[Shaun] Previously on 90 Day: The Single Life "Tell All"...
[Chantel] I feel amazing coming into this "Tell All" as a single woman.
I've been through the wringer.
I don't give a [bleep] anymore.
Where's Chantel?
I heard she has her own makeup team.
It's like, "Whoa!
We're with the royalty now."
Chantel, "I'm not wearing panties."
It's like, uh-uh, that's not a good way to define yourself.
[Shaun] Wow, Josh asked for another chance?
-He broke up with you... -In text.
...over a text message with a peace sign emoji?
Yeah. Quality, dude.
I did not break up with her through text. That's [bleep].
-You didn't even call me. -[Jamal] Yes, I did.
I texted you again saying, "Can we talk?"
You said you don't wanna talk.
I was waiting for the explanation.
You just hid.
We didn't work.
[intense music playing]
I'm 32 years old.
I look good. I want my man to look good too.
A guy with a six pack abs or hung like a horse,
it's not going to fix the broken part of you.
I was just trying to have a good vacation.
We can't brag about not wearing panties.
[intense music playing]
Oh, Lord.
You were like, "Okay, I'm a piece of meat,
and I'm desirable."
This is how I live my life. And this is me.
You're more than that, Chantel.
Oh, Lord.
Do I get to go?
[Shaun] Well, I want to get someone very close to Chantel
in on this conversation.
And there is nobody closer to Chantel
or more outspoken than her mother.
So we are going to bring her out now.
Please welcome Chantel's mom, Karen.
-Hi, Karen! -[Chantel] Oh, there's my beautiful mother.
Yes, baby.
Give me a hug, Mama.
[Karen] Hi. Hey, girl. Hey.
[laughing]
[Shaun] Karen, once again, it is good to see you.
-[Karen] Hi. -[Shaun] Okay.
Karen, What did you think about Chantel's divorce party in Greece?
I think it was probably a whole lot of fun and necessary.
Most necessary.
Did you have any problem with my outfits or anything?
Everybody has their own preference.
Her way of expressing herself, especially when she's trying to heal
from being married to a...
Anyway, I don't even wanna say that.
You can say [bleep].
[laughs]
So, Ms. Debbie, you've heard Karen's response
-to how Chantel was dressing. -[Debbie] Right. Right.
[Shaun] What would you say to her?
Well, we're both mothers.
We want to protect our daughters from further hurt.
You know, it's like, my daughter is more than a sex object.
My daughter has intelligence.
That's your daughter. We're intelligent women.
[Debbie] No, I'm talking about Chantel.
We're intelligent women,
-but we also love our bodies. -That's just what I said.
That's the way we are.
Even if we might be the kind of people
that might like being nakie. For real.
That's us, seriously.
It sends out a wrong message that your daughter is a sex object.
She's more than a sex object.
We are more.
[Karen] We're more than sex objects, but we are sexy women.
There's nothing wrong with being sexy, but don't broadcast,
"I'm not wearing panties tonight."
She is higher than that,
but think she's damaged from Pedro
and his asinine family.
But that's not why she likes dressing sexy.
Well, no, that's... No...
But I'm saying her friends pushed her
over the limit of sex.
And that is why she needed me there.
-[Debbie] Exactly. -[Karen] Exactly.
-Exactly. -And I will be there next time you go.
[Natalie] Oh, God.
[laughing]
I got it being like she was hurt still from the divorce.
So I think it's just kind of a way to make her feel sexy and wanted.
-You know what I mean? -Yeah.
I even stated that I don't think I'm gonna find my husband in a bar.
Like, I really don't think I'm gonna find my man like out in the club.
I was trying to have fun with my divorce party.
[laughs]
[Shaun] Well, we know you did have a lot of fun
and that you did meet a man named Giannis.
Let's take a look back at the first moments of your relationship.
[Giannis speaking]
Oh!
Are you going to give me a reason to?
Sorry, guys. [chuckles]
[Giannis speaking]
[Giannis] That was good.
Yay! High five.
Okay, but now it's my turn again.
[Giannis whispers]
[Chantel whispers]
Okay.
All right.
If you could come to the United States to visit me there,
that would show a lot.
Okay.
Why not?
Okay, so the big question, Chantel, is are you still in touch with Giannis?
-I am. -[Shaun] You are. Okay.
How often do you two talk?
[Chantel] It's so hard.
I have to call him at 5:00 a.m. before work 'cause of the time difference.
How would you define your relationship?
I'm single, but I really am interested in Giannis.
I like him a lot.
But I am worried
because I've felt like this before
and, um, hmm, it didn't go well,
-so it's like I'm cautious about it. -[Shaun] Uh-huh.
Your list of expectations.
Did Giannis check all of those boxes, Chantel?
-He checked some. -[Shaun] He did? Okay.
Which ones did he check?
Successful?
-Do you consider him successful? -Yeah.
A successful soccer player.
-[Shaun] Adventurous? -Adventurous, right.
You said patient.
We'll see how patient he is. It's just, we need more time.
Yeah, and well endowed?
[snickers]
Well endowed.
I'm not exactly sure, but I felt it a little bit
when we were in the water at the beach.
[all laughing]
But that shouldn't be a prerequisite.
Some people like what they like.
I think he's sexy with his body.
I'm sorry to keep talking about it, but it's impressive.
Like he's got the abs,
he's got the dreamy eyes,
he's got little curly hair.
[Debbie] Well, Pedro had that, too.
We're looking for the intellectual capacity
and the ability to trust, honor, and respect.
Well, but it's the abs and the eyes that are gonna bring her in,
so she gets to know him in his head and heart.
You've experienced that, too, Veronica.
Veronica you've been attracted to "the package."
It's like, but we're... you're still single, too.
-[Debbie] It's like... -[both laugh]
[laughing]
[Debbie] We want to re-evaluate our choices, you know.
-Re-evaluate our choices. -That was like...
[Debbie] That's all I'm saying.
...the slightest shade I've ever seen in my life, man.
We can't look for a man that's hung like a horse.
We've got to look at what's above the belt.
I want what I've never had.
-[Tyray] Oh, my God. -[Debbie] What?
[Debbie] Pedro. I'm sure Pedro was, you know...
Pinky Winky.
I want something that I've never had before,
something I've never seen before.
Hey, it's not fair to talk about a man's penis
when he's not here to defend himself.
[Chantel] Listen.
Okay, that's like penis rule number 101.
[Chantel] I didn't say anybody's names.
I'm not talking about anybody. I'm just talking about what I'm talking about.
[snickers]
Since Chantel and Giannis are still in touch,
let's bring him into the conversation connecting to us
from his home in Greece.
Please welcome Giannis.
Hi, Giannis.
[Shaun] How are you?
Can you see me?
Thank you.
Chantel, why don't you officially introduce your mother to Giannis?
Giannis,
this is my mother, Karen.
Karen. Giannis.
-[Karen] Hi, Giannis. -Hello.
[Shaun] Karen, you've heard so much about Giannis.
You've heard Chantel talk about him.
Are there any questions you would like to ask Giannis?
-Yes. -[Shaun] Go right ahead.
[Karen] How many siblings do you have in your family?
Okay, and how old is your sister?
When you have had girlfriends in the past,
has your sister gotten along with most of them?
Mom, please don't.
Please, please, please, Mom.
If Giannis is a pro foosball player...
[laughs] Foosball, Mommy.
[overlapping conversations]
[Karen] Is it foosball?
Foosball.
Wait a minute now.
[Karen] Is it football?
So if you're a professional ball player,
are you playing most of the time
with very minimal breaks or, yeah?
[Chantel] This is new.
You're grilling my partners, and you're, like,
-really hard on them. -Especially when they give me a reason.
Especially when they give the wrong answers.
Karen, when Chantel called you from Greece,
you told her not to bring home another man who needs a visa.
Well, yes, the reason being, I'm sorry,
but yeah, you need to get your own visa to come here,
50/50 in effort.
[Giannis speaking]
[Shaun] So, Giannis, what is it about Chantel
that makes you want to pursue a long-distance relationship?
[Shaun] Giannis, what did you think about that dress she had on in Greece?
He loved it.
[Chantel] I agree with Giannis.
We're on the same page.
When am I gonna see you again?
Giannis, do you have any plans to come to visit Chantel in the States?
[Shaun] When do you think that might be possible?
Why is it so hard for you to come here?
[Tim] Of course.
We just watched the clip where you said, you were gonna come visit her,
and then she would come visit you. It's your turn.
So wait, do you need a visa to come here from Greece? I don't know.
He should have checked that out already after four months.
You've got this waiting on you,
and you can't figure it out in four months?
And he doesn't even know if he needs a visa?
[Veronica] I don't know why he's wasting her time at this point.
-This guy's not putting his money where his mouth is. -You're waiting on him.
Well, she did say she was single, but...
Chantel, what are you thinking right now?
I'm wondering if I'm worth it to you to come here,
to like research visas and take time out
from your soccer schedule to come here.
Zero effort. Zero effort.
Like really, like, am I worth it?
Okay...
[Debbie] I don't think he's making Chantel a priority.
-[scoffs] -[Tim] Zero.
You know, I don't think we should attack him.
I still consider this connection new.
[scoffs]
Karen, how do you feel about Chantel
finally moving on from her relationship?
I'm really happy that she's having more success in the healing process.
She's come a long way, but she still has a long way to go.
Mmm-hmm.
Well, one thing Chantel might not have mentioned to Giannis,
but was nonetheless on her mind, was her ex-husband, Pedro.
Let's look back at how her past affected her present.
Oh, Lord, I can't watch, so I'm just gonna turn my head this way.
[in Spanish]
[in English] Soccer, you mean?
I said it in Spanish.
Yeah, fútbol americano is like...
She wanna know, can she ride more?
I was turned on by this joyride.
[Mooney] That's it! That's...
It got my adrenaline going and it felt wrong, but it felt good.
Was it fast? Was it slow? 'Cause he said he wanted you to ride some more.
[Chantel] I haven't been on like...
I said, was it fast, was it slow,
'cause he wants you to ride some more.
-Was it fast or was it slow? -No!
No! No.
No! Hell no. We're not going there.
-No, no, no, no. -[Chantel] Oh, my God. No!
-[Chantel speaking] -[Kayleigh and Destinee] Stop. Stop.
No.
When Pedro filed for divorce,
the rug was definitely ripped out from under me,
and the wind knocked out of me.
I'm about to get mismatched.
Don't turn the energy.
Do not do that.
Hey, girl, what is going on right now?
[Destinee] What are you crying about?
-[Mooney] Here, honey. Here. -It's real.
[Chantel crying]
Wow, Chantel, that was kinda hard looking back at that, right?
What were you thinking?
[sighs] I mean, it's just hard
because as much as I am trying to heal
and move on, it still hurts.
But I'm trying to still believe in love,
that there's still like, you know,
something for me, something more.
[intense music playing]
[Chantel] I don't want to talk anymore.
[Shaun] Giannis...
[Shaun] Coming up...
This is embarrassing. How am I ever gonna move on?
[Shaun] I'm wondering, Giannis,
do you feel like Chantel is not ready to be in an exclusive relationship?
[intense music playing]
[Shaun] And later...
That is disgusting.
[Natalie speaking]
[intense music playing]
[music stops]
[Chantel] That's embarrassing.
Like, I just don't want to talk about the past at all ever again.
[Karen] I know, right?
Giannis.
Yes?
[Shaun] Did you realize how much Chantel's ex-husband
and that relationship affected her?
This is embarrassing. How am I ever gonna move on?
I want to date.
It's okay for you to experience these things
and let it out.
And once you let it out...
-But what does it mean? -[Karen] Let it go.
It means you're healing.
That's what it means.
It means you're healing.
It's really because to see myself crying about my...
[laughs] ...failed marriage,
was a trigger for me.
Yeah, I could tell you were triggered by that.
And the more I'm exposed to it is just like making it harder for me to move on.
Right. It does. It's like when you take some steps forward,
and then you have to see that, it pulls you right back again.
I understand. I do. 'Cause you have your whole life ahead of you.
You don't have to keep reliving that like it's Groundhog Day.
I'm wondering, Giannis, do you feel like Chantel
is not ready to be in an exclusive relationship?
She's not ready. Thank you for saying that, Shaun.
Do you want a relationship, Giannis?
So that's where the pushback is coming from, from you meeting with her then.
Tyray getting to the truth.
[Giannis speaking]
Which is understandable, I think.
[Natalie speaking]
[Chantel sighs]
Looks like we're getting Chantel back.
[Karen speaking]
[Chantel] Hi.
[Shaun] How are you doing?
[Tyray] Glad you made it back.
[Chantel] I'm back. I'm back in the game.
[applause]
So I know that was really tough for you, Chantel.
And some of the conversation I was just having with Giannis,
and, Giannis, you admitted some things.
Can you please talk directly to Chantel?
And tell her what you just told me.
[Giannis speaking]
-[sighs] -[Shaun] Okay.
Chantel...
What's your reaction to what Giannis said?
[Chantel] I disagree.
You know, he can have his opinion about how ready I am or not.
But I think that it's a part of healing to explore new relationships,
and you have to fake it till you make it in a sense.
Okay, Chantel, what do you think is next for the two of you?
[Chantel] I'm not sure.
So I don't know. Am I ever going to see you again?
Even if I'm not "healed" by your definition?
[chuckles]
I don't want you to use that as an excuse.
No.
[Giannis speaking]
Okay.
[Shaun] Well, Giannis, it was a pleasure getting to know you.
Maybe the next time we talk, it will be in person.
-Thanks so much. -Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
Taking a quick break. We'll be right back.
-Thank God. -Take a break. [sighs]
[Shaun] Are you okay, girl?
[Chantel] Yeah.
[pensive music playing]
[Tyray] Oh, gosh. My God, my knees are all stiff from sitting all that time.
[chuckles]
[exhales]
-You doing okay? -[Chantel] Yeah.
[Tyray] You did good, honestly.
That's a lot to take in, you know?
I'm just a little...
When I see myself cry, it makes me cry.
Yeah, it's hard because it makes you get re-emotional, you know?
When you see yourself and what you've dealt with, you know?
[Chantel] Yeah, and I cry easy, anyway.
What was the conversation like when I left the stage?
What did Giannis say? Did his energy change when I left?
I was very insecure about that--
Okay, everyone's giving me the eyes to vote me to be the one...
I literally thought he was, like, breaking up with you,
and I was like, "She's not even here."
Like, he was like, "I don't think she's ready."
I was under the impression that he couldn't come
because of his soccer schedule.
He was being a little clearer than he was when you came back about like...
"That's, like, why I haven't come to the States yet."
He said that affected his decision to come here?
-Yeah. -What the hell?
Could be a language barrier. Who knows? I don't know.
Shaun had said, like, you know, "Watching this, how did you feel?"
And he's like, "You know, I knew she probably wasn't over him yet,
-but seeing this"-- -I'm over him.
-Yeah. -[Chantel] I'm over him. That's not the point.
If anything, I'm angry at him.
I'm mourning myself and my dreams and expectations.
Don't be angry at him either.
Don't even give... Don't give him that energy.
[scoffs]
[Veronica] Yeah, he's not even worth being angry over, but...
[Karen] I'm really hoping that you don't find yourself
in another a situation where a person is not being honest with you
because Pedro, everything he ever said was a lie.
[Chantel] You know, I can't bear to sit here any longer
and rehash the past or hear about it or be exposed to it.
Sorry about that.
[Shaun] Coming up...
To this day, I don't think she's ever seen the inside of where he lives.
And, Natalie, have you? Have you ever been to Josh's place in LA?
Still? Joshua! Joshua!
I wouldn't sleep with him if I were you, Natalie.
Let's switch gears to Natalie.
After Natalie's marriage to Mike dissolved,
she relocated to Florida and started a long-distance relationship with Josh.
He encouraged her to move to LA,
but even when living in the same city,
she still felt distance from Josh.
Let's dive right into that.
And, Natalie, first of all, how are you still enjoying life in Los Angeles?
Very expensive, yes.
[Natalie speaking]
Is the city all that you dreamed it would be?
-The film industry? Yes. -[Natalie speaking]
[Shaun] All right, well, Natalie has a history of intense breakups.
And her breakup with Josh certainly fit the bill, too. Let's take a look back.
[Natalie speaking]
I'm sorry that you feel this way.
I tried to. As much as you were...
As much as you were trying--
I did try.
Bye.
[Natalie crying]
Well, that looked like it was the end of their relationship, but was it really?
Let's bring out Josh to find out where things stand
after such a devastating moment.
Please welcome Josh.
-Hi, Josh. -Hey, what's up? What's up?
[Josh] Hey. You look beautiful.
So, uh, you just kissed Natalie.
She did not move. How did it feel?
Um... [sighs]
Well, I mean, I don't know what's going on yet, so...
I don't know why she's not moving,
but we're still very close, we're friends, so, you know.
[Shaun] You're friends who kiss when they greet?
[Shaun] It's, uh... Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, we kiss. We...
I mean, she slept over last night. I don't know.
Did you just say that she slept over last night?
-Yeah. -[Shaun] Okay.
For being intimate, you're pretty stone-cold over there.
Acting like nothing's been going on over there.
I'm sorry, wasn't this the exact same like...
-last year? -Last year. It's totally déjà vu.
[Shaun] Since I think we're all getting some déjà vu,
let's bring out some special guests
who were part of this conversation last time.
One of them has always had an appreciation for Ukrainian women.
The other, well, Josh, I think you'll recognize our other guest.
Please welcome Caesar and Debbie.
-[all cheering] -Your favorite. [laughing]
-[Shaun] Hi. -[Debbie J] Hey, guys.
Hey.
Hi, Caesar. Good to see you again.
Oh, hey. What's going on? Hi, everybody.
Debbie, would you like to say hello to Josh?
[laughs] Hi, Josh. How are you?
[sighs] Hi, Debbie.
So, Natalie, I asked the last time you and Caesar
were on the "Tell All" together
there, you guys really were going at each other.
-It's not even like that. -[Natalie speaking]
I think you're thinking of something different.
Yeah, you're thinking of something totally different.
Do you think there is still any animosity there?
How do you feel seeing him?
[Caesar] I just think that you kind of took it the wrong way.
But, you know, I still like you as a friend.
Yeah.
Josh and Mama Debbie, at the last "Tell All," you were on the set together.
You guys really went at each other.
I don't know. I think she just needs to figure out
what she wants to do with her life.
Oh, my God, give me a break.
You're still not gonna break up with her, right?
I need, like... Is there, like, a mute button for this lady?
[Shaun] Debbie, what was your issue with Josh?
Oh, that he's a liar, and he's using Natalie, and a few other things.
He can't keep his story straight
and he got a girlfriend while he's dating Natalie. That's just the start.
Right.
Do you still feel that way?
[Debbie J] Oh, absolutely.
If it's over between them, that's probably the best thing for her ever.
So are you still broken up?
Like, how would you describe the relationship?
Well, we did break up and we didn't talk for quite some time,
and Natalie needed some help, something had happened.
She reached out to me and we, like, reconnected.
What was that incident?
Natalie had gotten in an accident. Somebody had hit her.
-[Shaun] In the car that you bought for her? -Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie, were you hurt?
So, Natalie, the accident is how you and Josh reconnected?
How would you describe your relationship now?
[Natalie speaking]
Do you consider Natalie your girlfriend, Josh?
No, not right now.
[John] Yeah.
And you just slept with her last night.
-I mean, is there some problem going on? -Right.
[Natalie speaking]
I wouldn't sleep with him if I were you, Natalie.
But, Debbie, she slept with him, too. It's both sides.
You just can't put it all on him.
Yes, she slept with him last night,
but he has no intention of a relationship with her.
To this day, I don't think she's ever seen the inside of where he lives.
Natalie, have you? Have you ever been to Josh's place in LA?
Still? Joshua! Joshua!
We're not even together right now.
She lives in LA now.
What are you trying to figure out after all this time?
Natalie, during your breakup, you said,
"I know you don't love me."
To which Josh responded, "I like you a lot."
Has he ever told you that he loves you? To this day?
[Tim laughs] Bro...
[Shaun] Tim, why are you laughing?
I mean, John knows, he's just better at not laughing.
-It's just... Like, I mean, come on, bro. -Three years.
[laughs] Yeah. Like...
-Has she met your daughter? -No.
-[John] Okay, wow. -[Veronica] She's never been to his place.
Let's just cut this down pretty simple, all right? This is pretty simple, right?
He has feelings for you, but he's not gonna marry you.
[Shaun] Wow.
[tense music playing]
[Shaun] Coming up...
I am not here to break you down, I'm not here to cut you down--
[Josh] That's not what I'm trying to do.
-You wanna hear all the issues? -[Natalie speaking]
I'm not gonna just air out your dirty laundry.
[Natalie speaking]
-Has she met your daughter? -No.
[John] Okay, wow.
Let's just cut this down pretty simple, all right? This is pretty simple, right?
He has feelings for you, but he's not gonna marry you.
[Shaun] Wow.
[John] I mean...
Well, I mean, you would have introduced them to your daughter...
Her to your daughter by now if you really had that intention.
Well, that's A, I agree with you.
B is that he is really hoping he wakes up,
and the things he don't like has changed.
Yeah, but that's not gonna happen.
[Tim] And then he would wife her up,
but until then, it's not gonna happen.
It's been getting a lot... Like, she's been a lot more understanding.
But not good enough to take home or...
The thing is, like, when we have these meltdowns,
like, I don't ever want that to be in my home.
You know, I haven't been ready to just really commit
to having her meet my daughter yet.
I just... I just can't.
[Natalie speaking]
No, I never said that.
I think that we're working on a relationship.
You wanna hear all of our problems?
-That's gonna be a whole show. -What meltdowns are you talking about?
Look, I am not here to break you down, I'm not here to cut you down--
[Josh] That's not what I'm trying to do.
-You wanna hear all the issues? -[Natalie speaking]
I'm not gonna just air out your dirty laundry.
Jealousy is a very big one. Jealousy is a very big one.
For instance, I took her to a really nice place, a nice hotel,
and we were waiting to go up the elevator,
and these two beautiful girls were next to us, and they looked at me.
And, I mean, that was it, you know?
We went up to the room. "Why would you take me to the [bleep] hotel?
There's prostitutes here."
I'm like, "Dude, this is one of the most trendiest places in LA."
[Natalie speaking]
All right. There were people in Josh's life
who had reservations about his relationship with Natalie.
Josh's coworkers voiced concerns
about how their relationship affected the business.
Let's watch this never-before-seen clip.
[Payton] This thing with Natalie, what is going on?
I got all of the statements from the accounting team.
There's multiple transfers to her. Directly.
Hopefully... Hopefully, we're done with that--
Hopefully. Because it's it's starting to affect everything.
When we first met Natalie, it was at one of our castings in Florida,
and I know that Natalie is demanding, she's needy, she's rude a lot of times,
and she's taking way too much time away from Josh right now.
We were literally at an audition two weeks ago,
and your phone is going off ten times
because she needed you to find her a ride somewhere.
-[Ty] Right. -It's like... Come on.
Honestly, I just like... I care for her.
And I'm helping her try to achieve her goals right now.
[Payton] That sounds more like a charity project than a relationship.
-[Ty] Right. -Right.
It's clear. You care about her way too much
and this gets you in trouble every single time.
You know, maybe for once
you should be open to dating someone who's not a project.
Someone that's already finished. That would be great.
That is disgusting.
[Natalie speaking]
I've helped you--
[tense music playing]
[Shaun] Coming up...
Josh is giving her money,
but sleeping with her, but won't commit to her.
-Oh, my God. -Okay. Wait, wait.
Wait! Wait!
Okay. Natalie! Natalie! Natalie.
Well, you came to LA because you wanted to pursue acting.
What do you mean? Make your life clear?
Did you invite her to move to LA?
-No, I did not. -[Natalie speaking]
No, no.
But he said he didn't invite you.
No.
-He said you wanted to move to LA. -[Natalie speaking]
Natalie, no. You wanted to come to LA, you wanted to pursue acting.
We had been dating, right?
And I even had my reservations before you came out there.
I said, "Don't come here just for me. Please don't."
[Shaun] Okay.
Two people who have always had their reservations about this relationship
are Josh's business partners.
Please welcome Ty and Payton. Come on out.
-[Josh] All right. -Hey, guys.
-What are you guys talking about? -Hello. How are you?
[Shaun] Hi, Ty. Hi, Payton.
Okay, Payton, you said that Natalie was demanding,
needy, and rude.
Do you stand by those words?
-Needy and demanding. -[Shaun] Needy and demanding.
Rude, I've changed my mind on.
If you know that she doesn't know anybody here
and needs a friend, why are you talking about her that way?
So, I am, like, a business guy.
Everything needs to be clear for me or I'm not interested.
And so when someone's asking me what I think about her,
I'm going to be straightforward about it.
But if you want me to be friendly
and sugarcoat things a little bit, I can.
I like Natalie a lot. We've been able to hang out a lot.
And I really think that the overlying problem
is that she is so passionate about so many things
and she gets so passionate that it gets in her way.
-[Debbie J] You describe Natalie as being passionate. -[Payton] Yeah.
-But you called her needy. -Yes.
Well, you don't want our words for you. Trust me.
[Debbie J] You're saying two different things.
Well, like I just said,
first off, my the reason that there's a little bit of discrepancy...
-A lot of discrepancy. Lot. -[Payton] ...which I'm sure you're aware of
because it looks like you've been around a while,
is that you've met people and then you've hung out with them longer
and then you've changed your perspective on them because you've known...
Got to know them more.
So back there, how long did you know her before right now?
She was needy and helpless, basically,
and now you're calling her passionate.
-You gotta listen. So, what I said-- -She doesn't.
Just leave her alone. -[Payton] I know.
I'm learning really quickly.
You know, we're in the business of judging people for a living,
and so it doesn't take me very long.
Yeah, it doesn't matter. I judge people too.
I don't do it for a living, but I just have a knack.
It's like a dog whistle when she talks, it's like... [imitates buzzing]
[Debbie J] Josh, you are the most disgusting human being ever.
-Jesus Christ. -[Shaun] Okay. Okay, wait a minute.
So how did you feel when Natalie ended things with Josh?
From a business perspective, it was good.
And the only reason is because he was more available.
We'd sit in meetings where, you know, we're discussing the future of a new company,
and you could see he was frazzled, he's razzled.
Something else is going on there.
You know he's got his phone up on the table
or he's walking outside real quick to take a call and come back in.
Come to find out it's something that has to do with Natalie.
A lot of people want to know, Josh,
if you don't consider Natalie your girlfriend,
why are you paying for all of these things?
Well, I mean, I care for Natalie a lot.
I think we care for each other.
And, you know, she's fun to be around.
[Chantel] It seems like she wants a real, genuine relationship with you,
but you're giving sugar daddy vibes.
Yeah. Listen, I know,
and I've been trying to stay away from the sugar daddy vibes.
I've actually told her, like,
"Look, I'm not your sugar daddy, like, I'm helping you out."
Well, I'd like to chime in, too, because you guys don't know Josh.
You guys don't know how caring Josh is.
Well, he said he was intimate with her last night
and can't define their relationship today.
-Can I finish my statement? -[Shaun] Go ahead, Ty.
What I'm trying to say is Josh comes from a caring side, okay?
She just begged him to just define the relationship.
Josh is known to do this. He's charitable, he gives, he helps.
He cares for Natalie, and the stuff that he's been doing,
the money that he has been spending
all of a sudden puts him in a sugar daddy category with you guys.
Is he a sugar daddy to you, Natalie?
There's exactly what it means. He gives you money and you have sex,
and you have nothing else.
You don't have the house, You don't get to go to the house,
you don't get to meet the kids.
You just give the sex and get the dollars.
[cackling]
[Tim] Let me reword it.
And if Josh is giving her money,
but sleeping with her, but won't commit to her--
-Oh, my God. -Okay, wait. Wait!
Okay. Natalie! Natalie! Natalie.
-It's not what he means. -[Natalie speaking]
[Josh] Yes, you do.
Nobody's saying that you didn't.
Natalie. Natalie.
[Shaun] Next time on The Single Life "Tell All"...
Um, let's see...
You have to keep a loose back and activate all of this.
-Yeah. -[Chantel] All of this.
And then just...
I wasn't endowed with a backside.
Tyray, you mentioned that there was a woman you were talking to
in New Orleans.
-What's her name? -I don't know. [laughs]
Dang...
[Tyray] I was drunk when she told me,
and she doesn't have it on social media.
Well, Tyray, we know her name.
-It's Shannon. -Oh.
-[Shaun] And Shannon is here with us today. -Oh, my God.
No...
Right. We're not even on the family topic.
Like, we're not even a couple right now.
So, what are we talking about?
Patrick, tell us. Spill the tea. Come on, now.
-I've heard there's timelines. -What have you heard?
Yeah. There was timelines on him moving to San Antonio.
There were timelines on, like, when he's gonna get engaged.
I've heard all about the timelines.
So what's the timeline for the engagement? Five years?
Oh, no, honey, that's too long. No.
So you need an engagement, or else...
Yeah, I'm not a timeline guy.
But she's a timeline girl.
[Natalie speaking]
Hey--
Okay...