1 00:00:10,062 --> 00:00:11,813 Where we go one, we go all. 2 00:00:13,771 --> 00:00:15,813 I've stopped believing in coincidences. 3 00:00:19,146 --> 00:00:21,104 The media is just lying to you. 4 00:00:21,938 --> 00:00:23,438 There is a global impact. 5 00:00:23,521 --> 00:00:25,021 They know how crazy it sounds. 6 00:00:25,104 --> 00:00:26,354 We're fighting a war against evil. 7 00:00:26,438 --> 00:00:29,021 Dangerous ideas. That's a scary idea. 8 00:00:29,855 --> 00:00:31,563 There's a tipping point for everybody. 9 00:00:49,438 --> 00:00:50,896 I didn't know the doctor had to report this. 10 00:00:50,980 --> 00:00:52,604 I went just to be sure she was all right, 11 00:00:52,688 --> 00:00:54,354 and she's not all right, Woody! 12 00:00:55,730 --> 00:00:57,187 I received a complaint 13 00:00:57,271 --> 00:01:00,104 about alleged sexual abuse on one Woody Allen. 14 00:01:00,354 --> 00:01:02,354 Woody gave a press conference, 15 00:01:02,438 --> 00:01:04,062 and our jaws dropped. 16 00:01:04,271 --> 00:01:07,396 He's turned it all back and focused on his relationship 17 00:01:07,479 --> 00:01:08,271 with Soon-Yi. 18 00:01:08,479 --> 00:01:09,563 This is a woman scorned. 19 00:01:09,646 --> 00:01:10,688 This is a unhinged woman. 20 00:01:10,938 --> 00:01:13,146 That's Woody's narrative. He's trying to distract. 21 00:01:13,521 --> 00:01:16,021 You brought charges against me as an unfit mother. 22 00:01:16,229 --> 00:01:17,604 And I'm gonna make them stick. 23 00:01:17,688 --> 00:01:19,396 There was no sense that the motivation 24 00:01:19,479 --> 00:01:21,062 was his deep love for these children. 25 00:01:21,271 --> 00:01:24,187 Every little idiosyncrasy was used against me. 26 00:01:24,271 --> 00:01:25,438 Everybody wanted to know 27 00:01:25,521 --> 00:01:27,104 how this was going to end. 28 00:01:27,187 --> 00:01:29,521 I was confident there was probable cause, 29 00:01:29,604 --> 00:01:31,771 but this case hinged on the testimony 30 00:01:31,855 --> 00:01:33,229 of a seven-year-old girl. 31 00:01:53,354 --> 00:01:56,730 At this time, I'd like to read a written decision. 32 00:02:00,438 --> 00:02:04,479 This decision addresses certain sexual assault allegations 33 00:02:04,563 --> 00:02:07,813 surrounding events in Bridgewater, Connecticut, 34 00:02:07,896 --> 00:02:12,146 on August 4th, 1992, involving Mr. Woody Allen. 35 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:14,521 I consider the state police investigation 36 00:02:14,604 --> 00:02:16,813 to be thorough and complete, 37 00:02:16,896 --> 00:02:19,771 and I commend the investigator for their efforts 38 00:02:19,855 --> 00:02:23,563 performed in an atmosphere that was anything but conducive 39 00:02:23,646 --> 00:02:26,813 to a smooth-running investigation. 40 00:02:26,896 --> 00:02:28,688 As to the allegations contained 41 00:02:28,771 --> 00:02:32,396 in the submitted arrest warrant application, 42 00:02:32,479 --> 00:02:35,896 I find that probable cause exists. 43 00:02:37,521 --> 00:02:40,980 The option was clear-- Have Allen arrested, 44 00:02:41,062 --> 00:02:42,521 go to trial ultimately, 45 00:02:42,604 --> 00:02:46,896 and then put the child on the stand as my first witness. 46 00:02:47,021 --> 00:02:51,813 But my concern was the further traumatization of the child. 47 00:02:51,896 --> 00:02:53,855 She had already been through so much. 48 00:02:53,938 --> 00:02:58,938 Was it truly in her best interest to put her on the stand? 49 00:03:04,229 --> 00:03:07,271 This is a story of two of the biggest stars in the world. 50 00:03:07,354 --> 00:03:10,521 The father is Woody Allen-- writer, director, actor. 51 00:03:10,604 --> 00:03:13,479 The mother is Mia Farrow, his frequent costar 52 00:03:13,563 --> 00:03:16,938 and the mother of his three children, two of them adopted. 53 00:03:18,980 --> 00:03:21,187 Woody and Mia have been together for 12 years, 54 00:03:21,271 --> 00:03:24,312 but never married and kept separate residences. 55 00:03:30,646 --> 00:03:32,646 She reportedly has a video 56 00:03:32,730 --> 00:03:33,938 of their adopted daughter Dylan 57 00:03:34,021 --> 00:03:36,813 explaining how Allen molested her. 58 00:03:38,646 --> 00:03:41,312 Allen denies child abuse, but freely admits 59 00:03:41,396 --> 00:03:44,062 he's in love with another of Farrow's daughters, 60 00:03:44,146 --> 00:03:46,312 21-year-old Soon-Yi. 61 00:03:48,479 --> 00:03:50,688 Allen said the newest allegations are 62 00:03:50,771 --> 00:03:53,980 the bizarre concoctions of a woman scorned. 63 00:03:55,980 --> 00:03:58,896 Ms. Farrow's only concern has been exclusively 64 00:03:58,980 --> 00:04:00,896 the protection of her children. 65 00:04:24,104 --> 00:04:26,354 I met with Dylan Farrow 66 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:29,938 in early September of 1993, 67 00:04:30,021 --> 00:04:33,229 in what we considered to be a child-friendly atmosphere. 68 00:04:35,855 --> 00:04:39,021 In my office, we had stuffed animal toys 69 00:04:39,104 --> 00:04:40,771 strewn around the library. 70 00:04:40,855 --> 00:04:44,354 The child was also there with a female state trooper 71 00:04:44,438 --> 00:04:49,062 that she had a fairly good relationship with. 72 00:04:49,146 --> 00:04:52,521 I'm on the floor with Dylan, playing with the toys. 73 00:04:52,604 --> 00:04:56,021 I'm telling her about my son. 74 00:04:56,104 --> 00:04:59,354 After some time, I start questioning her 75 00:04:59,438 --> 00:05:03,438 about her relationship with what I called "Daddy Woody." 76 00:05:05,229 --> 00:05:08,146 She was totally unresponsive. 77 00:05:08,229 --> 00:05:11,980 You could see a glazed look over her eyes. 78 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:15,938 I said, "Tell me what-what-what, about Daddy Woody." 79 00:05:16,021 --> 00:05:17,730 Nothing. Nothing at all. 80 00:05:17,813 --> 00:05:20,396 Complete freezing at that point. 81 00:05:22,771 --> 00:05:25,813 The strongest proponents for prosecution just looked at me, 82 00:05:25,896 --> 00:05:27,813 and we all shrugged our shoulders. 83 00:05:27,896 --> 00:05:30,563 We weren't going anywhere with this child. 84 00:05:31,896 --> 00:05:33,813 I found probable cause. 85 00:05:33,896 --> 00:05:36,730 Yet despite meeting that standard, 86 00:05:36,813 --> 00:05:39,688 and because of the risk of exposing a child complainant 87 00:05:39,771 --> 00:05:42,187 to the rigors, uncertainties, 88 00:05:42,271 --> 00:05:45,396 and possible traumatization of such actions, 89 00:05:45,479 --> 00:05:48,604 accordingly, I am announcing my decision 90 00:05:48,688 --> 00:05:50,896 not to initiate a prosecution. 91 00:05:50,980 --> 00:05:53,521 The case, for all practical purposes, 92 00:05:53,604 --> 00:05:55,104 ended with my decision, 93 00:05:56,187 --> 00:05:58,479 September of '93. 94 00:05:58,563 --> 00:06:01,021 Prosecutor says he will always be available 95 00:06:01,104 --> 00:06:02,354 to Dylan as she grows up 96 00:06:02,438 --> 00:06:06,021 to explain what happened and why he did not press charges. 97 00:06:06,104 --> 00:06:07,980 But one day, Dylan may certainly wonder 98 00:06:08,062 --> 00:06:10,104 if authorities made the right decision 99 00:06:10,187 --> 00:06:12,479 by excusing Woody's alleged behavior 100 00:06:12,563 --> 00:06:15,271 to spare her a public trial. 101 00:06:17,646 --> 00:06:19,479 I did not want more of this. 102 00:06:19,563 --> 00:06:23,646 I didn't want more press, more courts. 103 00:06:23,730 --> 00:06:25,688 I was just glad to have my children. 104 00:06:25,771 --> 00:06:28,146 I just wanted nothing more. 105 00:06:28,229 --> 00:06:32,813 No punishment of Woody would be worth punishing Dylan. 106 00:06:32,896 --> 00:06:36,146 We just needed it to be peaceful again. 107 00:06:39,688 --> 00:06:40,604 -Here? -Yes. 108 00:06:40,688 --> 00:06:42,229 Is there-- is there a light? 109 00:06:42,312 --> 00:06:44,688 -Okay. 110 00:06:46,813 --> 00:06:48,354 Well, here I go. 111 00:06:49,271 --> 00:06:50,646 While... 112 00:06:53,438 --> 00:06:56,354 While one might think that 113 00:06:56,438 --> 00:06:59,438 I would be happy or grateful 114 00:06:59,521 --> 00:07:02,771 over the decision to drop the investigation 115 00:07:02,855 --> 00:07:05,604 by the Connecticut authorities, 116 00:07:05,688 --> 00:07:08,813 I am merely disgusted 117 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:13,021 that my children have been made to suffer unbearably 118 00:07:13,104 --> 00:07:17,271 by the unwholesome alliance between a vindictive mother 119 00:07:17,354 --> 00:07:20,062 and a cowardly, dishonest, irresponsible 120 00:07:20,146 --> 00:07:23,396 state's attorney and his police. 121 00:07:23,479 --> 00:07:26,855 I want to send this message to my little girl. 122 00:07:26,938 --> 00:07:30,730 Don't worry. The dark forces will not prevail. 123 00:07:39,938 --> 00:07:44,521 After the whole custody trial... 124 00:07:44,604 --> 00:07:47,730 my mom stopped having to go to court all the time, 125 00:07:49,479 --> 00:07:52,563 and we moved away from the city. 126 00:07:53,688 --> 00:07:55,521 -Woo! 127 00:07:55,604 --> 00:07:57,563 That was great! 128 00:07:57,646 --> 00:07:59,187 -It was? -Yes! 129 00:07:59,271 --> 00:08:01,646 -Hey, come and do your handstand! -Wait, Mama, 130 00:08:01,730 --> 00:08:03,479 -I want you to see something. -Okay. 131 00:08:03,563 --> 00:08:06,146 And there was sort of a grace period 132 00:08:06,229 --> 00:08:07,813 where I thought, "Okay. 133 00:08:07,896 --> 00:08:09,980 This is great. I can start over." 134 00:08:12,438 --> 00:08:16,354 We never talked about Soon-Yi or Woody. 135 00:08:18,896 --> 00:08:22,646 But, there was a long period of guilt for me. 136 00:08:26,438 --> 00:08:29,187 I felt like I had 137 00:08:29,271 --> 00:08:31,646 caused a rift in my family. 138 00:08:33,104 --> 00:08:38,187 I felt if I just, you know, kept, kept his secret that 139 00:08:38,271 --> 00:08:42,021 I could've spared my mom all this grief 140 00:08:42,104 --> 00:08:45,104 and my brothers and sisters, myself. 141 00:08:46,646 --> 00:08:48,604 I mean, 142 00:08:48,688 --> 00:08:51,813 none of my older siblings were ever the same. 143 00:08:53,938 --> 00:08:57,021 How you feeling, Daisy? 144 00:08:57,104 --> 00:09:00,229 I just remember my family was turned upside down. 145 00:09:01,104 --> 00:09:03,146 We were all devastated. 146 00:09:03,229 --> 00:09:05,354 It was a sad time. 147 00:09:06,688 --> 00:09:08,855 I think most of us tried to just kinda 148 00:09:08,938 --> 00:09:11,438 get through with our lives. 149 00:09:11,521 --> 00:09:14,563 Kids! Fletcher is leaving for college! 150 00:09:14,646 --> 00:09:17,062 Come say good-bye! 151 00:09:17,146 --> 00:09:19,062 We were a tight family unit, 152 00:09:19,146 --> 00:09:20,646 and, um... 153 00:09:21,229 --> 00:09:23,229 uh... 154 00:09:23,312 --> 00:09:26,396 that was much less so the case after this. 155 00:09:26,479 --> 00:09:29,688 People went into survival mode. 156 00:09:29,771 --> 00:09:32,104 It was just a really difficult time for everybody. 157 00:09:32,813 --> 00:09:34,855 Especially Dylan. 158 00:09:36,521 --> 00:09:39,021 Well, Santa didn't forget you, did he? 159 00:09:39,104 --> 00:09:40,980 -Nope! -We used to have one of these. 160 00:09:41,062 --> 00:09:44,396 When she was growing up, she was sullen 161 00:09:44,479 --> 00:09:48,396 and anxiety-riddled, like, riddled with anxiety. 162 00:09:48,479 --> 00:09:51,438 I mean, I was younger, but even then, 163 00:09:51,521 --> 00:09:55,104 the signs of her being depressed were obvious. 164 00:09:55,187 --> 00:09:56,771 What are you doing with that? 165 00:09:56,855 --> 00:09:58,896 Taking your picture. 166 00:09:58,980 --> 00:10:00,604 She was always hidden away, 167 00:10:00,688 --> 00:10:04,062 writing her stories or she was drawing and... 168 00:10:04,146 --> 00:10:07,980 She kept to herself a lot. 169 00:10:08,062 --> 00:10:10,146 So I didn't feel the right to ask 170 00:10:10,229 --> 00:10:12,521 or I didn't think it was my place, so... 171 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:16,604 The only reason I even knew 172 00:10:16,688 --> 00:10:19,396 about anything that had happened is from 173 00:10:19,479 --> 00:10:22,771 the news and media and that's it. 174 00:10:22,855 --> 00:10:25,938 And it was kind of like a Voldemort situation. 175 00:10:26,062 --> 00:10:28,104 "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named" situation. 176 00:10:28,187 --> 00:10:29,438 He was never brought up. 177 00:10:31,104 --> 00:10:33,187 Growing up, I never spoke about it 178 00:10:33,271 --> 00:10:36,021 with any of my siblings. 179 00:10:40,229 --> 00:10:41,604 None of them asked. 180 00:10:44,730 --> 00:10:47,813 You know, they all went through their own gauntlet 181 00:10:47,896 --> 00:10:50,312 of emotions over this. 182 00:10:52,730 --> 00:10:54,688 Mia and children: Is she 7? Is she 8? 183 00:10:54,771 --> 00:10:56,938 Is she 9? Is she 10? 184 00:10:57,021 --> 00:11:00,312 Is she 11? Is she 12? Is she 13? 185 00:11:00,396 --> 00:11:03,271 Is she 14? Yay, 14! 186 00:11:06,021 --> 00:11:08,146 I spent a lot 187 00:11:08,229 --> 00:11:11,396 of high school feeling like 188 00:11:11,479 --> 00:11:14,771 there was something fundamentally wrong with me. 189 00:11:16,688 --> 00:11:19,104 I felt like I was the only person 190 00:11:19,187 --> 00:11:21,062 that this had ever happened to. 191 00:11:22,688 --> 00:11:25,396 I was completely isolated. 192 00:11:26,688 --> 00:11:30,396 You know, I was hiding a part of myself that... 193 00:11:31,479 --> 00:11:36,229 um, I really should've been honest about. 194 00:11:36,312 --> 00:11:39,563 I could've had healthier relationships 195 00:11:39,646 --> 00:11:42,271 with friends, with men, 196 00:11:42,354 --> 00:11:45,354 with my siblings. 197 00:11:45,438 --> 00:11:48,646 I didn't even speak about it in any depth with my mom. 198 00:11:50,146 --> 00:11:52,187 Even with my therapist. 199 00:11:54,479 --> 00:11:57,896 I had literally one boyfriend 200 00:11:57,980 --> 00:11:59,229 in high school, 201 00:11:59,312 --> 00:12:02,479 and that lasted three weeks. 202 00:12:04,062 --> 00:12:06,730 I just remember listening to some of the other girls 203 00:12:06,813 --> 00:12:08,396 in my class talk about the things 204 00:12:08,479 --> 00:12:11,438 they were doing with boys, and thinking, 205 00:12:11,521 --> 00:12:13,980 "Oh my god. At some point... 206 00:12:15,187 --> 00:12:17,146 he's gonna want this." 207 00:12:17,229 --> 00:12:20,813 And that was terrifying. 208 00:12:21,980 --> 00:12:23,271 So I broke up with him. 209 00:12:23,354 --> 00:12:26,563 And it was a relationship I wanted. 210 00:12:26,646 --> 00:12:30,062 - Yes. -Breaking up with a certain person? 211 00:12:30,146 --> 00:12:33,187 -Is that what you were doing? -Yes. 212 00:12:33,271 --> 00:12:35,187 So how do you feel? 213 00:12:35,271 --> 00:12:37,896 -Very liberated. -Good for you. 214 00:12:37,980 --> 00:12:41,730 -Yeah. I feel kind of bad for him though. -Aw. 215 00:12:42,563 --> 00:12:44,521 What made you do it? 216 00:12:44,604 --> 00:12:47,688 I just needed more space, more time. 217 00:12:48,938 --> 00:12:50,771 So what's the next plan? 218 00:12:50,855 --> 00:12:52,479 What are your priorities? 219 00:13:04,896 --> 00:13:07,229 Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Woody Allen. 220 00:13:26,563 --> 00:13:28,438 -Thank you. 221 00:13:30,187 --> 00:13:32,855 Could I ask you about the crisis 222 00:13:32,938 --> 00:13:36,730 that you had recently in your life regarding your wife Soon-Yi 223 00:13:36,813 --> 00:13:39,980 and all the surrounding stories that were about that? 224 00:13:40,062 --> 00:13:44,521 Did that have an effect on your perception within America? 225 00:13:44,604 --> 00:13:46,271 I mean, did it make you less popular? 226 00:13:46,354 --> 00:13:48,479 Did it have an effect on your work? Did it affect your mood? 227 00:13:48,563 --> 00:13:50,646 No, it was an interesting thing. Um... 228 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:53,855 I had always been unpopular. 229 00:13:53,938 --> 00:13:56,855 -And... 230 00:13:56,938 --> 00:14:00,271 when I was going through public, uh... 231 00:14:00,354 --> 00:14:03,479 talk about my life, my private life, 232 00:14:03,563 --> 00:14:07,396 all it did, those people that had never liked me 233 00:14:07,479 --> 00:14:09,021 reconfirmed it. They said, 234 00:14:09,104 --> 00:14:12,062 "I always knew he was a terrible little cockroach 235 00:14:12,146 --> 00:14:14,813 -and this proves it." 236 00:14:14,896 --> 00:14:18,354 Those people that like me continue to like me. 237 00:14:18,438 --> 00:14:20,688 You know, it was of no consequence. 238 00:14:21,938 --> 00:14:23,855 Apart from not going out in public 239 00:14:23,938 --> 00:14:25,604 without a fake nose and glasses, 240 00:14:25,688 --> 00:14:29,271 I simply went about my business and worked. 241 00:14:31,271 --> 00:14:34,146 Being innocent, I felt it's not my problem. 242 00:14:34,229 --> 00:14:35,646 Let them carry on. 243 00:14:35,730 --> 00:14:38,146 I'm not gonna sacrifice precious work time 244 00:14:38,229 --> 00:14:40,229 over a bad call. 245 00:14:40,312 --> 00:14:43,563 Their high-profile affair stunned the public 246 00:14:43,646 --> 00:14:45,730 and became grist for the tabloids. 247 00:14:45,813 --> 00:14:48,813 Now, actor and film director Woody Allen 248 00:14:48,896 --> 00:14:52,229 and his long-time girlfriend Soon-Yi Previn 249 00:14:52,312 --> 00:14:53,855 are husband and wife. 250 00:14:53,938 --> 00:14:57,604 The 62-year-old Allen and 27-year-old Previn 251 00:14:57,688 --> 00:14:58,855 were married Tuesday 252 00:14:58,938 --> 00:15:01,563 at a small, secret wedding in Venice, Italy. 253 00:15:01,646 --> 00:15:05,563 -Yes, you're right. It's me. 254 00:15:05,646 --> 00:15:08,187 It's me. You've seen me in those films. I'm the guy. 255 00:15:10,229 --> 00:15:12,229 -Hi, fellas. Don't get too excited. 256 00:15:12,312 --> 00:15:15,021 -I come here a few times a year. 257 00:15:29,229 --> 00:15:33,021 -Mm-hmm. I did, um, but... -Yes. 258 00:15:33,104 --> 00:15:35,855 I never brought them home because... 259 00:15:36,855 --> 00:15:38,354 I just... 260 00:15:39,688 --> 00:15:42,354 didn't wanna risk anybody 261 00:15:42,438 --> 00:15:45,563 falling for one of my beautiful children or grandchildren. 262 00:15:45,646 --> 00:15:49,271 If I couldn't trust Woody after 12 years, 263 00:15:49,354 --> 00:15:50,521 how would I... 264 00:15:50,604 --> 00:15:54,104 I would never take another risk with anybody else. 265 00:15:54,187 --> 00:15:57,438 I don't know. I don't trust myself to know. 266 00:15:57,521 --> 00:15:59,479 How would you know? 267 00:15:59,563 --> 00:16:02,688 I don't know. So I never brought them home. 268 00:16:05,980 --> 00:16:08,479 Want the box open, honey? 269 00:16:08,563 --> 00:16:11,396 Wow, his front tooth. 270 00:16:11,479 --> 00:16:13,980 He lost it. What do you have to say about it? 271 00:16:14,062 --> 00:16:17,312 -How does it feel? -Great! 272 00:16:17,396 --> 00:16:19,271 My mother did such a good job 273 00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:20,855 of shielding us from all of this. 274 00:16:20,938 --> 00:16:24,021 She went above and beyond to never say 275 00:16:24,104 --> 00:16:27,646 anything that would be construed as critical of my father 276 00:16:27,730 --> 00:16:30,271 or pushing us to think or say one thing or another. 277 00:16:30,354 --> 00:16:35,438 She really just tried to distance us and shield us. 278 00:16:35,521 --> 00:16:37,855 But, for all of us growing up, 279 00:16:37,938 --> 00:16:40,021 there was always a lot of incentive 280 00:16:40,104 --> 00:16:42,855 to be drawn into Woody Allen's efforts 281 00:16:42,938 --> 00:16:46,229 to discredit my sister. 282 00:16:46,312 --> 00:16:50,146 For example, he made funding my college education 283 00:16:50,229 --> 00:16:52,396 contingent on me 284 00:16:52,479 --> 00:16:55,479 speaking out in his support publicly. 285 00:16:55,563 --> 00:16:58,521 The offer always stood that if I were willing to publicly 286 00:16:58,604 --> 00:17:00,813 go against my mother and my sister, 287 00:17:00,896 --> 00:17:03,396 that he would offer financial support, 288 00:17:03,479 --> 00:17:05,021 support for my education, 289 00:17:05,104 --> 00:17:07,855 and perhaps, you know, a comfortable life 290 00:17:07,938 --> 00:17:12,104 with a powerful, influential guy. 291 00:17:13,938 --> 00:17:16,104 I think it was hugely derailing 292 00:17:16,187 --> 00:17:17,396 for my mom, 293 00:17:17,479 --> 00:17:19,938 personally and professionally. 294 00:17:20,021 --> 00:17:22,688 I think it's pretty devastating if you build a life with somebody 295 00:17:22,771 --> 00:17:24,438 and have a large family, and then, 296 00:17:24,521 --> 00:17:27,771 turns out that everything you thought was true was not true. 297 00:17:29,855 --> 00:17:32,938 Nobody really wanted to hire me except in other countries. 298 00:17:33,021 --> 00:17:35,354 I think slightly this way, yeah. 299 00:17:35,438 --> 00:17:36,896 I got offered movies 300 00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:39,479 in Ireland and in France. 301 00:17:39,563 --> 00:17:41,730 So I took every job I could. 302 00:17:41,813 --> 00:17:44,479 Woody told me I would never work again in this country. 303 00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:46,688 I didn't know-- Yeah. He said, 304 00:17:46,771 --> 00:17:50,187 "No one will ever hire you again." 305 00:17:50,271 --> 00:17:53,730 But then, UNICEF invited me to come on board with them 306 00:17:53,813 --> 00:17:55,479 on the issue of polio. 307 00:17:55,563 --> 00:17:58,896 Polio eradication means a lot to me personally. 308 00:17:58,980 --> 00:18:02,646 I was afflicted with polio as a child. 309 00:18:02,730 --> 00:18:04,813 And then, they made me an ambassador, 310 00:18:04,896 --> 00:18:06,312 and then I said I wanna go to Darfur 311 00:18:06,396 --> 00:18:08,646 because there was a genocide unfolding there. 312 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:11,813 If you can leave people with one image of what you want people to know, 313 00:18:11,896 --> 00:18:13,813 -what would that be? -Two and a half million people 314 00:18:13,896 --> 00:18:15,855 have been driven out of their villages 315 00:18:15,938 --> 00:18:18,980 and are forced to live amidst deplorable conditions 316 00:18:19,062 --> 00:18:20,896 in these refugee camps. 317 00:18:20,980 --> 00:18:23,604 It was just deeply meaningful work. 318 00:18:23,688 --> 00:18:26,021 And that became completely consuming. 319 00:18:30,563 --> 00:18:34,312 We need the political will to act now. 320 00:18:34,396 --> 00:18:39,271 We need moral leadership to act now. 321 00:18:39,354 --> 00:18:42,604 Live from the Kodak Theater at Hollywood and Highland... 322 00:18:44,021 --> 00:18:47,104 Welcome to the 74th Annual Academy Awards. 323 00:19:00,855 --> 00:19:03,980 Let me tell you why I'm here exactly. 324 00:19:04,062 --> 00:19:06,438 About four weeks ago, 325 00:19:06,521 --> 00:19:09,521 I was sitting home in my apartment in New York, 326 00:19:09,604 --> 00:19:13,521 and the phone rang, and a voice on the other end said, 327 00:19:13,604 --> 00:19:17,229 "This is the Motion Picture Academy of Arts and Sciences." 328 00:19:17,312 --> 00:19:20,229 And I panicked immediately 329 00:19:20,312 --> 00:19:24,104 because I thought that they wanted their Oscars back. 330 00:19:24,187 --> 00:19:26,604 -Tell me why we're all 331 00:19:26,688 --> 00:19:28,521 so fascinated by Woody Allen. 332 00:19:28,604 --> 00:19:31,688 Is it just talent or is it something else? 333 00:19:31,771 --> 00:19:33,438 -Good writing, good directing. -Right. 334 00:19:33,521 --> 00:19:36,521 -You usually get a really good movie at the end of it. -Yeah. 335 00:19:36,604 --> 00:19:39,187 -He has a mystique to him, you know? -Right. 336 00:19:39,271 --> 00:19:41,187 And actors love him because he trusts them. 337 00:19:41,271 --> 00:19:43,980 -I'm in debt 338 00:19:44,062 --> 00:19:46,104 to my loyal friend 339 00:19:46,187 --> 00:19:48,980 and, uh, remarkable artist, Woody Allen. 340 00:19:49,062 --> 00:19:52,187 Thank you for having written over all these years 341 00:19:52,271 --> 00:19:55,688 some of the greatest characters for women. 342 00:19:55,771 --> 00:19:58,688 For any actor, it's always an extraordinary experience 343 00:19:58,771 --> 00:20:02,146 to have the chance to work those dialogues. 344 00:20:02,229 --> 00:20:05,855 I feel very lucky to be sitting on this couch 345 00:20:05,938 --> 00:20:09,688 with, with a, a proven genius. 346 00:20:09,771 --> 00:20:13,396 We have this idea of the genius, 347 00:20:13,479 --> 00:20:16,229 the artist, the doer, the person who's making things happen 348 00:20:16,312 --> 00:20:18,146 and they're controlling the narrative, 349 00:20:18,229 --> 00:20:21,104 and we wanna align with that and we wanna believe in it. 350 00:20:21,187 --> 00:20:23,479 We wanna identify with these characters. 351 00:20:23,563 --> 00:20:27,604 We spend our lives listening to their side of the story. 352 00:20:27,688 --> 00:20:31,730 We wanna be next to power. We wanna be next to the winner. 353 00:20:31,813 --> 00:20:33,813 Woody Allen is someone who 354 00:20:33,896 --> 00:20:37,104 we accept as kind of this philosopher. 355 00:20:37,187 --> 00:20:39,479 And if we hear anything troubling about a person 356 00:20:39,563 --> 00:20:41,771 that sort of might've, uh, 357 00:20:41,855 --> 00:20:43,938 informed our values at all, 358 00:20:44,021 --> 00:20:45,563 we're not gonna wanna believe it. 359 00:20:45,646 --> 00:20:47,980 I think so much of this is about our willingness 360 00:20:48,062 --> 00:20:52,438 to not know the things so that we don't have to deal with it. 361 00:20:52,521 --> 00:20:55,354 When you're forced to see, when you're forced to know... 362 00:20:56,855 --> 00:20:58,646 it's so dispiriting. 363 00:20:58,730 --> 00:21:00,938 It's so hopeless. It's so uncomfortable. 364 00:21:01,021 --> 00:21:03,312 It's just easier, right? 365 00:21:03,396 --> 00:21:05,771 To opt out and to go back. 366 00:21:05,855 --> 00:21:07,521 -What? -The movie, your movie? 367 00:21:07,604 --> 00:21:09,938 The French have seen your movie in Paris, 368 00:21:10,021 --> 00:21:13,730 and they say it's the greatest American film in 50 years! 369 00:21:13,813 --> 00:21:15,396 -You're kidding. -No, no, no! 370 00:21:15,479 --> 00:21:17,396 You're being hailed as a true artist! 371 00:21:17,479 --> 00:21:20,146 There's an additional layer of distortion 372 00:21:20,229 --> 00:21:23,104 when this kind of an allegation is raised against someone who is 373 00:21:23,187 --> 00:21:26,104 not just beloved in a traditional sense, 374 00:21:26,187 --> 00:21:28,062 but beloved in a way where people 375 00:21:28,146 --> 00:21:30,438 have an identity association with it. 376 00:21:30,521 --> 00:21:34,146 Where it's existential to them that they grew up loving Woody Allen. 377 00:21:34,229 --> 00:21:37,980 You see it with a lot of fans of individuals who are accused 378 00:21:38,062 --> 00:21:40,479 of terrible and serious things in a credible way. 379 00:21:40,563 --> 00:21:43,104 About two hours ago, Michael Jackson was arrested 380 00:21:43,187 --> 00:21:44,813 on child molestation charges. 381 00:21:44,896 --> 00:21:48,062 I think it's just all fabricated. It's lies. 382 00:21:48,146 --> 00:21:50,479 It makes me cross, makes me very angry. 383 00:21:50,563 --> 00:21:51,813 There have been a lot of people that, 384 00:21:51,896 --> 00:21:53,396 once they do research and they look into 385 00:21:53,479 --> 00:21:54,813 what the truth really was, 386 00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:57,396 they finally understand what happened to Michael Jackson. 387 00:21:57,479 --> 00:22:00,312 I think the public has a great deal of trouble 388 00:22:00,396 --> 00:22:04,187 believing that someone they like 389 00:22:04,271 --> 00:22:05,521 could be a sex offender. 390 00:22:05,604 --> 00:22:08,896 The public is very harsh towards sex offenders, 391 00:22:08,980 --> 00:22:12,604 as long as they are over there and unlikable. 392 00:22:12,688 --> 00:22:14,604 Bill Cosby was my boyhood mentor. 393 00:22:14,688 --> 00:22:16,730 -There was no one bigger. -Mm-hmm. 394 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:19,354 Over a dozen women have come forward, 395 00:22:19,438 --> 00:22:21,646 alleging that they've been raped by the legendary comic. 396 00:22:21,730 --> 00:22:23,896 So watching this play out over the last few years, 397 00:22:23,980 --> 00:22:27,021 -for a lot of folks, it's very, very difficult. -Mm-hmm. 398 00:22:27,104 --> 00:22:30,563 The kind of attachment that people get to celebrities, 399 00:22:30,646 --> 00:22:34,688 it's a little like the attachment they have to a family member, 400 00:22:34,771 --> 00:22:36,521 just projected on someone that 401 00:22:36,604 --> 00:22:38,855 they've never actually spoken to. 402 00:22:38,938 --> 00:22:40,646 Roman Polanski became famous 403 00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:43,312 as the director of such classics as "Chinatown." 404 00:22:43,396 --> 00:22:45,688 He has been infamous for having sex 405 00:22:45,771 --> 00:22:46,938 with a 13-year-old girl. 406 00:22:47,021 --> 00:22:51,479 People get very invested in that person's persona, 407 00:22:51,563 --> 00:22:53,563 and they trust them. 408 00:22:53,646 --> 00:22:56,563 People don't give up trust easily. 409 00:22:56,646 --> 00:22:58,980 This director who raped a 13-year-old. 410 00:22:59,062 --> 00:23:00,688 He didn't rape a 13-year-old. 411 00:23:00,771 --> 00:23:02,730 -It was statutory rape, alright? -Alright. 412 00:23:02,813 --> 00:23:05,104 Well so, why do you side with him? 413 00:23:05,187 --> 00:23:08,438 Because I-- his version sounds more likely. 414 00:23:12,062 --> 00:23:14,855 She wasn't unschooled in sexual matters. 415 00:23:15,896 --> 00:23:18,771 She was consenting and willing. 416 00:23:18,855 --> 00:23:20,646 So then, you have sex against your will. 417 00:23:20,730 --> 00:23:24,146 -This is not consensual. -This is not consensual. I was, "No, no." 418 00:23:25,521 --> 00:23:27,479 If you are powerful, 419 00:23:27,563 --> 00:23:30,187 celebrities, rich men, 420 00:23:30,271 --> 00:23:33,396 people are more likely to believe your denials. 421 00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:37,104 You are nearly impossible to prosecute. 422 00:23:37,187 --> 00:23:39,479 But what's the position now 423 00:23:39,563 --> 00:23:41,813 with regard to, to your children? 424 00:23:41,896 --> 00:23:43,563 I'm still-- I still don't 425 00:23:43,646 --> 00:23:46,146 -see my daughter. I... -Oh. 426 00:23:46,229 --> 00:23:49,479 I left her. She threw her arms around me, 427 00:23:49,563 --> 00:23:52,062 uh, and gave me a list of presents to, 428 00:23:52,146 --> 00:23:54,521 to bring back to her the next day I was gonna see her, 429 00:23:54,604 --> 00:23:56,187 which was two days later, 430 00:23:56,271 --> 00:23:59,396 and she was 7 years old then. 431 00:23:59,479 --> 00:24:02,980 And we were, you know, close, and she was crazy about me, 432 00:24:03,062 --> 00:24:05,354 and I was crazy about her. Am, still, of course. 433 00:24:05,438 --> 00:24:08,354 And I have not been able to see her. 434 00:24:16,855 --> 00:24:19,521 Luna! See this? 435 00:24:22,062 --> 00:24:24,688 -Go get it! -She going for it? 436 00:24:24,771 --> 00:24:26,479 -Nope. 437 00:24:26,563 --> 00:24:28,771 These dogs don't hunt. 438 00:24:28,855 --> 00:24:30,062 She used to. 439 00:24:30,146 --> 00:24:31,771 She used to be more interested in toys, 440 00:24:31,855 --> 00:24:33,980 but now you're older and wiser. 441 00:24:36,730 --> 00:24:39,146 When we first met, we were both at like 442 00:24:39,229 --> 00:24:42,604 pivotal dating moments in our lives where we were both 443 00:24:42,688 --> 00:24:45,021 looking for something serious at the same time. 444 00:24:45,104 --> 00:24:48,646 I was going on The Onion for satire purposes, 445 00:24:48,730 --> 00:24:51,563 and I saw they had a dating site 446 00:24:51,646 --> 00:24:54,146 powered by OKCupid, and I'm like, why not? 447 00:24:54,229 --> 00:24:56,229 Maybe I'll find someone funny. 448 00:24:56,312 --> 00:24:58,604 I put this ultra, 449 00:24:58,688 --> 00:25:02,021 very honest post up-- 450 00:25:02,104 --> 00:25:03,271 profile up there, 451 00:25:03,354 --> 00:25:05,396 saying I'm a geek, but you can take me out in public. 452 00:25:05,479 --> 00:25:07,688 I shower, I promise. You know? 453 00:25:07,771 --> 00:25:10,021 And within the first day, I got this 454 00:25:10,104 --> 00:25:12,896 really surprising message from this 455 00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:16,312 really smokin' hot girl with this burgundy bob, 456 00:25:16,396 --> 00:25:19,021 and this cute little chin, and I was like-- 457 00:25:19,104 --> 00:25:21,646 And it said, "You didn't mention you were a cute geek." 458 00:25:21,730 --> 00:25:24,688 And I'm like, oh. Oh my. 459 00:25:24,771 --> 00:25:26,688 -Um... -It's like the first and last time 460 00:25:26,771 --> 00:25:28,771 I've ever flirted with someone. 461 00:25:28,855 --> 00:25:31,104 Yeah, but you knocked it out of the park. That's a win. 462 00:25:31,187 --> 00:25:33,980 Yeah, it just, I felt... 463 00:25:34,062 --> 00:25:37,896 really, um, connected to him really quickly. 464 00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:40,771 I had never connected with anyone like that before. 465 00:25:44,980 --> 00:25:48,312 At first, when we first started dating and we first started, 466 00:25:48,396 --> 00:25:51,604 you know, going into the natural intimacies of dating, 467 00:25:51,688 --> 00:25:54,229 I had no idea about, uh, 468 00:25:54,312 --> 00:25:56,312 about her past in that way. 469 00:25:57,646 --> 00:26:00,604 It didn't really come up until, 470 00:26:00,688 --> 00:26:02,688 one day, um, 471 00:26:02,771 --> 00:26:04,396 we were just having some fun, 472 00:26:04,479 --> 00:26:07,688 and suddenly, 473 00:26:07,771 --> 00:26:09,062 uh, she tensed up. 474 00:26:09,146 --> 00:26:11,062 She just really tensed up. 475 00:26:11,146 --> 00:26:14,688 And then immediately just started crying uncontrollably. 476 00:26:14,771 --> 00:26:17,312 And it turned out that I had, 477 00:26:17,396 --> 00:26:20,271 inadvertently, triggered something. 478 00:26:20,354 --> 00:26:22,229 And a lot of it was based on actually 479 00:26:22,312 --> 00:26:23,771 her lying down on her stomach 480 00:26:23,855 --> 00:26:26,187 because it's the same position she was in in the attic. 481 00:26:26,271 --> 00:26:27,563 Yeah. 482 00:26:30,354 --> 00:26:33,688 I didn't think of myself as an incest survivor. 483 00:26:34,604 --> 00:26:35,730 Um... 484 00:26:37,855 --> 00:26:39,479 I... 485 00:26:39,563 --> 00:26:42,021 you know, I, I heard about... 486 00:26:43,354 --> 00:26:46,896 you know, like, rape in the news. 487 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,771 And it was just something that... 488 00:26:49,855 --> 00:26:52,938 happened to other people, 489 00:26:53,021 --> 00:26:56,521 and it was much worse than what I'd been through. 490 00:26:56,604 --> 00:26:58,771 I really had no right to complain 491 00:26:58,855 --> 00:27:02,980 about anything that had happened to me because it wasn't... 492 00:27:03,062 --> 00:27:07,563 it didn't fall neatly into a specific category, um. 493 00:27:09,438 --> 00:27:11,771 I just, I mean... 494 00:27:11,855 --> 00:27:14,563 I'm like shaking, talking about this. 495 00:27:20,062 --> 00:27:21,730 Um... 496 00:27:25,521 --> 00:27:28,187 Wow, that was weird. I got like... 497 00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:31,563 shaky for a second. 498 00:27:34,521 --> 00:27:36,396 Yeah, I just need like a second. 499 00:27:46,521 --> 00:27:49,646 My jaw is shaking. I'm sorry. 500 00:27:52,438 --> 00:27:55,980 I don't know. I don't know, I'm just... 501 00:27:56,062 --> 00:27:57,771 -I think it's just 502 00:27:57,855 --> 00:28:00,896 -a physical reaction to the whole thing. -My jaw is chattering. 503 00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:03,938 I'm not cold. I'm not cold, I just... 504 00:28:30,771 --> 00:28:32,187 There was a period of time 505 00:28:32,271 --> 00:28:33,730 in which my sister was saying, 506 00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:36,521 "Look, I have consistently told this story for years, 507 00:28:36,604 --> 00:28:38,104 "and no one is listening. 508 00:28:38,187 --> 00:28:39,896 And I wanna go public with it again." 509 00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:41,896 I said, "This is not worth it. 510 00:28:41,980 --> 00:28:44,604 "You are going to make your entire life an identity 511 00:28:44,688 --> 00:28:47,563 about this one thing that happened to you as a kid." 512 00:28:47,646 --> 00:28:49,604 I hadn't yet thoroughly interviewed her 513 00:28:49,688 --> 00:28:52,896 or looked at the facts. I just wanted to run away from this. 514 00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:55,146 By then, I was a public figure in the media, 515 00:28:55,229 --> 00:28:57,396 and all I wanted was for it to go away. 516 00:28:57,479 --> 00:28:58,980 Ronan Farrow spent several years 517 00:28:59,062 --> 00:29:00,396 working at the State Department, 518 00:29:00,479 --> 00:29:02,688 including in the Office of the Special Representative 519 00:29:02,771 --> 00:29:04,396 for Afghanistan and Pakistan. 520 00:29:04,479 --> 00:29:06,229 Ronan Farrow joins us at the table. 521 00:29:06,312 --> 00:29:07,688 Ronan, good morning. 522 00:29:07,771 --> 00:29:10,521 -Such a pleasure to be here, guys. -Great to have you. 523 00:29:10,604 --> 00:29:13,312 I spent years of my life trying to 524 00:29:13,396 --> 00:29:15,271 build my own career and reputation 525 00:29:15,354 --> 00:29:17,855 and do work that I cared about and believed in, 526 00:29:17,938 --> 00:29:21,438 and wanting to avoid questions about this. 527 00:29:21,521 --> 00:29:24,271 She and I had knock-down, drag-out fights 528 00:29:24,354 --> 00:29:25,938 where I essentially told her to shut up. 529 00:29:26,021 --> 00:29:28,938 Where I said, "We're just clearing 20 years out," 530 00:29:29,021 --> 00:29:30,938 or whatever it was at that point. 531 00:29:31,021 --> 00:29:33,104 "For God's sake, just leave it behind." 532 00:29:33,187 --> 00:29:35,396 He asked me, point blank for the first time, 533 00:29:35,479 --> 00:29:38,604 he said, "What, what happened to you?" 534 00:29:38,688 --> 00:29:41,813 And he was obviously very, um, 535 00:29:41,896 --> 00:29:43,604 he was very sensitive about it. He's like, 536 00:29:43,688 --> 00:29:45,938 "You don't have to tell me if you don't want to." 537 00:29:46,021 --> 00:29:48,730 But, um, he, he asked me and... 538 00:29:49,938 --> 00:29:52,646 and so I shared it with him. 539 00:29:53,479 --> 00:29:55,896 The whole-- everything. 540 00:29:56,396 --> 00:29:58,813 And, um... 541 00:29:58,896 --> 00:30:02,688 after I was done, there was a long silence, and... 542 00:30:04,271 --> 00:30:07,646 he just started crying. 543 00:30:07,730 --> 00:30:10,730 She was incredibly brave about saying, "No. 544 00:30:10,813 --> 00:30:13,646 "This is the truth. I have never changed my story. 545 00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:15,312 "There is evidence on my side. 546 00:30:15,396 --> 00:30:18,479 If you actually read these court documents, you'll see that." 547 00:30:18,563 --> 00:30:20,730 And I did, for the first time, as an adult, 548 00:30:20,813 --> 00:30:23,271 as a journalist, as an attorney. 549 00:30:23,354 --> 00:30:27,479 I read the court documents and my reaction was, 550 00:30:27,563 --> 00:30:29,396 well, holy shit. I've been turning away 551 00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:31,688 from a real miscarriage of justice here. 552 00:30:34,104 --> 00:30:38,104 And now, ladies and gentlemen, Diane Keaton. 553 00:30:43,354 --> 00:30:47,021 Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. 554 00:30:48,688 --> 00:30:52,229 Well, I think it's safe to say that 555 00:30:52,312 --> 00:30:54,354 Woody Allen is an anomaly. 556 00:30:54,438 --> 00:30:57,855 He's made 74 movies in 48 years. 557 00:30:57,938 --> 00:31:00,563 He's directed them, he's starred in them, 558 00:31:00,646 --> 00:31:04,438 he's produced them, and, of course, he's written them. 559 00:31:04,521 --> 00:31:07,187 He's written all of them, every one. 560 00:31:07,271 --> 00:31:10,312 I wasn't even watching the Golden Globes, 561 00:31:10,396 --> 00:31:12,521 and all of a sudden, my phone started blowing up, 562 00:31:12,604 --> 00:31:14,062 and people were saying, 563 00:31:14,146 --> 00:31:18,146 "I'm so sorry. You shouldn't have to go through this." 564 00:31:18,229 --> 00:31:21,354 And then I saw what they were talking about. 565 00:31:21,438 --> 00:31:25,688 The feature, for me anyway, that sets Woody's writing apart 566 00:31:25,771 --> 00:31:28,688 are the voices of four decades 567 00:31:28,771 --> 00:31:30,896 of unforgettable female characters, 568 00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:34,146 -starting with la-dee-da Annie Hall... -And, um... 569 00:31:37,688 --> 00:31:39,312 I had a panic attack, 570 00:31:40,438 --> 00:31:42,396 and I felt 571 00:31:42,479 --> 00:31:45,855 so... small. 572 00:31:45,938 --> 00:31:49,563 A genius who takes chances and never compromises his vision. 573 00:31:49,646 --> 00:31:53,021 A filmmaker who fills his movies with wry observation, 574 00:31:53,104 --> 00:31:54,730 frequently painful truth, 575 00:31:54,813 --> 00:31:58,146 and some of the best one-liners in history. 576 00:31:58,229 --> 00:32:00,146 As I'm watching this, I was 577 00:32:00,229 --> 00:32:02,855 reluctantly, grudgingly realizing that 578 00:32:02,938 --> 00:32:05,229 I, as a public person by then, 579 00:32:05,312 --> 00:32:06,938 had to make a decision about 580 00:32:07,021 --> 00:32:08,771 whether I was gonna turn away from this. 581 00:32:08,855 --> 00:32:10,646 And so, I tweeted about it 582 00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:13,980 in a much more direct way than I had before. 583 00:32:20,563 --> 00:32:22,312 At some point in the evening, 584 00:32:22,396 --> 00:32:24,730 my husband came in, and he said, 585 00:32:24,813 --> 00:32:29,771 "You know, Ronan tweeted this really cool thing." 586 00:32:29,855 --> 00:32:31,396 It was... 587 00:32:31,479 --> 00:32:34,229 kind of a light bulb moment because... 588 00:32:36,062 --> 00:32:39,438 it felt like... 589 00:32:39,521 --> 00:32:42,646 wow, somebody's-- somebody's talking about it. 590 00:32:42,730 --> 00:32:45,688 I remember her calling me and crying. 591 00:32:45,771 --> 00:32:48,271 And saying that it just meant so much to her that, 592 00:32:48,354 --> 00:32:51,146 after we had had all these fights where I had told her to shut up, 593 00:32:51,229 --> 00:32:54,896 that someone had finally acknowledged her. 594 00:32:56,688 --> 00:32:59,479 That was sort of the watershed moment for me 595 00:32:59,563 --> 00:33:00,938 where I felt like 596 00:33:01,021 --> 00:33:05,479 if Ronan is talking about it, maybe I can talk about it, too. 597 00:33:05,563 --> 00:33:07,980 But the doctor I was seeing at the time 598 00:33:08,062 --> 00:33:11,479 said, you know, like, "If you go into this, 599 00:33:11,563 --> 00:33:13,229 "you are going to undo 600 00:33:13,312 --> 00:33:17,563 all of the hard work that you've done to heal yourself." 601 00:33:17,646 --> 00:33:22,062 And my first thought was there has been no healing. 602 00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,396 So, I wrote this essay, 603 00:33:28,479 --> 00:33:31,312 and I sent it to 604 00:33:31,396 --> 00:33:33,646 "The New York Times" and the "LA Times" opinion section. 605 00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:36,896 She went very far down 606 00:33:36,980 --> 00:33:40,229 the editorial process with a major national newspaper, 607 00:33:40,312 --> 00:33:44,104 which then resulted in the editor calling me, 608 00:33:44,187 --> 00:33:45,813 as a fellow journalist, and saying, 609 00:33:45,896 --> 00:33:48,021 "We can't run this. We have to cancel this 610 00:33:48,104 --> 00:33:51,104 even though we feel like it checks out." 611 00:33:51,187 --> 00:33:54,980 And then, I reached out to Nick Kristof. 612 00:33:55,062 --> 00:33:59,855 I had known Mia and Ronan Farrow for years. 613 00:33:59,938 --> 00:34:04,187 We were engaged in activities on Darfur. 614 00:34:04,271 --> 00:34:09,563 Ronan told me that Dylan had written an essay, 615 00:34:09,646 --> 00:34:12,646 and might I be able to help. 616 00:34:13,938 --> 00:34:17,479 I found her essay heartbreaking, 617 00:34:17,563 --> 00:34:20,563 and, and just devastating, 618 00:34:20,646 --> 00:34:23,312 and I thought it should have an outlet. 619 00:34:23,396 --> 00:34:25,938 There were some raised eyebrows at the "Times." 620 00:34:26,021 --> 00:34:28,229 You know, is it really appropriate for a columnist 621 00:34:28,312 --> 00:34:31,229 to use his blog to publish something that the "Times" 622 00:34:31,312 --> 00:34:34,479 itself does not wanna publish on the Op-Ed page? 623 00:34:34,563 --> 00:34:36,396 Is it appropriate in particular 624 00:34:36,479 --> 00:34:39,229 when that columnist is a family friend? 625 00:34:41,104 --> 00:34:44,604 I also think that there was still 626 00:34:44,688 --> 00:34:47,396 a culture at that point of 627 00:34:47,479 --> 00:34:51,187 being careful about giving voice to accusations 628 00:34:51,271 --> 00:34:54,604 and protecting powerful men. 629 00:34:54,688 --> 00:34:56,438 But at the end of the day, 630 00:34:56,521 --> 00:34:59,438 Dylan had written this extraordinary piece 631 00:34:59,521 --> 00:35:04,938 from the heart, and how could we not 632 00:35:05,021 --> 00:35:07,354 give the person at the center of this 633 00:35:07,438 --> 00:35:10,438 a chance to give her account of something 634 00:35:10,521 --> 00:35:13,312 everybody else in America had already talked about? 635 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,521 What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? 636 00:35:29,271 --> 00:35:32,187 Before you answer, you should know, 637 00:35:32,271 --> 00:35:33,938 when I was 7 years old, 638 00:35:34,021 --> 00:35:36,312 Woody Allen took me by the hand 639 00:35:36,396 --> 00:35:39,563 and lead me into a dim closet-like attic. 640 00:35:41,312 --> 00:35:42,980 He told me to lay on my stomach 641 00:35:43,062 --> 00:35:45,730 and play with my brother's electric train set. 642 00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:49,521 Then, he sexually assaulted me. 643 00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:54,354 For as long as I could remember, 644 00:35:54,438 --> 00:35:58,771 my father had been doing things to me that I didn't like. 645 00:35:58,855 --> 00:36:03,062 I didn't like it when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. 646 00:36:03,146 --> 00:36:05,312 I didn't like it when he would place his head 647 00:36:05,396 --> 00:36:09,479 in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out. 648 00:36:09,563 --> 00:36:11,730 I would hide under the beds 649 00:36:11,813 --> 00:36:14,771 or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters. 650 00:36:16,688 --> 00:36:18,730 But he always found me. 651 00:36:21,646 --> 00:36:25,604 I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. 652 00:36:29,312 --> 00:36:33,521 But what he did to me in the attic felt different. 653 00:36:33,604 --> 00:36:36,396 I couldn't keep the secret anymore. 654 00:36:38,438 --> 00:36:40,980 Others are still scared, vulnerable, 655 00:36:41,062 --> 00:36:44,396 and struggling for the courage to tell the truth. 656 00:36:45,980 --> 00:36:49,438 The message that Hollywood sends matters for them. 657 00:36:52,187 --> 00:36:54,229 So, imagine your 7-year-old daughter 658 00:36:54,312 --> 00:36:56,938 being led into an attic by Woody Allen. 659 00:36:58,229 --> 00:37:00,604 Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken 660 00:37:00,688 --> 00:37:02,980 with nausea at the mention of his name. 661 00:37:04,646 --> 00:37:08,187 Imagine a world that celebrates her tormentor. 662 00:37:10,521 --> 00:37:13,688 Now, what's your favorite Woody Allen movie? 663 00:37:24,312 --> 00:37:30,563 I had gone for two decades feeling like I was alone in this. 664 00:37:30,646 --> 00:37:34,229 And one of the first things that happened 665 00:37:34,312 --> 00:37:37,604 within days of the essay being released 666 00:37:37,688 --> 00:37:42,229 is that so many separate people 667 00:37:42,312 --> 00:37:47,646 from my life contacted me... 668 00:37:47,730 --> 00:37:51,479 and, you know, talked about what happened to them. 669 00:37:51,563 --> 00:37:53,563 I think the gift that they didn't realize 670 00:37:53,646 --> 00:37:55,646 they were giving me was that, 671 00:37:55,730 --> 00:37:57,771 you know, I was-- I wasn't alone, 672 00:37:57,855 --> 00:38:02,271 or I wasn't as alone as I thought I was, and... 673 00:38:02,354 --> 00:38:05,187 part of that, there was something very... 674 00:38:06,938 --> 00:38:12,730 reassuring, but also, you know, devastating. 675 00:38:14,271 --> 00:38:19,438 Because now, I know that so many people in my life 676 00:38:19,521 --> 00:38:22,563 were suffering silently the same way I was. 677 00:38:26,479 --> 00:38:28,187 Imagine my sadness 678 00:38:28,271 --> 00:38:31,271 when not only did Dylan not want to see me, 679 00:38:31,354 --> 00:38:34,354 but instead wrote an open letter 680 00:38:34,438 --> 00:38:36,271 saying I molested her. 681 00:38:36,354 --> 00:38:38,771 The openness is important as the strategy 682 00:38:38,855 --> 00:38:41,646 behind going public is not to resolve anything, 683 00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:44,604 but to smear me, her mother's goal. 684 00:38:51,855 --> 00:38:54,229 I have so, so much respect 685 00:38:54,312 --> 00:38:56,730 for Dylan, of who she is, 686 00:38:56,813 --> 00:39:00,021 what she had to do, and how she did it. 687 00:39:00,104 --> 00:39:03,604 To see Dylan, you know, claim herself, 688 00:39:03,688 --> 00:39:06,771 her whole self, um... 689 00:39:06,855 --> 00:39:09,354 And that meant going back and getting little Dylan 690 00:39:09,438 --> 00:39:12,354 and making her a part of this. 691 00:39:12,438 --> 00:39:16,062 I just told her how proud I was of her. 692 00:39:16,146 --> 00:39:17,855 But inside, I just crumple up 693 00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:20,479 because I know, I know he's gonna attack me. 694 00:39:21,771 --> 00:39:25,604 'Cause he can't really, you know, how can he... 695 00:39:25,688 --> 00:39:28,688 how can you attack her? She was a child. 696 00:39:28,771 --> 00:39:32,021 So you can only attack me. 697 00:39:32,104 --> 00:39:34,187 I'd always hoped when Dylan grew up, 698 00:39:34,271 --> 00:39:37,521 she would somehow realize how her mother had used her, 699 00:39:37,604 --> 00:39:40,771 taking full advantage of her age and vulnerability 700 00:39:40,855 --> 00:39:42,730 to deprive her of her father, 701 00:39:42,813 --> 00:39:47,062 knowing it was the surest vengeance toward me. 702 00:39:47,146 --> 00:39:49,104 Film director Woody Allen promises 703 00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:51,855 to fight renewed allegations of child molestation. 704 00:39:51,938 --> 00:39:54,229 The "Times" published his lengthy rebuttal, 705 00:39:54,312 --> 00:39:56,062 blasting the allegations as false, 706 00:39:56,146 --> 00:39:58,271 and blaming former girlfriend Mia Farrow 707 00:39:58,354 --> 00:39:59,688 for manipulating Dylan. 708 00:39:59,771 --> 00:40:02,146 "I love her," he writes of his daughter. 709 00:40:02,229 --> 00:40:03,730 "And hope one day, she will grasp 710 00:40:03,813 --> 00:40:06,730 "how she has been exploited by a mother more interested in 711 00:40:06,813 --> 00:40:09,896 her own festering anger than her daughter's well-being." 712 00:40:09,980 --> 00:40:12,855 He writes, "Not that I doubt Dylan hasn't come 713 00:40:12,938 --> 00:40:15,229 "to believe she's been molested, but if, 714 00:40:15,312 --> 00:40:17,730 "from the age of 7, a vulnerable child is taught 715 00:40:17,813 --> 00:40:20,021 "by a strong mother to hate her father, 716 00:40:20,104 --> 00:40:24,146 the image of me Mia wanted to establish had taken root." 717 00:40:26,604 --> 00:40:29,479 It was very difficult 718 00:40:29,563 --> 00:40:33,104 to have come forward with something so... 719 00:40:33,187 --> 00:40:34,938 deeply personal. 720 00:40:35,021 --> 00:40:38,312 And being told that 721 00:40:38,396 --> 00:40:40,813 not only are 722 00:40:40,896 --> 00:40:44,646 the things you're saying not true, 723 00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:46,771 but that you don't have 724 00:40:46,855 --> 00:40:50,521 the authority to speak about your own experiences. 725 00:40:50,604 --> 00:40:52,229 Welcome back. Tonight, another child 726 00:40:52,312 --> 00:40:53,771 of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen is speaking out 727 00:40:53,855 --> 00:40:56,146 in defense of Woody Allen. Moses is-- 728 00:40:56,229 --> 00:40:58,980 Moses Farrow's interview is in the new issue of "People" magazine. 729 00:40:59,062 --> 00:41:01,187 He says his sister Dylan's renewed allegations 730 00:41:01,271 --> 00:41:04,730 that Allen molested her when she was 7 are flat-out made up. 731 00:41:05,896 --> 00:41:07,730 I got a call from 732 00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:10,354 my mom saying that 733 00:41:10,438 --> 00:41:13,855 there was a reporter from "People" magazine 734 00:41:13,938 --> 00:41:15,479 who was talking to Moses, 735 00:41:15,563 --> 00:41:19,396 and he was accusing me of lying about my abuse, 736 00:41:19,479 --> 00:41:24,104 and accusing my mom of abusing him. 737 00:41:24,187 --> 00:41:26,312 Moses goes on to say that, during his childhood, 738 00:41:26,396 --> 00:41:28,980 he was physically harmed. Really horrible-- 739 00:41:29,062 --> 00:41:32,187 -Physically harmed by? -By Mia. By Mia. 740 00:41:32,271 --> 00:41:35,646 Uh, he, he really goes to great lengths 741 00:41:35,730 --> 00:41:38,146 to paint a portrait of his childhood that was 742 00:41:38,229 --> 00:41:40,396 nothing short of horrific. 743 00:41:41,896 --> 00:41:44,438 I shared a bedroom with Moses. 744 00:41:46,771 --> 00:41:49,104 I never saw anybody dragged down stairs. 745 00:41:49,187 --> 00:41:54,229 I never saw anybody hit or locked in closets. 746 00:41:58,438 --> 00:42:00,604 I had no idea why he would do this. 747 00:42:00,688 --> 00:42:04,688 He's suddenly speaking ill of my family and my mom. 748 00:42:04,771 --> 00:42:07,104 There was the typical, you know, grounding, yelling, 749 00:42:07,187 --> 00:42:10,271 when we did something wrong, but nothing abusive. 750 00:42:11,229 --> 00:42:12,855 No. 751 00:42:12,938 --> 00:42:16,146 The things he accuses her of are just ludicrous. 752 00:42:16,229 --> 00:42:19,021 I absolutely would have remembered if she locked us in barns 753 00:42:19,104 --> 00:42:22,479 and, you know, smacked us and screamed at us. 754 00:42:22,563 --> 00:42:24,521 I saw his rapport with my mother. 755 00:42:24,604 --> 00:42:26,229 My mom was devoted to Moses. 756 00:42:26,312 --> 00:42:28,187 She was kind and gentle to him. 757 00:42:28,271 --> 00:42:32,062 And all through my childhood and much of my adult life, 758 00:42:32,146 --> 00:42:34,855 Moses stood by my sister and my mother. 759 00:42:51,146 --> 00:42:53,521 He told numerous people in his life, 760 00:42:53,604 --> 00:42:56,938 including his ex-wife, that he believed Dylan. 761 00:42:57,021 --> 00:42:59,104 We love and miss Moses, 762 00:42:59,187 --> 00:43:02,604 and it's been really devastating. 763 00:43:02,688 --> 00:43:05,396 When I received that phone call, 764 00:43:05,479 --> 00:43:07,938 I just remember 765 00:43:08,021 --> 00:43:10,187 bursting into tears. 766 00:43:12,479 --> 00:43:13,980 Like... 767 00:43:17,646 --> 00:43:20,271 It was like I'd been told that 768 00:43:20,354 --> 00:43:23,104 this person that I knew 769 00:43:23,187 --> 00:43:26,521 and loved and trusted was gone! 770 00:43:29,146 --> 00:43:30,646 He says the incident in question 771 00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:32,271 that Dylan outlined in her letter, 772 00:43:32,354 --> 00:43:35,104 the incident in the attic with the train set, 773 00:43:35,187 --> 00:43:36,813 couldn't have happened by his own memory, 774 00:43:36,896 --> 00:43:39,229 and he himself was a child at the time, by his own memory, 775 00:43:39,312 --> 00:43:42,312 he says it couldn't have happened because on that day, 776 00:43:42,396 --> 00:43:45,438 they were all in public rooms, and said there's simply no way 777 00:43:45,521 --> 00:43:47,104 it could've happened. 778 00:45:11,730 --> 00:45:14,396 New to the story was a fresh, creative touch, 779 00:45:14,479 --> 00:45:16,396 something that never came up a single time 780 00:45:16,479 --> 00:45:18,771 during all the months of investigation 781 00:45:18,855 --> 00:45:21,271 in any of Dylan's numerous interviews. 782 00:45:21,354 --> 00:45:24,521 That is, Dylan suddenly claiming she was molested 783 00:45:24,604 --> 00:45:27,438 while she stared at the electric trains in the attic 784 00:45:27,521 --> 00:45:29,312 going round and round. 785 00:46:11,688 --> 00:46:13,688 I was now the real-life protagonist 786 00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:17,104 of a drama about an innocent person wrongly accused. 787 00:46:17,187 --> 00:46:20,604 Of course, unlike Hollywood, no Jimmy Stewart or Henry Fonda 788 00:46:20,688 --> 00:46:23,855 emerged suddenly to take my case and right the wrongs. 789 00:46:23,938 --> 00:46:26,104 But in real life, some rose 790 00:46:26,187 --> 00:46:28,187 and were fearless enough to take a principled stand. 791 00:46:28,271 --> 00:46:30,938 It's controversial. You accepted an award recently 792 00:46:31,021 --> 00:46:32,021 -for Woody Allen. -Uh-huh. 793 00:46:32,104 --> 00:46:34,521 -Did you have any trepidations? -No! 794 00:46:34,604 --> 00:46:35,938 -None whatsoever? -Of course not. 795 00:46:36,021 --> 00:46:37,646 I mean, you have to look at my life this way. 796 00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:40,438 I mean, he gave me my opportunity to be here 797 00:46:40,521 --> 00:46:42,938 and talk to you. It's all because of Woody Allen. 798 00:46:43,021 --> 00:46:45,312 Alec Baldwin was one of the very few 799 00:46:45,396 --> 00:46:47,688 with the courage to speak out bravely 800 00:46:47,771 --> 00:46:49,396 and clearly on my behalf. 801 00:46:49,479 --> 00:46:51,229 On Sunday, Alec Baldwin continued to defend 802 00:46:51,312 --> 00:46:53,354 embattled director Woody Allen who has been accused 803 00:46:53,438 --> 00:46:56,396 of sexual abuse by adopted daughter Dylan Farrow. 804 00:46:56,479 --> 00:46:58,604 Javier Bardem said he has doubts 805 00:46:58,688 --> 00:47:00,438 about the longstanding allegations 806 00:47:00,521 --> 00:47:02,688 of sexual misconduct against the filmmaker. 807 00:47:02,771 --> 00:47:04,730 Actor Adrien Brody recently weighed in 808 00:47:04,813 --> 00:47:07,146 on the sexual assault allegation against filmmakers 809 00:47:07,229 --> 00:47:09,229 Woody Allen and Roman Polanski. 810 00:47:09,312 --> 00:47:13,312 People make mistakes in lives and, and, uh... 811 00:47:13,396 --> 00:47:15,062 -you know. -Gotta forgive. 812 00:47:15,146 --> 00:47:17,563 Well, it's, I-- 813 00:47:18,479 --> 00:47:20,896 It's not for me to delve into. 814 00:47:20,980 --> 00:47:23,271 It's not really my place. 815 00:47:23,354 --> 00:47:24,980 I think that's a family issue, 816 00:47:25,062 --> 00:47:28,271 and I hope they can, they can resolve it. I really do. 817 00:47:28,354 --> 00:47:30,688 So there seemed to be not a coordinated effort exactly, 818 00:47:30,771 --> 00:47:33,521 but a series of commenters defending him 819 00:47:33,604 --> 00:47:35,187 in a way that I found kind of perplexing, 820 00:47:35,271 --> 00:47:38,938 and it seemed to be repeating a lot of the same talking points. 821 00:47:39,021 --> 00:47:41,896 There is a very strong fact 822 00:47:41,980 --> 00:47:44,646 in Woody's column, and that is this. 823 00:47:44,730 --> 00:47:47,938 That a team of experts concluded back then 824 00:47:48,021 --> 00:47:49,980 that Dylan was not abused. 825 00:47:50,062 --> 00:47:52,396 Yale-New Haven determined after six months, 826 00:47:52,479 --> 00:47:54,730 where everybody was interviewed, that it didn't happen. 827 00:47:54,813 --> 00:47:57,271 -So you believe she believes it because this idea was-- -I believe that. 828 00:47:57,354 --> 00:48:01,271 The fact the Yale-New Haven report is still cited is 829 00:48:01,354 --> 00:48:04,021 evidence of just how powerful it is 830 00:48:04,104 --> 00:48:05,938 when a PR machine 831 00:48:06,021 --> 00:48:09,438 plants an idea into the public narrative. 832 00:48:09,521 --> 00:48:12,062 I, at the time, was in the media and was getting 833 00:48:12,146 --> 00:48:16,271 the emails from Leslee Dart and Woody Allen's powerful PR team. 834 00:48:16,354 --> 00:48:20,479 There were dozens of reporters from major news outlets on those emails. 835 00:48:26,021 --> 00:48:28,187 She basically positioned this as, 836 00:48:28,271 --> 00:48:31,521 here's this way you can attack this young woman's credibility. 837 00:48:31,604 --> 00:48:35,479 Here's a validator you can put on-air to say that she's brainwashed. 838 00:48:35,563 --> 00:48:38,354 When you have Leslee Dart on your payroll, 839 00:48:38,438 --> 00:48:39,896 that is someone who can say 840 00:48:40,021 --> 00:48:41,563 you better print this, or I'm gonna withhold 841 00:48:41,646 --> 00:48:44,563 my clients from you in the future. 842 00:48:44,646 --> 00:48:46,980 Leslee Dart reps a lot of 843 00:48:47,062 --> 00:48:49,104 really big, important celebrities. 844 00:48:49,187 --> 00:48:50,938 She's known for being one of the people 845 00:48:51,021 --> 00:48:54,062 who might blackball a journalist for covering something 846 00:48:54,146 --> 00:48:55,521 in a way she didn't like, 847 00:48:55,604 --> 00:48:58,980 which bears itself out when Ronan himself wrote an article 848 00:48:59,062 --> 00:49:01,646 for the "Hollywood Reporter" about his father. 849 00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:04,229 Leslee Dart banned the "Hollywood Reporter" 850 00:49:04,312 --> 00:49:05,730 from coming to the luncheon 851 00:49:05,813 --> 00:49:10,062 that was celebrating the release of Allen's new movie. 852 00:49:10,146 --> 00:49:12,438 It does tell us a bit of how Hollywood works though, right? 853 00:49:12,521 --> 00:49:14,187 -That these publicists are very powerful. -Yes. 854 00:49:14,271 --> 00:49:16,271 They're out there to create a narrative 855 00:49:16,354 --> 00:49:18,354 around their influence, around their client. 856 00:49:18,438 --> 00:49:21,104 There is a culture of 857 00:49:21,187 --> 00:49:23,479 transactional access journalism, 858 00:49:23,563 --> 00:49:25,813 where powerful PR people 859 00:49:25,896 --> 00:49:28,396 trade stories and plant stories 860 00:49:28,479 --> 00:49:30,813 and put into the public consciousness 861 00:49:30,896 --> 00:49:32,896 whatever their clients want. 862 00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:36,104 Is it a story? Is it a fantasy? 863 00:49:36,187 --> 00:49:38,229 Dylan Farrow had likely been coached. 864 00:49:38,312 --> 00:49:40,646 -She had been coached. -Had likely been coached. 865 00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:43,104 Dylan may have been affected by a product of 866 00:49:43,187 --> 00:49:46,062 -parental alienation, the ugliness between the spouses. -Yes. 867 00:49:46,146 --> 00:49:49,146 There have been cases of parental alienation, 868 00:49:49,229 --> 00:49:51,563 where one parent wants to turn the child 869 00:49:51,646 --> 00:49:53,312 against the other parent, 870 00:49:53,396 --> 00:49:55,813 and therefore may begin coaching them 871 00:49:55,896 --> 00:50:00,229 as to a sexual abuse that perhaps did not happen. 872 00:50:10,980 --> 00:50:12,479 Parental alienation spread 873 00:50:12,563 --> 00:50:15,563 like wildfire across the United States. 874 00:50:15,646 --> 00:50:18,104 I'm in family court all the time. 875 00:50:18,187 --> 00:50:21,271 I read about this in the case law, 876 00:50:21,354 --> 00:50:23,354 and it's absolutely ubiquitous that 877 00:50:23,438 --> 00:50:25,021 that claim will be made in family court. 878 00:50:25,104 --> 00:50:28,771 It's made almost every day in every state across the country. 879 00:50:30,771 --> 00:50:32,396 It got a hold in the court system 880 00:50:32,479 --> 00:50:35,021 because it was easier to blame a mother 881 00:50:35,104 --> 00:50:38,104 than to blame a father for being an abuser. 882 00:50:38,187 --> 00:50:40,521 It was way more believable 883 00:50:40,604 --> 00:50:44,021 that a mother can be hysterical and angry and upset 884 00:50:44,104 --> 00:50:46,813 than a father could be an abuser. 885 00:50:59,479 --> 00:51:02,104 Not only do courts not believe abuse when it's alleged 886 00:51:02,187 --> 00:51:03,813 by mothers against fathers, 887 00:51:03,896 --> 00:51:06,646 women lose custody for alleging abuse against fathers, 888 00:51:06,730 --> 00:51:08,479 and they particularly lose custody 889 00:51:08,563 --> 00:51:11,855 when they allege child sexual abuse and child physical abuse. 890 00:51:11,938 --> 00:51:14,229 Concerned parents protested this very issue 891 00:51:14,312 --> 00:51:16,312 recently in downtown LA. 892 00:51:16,396 --> 00:51:18,438 -What do we want? -Children protected! 893 00:51:18,521 --> 00:51:20,438 -When do we want it? -Now! 894 00:51:20,521 --> 00:51:22,563 We reported abuse, and I lost my grandchild. 895 00:51:22,646 --> 00:51:25,146 I reported abuse and lost my son. 896 00:51:25,229 --> 00:51:27,271 I reported abuse and lost custody. 897 00:51:27,354 --> 00:51:30,479 The culture has to understand the family courts have been 898 00:51:30,563 --> 00:51:32,604 not only not protecting, but really 899 00:51:32,688 --> 00:51:34,563 sending children to abuse. 900 00:51:54,021 --> 00:51:56,396 These children never recover. 901 00:51:56,479 --> 00:51:59,438 They have an increased rate of suicide attempts. 902 00:51:59,521 --> 00:52:02,896 They have severe mental health difficulties. 903 00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:05,604 They have dissociative disorders. 904 00:52:05,688 --> 00:52:07,813 For so many victims of incest, 905 00:52:07,896 --> 00:52:10,730 the longterm impact is devastating. 906 00:52:17,062 --> 00:52:21,187 It feels isolating to be a survivor of sexual abuse. 907 00:52:23,271 --> 00:52:26,021 It doesn't go away. It doesn't-- 908 00:52:26,104 --> 00:52:28,396 It doesn't vanish overnight. 909 00:52:28,479 --> 00:52:30,604 It's a lifelong... 910 00:52:31,730 --> 00:52:32,855 sentence. 911 00:52:34,563 --> 00:52:37,813 And this is not just my story. 912 00:52:37,896 --> 00:52:41,646 There are still so many of us out there who 913 00:52:41,730 --> 00:52:47,438 feel unseen, who feel unheard, who feel disbelieved. 914 00:52:47,521 --> 00:52:50,187 It's the story of everyone 915 00:52:50,271 --> 00:52:53,896 who has come up against a powerful figure, 916 00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:56,396 and had to hold their own against 917 00:52:56,479 --> 00:52:58,688 ridiculous odds. 918 00:53:00,646 --> 00:53:03,104 Allegations of sexual assault made by 919 00:53:03,187 --> 00:53:05,646 a dozen actresses against Harvey Weinstein 920 00:53:05,730 --> 00:53:08,312 appeared online in early October. 921 00:53:08,396 --> 00:53:11,021 And joining us at the table, Ronan Farrow, 922 00:53:11,104 --> 00:53:12,855 who investigated Weinstein for 10 months 923 00:53:12,938 --> 00:53:15,271 and published this chilling "New Yorker" story 924 00:53:15,354 --> 00:53:17,271 about alleged assaults and rapes. 925 00:53:17,354 --> 00:53:19,855 We are in this moment where women are coming forward 926 00:53:19,938 --> 00:53:22,563 -one after another, in industry after industry, -Yeah. 927 00:53:22,646 --> 00:53:24,855 telling the hardest stories of a lifetime. 928 00:53:24,938 --> 00:53:27,438 As he interviewed women making accusations, 929 00:53:27,521 --> 00:53:30,104 Dylan was on his mind. 930 00:53:30,187 --> 00:53:33,229 She made a very brave choice to go public 931 00:53:33,312 --> 00:53:34,896 because she thought it could help others. 932 00:53:34,980 --> 00:53:37,730 Dylan Farrow says she's speaking up again 933 00:53:37,813 --> 00:53:39,229 to have her voice included 934 00:53:39,312 --> 00:53:41,771 in the Time's Up and MeToo conversations. 935 00:53:41,855 --> 00:53:45,563 With so much silence being broken, 936 00:53:45,646 --> 00:53:49,521 it was important to add my story to theirs. 937 00:53:49,604 --> 00:53:51,938 Woody Allen was never charged 938 00:53:52,021 --> 00:53:54,312 with a crime in this case. 939 00:53:54,396 --> 00:53:56,938 But, as we know, there was probable cause 940 00:53:57,021 --> 00:53:59,730 determined by the Connecticut State's Attorney in '93, 941 00:53:59,813 --> 00:54:01,813 but he didn't go through with prosecution. 942 00:54:01,896 --> 00:54:03,563 Frank Maco thought Dylan was 943 00:54:03,646 --> 00:54:06,146 too fragile to face a celebrity trial. 944 00:54:13,646 --> 00:54:17,646 I wish that I had testified or that I had... 945 00:54:17,730 --> 00:54:20,271 just been put up there anyway. 946 00:54:20,354 --> 00:54:22,938 And I don't wish that 947 00:54:23,021 --> 00:54:25,688 Frank Maco had disregarded my mental health, 948 00:54:25,771 --> 00:54:29,062 but I wish that I had been stronger. 949 00:54:29,146 --> 00:54:34,312 That I hadn't crumpled so much under the-- under the pressure. 950 00:54:36,312 --> 00:54:39,521 I, to this day, feel like... 951 00:54:40,855 --> 00:54:43,354 I was given an opportunity to be brave, 952 00:54:44,146 --> 00:54:45,479 and I turned it down. 953 00:54:53,521 --> 00:54:56,521 I mean, when I made my decision back in 954 00:54:56,604 --> 00:54:58,896 1993... 955 00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:01,312 uh, not to prosecute, 956 00:55:01,396 --> 00:55:03,104 I told your mom at that time 957 00:55:03,187 --> 00:55:05,646 that if, at some point, you wanted to find out 958 00:55:05,730 --> 00:55:07,980 what I did, why I did it, 959 00:55:08,062 --> 00:55:10,229 I would certainly meet with you 960 00:55:10,312 --> 00:55:12,396 and answer whatever questions you had. 961 00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:16,146 My mom always made it known to me 962 00:55:16,229 --> 00:55:19,354 that I had a lot to be very thankful to you for. 963 00:55:20,396 --> 00:55:23,271 That I'd been, you know, spared 964 00:55:23,354 --> 00:55:25,938 the circus of a courtroom and... 965 00:55:26,896 --> 00:55:29,980 all of that madness, and 966 00:55:30,062 --> 00:55:31,771 probably trauma. 967 00:55:31,855 --> 00:55:34,312 But a part of me really, really wishes that 968 00:55:34,396 --> 00:55:38,730 I could've done it and that I could've had my day in court. 969 00:55:42,271 --> 00:55:45,980 You have every right to have whatever feelings you have. 970 00:55:47,104 --> 00:55:49,187 But I can tell you right now, 971 00:55:49,271 --> 00:55:51,604 my fault because there is never a chance 972 00:55:51,688 --> 00:55:54,312 that I would do that to you. 973 00:55:54,396 --> 00:55:56,688 Just put you on the stand to have you freeze, 974 00:55:56,771 --> 00:55:59,021 is something that's incomprehensible. 975 00:55:59,104 --> 00:56:02,604 But I never want to hear that you blame yourself. 976 00:56:03,938 --> 00:56:05,730 I made the decision. 977 00:56:05,813 --> 00:56:08,521 And do I think about it? Of course! 978 00:56:08,604 --> 00:56:10,396 That case... 979 00:56:10,479 --> 00:56:12,021 As many cases as I've tried, 980 00:56:12,104 --> 00:56:14,896 as many cases of sexual abuses I've tried, 981 00:56:14,980 --> 00:56:17,771 as many murder cases as I've tried, 982 00:56:18,771 --> 00:56:22,730 what's the case that's gonna be with me 983 00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:25,104 for the rest of my days? 984 00:56:25,187 --> 00:56:27,938 My decision in this investigation. 985 00:56:32,896 --> 00:56:36,646 I wasn't exactly sure like what I wanted... 986 00:56:37,521 --> 00:56:39,479 to say. 987 00:56:41,146 --> 00:56:42,604 I guess... 988 00:56:42,688 --> 00:56:45,604 I guess I just needed to hear that. 989 00:56:46,479 --> 00:56:48,104 Thank you. 990 00:56:48,855 --> 00:56:50,688 For everything. 991 00:57:07,146 --> 00:57:10,271 About two months after the allegations against Weinstein, 992 00:57:10,354 --> 00:57:13,938 Dylan wrote another op-ed, this time for the "LA Times," 993 00:57:14,021 --> 00:57:17,104 and asked explicitly why hasn't the MeToo movement 994 00:57:17,187 --> 00:57:19,604 toppled Woody Allen yet. And in it, 995 00:57:19,688 --> 00:57:22,271 she links the way that Hollywood had protected 996 00:57:22,354 --> 00:57:24,896 other predators to the way people had protected 997 00:57:24,980 --> 00:57:28,521 her father and renewed her allegations against him. 998 00:57:30,187 --> 00:57:34,146 I'm tired of not being believed and being told that... 999 00:57:36,062 --> 00:57:41,438 that I'm wrong about something I know 100% for fact. 1000 00:57:41,521 --> 00:57:45,271 I'm tired of being told that my experiences don't matter. 1001 00:57:45,354 --> 00:57:49,062 I'm tired of feeling like... 1002 00:57:49,896 --> 00:57:52,479 he matters more than me. 1003 00:57:52,563 --> 00:57:54,813 I'm tired of 1004 00:57:54,896 --> 00:57:57,104 this whole argument of separating 1005 00:57:57,187 --> 00:58:00,563 the art from the artist so that you can feel better about it. 1006 00:58:01,938 --> 00:58:03,396 The MeToo Movement has forced 1007 00:58:03,479 --> 00:58:05,479 the country to take a second look at art. 1008 00:58:05,563 --> 00:58:09,229 We've known for a long time that not all artists are nice people. 1009 00:58:09,312 --> 00:58:11,604 Caravaggio murdered somebody. 1010 00:58:11,688 --> 00:58:14,021 Charles Dickens was an anti-Semite. 1011 00:58:14,104 --> 00:58:15,604 I mean, the list goes on, right? 1012 00:58:15,688 --> 00:58:18,646 The question is, at the end of the day, is it still good art? 1013 00:58:18,730 --> 00:58:21,604 What do we do with great art made by bad people? 1014 00:58:21,688 --> 00:58:23,521 How do we respond? How is the work 1015 00:58:23,604 --> 00:58:26,813 altered by our knowledge of their badness? 1016 00:58:26,896 --> 00:58:29,271 Do we keep consuming it? Do we not consume it? 1017 00:58:29,354 --> 00:58:31,730 -What about Michael Jackson? -It's a slippery slope, 1018 00:58:31,813 --> 00:58:34,604 the whole idea that we need a spotless moral character 1019 00:58:34,688 --> 00:58:37,604 for any artist because no one's gonna pass that test. 1020 00:58:37,688 --> 00:58:39,521 -Bill Cosby. -No, I can't listen to him now. 1021 00:58:39,604 --> 00:58:43,271 -No. Oh, you can't? You can't separate it? -I can't separate it. I can't. 1022 00:58:45,521 --> 00:58:46,813 -Hmm. 1023 00:58:46,896 --> 00:58:49,104 -Well, to me it's-- -'Cause there's love there. 1024 00:58:49,187 --> 00:58:51,021 -There's love there. -Yeah, yeah! I know... 1025 00:58:51,104 --> 00:58:53,521 When you look back at men 1026 00:58:53,604 --> 00:58:56,312 like Picasso putting out a cigarette on a woman's cheek, 1027 00:58:56,396 --> 00:58:59,104 it's not like, you know, there was a rising up to 1028 00:58:59,187 --> 00:59:01,146 argue that we shouldn't buy Picassos. 1029 00:59:01,229 --> 00:59:04,771 If anything, those behaviors burnished their images. 1030 00:59:04,855 --> 00:59:07,604 So, you know, there was this... 1031 00:59:07,688 --> 00:59:12,187 way in which, for a long time, these really, um, 1032 00:59:12,271 --> 00:59:15,521 aggro male behaviors 1033 00:59:15,604 --> 00:59:17,730 were part of the artist's image, 1034 00:59:17,813 --> 00:59:19,646 and part of maybe even 1035 00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:21,354 what made people interested in them. 1036 00:59:21,438 --> 00:59:23,396 The big question is what do you do 1037 00:59:23,479 --> 00:59:26,062 with these things that are out there 1038 00:59:26,146 --> 00:59:29,229 and that mean something to you? Do you never revisit them? 1039 00:59:29,312 --> 00:59:31,813 Or do you revisit them and learn from them? 1040 00:59:31,896 --> 00:59:34,187 You know, I think the mistake we women make 1041 00:59:34,271 --> 00:59:36,479 is we fall in love with the artist-- Hey! You guys, are you listening? 1042 00:59:36,563 --> 00:59:38,479 -Yes, yes. I'm listening. -We fall in love with the artist, 1043 00:59:38,563 --> 00:59:41,730 -not the man. -I don't think that's a mistake. How is that a mistake? 1044 00:59:44,646 --> 00:59:46,271 When you write about Woody Allen 1045 00:59:46,354 --> 00:59:49,771 and you talk about Woody Allen, and you don't... 1046 00:59:49,855 --> 00:59:51,980 speak in the most glowing terms, 1047 00:59:52,062 --> 00:59:54,271 there tends to be, um, 1048 00:59:54,354 --> 00:59:57,229 a response from, in particular, male fans, 1049 00:59:57,312 --> 01:00:00,521 who sort of argue with 1050 01:00:01,813 --> 01:00:05,104 the whole premise that 1051 01:00:05,187 --> 01:00:06,771 there might be 1052 01:00:06,855 --> 01:00:09,688 a biographical case to be made 1053 01:00:09,771 --> 01:00:11,980 against Woody's work. 1054 01:00:13,521 --> 01:00:17,104 But I actually think that acknowledging 1055 01:00:17,187 --> 01:00:19,730 the biographical element, withstanding it, 1056 01:00:19,813 --> 01:00:23,438 and still continuing to consume the art 1057 01:00:23,521 --> 01:00:25,021 is a stronger argument 1058 01:00:25,104 --> 01:00:28,730 for the endurance and the beauty and the importance of art, 1059 01:00:28,813 --> 01:00:32,146 rather than pretending that the biography doesn't touch it. 1060 01:00:32,229 --> 01:00:35,563 It's so much easier when nobody's making any money, isn't it? 1061 01:00:37,354 --> 01:00:39,438 Wagner's not getting any money when we perform 1062 01:00:39,521 --> 01:00:41,646 his operas, you know? 1063 01:00:41,730 --> 01:00:45,354 In the process of spending all this time 1064 01:00:45,438 --> 01:00:47,938 understanding the mind of someone 1065 01:00:48,021 --> 01:00:50,146 who I thought of as abusive, 1066 01:00:50,229 --> 01:00:52,980 and kind of understanding 1067 01:00:53,062 --> 01:00:55,396 how his mind worked 1068 01:00:55,479 --> 01:00:58,521 and what made things tick, it was... 1069 01:00:59,730 --> 01:01:02,146 giving him box office, giving him press, 1070 01:01:02,229 --> 01:01:04,312 giving him more power. 1071 01:01:04,396 --> 01:01:08,730 And by writing about his movies and contributing to his movies, 1072 01:01:08,813 --> 01:01:13,646 I was increasing the power that he was able to abuse. 1073 01:01:13,730 --> 01:01:15,730 And for me, that was the line. 1074 01:01:15,813 --> 01:01:18,521 So I wrote an article in the "Hollywood Reporter" 1075 01:01:18,604 --> 01:01:22,062 about how I wouldn't watch any more new Woody Allen films. 1076 01:01:24,604 --> 01:01:26,646 I had to turn off all my notifications. 1077 01:01:26,730 --> 01:01:28,354 I've never gotten so much hate mail. 1078 01:01:28,438 --> 01:01:31,187 I just like tried to be offline for a while after I wrote this. 1079 01:01:31,271 --> 01:01:34,855 I haven't seen a new Woody Allen film since, 1080 01:01:34,938 --> 01:01:37,771 and I... 1081 01:01:37,855 --> 01:01:40,896 probably won't until he's dead. 1082 01:01:43,229 --> 01:01:45,438 I got an interview with Roland Pollard. 1083 01:01:45,521 --> 01:01:47,813 -Oh my gosh, that is amazing! 1084 01:01:47,896 --> 01:01:50,771 -And it's on campus? -Mm-mmm. It's in Manhattan. 1085 01:01:52,604 --> 01:01:54,479 So one of the earliest actors 1086 01:01:54,563 --> 01:01:56,229 to say they wouldn't work with him again 1087 01:01:56,312 --> 01:01:58,646 and they wished they hadn't in the past 1088 01:01:58,730 --> 01:02:00,354 was Griffin Newman, who had shot 1089 01:02:00,438 --> 01:02:02,312 scenes for "Rainy Day In New York," 1090 01:02:02,396 --> 01:02:04,104 He said he regretted it. 1091 01:02:04,187 --> 01:02:06,396 He wished he hadn't done it, and he donated his salary. 1092 01:02:06,479 --> 01:02:08,563 Several other people followed. 1093 01:02:08,646 --> 01:02:12,062 Rebecca Hall and Timothée Chalamet 1094 01:02:12,146 --> 01:02:14,229 and Selena Gomez, all of these people started 1095 01:02:14,312 --> 01:02:16,271 donating their salaries as well. 1096 01:02:19,688 --> 01:02:22,938 When the first messages of support 1097 01:02:23,021 --> 01:02:25,813 actually came, I-I-I was kind of shocked. 1098 01:02:28,021 --> 01:02:31,229 It was presented to actors that these were people 1099 01:02:31,312 --> 01:02:34,146 who it was okay to work with. 1100 01:02:34,229 --> 01:02:36,604 Um, but now, of course, 1101 01:02:36,688 --> 01:02:39,896 I feel I can just say, you know, I shouldn't have done. 1102 01:02:44,312 --> 01:02:46,730 I think what they did took 1103 01:02:46,813 --> 01:02:49,771 a lot of bravery in and of itself, 1104 01:02:49,855 --> 01:02:53,312 and it's really helped me to... 1105 01:02:54,688 --> 01:03:00,646 to reclaim some of my own sense of self-worth. 1106 01:03:02,855 --> 01:03:05,479 And every message of support 1107 01:03:05,563 --> 01:03:08,604 that I've received has been a gift. 1108 01:03:08,688 --> 01:03:11,396 Over the past two weeks, several celebrities have voiced 1109 01:03:11,479 --> 01:03:13,938 their support for Farrow, including Natalie Portman, 1110 01:03:14,021 --> 01:03:16,646 who spoke out on "CBS Sunday Morning." 1111 01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:19,312 I believe Dylan. I wanna say that. 1112 01:03:19,396 --> 01:03:21,187 I believe you, Dylan. 1113 01:03:25,187 --> 01:03:28,021 I do think that my sister's ferocious courage 1114 01:03:28,104 --> 01:03:31,354 in insisting that she speak out again as an adult 1115 01:03:31,438 --> 01:03:35,646 was part of a set of circumstances 1116 01:03:35,730 --> 01:03:39,980 that catalyzed more women feeling empowered to speak. 1117 01:03:40,062 --> 01:03:42,938 And you can chart how different the reaction was 1118 01:03:43,021 --> 01:03:45,104 when my sister spoke in 2014, 1119 01:03:45,187 --> 01:03:49,354 and then when she again spoke in 2018. 1120 01:03:49,438 --> 01:03:51,688 The culture changed in that window 1121 01:03:51,771 --> 01:03:54,354 in a significant way, and we are, for the first time, 1122 01:03:54,438 --> 01:03:56,646 hearing stories like hers, 1123 01:03:56,730 --> 01:03:59,980 and not spin and counter-narrative. 1124 01:04:05,062 --> 01:04:08,187 The press lumped me with any number of men 1125 01:04:08,271 --> 01:04:10,563 who were charged, convicted, or admitted 1126 01:04:10,646 --> 01:04:13,938 to sex crimes or harassment of large numbers of women 1127 01:04:14,021 --> 01:04:16,771 on numerous occasions, despite the fact 1128 01:04:16,855 --> 01:04:19,479 the accusation against me had repeatedly 1129 01:04:19,563 --> 01:04:21,521 been found not to have occurred. 1130 01:04:21,604 --> 01:04:24,688 Schools stopped giving courses on my films. 1131 01:04:24,771 --> 01:04:28,354 I was cut out of a documentary about the Carlyle Hotel. 1132 01:04:28,438 --> 01:04:31,688 I was cut out of a series on poetry by PBS. 1133 01:04:31,771 --> 01:04:34,354 My completed film, "A Rainy Day In New York," 1134 01:04:34,438 --> 01:04:36,938 lay around undistributed in America, 1135 01:04:37,021 --> 01:04:40,312 though, mercifully, the rest of the world was not so nuts. 1136 01:04:49,062 --> 01:04:51,104 Throughout her relationship with Woody Allen, 1137 01:04:51,187 --> 01:04:53,229 Soon-Yi has remained mostly silent. 1138 01:04:53,312 --> 01:04:55,479 But now, the 47-year-old is speaking out. 1139 01:04:55,563 --> 01:04:57,396 Previn told "New York" Magazine, 1140 01:04:57,479 --> 01:05:01,062 quote, "What's happened to Woody is so upsetting, so unjust..." 1141 01:05:01,146 --> 01:05:03,563 We should point out that Woody Allen was present 1142 01:05:03,646 --> 01:05:06,730 for much of that interview, and he weighed in periodically. 1143 01:05:06,813 --> 01:05:10,062 Soon-Yi says Mia Farrow had a tendency of slapping 1144 01:05:10,146 --> 01:05:14,021 and spanking Soon-Yi or calling her stupid and moronic. 1145 01:05:22,021 --> 01:05:24,438 This is a very pointed piece. 1146 01:05:24,521 --> 01:05:26,646 It's out there because Woody Allen 1147 01:05:26,730 --> 01:05:29,479 can't make the movies that he wants to make. 1148 01:05:29,563 --> 01:05:32,271 Actors, actresses are apologizing 1149 01:05:32,354 --> 01:05:33,604 for having worked with him, 1150 01:05:33,688 --> 01:05:35,021 perhaps refusing to work with him. 1151 01:05:35,104 --> 01:05:36,646 It looks like his latest film has been 1152 01:05:36,730 --> 01:05:40,104 put on the shelf. This is a calculated move. 1153 01:05:40,187 --> 01:05:43,312 This is a calculated move in a media war. 1154 01:05:45,187 --> 01:05:47,354 He's weaponized two of my children 1155 01:05:47,438 --> 01:05:49,604 that he's turned against me. 1156 01:05:49,688 --> 01:05:53,021 They are all people I loved with all my heart. 1157 01:05:53,104 --> 01:05:56,438 All of them. And they're all people that I would have 1158 01:05:56,521 --> 01:05:59,813 laid down my life for. And... 1159 01:06:00,730 --> 01:06:04,312 I love Soon-Yi, you know? 1160 01:06:04,396 --> 01:06:06,521 It took me six years to throw away 1161 01:06:06,604 --> 01:06:08,479 the Christmas stocking I knitted for her, 1162 01:06:08,563 --> 01:06:10,438 thinking she would come back. 1163 01:06:10,521 --> 01:06:12,104 But, she didn't. 1164 01:06:35,563 --> 01:06:37,896 When Dylan wanted to confront it, 1165 01:06:37,980 --> 01:06:40,438 or, you know, Ronan did, or whatever, 1166 01:06:40,521 --> 01:06:44,813 I was always there to say you do what you need to do. 1167 01:06:44,896 --> 01:06:47,062 And I'll be really proud of you, whatever it is. 1168 01:06:47,146 --> 01:06:49,271 If you decide never to talk about it, 1169 01:06:49,354 --> 01:06:50,604 believe me, I understand. 1170 01:06:50,688 --> 01:06:52,813 If you decide you need to talk about it, 1171 01:06:52,896 --> 01:06:54,104 I'm there with you. 1172 01:06:54,187 --> 01:06:56,146 I'm there with you, and I'm super proud. 1173 01:06:56,229 --> 01:06:58,521 If that's part of an evolution, 1174 01:06:58,604 --> 01:07:01,604 oh my gosh, that's wonderful. 1175 01:07:01,688 --> 01:07:03,479 And then I would go, oh! I'm shaking! 1176 01:07:03,563 --> 01:07:05,396 Thinking, "Oh my god, I hope she doesn't." 1177 01:07:05,479 --> 01:07:08,688 'Cause I knew what would come and I'd be so scared. 1178 01:07:08,771 --> 01:07:11,229 You know, I was so scared of him. 1179 01:07:19,271 --> 01:07:21,896 I know. That shouldn't go with my really strong package 1180 01:07:21,980 --> 01:07:24,312 that I'd like to present. 1181 01:07:29,813 --> 01:07:32,479 I don't know. I'm just scared. 1182 01:07:32,563 --> 01:07:35,688 I'm scared of him, you know, of... 1183 01:07:35,771 --> 01:07:40,813 a person who has no allegiance to truth... 1184 01:07:41,688 --> 01:07:43,146 will do anything. 1185 01:07:43,229 --> 01:07:44,688 A person who will do anything 1186 01:07:44,771 --> 01:07:46,980 is somebody to be scared of. 1187 01:07:48,479 --> 01:07:52,021 And so I worry that when this documentary comes out, 1188 01:07:52,104 --> 01:07:53,896 he will be on the attack again. 1189 01:07:53,980 --> 01:07:57,938 He'll do whatever he has to do to try to save himself, you know? 1190 01:07:59,062 --> 01:08:01,771 From the truths, from the mess he made. 1191 01:08:03,688 --> 01:08:05,730 If I could take it all back, I would. 1192 01:08:05,813 --> 01:08:08,813 I wish I'd never met him, of course. 1193 01:08:08,896 --> 01:08:12,771 That's my great regret of my life. 1194 01:08:12,855 --> 01:08:14,479 To bring somebody like that. 1195 01:08:14,563 --> 01:08:17,146 He should never have been in the family. 1196 01:08:18,438 --> 01:08:21,396 -Hello? -Hi there! 1197 01:08:23,062 --> 01:08:24,938 Do you want a cup of coffee? 1198 01:08:25,021 --> 01:08:27,855 -Always. Yes. -Yeah. 1199 01:08:27,938 --> 01:08:30,062 I know my daughter. 1200 01:08:30,146 --> 01:08:32,229 Do you want milk or cream? 1201 01:08:32,312 --> 01:08:34,354 -You have cream? -No. 1202 01:08:34,438 --> 01:08:36,271 -I thought I did, 1203 01:08:36,354 --> 01:08:38,354 but I don't. 1204 01:08:49,521 --> 01:08:52,479 You know, my mind goes back, like what should I have done? 1205 01:08:52,563 --> 01:08:54,021 And I know what I should've done. 1206 01:08:54,104 --> 01:08:56,521 And then it's why didn't I? 1207 01:08:56,604 --> 01:08:59,730 And then who was I that didn't do those things? 1208 01:09:00,813 --> 01:09:02,521 You know, when I should have, 1209 01:09:02,604 --> 01:09:06,354 and I know that I should have now, you know? 1210 01:09:07,730 --> 01:09:10,229 Do you ever feel angry at me? 1211 01:09:11,521 --> 01:09:15,229 For somehow letting this happen? 1212 01:09:16,312 --> 01:09:18,062 Bringing this person in the house, 1213 01:09:18,146 --> 01:09:20,229 bringing this person into a family. 1214 01:09:27,980 --> 01:09:31,438 You know, you, you, you very easily could have... 1215 01:09:33,104 --> 01:09:35,646 chosen not to believe me. 1216 01:09:35,730 --> 01:09:38,521 To take his word over mine, 1217 01:09:38,604 --> 01:09:40,938 and just, you know, I mean, and I've talked 1218 01:09:41,021 --> 01:09:43,604 to other survivors that say to me, 1219 01:09:43,688 --> 01:09:45,688 "The difference in our story 1220 01:09:45,771 --> 01:09:50,563 "is that my mom... didn't believe me. 1221 01:09:50,646 --> 01:09:54,479 "My mom didn't protect me, and my mom was not there for me. 1222 01:09:54,563 --> 01:09:56,855 She was not willing to fight for me." 1223 01:09:56,938 --> 01:09:58,813 And I, you know, 1224 01:09:58,896 --> 01:10:01,521 whatever other mistakes you made, 1225 01:10:01,604 --> 01:10:03,771 I just feel like... 1226 01:10:04,896 --> 01:10:07,187 you were there when it mattered. 1227 01:10:24,312 --> 01:10:28,813 So, this is the photo album that I made for my daughter. 1228 01:10:28,896 --> 01:10:30,855 Following in my... 1229 01:10:30,938 --> 01:10:34,813 in my mother's footsteps, I made a photo album. 1230 01:10:36,146 --> 01:10:40,980 I kept all my, um, my cards from my baby shower, 1231 01:10:41,062 --> 01:10:43,187 um, couple of four-leaf clovers that I found 1232 01:10:43,271 --> 01:10:46,813 within a week of each other, um... 1233 01:10:46,896 --> 01:10:49,730 Just, I don't know, maybe, maybe they're good luck. 1234 01:10:51,312 --> 01:10:55,062 Pictures of me all glowing and pregnant and happy. 1235 01:10:58,563 --> 01:11:00,604 The second I found out I was having a little girl, 1236 01:11:00,688 --> 01:11:04,062 I was overjoyed, but I was also terrified. 1237 01:11:09,354 --> 01:11:11,855 And there are moments when... 1238 01:11:11,938 --> 01:11:17,604 I look at my daughter, and I see little like flickers 1239 01:11:17,688 --> 01:11:19,855 of little Dylan in her, and... 1240 01:11:21,354 --> 01:11:24,146 I get what my mom did for me. 1241 01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:25,646 How hard it was. 1242 01:11:33,271 --> 01:11:36,187 -Hi! -We came to you... 1243 01:11:36,271 --> 01:11:38,271 we, we came here! 1244 01:11:38,354 --> 01:11:40,396 You came here, you did. 1245 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,646 I'm so glad to see you. 1246 01:11:42,730 --> 01:11:44,521 If Mommy can catch it. 1247 01:11:44,604 --> 01:11:46,396 Look. See what she did? 1248 01:12:00,730 --> 01:12:04,396 There's so much 1249 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,229 about what I've been through 1250 01:12:07,312 --> 01:12:10,730 that I'll never be able to fully explain. 1251 01:12:13,146 --> 01:12:16,438 I think that the best gift that 1252 01:12:16,521 --> 01:12:19,938 I could've given my daughter is that she has 1253 01:12:20,021 --> 01:12:22,604 a really wonderful father. 1254 01:12:22,688 --> 01:12:24,312 Let's go. 1255 01:12:28,271 --> 01:12:30,396 You know, honestly, sometimes... 1256 01:12:31,730 --> 01:12:35,980 when I watch my husband and my daughter together, 1257 01:12:36,062 --> 01:12:38,771 I actually feel a little jealous. 1258 01:12:41,813 --> 01:12:43,688 But... 1259 01:12:43,771 --> 01:12:45,187 it's, it's bittersweet 1260 01:12:45,271 --> 01:12:47,438 because I know I'm paying it forward.