31:34,243 Dylan: At some point in the evening, 620 00:31:34,327 --> 00:31:36,661 my husband came in, and he said, 621 00:31:36,744 --> 00:31:41,702 "You know, Ronan tweeted this really cool thing." 622 00:31:41,786 --> 00:31:43,327 It was... 623 00:31:43,410 --> 00:31:46,160 kind of a light bulb moment because... 624 00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:51,369 (sighs) it felt like... 625 00:31:51,452 --> 00:31:54,577 wow, somebody's-- somebody's talking about it. 626 00:31:54,661 --> 00:31:57,619 I remember her calling me and crying. 627 00:31:57,702 --> 00:32:00,202 And saying that it just meant so much to her that, 628 00:32:00,285 --> 00:32:03,077 after we had had all these fights where I had told her to shut up, 629 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,827 that someone had finally acknowledged her. 630 00:32:08,619 --> 00:32:11,410 Dylan: That was sort of the watershed moment for me 631 00:32:11,494 --> 00:32:12,869 where I felt like 632 00:32:12,952 --> 00:32:17,410 if Ronan is talking about it, maybe I can talk about it, too. 633 00:32:17,494 --> 00:32:19,911 But the doctor I was seeing at the time 634 00:32:19,993 --> 00:32:23,410 said, you know, like, "If you go into this, 635 00:32:23,494 --> 00:32:25,160 "you are going to undo 636 00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:29,494 all of the hard work that you've done to heal yourself." 637 00:32:29,577 --> 00:32:33,993 And my first thought was there has been no healing. 638 00:32:34,077 --> 00:32:37,452 ♪ ♪ 639 00:32:37,535 --> 00:32:40,327 So, I wrote this essay, 640 00:32:40,410 --> 00:32:43,243 and I sent it to 641 00:32:43,327 --> 00:32:45,577 "The New York Times" and the "LA Times" opinion section. 642 00:32:46,744 --> 00:32:48,827 She went very far down 643 00:32:48,911 --> 00:32:52,160 the editorial process with a major national newspaper, 644 00:32:52,243 --> 00:32:56,035 which then resulted in the editor calling me, 645 00:32:56,118 --> 00:32:57,744 as a fellow journalist, and saying, 646 00:32:57,827 --> 00:32:59,952 "We can't run this. We have to cancel this 647 00:33:00,035 --> 00:33:03,035 even though we feel like it checks out." 648 00:33:03,118 --> 00:33:06,911 And then, I reached out to Nick Kristof. 649 00:33:06,993 --> 00:33:11,786 I had known Mia and Ronan Farrow for years. 650 00:33:11,869 --> 00:33:16,118 We were engaged in activities on Darfur. 651 00:33:16,202 --> 00:33:21,494 Ronan told me that Dylan had written an essay, 652 00:33:21,577 --> 00:33:24,577 and might I be able to help. 653 00:33:25,869 --> 00:33:29,410 I found her essay heartbreaking, 654 00:33:29,494 --> 00:33:32,494 and, and just devastating, 655 00:33:32,577 --> 00:33:35,243 and I thought it should have an outlet. 656 00:33:35,327 --> 00:33:37,869 There were some raised eyebrows at the "Times." 657 00:33:37,952 --> 00:33:40,160 You know, is it really appropriate for a columnist 658 00:33:40,243 --> 00:33:43,160 to use his blog to publish something that the "Times" 659 00:33:43,243 --> 00:33:46,410 itself does not wanna publish on the Op-Ed page? 660 00:33:46,494 --> 00:33:48,327 Is it appropriate in particular 661 00:33:48,410 --> 00:33:51,160 when that columnist is a family friend? 662 00:33:51,243 --> 00:33:52,952 ♪ ♪ 663 00:33:53,035 --> 00:33:56,535 I also think that there was still 664 00:33:56,619 --> 00:33:59,327 a culture at that point of 665 00:33:59,410 --> 00:34:03,118 being careful about giving voice to accusations 666 00:34:03,202 --> 00:34:06,535 and protecting powerful men. 667 00:34:06,619 --> 00:34:08,369 But at the end of the day, 668 00:34:08,452 --> 00:34:11,369 Dylan had written this extraordinary piece 669 00:34:11,452 --> 00:34:16,869 from the heart, and how could we not 670 00:34:16,952 --> 00:34:19,285 give the person at the center of this 671 00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:22,369 a chance to give her account of something 672 00:34:22,452 --> 00:34:25,243 everybody else in America had already talked about? 673 00:34:29,410 --> 00:34:31,494 ♪ ♪ 674 00:34:35,661 --> 00:34:38,452 Dylan: What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? 675 00:34:41,202 --> 00:34:44,118 Before you answer, you should know, 676 00:34:44,202 --> 00:34:45,869 when I was 7 years old, 677 00:34:45,952 --> 00:34:48,243 Woody Allen took me by the hand 678 00:34:48,327 --> 00:34:51,494 and lead me into a dim closet-like attic. 679 00:34:53,243 --> 00:34:54,911 He told me to lay on my stomach 680 00:34:54,993 --> 00:34:57,661 and play with my brother's electric train set. 681 00:34:58,744 --> 00:35:01,452 Then, he sexually assaulted me. 682 00:35:04,661 --> 00:35:06,285 For as long as I could remember, 683 00:35:06,369 --> 00:35:10,702 my father had been doing things to me that I didn't like. 684 00:35:10,786 --> 00:35:14,993 I didn't like it when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. 685 00:35:15,077 --> 00:35:17,243 I didn't like it when he would place his head 686 00:35:17,327 --> 00:35:21,410 in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out. 687 00:35:21,494 --> 00:35:23,661 I would hide under the beds 688 00:35:23,744 --> 00:35:26,702 or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters. 689 00:35:28,619 --> 00:35:30,661 But he always found me. 690 00:35:30,744 --> 00:35:33,494 ♪ ♪ 691 00:35:33,577 --> 00:35:37,535 I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. 692 00:35:41,243 --> 00:35:45,452 But what he did to me in the attic felt different. 693 00:35:45,535 --> 00:35:48,327 I couldn't keep the secret anymore. 694 00:35:50,369 --> 00:35:52,911 Others are still scared, vulnerable, 695 00:35:52,993 --> 00:35:56,327 and struggling for the courage to tell the truth. 696 00:35:57,911 --> 00:36:01,369 The message that Hollywood sends matters for them. 697 00:36:04,118 --> 00:36:06,160 So, imagine your 7-year-old daughter 698 00:36:06,243 --> 00:36:08,869 being led into an attic by Woody Allen. 699 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,535 Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken 700 00:36:12,619 --> 00:36:14,911 with nausea at the mention of his name. 701 00:36:16,577 --> 00:36:20,118 Imagine a world that celebrates her tormentor. 702 00:36:22,452 --> 00:36:25,619 Now, what's your favorite Woody Allen movie? 703 00:36:25,702 --> 00:36:28,786 ♪ ♪ 704 00:36:36,243 --> 00:36:42,494 I had gone for two decades feeling like I was alone in this. 705 00:36:42,577 --> 00:36:46,160 And one of the first things that happened 706 00:36:46,243 --> 00:36:49,535 within days of the essay being released 707 00:36:49,619 --> 00:36:54,160 is that so many separate people 708 00:36:54,243 --> 00:36:59,577 from my life contacted me... 709 00:36:59,661 --> 00:37:03,410 and, you know, talked about what happened to them. 710 00:37:03,494 --> 00:37:05,494 I think the gift that they didn't realize 711 00:37:05,577 --> 00:37:07,577 they were giving me was that, 712 00:37:07,661 --> 00:37:09,702 you know, I was-- I wasn't alone, 713 00:37:09,786 --> 00:37:14,202 or I wasn't as alone as I thought I was, and... 714 00:37:14,285 --> 00:37:17,118 part of that, there was something very... 715 00:37:18,869 --> 00:37:24,661 reassuring, but also, you know, devastating. 716 00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:31,369 Because now, I know that so many people in my life 717 00:37:31,452 --> 00:37:34,494 were suffering silently the same way I was. 718 00:37:34,577 --> 00:37:38,327 ♪ ♪ 719 00:37:38,410 --> 00:37:40,118 Woody: Imagine my sadness 720 00:37:40,202 --> 00:37:43,202 when not only did Dylan not want to see me, 721 00:37:43,285 --> 00:37:46,285 but instead wrote an open letter 722 00:37:46,369 --> 00:37:48,202 saying I molested her. 723 00:37:48,285 --> 00:37:50,702 The openness is important as the strategy 724 00:37:50,786 --> 00:37:53,577 behind going public is not to resolve anything, 725 00:37:53,661 --> 00:37:56,535 but to smear me, her mother's goal. 726 00:38:00,535 --> 00:38:03,702 (insects chirping) 727 00:38:03,786 --> 00:38:06,160 Mia: I have so, so much respect 728 00:38:06,243 --> 00:38:08,661 for Dylan, of who she is, 729 00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:11,952 what she had to do, and how she did it. 730 00:38:12,035 --> 00:38:15,535 To see Dylan, you know, claim herself, 731 00:38:15,619 --> 00:38:18,702 her whole self, um... 732 00:38:18,786 --> 00:38:21,285 And that meant going back and getting little Dylan 733 00:38:21,369 --> 00:38:24,285 and making her a part of this. 734 00:38:24,369 --> 00:38:27,993 I just told her how proud I was of her. 735 00:38:28,077 --> 00:38:29,786 But inside, I just crumple up 736 00:38:29,869 --> 00:38:32,410 because I know, I know he's gonna attack me. 737 00:38:33,702 --> 00:38:37,535 'Cause he can't really, you know, how can he... 738 00:38:37,619 --> 00:38:40,619 how can you attack her? She was a child. 739 00:38:40,702 --> 00:38:43,952 So you can only attack me. 740 00:38:44,035 --> 00:38:46,118 Woody: I'd always hoped when Dylan grew up, 741 00:38:46,202 --> 00:38:49,452 she would somehow realize how her mother had used her, 742 00:38:49,535 --> 00:38:52,702 taking full advantage of her age and vulnerability 743 00:38:52,786 --> 00:38:54,661 to deprive her of her father, 744 00:38:54,744 --> 00:38:58,993 knowing it was the surest vengeance toward me. 745 00:38:59,077 --> 00:39:01,035 Reporter 1: Film director Woody Allen promises 746 00:39:01,118 --> 00:39:03,786 to fight renewed allegations of child molestation. 747 00:39:03,869 --> 00:39:06,160 Reporter 2: The "Times" published his lengthy rebuttal, 748 00:39:06,243 --> 00:39:07,993 blasting the allegations as false, 749 00:39:08,077 --> 00:39:10,202 and blaming former girlfriend Mia Farrow 750 00:39:10,285 --> 00:39:11,619 for manipulating Dylan. 751 00:39:11,702 --> 00:39:14,077 "I love her," he writes of his daughter. 752 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,661 "And hope one day, she will grasp 753 00:39:15,744 --> 00:39:18,661 "how she has been exploited by a mother more interested in 754 00:39:18,744 --> 00:39:21,827 her own festering anger than her daughter's well-being." 755 00:39:21,911 --> 00:39:24,786 Reporter 3: He writes, "Not that I doubt Dylan hasn't come 756 00:39:24,869 --> 00:39:27,160 "to believe she's been molested, but if, 757 00:39:27,243 --> 00:39:29,661 "from the age of 7, a vulnerable child is taught 758 00:39:29,744 --> 00:39:31,952 "by a strong mother to hate her father, 759 00:39:32,035 --> 00:39:36,077 the image of me Mia wanted to establish had taken root." 760 00:39:38,535 --> 00:39:41,410 Dylan: It was very difficult 761 00:39:41,494 --> 00:39:45,035 to have come forward with something so... 762 00:39:45,118 --> 00:39:46,869 deeply personal. 763 00:39:46,952 --> 00:39:50,243 And being told that 764 00:39:50,327 --> 00:39:52,744 not only are 765 00:39:52,827 --> 00:39:56,577 the things you're saying not true, 766 00:39:56,661 --> 00:39:58,702 but that you don't have 767 00:39:58,786 --> 00:40:02,452 the authority to speak about your own experiences. 768 00:40:02,535 --> 00:40:04,160 Welcome back. Tonight, another child 769 00:40:04,243 --> 00:40:05,702 of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen is speaking out 770 00:40:05,786 --> 00:40:08,077 in defense of Woody Allen. Moses is-- 771 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,911 Moses Farrow's interview is in the new issue of "People" magazine. 772 00:40:10,993 --> 00:40:13,118 He says his sister Dylan's renewed allegations 773 00:40:13,202 --> 00:40:16,661 that Allen molested her when she was 7 are flat-out made up. 774 00:40:17,827 --> 00:40:19,661 Dylan: I got a call from 775 00:40:19,744 --> 00:40:22,285 my mom saying that 776 00:40:22,369 --> 00:40:25,786 there was a reporter from "People" magazine 777 00:40:25,869 --> 00:40:27,410 who was talking to Moses, 778 00:40:27,494 --> 00:40:31,327 and he was accusing me of lying about my abuse, 779 00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:36,035 and accusing my mom of abusing him. 780 00:40:36,118 --> 00:40:38,243 Moses goes on to say that, during his childhood, 781 00:40:38,327 --> 00:40:40,911 he was physically harmed. Really horrible-- 782 00:40:40,993 --> 00:40:44,118 -Anderson Cooper: Physically harmed by? -By Mia. By Mia. 783 00:40:44,202 --> 00:40:47,577 Uh, he, he really goes to great lengths 784 00:40:47,661 --> 00:40:50,077 to paint a portrait of his childhood that was 785 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,327 nothing short of horrific. 786 00:40:53,827 --> 00:40:56,369 Fletcher: I shared a bedroom with Moses. 787 00:40:58,702 --> 00:41:01,035 I never saw anybody dragged down stairs. 788 00:41:01,118 --> 00:41:06,160 I never saw anybody hit or locked in closets. 789 00:41:10,369 --> 00:41:12,535 Daisy: I had no idea why he would do this. 790 00:41:12,619 --> 00:41:16,619 He's suddenly speaking ill of my family and my mom. 791 00:41:16,702 --> 00:41:19,035 There was the typical, you know, grounding, yelling, 792 00:41:19,118 --> 00:41:22,202 when we did something wrong, but nothing abusive. 793 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,786 Daisy: No. 794 00:41:24,869 --> 00:41:28,077 The things he accuses her of are just ludicrous. 795 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,952 I absolutely would have remembered if she locked us in barns 796 00:41:31,035 --> 00:41:34,410 and, you know, smacked us and screamed at us. 797 00:41:34,494 --> 00:41:36,452 I saw his rapport with my mother. 798 00:41:36,535 --> 00:41:38,160 My mom was devoted to Moses. 799 00:41:38,243 --> 00:41:40,118 She was kind and gentle to him. 800 00:41:40,202 --> 00:41:43,993 And all through my childhood and much of my adult life, 801 00:41:44,077 --> 00:41:46,786 Moses stood by my sister and my mother. 802 00:41:46,869 --> 00:41:48,952 ♪ ♪ 803 00:42:03,077 --> 00:42:05,452 He told numerous people in his life, 804 00:42:05,535 --> 00:42:08,869 including his ex-wife, that he believed Dylan. 805 00:42:08,952 --> 00:42:11,035 We love and miss Moses, 806 00:42:11,118 --> 00:42:14,535 and it's been really devastating. 807 00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:17,327 Dylan: When I received that phone call, 808 00:42:17,410 --> 00:42:19,869 I just remember 809 00:42:19,952 --> 00:42:22,118 bursting into tears. 810 00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:25,911 Like... 811 00:42:26,786 --> 00:42:27,952 (sighs) 812 00:42:29,577 --> 00:42:32,202 It was like I'd been told that 813 00:42:32,285 --> 00:42:35,035 this person that I knew 814 00:42:35,118 --> 00:42:38,452 and loved and trusted was gone! 815 00:42:41,077 --> 00:42:42,577 He says the incident in question 816 00:42:42,661 --> 00:42:44,202 that Dylan outlined in her letter, 817 00:42:44,285 --> 00:42:47,035 the incident in the attic with the train set, 818 00:42:47,118 --> 00:42:48,744 couldn't have happened by his own memory, 819 00:42:48,827 --> 00:42:51,160 and he himself was a child at the time, by his own memory, 820 00:42:51,243 --> 00:42:54,243 he says it couldn't have happened because on that day, 821 00:42:54,327 --> 00:42:57,369 they were all in public rooms, and said there's simply no way 822 00:42:57,452 --> 00:42:59,035 it could've happened. 823 00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:02,285 ♪ ♪ 824 00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:26,327 Woody: New to the story was a fresh, creative touch, 825 00:44:26,410 --> 00:44:28,327 something that never came up a single time 826 00:44:28,410 --> 00:44:30,702 during all the months of investigation 827 00:44:30,786 --> 00:44:33,202 in any of Dylan's numerous interviews. 828 00:44:33,285 --> 00:44:36,452 That is, Dylan suddenly claiming she was molested 829 00:44:36,535 --> 00:44:39,369 while she stared at the electric trains in the attic 830 00:44:39,452 --> 00:44:41,243 going round and round. 831 00:45:23,619 --> 00:45:25,619 I was now the real-life protagonist 832 00:45:25,702 --> 00:45:29,035 of a drama about an innocent person wrongly accused. 833 00:45:29,118 --> 00:45:32,535 Of course, unlike Hollywood, no Jimmy Stewart or Henry Fonda 834 00:45:32,619 --> 00:45:35,786 emerged suddenly to take my case and right the wrongs. 835 00:45:35,869 --> 00:45:38,035 But in real life, some rose 836 00:45:38,118 --> 00:45:40,118 and were fearless enough to take a principled stand. 837 00:45:40,202 --> 00:45:42,869 It's controversial. You accepted an award recently 838 00:45:42,952 --> 00:45:43,952 -for Woody Allen. -Uh-huh. 839 00:45:44,035 --> 00:45:46,452 -Did you have any trepidations? -No! 840 00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:47,869 -None whatsoever? -Of course not. 841 00:45:47,952 --> 00:45:49,577 I mean, you have to look at my life this way. 842 00:45:49,661 --> 00:45:52,369 I mean, he gave me my opportunity to be here 843 00:45:52,452 --> 00:45:54,869 and talk to you. It's all because of Woody Allen. 844 00:45:54,952 --> 00:45:57,243 Woody: Alec Baldwin was one of the very few 845 00:45:57,327 --> 00:45:59,619 with the courage to speak out bravely 846 00:45:59,702 --> 00:46:01,327 and clearly on my behalf. 847 00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:03,160 Reporter: On Sunday, Alec Baldwin continued to defend 848 00:46:03,243 --> 00:46:05,285 embattled director Woody Allen who has been accused 849 00:46:05,369 --> 00:46:08,327 of sexual abuse by adopted daughter Dylan Farrow. 850 00:46:08,410 --> 00:46:10,535 Reporter 2: Javier Bardem said he has doubts 851 00:46:10,619 --> 00:46:12,369 about the longstanding allegations 852 00:46:12,452 --> 00:46:14,619 of sexual misconduct against the filmmaker. 853 00:46:14,702 --> 00:46:16,661 Reporter 3: Actor Adrien Brody recently weighed in 854 00:46:16,744 --> 00:46:19,077 on the sexual assault allegation against filmmakers 855 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,160 Woody Allen and Roman Polanski. 856 00:46:21,243 --> 00:46:25,243 Adrien Brody: People make mistakes in lives and, and, uh... 857 00:46:25,327 --> 00:46:26,993 -you know. -Jenny McCarthy: Gotta forgive. 858 00:46:27,077 --> 00:46:29,494 Adrien: Well, it's, I-- 859 00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:32,827 It's not for me to delve into. 860 00:46:32,911 --> 00:46:35,202 It's not really my place. 861 00:46:35,285 --> 00:46:36,911 I think that's a family issue, 862 00:46:36,993 --> 00:46:40,202 and I hope they can, they can resolve it. I really do. 863 00:46:40,285 --> 00:46:42,619 Lili Loofbourow: So there seemed to be not a coordinated effort exactly, 864 00:46:42,702 --> 00:46:45,452 but a series of commenters defending him 865 00:46:45,535 --> 00:46:47,118 in a way that I found kind of perplexing, 866 00:46:47,202 --> 00:46:50,869 and it seemed to be repeating a lot of the same talking points. 867 00:46:50,952 --> 00:46:53,827 There is a very strong fact 868 00:46:53,911 --> 00:46:56,577 in Woody's column, and that is this. 869 00:46:56,661 --> 00:46:59,869 That a team of experts concluded back then 870 00:46:59,952 --> 00:47:01,911 that Dylan was not abused. 871 00:47:01,993 --> 00:47:04,327 Yale-New Haven determined after six months, 872 00:47:04,410 --> 00:47:06,661 where everybody was interviewed, that it didn't happen. 873 00:47:06,744 --> 00:47:09,202 -So you believe she believes it because this idea was-- -I believe that. 874 00:47:09,285 --> 00:47:13,202 Ronan: The fact the Yale-New Haven report is still cited is 875 00:47:13,285 --> 00:47:15,952 evidence of just how powerful it is 876 00:47:16,035 --> 00:47:17,869 when a PR machine 877 00:47:17,952 --> 00:47:21,369 plants an idea into the public narrative. 878 00:47:21,452 --> 00:47:23,993 I, at the time, was in the media and was getting 879 00:47:24,077 --> 00:47:28,202 the emails from Leslee Dart and Woody Allen's powerful PR team. 880 00:47:28,285 --> 00:47:32,410 There were dozens of reporters from major news outlets on those emails. 881 00:47:37,952 --> 00:47:40,118 She basically positioned this as, 882 00:47:40,202 --> 00:47:43,452 here's this way you can attack this young woman's credibility. 883 00:47:43,535 --> 00:47:47,410 Here's a validator you can put on-air to say that she's brainwashed. 884 00:47:47,494 --> 00:47:50,285 When you have Leslee Dart on your payroll, 885 00:47:50,369 --> 00:47:51,827 that is someone who can say 886 00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:53,494 you better print this, or I'm gonna withhold 887 00:47:53,577 --> 00:47:56,494 my clients from you in the future. 888 00:47:56,577 --> 00:47:58,911 Alissa Wilkinson: Leslee Dart reps a lot of 889 00:47:58,993 --> 00:48:01,035 really big, important celebrities. 890 00:48:01,118 --> 00:48:02,869 She's known for being one of the people 891 00:48:02,952 --> 00:48:05,993 who might blackball a journalist for covering something 892 00:48:06,077 --> 00:48:07,452 in a way she didn't like, 893 00:48:07,535 --> 00:48:10,911 which bears itself out when Ronan himself wrote an article 894 00:48:10,993 --> 00:48:13,577 for the "Hollywood Reporter" about his father. 895 00:48:13,661 --> 00:48:16,160 Leslee Dart banned the "Hollywood Reporter" 896 00:48:16,243 --> 00:48:17,661 from coming to the luncheon 897 00:48:17,744 --> 00:48:21,993 that was celebrating the release of Allen's new movie. 898 00:48:22,077 --> 00:48:24,369 Reporter: It does tell us a bit of how Hollywood works though, right? 899 00:48:24,452 --> 00:48:26,118 -That these publicists are very powerful. -Yes. 900 00:48:26,202 --> 00:48:28,202 They're out there to create a narrative 901 00:48:28,285 --> 00:48:30,285 around their influence, around their client. 902 00:48:30,369 --> 00:48:33,035 Ronan: There is a culture of 903 00:48:33,118 --> 00:48:35,410 transactional access journalism, 904 00:48:35,494 --> 00:48:37,744 where powerful PR people 905 00:48:37,827 --> 00:48:40,327 trade stories and plant stories 906 00:48:40,410 --> 00:48:42,744 and put into the public consciousness 907 00:48:42,827 --> 00:48:44,827 whatever their clients want. 908 00:48:44,911 --> 00:48:48,035 Is it a story? Is it a fantasy? 909 00:48:48,118 --> 00:48:50,160 Reporter: Dylan Farrow had likely been coached. 910 00:48:50,243 --> 00:48:52,577 -She had been coached. -Cooper: Had likely been coached. 911 00:48:52,661 --> 00:48:55,035 Dylan may have been affected by a product of 912 00:48:55,118 --> 00:48:57,993 -parental alienation, the ugliness between the spouses. -Yes. 913 00:48:58,077 --> 00:49:01,077 There have been cases of parental alienation, 914 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,494 where one parent wants to turn the child 915 00:49:03,577 --> 00:49:05,243 against the other parent, 916 00:49:05,327 --> 00:49:07,744 and therefore may begin coaching them 917 00:49:07,827 --> 00:49:12,160 as to a sexual abuse that perhaps did not happen. 918 00:49:12,243 --> 00:49:15,327 ♪ ♪ 919 00:49:22,911 --> 00:49:24,410 John EB Myers: Parental alienation spread 920 00:49:24,494 --> 00:49:27,494 like wildfire across the United States. 921 00:49:27,577 --> 00:49:30,035 I'm in family court all the time. 922 00:49:30,118 --> 00:49:33,202 I read about this in the case law, 923 00:49:33,285 --> 00:49:35,285 and it's absolutely ubiquitous that 924 00:49:35,369 --> 00:49:36,952 that claim will be made in family court. 925 00:49:37,035 --> 00:49:40,702 It's made almost every day in every state across the country. 926 00:49:42,702 --> 00:49:44,327 It got a hold in the court system 927 00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:46,952 because it was easier to blame a mother 928 00:49:47,035 --> 00:49:50,035 than to blame a father for being an abuser. 929 00:49:50,118 --> 00:49:52,452 It was way more believable 930 00:49:52,535 --> 00:49:55,952 that a mother can be hysterical and angry and upset 931 00:49:56,035 --> 00:49:58,744 than a father could be an abuser. 932 00:50:11,410 --> 00:50:14,035 Not only do courts not believe abuse when it's alleged 933 00:50:14,118 --> 00:50:15,744 by mothers against fathers, 934 00:50:15,827 --> 00:50:18,577 women lose custody for alleging abuse against fathers, 935 00:50:18,661 --> 00:50:20,410 and they particularly lose custody 936 00:50:20,494 --> 00:50:23,786 when they allege child sexual abuse and child physical abuse. 937 00:50:23,869 --> 00:50:26,160 Reporter: Concerned parents protested this very issue 938 00:50:26,243 --> 00:50:28,243 recently in downtown LA. 939 00:50:28,327 --> 00:50:30,369 -Man: What do we want? -Crowd: Children protected! 940 00:50:30,452 --> 00:50:32,369 -Man: When do we want it? -Crowd: Now! 941 00:50:32,452 --> 00:50:34,494 We reported abuse, and I lost my grandchild. 942 00:50:34,577 --> 00:50:37,077 I reported abuse and lost my son. 943 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,202 I reported abuse and lost custody. 944 00:50:39,285 --> 00:50:42,410 The culture has to understand the family courts have been 945 00:50:42,494 --> 00:50:44,535 not only not protecting, but really 946 00:50:44,619 --> 00:50:46,494 sending children to abuse. 947 00:51:05,952 --> 00:51:08,327 Joyanna Silberg: These children never recover. 948 00:51:08,410 --> 00:51:11,369 They have an increased rate of suicide attempts. 949 00:51:11,452 --> 00:51:14,827 They have severe mental health difficulties. 950 00:51:14,911 --> 00:51:17,535 They have dissociative disorders. 951 00:51:17,619 --> 00:51:19,744 For so many victims of incest, 952 00:51:19,827 --> 00:51:22,661 the longterm impact is devastating. 953 00:51:26,535 --> 00:51:28,911 (birds chirping) 954 00:51:28,993 --> 00:51:33,118 Dylan: It feels isolating to be a survivor of sexual abuse. 955 00:51:35,202 --> 00:51:37,952 It doesn't go away. It doesn't-- 956 00:51:38,035 --> 00:51:40,327 It doesn't vanish overnight. 957 00:51:40,410 --> 00:51:42,535 It's a lifelong... 958 00:51:43,661 --> 00:51:44,786 sentence. 959 00:51:44,869 --> 00:51:46,410 (birds chirping) 960 00:51:46,494 --> 00:51:49,744 And this is not just my story. 961 00:51:49,827 --> 00:51:53,577 There are still so many of us out there who 962 00:51:53,661 --> 00:51:59,369 feel unseen, who feel unheard, who feel disbelieved. 963 00:51:59,452 --> 00:52:02,118 It's the story of everyone 964 00:52:02,202 --> 00:52:05,827 who has come up against a powerful figure, 965 00:52:05,911 --> 00:52:08,327 and had to hold their own against 966 00:52:08,410 --> 00:52:10,619 ridiculous odds. 967 00:52:10,702 --> 00:52:12,494 ♪ ♪ 968 00:52:12,577 --> 00:52:15,035 Reporter 1: Allegations of sexual assault made by 969 00:52:15,118 --> 00:52:17,577 a dozen actresses against Harvey Weinstein 970 00:52:17,661 --> 00:52:20,243 appeared online in early October. 971 00:52:20,327 --> 00:52:22,952 Brian Stelter: And joining us at the table, Ronan Farrow, 972 00:52:23,035 --> 00:52:24,786 who investigated Weinstein for 10 months 973 00:52:24,869 --> 00:52:27,202 and published this chilling "New Yorker" story 974 00:52:27,285 --> 00:52:29,202 about alleged assaults and rapes. 975 00:52:29,285 --> 00:52:31,786 We are in this moment where women are coming forward 976 00:52:31,869 --> 00:52:34,494 -one after another, in industry after industry, -Yeah. 977 00:52:34,577 --> 00:52:36,786 telling the hardest stories of a lifetime. 978 00:52:36,869 --> 00:52:39,369 Reporter 2: As he interviewed women making accusations, 979 00:52:39,452 --> 00:52:42,035 Dylan was on his mind. 980 00:52:42,118 --> 00:52:45,160 She made a very brave choice to go public 981 00:52:45,243 --> 00:52:46,827 because she thought it could help others. 982 00:52:46,911 --> 00:52:49,661 Gayle King: Dylan Farrow says she's speaking up again 983 00:52:49,744 --> 00:52:51,160 to have her voice included 984 00:52:51,243 --> 00:52:53,702 in the Time's Up and MeToo conversations. 985 00:52:53,786 --> 00:52:57,494 Dylan: With so much silence being broken, 986 00:52:57,577 --> 00:53:01,452 it was important to add my story to theirs. 987 00:53:01,535 --> 00:53:03,869 Gayle: Woody Allen was never charged 988 00:53:03,952 --> 00:53:06,243 with a crime in this case. 989 00:53:06,327 --> 00:53:08,869 Man: But, as we know, there was probable cause 990 00:53:08,952 --> 00:53:11,661 determined by the Connecticut State's Attorney in '93, 991 00:53:11,744 --> 00:53:13,744 but he didn't go through with prosecution. 992 00:53:13,827 --> 00:53:15,494 Gayle: Frank Maco thought Dylan was 993 00:53:15,577 --> 00:53:18,077 too fragile to face a celebrity trial. 994 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,077 (birds chirping) 995 00:53:25,577 --> 00:53:29,577 Dylan: I wish that I had testified or that I had... 996 00:53:29,661 --> 00:53:32,202 just been put up there anyway. 997 00:53:32,285 --> 00:53:34,869 And I don't wish that 998 00:53:34,952 --> 00:53:37,619 Frank Maco had disregarded my mental health, 999 00:53:37,702 --> 00:53:40,993 but I wish that I had been stronger. 1000 00:53:41,077 --> 00:53:46,243 That I hadn't crumpled so much under the-- under the pressure. 1001 00:53:48,243 --> 00:53:51,452 I, to this day, feel like... 1002 00:53:52,786 --> 00:53:55,285 I was given an opportunity to be brave, 1003 00:53:56,077 --> 00:53:57,410 and I turned it down. 1004 00:54:05,452 --> 00:54:08,452 I mean, when I made my decision back in 1005 00:54:08,535 --> 00:54:10,827 1993... 1006 00:54:10,911 --> 00:54:13,243 uh, not to prosecute, 1007 00:54:13,327 --> 00:54:15,035 I told your mom at that time 1008 00:54:15,118 --> 00:54:17,577 that if, at some point, you wanted to find out 1009 00:54:17,661 --> 00:54:19,911 what I did, why I did it, 1010 00:54:19,993 --> 00:54:22,160 I would certainly meet with you 1011 00:54:22,243 --> 00:54:24,327 and answer whatever questions you had. 1012 00:54:25,661 --> 00:54:28,077 My mom always made it known to me 1013 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,285 that I had a lot to be very thankful to you for. 1014 00:54:32,327 --> 00:54:35,202 That I'd been, you know, spared 1015 00:54:35,285 --> 00:54:37,869 the circus of a courtroom and... 1016 00:54:38,827 --> 00:54:41,911 all of that madness, and 1017 00:54:41,993 --> 00:54:43,702 probably trauma. 1018 00:54:43,786 --> 00:54:46,243 But a part of me really, really wishes that 1019 00:54:46,327 --> 00:54:50,661 I could've done it and that I could've had my day in court. 1020 00:54:54,202 --> 00:54:57,911 Frank: You have every right to have whatever feelings you have. 1021 00:54:59,035 --> 00:55:01,118 But I can tell you right now, 1022 00:55:01,202 --> 00:55:03,535 my fault because there is never a chance 1023 00:55:03,619 --> 00:55:06,243 that I would do that to you. 1024 00:55:06,327 --> 00:55:08,619 Just put you on the stand to have you freeze, 1025 00:55:08,702 --> 00:55:10,952 is something that's incomprehensible. 1026 00:55:11,035 --> 00:55:14,535 But I never want to hear that you blame yourself. 1027 00:55:15,869 --> 00:55:17,661 I made the decision. 1028 00:55:17,744 --> 00:55:20,452 And do I think about it? Of course! 1029 00:55:20,535 --> 00:55:22,327 That case... 1030 00:55:22,410 --> 00:55:23,952 As many cases as I've tried, 1031 00:55:24,035 --> 00:55:26,827 as many cases of sexual abuses I've tried, 1032 00:55:26,911 --> 00:55:29,702 as many murder cases as I've tried, 1033 00:55:30,702 --> 00:55:34,661 what's the case that's gonna be with me 1034 00:55:34,744 --> 00:55:37,035 for the rest of my days? 1035 00:55:37,118 --> 00:55:39,869 My decision in this investigation. 1036 00:55:41,577 --> 00:55:43,369 (sniffles, laughs) 1037 00:55:44,827 --> 00:55:48,577 I wasn't exactly sure like what I wanted... 1038 00:55:49,452 --> 00:55:51,410 to say. 1039 00:55:53,077 --> 00:55:54,535 I guess... 1040 00:55:54,619 --> 00:55:57,535 I guess I just needed to hear that. (sniffs) 1041 00:55:58,410 --> 00:56:00,035 Thank you. 1042 00:56:00,786 --> 00:56:02,619 For everything. 1043 00:56:02,702 --> 00:56:05,619 ♪ ♪ 1044 00:56:05,702 --> 00:56:08,869 (indistinct chatter) 1045 00:56:19,077 --> 00:56:22,202 Alissa: About two months after the allegations against Weinstein, 1046 00:56:22,285 --> 00:56:25,869 Dylan wrote another op-ed, this time for the "LA Times," 1047 00:56:25,952 --> 00:56:29,035 and asked explicitly why hasn't the MeToo movement 1048 00:56:29,118 --> 00:56:31,535 toppled Woody Allen yet. And in it, 1049 00:56:31,619 --> 00:56:34,202 she links the way that Hollywood had protected 1050 00:56:34,285 --> 00:56:36,827 other predators to the way people had protected 1051 00:56:36,911 --> 00:56:40,452 her father and renewed her allegations against him. 1052 00:56:42,118 --> 00:56:46,077 I'm tired of not being believed and being told that... 1053 00:56:47,993 --> 00:56:53,369 that I'm wrong about something I know 100% for fact. 1054 00:56:53,452 --> 00:56:57,202 I'm tired of being told that my experiences don't matter. 1055 00:56:57,285 --> 00:57:00,993 I'm tired of feeling like... 1056 00:57:01,827 --> 00:57:04,410 he matters more than me. 1057 00:57:04,494 --> 00:57:06,744 I'm tired of 1058 00:57:06,827 --> 00:57:09,035 this whole argument of separating 1059 00:57:09,118 --> 00:57:12,494 the art from the artist so that you can feel better about it. 1060 00:57:13,869 --> 00:57:15,327 Reporter: The MeToo Movement has forced 1061 00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:17,410 the country to take a second look at art. 1062 00:57:17,494 --> 00:57:21,160 We've known for a long time that not all artists are nice people. 1063 00:57:21,243 --> 00:57:23,535 Caravaggio murdered somebody. 1064 00:57:23,619 --> 00:57:25,952 Man: Charles Dickens was an anti-Semite. 1065 00:57:26,035 --> 00:57:27,535 Woman: I mean, the list goes on, right? 1066 00:57:27,619 --> 00:57:30,577 The question is, at the end of the day, is it still good art? 1067 00:57:30,661 --> 00:57:33,535 What do we do with great art made by bad people? 1068 00:57:33,619 --> 00:57:35,452 How do we respond? How is the work 1069 00:57:35,535 --> 00:57:38,744 altered by our knowledge of their badness? 1070 00:57:38,827 --> 00:57:41,202 Do we keep consuming it? Do we not consume it? 1071 00:57:41,285 --> 00:57:43,661 -What about Michael Jackson? -It's a slippery slope, 1072 00:57:43,744 --> 00:57:46,535 the whole idea that we need a spotless moral character 1073 00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:49,535 for any artist because no one's gonna pass that test. 1074 00:57:49,619 --> 00:57:51,452 -Bill Cosby. -No, I can't listen to him now. 1075 00:57:51,535 --> 00:57:55,202 -No. Oh, you can't? You can't separate it? -I can't separate it. I can't. 1076 00:57:57,452 --> 00:57:58,744 -Hmm. -(scattered laughter, applause) 1077 00:57:58,827 --> 00:58:01,035 -Well, to me it's-- -'Cause there's love there. 1078 00:58:01,118 --> 00:58:02,952 -There's love there. -Yeah, yeah! I know... 1079 00:58:03,035 --> 00:58:05,452 Claire: When you look back at men 1080 00:58:05,535 --> 00:58:08,243 like Picasso putting out a cigarette on a woman's cheek, 1081 00:58:08,327 --> 00:58:11,035 it's not like, you know, there was a rising up to 1082 00:58:11,118 --> 00:58:13,077 argue that we shouldn't buy Picassos. 1083 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,702 If anything, those behaviors burnished their images. 1084 00:58:16,786 --> 00:58:19,535 So, you know, there was this... 1085 00:58:19,619 --> 00:58:24,118 way in which, for a long time, these really, um, 1086 00:58:24,202 --> 00:58:27,452 aggro male behaviors 1087 00:58:27,535 --> 00:58:29,661 were part of the artist's image, 1088 00:58:29,744 --> 00:58:31,577 and part of maybe even 1089 00:58:31,661 --> 00:58:33,285 what made people interested in them. 1090 00:58:33,369 --> 00:58:35,327 The big question is what do you do 1091 00:58:35,410 --> 00:58:37,993 with these things that are out there 1092 00:58:38,077 --> 00:58:41,160 and that mean something to you? Do you never revisit them? 1093 00:58:41,243 --> 00:58:43,744 Or do you revisit them and learn from them? 1094 00:58:43,827 --> 00:58:46,118 You know, I think the mistake we women make 1095 00:58:46,202 --> 00:58:48,410 is we fall in love with the artist-- Hey! You guys, are you listening? 1096 00:58:48,494 --> 00:58:50,410 -Yes, yes. I'm listening. -We fall in love with the artist, 1097 00:58:50,494 --> 00:58:53,661 -not the man. -I don't think that's a mistake. How is that a mistake? 1098 00:58:53,744 --> 00:58:56,494 (overlapping arguing) 1099 00:58:56,577 --> 00:58:58,202 Claire: When you write about Woody Allen 1100 00:58:58,285 --> 00:59:01,702 and you talk about Woody Allen, and you don't... 1101 00:59:01,786 --> 00:59:03,911 speak in the most glowing terms, 1102 00:59:03,993 --> 00:59:06,202 there tends to be, um, 1103 00:59:06,285 --> 00:59:09,160 a response from, in particular, male fans, 1104 00:59:09,243 --> 00:59:12,452 who sort of argue with 1105 00:59:13,744 --> 00:59:17,035 the whole premise that 1106 00:59:17,118 --> 00:59:18,702 there might be 1107 00:59:18,786 --> 00:59:21,619 a biographical case to be made 1108 00:59:21,702 --> 00:59:23,911 against Woody's work. 1109 00:59:25,452 --> 00:59:29,035 But I actually think that acknowledging 1110 00:59:29,118 --> 00:59:31,661 the biographical element, withstanding it, 1111 00:59:31,744 --> 00:59:35,369 and still continuing to consume the art 1112 00:59:35,452 --> 00:59:36,952 is a stronger argument 1113 00:59:37,035 --> 00:59:40,661 for the endurance and the beauty and the importance of art, 1114 00:59:40,744 --> 00:59:44,077 rather than pretending that the biography doesn't touch it. 1115 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,494 It's so much easier when nobody's making any money, isn't it? 1116 00:59:47,577 --> 00:59:49,202 (laughs) 1117 00:59:49,285 --> 00:59:51,369 Wagner's not getting any money when we perform 1118 00:59:51,452 --> 00:59:53,577 his operas, you know? 1119 00:59:53,661 --> 00:59:57,285 In the process of spending all this time 1120 00:59:57,369 --> 00:59:59,869 understanding the mind of someone 1121 00:59:59,952 --> 01:00:02,077 who I thought of as abusive, 1122 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,911 and kind of understanding 1123 01:00:04,993 --> 01:00:07,327 how his mind worked 1124 01:00:07,410 --> 01:00:10,452 and what made things tick, it was... 1125 01:00:11,661 --> 01:00:14,077 giving him box office, giving him press, 1126 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,243 giving him more power. 1127 01:00:16,327 --> 01:00:20,661 And by writing about his movies and contributing to his movies, 1128 01:00:20,744 --> 01:00:25,577 I was increasing the power that he was able to abuse. 1129 01:00:25,661 --> 01:00:27,661 And for me, that was the line. 1130 01:00:27,744 --> 01:00:30,452 So I wrote an article in the "Hollywood Reporter" 1131 01:00:30,535 --> 01:00:33,993 about how I wouldn't watch any more new Woody Allen films. 1132 01:00:36,535 --> 01:00:38,577 I had to turn off all my notifications. 1133 01:00:38,661 --> 01:00:40,285 I've never gotten so much hate mail. 1134 01:00:40,369 --> 01:00:43,118 I just like tried to be offline for a while after I wrote this. 1135 01:00:43,202 --> 01:00:46,786 I haven't seen a new Woody Allen film since, 1136 01:00:46,869 --> 01:00:49,702 and I... 1137 01:00:49,786 --> 01:00:52,827 probably won't until he's dead. 1138 01:00:52,911 --> 01:00:55,077 ♪ ♪ 1139 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,369 I got an interview with Roland Pollard. 1140 01:00:57,452 --> 01:00:59,744 -Oh my gosh, that is amazing! -(laughs) 1141 01:00:59,827 --> 01:01:02,702 -And it's on campus? -Mm-mmm. It's in Manhattan. 1142 01:01:02,786 --> 01:01:04,452 ♪ ♪ 1143 01:01:04,535 --> 01:01:06,410 Alissa: So one of the earliest actors 1144 01:01:06,494 --> 01:01:08,160 to say they wouldn't work with him again 1145 01:01:08,243 --> 01:01:10,577 and they wished they hadn't in the past 1146 01:01:10,661 --> 01:01:12,285 was Griffin Newman, who had shot 1147 01:01:12,369 --> 01:01:14,243 scenes for "Rainy Day In New York," 1148 01:01:14,327 --> 01:01:16,035 He said he regretted it. 1149 01:01:16,118 --> 01:01:18,327 He wished he hadn't done it, and he donated his salary. 1150 01:01:18,410 --> 01:01:20,494 Several other people followed. 1151 01:01:20,577 --> 01:01:23,993 Rebecca Hall and Timothée Chalamet 1152 01:01:24,077 --> 01:01:26,160 and Selena Gomez, all of these people started 1153 01:01:26,243 --> 01:01:28,202 donating their salaries as well. 1154 01:01:28,285 --> 01:01:31,535 ♪ ♪ 1155 01:01:31,619 --> 01:01:34,869 Dylan: When the first messages of support 1156 01:01:34,952 --> 01:01:37,744 actually came, I-I-I was kind of shocked. 1157 01:01:39,952 --> 01:01:43,160 It was presented to actors that these were people 1158 01:01:43,243 --> 01:01:46,077 who it was okay to work with. 1159 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,535 Um, but now, of course, 1160 01:01:48,619 --> 01:01:51,827 I feel I can just say, you know, I shouldn't have done. 1161 01:01:56,243 --> 01:01:58,661 Dylan: I think what they did took 1162 01:01:58,744 --> 01:02:01,702 a lot of bravery in and of itself, 1163 01:02:01,786 --> 01:02:05,243 and it's really helped me to... 1164 01:02:06,619 --> 01:02:12,577 to reclaim some of my own sense of self-worth. 1165 01:02:14,786 --> 01:02:17,410 And every message of support 1166 01:02:17,494 --> 01:02:20,535 that I've received has been a gift. 1167 01:02:20,619 --> 01:02:23,327 Gayle: Over the past two weeks, several celebrities have voiced 1168 01:02:23,410 --> 01:02:25,869 their support for Farrow, including Natalie Portman, 1169 01:02:25,952 --> 01:02:28,577 who spoke out on "CBS Sunday Morning." 1170 01:02:28,661 --> 01:02:31,243 I believe Dylan. I wanna say that. 1171 01:02:31,327 --> 01:02:33,118 I believe you, Dylan. 1172 01:02:33,202 --> 01:02:37,035 ♪ ♪ 1173 01:02:37,118 --> 01:02:39,952 I do think that my sister's ferocious courage 1174 01:02:40,035 --> 01:02:43,285 in insisting that she speak out again as an adult 1175 01:02:43,369 --> 01:02:47,577 was part of a set of circumstances 1176 01:02:47,661 --> 01:02:51,911 that catalyzed more women feeling empowered to speak. 1177 01:02:51,993 --> 01:02:54,869 And you can chart how different the reaction was 1178 01:02:54,952 --> 01:02:57,035 when my sister spoke in 2014, 1179 01:02:57,118 --> 01:03:01,285 and then when she again spoke in 2018. 1180 01:03:01,369 --> 01:03:03,619 The culture changed in that window 1181 01:03:03,702 --> 01:03:06,285 in a significant way, and we are, for the first time, 1182 01:03:06,369 --> 01:03:08,577 hearing stories like hers, 1183 01:03:08,661 --> 01:03:11,911 and not spin and counter-narrative. 1184 01:03:16,993 --> 01:03:20,118 Allen: The press lumped me with any number of men 1185 01:03:20,202 --> 01:03:22,494 who were charged, convicted, or admitted 1186 01:03:22,577 --> 01:03:25,869 to sex crimes or harassment of large numbers of women 1187 01:03:25,952 --> 01:03:28,702 on numerous occasions, despite the fact 1188 01:03:28,786 --> 01:03:31,410 the accusation against me had repeatedly 1189 01:03:31,494 --> 01:03:33,452 been found not to have occurred. 1190 01:03:33,535 --> 01:03:36,619 Schools stopped giving courses on my films. 1191 01:03:36,702 --> 01:03:40,285 I was cut out of a documentary about the Carlyle Hotel. 1192 01:03:40,369 --> 01:03:43,619 I was cut out of a series on poetry by PBS. 1193 01:03:43,702 --> 01:03:46,285 My completed film, "A Rainy Day In New York," 1194 01:03:46,369 --> 01:03:48,869 lay around undistributed in America, 1195 01:03:48,952 --> 01:03:52,243 though, mercifully, the rest of the world was not so nuts. 1196 01:04:00,993 --> 01:04:03,035 Throughout her relationship with Woody Allen, 1197 01:04:03,118 --> 01:04:05,160 Soon-Yi has remained mostly silent. 1198 01:04:05,243 --> 01:04:07,410 But now, the 47-year-old is speaking out. 1199 01:04:07,494 --> 01:04:09,327 Reporter 1: Previn told "New York" Magazine, 1200 01:04:09,410 --> 01:04:12,993 quote, "What's happened to Woody is so upsetting, so unjust..." 1201 01:04:13,077 --> 01:04:15,494 We should point out that Woody Allen was present 1202 01:04:15,577 --> 01:04:18,661 for much of that interview, and he weighed in periodically. 1203 01:04:18,744 --> 01:04:21,993 Reporter 2: Soon-Yi says Mia Farrow had a tendency of slapping 1204 01:04:22,077 --> 01:04:25,952 and spanking Soon-Yi or calling her stupid and moronic. 1205 01:04:33,952 --> 01:04:36,369 Reporter: This is a very pointed piece. 1206 01:04:36,452 --> 01:04:38,577 It's out there because Woody Allen 1207 01:04:38,661 --> 01:04:41,410 can't make the movies that he wants to make. 1208 01:04:41,494 --> 01:04:44,202 Actors, actresses are apologizing 1209 01:04:44,285 --> 01:04:45,535 for having worked with him, 1210 01:04:45,619 --> 01:04:46,952 perhaps refusing to work with him. 1211 01:04:47,035 --> 01:04:48,577 It looks like his latest film has been 1212 01:04:48,661 --> 01:04:52,035 put on the shelf. This is a calculated move. 1213 01:04:52,118 --> 01:04:55,243 This is a calculated move in a media war. 1214 01:04:57,118 --> 01:04:59,285 Mia: He's weaponized two of my children 1215 01:04:59,369 --> 01:05:01,535 that he's turned against me. 1216 01:05:01,619 --> 01:05:04,952 They are all people I loved with all my heart. 1217 01:05:05,035 --> 01:05:08,369 All of them. And they're all people that I would have 1218 01:05:08,452 --> 01:05:11,744 laid down my life for. And... 1219 01:05:12,661 --> 01:05:16,243 I love Soon-Yi, you know? 1220 01:05:16,327 --> 01:05:18,452 It took me six years to throw away 1221 01:05:18,535 --> 01:05:20,410 the Christmas stocking I knitted for her, 1222 01:05:20,494 --> 01:05:22,369 thinking she would come back. 1223 01:05:22,452 --> 01:05:24,035 But, she didn't. 1224 01:05:35,077 --> 01:05:37,202 (birds chirping) 1225 01:05:47,494 --> 01:05:49,827 When Dylan wanted to confront it, 1226 01:05:49,911 --> 01:05:52,369 or, you know, Ronan did, or whatever, 1227 01:05:52,452 --> 01:05:56,744 I was always there to say you do what you need to do. 1228 01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:58,993 And I'll be really proud of you, whatever it is. 1229 01:05:59,077 --> 01:06:01,202 If you decide never to talk about it, 1230 01:06:01,285 --> 01:06:02,535 believe me, I understand. 1231 01:06:02,619 --> 01:06:04,744 If you decide you need to talk about it, 1232 01:06:04,827 --> 01:06:06,035 I'm there with you. 1233 01:06:06,118 --> 01:06:08,077 I'm there with you, and I'm super proud. 1234 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,452 If that's part of an evolution, 1235 01:06:10,535 --> 01:06:13,535 oh my gosh, that's wonderful. 1236 01:06:13,619 --> 01:06:15,410 And then I would go, oh! I'm shaking! 1237 01:06:15,494 --> 01:06:17,327 Thinking, "Oh my god, I hope she doesn't." 1238 01:06:17,410 --> 01:06:20,619 'Cause I knew what would come and I'd be so scared. 1239 01:06:20,702 --> 01:06:23,160 You know, I was so scared of him. 1240 01:06:25,035 --> 01:06:27,369 (Amy Ziering speaking) 1241 01:06:31,202 --> 01:06:33,827 I know. That shouldn't go with my really strong package 1242 01:06:33,911 --> 01:06:36,243 that I'd like to present. (laughs) 1243 01:06:41,744 --> 01:06:44,410 I don't know. I'm just scared. 1244 01:06:44,494 --> 01:06:47,619 I'm scared of him, you know, of... 1245 01:06:47,702 --> 01:06:52,744 a person who has no allegiance to truth... 1246 01:06:53,619 --> 01:06:55,077 will do anything. 1247 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,619 A person who will do anything 1248 01:06:56,702 --> 01:06:58,911 is somebody to be scared of. 1249 01:07:00,410 --> 01:07:03,952 And so I worry that when this documentary comes out, 1250 01:07:04,035 --> 01:07:05,827 he will be on the attack again. 1251 01:07:05,911 --> 01:07:09,869 He'll do whatever he has to do to try to save himself, you know? 1252 01:07:10,993 --> 01:07:13,702 From the truths, from the mess he made. 1253 01:07:15,619 --> 01:07:17,661 If I could take it all back, I would. 1254 01:07:17,744 --> 01:07:20,744 I wish I'd never met him, of course. 1255 01:07:20,827 --> 01:07:24,702 That's my great regret of my life. 1256 01:07:24,786 --> 01:07:26,410 To bring somebody like that. 1257 01:07:26,494 --> 01:07:29,077 He should never have been in the family. 1258 01:07:30,369 --> 01:07:33,327 -Hello? -Dylan: Hi there! 1259 01:07:34,993 --> 01:07:36,869 Do you want a cup of coffee? 1260 01:07:36,952 --> 01:07:39,786 -Always. Yes. (laughs) -Yeah. 1261 01:07:39,869 --> 01:07:41,993 I know my daughter. 1262 01:07:42,077 --> 01:07:44,160 Do you want milk or cream? 1263 01:07:44,243 --> 01:07:46,285 -Dylan: You have cream? -No. 1264 01:07:46,369 --> 01:07:48,202 -(laughing) -I thought I did, 1265 01:07:48,285 --> 01:07:50,285 but I don't. 1266 01:07:51,827 --> 01:07:54,827 (muffled chatter) 1267 01:07:54,911 --> 01:07:57,993 ♪ ♪ 1268 01:08:01,452 --> 01:08:04,410 Mia: You know, my mind goes back, like what should I have done? 1269 01:08:04,494 --> 01:08:05,952 And I know what I should've done. 1270 01:08:06,035 --> 01:08:08,452 And then it's why didn't I? 1271 01:08:08,535 --> 01:08:11,661 And then who was I that didn't do those things? 1272 01:08:12,744 --> 01:08:14,452 You know, when I should have, 1273 01:08:14,535 --> 01:08:18,285 and I know that I should have now, you know? 1274 01:08:19,661 --> 01:08:22,160 Do you ever feel angry at me? 1275 01:08:23,452 --> 01:08:27,160 For somehow letting this happen? 1276 01:08:28,243 --> 01:08:29,993 Bringing this person in the house, 1277 01:08:30,077 --> 01:08:32,160 bringing this person into a family. 1278 01:08:39,911 --> 01:08:43,369 You know, you, you, you very easily could have... 1279 01:08:45,035 --> 01:08:47,577 chosen not to believe me. 1280 01:08:47,661 --> 01:08:50,452 To take his word over mine, 1281 01:08:50,535 --> 01:08:52,869 and just, you know, I mean, and I've talked 1282 01:08:52,952 --> 01:08:55,535 to other survivors that say to me, 1283 01:08:55,619 --> 01:08:57,619 "The difference in our story 1284 01:08:57,702 --> 01:09:02,494 "is that my mom... didn't believe me. 1285 01:09:02,577 --> 01:09:06,410 "My mom didn't protect me, and my mom was not there for me. 1286 01:09:06,494 --> 01:09:08,786 She was not willing to fight for me." 1287 01:09:08,869 --> 01:09:10,744 And I, you know, 1288 01:09:10,827 --> 01:09:13,452 whatever other mistakes you made, 1289 01:09:13,535 --> 01:09:15,702 I just feel like... 1290 01:09:16,827 --> 01:09:19,118 you were there when it mattered. 1291 01:09:19,202 --> 01:09:22,327 ♪ ♪ 1292 01:09:30,118 --> 01:09:33,243 (birds chirping) 1293 01:09:36,243 --> 01:09:40,744 So, this is the photo album that I made for my daughter. 1294 01:09:40,827 --> 01:09:42,786 Following in my... 1295 01:09:42,869 --> 01:09:46,744 in my mother's footsteps, I made a photo album. 1296 01:09:48,077 --> 01:09:52,911 I kept all my, um, my cards from my baby shower, 1297 01:09:52,993 --> 01:09:55,118 um, couple of four-leaf clovers that I found 1298 01:09:55,202 --> 01:09:58,744 within a week of each other, um... 1299 01:09:58,827 --> 01:10:01,661 Just, I don't know, maybe, maybe they're good luck. 1300 01:10:01,744 --> 01:10:03,160 (flipping pages) 1301 01:10:03,243 --> 01:10:06,993 Pictures of me all glowing and pregnant and happy. 1302 01:10:10,494 --> 01:10:12,535 The second I found out I was having a little girl, 1303 01:10:12,619 --> 01:10:15,993 I was overjoyed, but I was also terrified. 1304 01:10:17,452 --> 01:10:21,202 (indistinct chatter) 1305 01:10:21,285 --> 01:10:23,786 And there are moments when... 1306 01:10:23,869 --> 01:10:29,535 I look at my daughter, and I see little like flickers 1307 01:10:29,619 --> 01:10:31,786 of little Dylan in her, and... 1308 01:10:33,285 --> 01:10:36,077 I get what my mom did for me. 1309 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:37,577 How hard it was. 1310 01:10:37,661 --> 01:10:40,993 -(birds chirping) -(chattering) 1311 01:10:41,077 --> 01:10:44,077 -(dog barks) -(Mia laughing) 1312 01:10:45,202 --> 01:10:48,118 -Hi! -We came to you... 1313 01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:50,202 we, we came here! 1314 01:10:50,285 --> 01:10:52,327 You came here, you did. 1315 01:10:52,410 --> 01:10:54,577 I'm so glad to see you. 1316 01:10:54,661 --> 01:10:56,452 If Mommy can catch it. 1317 01:10:56,535 --> 01:10:58,327 Look. See what she did? 1318 01:10:58,410 --> 01:10:59,535 (laughter) 1319 01:10:59,619 --> 01:11:02,702 ♪ ♪ 1320 01:11:12,661 --> 01:11:16,327 Dylan: There's so much 1321 01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:19,160 about what I've been through 1322 01:11:19,243 --> 01:11:22,661 that I'll never be able to fully explain. 1323 01:11:25,077 --> 01:11:28,369 I think that the best gift that 1324 01:11:28,452 --> 01:11:31,869 I could've given my daughter is that she has 1325 01:11:31,952 --> 01:11:34,535 a really wonderful father. 1326 01:11:34,619 --> 01:11:36,243 Sean: Let's go. 1327 01:11:40,202 --> 01:11:42,327 You know, honestly, sometimes... 1328 01:11:43,661 --> 01:11:47,911 when I watch my husband and my daughter together, 1329 01:11:47,993 --> 01:11:50,702 I actually feel a little jealous. 1330 01:11:53,744 --> 01:11:55,619 But... 1331 01:11:55,702 --> 01:11:57,118 it's, it's bittersweet 1332 01:11:57,202 --> 01:11:59,369 because I know I'm paying it forward. 1333 01:12:02,577 --> 01:12:05,202 (indistinct) 1334 01:12:06,993 --> 01:12:10,160 (chatter, laughter) 1335 01:12:24,869 --> 01:12:27,952 ♪ ♪ 1336 01:13:22,494 --> 01:13:25,619 ♪ ♪